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Lee Asher of the Asher House Animal Sanctuary Shares His Inspirational Journey · Miss Understood with Rachel Uchitel

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  Speaker 1: I hope you guys are having a great Thanksgiving holiday.
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  Speaker 1: So today's guest is a total inspiration and one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons I even started a podcast, just so I
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  Speaker 1: could sit down and talk to my own personal heroes.
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  Speaker 1: And Lee Asher is definitely that. He started the Asher
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  Speaker 1: House Animal Sanctuary with a dream of fulfilling his life's purpose.
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  Speaker 1: With nothing more than hope and an RV, he quit
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  Speaker 1: his day job in corporate America and set off on
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  Speaker 1: a mission to rescue dogs. But his story started way
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  Speaker 1: before that. Lee overcame severe learning disabilities, scoliosis, a tumultuous upbringing,
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  Speaker 1: and years of being bullied by his peers. He knows
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  Speaker 1: better than anyone that sometimes you have to go through
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  Speaker 1: some pain to truly appreciate life's happiness. And you do
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  Speaker 1: not want to miss a moment of his story. So
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  Speaker 1: get the tissues ready and enjoy our encore episode of
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  Speaker 1: Lee Asher. Welcome back to Misunderstood. I'm your host, Rachel Yucatel.
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  Speaker 1: My next guest, Lee Asher, is one of the most
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  Speaker 1: inspirational people I've ever come across. He founded the Asher House,
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  Speaker 1: an animal sanctuary, which on Instagram, over one million people
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  Speaker 1: are currently following Lee on his journey, rescuing and rehabilitating
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  Speaker 1: animals that have been abused and abandoned, giving them a
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  Speaker 1: permanent home to live out their lives. Here to tell
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  Speaker 1: his story is the one and only Lee Asher. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you deeply for having me. It means a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So let's start with not who you are now, but
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  Speaker 1: how you became who you are. Tell me about your childhood,
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  Speaker 1: where you're from, what that was like for you growing up.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: I actually grew up in Florida, which I just found
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  Speaker 3: out you're there now. So I grew up in Florida.
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  Speaker 3: Like many people, which is important to recognize, I had
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  Speaker 3: a very unique childhood. I I grew up with severe
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  Speaker 3: learning disabilities. So in school, I had to be separated
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  Speaker 3: from all the cool kids and pretty much everyone who
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  Speaker 3: had groups of friends and cliques and athletes. I grew
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  Speaker 3: up with severe learning disabilities, ADD and ADHD and all
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  Speaker 3: these things. And I spent most of my time, the
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  Speaker 3: majority of my time, either alone or with animals. I
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  Speaker 3: didn't have many friends or many people to go to
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  Speaker 3: for really anything. And I always wanted to fit in.
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  Speaker 3: It's not that I didn't care. I wanted to fit in.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to be part of a group. I wanted friends.
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  Speaker 3: But I never felt not only welcomed, even if I
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  Speaker 3: was welcomed, I didn't feel comfortable. I felt just the
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  Speaker 3: most at peace if I was either.
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  Speaker 2: Alone or with animals.
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  Speaker 3: Not to fast forward, but by learning that that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of how my journey started. You know, I really accepted,
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  Speaker 3: accepted the fact that a young age that I was
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  Speaker 3: different and I stopped trying to fit in, which brought
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  Speaker 3: me a lot of happiness by just being comfortable to, um,
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  Speaker 3: except the fact that I was very different, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I started going to animal shelters as often.
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  Speaker 2: As I could. I, uh, I would, even run away
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  Speaker 2: from school sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: There was an animal shelter about a mile down the
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  Speaker 3: road from where I went to school, and I would
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  Speaker 3: go there during lunch and breaks. I would go there
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  Speaker 3: all of the time. Luckily, I've always been very tall
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  Speaker 3: for my age. I always looked older, so they thought
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  Speaker 3: I was an adult, but I was quite young, and
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  Speaker 3: I would go, and I would just sit with the animals,
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  Speaker 3: and I used to bring them food from my cafeteria
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  Speaker 3: and treats.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just different. You know, I can't explain it.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I look back at my childhood often now,
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  Speaker 3: like I always look back at that little boy. And
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  Speaker 3: it's interesting that I don't feel I'm much different now. Besides,
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  Speaker 3: you know, the insecurity aspect, I was, of course, very,
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  Speaker 3: very insecure. Pretty much throughout my entire, even up until
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  Speaker 3: my young adult life, until my mid-20s, very, very insecure,
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  Speaker 3: very lost.
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  Speaker 2: I never understood what I was doing here.
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  Speaker 3: And a lot of the questions I asked myself as
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  Speaker 3: a little boy, as you know, just a kid, I
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  Speaker 3: still ask myself today.
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  Speaker 2: I just, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing what I always envisioned I would do, but
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  Speaker 3: my mindset isn't much different. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So did your parents get you a pet of your
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  Speaker 1: own or you had to go and volunteer to go
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  Speaker 1: see other animals?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it was really sad because I had a
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  Speaker 3: pet and I became allergic to dogs. And I'm allergic
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  Speaker 3: to anything with fur. I had severe allergies. I was
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  Speaker 3: always sick as well. And looking back at it, it
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  Speaker 3: was definitely because of stress. My parents were always screaming
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  Speaker 3: at each other. They were very, very loud and very
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  Speaker 3: negative about everything. And it was, you know, they're still alive.
