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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining me tonight. Why the major parties need
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Speaker 3: to put the Greens last and why Labor just can't
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Speaker 3: bring themselves to do it. I'll speak with former Labor
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Speaker 3: MP Michael danby Anthony Alberisi, described as a fine man
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Speaker 3: by Donald Trump. Good for Australia, But how's Albo gonna
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Speaker 3: shake that one off at the next labor shindig. National's
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Speaker 3: leader David Little Prop will join me on that issue. Also,
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Speaker 3: Donald Trump issues a new ultimatum for the Hummus terrorists,
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Speaker 3: release the hostages by Saturday or all hell will break loose.
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Speaker 3: I'll talk to Kristen Tate, also Tim Blair, Susi O'Brien
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Speaker 3: and Stephen Senna Tiempo on lots of things, including Woolli's
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Speaker 3: wanting its workers back in the office. Let's get started.
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Speaker 3: When Donald Trump had his call with Anthony Albersi this
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Speaker 3: morning our time, you can rest assured he would have
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Speaker 3: been briefed about the abuse albow had held his way
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Speaker 3: in the past. Along with his former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd,
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Speaker 3: now Australia's ambassador in Washington. The President would have been
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Speaker 3: given a written briefing detailing all of this and the
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Speaker 3: issues that they'd raise, And if Trump didn't read it,
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Speaker 3: his staff certainly would have summed it up for him
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Speaker 3: in a verbal briefing. It might have been fun hearing
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Speaker 3: them read out stuff like this to the commander in chief.
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Speaker 3: Who could believe our luck that this madman called Trump
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Speaker 3: could have been elected during the craziness the Trump administration
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Speaker 3: on climate and as the United States in the last
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Speaker 3: four years has been run by a village idiot because
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Speaker 3: of the essential incoherence of the man himself.
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Speaker 4: We have an alliance with the US, We're going to
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Speaker 4: deal with him, but that doesn't mean that you're uncritical
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Speaker 4: about it.
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Speaker 5: He scared it out of me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder who had the job of reading out
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Speaker 3: that one to the President. I would have loved to
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Speaker 3: have heard the actual call this morning. No doubt Trump
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Speaker 3: would have enjoyed the groveling from a man who once
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Speaker 3: said he was scared of Trump and who desperately needs
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Speaker 3: the President to give Australia an exemption from his steel
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Speaker 3: and aluminum tariffs. I mean, it should be a lay
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Speaker 3: down bazaire, because Trump gave us exactly the same exemption
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Speaker 3: during his first term, but Albanese's antipathy towards Trump in
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Speaker 3: the past, along with Rudds, has made this a pretty
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Speaker 3: delicate issue. Still, it seemed to go well today.
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Speaker 4: I presented Australia's case for an exemption, and we agreed
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Speaker 4: on wording to say publicly, which is that the US
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Speaker 4: President agreed that an exemption was under consideration.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Albanese might not have spoken very forcefully, or he might
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Speaker 3: have ummed an art a bit, but he might have
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Speaker 3: done the trick because not long afterwards, Trump was asked
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Speaker 3: about Australia's request.
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Speaker 7: I just spoke to him, very fine man, and he
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Speaker 7: has a surplus. I mean, we have a surplus with Australia.
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Speaker 7: What are the few And the reason is they buy
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Speaker 7: a lot of aeroplanes. They are rather far away and
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Speaker 7: they need lots of aeroplanes, and we actually have a surplus.
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Speaker 7: It's one of the only countries which we do. And
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Speaker 7: I told him that that's something that we will give
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Speaker 7: great consideration to have.
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Speaker 3: No, mister President, you're the ones who are pretty far away.
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Speaker 3: But that's a pretty encouraging response. White, although there's no
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Speaker 3: nothing concrete there yet. Maybe Trump will let everyone in
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Speaker 3: Australia stew until after the election. Who knows, But what
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Speaker 3: about that fine man compliment? Surely that made Albow's day.
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Speaker 3: Maybe that can be attributed to Jordan my Lata becoming
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Speaker 3: the first Ossie to win a Super Bowl yesterday. Remember
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Speaker 3: Trump was at the game, and of course Mary that
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Speaker 3: with Alberanezi's genuine connection to my lartest former NRL club
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Speaker 3: and the Prime Minister's wise effort to work it into
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Speaker 3: the conversation.
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Speaker 4: We spoke about a range of other things as well,
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Speaker 4: including the fact that Jordan Malater as a Super Bowl champion,
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Speaker 4: and I did point out that he was Assasinney Junior.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great story and it was pretty savvy
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Speaker 3: of Albow to appeal to Trump's mainstream and NFL persona.
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Speaker 3: It might just have got him a touchdown for Australia,
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Speaker 3: or at least a first down and goal. With the
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Speaker 3: election only a month or two away, the house full
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Speaker 3: of minor parties like the Greens and the Tills, and
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Speaker 3: the polls pointing towards a tight outcome, the nightmare scenario
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Speaker 3: after the election is a hung parliament. I mean, some
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Speaker 3: of us are old enough to remember the farce of
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Speaker 3: fifteen years ago when two so called independents turned their
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Speaker 3: backs on their conservative pasts and their Conservative electorates. They
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Speaker 3: wield and dealed with Labor, and then one of them
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Speaker 3: gave us seventeen minutes of gibberish before announcing the fate
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Speaker 3: of the nation.
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Speaker 2: So through that process, on an absolute judgment call, and
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Speaker 2: I emphasize it's a points decision, I'm confirming for the
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Speaker 2: Governor General of Australia that today I'll do what I
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Speaker 2: have always done, ironically and give confidence and supply to government.
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Speaker 2: And in effect that means confidence and supply in Julia
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Speaker 2: Gillard unless and I emphasize unless exceptional circumstances determine otherwise.
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Speaker 3: Lord spare us. Now, just imagine a similar scenario in
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Speaker 3: just a couple of months. I imagine Adam Band and
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Speaker 3: the Greens telling us how, along with that other shade
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Speaker 3: of green, the Tears, they were going to save the
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Speaker 3: planet by keeping Anthony Albanesi in the lodge and cranking
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Speaker 3: up climate action. It would be a horror show. But
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Speaker 3: the trouble is, of course, that Labor is all about
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Speaker 3: this approach. Labor relies on the Greens most of its
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Speaker 3: members get elected with Green's preferences, and Labor is loath
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Speaker 3: to break that nexus, which is why the clear example
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Speaker 3: of the former Victorian State Labor MP Tony Lupton on
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Speaker 3: this program last night was such important news.
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Speaker 8: I think the worst possible outcome is having Green's members
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Speaker 8: of Parliament because it gives this fringe ideological group a
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Speaker 8: statue that they really don't deserve, and gives a platform
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Speaker 8: to the kinds of outlandish economic ideas, the outlandish social ideas,
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Speaker 8: and the kind of social division that we've seen that
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Speaker 8: they've been stoking since October seventh, and they've played a
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Speaker 8: very bad role in the terrible rise of anti Semitism
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Speaker 8: since then.
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Speaker 3: Lupton practices what he preaches, as you know. He ran
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Speaker 3: as an independent in his old seat of Proan at
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Speaker 3: the weekend by election in Melbourne and he preferenced the
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Speaker 3: Liberals over the Greens, effectively delivering that seat to the Liberals.
