Latest / The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network / Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 179 | Jaguars Offense Through Six Weeks, Threats Posed by Rams

Transcript

Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 179 | Jaguars Offense Through Six Weeks, Threats Posed by Rams · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

• 0:18
  Speaker 1: Welcome to JAGZAM today. Can Annie Stephens, Fran sext and
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: John Osier with you. It's afternoon here in England as
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: we get ready for the match against the Rams this
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: week in Wembley. But good morning to everybody back in Jacksonville.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: For JAGXAM today, we're gonna talk a lot about the
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: opponent and what we're expecting this weekend. After a frustrating
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: loss against the Seahawks, they're going to try to rebound
• 0:37
  Speaker 1: coming up. So let's go over some of our big
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: things today, brought to you by g e h A
• 0:40
  Speaker 1: Government Employees Health Association.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Big thing number.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: One is mentor versus protege. And I bring this up
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: because there's a couple of them, and in regards to
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: the Rams and the Jags, of course you have the
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: head coaching Sean McVay Rams and Liam Cohen who worked
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: previously for Sean McVay, but also when you're looking at
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: general managers as well, when we're talking about James Gladstone
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: who worked under Less Need for the Rams for a
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: long time as well, so Brian. A lot of what
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: they're trying to do is take some of the positive
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: and the successes that they've seen in LA and bring
• 1:07
  Speaker 1: them to Jacksonville.
• 1:08
  Speaker 3: Listen, when you talk to people who have worked in
• 1:10
  Speaker 3: the RAMS organization, and there's some people that I know
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: that still work in the RAMS organization, they talk about
• 1:15
  Speaker 3: the quality from the top to the bottom, the way
• 1:17
  Speaker 3: that they go about scouting players, coaching players, the way
• 1:21
  Speaker 3: that they treat their staff, the things that are important
• 1:23
  Speaker 3: to them. They have a very high standard and everyone
• 1:26
  Speaker 3: works towards that standard, which John is what I have
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: seen here in the early going. Since Tony Basseli, James Gladstone,
• 1:33
  Speaker 3: and Liam Cohen got.
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: Together, it feels that way.
• 1:37
  Speaker 3: And listen, there is a lot of affection between all
• 1:41
  Speaker 3: of the parties that Kai just mentioned because of the
• 1:43
  Speaker 3: success that they had and because of the quality of
• 1:47
  Speaker 3: people that they are.
• 1:48
  Speaker 4: On a couple of thoughts, it's funny because they came
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: in together. Everybody thought like Liam and James were like buds, right,
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: and they really weren't in LA. But I think what
• 1:59
  Speaker 4: they both found they so I take this from sort
• 2:02
  Speaker 4: of listening to him. Once they got together, they were
• 2:05
  Speaker 4: very like minded because they had both been with the RAMS,
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: and they both feel the same way about football. Both
• 2:11
  Speaker 4: coaches kids that sort of thing. One thing about Gladstone,
• 2:16
  Speaker 4: in talking to people of the Rams, they knew as
• 2:19
  Speaker 4: soon as he got interviewed, they knew he was going
• 2:23
  Speaker 4: to be gone. He was that important, he was that
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: good to that organization. Look, I don't think the Jaguars
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: want to be Rams South, but Gladstone, I think it
• 2:33
  Speaker 4: was that the Combine did call the Rams the north Star.
• 2:36
  Speaker 4: It's a good organization to have as your guidepost. And
• 2:40
  Speaker 4: that's what it feels like. And you can feel what
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: you're talking about, Brian, the quality of individual that are involved,
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: in the quality of the way they do things.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: And they win. I mean since they took over there,
• 2:52
  Speaker 2: they have.
• 2:53
  Speaker 3: In the seven previous seasons to this one, they have
• 2:57
  Speaker 3: six playoff years, super Bowl appearances and one super Bowl
• 3:01
  Speaker 3: championships and.
