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Week 16 Buy Low & Sell High Trade Targets + Cale Makar window? + Logan Thompson #1 Goalie? | Fantasy Hockey Podcast · Banger Management - Fantasy Hockey Podcast

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So yeah, in English. Welcome in everybody to Bangor
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Management, the Fantasy Hockey podcast with Jake, Josh and
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Kevin. Today is our week 16 Buy low,
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sell high trade targets episode. And yes, if you want to stay
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podcast radius five stars. Um, yeah, let's dive into it,
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Josh. Alright, my Bilo for this week
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is the best defenseman in the NHL, Kayla Mccarr.
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You spelled Lynn Hudson wrong. Also known as We have Lean
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Hudson at home. That's funny.
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Yeah, so a discount Lane Hudson. His season average is 1.08
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points per game .44 power play points, three shots and 1.7
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blocks, which is obviously elite.
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Elite, especially as a defenseman.
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This is what you expect when you draft Kyle Macar, usually in the
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first round, but in the past month he only has .58 points per
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game and .17 power play points. That's brutal.
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That's like you. That's a guy you don't even want
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to have on your team, you know? So this is kind of unheard of
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for my car. It was always just been amazing.
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A massive part of this underwhelming points total is
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the lack of power play production for the ABS as a
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whole. They should be a top five power
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play team in the league. Like they're in the same realm
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as like the Oilers. You know any power play that has
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my car? MacKinnon and Rantanen should be
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killing it, but they're currently at 19th in the league.
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They've been shuffling around the two free spots on the 1st
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power play unit due to all their injuries this year, but the only
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time that the power play really seems to click is when the
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Chicken is healthy. Having him as a big net front
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guy who is good at retrieving pucks seems to be the one
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archetype that they can't find a replacement for in their roster
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when he's gone. He suffered a setback this week,
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but he should be back in the next few weeks.
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I'm hoping as an intrusion owner and with him back, I'd expect
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the power play to start clicking as well as more even strength
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points. So Makar should get back to his
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regular crazy production soon. So while Nichushkin is out, this
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might be your only chance at a buy low on a guy who normally
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you would never be able to buy low on.
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You'll have to pay a lot to get him, but usually owners would
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never even consider trading him or as some owners might be a
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little frustrated right now. So some targets that I would say
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could entice the owner. I don't think you're going to be
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able to get anyone for ones defenseman wise from a car, but
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in a package I think you're going to use Zach Werenski,
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Rasmus Dahlin or Shade Theodore. They've all been over a point
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per game in the last month. They're all pretty big names on
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of their on their own right, the biggest one being Dolly and the
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smallest being Theodore. But I think any of these guys in
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a package could get my car and I think it would definitely pay
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off. Yeah, I mean, listen, you're
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buying the number one fantasy defenseman like in hockey,
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right? So already that's you're aiming
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for the top of the top. I really like everything you
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said. The only thing I will say
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though, is that from what I've been seeing from analysts and
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whatnot, that Colorado's power play has been really middle of
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the pack this season. Like I think the ranked 16th in
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the league, which is, yeah, there you go, even worse, right?
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So, but their metrics kind of show that that's where they
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belong. And I don't know if it's because
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they've kind of had a roller coaster of a carousel, if you
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will, of players coming in and out of that one.
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But in general, you expect this power play to be top five.
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And we know that that's their ceiling.
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So whether it's a personnel issue or strategy or whatnot,
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you have to make on them figuring it out.
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And I think that's really a safe bet to buy my car on the low.
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And before that bounce back happens, the names, the names
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you mentioned are really, really like, I think Zach Wronski and
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Rasmus Dahlin are like 3 of the OR two of the top 4 defensemen,
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Macar being the 3rd. So you're really like, no, but
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of his own. So it's like a tear jump.
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If you will share if you if you can make that happen for my car,
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that would be insane because that's the biggest your jump you
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can make right, But he's. The reason I mentioned him is
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he's been. Insanely yeah like what is it,
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1.5 points per game for the last month?
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Like that's. Something else I mean it helps
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that he just had like a forest game but.
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Yeah, but still, if you can use that to sell him and get my
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card, that would be nuts. Obviously, like you said, 2 for
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ones probably are going to have to happen to make this happen.