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Speaker 3: He's a Labor man, but against the Greens. He's against
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Speaker 3: the Greens because they are extremist. They are anti Israel,
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Speaker 3: anti borders, anti reliable energy, anti capitalism, anti US, anti
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Speaker 3: fair rules for girls and women in sports and change
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Speaker 3: rooms and they're pro drugs, pro woken, pro big government.
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Speaker 3: So Luptin says Labour should always put the Greens last,
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Speaker 3: and he says, rather than hurt Labor, this will strengthen
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Speaker 3: the party and lead to greater success.
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Speaker 8: I think the Labour part he needs to understand that
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Speaker 8: it's losing support across the length and breadth of Australia
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Speaker 8: because of its too close association with the Greens, and
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Speaker 8: it needs to be able to stand for itself and
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Speaker 8: be able to win back enough popular support to form
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Speaker 8: majority governments in its own right without depending on this
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Speaker 8: fringe group.
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Speaker 3: There are others in Labor who agree with that, but
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Speaker 3: many also say that politics is all about winning and
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Speaker 3: Labor should keep doing any deal that helps them win
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Speaker 3: individual seats. Well yeah, kinda, but winning in the long
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Speaker 3: term is about standing up for values and making sure
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Speaker 3: your party has product differentiation, and throwing you a lot
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Speaker 3: in with the Greens doesn't do either of those things.
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Speaker 3: The coalition should and will put the Greens last, but
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Speaker 3: that's a low cost decision for them. For Labor to
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Speaker 3: make the same brave stand will take a lot of
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Speaker 3: curry in the short term, but in the long term
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Speaker 3: it might stop their party being cannibalized by the socialist left.
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Speaker 3: I had a bit to say about the Israeli hostages
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Speaker 3: last night and the macabre and evil propaganda stunts put
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Speaker 3: on by Hummas as they release hostages that were kidnapped
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Speaker 3: amid the murder, rape and butchering that Hummas committed sixteen
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Speaker 3: months ago in southern Israel. The parading of the hostages,
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Speaker 3: the militaristic posturing by the same Hummus terrorists who have
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Speaker 3: all pretended to be civilians for the past year or so,
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Speaker 3: and the obviously despicable mistreatment of their victims has all
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Speaker 3: been odious. This cartoon by Peter Brooks in the Times
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Speaker 3: of London summed it up. We are seeing the results
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Speaker 3: of an underground concentration camp revealed before our very eyes.
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Speaker 3: And I reminded you about the fate of the bb
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Speaker 3: family yesterday. Mother Shiri, her tiny boys Ariel and Kafir
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Speaker 3: taken by Hamas at gunpoint during the October the seventh
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Speaker 3: atrocity and believed to have been killed. Today, let me
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Speaker 3: remind you about another hostage. His name is Alon. He
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Speaker 3: was kidnapped during that murderous rampage at the Nova Musical
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Speaker 3: Festival he's a musician himself. Here's some vision of him long.
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Speaker 9: Before this atrocity.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, just beautiful old turned twenty four yesterday while apparently
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Speaker 3: injured and in chains in a Hummus tunnel under Gaza.
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Speaker 3: Why has he not been freed? Why have all the
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Speaker 3: hostages not in freed? How can the world tolerate these
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Speaker 3: daily crimes against humanity by murderous Hummus terrorists who clearly
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Speaker 3: still run Gaza. Well I said last night that while
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Speaker 3: this goes on, the ceasefire surely can't hold. And here's
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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump said today.
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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages
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Speaker 7: aren't returned by Saturday at twelve o'clock, I think it's
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Speaker 7: an appropriate time. I would say, cancel it, and all
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Speaker 7: bets are off, and let hell break out, all of them,
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Speaker 7: not in drips and drabs, not two and one and
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Speaker 7: three and four and two. All hell is going to
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Speaker 7: break out.
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Speaker 5: And I don't think they're going to do it.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of them are dead. We don't
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Speaker 3: want all hell to break loose. What any sensible person
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Speaker 3: would want is exactly what we've wanted since October the eighth,
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, that is the release of all the
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Speaker 3: hostages and the surrendering of all the Hummus terrorists, then
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Speaker 3: there is a chance to discuss a peaceful future. How
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Speaker 3: can this be called a cease fire when Hummas continues
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Speaker 3: to hold and torture innocent people every single day. I
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Speaker 3: want to go to Format Labor MP Michael Danby now
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Speaker 3: joining me live from Melbourne. Good to talk to you, Michael.
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Speaker 3: I have to get your thoughts first on Israel and
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Speaker 3: what Donald Trump has said. Do you take this midday
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Speaker 3: Saturday deadline seriously?
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Speaker 10: Well, he's very unpredictable, Chris. If I was Hamas, I'd
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Speaker 10: be worried. He certainly mixed it all up as far
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Speaker 10: as Gars was concerned with his ideas about reconstruction and relocation,
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Speaker 10: by the way, which despite what the ABC says, was
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Speaker 10: not forced a relocation. It was up to the people
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Speaker 10: that live there, rather than living in the hell hole
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Speaker 10: that they live in.
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Speaker 3: The It was voluntary and temporary.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, precisely.
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Speaker 10: The reason I must cancel the ceasefire in the last
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Speaker 10: few hours, Chris, is because they're afraid of the.
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Speaker 5: Reaction of the rest of the world when they.
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Speaker 10: Send the rest of the hostages back in boxes, particularly coffins,
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Speaker 10: with those two little children and their mother in it.
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Speaker 10: That is going to cause such an outrage. It should
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Speaker 10: be focused on them. The International Red Cross and the
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Speaker 10: UN and UNRAN, all of these people should have dealt
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Speaker 10: with this beforehand. But this is the real reason why
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Speaker 10: they've repudiated the Seaside.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, tragic and terrible to watch it, and we'll keep
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Speaker 3: an eye on that and keep talking about it in
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Speaker 3: the days and weeks to come. Now, the reason I
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Speaker 3: wanted to talk to you, Michael, is about this call
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Speaker 3: for labor and from a labor man like Tony Lupton
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Speaker 3: to put the Greens laugh. Surely this must appeal to you.
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Speaker 3: And is it too late for labor to do that
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Speaker 3: even in this upcoming federal election.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's the ethical thing to do, Chris, because we've
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Speaker 10: been complaining and shouting about how bad the Greens are
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Speaker 10: and how extremists they are, including the Prime Minister and
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Speaker 10: the rest other leading ministers of the government.
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Speaker 5: How can you.
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Speaker 10: Vote for them after complaining about them so strongly. And
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Speaker 10: the other practical thing is I ask you this, and
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Speaker 10: you know how voters react. Most of the Green's voters
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Speaker 10: are center left people. They're good people who support coalas
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Speaker 10: and are opposed.
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Speaker 5: To air pollution.
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Speaker 10: They don't support the extreme aims of the current Green
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Speaker 10: political Party. If the Green Party, in response to Labor
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Speaker 10: directing preferences against them, directed their voters to vote against Labor,
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Speaker 10: they couldn't do it because my experiences, I was probably
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Speaker 10: the most hated by the Green political Party figure in
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Speaker 10: Labor and Australia, and Green voters overwhelmingly voted for me
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Speaker 10: because I was in favor of a free to bet
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Speaker 10: and I was against live sheep ex forwards and I
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Speaker 10: was a sort of reasonable center left person. They cannot
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Speaker 10: deliver the Greens against Labor, and Labor should call their bluff.