• 3:02
  Speaker 4: One playoff year they were decimated by any Yeah, it
• 3:05
  Speaker 4: was alway impossible for the the playoffs. So they've been
• 3:08
  Speaker 4: remarkably consistent.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: Absolutely definitely something you want to base your franchise off of.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: Let's go to our big thing Number two. We'll get
• 3:14
  Speaker 1: to the game a little bit and it's when push
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: comes to shove. We talked a ton about what the
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: offensive line did last week. Against Seahawks, how they struggled.
• 3:22
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence talked about kind of moving on from that.
• 3:29
  Speaker 5: You know, you can't take one game and freak out
• 3:31
  Speaker 5: and let let you lose sight of kind of the
• 3:35
  Speaker 5: progress you've made and the things that you have done well,
• 3:37
  Speaker 5: and you just got to get back to some of
• 3:38
  Speaker 5: the basics, some of the fundamentals. Just do the little
• 3:41
  Speaker 5: things well. We got to clean up the penalties, like
• 3:42
  Speaker 5: we've talked about, that's something that we can control. I
• 3:44
  Speaker 5: think if we start there, there'll be huge improvement. So
• 3:48
  Speaker 5: then beyond that, there's little things that we can find Toune,
• 3:50
  Speaker 5: but that's the starting point of us.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: John.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: It's easier said than done, I'm sure, but trying to
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: get these penalties down and also on the offense, maybe
• 4:00
  Speaker 1: getting the running game going so they don't have to
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: pass as much and then thus seven sacks seventeen.
• 4:05
  Speaker 4: Quarterback hits I laughed when he said, you can't take
• 4:07
  Speaker 4: one game and freak out, because.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: That's that's what we're doing.
• 4:10
  Speaker 4: So the hands do. I mean, look, it is harder
• 4:16
  Speaker 4: than it sounds to reduce the penalties because a lot
• 4:19
  Speaker 4: of the penalties have come from them trying to learn
• 4:21
  Speaker 4: this offense trying to implement it, and it's complex and
• 4:24
  Speaker 4: it needs pre snap stuff and there's going to come
• 4:26
  Speaker 4: a point where they all get it. But until then,
• 4:29
  Speaker 4: Liam is trying to find that balance between pre snap
• 4:32
  Speaker 4: and just making sure you get it. But you have
• 4:34
  Speaker 4: to do pre snap because if you don't, you can't
• 4:35
  Speaker 4: read the defense. I do think getting the running game
• 4:40
  Speaker 4: going is key, not just for the run, but it
• 4:43
  Speaker 4: will help alleviate a lot of the pressure on the
• 4:45
  Speaker 4: quarterback because you'll be in better down in distance, which,
• 4:47
  Speaker 4: by the way, Brian, if you reduce the penalties, that
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: happens too. So cleaning up it's so easy. We all
• 4:55
  Speaker 4: talk about cleaning up right. Well, if it was easy,
• 4:58
  Speaker 4: it wouldn't be a mess in the first place. So
• 5:02
  Speaker 4: that is the goal and we'll see if they can
• 5:03
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 5:04
  Speaker 3: There's a physical demand to this too, Kai when you
• 5:06
  Speaker 3: watch the tape, and I talked with Jeff Logan on
• 5:07
  Speaker 3: the practice field about this.
• 5:08
  Speaker 2: Yesterday.
