Latest / Reformed Thinking / Ancient Mediterranean Sacrifice | Jennifer Wright Knust and Zsuzsanna Varhelyi
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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed thinking. I I want to start our time today
- 0:04by asking you to do something for me.
- 0:06Just close your eyes for a second and I want you to picture
- 0:09an ancient religious sacrifice. Just whatever comes to mind
- 0:13first. I'm guessing for most people
- 0:15living in the modern world, the mind just immediately goes to a
- 0:18very specific, you know, highly cinematic scene.
- 0:21Oh 100%. You picture this massive stone
- 0:24altar, right? Maybe it is bathed in the eerie
- 0:27light of a full moon. Yeah, and you have got a group
- 0:30of a priest. Right, draped in dark robes,
- 0:32chanting in some forgotten language, and you picture a
- 0:35terrified animal on the altar. And hanging over that entire
- 0:38scene is this like thick, suffocating atmosphere of guilt
- 0:42and dread and this desperate plea for cosmic atonement.
- 0:46It feels heavy. I mean, it feels violent.
- 0:48It feels like a Hollywood blockbuster.
- 0:49Yeah, honestly, the cultural imagination we have inherited is
- 0:52just completely saturated with that specific dramatic framing.
- 0:56We assume the ancient person approached the altar trembling,
- 0:59you know, burdened by their sin, hoping the blood of the animal
- 1:02would somehow balance a cosmic moral scale.
- 1:04But what if I told you that for the vast majority of the ancient
- 1:08population, none of that was happening?
- 1:10None of it. Right.
- 1:11For the average farmer or the local tradesman, there was
- 1:13number trembling, there was number chanting, and there was
- 1:16certainly no agonizing over systemic moral guilt.
- 1:20It was, for all practical purposes, a neighborhood BBQ.
- 1:24A BBQ. I mean, think about that.
- 1:25You had a problem. You slaughtered a goat, you
- 1:27cooked the meat, you shared it with your family, and you just
- 1:31left a portion for the local unseen spirits to keep them
- 1:34happy. That is the reality we are going
- 1:36to uncover today. Because you are listening to a
- 1:38show designed for people who want to cut through the noise,
- 1:41right? We want to grasp the historical
- 1:43truth without getting bogged down by academic jargon.
- 1:47You are the learner and we want to give you the ground level
- 1:50reality of how ancient people actually lived, thought and
- 1:54worshipped. And to get to that ground level
- 1:56reality, we have to recognize a massive historical illusion.
- 2:01I mean, almost everything modern people assume about ancient
- 2:04religious practice comes from a microscopic fraction of ancient
- 2:07writers. Like how small of a fraction?
- 2:09We are talking about less than 2% of the population.
- 2:12Wow, 2%. Yeah, less than 2%.
- 2:15These were the highly educated literate elites, the
- 2:18philosophers, the specialized priests, the state sponsored
- 2:22poets. OK, let's unpack this because
- 2:24our mission for this deep dive is ambitious.
- 2:26We are going to completely dismantle modern assumptions
- 2:30about ancient religion. We really are, and we have a
- 2:33great resource for. It Yes, we are pulling all of
- 2:36our insights today from a single striking source.
- 2:40It is this brilliant paper by Stanley Stowers.
- 2:43It is titled The Religion of Plant and Animal Offerings
- 2:46versus the Religion of Meanings, Essences, and Textual Mysteries.
- 2:50Quite the title. Right.
- 2:51It is published in the book Ancient Mediterranean Sacrifice.
- 2:54And Stowers provides a paradigm shift that forces us to
- 2:58reevaluate our entire historical framework.
- 3:01We have based our view of the ancient Mediterranean world on
- 3:04the critiques written by the ancient equivalent of cultural
- 3:07snobs. Cultural snobs.
- 3:08I love that. Well, it is true these elites
- 3:11hated mainstream society, but because the literate elite wrote
- 3:16the books, their disdain for the common BBQ became the official
- 3:21historical record. So to understand what was
- 3:23actually happening, we must stop thinking of religion as one
- 3:27monolithic category. Right.
- 3:28We cannot assume it is a single umbrella covering both the
- 3:31philosopher in Athens and the illiterate farmer out in the
- 3:34countryside. They are doing totally different
- 3:36things. Stour suggests we look at
- 3:38different modes of human activity instead, which brings
- 3:41us to the first major hurdle. This is Stour's primary critique
- 3:45of modern scholarship. He argues that historians and
- 3:48theologians have spent centuries hunting for the one true meaning
- 3:52of animal sacrifice. And it is a wild goose chase.
- 3:54Yeah, they look at all these different cultures, the Greeks,
- 3:57the Romans, the various Mediterranean tribes, and they
- 3:59try to find a single universal symbolic essence that applies to
- 4:03every single sacrificial act across time.
- 4:06Which is just a product of modern post enlightenment
- 4:09thinking. We expect everything to have a
- 4:11neat systematic definition. But Stowers argues we should
- 4:14separate the broad human cognitive, practical phenomenon
- 4:18of religion from the concept of a religion.