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Speaker 10: And Labor can't complain about the extremist stance of the
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Speaker 10: Green political Party and then continue to deliver them preferences.
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Speaker 10: Tony showed what can be done. The Greens, as he said,
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Speaker 10: have become an extremist party with all of their kaffirs
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Speaker 10: and all of their demos, and that putting the Jews
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Speaker 10: in the rubbish bin.
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Speaker 5: As Senefruki had that sign next to us or.
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Speaker 10: Their state MP Leong who said the Jews have enticals everywhere.
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Speaker 10: My god, that they're indistinguishable from a far right party.
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Speaker 5: They're very far from the German and Green civilized.
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Speaker 10: People that are in the German government, and people have
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Speaker 10: to do the right thing in Labor and people like
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Speaker 10: you and me and every person in.
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Speaker 5: The political center, center left or center.
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Speaker 10: Right should put pressure on our socialist left government to
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Speaker 10: do the right thing and put into practice what they've
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Speaker 10: been saying about the Greens.
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Speaker 5: It will do them good because the average Australian voter
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Speaker 5: is not in favor of all.
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Speaker 10: Of this disorder that they've been associated with.
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Speaker 5: Ferouki and Leong and all of these people.
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Speaker 10: They don't want some synagogues burnt down the average aussy.
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Speaker 10: They don't want childcare centers burnt down. And this is
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Speaker 10: the logical effect of the Green's policies. They are so extreme.
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Speaker 10: I don't think there's a more extreme Green party in
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Speaker 10: the world. They are more Marxist Leninist party these days.
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Speaker 3: Just quickly, Michael on that it's a very important point
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Speaker 3: you make that preference flows are only voluntary, they're only
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Speaker 3: a guide. And so if Labor said, don't preference the Greens,
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Speaker 3: and most people might stick with that. Even if the
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Speaker 3: Greens said don't preference labor. You're saying a lot of
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Speaker 3: Greens voters would still preference labor. I think that's an
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Speaker 3: important point. But isn't the real issue here beyond the
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Speaker 3: actual preferences people like Anthony Albanesi and Tanya Plibosek and
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Speaker 3: others thinking that after the election they'll need any Green
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Speaker 3: members in Parliament to maybe form a coalition in the
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Speaker 3: lower House and certainly to help them get legislation through
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Speaker 3: the Senate.
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Speaker 10: Well, things can be worse than they are now, You're right, Chris.
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Speaker 10: We could have the Greens and the deodorized version of
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Speaker 10: the Greens, the Teals who vote eighty percent of the time,
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Speaker 10: with the Green Party in a small minority in governments,
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Speaker 10: with them relying on two or three Teals or two
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Speaker 10: or three Greens.
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Speaker 5: I hope the three Greens in Brisbane will all.
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Speaker 10: Be defeated at the next election, and there are very
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Speaker 10: good signs that just come out of Paran and the
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Speaker 10: Queensland state elections, so let's hope for that. But yes,
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Speaker 10: that's probably a reason he says that he'll never rely
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Speaker 10: on them.
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Speaker 5: And there can be things worse elbow than.
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Speaker 10: Being in a government or not being in government having
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Speaker 10: to rely on Adam Bands, your legacy will be trashed completely.
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Speaker 5: It would be something so horrible.
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Speaker 10: Australia could have a worse government than it does now
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Speaker 10: and it could go further down.
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Speaker 5: The economic and environmental tubes.
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Speaker 10: If you think black out Bowen is bad, it can
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Speaker 10: get worse.
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Speaker 3: You can get worse worse than blackout bar and that's
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Speaker 3: something I think long term damage to the Labor Party too.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, Michael. I appreciate your time and
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Speaker 3: your frankness, Michael danby their former Labor Party front bencher.
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Speaker 3: Let's now go to Camber and catch up with the
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Speaker 3: Nationals leader David Little Proud. David, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 3: First up, you must have been fascinated by this phone
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Speaker 3: call of Anthony Alberanez. He's this morning, nothing in concrete yet,
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Speaker 3: no exemption for Australia on this order, but promising signs
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Speaker 3: and a good thing that he's got this phone call
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Speaker 3: under his belt.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, totally, and I thought it showed real leadership from
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Speaker 11: Peter Dutton to come out and to reinforce there's a
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Speaker 11: bipartisan position in our call for us to be carved
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Speaker 11: out and I think we've got the lived experience of
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Speaker 11: what we did in twenty eighteen and being able to
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Speaker 11: get that carve out. This is all about what's good
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Speaker 11: for Australia, and I think we have an even more
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Speaker 11: compelling case than what we did in twenty eighteen. The
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Speaker 11: last coalition government was able to sign the United States
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Speaker 11: and the UK up to UCAS, and we're doing the
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Speaker 11: heavy lifting in Aucust. We're prepared to cut checks to
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Speaker 11: make sure that we can defend our nation with the technology,
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Speaker 11: advanced technology and military hardware that the United States has
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Speaker 11: that keeps them safe. So I think it's important that
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Speaker 11: we have leadership, and I think that Peter Dutton showed
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Speaker 11: that by coming out very strongly today and making sure
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Speaker 11: he has strong connections in Washington and that that's reinforced
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Speaker 11: in Washington that this is a bipartisan support. We don't
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Speaker 11: necessarily agree with President Trump's to see, but he was
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Speaker 11: elected pretty well with the world knowing that this was coming,
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Speaker 11: and so we should should have been prepared and we
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Speaker 11: should be prepared to do whatever we can as a
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Speaker 11: nation to protect our industries here because we do have
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Speaker 11: that compelling story, not just with a trade deficit with
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Speaker 11: the United States, but our long history of standing shoulder's
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Speaker 11: shoulder with one another on the battlefield.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely. Let me give me on another issue, David
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Speaker 3: and I've talked a lot about it on this program
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Speaker 3: over the last week or so, and that is the
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Speaker 3: crumbling of Labour's green hydrogen dream. We've seen the massive
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Speaker 3: project in Gladstone scrap. We've had projects by wood Side
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Speaker 3: by Origin, by agl By four to eskew All scrapped,
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Speaker 3: and Labor had promised hundreds of million, in fact billions
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Speaker 3: of dollars of taxpayer subsidies. Yet they're still falling over.
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Speaker 3: And now it looks like the massive project in the
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Speaker 3: Iron Triangle of South Australia backed by the Malanowskis Labor
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Speaker 3: government as well, that looks like falling over. Surely this
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Speaker 3: whole green hydrogen thing now is exposed as a scam.
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Speaker 3: Well it is.
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Speaker 11: And when you've even got billionaires walking away from billions
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Speaker 11: like Twiggy Forested, you've got to actually ask the question
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Speaker 11: why does Chris Bowl and Anthony Alberan easy continue on
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Speaker 11: with this. The one thing that the gen cost report
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Speaker 11: did get right is that it is the most expensive
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Speaker 11: form of energy and it is pure madness that we
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Speaker 11: would go down this path, and we have wasted nearly
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Speaker 11: three years on this bubble of an idea from Bowen
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Speaker 11: that has taken us nowhere. It is time for the
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Speaker 11: adults to take over. It is time to lean in
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Speaker 11: and to fix the fundamentals. And you need to fix
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Speaker 11: the fundamentals so that we bring costs living down, not
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Speaker 11: just your energy bill, but your food bill, and that's
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Speaker 11: a lot of gas and gas quickly and in the
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Speaker 11: long term firming that up with nuclear energy. And we
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Speaker 11: are committed, Peter Dutton and I in making sure that
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Speaker 11: we start that process if we're given the mandate, and
21:57
Speaker 11: that all this other folly moves away, because we've got
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Speaker 11: to get back to basics to get this.