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But yeah, I'd be all over that. I'd probably add Quinn Hughes of
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someone as like a one for one target even though Vancouver has
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been a bit. Of a mess.
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I mean you treat every defenseman from a car right?
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So much so that makes sense, but has been heard and not as good
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as recently. Yeah, so obviously this is an
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amazing thing. And the other reason I think
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that the Kale Macar owner will likely want to sell is because
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this person in all likelihood drafted Macar in the first
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round. And because of that, their team
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is likely suffering, so they're probably desperate to make a
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trade. So this is just an overall great
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choice. Targets are fantastic as well.
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But yeah, I mean, don't look at the past month production and
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get discouraged by any means. This is the best defenseman.
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He's probably, you know, like there's only, there's very few
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forwards who I'm convinced are going to get more points than
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him on the season. Getting that from a defensive
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position is unparalleled. So yeah, it's a great time to
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try to go for that by Low. Alright, I think my it's time
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for my bylaw. Um, I mean, listen, we're
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hitting all the positions today, which is great.
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The below is none other than Stanley Cup winning goaltender
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Sergei Bobrovsky of the Florida Panthers.
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In his last four starts, three of them he's averaged a point
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778862.773 before he just had a bounce back game against
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Anaheim. So I think you got to really act
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quick if you want to hop on this by low.
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But I mean, I think the manager of Circular Brodsky, the
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Panthers have been really mediocre for the last, I would
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say two months maybe like a lot of their star players are not
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producing close to half a point per game, which is wild.
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So All in all is just the Panthers have been not as good
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recently. Bobrovsky has left a sour taste
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in a lot of managers. Mouse, I think I think if you
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can flip them for a lot of these guys that are playing above
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expected or on more hot teams right now, I would try to do
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that absolutely, because I see Bob as a top ten, top 15 goalie
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rest of season. And so if you can use a top 15,
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top 20 type of goalie so season and flip him for Bob, I would
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jump on that. Like I'm thinking of swimming.
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I'm thinking of Bennington Wolf, Aiden Hill, Joey the Cord.
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These are all guys that I that I would trade for Bobrovsky rest
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of the season. Yeah, this is this is a great
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choice. Bob, unfortunately in his career
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has been a bit inconsistent, so these blips do happen.
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But the Panthers are a great team and he's definitely the guy
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over Spencer Knight, even though it's been pretty decent.
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But there's no chance that he's gonna take the net.
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From. But no, no, absolutely.
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Not and also your targets are really good.
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I don't know. It's hard and the one for one is
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obviously difficult, but like I said, Bob has been atrocious
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these last two weeks specifically, so that's why it's
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the windows cracked open as well as it's going to get.
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Yeah, exactly. It's well said.
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Yeah, I I think this is a great buy low.
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Like like you said, he's been really, really bad lately.
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And that whole Florida team, like I saw a stat today showing
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their like top five forwards and they have like each have like
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one goal in the last month. It's crazy.
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They're all averaging less than .5 points per game over the
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last. Month it's truly honestly this
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is like a team wide Bylo, but we'll focus on Bob for now.
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So I think definitely a good buy low for us.
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Obviously gonna end up as a top three team in the Atlantic,
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probably top two team in the Atlantic.
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So I don't have any doubt about that and about them bouncing
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back. You don't, you know, the Stanley
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Cup like reigning champs, they didn't really change the line up
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that much and they were started off the season super hot.
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So it's just a a tough stretch right now in terms of your
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targets. I don't think there's any chance
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someone's taking Bennington for for Bob.
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I actually I sent to that offer and got rejected immediately.
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I sent like Bennington plus like a little something for for Bob
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and it got rejected. I think Wolf is a stretch too,
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but he's been pretty. Good.
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He's been like a waiver guy, but he's kind of cementing himself
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as the main guy there in Calgary right now and he's playing well.
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Yeah, Yeah. Like, I mean, obviously I like
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all, I like that as like if you can get it, it's great.
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I just think it's a stretch to chord's been solid, So maybe you
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can do that, but I think that also would be hard.
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And then the two big ones here in your targets are hill and
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swimming. And I think I would prefer Bob
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to both of them. And I think both of those could
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probably get done one for one. Yeah.