- 4:21So let's break that distinction down, the difference between
- 4:24religion as a general human activity and a religion as a
- 4:28specific noun. So religion with a lowercase R
- 4:31is a broad human activity involves the everyday practices,
- 4:35habits and assumptions people make about non obvious beings.
- 4:38The unseen Realm. Right.
- 4:40It is fluid, unbounded and highly localized.
- 4:43It does not have a strict boundary line.
- 4:45A religion, on the other hand, is a social formation.
- 4:48So it is claimed and defined by an elite group.
- 4:51Precisely. Usually through political
- 4:53structures and written texts, they draw a circle and say, you
- 4:55know, this is what we believe, this is our systematic theology,
- 4:58and this is who belongs inside the circle.
- 4:59And modern scholars look at the unbounded, messy, everyday
- 5:03practices of ancient people and try to force them into that
- 5:07bounded circle to find a tidy, universal meaning.
- 5:09Which just does not work. It is like thinking all
- 5:12religious acts across the ancient world have one core
- 5:15meaning is like trying to find the one single essence of
- 5:19sports. That is a great analogy.
- 5:21Right. I mean, you have a guy throwing
- 5:23darts in a pub in London, you have a gymnast competing at the
- 5:26Olympics in Tokyo, and you have a kid kicking a rock down an
- 5:30alley in Chicago. If a historian tried to write a
- 5:33unified theory on the theology of moving physical objects to
- 5:37explain all three of those activities, they would be
- 5:39laughed out of the room. Nobody would take that
- 5:42seriously. Because the contexts are
- 5:43completely different. But wait, let me push on this.
- 5:46If there is no universal theological meaning to ancient
- 5:49sacrifice, what actually held these ancient practices
- 5:52together? This raises an important
- 5:54question. If it was not theology, what was
- 5:57the glue? Yeah, if the farmer in Greece
- 5:59and the tradesmen in Rome did not share a systematic theology,
- 6:03why are they doing such similar things?
- 6:05The answer is shared, inherited physical practices.
- 6:09The unity was not found in a shared belief system or a creed.
- 6:12It was found in the physical act of doing.
- 6:14So they shared a set of common practices inherited from their
- 6:18ancestors about how to interact with the world and the beings in
- 6:21it. The physical action was the
- 6:23primary reality. The explanation for the action
- 6:26was secondary, if it even existed at all.
- 6:28So if theology was not the glue, if it was not about believing
- 6:32the right intellectual concepts, we need to look at what average
- 6:36people were actually doing on a Tuesday in ancient Greece.
- 6:40We need to look at the default setting of human behavior in
- 6:42that era. And Stowers calls this first
- 6:45mode the religion of everyday social exchange.
- 6:48This is the baseline. In this mode, the gods are not
- 6:52viewed as distant cosmic principles.
- 6:54They are not viewed as abstract moral exemplars holding the
- 6:57universe together. What are they then?
- 6:59They're viewed as interested parties.
- 7:01There are local residents who intervene in highly specific,
- 7:04mundane ways in the daily lives of humans.
- 7:07The source material highlights a fascinating distinction that
- 7:09illustrates this perfectly. Stars brings up the difference
- 7:12between Zeus of Olympus and a much lesser known flex is called
- 7:15Zeus of the Possessions. The contrast between the two is
- 7:18just it reveals the entire mindset of the ancient farmer.
- 7:22So Zeus of Olympus is the one we all know from the mythology
- 7:25books. He is the guy up in the clouds.
- 7:27He brings the rain, he throws the lightning bolts.
- 7:30He manages the macro weather systems.
- 7:31Right, the big boss. But Zeus of the possessions is
- 7:34completely different. The source notes he was
- 7:37represented by a simple jar. A jar, not a grand statue.
- 7:42Just a jar. It was kept in a storeroom and
- 7:44his primary job was keeping mice away from the grain supply.
- 7:48And the crucial point Stowers makes is that an ancient Greek
- 7:51farmer did not sit around debating whether these two
- 7:54versions of Zeus were manifestations of the same
- 7:57singular deity. They did not hold theological
- 8:00councils to hammer at the exact nature of the Zeus head.
- 8:03No, they did not ask how the God of the cosmos could also fit
- 8:08inside a clay jar in a pantry. They did not care about the
- 8:11theological paradox. They had no reason to care, they
- 8:13just knew which entity to interact with to achieve a
- 8:16specific goal. So.
- 8:17If you need rain for your crops, you appeal to the cosmic Zeus.
- 8:21Right. And if you have a rodent problem
- 8:22in your pantry, you go to the jar in the storeroom and
- 8:25interact with Zeus of the possessions.
- 8:28Gods were treated like persons. They had minds, they had
- 8:31specific desires, and crucially, they had spatial limitations.
- 8:35Spatial limitations. That is a huge concept to grasp.
- 8:39It is entirely counterintuitive to how we think about the divine
- 8:42today. When we read the scriptures, we
- 8:45understand the Lord as omnipresent, filling All in all,
- 8:48not bound by time or space. You were saying these Pagan gods
- 8:52were thought of as literally being in one physical place at
- 8:55one specific time and nowhere else.
- 8:57That is correct. They were localized.
