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I Love to Exploit Family Members for Laughs! · Armstrong & Getty One More Thing

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  Speaker 1: I like to exploit family members for laughs. It's one
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  Speaker 1: more thing I'm strong and getty, one more thing before
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  Speaker 1: we get to that. I was just going to throw
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  Speaker 1: this out. I just saw an ad for one of these,
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  Speaker 1: so it made me think of it. The Kindle Kindle
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  Speaker 1: paper White. I bought one of the latest Kindles. I
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  Speaker 1: had had one many many years ago, but I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: had the new modern one where it looks like paper.
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  Speaker 1: It's like paper that's backlit. I don't know how they
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  Speaker 1: did that, but I've been reading on my phone for
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  Speaker 1: years and years now. I do all my reading on
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  Speaker 1: my phone on download books. Reading on the phone, but
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  Speaker 1: the bright light. I didn't even realize how tiring it
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  Speaker 1: was until I went to the Kindle paper White. The
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  Speaker 1: Kindle paper White backlit, I can read like I used
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do with a book. Just keep
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  Speaker 1: reading and keep reading and keep reading without getting tired.
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  Speaker 1: It's way, way, way better way. So, if you're a
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  Speaker 1: person who reads on electronic advice device not advice, I'm
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  Speaker 1: giving you advice, I highly recommend the Kindle. It is
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  Speaker 1: it's much better the paper white.
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  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell whether you're saying that or paper weight
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  Speaker 2: with a British accent.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pipe.
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  Speaker 2: Why look at it Australia now. But all right, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a knook command myself. But I'll have to look into
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  Speaker 2: the advanced Okay, the nuke might be the same.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: It's more just glowey screeny. But I don't have the device.
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  Speaker 2: I just use the app on my iPad.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, the the Kindle paper white thing. It
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  Speaker 1: makes it look like paper. I don't know how they
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  Speaker 1: did that. It doesn't look like you're looking at a screen.
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  Speaker 1: It looks like you're looking at a page on a book.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just completely different on the eyes.
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  Speaker 4: But AnyWho, Yes, I can't believe you read on your phone,
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  Speaker 4: Like books on your phone's amazing.
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  Speaker 1: I've read hundreds of books on my phone.
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  Speaker 5: That's amazing to me. I could I don't. I have trouble.
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  Speaker 4: Like I'll find an article I'm interested in and I
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  Speaker 4: will email it to myself and pull up on my computer.
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  Speaker 4: Because for some reason on my phone, like notifications come
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  Speaker 4: up and I get distracted.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, too much scrolling, my thumbs get tired.
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  Speaker 1: I just like that. I always have it with me,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing I liked about it. I always have
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  Speaker 1: it with me, so if I'm in line for two minutes,
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  Speaker 1: I read for two minutes. Any who, can you set
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  Speaker 1: this up for us? Katie? What are we about to hear?
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  Speaker 4: There's this trend going around the internet where people have
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  Speaker 4: some form of a medical procedure done and as they're
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  Speaker 4: coming out of anesthesia, people film them and.
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  Speaker 1: In they in theory, the people closest to you, who
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  Speaker 1: care most about you, the first thing on their mind
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  Speaker 1: is how can I exploit this for clicks and laughs
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  Speaker 1: on the internet? Right?
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  Speaker 5: And these people just say the darnedest of things.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so these are people coming out of anesthesia.
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  Speaker 3: Are you rich? I'm a nurse, definitely not rich, Sugar Addie.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have a boyfriend?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't have.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody loves me.
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  Speaker 5: My wife she'll get upset if she sees you touching
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  Speaker 5: me like that on my chest.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone, I'm gonna go out.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna it.
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  Speaker 3: Look it's like a laser.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if he wanted to, you can just act.