• 5:09
  Speaker 3: You had a rookie center and you had guys who
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: were seeing so much because they couldn't run. It felt
• 5:15
  Speaker 3: like they were taking an extra step backwards to give
• 5:17
  Speaker 3: themselves a little bit more space to read and react
• 5:20
  Speaker 3: to what was going on, and in doing so, they
• 5:23
  Speaker 3: were soft. They just gave up too much and by
• 5:26
  Speaker 3: the time Trevor Lawrence was ready to throw, there was
• 5:30
  Speaker 3: someone in his space the whole day. So they've got
• 5:33
  Speaker 3: to be stout for whatever that means. They've got to
• 5:35
  Speaker 3: be firm, they've got to hold the line of the
• 5:37
  Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. And it's important to remind people that
• 5:39
  Speaker 3: for the first five weeks in the season they did
• 5:41
  Speaker 3: just that. They only gave up six sacks. They created
• 5:44
  Speaker 3: room in the running game. Last week, at least in
• 5:47
  Speaker 3: the course of this season is the anomaly. So we'll
• 5:51
  Speaker 3: see if they can get back to that where they
• 5:53
  Speaker 3: don't give up a little bit of extra space, where
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: they're stronger, more firm at the point of attack. Although
• 5:59
  Speaker 3: that's challenge this week because obviously you've got Verse and
• 6:02
  Speaker 3: Young and Kobe Turner in the middle. Jaguars are going
• 6:05
  Speaker 3: to have to fix some things on the practice field today,
• 6:06
  Speaker 3: tomorrow and Saturday to be ready for it.
• 6:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Britain Strange being out too doesn't help here. And
• 6:11
  Speaker 4: it's not that he's a pass blocker per se, but
• 6:14
  Speaker 4: he's a great run blocker. So all of a sudden
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: you're getting a little less in the run game. And
• 6:18
  Speaker 4: again it circles back to if the running game is
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: not working, it's a lot harder to pass protect.
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: All comes together, our final big thing today is going
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: to be top priority. We've talked about this to some
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: degree every week, I think at this point, but Travis
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: Hunter on offense, Is this the week we see more
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: involvement from him in the past game?
• 6:37
  Speaker 2: Please? Yes?
• 6:38
  Speaker 3: I mean every time he's got the ball in his hands,
• 6:40
  Speaker 3: you see what makes him special. There's there have not
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: been many receivers in Jaguars history that have the movement skills.
• 6:47
  Speaker 3: I mean not to say they can't run a jump
• 6:49
  Speaker 3: like you can, but I mean he just he's got
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: that something, that X factor that it about him. Throw
• 6:55
  Speaker 3: the ball to him as often as you can. But
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: you know that's what the Rams are going to try
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: and take him away.
• 6:58
  Speaker 4: Rights true, because they have tried. They've had things in
• 7:03
  Speaker 4: for Travis Hunter, and there's been times where Trevor's missed him.
• 7:06
  Speaker 4: Quite frankly, there's been times where it's in and then
• 7:09
  Speaker 4: you don't get the pass off or there's pressure. So
• 7:13
  Speaker 4: they're gonna keep trying. One thing I do know, you know,
• 7:17
  Speaker 4: I get a lot of questions, should he be playing
• 7:19
  Speaker 4: less on offense? Should be playing but there's no inclination
• 7:22
  Speaker 4: to play him less. The inclination is they think he's
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: might be their best cornerback, so he's gonna play there, yep.
• 7:29
  Speaker 4: And they want to keep trying to get him the
• 7:32
  Speaker 4: ball on offense because this team lacks big plays. Still,
• 7:37
  Speaker 4: you don't take this kid out if you want big plays.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: What's remarkable is how patient he's been. Right.
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, so many receivers in this league when they
• 7:45
  Speaker 3: don't see the ball. Garrett Wilson in New York is
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: a great example, because he was so demonstrative here in
• 7:49
  Speaker 3: London last week about the game plan and how it
• 7:52
  Speaker 3: didn't work to get him involved. There's no there's no
• 7:56
  Speaker 3: sense of that from Travis Hunter, and comprobed by the
• 7:59
  Speaker 3: fact that he's we played for Dean Sanders, you'd expect
• 8:03
  Speaker 3: to see more of that, and you don't. He's remarkably humble.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: He does want the football because he wants to help
• 8:08
  Speaker 3: his team win.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: And I think we'll see more of that at some point,
• 8:11
  Speaker 1: and I'm hoping it's this week. Say with us here,
• 8:13
  Speaker 1: we'll look ahead and deep dive a little bit into
• 8:15
  Speaker 1: what the Rams are bringing to the table this weekend.
• 8:26
  Speaker 6: We've protected at a high level in a lot of ways.