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Speaker 3: Country back on track.
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Speaker 11: You're not going to get your energy built down or
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Speaker 11: your food build down if we don't lean into energy quickly.
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Speaker 11: And that's about supply and proper supply, and that's how
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Speaker 11: gas can do it in the short term. But we
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Speaker 11: need to lean in and move on the promise that
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Speaker 11: Peter dunt I've made around nuclear energy spot on.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, David, I appreciate it. David Little Proud,
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Speaker 3: they're the Nationals leader Nuclear energy works. It's working all
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Speaker 3: around the world. Green hydrogen is a dream. It doesn't
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Speaker 3: work anywhere. Janet not janitor a Judith Sloan in the
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Speaker 3: Ods this morning I was reading. She summed it up brilliantly,
22:37
Speaker 3: as she often does. She says, why would you use
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Speaker 3: electricity to make hydrogen so you can burn the hydrogen
22:43
Speaker 3: to make electricity again, You're just losing energy and losing
22:48
Speaker 3: money along the way. Now coming up after the break,
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Speaker 3: going to check in on these councils. They're taking rate
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Speaker 3: payers for a ride everywhere. Council Watch will bring us
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Speaker 3: the latest. I want to keep on to these councils
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Speaker 3: that are gouging rate players with exorbitant rate increases. Last
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Speaker 3: night the North Sydney Council voted to raise rates by
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Speaker 3: eighty seven percent over two years. You heard right, eighty
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Speaker 3: seven percent. But this isn't restricted to the big cities.
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Speaker 3: In regional New South Wales Golden wants to raise rates
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Speaker 3: by fifty one percent and in Kempsey by forty two percent.
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Speaker 3: And as I mentioned the other day, in Melbourne, the
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Speaker 3: Frankston Council was caught out overcharging residents by ten million dollars.
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Speaker 3: Let's catch up with Dean Hurlston. He's the president of
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Speaker 3: Council Watch, a group that aims to keep councils honest.
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Speaker 3: What's behind this, Dean? These rate increases are just off
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Speaker 3: the charts, they.
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Speaker 5: Are, indeed, and thanks for having me.
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Speaker 12: The thing that we want to see our councils do
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Speaker 12: to echo mister little Proud who you just had on,
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Speaker 12: is we wanted to see doing the.
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Speaker 5: Basics brilliantly as their job.
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Speaker 12: The biggest challenge we have across the country, and indeed
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Speaker 12: in New South Wales in particular where we're seeing these
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Speaker 12: rises at the moment, is that we have these unconstrained
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Speaker 12: councils duplicating and triplicating functions that the state and federal
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Speaker 12: governments are actually paid to do. Councils are not funded
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Speaker 12: to be all things to everyone. What mister Honik needs
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Speaker 12: to do the Local Government Minister is first of all,
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Speaker 12: say I will not approve one more dollar in rates
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Speaker 12: until we define what the role of local government is
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Speaker 12: and we constrain and stop them from wasting money on
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Speaker 12: anything else where. We see northern beaches in Northern Sydney
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Speaker 12: actually now wanting to raise their rates by record levels
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Speaker 12: This is only because of their gross financial mismanagement. Let's
24:52
Speaker 12: be clear, around a thirty million dollar swimming pool blowing
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Speaker 12: out to over one hundred million dollars, causing the council
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Speaker 12: to essentially have no money, time to kick these councilors out,
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Speaker 12: time to actually rain in this spending.
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Speaker 3: Well, they've got massive bureaucracies. They're very highly paid, they're
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Speaker 3: not very productive. They get involved in everything from climate
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Speaker 3: change to international affairs, to literary prizes and all the
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Speaker 3: rest of it, instead of just looking after rates and
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Speaker 3: roads and trying to fast track people's development approvals. This
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Speaker 3: is the problem. They've got to be brought back to
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Speaker 3: the basics, and in the end, the responsibility there is
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Speaker 3: state governments who control them. They've got to bring them
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Speaker 3: back to the basics.
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Speaker 12: It's time for our state governments to mandate what councils
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Speaker 12: can do, but more importantly, what they cannot and should
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Speaker 12: not and will not do. What we keep seeing with
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Speaker 12: councils is this complaint that they can't raise enough revenue,
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Speaker 12: but their refusal to define what they do. No more junkets,
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Speaker 12: no more expensive management conference. Let's cut the salaries of
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Speaker 12: all stuff in senior executive roles by twenty percent. If
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Speaker 12: they're serious about actually fixing the problem they created it,
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Speaker 12: they can fix it. Otherwise, it's time for some redundancies
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Speaker 12: and some cuts to the middle management fat cats that
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Speaker 12: we already know are overpaid.
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Speaker 3: Well said Dean. Keep up the good work and we'll
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Speaker 3: keep in touch with you. Appreciate that insight, Dean Helston.
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Speaker 3: He's with Counsel Watch, he's the president of them. You've
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Speaker 3: got to keep on these councils. They are running a muck.
26:32
Speaker 3: Let's catch up with the Daily Telegraphs. Tim Blair our
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Speaker 3: life from the wimmer At region in Victoria, and Tim,
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Speaker 3: I loved your column and the Daily Telegraph talk about
26:41
Speaker 3: the hypocrisy of Labour's outrage about, you know, slapping an
26:44
Speaker 3: extra tariff on the steel industry. As you pointed out,
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Speaker 3: if it was a carbon tax, that'd be loving it.
26:50
Speaker 3: They're supposed to hate steel and all of that, all
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Speaker 3: that emission stuff.
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Speaker 13: Absolutely. I mean, the bottom line is that the price
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Speaker 13: of our exports increases. It doesn't really matter to the buyer. Yes,
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Speaker 13: what mechanism has used to do that, But you know
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Speaker 13: everyone's crying and screaming about now. Donald Trump, he might
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Speaker 13: know he's going to increase the price of our metals
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Speaker 13: and mineral exports. Well, everything we do in Australia increases
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Speaker 13: those prices. We've got crazy prices for power and energy development,
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Speaker 13: crazy fuel prices for transport everything. We're actually adding tariffs
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Speaker 13: before they even get to the US, and evil Trump
27:28
Speaker 13: gets his hands on our stuff, and no one complains
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Speaker 13: about it at all here, or at least they don't
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Speaker 13: complain often enough and loudly enough.
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Speaker 3: As you say, if Trump just renamed his tariff, when
27:37
Speaker 3: it comes to Australia, it's not a tariff, it's actually
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Speaker 3: a climate and saving the planet to tax, then labor
27:44
Speaker 3: and the Greens would have to approve it.
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Speaker 13: Well, this actually occurred a few years ago. I think
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Speaker 13: the EU at one point proposed a carbon a carbon
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Speaker 13: tax on stuff that was going to arrive from nations
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Speaker 13: that didn't have a carbon tax, like Australia, for example,
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Speaker 13: and it was was all welcomed by the likes of
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Speaker 13: people at the ABC and Fairfax and so on, because
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Speaker 13: it was a you know, that was a holy and
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Speaker 13: sacred tax, because it was in the name of the environment.