- 8:59They were inhabitants of the environment just as much as an
- 9:02olive tree, a river or a flock of sheep.
- 9:04So they basically just part of the landscape.
- 9:06Yeah, when Greeks laid out new cities, they first had to figure
- 9:09out which deities already belong to that specific plot of land.
- 9:13They were negotiating with the local unseen residents.
- 9:16Because the gods were not everywhere.
- 9:17They were somewhere. That localized view creates a
- 9:21very specific psychological state for ancient people.
- 9:25If the gods are limited to a certain space and they have
- 9:28varying moods and desires, the human being is left in a state
- 9:32of perpetual guessing. And Stowers explains this
- 9:35psychological state, this epistemology of uncertainty,
- 9:39using a brilliant analogy. He says being an ancient person
- 9:42was like being in a many windowed house with the curtains
- 9:45up after dark. It is a haunting image.
- 9:48It is but highly effective for understanding their daily
- 9:51reality. Imagine it.
- 9:53You are sitting inside the house in the light.
- 9:55You know there are entities out there in the dark.
- 9:58You know they are watching you from the outside, but you do not
- 10:01know who is looking through which window at any given
- 10:04moment. You do not know what their
- 10:05current mood is. Right.
- 10:07You do not know what they want from you.
- 10:08You just know you are being observed by forces more powerful
- 10:11than yourself. If we connect this to the bigger
- 10:13picture, that constant state of uncertainty explains the massive
- 10:18industry of divination in the ancient world.
- 10:20Divination. Let's talk about that.
- 10:22That feeling of being watched by powerful but unpredictable
- 10:26neighbors makes divination A practical necessity.
- 10:30It was not a fringe mystical hobby for eccentric people.
- 10:34It was a basic survival skill. I need to clarify something here
- 10:38because my modern brain hears the word divination and I
- 10:41immediately think of a fortune teller with a crystal ball.
- 10:44Like trying to predict the future.
- 10:45Yeah, trying to see 10 years down the road, but that is not
- 10:48what you were saying they were doing.
- 10:49You have hit the nail on the head.
- 10:51That is a common misunderstanding.
- 10:53They were not trying to predict distant future events, they were
- 10:56trying to read the current mood of the entities outside the
- 10:59window. They needed immediate, practical
- 11:02information, right? Is the spirit near my field
- 11:05happy today? Will this specific entity curse
- 11:08my harvest if I plant the wheat tomorrow?
- 11:11Because if they have spatial limits and changing moods, you
- 11:14are desperate for clues. The source brings in quotes from
- 11:16Xenophon and Pindar to illustrate this desperate
- 11:19search. Pindar is fascinating on.
- 11:21This yeah, Tindar writes. Never yet has anyone who walks
- 11:25upon the earth found a reliable symbol from the gods concerning
- 11:28a future matter. And then Xenophon, the Greek
- 11:31historian and military commander, talks about the gods
- 11:34giving 4 warnings and sacrifices, omens, voices and
- 11:37dreams. And Xenophon was a pragmatic
- 11:39military man. He was not a Mystic, yet he
- 11:41relied on these signs. They were reading the tea leaves
- 11:44of reality just to figure out the local mood.
- 11:47They were looking for traces, yes or no answers.
- 11:50Xenophon would literally refuse to March his army if the
- 11:53entrails of a sacrificed sheep did not look right.
- 11:56Wow, an entire army halted because of a sheep.
- 11:59To his mind, the entity governing that specific valley
- 12:02was currently hostile, and marching into it would be
- 12:05tactical suicide. The signs were the only way to
- 12:09mitigate the terrifying uncertainty of the many windowed
- 12:12house. So if you are sitting in this
- 12:14brightly lit house hoping the entities in the dark are
- 12:17friendly, how do you actually build a relationship with them?
- 12:20That is the $1,000,000 question. If you cannot speak to them
- 12:22directly and you only have these vague signs, how do you keep
- 12:25things smooth so your crops grow and your family stays healthy?
- 12:29The primary way to interact with these gods was through practices
- 12:32of generalized reciprocity, especially giving gifts of food.
- 12:36Food. Yes.
- 12:37This is the core mechanism of the religion of everyday social
- 12:40exchange. Generalized reciprocity.
- 12:42Let's differentiate that from how we conduct transactions
- 12:45today, because that distinction is heavily featured in the text.
- 12:48Well, we operate almost exclusively on market exchange.
- 12:51Today. Market exchange relies on exact
- 12:54price equivalents. Right.
- 12:55You give me a cup of coffee, I give you $5.
- 12:58The Ledger is balanced immediately.
- 13:00You do not owe me anything and I do not owe you anything.
- 13:03The relationship ends the moment the transaction concludes.
- 13:07We can walk away from each other completely clean.
- 13:09I do not owe the barista Christmas gift.
- 13:11We are entirely even. Generalized reciprocity is the
- 13:14exact opposite framework. Reciprocity relies on giving
- 13:18gifts that never quite balance out.
- 13:21The goal is not to clear the Ledger.
- 13:22It is to keep the Ledger perpetually slightly unbalanced.