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The only thing that dimension with Bob is that, I mean,
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Florida is known to not have necessarily the best playoff
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schedule, but I don't think that's as impactful when you're
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talking about goalies, right? Because they're already not
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getting like necessarily every single game, specifically Bob,
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we know that is getting like maybe 2/3 of the games already.
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I think when you're looking at playoff schedules for goalies
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versus players, you're looking at very different things.
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For players, you're really just looking at number of games
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played. That's the bottom line.
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Whoever plays the most games just has the most chances at
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getting stacks. So that's really what you're
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looking for. With goalies, it's more the
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quality of opponent you're playing because you'd much
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rather have like a 2 game week playing against like San Jose
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versus like a three or four-game week playing against like
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Winnipeg, Minnesota, Dallas, teams like that.
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So I think Florida is a bad schedule, playoff schedule for
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forwards because they're I think a 3-4 and two, but two games in
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there and in the finals is brutal.
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But in terms of goalies, I think they have some OK opponents.
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So it's definitely not as bad as it seems on paper.
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Yeah. Like I wouldn't.
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I just know that a lot of people are staying away from buying
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Panthers assets as a whole because of the schedule.
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But I'm just saying that that would not deter me from trying
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to browse key. Yeah, for sure.
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Absolutely. OK, I'm gonna introduce my bi lo
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with a little bit of trivia. How many pull ups was this
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player able to do at the NHL Combine?
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3. Josh.
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Is this like when they do those like real, real pull ups?
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And so it's like a really small number.
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No, I have no idea. I just guessed 3 because I
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always guessed 3. I feel like there's a really
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small number for a professional. Athlete.
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It is absolutely some sort of crazy.
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It was 0. Imagine it's 0.
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I'm gonna go with 11. According to reports, when Sam
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Bennett took the NHL Scouting Combine physical test, he was
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unable to do a single. Pull up.
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Meaning he completed zero. I was.
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That's traditional combine, which is wild.
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Yeah, yeah. But Needless to say, he's
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improved since. How many can he do now?
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Pull ups are hard. Yeah, yeah.
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I know I don't want, I don't wanna knock him too hard.
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No, no, no. You can do it.
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We're not. You could do a pull.
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Up, yeah. Yeah, I could do a few pull-ups,
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like, yeah, whatever. But like we're.
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Not like 3. Pull pull up, connoisseurs.
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Or pull. Up here, but zero when you're
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like. But could you do 3 pull-ups
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under the pressure of the NHL Combine?
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I feel like I'd be better under pressure.
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Yeah. Whoa, is that like?
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Home and no ones watching then I could just pretend I did them,
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you know? But if I'm at the really do
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them. Yeah, and he was like a top
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prospect as well. So yeah, you.
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Know it's pretty crazy that he wasn't able to, but since then
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he's gonna sound like cup, so clearly he's redeemed himself.
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Yeah, seems a lot. Cooler fire, sorry.
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So he's a lot cooler than us, even though we can do some
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pull-ups. He doesn't have a fantasy hockey
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podcast, so I wouldn't say that he's cooler.
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Than us, but anyway. Yes.
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So Sam Bennett of the Florida Panthers, as Josh mentioned, the
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whole team is pretty much a bylaw right now.
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Bennett was on fire at the beginning of the season when
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Barkov was out, and at that time I expected this points to
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regress, but not to this extreme level of only one goal and one
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assist over the last month. Which is crazy.
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Wild he's not. The it's almost as few points as
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pull-ups. That's hilarious.
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Yeah, literally. Really.
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Yeah. So he's not like the offensive
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guy on the Panthers. You know, he's not Reinhart,
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he's not Barkov, whatever, but he's not to chalk.
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But he's extremely elite at the peripheral categories and it
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shows on goal are still strong even throughout this massive
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goal scoring slump. Last year was around 12%
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shooting percentage on the year, and this year he's had 10%.
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But over the last month he's at 2%, which is extremely low.
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And the points took like, you know, these goals are like
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they're, they're, they're gonna regress substantially.
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Like he's gonna start getting more goals because he's been
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shooting so well. He's also a Pimm's monster.
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So the way I see it is that even if he gets .6 points per game
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rest of the season, and I think he could get between .6 and .7,
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then he's a top guy that I really want to have on my team.
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Essentially his points of like tremendously, but with this
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inevitable positive regression in that category, plus being a
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lead at everything else, he's a top, top guy for bangers league
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that I would love to have rest of season.