• 8:29
  Speaker 6: Last week was a tough go, so they know, we
• 8:32
  Speaker 6: all know it takes truly, not just those guys up front.
• 8:34
  Speaker 6: We've got to help them and have a responsibility as coaches,
• 8:38
  Speaker 6: but also hey, stepping up to the plate and worrying
• 8:40
  Speaker 6: about us. Let's go get better at our sets, the
• 8:44
  Speaker 6: way that we slide and pass protection, the way that
• 8:46
  Speaker 6: we protect our fundamentals, our techniques, and worry about those
• 8:51
  Speaker 6: things and not so much the guys that we're playing against.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: Silliam Cohen talking about addressing some of the offensive line problems,
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: but Brian, that's a lot easier said than done when
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: you're going up against what the Rams are going to
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: be trotting out there this week.
• 9:05
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, we talked a little bit about it in the
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: last segment. But you've got Brian, Byron Young who has
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: seven and a half sacks, the second most in the NFL,
• 9:13
  Speaker 3: at Jared Verus who has three and last week combined
• 9:15
  Speaker 3: for three, and Kobe Turner on the inside, who can
• 9:18
  Speaker 3: be a wrecking ball. He's not Aaron Donald, but he's very,
• 9:20
  Speaker 3: very good. So you've got to maybe you get Robert
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: Hansey back this week. We don't know what I mean,
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: find out this week how he practices. But you've got
• 9:28
  Speaker 3: a lot to do.
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes you have a tough game and you get
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: better the next week and everybody says, well, who'd you play?
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: You won't have that problem this week. It'll be a test.
• 9:37
  Speaker 4: I trust they can pass the test. I don't think
• 9:39
  Speaker 4: what they did wrong against Seattle is necessarily not fixable.
• 9:43
  Speaker 4: I think the Rams will get some sacks, but again
• 9:46
  Speaker 4: it's going to depend on They've got to run, and
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be for one hundred and forty yards,
• 9:51
  Speaker 4: but they have to make the Rams respect the run.
• 9:53
  Speaker 3: The Rams aren't nearly as good against the run, at
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: least they haven't been this year as Seattle is, so
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: they should be able to find some room open.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: Things up a little bit. I find the coaching matchup interesting.
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: It's always interesting when you're kind of facing an offense
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: that maybe yours is built off of. To some respect,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: I asked Cohen yesterday at the presser, kind of is
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: that weird? Is it a pros it a con? He said,
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a chess match. But he
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: spent some time this week talking with the tensive Corneers
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: about game planning, and he said that was helpful for
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: him to kind of lay things out for coach Campanelli.
• 10:25
  Speaker 6: So many of the ball plays are similar that you
• 10:28
  Speaker 6: see each week. What makes Sean and those guys, I
• 10:31
  Speaker 6: think different. It is just the details that go into it,
• 10:34
  Speaker 6: in the amount of how specific emotions are, how efficient
• 10:39
  Speaker 6: they are at their operation pre snap identifying it what
• 10:44
  Speaker 6: they're looking for maybe in some of these plays, whether
• 10:47
  Speaker 6: they're can To run or Canada pass, Canada screens, whatever
• 10:51
  Speaker 6: it is. I think that's where he has a notch above.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: John.
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: Liam obviously has a ton of respect for McVeigh and
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: what they've done with that organization. It's so it's kind
• 11:04
  Speaker 1: of interesting to know a little bit of the insider details,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: but you also have to work on your own game plan.
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: Well. I think where it gets interesting is and Liam
• 11:11
  Speaker 4: alluded to this when he was talking there's no mystery
• 11:16
  Speaker 4: when Liam's coaching against McVeigh. There's no mystery about where
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: he's coming from, and there's no mystery about why they're
• 11:22
  Speaker 4: going to do certain things. And I think he said
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: situationally is when he'll sort of know, Okay, Sean's going
• 11:29
  Speaker 4: to do this here and he's going to try to
• 11:31
  Speaker 4: get somebody isolated here. I'm sure that's helped in game planning.