- 13:26Yes, that lingering imbalance is what ensures an ongoing,
- 13:30permanent relationship. It is like taking turns paying
- 13:33for lunch with a friend. I buy lunch this week.
- 13:35You say you'll get it next time you buy it next week and say I
- 13:38can grab the next one. You never sit down with a
- 13:41calculator and figure out who owes who $3.50.
- 13:44Because if we did calculate it to the penny, if the Ledger hit
- 13:48absolute 0, the social excuse to meet up disappears.
- 13:53The mild ongoing debt is the social glue.
- 13:56That is a perfect way to look at it.
- 13:58But here is my struggle with the text.
- 14:00How does killing an animal fit into this friendly lunch
- 14:02dynamic? Because to a modern mind,
- 14:05slaughtering a goat seems like a massive dramatic leap from
- 14:08picking up the check at a diner. The text points out a very blunt
- 14:12reality of ancient life that modern people who buy their meat
- 14:15wrapped in plastic at the grocery store often overlook,
- 14:18which is you cannot eat a live uncooked animal.
- 14:22It sounds almost too obvious when you say it out loud, but it
- 14:24changes the entire visual. Animal sacrifice for the average
- 14:28ancient person was simply a festive meal prepared for
- 14:31special, non obvious guests. Let's look at the logic.
- 14:34If the gods had demanded a dead animal in a vacuum, if they just
- 14:38wanted violence, that would not be reciprocity.
- 14:41That would just be destruction. Right.
- 14:43But the gods provide the fruit of the land.
- 14:45They provide the rain, the grain, the reproductive health
- 14:49of the livestock. So the humans take those gifts,
- 14:52prepare them as a meal, meal, and share that meal with the
- 14:54gods. It was a dinner party.
- 14:56The death of the animal was simply the necessary logistical
- 14:59step to get meat on the table for the feast.
- 15:02That strips away the Hollywood drama completely.
- 15:05It was a BBQ with the local spirits.
- 15:07You cook the meat, the smoke goes up to the entity and you
- 15:09and your family eat the rest. It is a shared meal.
- 15:12But the text also adds new ones. Here, not all entities outside
- 15:16the window were friendly. It was not all just passing the
- 15:19brisket to a benevolent neighbor.
- 15:21While The Olympian gods or the friendly local agricultural
- 15:24deities might be treated with festive meals, there were other
- 15:27entities that required a different approach.
- 15:29We are talking about local spirits, the restless dead
- 15:33entities known as damones. These were viewed as volatile,
- 15:37easily offended, and potentially dangerous.
- 15:40If you have a difficult, hostile neighbor, you do not invite them
- 15:43inside for a relaxed dinner party.
- 15:46You leave a peace offering on their porch, so they leave your
- 15:48property alone. This is where we see the concept
- 15:51of appeasement and normal people were engaging in all sorts of
- 15:55hidden ad hoc practices to deal with these darker entities.
- 15:59The text mentions the existence of over 300 cursed tablets found
- 16:04in the region of Attica alone. These tablets are fascinating.
- 16:08They give us a direct look into the minds of the common people.
- 16:11They do. A cursed tablet was typically a
- 16:14thin sheet of lead. Lead, not parchment.
- 16:17Right lead. A person would write a specific
- 16:19request or binding spell on it, fold it up and drive a nail
- 16:22through it. Then they would deposit it in a
- 16:24place associated with the underworld, like a grave or a
- 16:27deep well. And what is wild is that the
- 16:29people writing these cursed tablets are the exact same
- 16:32regular people who are participating in the sunny
- 16:34public festival during the day. Oh, absolutely.
- 16:37They are sharing the festive meal with the city gods at noon
- 16:40and then sneaking around at night, writing curses to
- 16:42leverage the darker underground entities against their
- 16:45neighbors. The text notes that many of
- 16:47these tablets were used for mundane rivalries.
- 16:49Someone would write Buying the tongue of my opponent in court
- 16:52tomorrow. Or make my rival's business
- 16:55fail. It was a highly pragmatic,
- 16:58almost mechanical approach to dealing with the unseen world.
- 17:01It highlights that everyday religion was a toolbox.
- 17:05You use the tool that fit the specific situation, a festive
- 17:08meal for the friendly gods and appeasement offering for the
- 17:11dangerous ones, and a cursed tablet if you needed to gain an
- 17:14edge in a local dispute. There was no overarching moral
- 17:18framework dictating that one was holy and the other was sinful.
- 17:21It was purely about managing relationships with the unseen
- 17:24powers. This system of food exchange,
- 17:27appeasement and practical management seemed to work
- 17:29perfectly well for the vast majority of people.
- 17:31The farmers felt secure. The local spirits were
- 17:34ostensibly fed and the social Ledger was maintained.
- 17:38So the massive historical question is this Why did our
- 17:41understanding of sacrifice shift?
- 17:43How did we get from a simple shared meal to a highly
- 17:46intellectual symbolic ritual? Where did the cinematic guilt
- 17:49ridden version come from? That brings us to Stour's second
- 17:53mode of ancient religion. This is the realm of the
- 17:57literate cultural producer. This is where the historical
- 17:59disruption happens. The literate specialist, the
- 18:02text notes this group made-up less than 2% of the entire
- 18:06population. Less than 2%.