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So some guys that I would want to period 4 Bennett would be
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Brian Rust, Nazem Kadri, Jordan Cairo and three letter PLD.
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This is OK. So I completely agree with Sam
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Benna being a bi Lo. I think obviously when a guy is
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putting up two points in a whole month, it's it's really, really,
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really bad. And all the shooting percentages
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stats that you mentioned? My unborn son could do that.
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Yeah, and you will probably do a pull up too.
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I mean, yeah, the bar is low, pun intended, but yeah, there
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you go. I could do one too.
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One guy. I think of them, I just don't
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say them, but I I think. Tina Pangolin and not fun guy.
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It's the filter. Exactly.
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I have highbrow humor. OK, Jakey, it's fine.
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I was impressed. I think you should do more.
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Of them, I never text today, but I was gonna say we mentioned it
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with Broski too, like all of Florida right now.
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It's kind of not good, right? So all their guys are kind of by
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laws and being one of the most clear ones just because of how
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low his points are. I like your targets, some of
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them. It's just like crazy to me when
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you're when you're picturing. I think most leagues don't have
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him. So I'm taking that out of the
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equation. But I mean, Ben is known for
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being one of the banger studs, right?
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Especially from pure position. I'd trade buying restroom.
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I traded PLD for him easy. I think Kaja and Carrie was
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definitely tougher, right, because these guys are like
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elite shot takers and points getters to.
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So that's that's a close line for me.
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I'd probably I don't think you need to send guys of that
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caliber to get better. I think you can send much, much
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weaker guys. Yeah, I, I fully agree with both
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of you guys. So first of all, I actually, I
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had mentioned Sam Bennett as my hold either last week or two
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weeks ago in the in our ad hold drop episode because I fully
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agree with everything you're saying.
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These points totals are not going to stay this low and you
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don't need him to be that crazy points guy with how much he
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contributes to other categories. So everything you said, Jake,
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fully agree. In terms of the targets, I agree
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with the Brian Ruston PLD, both of those, I would take Bennett
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over them. And I also agree with Kevin with
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the country and Kairu, where I think I would rather have Kadri
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and Kairu. And I don't think you need to
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send guys that good to get Benny right now.
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He's so he's at such a low that sending anyone of value right
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now probably gets you him, you know?
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And I think what if you sent like, I think you could like an
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Anders Lee, I think that would be a good call.
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Maybe maybe you can send somebody even lesser than that.
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Yeah, maybe so. Thomas Hurdle.
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I sent a trade earlier in our league.
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They got rejected. Basically, I was giving Eric
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Carlson, Freddie Anderson, Nazem Kadri, OK, receiving Joey
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Decord, more outsider Sam Bennett.
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I mean, I don't think, I don't think.
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I think the problem there is cider.
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But I think that's a very fair trade.
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Yeah, absolutely. I actually I think he just want
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to give away. Cider is more likely than not
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giving away. For sure.
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But I mean, the fact is that if the guys that Jake, he's giving
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up, like Kadri is doing so much better, is so much better than
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Bennett, that like that makes up for and I view Anderson higher
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than the cord. So I think that makes up for the
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Carlson decider and that's a great offer and I think it could
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have easily gotten accepted in a leak that actually trades.
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Really is tough for trades. It's it's honestly unfortunate
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because we're all, I think the three of us are the ones that
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love trading the most in all of fantasy.
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Anybody that plays fantasy, nobody loves trading more than
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us. Yeah.
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And yet we're in the worst trading league.
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So it's tough. It's crazy.
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Yeah, it's. Also wild cuz we're always like
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cycling through a couple of teams every year but it just
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never improves the trading morale.
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Yeah. But I see what you guys are
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saying, but not having to give that much, I mean, I guess we we
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believe that trading should happen in packages.
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So this is sort of like who I would pair for them.
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But yeah, I see where you're coming from that you could
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probably benefit for even lower. And you never, you want to give
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the lowest you can to buy a good player.
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And I think Bennett's a good target right now.
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Yeah. So yeah, let's move on to your
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cell. Hi, Josh.
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Alright my cell hi, I will caveat this by saying that I'm
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actively trying to buy him but but I still think he's a crazy
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sell high is Dylan Holloway. So this is a bit of a lower
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stakes guy compared to our usual recommendations.