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  Speaker 1: Don't film your loved ones coming out of anesthesia. But
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. I have never talked about this on the air,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know the actual story. I just have
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  Speaker 1: a feeling. It's like, uh so, the most under anesthesia
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  Speaker 1: I've ever been in my life is uh when they
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  Speaker 1: did one of the things when I had cancer and
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  Speaker 1: to go into me and do a bunch of awful
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  Speaker 1: things and they put me under and the whole day
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  Speaker 1: is a bit of a blur. But I think I
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  Speaker 1: said something I shouldn't have said to some woman. Oh
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  Speaker 1: just just based on the way she reacted the next
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  Speaker 1: time I saw her, and she even said something along
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  Speaker 1: the lines and I can't quite remember because this is
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  Speaker 1: ten years ago, something along the lines, Yeah, if we
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  Speaker 1: have to do that again, I'm gonna have someone else
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  Speaker 1: do it. Just kind of joke like like like she
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  Speaker 1: was joking like you, like she thought I remembered, but
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  Speaker 1: I didn't. And I just kind of smiled. And I've
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  Speaker 1: always thought, I wonder what I did or said.
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  Speaker 5: That's dumb on her part.
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  Speaker 4: If she she's in the medical field and she's gonna
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  Speaker 4: hold something you said under anesthesia against you, that's dumb.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right and sucky.
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  Speaker 1: That's a decent point right there. I mean, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be held responsible for that at all. I
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  Speaker 1: felt guilty about it for ten years. That makes me
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  Speaker 1: mad at her because just honest, just her body language.
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  Speaker 1: Because I had I'd been working with her for months
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  Speaker 1: on the medical stuff and seeing her a couple times
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  Speaker 1: a week and everything like that. Everything changed our relationship
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  Speaker 1: after that.
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  Speaker 5: She's in the wrong field.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know what I said to her.
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  Speaker 3: You've never confronted her about it.
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  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to know.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of if we should, Let's get her on right now.
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  Speaker 2: So strung you get it, whack it, follow up call,
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 3: I wonder.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it was just so prolonged and graphic.
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  Speaker 1: Or they had to restrain me. I have no idea.
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  Speaker 1: A little handsy, I took my pants off. I have
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  Speaker 1: no idea what happened. Wow.
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  Speaker 5: I still think that's really dumb.
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  Speaker 1: But that's a good point. I mean, yeah, you're you're
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  Speaker 1: so my id ran. While I can't help what my
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  Speaker 1: ID did.
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  Speaker 3: Right right, your super ego was still under.
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  Speaker 4: One of my favorite of the waking up from anesthesia
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  Speaker 4: videos is it's this woman and she's coming out of
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  Speaker 4: whatever she was going through and she looks over and
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  Speaker 4: her husband standing there, and she did not recognize him
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  Speaker 4: at all, and she goes, oh, you're really cute, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm married, and he was like, oh you are. That's
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  Speaker 4: and he played into it, and then at the end
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  Speaker 4: of it he goes, well I am your husband, and
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  Speaker 4: she starts happy cry.
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  Speaker 5: She's like, really, I.
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  Speaker 1: Grab that's so sweet. It is sweet. I'm glad it
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  Speaker 1: didn't go to the other direction.
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  Speaker 5: Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding.
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  Speaker 2: No, I would never marry, so I chose, you know,
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  Speaker 2: was I desperate?
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  Speaker 1: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: Thank God it didn't go that way.
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  Speaker 2: Kid. Yeah, So I found this interesting, speaking of being
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  Speaker 2: intoxicated or altered. It's in the Fabulous Free Press by
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  Speaker 2: a woman by the name of Katie Herzog. She's talking
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  Speaker 2: about the fact that she was a chronic drinker alcoholic
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  Speaker 2: for twenty years.
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  Speaker 1: We're talking ten to twelve drinks a day, every day,
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  Speaker 1: ten to twelve a day. Not a big gal either.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's getting after it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And she said, short of rehab, I tried all the
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  Speaker 2: usual treatments to get better, and a few less usual ones. Alcohol, anonymous,
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  Speaker 2: cognitive behavioral therapy, individual counseling, group counseling, yoga, cleanses, white
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  Speaker 2: knuckling it through cravings, and shakes. At one point I
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  Speaker 2: tried swapping out my drinking habit for a cannabis one,
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  Speaker 2: which no drug counselor would recommend, but was less dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: The worst thing that happened to me on weed was
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  Speaker 2: accidentally inhaling old bong water and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the things.