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Speaker 13: If you do it just for basic protection of an
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Speaker 13: industry reasons. Then it becomes evil. Although you know the numbers,
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Speaker 13: all that to the same.
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Speaker 3: In the end, I want to show you a bit
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Speaker 3: of Anthony Albernezi for miss press conference today. He's never
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Speaker 3: been a particularly forceful public speaker. I think he's becoming
28:26
Speaker 3: increasingly uncertain and tentative. He seems to mull over every
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Speaker 3: word because he's worried he's going to make a mistake.
28:32
Speaker 3: Let's have a look on tariffs.
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Speaker 4: We discussed Australia's position when it comes to tariffs, particularly
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Speaker 4: with regard to steel and our uminium.
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Speaker 3: Tim how convincing do you think he would have been
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Speaker 3: in the phone call? Not quite.
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Speaker 13: I do have my theories though this isn't This is
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Speaker 13: a fascinating exercise because in comparison, at least because Trump,
29:10
Speaker 13: Trump's off the cuff commentary was always thought of up
29:13
Speaker 13: until relatively recently, as a terrible liability. You know, you
29:16
Speaker 13: would say these outrageous things and people would become infuriated.
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Speaker 13: But it's now become very much a positive for him.
29:23
Speaker 13: He's seen as honest and direct and so on. So
29:26
Speaker 13: when Trump the other day or yesterday, I think, was
29:28
Speaker 13: talking about the shocking photographs to emerge from the Middle
29:32
Speaker 13: East of Israel, Israeli captives after they've been I guess
29:37
Speaker 13: the word released is closer. We're going to get to it.
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Speaker 13: Their shocking condition. It was entirely off the cuff, purely
29:43
Speaker 13: emotional and direct and believable and truthful. By comparison, you've
29:47
Speaker 13: got the very political, very staged, very cautious, as you
29:50
Speaker 13: point out, mannerisms of our prime it as to who
29:53
Speaker 13: nowadays is as you point out, again, he's very risk averse.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're absolutely right. Don Trump actually says what he
30:01
Speaker 3: really means, and that's therefore rolls off the tongue for him. Now,
30:05
Speaker 3: you and I have talked a lot about the lithium
30:08
Speaker 3: battery fires that are becoming a menace around the country.
30:11
Speaker 3: They have led to fatalities. There've been fourteen of these
30:15
Speaker 3: fires in just the last nine days in New South Wales.
30:19
Speaker 3: This one was in caring Bar overnight. I don't think
30:22
Speaker 3: people are aware enough tim of the dangers here, leaving
30:25
Speaker 3: them you know, in your front room over charging overnight.
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Speaker 13: Well, exactly when we began this chat, Chris about you
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Speaker 13: know what if Trump's tariffs were called a climate tax.
30:35
Speaker 13: You know, all the lefties would love it, will be
30:38
Speaker 13: applauding it. Well, if we renamed lithium ion as nuclear fuel,
30:43
Speaker 13: there'd be protests in the streets, my friend, every single day.
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Speaker 13: These things, you know, they are deadly. As you pointed out,
30:50
Speaker 13: there've been multiple incidents, more than a dozen in nine days,
30:53
Speaker 13: and I mean that's quite a lot more than the
30:56
Speaker 13: nuclear just be worldwide has had comparison. So, yeah, lithium
31:01
Speaker 13: ion versus nuclear, you change the name and people would
31:04
Speaker 13: hate it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, nuclear is safer than the scooter in your garage,
31:08
Speaker 3: is the point I suppose. Thanks for joining us, Tim
31:11
Speaker 3: will catch you later in the week. Tim Blair there
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Speaker 3: you can read his stuff in the Daily Telegraph. I
31:16
Speaker 3: just want to mention on that lithium battery firesh I'll
31:19
Speaker 3: be speaking to the fire commissioner tomorrow about that. It
31:23
Speaker 3: is a deadly serious issue right around the country. But
31:26
Speaker 3: for now we've got to take a break. And on
31:27
Speaker 3: the other side, we'll talk about Donald Trump showing no
31:30
Speaker 3: sign of stopping as he just churns out the executive orders.
31:33
Speaker 3: We'll have all that and more with Kristen Tate in
31:36
Speaker 3: the US. Since the very day he was inaugurated, President
31:44
Speaker 3: Donald Trump's rapid implementation of his agenda has been astounding,
31:48
Speaker 3: from domestic social issues to global affairs and the economy.
31:53
Speaker 3: His pre Sanretary Caroline Leavitt, has summed it up in
31:56
Speaker 3: a social media post that she called the Maga Minute.
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Speaker 1: Take a look on immigration.
32:02
Speaker 14: Illegal migrant encounters between the ports of entry are down
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Speaker 14: nearly eighty seven percent. On the economy, President Trump laid
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Speaker 14: out a plan to establish a sovereign wealth fund to
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Speaker 14: better invest the more than five trillion in assets held
32:17
Speaker 14: by the United States. He also proposed tariffs on imports
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Speaker 14: from Canada and Mexico and China, and those tariffs were swiftly.
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Speaker 15: Paused after our allies agreed to step up and address
32:28
Speaker 15: these issues. We are streamlining USAID into the State Department.
32:33
Speaker 15: President Trump signed a historic executive order to ban men
32:37
Speaker 15: in women's sports. Lastly, President Trump is already making our
32:41
Speaker 15: military strong again.
32:43
Speaker 16: We'll see you for next week's Maga Minute.
32:46
Speaker 3: Yeah that was just a week. We'll say what that
32:48
Speaker 3: come up with next week. As I discussed with US
32:51
Speaker 3: analyst Kristen, tight the media out of politicians, bureaucrats and
32:55
Speaker 3: world ladas struggling to keep up.
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Speaker 6: That's the whole sort of plan is to just flood
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Speaker 6: the system with all of these bold eos and just
33:06
Speaker 6: make it so that the liberal media can't even focus
33:08
Speaker 6: on one thing and start complaining and screaming about it,
33:11
Speaker 6: because before they're done, he's done five more things. I mean,
33:16
Speaker 6: every morning is Christmas Morning here, Chris. I just love
33:20
Speaker 6: waking up and opening the newspaper and seeing what Donald
33:24
Speaker 6: Trump has done. I mean, so many of the things
33:27
Speaker 6: that have gotten done in just three weeks.
33:29
Speaker 1: If a president had just done one of these things,
33:31
Speaker 1: it would be huge.
33:32
Speaker 6: I mean, banning men from women's sports, that's been a
33:36
Speaker 6: huge issue in this country. Our military recruitment is now
33:39
Speaker 6: at a fifteen year high because he's already starting to
33:42
Speaker 6: make the military strong again.
33:44
Speaker 1: On the border, I mean, down where I used to live.
33:48
Speaker 6: There's a sector called the Del Rio sector where under
33:51
Speaker 6: Biden we were seeing about four thousand migrants come through
33:55
Speaker 6: just that sector per day.
33:57
Speaker 1: Now that's down to about sixty per day. Just winning, winning, winning.
34:01
Speaker 6: So now we need to actually put a lot of
34:04
Speaker 6: these eos into law so that many of these mandates
34:07
Speaker 6: will last beyond the Trump administration.
34:09
Speaker 1: But man, I just love what I'm seeing so far.