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I feel like we're usually going for 8090% owned guys but just
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with how he's been doing lately. I just have to mention him as a
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cell high because I looked at his last month stats and it's
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just absurd. So in the past month he's at
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1.31 points per game .31 power play points, 2.7 shots and 2.3
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hits. This is first round pick in a
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bangers league. Stats like this is like if JT
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Miller was doing this you'd be like so happy with him.
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You know these are actually crazy stats for and he was most
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likely a free agent pickup for most people.
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His backups have always been solid so that I don't expect to
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go down especially and the improvement in deployment since
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the coaching change explains the jump in points.
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But there's just no way he's maintaining this level for the
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rest of the season. I would expect him to finish
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around point 7.8 points per game with those same back cats which
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is still really good, but if you could get a point per game
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player in return for him while he's hot then you should
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definitely try. So some targets I'm looking at
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are Brad Marshawn, Nasim Kadri, Zach Hyman, Brock Besser, Drake
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Batherson. Yeah.
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I I like a lot of those targets. Yep, JQ, we took the words out
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of our. Matches.
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Thanks, Josh. I just wanted to be included.
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Yeah, yeah. I I have another one.
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What do you think, Sam Bennett or Dylan Holloway?
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I'm taking Holloway yeah OK and and and I really like Bennett,
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but I think the fact that Holloway's bad cats are just so
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sick then true you know you're not really getting gaining much
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from Bennett's back at. Yeah, I find myself also wanting
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to buy some of our sell highs, you know what I mean?
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And then I have to try to fight back.
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With that just means they're good.
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Sell high. They're great selfies.
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I think they're really good targets that you put into.
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I look all of them and Dylan Holloway is just simply a really
20:17
good sell high. It just goes to show right
20:20
player to the right team. He was pretty much nothing on
20:22
Edmonton. Now he's one of the best players
20:24
on the Blues. So coming into next year, even
20:28
if he's out .7 to .8, we're thinking of this guy as like a
20:30
top five round pick in bangers leagues, which is sick.
20:33
Like, you know, and I think that that could get there, which,
20:35
yeah, but it's a good sell high for now.
20:37
And I'd rather the guys you mentioned, they're just more
20:39
reliable. Yep, I think Holloway is really
20:42
fun because he's quickly getting into that conversation of pickup
20:45
of the year, right? Ever since the coaching change,
20:47
he's been insane. And he's hitting all the
20:50
categories too. Like he's shooting and hitting
20:52
at such a high level, like being able to pick up a guy that
20:55
becomes a double double on your team that's also extremely good
20:58
on the power play endpoints is a blessing.
21:00
Like that does not happen. So I can really see like the
21:03
manager not wanting, if you own Holloway, I can see you not
21:06
wanting to sell him, but also it's such a good opportunity to
21:09
really tear up. And I think all the names that
21:11
Josh mentioned are really good targets.
21:13
My favorites would be getting Hymen and I think Hyman and
21:19
quadruple my favorites out of this, even though that's a
21:22
different position there. But I would take any of these
21:24
guys. I think my least favorite is
21:26
Besser out of all of them. Yeah, I agree.
21:30
Yep. All right, time for my cell
21:33
high. My cell high is a guy that I
21:36
actually really like your fantasy.
21:38
And I feel like I always have a soft spot for him more than
21:40
anybody else. But it is Bo Horvat of the New
21:43
York Islanders. Is both short for something or
21:46
is that just like a full name? Bonathan good.
21:53
This. Part of the more serious answer.
21:58
Boys, short for Bobbert. Alright, go ahead.
22:02
Yeah, no, I think it's just both.
22:04
But yeah, I I love you Bull Horvat.
22:06
Sorry, over the last month is averaging one point per game and
22:12
which I feel like for borehole Horvat, you wouldn't say that's
22:15
too. Yeah, that was that was messing
22:17
up my words and my names. Actually short for Bowie.
22:21
Bowie William. The full name of Canadian
22:24
hockey. Player like Bowie, how do you
22:25
spell that? Like David.
22:27
Oh my God. That's a weird way to spell
22:29
Bowie. David Gone.
22:37
Alright, anyway, yeah, so Bowie, William Horvat Bow for short.