- 18:08Yet they're the ones who possessed the incredibly rare
- 18:11skill of high literacy, and because they could read and
- 18:14write, they controlled the permanent historical record.
- 18:17These specialists enacted a total shift in focus.
- 18:20They moved the attention away from doing physical actions to
- 18:23finding the hidden meaning behind those actions.
- 18:26Their entire social standing, their livelihood, their
- 18:28political prestige relied on their unique ability to
- 18:32interpret complex written texts. I want to pause here because a
- 18:36modern listener might naturally assume that the literate
- 18:38specialist simply knew better. Were these specialists just
- 18:41inherently smarter than the illiterate farmers?
- 18:44Is this just a case of an educated class correcting the
- 18:46foolish superstitions of the uneducated masses?
- 18:49Stowers clarifies this point aggressively.
- 18:52This is not about raw intelligence at all.
- 18:55An illiterate farmer in the ancient world possessed massive
- 18:59amounts of practical interpretive skill.
- 19:01They could read subtle changes in the weather.
- 19:03They understood the complex signs of the seasons.
- 19:06They knew the intricacies of agriculture, soil management and
- 19:09animal husbandry. Doing all of that without modern
- 19:12technology requires incredible cognitive ability and problem
- 19:16solving skills. They were surviving in a brutal
- 19:18environment. You cannot be stupid and keep a
- 19:21farm running through a drought in ancient Greece.
- 19:23The distinction between the farmer and the specialist is
- 19:26purely about the medium of communication.
- 19:28The specialist relied on text networks.
- 19:31Texts are completely different kind of technology.
- 19:34Exact. Well I should say spot on.
- 19:35Texts are mobile, they cross geographic borders.
- 19:38They are entirely detached from local soil.
- 19:41A farmer's knowledge is tied intimately to his specific plot
- 19:44of land. He knows how the water flows on
- 19:46his hill. A literate specialist's text,
- 19:49however, can travel to Rome, to Egypt, to Syria, carrying
- 19:53abstract ideas that have nothing to do with the physical dirt.
- 19:56So the medium itself changes the message.
- 19:59Because the text can travel anywhere, the ideas inside it
- 20:02have to become universal rather than local.
- 20:05The specialist is playing a totally different game.
- 20:08The text breaks down the field of these literate specialists
- 20:10into two distinct poles. On one side you have the
- 20:13traditionalists. These are your famous poets,
- 20:16your dramatists, guys like Homer or Aeschylus.
- 20:19They relied heavily on public patronage.
- 20:22They needed the city, state or wealthy aristocrats to fund
- 20:25their plays and their poetry. Because of that funding, they
- 20:29had to keep the crowds and the politicians happy, so they
- 20:32generally supported the traditional civic structures.
- 20:35The traditionalists might write epic plays where the gods act
- 20:38out grand human dramas on Mount Olympus.
- 20:40And we should note that theatrical version of the gods
- 20:43was not how normal people viewed the local spirits in everyday
- 20:46life. But the traditionalists were
- 20:48still broadly supportive of the established order.
- 20:51They were not trying to tear down the system of reciprocal
- 20:54sacrifice. They just embellished it for
- 20:56entertainment and civic pride. But on the other pole, you have
- 21:00the independent entrepreneurs. This is where things get
- 21:02volatile. These are the philosophers, the
- 21:05wandering teachers, the early Orphic sects.
- 21:07These independent experts did not have state funding.
- 21:10They did not have the security of a public salary.
- 21:13So to make a name for themselves to attract wealthy students,
- 21:17they had to be radical disruptors.
- 21:20They directly criticized the traditional system of
- 21:23reciprocity. They looked at the farmer's
- 21:26barbecue and claimed the gods could not be bribed with a piece
- 21:30of cooked meat. They argued that the gods wanted
- 21:32something else entirely. They proposed that the divine
- 21:36realm desired inner purity, correct intellectual beliefs,
- 21:40and a philosophical understanding of the cosmos.
- 21:43This makes sense from a self preservation standpoint.
- 21:46If the gods just want a BBQ, the farmer does not need the
- 21:49philosopher. But if the gods want
- 21:50intellectual purity, suddenly the philosopher is the most
- 21:53important man in town. So these literate guys are
- 21:56starting to look down on the farmers.
- 21:57They are rolling their eyes at the simple jar in the storeroom
- 22:00holding Zeus of the possessions. But here is the mechanism I'm
- 22:03trying to understand. How did they actually change the
- 22:06rules of the game? Yeah, how does a wandering
- 22:09philosopher with a scroll convince an entire town of
- 22:12farmers that the shared meal they have been practicing for
- 22:15centuries is actually wrong? Why didn't the farmers just
- 22:18ignore them? They achieved this through a
- 22:20process of translating ritual into enigma.
- 22:23Translating ritual into enigma, Yes.
- 22:26They began treating ancient traditions, everyday practices,
- 22:29and physical rituals as puzzles or complex symbols that needed
- 22:33decoding. They introduced the concept of
- 22:36allegory into the religious framework.