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  Speaker 2: Worked, at least for a little while, but even when
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't drinking, the obsession with drinking was still there.
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  Speaker 3: She says.
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  Speaker 2: I marked sober days on my calendar as though I
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  Speaker 2: were in prison, counting down each one until eventual relapse,
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  Speaker 2: which she says she was kind of secretly hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: And then man, she was in terrible, terrible shape after
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  Speaker 2: she'd relapsed, just crippling hangovers and like abdominal pain, probably
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  Speaker 2: from a liver. And and before I get to the
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  Speaker 2: uplifting and really interesting scientific part, here's like the sad,
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  Speaker 2: sad moment.
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  Speaker 3: She says.
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  Speaker 2: At some point I realized I was the last one
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  Speaker 2: at the party. There so long, the parley party slowly
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  Speaker 2: withered away, as my drinking buddies got careers or kids
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  Speaker 2: or cancer. I was alone with my bottle and miserable
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  Speaker 2: for it. So anyway, she mentions she had read about
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  Speaker 2: was she at that time?
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  Speaker 1: Do I have any idea?
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  Speaker 2: Oh god, yeah, a late thirties, maybe early forties. But
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  Speaker 2: then she talks about how AA came to be the
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  Speaker 2: standard treatment of alcohol use disorder in the US. But
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  Speaker 2: she read about another treatment that had been developed in Finland,
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  Speaker 2: the Sinclair method.
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of this?
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  Speaker 3: Curious because you know a lot about this stuff.
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  Speaker 2: All you do, she wrote, is take a dose of
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  Speaker 2: the opioid blocker now trek zone, wait an hour, then drink.
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  Speaker 2: This has been shown, she said, to reduce both cravings
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  Speaker 2: and consumption. Some people use this method to drink normally moderately.
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  Speaker 2: Others get entirely sober. Though it's long and so it's
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  Speaker 2: a way that you can drink. I that's interesting, yes,
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  Speaker 2: whether it's on your way to sobriety or just moderation
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. But the point of it is you get
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  Speaker 2: all the physical effects of alcohol slurred speech, drowsiness, last last,
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  Speaker 2: loss of coordination, hangover, et cetera, without the buzz.
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  Speaker 1: I take the FA out of it drug.
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  Speaker 2: Precisely, this drug cancels your ability to feel any sort
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  Speaker 2: of buzz.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: A lot, a lot of people are doing this on
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  Speaker 3: their own.
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  Speaker 2: You have to get a doctor who's who says, wow, okay,
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  Speaker 2: I get it, that makes sense, or is familiar with
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  Speaker 2: this treatment.
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  Speaker 3: But it's not like super well known or approved.
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  Speaker 2: There are a few private Facebook groups with thousands of
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  Speaker 2: members and and that sort of thing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I have two comments on that. When whatever works
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  Speaker 1: for you works for you, try whatever you again if
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  Speaker 1: it works good. Two comments on that though. One it
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  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of my I can't taste sweet.
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  Speaker 1: I lost my ability to taste sweet because of COVID
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  Speaker 1: and almost everybody's reactions. Oh I wish that would happen
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  Speaker 1: to me. I eat more sweets than I ever ate
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  Speaker 1: my life because I can't taste sweet. So I just
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  Speaker 1: think I wonder how that factors in the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you you're taking the drink, probably because you want the buzz,
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  Speaker 1: but you're not getting it. So I wonder what that
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  Speaker 1: does do you, if it makes you want other things
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't have any idea. And then I
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  Speaker 1: also know the problem with that because the what is
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  Speaker 1: that an abuse? They're the thing you can take that
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  Speaker 1: makes you throw up if you drink.
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  Speaker 5: Now, that's what I was just thinking of.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I've known people who tried that. The problem
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  Speaker 1: with it is, at some point you decide you want
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  Speaker 1: to drink. See, don't take it. So at some point
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  Speaker 1: these people maybe they would. You think I want the buzz,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm not going to take that thing that keeps
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  Speaker 1: me from not getting the.