22:42
OK. I prefer Jonathan.
22:45
I'm going to call a Bowie doll. So Bowie's been averaging one
22:50
point per game for the last month, which I feel like if you
22:53
know him historically, that's not a crazy number, right?
22:56
Like on Vancouver he was a stud, but on the Island it's a
22:59
different story. He's more of like a point 8.9
23:01
points per game type of player. The thing is that I don't have
23:05
one of the worst power plays in the league, but over the last
23:08
month he's averaging 0.5 power play points.
23:10
So half is half his points over the last month of all been on
23:13
the power play for power play. That's the bottom five in the
23:15
league. So you kind of know you can, you
23:17
know, connect the dots and be like, alright, this is not
23:19
really something that's sustainable.
23:21
So I would try to trade him before the production regresses
23:25
where he doesn't. He's not getting as many power
23:27
play points. He's been shooting more as well.
23:30
He's honestly a really well-rounded centre.
23:32
Like he she shoots, he's an elite face off winner.
23:35
He'll contribute and hit some blocks, but I think now is the
23:38
time to hop off this ship while he still has this elite
23:41
production and get a guy that you know that you're going to be
23:43
able to hold value rest of season.
23:47
They won't have as much of the highs and the lows.
23:50
I think if you can flip them for Joel Ericsson egg, that's a
23:52
great target because he's also a guy that's really good at
23:54
category coverage who his points haven't really been up there as
23:58
of right now. If you can get Nick Suzuki,
24:00
that'd be great, especially because he has a great playoff
24:02
schedule as well. If we're talking cross position
24:05
for those leagues that you know, maybe have too many centres,
24:07
you're looking at wingers or defensemen instead.
24:09
If you can get Mark Stoner, Matt Boldy, I think those are great
24:12
targets. And for defensemen, I would do
24:16
one for one trade for most cider, which is going to be
24:18
tough, maybe in a package or Sergachev right now was hurt.
24:22
I think in terms of, you know, comparing centres towards cross
24:26
position defensemen and the scarcity there, I think I'd take
24:29
Sergachev over Horvat rest of the season.
24:32
What do you guys? Have learned today is that.
24:34
I'm higher on Sergio. Sergio Chevy, I had no idea you
24:38
were such a. I think he's, I think he's a
24:40
fringe top 10 defenseman. I just, I, I don't get it.
24:44
I don't get why you're so high on him.
24:45
But it's fine. Like he, he's very good.
24:47
I think he's very good. I just don't think he's as good
24:49
as you're making him out to me. But in terms of Bowie or
24:53
Bonathan? Boni.
24:54
Fully agree with everything you're saying.
24:56
I very it's very hard for me to ever trust and expect consistent
25:00
point production from someone on the Islanders.
25:02
They've just been historically a very bad team for points and
25:07
just in general a very great. Player though and like.
25:10
For sure, yeah. But just honestly anyone on that
25:12
team, don't expect them to keep like that point pace.
25:15
I didn't wanna say also before I interrupt you, sorry Josh, but I
25:19
forgot to mention in my in my spiel that they did change the
25:22
lines recently and they kind of stacked that first line where
25:24
he's finally playing with Andrew Lee and Barzal, which I think is
25:27
their best top line. So maybe it's not a huge
25:30
surprise that they've been better attacking with the new
25:34
line setup. But yeah, you still obviously, I
25:37
think that's more reason why to use that as leverage to sell
25:40
them. Yeah, so, so yeah.
25:42
So anyway, so I was saying like I agree with the with that his
25:45
points are are like higher than I would expect him to stay.
25:47
Especially the PowerPoint power play points being .5 is just
25:50
unreal, especially on the Islanders.
25:53
In terms of your targets, I agree with pretty much all of
25:55
them. I'm really surprised to see Mark
25:57
Stone on here cause you're a Mark stone hater so.
26:01
So I hate playing against Mark Stone.
26:03
Yeah, but you but you you like him this year as a as an asset,
26:08
Yeah, I mean, I like. All of this my heart, but yeah.
26:11
Yeah, my favorite. I mean, I like the same
26:14
position. Ones like Erickson Eck and
26:15
Suzuki would both much rather have over horror fat.
26:18
I think those are great ones. Body I think is awesome.