- 22:38And conveniently, decoding that allegory was something only the
- 22:41literate specialists could do. Yeah, it is the core of their
- 22:44strategy. If the ritual's just a shared
- 22:46meal to maintain a social Ledger, anyone can do it.
- 22:49The farmer is self-sufficient. But if the specialist convinces
- 22:52the public that the ritual is actually a symbolic
- 22:54representation of hidden cosmic truths, then the physical act
- 22:58itself is useless unless you understand the hidden meaning.
- 23:01And understand the hidden meaning.
- 23:03You need a specialist to explain it to you.
- 23:05I love the historical examples the source brings up to show
- 23:08this happening in real time. It mentions Aristophanes, the
- 23:11famous comic playwright of Athens.
- 23:14Aristophanes is great. He clearly found these
- 23:17independent literate specialist incredibly annoying and he
- 23:20mocked them mercilessly on stage.
- 23:22In his play The Birds, there is a scene that captures this exact
- 23:26dynamic. A character character named
- 23:28Pisthateris is trying to sacrifice a goat to found a new
- 23:31city. He is engaging in the normal
- 23:33everyday practice of social exchange.
- 23:36But suddenly an Oracle speaker shows up holding a book of
- 23:39prophecies written by a guy named Basis The.
- 23:41Oracle Speaker interrupts the physical ritual and claims that
- 23:44his text forbids the sacrifice. He bases this prohibition on a
- 23:49bizarre symbolic interpretation of the word a tear meaning the
- 23:52lower atmosphere. It is a brilliant piece of
- 23:54satire. Aristophanes is showing the
- 23:56absurdity of text interruption. Physical life.
- 23:58And in another play, Peace, a character rides a giant dung
- 24:02beetle to heaven, and the specialists of the day would try
- 24:04to allegorically interpret the dung beetle as a representation
- 24:07of a specific politician. Aristophanes is mocking a very
- 24:11real trend that was sweeping through the Greek world.
- 24:15He is making fun of these Ionian philosophers and independent
- 24:18experts who were coming into towns looking at everyday
- 24:21agricultural practices that have been going on for hundreds of
- 24:23years and suddenly claiming they hold secret cosmic truths that
- 24:27only the literate class could decode.
- 24:30What Aristophanes is reacting to is the colonization of everyday
- 24:34practice by the textual specialists.
- 24:37They're taking something deeply practical and local and forcibly
- 24:41imposing a universal, abstract meaning on top of it.
- 24:44Here's where it gets really interesting, because it is not
- 24:47just satire. We have physical proof of this
- 24:50intellectual gatekeeping happening in reality.
- 24:53The source mentions A fascinating artifact called the
- 24:55Darvini Papyrus. The Darvini papyrus is one of
- 24:57the most vital discoveries for understanding this shift.
- 25:00It is an ancient Greek papyrus role found in a tomb dating back
- 25:04to the time of Philip of Macedon.
- 25:06It contains A philosophical treatise written by an Orphic
- 25:09priest or diviner. And the sheer arrogance of the
- 25:11author is staggering. This divinatory priest
- 25:15explicitly criticizes normal people for doing rituals
- 25:18blindly. He writes about the common
- 25:20public performing sacrifices, and he claims that because they
- 25:23do not understand the hidden cosmological allegory behind the
- 25:26physical actions, their sacrifices are completely
- 25:29useless. The farmer thinks he is feeding
- 25:32the gods, maintaining the social Ledger and protecting his crops.
- 25:35But the priest with the scroll tells him no, your physical
- 25:38action is worthless because you do not have the correct
- 25:41intellectual understanding of the ritual.
- 25:43The ultimate form of intellectual gatekeeping.
- 25:46The specialist is boldly declaring your physical actions
- 25:49have no inherent value. Without my textual
- 25:52interpretation, he is creating a dependency.
- 25:54He is inserting himself as the mandatory middleman between the
- 25:58farmer and the unseen world. This ancient intellectual
- 26:02snobbery connects to a massive historical pivot.
- 26:04We were talking about the eventual total replacement of
- 26:07physical ritual with texts, the textualization of religion.
- 26:11This is what Stars calls the triumph of mind over matter.
- 26:14The literate specialists eventually succeeded in
- 26:16textualizing sacrifice altogether.
- 26:19Over centuries, they shifted the definition of worship from a
- 26:22physical act in the dirt involving animals and fire to a
- 26:26matter of inner truths, correct intellectual beliefs, and the
- 26:30study of written texts. The mind replace the altar.
- 26:34The source cites the Apostle Paul to illustrate this mind
- 26:37mental shift, specifically his words in Romans chapter 12.
- 26:41Paul urges his followers to present their bodies as a living
- 26:44sacrifice, which he calls their rational worship or spiritual
- 26:47worship, depending on the translation.
- 26:49Now, looking at this historically, through Stour's
- 26:51framework, Paul is utilizing the vocabulary of the everyday
- 26:55social exchange, the physical sacrifice, and completely
- 26:59bypassing the external offering of animals.