34:13
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. One person who's had to hurry
34:15
Speaker 3: up to keep up with Donald Trump is our Prime
34:17
Speaker 3: Minister Anthony Alberizi. He hadn't speak spoken to Donald Trump
34:21
Speaker 3: since his inauguration. We knew tariff's could be an issue,
34:24
Speaker 3: and when Donald Trump announced tariff's on all imports into
34:28
Speaker 3: the US of steel and aluminum, that was something Australia
34:31
Speaker 3: had had carved out previously. We need it carved out again.
34:35
Speaker 3: And our Prime Minister was on the phone to the
34:38
Speaker 3: President this morning our time. Here's what he said.
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Speaker 4: Afterwards, I presented Australia's case for an exemption and we
34:47
Speaker 4: agreed on wording to say publicly, which is that the
34:53
Speaker 4: US President agreed that an exemption was under consideration.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's not the most character, is our Prime minister.
35:02
Speaker 3: But it sounded like a reasonably reasonably good outcome. It's
35:06
Speaker 3: suddenly got a lot better. Only really an hour or
35:09
Speaker 3: so later, when Donald Trump spoke to reporters from the
35:12
Speaker 3: Oval Office.
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Speaker 7: I just spoke to him, very fine man. And he
35:17
Speaker 7: has a surplus. I mean, we have a surplus with Australia.
35:22
Speaker 7: What are the few and the reason is they buy
35:24
Speaker 7: a lot of aeroplanes. They are rather far away and
35:27
Speaker 7: they need lots of aeroplanes, and we actually have a surplus.
35:30
Speaker 7: It's one of the only countries which we do. And
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Speaker 7: I told him that that's something that we will give
35:36
Speaker 7: great consideration to.
35:39
Speaker 3: He's a fine man's his Donald Trump. That's a hell
35:42
Speaker 3: of a lot nicer than anything our Prime minister ever
35:45
Speaker 3: said about Donald Trump in the past. But that sounds
35:47
Speaker 3: like a pretty good outcome on the cards for our country.
35:52
Speaker 6: Yes, I mean the relationship is clearly in good shape.
35:54
Speaker 6: And remember Australia had an exemption, an exemption from such
35:58
Speaker 6: tariffs during Trump's first term. But you know, the idea
36:02
Speaker 6: with these tariffs very generally is just to protect US
36:06
Speaker 6: manufacturers from unfair competition. It's also a national security threat,
36:10
Speaker 6: right like our national security was threatened by this global
36:14
Speaker 6: oversupply of steel, and Trump is trying to take actions
36:19
Speaker 6: to protect America's national security.
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Speaker 1: But it sounds like an exemption is going to happen.
36:24
Speaker 6: And you know, the United States does have a trade
36:27
Speaker 6: surplus with Australia.
36:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good news and a sensible move
36:32
Speaker 3: out of the White House. Yet again. Now on the
36:36
Speaker 3: program last night, I was lamenting the macabre displays we're
36:40
Speaker 3: seeing in the Middle East thanks to Hamas their treatment
36:43
Speaker 3: of hostages. They're drawing out of the ceasefire process. And
36:47
Speaker 3: I knowed then that surely this ceasefire can't last through
36:51
Speaker 3: this terrible procession. So it wasn't surprising, although it was
36:55
Speaker 3: encouraging to see Donald Trump say this today.
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Speaker 7: As far as I'm concerned, if all of the hostages
37:02
Speaker 7: aren't returned by Saturday at twelve o'clock, I think it's
37:06
Speaker 7: an appropriate time. I would say, cancel it, and all
37:11
Speaker 7: bets are off and let hell break out, all of them,
37:15
Speaker 7: not in drips and drabs, not two and one and
37:18
Speaker 7: three and four and two. All hell is going to
37:21
Speaker 7: break out.
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Speaker 3: And I don't think they're going to do it.
37:23
Speaker 5: I think a lot of them are dead.
37:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can all agree with the sentiment Christian, but
37:28
Speaker 3: it's very, very difficult, of course, because Hamas are deaf cult.
37:33
Speaker 3: They'd still have hostages, there are civilians involved. We want
37:37
Speaker 3: them to hand over everybody immediately. Let's hope that's what
37:40
Speaker 3: they do.
37:43
Speaker 6: Yes, this was straw another example of strong leadership by
37:46
Speaker 6: President Trump. I mean, basically, one of three things is
37:49
Speaker 6: going to happen here and all three case scenarios are
37:52
Speaker 6: better than what was the case under Biden. Scenario one
37:55
Speaker 6: is that the threat works and the hostages are released.
37:58
Speaker 6: Obviously that's what we want. Scenario two is they're released
38:01
Speaker 6: faster than they would have been. Maybe not by the deadline,
38:04
Speaker 6: but they're released faster. Option three is the hostages are
38:08
Speaker 6: not released, and then at least in that case scenario,
38:11
Speaker 6: it emboldens Israel to take stronger action, and clearly Trump
38:15
Speaker 6: is behind Israel and it gives them even more reason
38:18
Speaker 6: to do.
38:18
Speaker 1: So in the public eye. So this was the right
38:21
Speaker 1: thing to do by President Trump.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for joining us, Kristen. We'll watch that one
38:27
Speaker 3: in coming days and we'll catch up with you next
38:29
Speaker 3: week to see how much they can cram into that
38:31
Speaker 3: White House Minute when they put spice that on social
38:34
Speaker 3: media next week.
38:36
Speaker 1: Done's great, thank you, Chris.
38:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Mega Minute, we'll have to keep it on that.
38:41
Speaker 3: We're going to take a bracave catch up with the
38:43
Speaker 3: panel afterwards with Susi and Steve, and we'll get their reaction.
38:46
Speaker 3: So Albo is cool with Donald Trumpell. So well, these
38:48
Speaker 3: are the lightest company, and try and get this staff back.
38:51
Speaker 9: To the office.
38:57
Speaker 3: Let's catch up with that Tuesday panel Susio Brian from
38:59
Speaker 3: The Heralds in Melbourne and Radio two Double Sea Breakfast
39:02
Speaker 3: host in Canberra, Stephen Senna Tiempe. Good to see both
39:05
Speaker 3: of you again. Do you reckon? You go first, Susie,
39:08
Speaker 3: Do you reckon? Albo's had his first good day for
39:11
Speaker 3: a while.
39:13
Speaker 17: Oh well, if Trump thinks he's a very fine man, that's.
39:18
Speaker 16: That's about the best thing anyone said about him in
39:20
Speaker 16: the lead up to this particular election. Look, it's going
39:23
Speaker 16: to be absolutely fascinating. Albert's got to make sure there's
39:27
Speaker 16: no politics at all that he's played. He's got to
39:30
Speaker 16: do whatever it takes, pull out all the liberal big guns.
39:32
Speaker 17: I never thought i'd say this, Bring back Scott Morrison,
39:35
Speaker 17: if need be, Malcolm Turnbull. He really needs to.
39:40
Speaker 16: Get this exemption for Australia and it's going to be
39:43
Speaker 16: a really big test of this relationship with Trump in
39:48
Speaker 16: the years to come.
39:49
Speaker 3: Well, I reckon it's a late our basire. I reckon
39:51
Speaker 3: we'll get the exemption because Trump gave it last time.