26:20
Cider sick. Sergachev I'm not as high on as
26:22
you, but I think I was still taking him for Horvat and a
26:25
stone as well. I think I'm not the highest on
26:26
him, but I'd probably still take him over Horvat.
26:29
Yeah, this is really good and it's just a really good choice.
26:34
Joel Erickson is probably my favorite here because I just
26:36
think he's the most elite for Bangor categories.
26:39
And yeah, I mean, you know, if you can flip the points, that's
26:44
usually seen as superior. But I mean, Horvath's gonna
26:47
regress, as you mentioned, so yeah, it's time to say goodbye
26:51
to Bowie. That was so depressing, the way
26:55
you said that. It's really sad.
26:59
Sorry, sorry. Everybody.
27:01
Cool, Should I move on to my cell high?
27:04
You should. Bye bye Bowie.
27:09
He's on a space already. Sorry.
27:13
OK, so my choice is an awesome dude.
27:18
He's just great in every way. So it is Logan Thompson of the
27:24
Washington Capital, starting off with the bull case.
27:28
Q Josh saying Jake did finance. Yeah.
27:30
This man's just awesome at everything.
27:32
His flow unparalleled his personality.
27:35
While I don't know him, I remember seeing something on
27:38
Instagram from someone a few years ago who was like it was a
27:41
post about Thompson and he commented my cousin went to high
27:44
school with this guy and he said he was the nicest guy ever.
27:46
Doesn't surprise me. He's awesome and most
27:48
importantly, I. That was actually me leaving
27:50
that comment. Do you know someone who went to
27:53
high school with Thompson? No, I don't know.
27:55
Just kidding. OK, that would be cool, though.
27:57
That'd be cool. But yeah, most importantly, I
27:59
drafted him on my team and I have loved it since the
28:02
beginning. Move over Dustin Wolf, there's a
28:04
new sheriff in town. However, I have loved owning
28:09
Thompson a tad too much as of late, and although it really
28:13
pains me to suggest selling one of my top assets in our main
28:16
league, I'm dedicated to our podcast and craft and how to
28:19
give you guys the best objective advice that I can.
28:22
So Charlie Lingering, who's been in a tandem with Thompson all
28:26
year, even though Thompson has been far superior, was hurt on
28:29
January 10th. Since then, Thompson played
28:31
every game, and over those last five games he's won all of them.
28:35
Posted 2 shutouts and his worst save percentage has been a 938.
28:40
Let's discuss Charlie Nuts nuts. Absolutely not.
28:44
Sorry Josh. I know they're kind of feeling
28:46
the brunt this week. Yeah.
28:48
Good segue into this new thing, though.
28:50
Unfortunately, Charlie Lindgren is, well, not information.
28:52
OK? Anyway, Charlie Linger is not
28:54
healthy, which is fortunate for him and everyone involved.
28:57
And we want players to be healthy, but fantasy is what
29:01
we're talking about. So if you're a Thompson owner,
29:03
it sucks. Charlie Lindgren is now back and
29:05
he's playing in his first game on January 23rd, so this screams
29:11
regression for Thompson. There's two possible outcomes
29:13
here. 1 The Capitals keep riding the tandem, so Thompson is well
29:17
rested for the Capitals in the playoffs, and Thompson
29:21
continuously puts up elite, although still gonna slow down
29:24
from this percentages or two. Uh, Thompson takes over as the
29:30
starter and he starts putting up more volume but less good
29:33
percentages moving forward. I think it's gonna be the first
29:37
one where they keep running the tandem.
29:38
So really the only guys I'd be willing to sell Thompson for is
29:42
one of the elite goalies. First we got Connor Hellebuyck,
29:46
although he's probably untouchable, right Kevin?
29:48
We owed him in another league. There's no way.
29:50
We're going to mean he's like one of the best fantasy players.
29:53
Yeah, that's it. So it have to be Logan Thompson
29:55
plus again, elite, elite asset. So at that point, I don't think
29:58
it's worth it. What?
29:59
Vasilevsky, Ottinger and Chesterton are all guys that
30:03
feel more comfortable owning over Thompson rest of season
30:06
because they have a proven track record of being elite goalies
30:10
and our sure thing starters barring injury.
30:13
I'm sure that Kevin could come up with a few other names that
30:17
he'd rather, but yeah. I can see you pressing.