- 27:01He is taking the concept and moving it entirely into the
- 27:04realm of the renewed mind and the internal disposition toward
- 27:07a universal, transcendent God. From a historical and
- 27:10sociological perspective, Paul's rhetoric is a masterful example
- 27:14of this shift. He is redefining the parameters
- 27:16of engagement. The action is no longer an
- 27:19external physical BBQ meant to appease a localized spirit.
- 27:23It is an internal, cognitive and holistic surrender of the self.
- 27:27The mind and the living body become the site of the
- 27:29sacrifice, guided by theological truth rather than practical
- 27:34appeasement. And we see this shift away from
- 27:36the physical altar happening outside of Christianity as well.
- 27:40The source highlights the rabbinic tradition that
- 27:42developed after the destruction of the Judean Temple in 70 AD by
- 27:46the Romans. Before the destruction, the
- 27:48temple was the center of a massive, bloody, exhausting
- 27:51physical reality. Priests were slaughtering
- 27:54thousands of animals. It was a massive logistical and
- 27:57physical operation. But when the temple falls, the
- 27:59physical altar is gone. The rabbi's do not just give up
- 28:02and disappear. They create an imaginative,
- 28:05highly resilient, portable religion.
- 28:07The Rabbinic solution is one of the most remarkable adaptations
- 28:10in history. Since they could no longer
- 28:12physically sacrifice the animals, they determined that
- 28:15studying the texts about the sacrifices became the substitute
- 28:18for the sacrifices themselves. The intellectual activity of
- 28:22reading and debating the law replaced the physical activity
- 28:25of the slaughter. It is like replacing a physical
- 28:28handshake deal with reading a massive legal contract.
- 28:31The physical interaction is gone, replaced entirely by the
- 28:34activity of the mind. You do not shake hands anymore,
- 28:37you just gather together and read the clause about the
- 28:39handshake. But this raises a a major
- 28:41mechanical question for me. Did the average people just
- 28:45accept this? Did the farmers, the tradesmen,
- 28:48the vast majority of the population just give up their
- 28:51festive meals, drop their local traditions and say cool, I will
- 28:54just go listen to a guy read a scroll instead because human
- 28:57nature does not usually change that quickly?
- 29:00That is the crucial reality check of Sauer's paper.
- 29:03The everyday religion never fully disappeared.
- 29:06The fundamental human desire to manage the uncertain world
- 29:09through physical action remained.
- 29:11People still needed rain. They still had mice in their
- 29:14grain. They still wanted to share
- 29:16physical meals to build social bonds.
- 29:18The 98% did not simply become philosophers overnight.
- 29:22Instead of the everyday practices disappearing, the
- 29:24literate specialists aligned with political leaders to create
- 29:28structural overlays. They built institutional
- 29:30frameworks that force the two different modes to coexist.
- 29:33Structural overlays This brings us to Stowers final two modes,
- 29:38which are political structures sitting on top of the foundation
- 29:41we have discussed. Mode 3 is civic religion, often
- 29:45called Polish religion. Mode 4 is the religion of
- 29:48literate specialists tied to actual institutional political
- 29:52power. Let's look at civic religion
- 29:54first. How did the politicians utilize
- 29:56the BBQ? In civic religion, the local
- 29:59land owners, the aristocrats and the city magistrates took the
- 30:02everyday localized farm practices and centralized them.
- 30:05They scaled up the neighborhood BBQ into massive citywide
- 30:08festivals funded by the state. And in doing so, they reimagined
- 30:12the gods. The gods were no longer just
- 30:14Moody, unpredictable entities lingering outside the farmhouse
- 30:18window. They were rebranded strictly as
- 30:20benevolent, patriotic patrons of the city state.
- 30:23They took the local spirits and turned them into city mascots.
- 30:26The state Co opted the everyday practices to build civic unity
- 30:30and reinforce social hierarchies.
- 30:32The local landowner brings his offering to the central temple.
- 30:36The state officials oversee the massive slaughter and the meat
- 30:39is distributed to the citizens. It satisfies the common person's
- 30:42desire for a festive meal and physical ritual, while
- 30:46simultaneously demonstrating the power and generosity of the
- 30:49political elite. The ritual is no longer just
- 30:52about feeding a local spirit. It is about declaring loyalty to
- 30:55Athens or Rome or Ephesus. That explains how the
- 30:59politicians managed it, but mode 4 is where the literate
- 31:03specialists finally get their hands on the actual levers of
- 31:06power. We see this vividly in the early
- 31:08Christian Church as it became institutionalized within the
- 31:11Roman Empire, particularly after Constantine.
- 31:14The specialists, the theologians and bishops gained real
- 31:17political and institutional authority.
- 31:20They had the backing of the state to enforce their textual
- 31:23interpretations. What's fascinating here is how
- 31:25this tension played out on the ground between the elites and
- 31:27the common people. Stowers uses a concept developed
- 31:30by historian Ramsay McMullen to illustrate this dynamic.
- 31:34McMullen talks about the phenomenon of the 1st and 2nd
- 31:36churches. I found this image to be one of
- 31:39the most compelling parts of the entire deep dive breakdown.
- 31:42The difference between the 1st and 2nd churches for us.