• 11:35
  Speaker 4: So it as we've listened to Liam this year, and
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: you guys have listened to him the same way I have.
• 11:43
  Speaker 4: You see why the McVeigh tree and the way they
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: approach football is starting to be the thing in the league.
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: There are certain coaches who define generations, Gibbs Walsh, these guys,
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: the McVeigh approach is starting to define the NFL. So
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: these you guys are both well versed in it, and
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: there won't be any mysteries on either side about sort
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: of why the other team's doing things. I think I
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: think guys right, she's been on all week. I think
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: it's the fascinating matchup it is.
• 12:10
  Speaker 3: And you can also, though, expect that Liam will use
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: some of the other influences that he's gained from his
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: time at Kentucky, you know, from his time with Todd
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: Bowles and that staff over in Tampa Bay, to try
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: to cloud it right, muddy the water's a little bit
• 12:24
  Speaker 3: plan give him some things that maybe he has not seen,
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: which is advantage to him because Sean has been there
• 12:32
  Speaker 3: doing the same things over and over. Now you could say, well,
• 12:34
  Speaker 3: Sean's brought new coaches in and had other influence as well. Absolutely,
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: there are those chess pieces where it's like, how do
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: I disguise what he thinks I'm going to do?
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: And that'll make it a lot of fun.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the quarterback matchup, Brian.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: You asked Cohen yesterday a little bit about what makes
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: Stafford so special. Here's what he had to say.
• 12:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't trust those eyes. Now, don't trust his eyes,
• 12:58
  Speaker 6: but we've talked to it. It's this full command of
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: the operation that ultimately we have to be great with
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: our disguises, we have to be great with our spot
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: drop coverages. We've got to try to affect the pocket
• 13:10
  Speaker 6: obviously in a lot of ways. But he has such
• 13:14
  Speaker 6: a great way of dissecting pre snap and then operating
• 13:20
  Speaker 6: post snap.
• 13:24
  Speaker 4: Don't trust the eyes, Listen.
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: He's got seventeen years in professional football, and even when
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: he was in Detroit, he was a guy who was very,
• 13:33
  Speaker 3: very talented. What he's done with Sean McVay out there
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: and winning like he has has just given you a
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: greater sense of the type of talent that he is.
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: I remember standing on the practice field on Friday after
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: the Rams Niners Thursday night game a couple weeks back
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: and listening to liab raving about the things that Matt
• 13:53
  Speaker 3: Stafford did, and he called him the og.
• 13:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's just they're.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: So smart and has seen almost everything over the course
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: of his career. You can't discount It's that's a key matchup.
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: It's one of the things that the Rams have on
• 14:06
  Speaker 3: their side every Sunday, but this week that's a guy
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: who could really cause a lot of problems for Well.
• 14:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's the thing that a lot of people
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: overlook about the Rams because Safford's been around forever. He's
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: never been like the best quarterback in the league on
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: a given years, so you know, nobody talks about him
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: a whole lot, but seventeen years he has seen everything.
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: On the Huddle Up Podcast yesterday, Bucky Brooks I thought,
• 14:30
  Speaker 4: really broke down Stafford well and talked about how unselfish
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: he is. It doesn't have to be his game. He
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: can manage it and then when it's time for it
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: to be his game, he's capable of making plays. Look
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: what Liam said. I was kind of laughing when Liam
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: was talking about it. He's great pre snap and Greek
• 14:48
  Speaker 4: and great post nap, which great. What else is there
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: going to dinner? I mean, he's very good. He can
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: run it and you're not going to fool him a
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: whole lot. So Look, he's high end and he may
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: not have his best receiver this week, which which couldn't matter.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: It does help.
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: But he also had Devanta Adams who had.
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: One hundred andy eight yards or two fourth quarter touchdowns
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: for the Jets against the Jags last year.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: That one still Yeah, Yes, I think that's a good point, John,
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: because we've been talking a ton. Puka Nakua has not
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: practiced so far this week. We'll see what happens on Thursday.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: But DeVante Adams got after us pretty good and he's
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: still talented.