30:24
Josh, I don't know, maybe you have.
30:25
Activated my trap card. Would you rather sorry?
30:30
Yeah. But yeah.
30:31
So anyway, I mean, I think do we all agree that you'd rather have
30:35
these guys over Thompson rest of the.
30:37
Season yeah, I like this as a sell high a lot.
30:40
I mean, he's just been unreal. This is one of those like, this
30:43
is a really good sell high because we're not trying to
30:47
swindle our trade partners. You know what I mean?
30:49
Like we're not trying to sell them someone who's doing so well
30:51
and is going to become like garbage after we trade them.
30:53
This is someone who's going to be good rest of season
30:55
regardless. It's just that he's doing too
30:57
good right now. So that's when you could jump
30:59
into the next tier. So I fully agree with everything
31:02
you said. I think the one of the biggest
31:04
caps on him is Charlie Lindgren and just the fact that they're
31:07
so comfortable in a playoff spot, they have no reason to
31:09
overwork Thompson when he's clearly going to be their
31:12
starter for the entire playoffs. So they have no reason not to go
31:15
back and forth with Lingren. I mean, it could be a A2 out of
31:18
three type of thing, but it's definitely he's definitely gonna
31:20
lose a lot of starts now that lingering is back.
31:21
So I think it's a great sell high.
31:23
In terms of your targets, I agree.
31:24
Hello. Buck is untouchable.
31:26
I don't think that's gonna happen.
31:27
But in terms of your other ones, I think they're all better than
31:32
Thompson, the only one that like is kind of crazy.
31:34
But like Justin, you know, like who knows?
31:35
But Rangers are turning a corner.
31:37
So I think, I think he still is. I think Chesterton is actually
31:40
the one, the most likely 1 you can get.
31:41
And I think if you sent that, you know, like one for one, it's
31:45
still possible that it gets done, which is kind of crazy.
31:47
I think one for one these can all get done.
31:49
Like, not hella buck obviously, but.
31:52
Second, I think they're all in the realm of possibility because
31:55
of how good Thompson has been. It's obviously he doesn't have
31:57
the same name value as these guys.
31:59
So it's possible, you know, you might have to throw in a little
32:01
bit extra or the owner is just, you know, not gonna be into it.
32:04
But if they're like a believer or they just look at the numbers
32:06
and see how insane he's been, you can pull these off.
32:08
And I think these are all great moves.
32:10
Yeah, I, I, I, I, you know, reiterate everything you guys
32:15
have said. I think when the goal is this
32:17
hot, it's you're not doing yourself a service if you're not
32:20
trying to trade them and you gotta aim high.
32:23
I mean, in your league, who knows?
32:24
Try Connor Hellebuyck, maybe in a package, like maybe the owner
32:28
is more receptive to it than you thought.
32:30
Like, you gotta do your due diligence.
32:32
But Vasilevsky, orange chicken, I think to me, there's one,
32:35
there's four tiers of goalies. Let's say Tier 1 is only
32:39
Helbock. Tier 2 is Vasilevski 113.
32:42
Then tier 3 encompasses a lot of guys and I think Thompson is
32:45
just in that tier. But if you can, you know, get
32:48
some other guy plus or tear up, that's always what you trying to
32:53
do. When you got somebody doing as
32:54
well as Logan Thompson, it's like all Mark when he had a
32:57
stretch of two weeks where he was like the best thing on the
32:59
planet, yeah, you gotta try to trade him, but don't try to get
33:03
rid of him. You know, get fair.
33:05
Value. That's it.
33:06
This isn't a guy who's gonna turn into a pumpkin, you know,
33:08
like he's still gonna be. If you can't treat him, it's not
33:10
the end of the world. You just have to be stuck with a
33:12
really good goalie, you know? But if?
33:13
Like, and if he does turn into a pumpkin, we're not liable.
33:15
Yeah, don't you put that on us. But yeah, it's a, it's a good
33:22
one. And like you said, Josh, you
33:25
know, you're, you're still stuck with like a really great goalie.
33:27
It's not the end of the world if you can't get rid of him.
33:29
It's just, yeah, we wanna level up here.
33:31
And I think that's how you can do it.
33:34
Cool. That wraps up our Buy Low Sell
33:37
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