- 31:45The First Church refers to the official institutional
- 31:48structure. This was the domain of the
- 31:50clergy. The literate deletes the bishops
- 31:54and the wealthy property owners. They worshipped inside the
- 31:57physical basilica. Their religious practice was
- 31:59focused entirely on high minded theological concepts, correct
- 32:03doctrine, the reading of scripture and the delivery of
- 32:06complex sermons. The realm of the mind, the
- 32:09domain of the 2% who could read the texts and debate the
- 32:13theology. Yes, but the second church was
- 32:15located physically outside those walls.
- 32:18He was out in the cemeteries, in the rural shrines.
- 32:20The masses of average people, the 98%, were still out there
- 32:24practicing A modified version of everyday social exchange.
- 32:28They were holding feasts at the graves of dead martyrs.
- 32:31They were seeking local miracles.
- 32:33They were leaving physical offerings at shrines, hoping for
- 32:36agricultural blessings or physical healing.
- 32:38They took the new figures of the Christian era, the Saints and
- 32:41the martyrs, and treated them exactly like the localized
- 32:45interested parties from the old Pagan everyday religion.
- 32:48From a theological perspective, we recognize this immediately as
- 32:52a human heart's stubborn tendency toward works based
- 32:56appeasement. They just swapped the names on
- 32:59the jars in the storeroom. Instead of Zeus of the
- 33:02Possessions keeping the mice away, it became St. so and so
- 33:05keeping the mice away. Instead of leaving a piece of
- 33:07meat for a local Damon, they poured out wine on a martyr's
- 33:11tomb to get a favor. The physical practice of
- 33:13reciprocity. The attempt to manage the local
- 33:16environment through appeasement remained identical.
- 33:19The tension this created must have been incredible.
- 33:22The historical records show it was a source of massive
- 33:25frustration for the Church Fathers.
- 33:27You have the specialists inside the basilica constantly writing
- 33:29treatises, trying to enforce the right meanings of rituals,
- 33:33preaching about abstract theology and the spiritual
- 33:36nature of worship. And right outside the walls, the
- 33:38average person is holding a loud drunken feast on a tomb to
- 33:42secure a good harvest. The specialist looked down on
- 33:45the physical local practices as crude, ignorant, or even
- 33:49demonic. Well, the people were just
- 33:50trying to use the tools they understood to survive the
- 33:53uncertainties of life. It is a perpetual tug of war,
- 33:56the elite constantly trying to textualize and intellectualize
- 33:59practice and the mass is continually returning to
- 34:02localized physical reciprocity. The elite write the rules, but
- 34:06the common people live the reality.
- 34:09And because the elite wrote the history books for centuries,
- 34:12modern scholars assumed that the abstract theological version of
- 34:16religion was the only one that truly mattered, even antiquity.
- 34:20We adopted the biases of the 2%. So what does this all mean If we
- 34:24synthesize this entire deep dive into Stauer's research, Ancient
- 34:28sacrifice was not a dramatic, guilt ridden theological event
- 34:32for the vast majority of people. It was a practical reciprocal
- 34:35meal with the local divine neighbors.
- 34:36You give a little food, you get a little protection.
- 34:39It was a management strategy for an unpredictable world.
- 34:42It was only when a tiny fraction of literate specialists gained
- 34:45control of the historical record and later gained political power
- 34:49that the concept of religion became universally defined by
- 34:52hidden meanings, texts and internal beliefs.
- 34:56The framework we used to judge the past was built by the few
- 34:59guys who read the scrolls, and they used that framework to
- 35:02declare that the practical habits of everyone else were
- 35:05invalid. The physical act of the common
- 35:08people was hijacked by the textual interpretation of the
- 35:11elite. The medium of writing itself
- 35:13altered our historical perception of human practice.
- 35:16Which leaves us with a massive realization, since almost all of
- 35:19human history is recorded by that 2% of literate specialists.
- 35:23Our entire modern secular definition of religion, the
- 35:27assumption that it always requires a set of intellectual
- 35:29beliefs, a holy book, and a systematic theology, is heavily
- 35:33biased by the medium of writing itself.
- 35:36We have been seeing the past through the glasses of the
- 35:38people who held the pens. We assume theology always
- 35:41preceded practice, when in reality, for most of human
- 35:43history, the physical practice was all there was.
- 35:46It forces us to question how much of our own behavior we
- 35:49judge through an artificial, highly intellectualized lens.
- 35:53We are conditioned to search for deep symbolic meaning in every
- 35:57action. I want to leave you with a final
- 35:59thought to Mull over as we close.
- 36:01Are there parts of your own daily life that you over
- 36:04intellectualize just to give them a supposed meaning, when
- 36:07really they're simply practical habits designed to keep your
- 36:10local world running smoothly? Do you invent a complex
- 36:13philosophy for why you arrange your desk a certain way, or why
- 36:16you take a specific route to work when really it just feels
- 36:19right and gets the job done? We love to construct elaborate
- 36:22rationalizations for our routines, just like the ancient
- 36:24specialists did. But sometimes a habit is just a
- 36:27habit, and sometimes a meal is just a meal.
- 36:31Thank you for getting us on this deep dive into the source
- 36:33material.