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  Speaker 2: Buzz now, right, She just what she says, is it
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  Speaker 2: in a way that nothing else did just ended the
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  Speaker 2: craving for now? That's interesting, like for years, And she's
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  Speaker 2: been sober for a long time now and hangs around
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  Speaker 2: people who are drinking and it's fine, and she just
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  Speaker 2: has no desire to drink. And again, I don't I'm
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  Speaker 2: not claiming that this is a universal cure.
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  Speaker 1: All I saw the cover of a book somewhere. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: drink your way sober. Yes, the brain is so freaking complicated.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I always say on this topic. I'm
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  Speaker 1: stunned with all the addicts we've got laying around on
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  Speaker 1: the street that we haven't gotten further down the road
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  Speaker 1: of figuring this out. Now, I'll tell you what doesn't work. Rehabs.
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  Speaker 1: They are they're like practically useless. But it's everybody's first
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  Speaker 1: choice to throw money at best PR.
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  Speaker 3: Two results ratio in the history of mankind might be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, this lady's thing works.
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  Speaker 4: I have a question about that antibius stuff, Jack. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know how much you know about it, But is
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  Speaker 4: it something that you take on like a daily basis
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  Speaker 4: and build up a tolerance with it or do you
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  Speaker 4: just take it prior to drink? Because I had a
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  Speaker 4: friend that tried this and she would just take it
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  Speaker 4: prior to thinking she might drink.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's just prior to I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember. I knew somebody that tried it, and
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  Speaker 1: their thing was sometimes they drank because they wanted to
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  Speaker 1: drink so bad, and then they violently threw up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then other times I think I want to drink today,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not going to take my awn abuse pill today, right.
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  Speaker 2: I remember years and years ago you were talking about
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  Speaker 2: this this sort of topic. In Correct me or edit
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  Speaker 2: me if I'm off. But it's said in the recovery
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  Speaker 2: community that you're trying to fix your brain with your brain. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and that's a very challenging.
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  Speaker 1: Thing to obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the point of this, semi obviously is that
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  Speaker 2: the positive feedback slowly just goes away because you don't
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  Speaker 2: get it. You got to be motivated enough to do
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  Speaker 2: it over longer and long enough period that your brain saying.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, this will be great, this will be great, this
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  Speaker 3: will be great. It just goes away.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what reminded me of the sweets thing, though
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  Speaker 1: I was I've been hoping that would happen with the sweets.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it treats whatever you get out of drugs and
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  Speaker 1: alcohol escape differently than sweet, But I kept thinking, doesn't
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  Speaker 1: my brain at some point realize you don't get any
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  Speaker 1: benefit from the donut so craving sweets.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if it has something to do with the
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  Speaker 2: discovery that like diet, soda and artificial sweeteners don't do
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  Speaker 2: you any good really, because your body still has an
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  Speaker 2: innate lust desire need for something sweet, which is probably
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  Speaker 2: four hundred thousand years old, having to do with needing
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  Speaker 2: to get a certain amount of fruit or whatever, probably,
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  Speaker 2: And so your animal brain is craving that in a
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  Speaker 2: way it doesn't crave forgetting about my problems for an
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  Speaker 2: hour while I watch music videos on YouTube describing a
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  Speaker 2: friend's evening, not mine.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I craved vegetables the way I crave sweets.
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  Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be awesome. I've never craved a vegetable in
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  Speaker 1: my life, but a constantly.
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  Speaker 5: Sure go for some broccoli right about.
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  Speaker 1: Constantly crave sweets. And I can't satisfy the at least
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  Speaker 1: the taste of it because I can't taste it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, the book once again is called Drink Yourself Sober,
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  Speaker 2: which is obviously kind of a clever and counterintuitive title
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  Speaker 2: to grab your attention.
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  Speaker 1: I hope it works. That would be great for everyone
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  Speaker 1: if it works. There is a famous story of a
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  Speaker 1: woman who wrote a book about moderation or something that
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  Speaker 1: got pretty famous for a while, and she ended up
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  Speaker 1: dying in a drunk driving crash when she drank again. Soe,
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  Speaker 1: So I hope it works.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, and even if it works for I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, twenty percent of people, ten percent, that's better
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  Speaker 2: than none.
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  Speaker 1: It'd be much higher than rehabs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I guess that's it.