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: I don't think any Jaguars fans are gonna forget that
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: for a while.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: Well, and this year the Jaguars have allowed a couple
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: of guys to go off right. Last week we saw
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: one hundred and what fifty yards one hundred and sixty
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: yards from at Jamar Chase had won sixty five at
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Nico Collins had the fourth quarter touchdown one.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Hundred and four yards.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: The secondary has given up two great receivers, some big performances,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: some great production this year, so they've got to tighten
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: it up absolutely.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: Also, what's dangerous about the RAMS is you think about
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: a Cooper Cup was very, very good and then when
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: he started to Wanne was very good. I'm not calling
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: them system wide receivers, but somebody in that offense is
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: going to get theirs if it's running right. So don't
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: just necessarily think if they're best guys out there, they're
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: not going to be.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Good, says on Jagzam. Coming up, we'll give you our
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: predictions for Sunday's matchup. Jack Zam brought to you by
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Field to Auto Group, Jacksonville's premier luxury auto grouphead over
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: two Fields Auto dot Com. Also brought to you by
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Sutteth Moving and Storage, Florida's most trusted and dependable moving company.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Setteth proud to be the official moving company of the
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. Get your guaranteed quote at Sutteth dot com
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: slash Jacksonville. Welcome back to Jagzam. We're going to do
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: our best to predict the future of what the headlines
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: are going to be on Monday morning after this game
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: on Sunday at Wembley, Brian, what do you think they're
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: going to look?
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll go with friends and foes.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I think it's going to feel very friendly before the game.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: Obviously for the reasons that you elaborated on at the top.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: It's been a great storyline to follow all week long.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: I don't think that Liam Cohen is going to walk
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: off feeling very chummy.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like this matchup very much.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I think that the Rams are quietly a much better
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: team than people see them as right now because of
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: their record. They went to Philadelphia and probably should have
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: knocked off the Eagles at a moment where the Eagles
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: were really charging. I think the Gigers have the pieces
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: to be able to go do this, and I love
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: with his coach and his coaching staff for doing John.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I just think that a team that's so mistake prone,
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, they just shoot themselves in the foot over
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: and over and over. Now, they didn't done Monday Night football,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: and they got the job done. But right now that
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: the holding penalties that the quarterback's not been entirely accurate.
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: I just have a hard time seeing them getting over
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: this hump. I'll take four and three going into the
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: bye week is with the extra time to really dial
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: in on the mistake that they make, the mistakes that
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: they make over and over and get ready for the
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: second half of the season, which I think is a
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: much more favorable skit.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Joel, Yeah, I think what you worry about is the
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: Rams are one of those teams that can get tempo going,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: and if things are going against you early, they can
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: take advantage of it. You worry about some mistakes and
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: the Rams getting a double digit lead and not being
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: able to get back into it because you're so negative
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: all the time. I went with a rapid response, and
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, Brian, I'm worried about this game. I
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: thought before the season this Seahawks Rams stretch was really dangerous,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: and everybody was talking about the Chiefs and then you
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: know there are two very quietly good teams that can
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: get you if you're not playing well. But I went
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: rapid response because I think it's their first chance to
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: really respond to real adversity. When they lost to Cincinnati,
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: it was very easy and probably correct to say well,
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: we should have won the game, because they probably should
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: have won the game. They were up, They had dominated
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: that whole game, and you felt good about it. You
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: didn't have the same good feelings after Seattle, even though
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: to their credit, they were good enough to have figured
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: out a way maybe get back into that game but couldn't.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: But they didn't outplay the Seahawks. So it's their first
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: chance to sort of say, hey, we don't have to
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: feel this way about ourselves. And then if they get
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: back into it the rapid see all words matter here.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: I think if they're going to do it, I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: before the season we all thought dynamic offense, big plays.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas junior Travis Hunter hasn't been there. If they're
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: gonna win, I think they have to get plays out
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: of those guys.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: My prediction is it's not necessarily negative. I think I
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: would love to see I would love them to play
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the Rams again, like maybe mid season next year, because
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I feel for me, it just feels early to kind
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: of judge where the Liam Cohen regime is at. Plus,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: I think Trevor's gonna be under a ton of pressure
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: once again. We don't know what the offensive line is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: going to look like exactly. But with that Rams front
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: going to be tough for him and for me. Situational football, right,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: situational masters. Liam Cohen talks about all the time. McVay
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: is a master of that sort of thing. And I
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: think if it comes down to anything like that, the
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Rams have the upper hand, and not just because of coaching.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And I think that McVay is better than Cohen. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: don't think that at all. But you have to have
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: your players all bought in and understanding that. And I
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: don't know if the Jaguars right now, with the penalties
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and the mistakes that they're making, if it comes down
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to you know, having a late to make a late
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: drive and be really smart with the football and get
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: out of bounce to keep your time outs, just being
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: situationally smart, I don't know if they're there yet.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Well, boy, the dismal Gray London guys got to me.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Johnny Cheer over here, which is you know, always been
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: my name. Yeah, I am seeing the ray of light.