39:54
Speaker 3: There's no way you won't give it to us. So
39:56
Speaker 3: I think Stephen, the only question is whether he keeps
39:59
Speaker 3: us on the end of the string, especially till after
40:03
Speaker 3: the election. Some of his Australian mates like Greg Norman
40:07
Speaker 3: or Anthony Pratt or Gina Reinhardt or Scott Morrison might
40:11
Speaker 3: just say, ah, go on, mate, you could always just
40:13
Speaker 3: let elbow stew and sort it out after the election. Yeah.
40:18
Speaker 18: Look, and I guess that's the big the big kicker
40:20
Speaker 18: for Albert. Look, I'll give credit where credits stue here.
40:22
Speaker 18: But having said that, as you say, I think it
40:25
Speaker 18: is a lay down be the Americans know how important
40:27
Speaker 18: we are as an ally and they're not going to
40:29
Speaker 18: do anything to ruin that. You know, Trump can be
40:32
Speaker 18: a little bit of radic, but I think he knows
40:34
Speaker 18: how important we are to him. But having said that,
40:36
Speaker 18: you know, in the lead up to an election, this
40:38
Speaker 18: was something where Albo had to pull out all the stops.
40:41
Speaker 18: And look, you got to give him credit too, because
40:43
Speaker 18: he's working well, one hand tied behind his back. He
40:45
Speaker 18: has got Kevin Rudd is his ambassador in the US,
40:48
Speaker 18: and he seems to be stuffing everything else up.
40:50
Speaker 3: So you know, it was mine.
40:52
Speaker 18: To nothing that he had to have a win here.
40:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, never mind, my ambassador come to me would have
40:56
Speaker 3: been the line I think the guy give him credit
41:00
Speaker 3: too for what seems like a positive outcome at the moment.
41:04
Speaker 3: I thought it was very savvy of him to mention
41:07
Speaker 3: Jordan my Lata because that'll be front of mine for
41:10
Speaker 3: Donald Trump and he would like that connection. So that
41:13
Speaker 3: was very county of Anthony albereneazy to use that. But
41:17
Speaker 3: I want to go back to that compliment that he
41:20
Speaker 3: got from Donald Trump, because I reckon, I reckon, this
41:23
Speaker 3: is a double edged sword. Have a look at this.
41:26
Speaker 7: I just spoke to him, very fine man. I just
41:29
Speaker 7: spoke to him, very fine man.
41:32
Speaker 3: So how's that going to work, Steve? And the next
41:34
Speaker 3: time Albo turns up in some labor booze up a
41:37
Speaker 3: Sussin street and all his labor mates say, you're Donald
41:41
Speaker 3: Trump's mate. He thinks you're a very fine man. I
41:43
Speaker 3: reckon that's the course of the devil in labor circles.
41:47
Speaker 18: I think he would just batter away and say, look,
41:49
Speaker 18: he was a little bit delirious because the Philadelphia Eagles
41:52
Speaker 18: beat Taylor Swift and he doesn't like Taylor Swift. So look,
41:55
Speaker 18: it's going to be problematic in labor circles. But I
41:57
Speaker 18: think you'll be fine you.
41:59
Speaker 3: Could see it counting him in there plenty of circles
42:01
Speaker 3: on the left, Hood and New Susie.
42:03
Speaker 16: Oh yeah, oh well, I'd prefer to be Anthony Albanezi,
42:07
Speaker 16: then Prince Harry or Megan Markle.
42:09
Speaker 17: Remember what he said about them.
42:12
Speaker 16: If he was like, oh, she's a terrible woman, I'm
42:15
Speaker 16: sure she would carry about that as a badge of honor.
42:20
Speaker 3: He's got enough troubles with his terrible wife. You can't
42:23
Speaker 3: call me old fashioned. That's the last way, the last
42:27
Speaker 3: thing you should ever say to someone that their wife
42:29
Speaker 3: is terrible. What are a horrible insult to her? And
42:32
Speaker 3: she's the American, she's the one who can actually vote
42:35
Speaker 3: for him, not that she would. Now, let's bring it
42:37
Speaker 3: back to Australia and the cost of living issues, as
42:40
Speaker 3: you have done in the Herald Sons, Susie. And as
42:43
Speaker 3: if things are bad enough for Victorians at the moment,
42:46
Speaker 3: it turns out you got the most expensive touch shops
42:49
Speaker 3: in the nation. Talk us through this one.
42:52
Speaker 16: Well, we're paying nearly eight dollars ninety nearly ten dollars
42:56
Speaker 16: per tuck shop meal. Although I don't believe anyone calls
43:00
Speaker 16: them touch shops anymore.
43:01
Speaker 17: It's all about online.
43:03
Speaker 16: Flexi Schools is this particular company, and they sell buttered
43:06
Speaker 16: chicken and they sell sushi. And I'm pretty sure it's
43:11
Speaker 16: a long way from the nineteen eighties when I went
43:13
Speaker 16: to school, when we were having a you know, the
43:16
Speaker 16: idea of a fancy tuck shop meal would be a
43:20
Speaker 16: double cut roll with twisties in the middle. But you know,
43:23
Speaker 16: it just goes to show there's a lot of pressure
43:26
Speaker 16: these days on parents to buy things at the touch
43:28
Speaker 16: shop all.
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Speaker 17: Most of it's done.
43:30
Speaker 16: Online these days, and you have to think that's a
43:33
Speaker 16: lot of money.
43:33
Speaker 17: Nearly ten bucks per meal.
43:35
Speaker 16: If you've got a few kids and do that a
43:37
Speaker 16: few days a week, that's a lot of money.
43:39
Speaker 17: That is nuts.
43:40
Speaker 3: No wonder, we're sending our kids to school with vegemite sandwiches,
43:43
Speaker 3: and that's as it should be. But Stephen, they've got
43:46
Speaker 3: to keep calling him tuch shops. I don't care how
43:48
Speaker 3: fancy they get with their sushi and whatever, it's got
43:51
Speaker 3: to be called a tuch shop.
43:53
Speaker 5: Yeah.
43:53
Speaker 18: And look, I support out too that the act apparently
43:56
Speaker 18: is equally is expensive. Victoria. What a surprise that the
43:59
Speaker 18: two stay or territories are the most broke. Are the
44:01
Speaker 18: ones that cost the most of the touch shot. But
44:03
Speaker 18: I have kids that I am missing out on an
44:05
Speaker 18: experience of writing their order on a paper bag, putting
44:08
Speaker 18: the cash inside, you know, getting the change stuck in
44:11
Speaker 18: the middle of your cream bun when you get it back.
44:13
Speaker 18: I mean, these were rights of passage for us. But
44:16
Speaker 18: what happened to the days of a pie, a five
44:18
Speaker 18: cent piece of fairy bread and a chocolate milk. I mean,
44:20
Speaker 18: you know what are we doing to our kids depriving
44:22
Speaker 18: them of this joy.
44:24
Speaker 3: For twenty cents? I used to be able to get
44:26
Speaker 3: a past your chocolate doughnut and an ice block. I
44:28
Speaker 3: kid you not. My kids just can't believe that. But
44:33
Speaker 3: then I'm rather old now. This Sam cursaga has been
44:37
Speaker 3: gone for so long, Susie, it just drives me nuts
44:40
Speaker 3: because the whole things are wasted time and she was
44:44
Speaker 3: drunk and abusive, So finer for that and move on.
44:47
Speaker 3: This whole racist nonsense is just a waste of the
44:52
Speaker 3: British judicial system and surely most of us are sick
44:55
Speaker 3: of hearing about it.
44:57
Speaker 16: Oh look, the only person that Sam Kerr doing anything
45:00
Speaker 16: bad to with herself and her reputation. I mean, she
45:04
Speaker 16: was sitting by herself on the phone in the police station,
45:07
Speaker 16: talking on the phone to this cop. She wasn't trying
45:10
Speaker 16: to she wasn't at him and physically, you know, abusing him.
45:14
Speaker 16: She wasn't inciting anyone else to rachel.
45:17
Speaker 17: Ly or physically abuse him.
45:18
Speaker 16: She was just drunk and sitting in a police station
45:20
Speaker 16: frustrated because people went listening to what she was saying
45:23
Speaker 16: about that particular taxi. Right, she's heard no one but herself,
45:27
Speaker 16: and let's hope that reason prevails and it just goes
45:31
Speaker 16: away when the jury comes back.
45:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steven, see, I get the point right. You know,
45:35
Speaker 3: if you call someone black, then that'll be racist and
45:38
Speaker 3: you'll be taken to court and a lot of the time,
45:42
Speaker 3: depending on the situation, maybe that's over egging it. But
45:47
Speaker 3: the way to fight that is not to conjure up
45:50
Speaker 3: the same offense when you're called white.
45:52
Speaker 1: It's just I.
45:53
Speaker 3: Understand that argument, but that's taking the whole problem in
45:56
Speaker 3: the wrong direction rather than heading off in a little
45:59
Speaker 3: bit more tall direction.
46:02
Speaker 18: Yeah, but bear in mind we are talking about the
46:03
Speaker 18: UK at the moment where you can actually be arrested
46:06
Speaker 18: for thought crimes these days. So I mean, clearly They've
46:08
Speaker 18: got plenty of police resources and plenty of time in
46:10
Speaker 18: the courts to deal with this stuff. But you know,
46:12
Speaker 18: there's a court case going on with the ABC here.
46:14
Speaker 18: I just can't believe that these things that are meaningless
46:17
Speaker 18: are going on for so long. And I agree with
46:19
Speaker 18: Susie that sam Kur has done enough dammage to her
46:21
Speaker 18: own reputation here.
46:22
Speaker 3: And I go back to what I.
46:23
Speaker 18: Said last time we talked about this, that you know,
46:25
Speaker 18: our athletes have got to behave themselves. But goodness me,
46:28
Speaker 18: I mean, you know, there are so many important things
46:30
Speaker 18: going on in the world, and we're focused on stuff
46:33
Speaker 18: that just doesn't matter.
46:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it was all churning up our dollars, the
46:37
Speaker 3: tax to that Antoinette, the toothcase, you know, courts and
46:41
Speaker 3: lawyers either side, and costing the ABC money. And look,
46:45
Speaker 3: she was hired largely because she's Lebanese Australian, but she
46:49
Speaker 3: says she was then fired because she was Lebanese Australian too.
46:53
Speaker 3: She was poorly mistreated. But again, the racial element there
46:56
Speaker 3: is just, in my view, is just confected and it's
47:00
Speaker 3: just horrible to see it all play out now. Bullies
47:03
Speaker 3: trying to get people back to the office, Susie, I mean,
47:06
Speaker 3: so they should. Do you think the people who stacked
47:09
Speaker 3: the shelves and the dwindling number of people who actually
47:12
Speaker 3: look after checkouts, they can't do that from home. Why
47:14
Speaker 3: can't the wolies people turn up at the office. They
47:16
Speaker 3: only won them there three days a week.
47:20
Speaker 17: Oh look, I couldn't agree more.
47:21
Speaker 16: I mean, what a sign of the times that you've
47:23
Speaker 16: got one of our biggest supermarket employers who most of
47:27
Speaker 16: the staff have no choice but to work in the
47:30
Speaker 16: office or in the supermarket.
47:31
Speaker 17: It's they're allowed to work from home. They're basically begging
47:34
Speaker 17: their office workers.
47:36
Speaker 16: To come, oh please please three days a week. That
47:38
Speaker 16: would suit us. They're on Monday when we had the
47:41
Speaker 16: Super Bowl. How funny was that all these people were
47:43
Speaker 16: bringing in the radio and saying, Oh, I can't wait
47:45
Speaker 16: to watch it. I'm working from home on That's what
47:50
Speaker 16: we're dealing with at the moment. They are just hanging
47:53
Speaker 16: out at home and getting paid for it. Get them
47:55
Speaker 16: back into the office, That's what I say.
47:57
Speaker 3: Is that right? I hadn't heard that. Of course, this
48:00
Speaker 3: is so logical. Soe, I swim at the beach every morning,
48:02
Speaker 3: and I can tell you there's crowds there on Mondays
48:05
Speaker 3: and Fridays of people working from home at the beach.
48:08
Speaker 3: But Stephen, this will be reflected in the TV ratings.
48:11
Speaker 3: No doubt that we probably had the highest Super Bowl
48:14
Speaker 3: TV ratings.
48:15
Speaker 18: Ever, more than likely. But I mean, can you believe
48:18
Speaker 18: we live in a world where it's controversial that people
48:20
Speaker 18: have actually got to turn up to work. But you
48:22
Speaker 18: know what I think they should do is the other
48:24
Speaker 18: two days a week, they should send them to the supermarkets.
48:26
Speaker 18: So there's actually somebody at a checkout when you go
48:28
Speaker 18: to buy your groceries. Because every time I go in,
48:31
Speaker 18: there's somebody standing around saying, would you like to go
48:33
Speaker 18: through the self serve checkout? My answer is what would
48:35
Speaker 18: I be standing in line up if I did get
48:38
Speaker 18: somebody back to the checkouts. If they're not going to
48:39
Speaker 18: go to the office, make them work in the supermarkets.
48:41
Speaker 3: So I get annoyed with the self serve check I'll
48:44
Speaker 3: do my own checkout as long as you're paying me
48:46
Speaker 3: twenty five bucks an hour, give me just care enough. Yes,
48:49
Speaker 3: thanks for joining us. We'll catch you next week. Steven
48:52
Speaker 3: and Cez, I appreciate it. I just want to share
48:54
Speaker 3: some of your feedback from my editorial last night. Talking
48:57
Speaker 3: about the way those evil monsters that hum Us have
48:59
Speaker 3: been using the hostages as propaganda tools, Simon says, where
49:04
Speaker 3: is the condemnation by the UN, Amnesty, International, Red Cross anyone?
49:09
Speaker 3: Great point? Ray says, there is no end to the
49:12
Speaker 3: depravity that is Hummus, and there isn't. We're seeing that
49:17
Speaker 3: every day. There's just not enough condemnation. Another viewer says,
49:20
Speaker 3: to the people of Israel, you have support from so
49:23
Speaker 3: many rational people. Don't let the delusional left wing politicians
49:28
Speaker 3: stop you. Absolutely most Australians are right behind them. So
49:31
Speaker 3: that's all the time we've got for you tonight. Don't
49:33
Speaker 3: forget Tomorrow. I'm going to speak to the Fire Commissioner
49:36
Speaker 3: about this growing problem of Lithian batteries. I've also got
49:39
Speaker 3: a very interesting angle on the anti Semitism forum that
49:44
Speaker 3: we're going to host here on Sky News time now. Though,
49:46
Speaker 3: for Peter Kudlin,