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: I'm ready to be wrong about that.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Everybody is just to your point.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: He talked yesterday, Liam did about how Sean mcvagh gets
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: the team ready, how he is able to take a
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: tough situation and work through it, keep them up in
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: their energy level up and the Rams show up ready
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: to play every week because of the way that McVeigh
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: has managed that for seven years, and that's something he
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: admires and something he's trying to copy. So it will
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: be interesting to see if you see something similar to
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: this from Lee from Liam this week in that vein.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Something he wants to get done is have those guys
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: ready to play. Just because I don't know that they
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: can overcome all of the mistakes that they make in
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: one week doesn't mean that they can't.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: There's a little bit of I'm teasing you guys about
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: being dismal. Also think about this, and this's and important
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: theme this week. You have Brendon Strange out, Trayvon's still
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: he's limited limited, you're now without Devin Lloyd. If you
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: could squeeze this one out and get to the by
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: five and two, beating them without those guys who are
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: foundation pieces to me for this team, I guess I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: feeding into the dismalness, but it would be a It's
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: going to be a tough lift and it would be
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: impressive if they can do it. Considering those circumstances, you.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Better have no more than four or five penalties if
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: you expect to win this game. Because those created the
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: long distance third down situations, they took away points when
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: you had scored them. You have got to play really
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: good football on Sunday at Wembley Stateium, good clean football.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Say with some Jagsam will tell you what's coming up
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the rest of the week before the match on Sunday.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Jaggs fans, if you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: check out zipchare dot com to browse all the customizable options.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Zipchair is furniture for fans.
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: We know who their good players are and have a
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: lot of respect for them. But the message this morning
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: was we've been to our game wreckers. You know, in
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of ways. We've played some really good opponents,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: and we have a lot of respect for those opponents.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: But until we look at ourselves and fix our mistakes,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: it doesn't matter who we're playing.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Nam Cohen touched on some of the same points we do.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: They have that game rerecords meeting where they talk about
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: some of you know, the best players they are going
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: to face on the upcoming team. But right now they're
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: wrecking the game for themselves in a bad way. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: just cleaning things up and getting back on track.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Well, you hope that a full week of practice helps
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: you in coverage because Greg Newsom has been here, right.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: I mean we saw him just briefly last week.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: And I was watching him with the practice field yesterday,
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: and you know, he looked like he was more in
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: tune with what they want. Your coverage had better be
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: good because DeVante Adams can cause a lot of problems
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know the exposive players and another theme. They
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: gave up two last week and they were killers. Give
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: a thirteen first downs, but two sixty one yard passes
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: that counter that. But overall, you know, I think we've
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: hit the theme if they can. You know, you can't
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: back yourself up if you're walking backward a lot. It's
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: hard to win in the NFL, and they walked backward
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: way too much last week.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, enjoy the game early morning on Sunday.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: We'll be back with you later days in the week
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: once we travel back from the UK.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: But enjoy it.