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  Speaker 3: So I always feel a little bit of guilt when
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  Speaker 3: I talk about it. But it was just a really
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  Speaker 3: really just an unfortunate way for a child to view
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  Speaker 3: a relationship, which really messed me up up until honestly recently,
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  Speaker 3: you know, thinking of what a relationship should look like
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  Speaker 3: and sound like.
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  Speaker 2: And it was just awful.
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  Speaker 3: So looking back at why I was always sick and
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  Speaker 3: I had like severe scoliosis when I would go to school,
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  Speaker 3: I had to wear.
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  Speaker 2: This huge back brace.
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  Speaker 3: So imagine being a kid with learning disabilities with a
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  Speaker 3: back brace, tall, can't defend himself. So like, I was
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  Speaker 3: just this tool to get, to get bullied and I
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  Speaker 3: finally had a dog and it was like the most
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  Speaker 3: amazing thing. And then they took the dog away from
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  Speaker 3: me because I became allergic. I was allergic to everything.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you name it. And I was allergic to it.
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  Speaker 3: Like I remember begging for a rabbit and I couldn't
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  Speaker 3: have the rabbit. So eventually by going, as I mentioned earlier,
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  Speaker 3: I would go to these animals and I, I gotta
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  Speaker 3: tell you, I kind of feel a little bit guilty
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  Speaker 3: because I'm, I'm acting like I had it so terrible,
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  Speaker 3: but I, everything that I went through without a doubt
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  Speaker 3: has shaped me to what I'm able to do now
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  Speaker 3: and to have the compassion I have for not just animals,
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  Speaker 3: but people. So as I talk about my childhood, I want.
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  Speaker 2: You to know that I really don't regret a thing.
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  Speaker 3: And I also know, not regret, I wouldn't change a thing,
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  Speaker 3: excuse me, but I also know that my parents, understanding
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  Speaker 3: who they are now, really did the best that they
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  Speaker 3: could at the time. They really were doing their best
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  Speaker 3: and in their minds, you know, were the best parents
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  Speaker 3: in the world.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want to say that.
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  Speaker 3: But by ignoring the fact that I was allergic to
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  Speaker 3: dogs and going to the animal shelters, I felt, I
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  Speaker 3: think that I built a strong enough immune system to
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  Speaker 3: where I wasn't allergic anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And eventually I was able to get a dog, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 1: That's amazing. I think what you said was so important
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  Speaker 1: because so many people look back on their lives and
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of regrets or guilt or shame,
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  Speaker 1: or they feel really bad about their childhood and want
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  Speaker 1: to change it so much. But I think it's so
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  Speaker 1: important for people to realize that that shapes who you are.
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  Speaker 1: And unless you have lows or things to compare to
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  Speaker 1: what's good, you don't know the difference. There's such a pendulum.
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  Speaker 1: You have to be able to feel you know, the
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  Speaker 1: negative to be able to feel the positive. And it's
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  Speaker 1: such a great thing for people to realize that who
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  Speaker 1: you are is shaped by where you came from and
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  Speaker 1: you can just learn a bunch of lessons and you, you,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay to, to kind of be in it and
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  Speaker 1: know that that's shaped who you are and you're a
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  Speaker 1: better person for it instead of wishing it was different.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's how I feel. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you nailed it. I, if you could correct me,
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  Speaker 3: I forgot what you said, but in order for, can
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  Speaker 3: you repeat that one part in order to, no help
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  Speaker 3: to be so positive. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I see things. I actually have a tattoo down my
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  Speaker 1: spine of it that says without pain, happiness has no meaning.
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  Speaker 1: And I believe in the pendulum.
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  Speaker 3: So, so like you bring up a beautiful point, you know, um,
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  Speaker 3: I go to therapy, and I really invest in my
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  Speaker 3: mental health, and no one's ever been able to help
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  Speaker 3: me look at what I'm about to tell you in
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  Speaker 3: a positive light up until a couple of days ago.
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  Speaker 3: I have a personal trainer, and he said to me,
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  Speaker 3: he was making a joke. He said, you know, my
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  Speaker 3: mother-in-law father follows you on Instagram. She asked me if
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  Speaker 3: you were single. So I said, and he, he asked
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  Speaker 3: me like, if that happens a lot and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, you know, it's interesting. People get this
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  Speaker 3: image of me on social media, but they don't know
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  Speaker 3: how toxic it is to date me. How, how, how
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  Speaker 3: toxic it is. And he said, what do you, He's like,
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  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? He's like, you're the nicest
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  Speaker 3: guy I've ever met. I love training you. If I
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  Speaker 3: had a daughter, you know, he has a son. If
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  Speaker 3: I had a daughter, I don't think I could want
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  Speaker 3: her to date anyone else but you. And I said,
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  Speaker 3: his name is Rod. I said, Rod, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 3: I could be in the room with someone and I
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  Speaker 3: think about something negative and I create like nothing, nothing
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  Speaker 3: at all happens. But all of a sudden I become
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  Speaker 3: completely cold.
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  Speaker 2: And shut off.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, I could be at a restaurant and
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  Speaker 3: I could hear someone speaking badly about someone.
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  Speaker 2: And you would think that they were talking to me.
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  Speaker 3: I said, I take on everyone's energy and I become this.
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  Speaker 2: This toxic person.
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  Speaker 3: And of course, since nothing happened, the person in the
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  Speaker 3: room thinks that they did something wrong. And the more
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  Speaker 3: they push to try to figure out what they did wrong,
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  Speaker 3: the more upset and closed off I get.
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  Speaker 2: And I said, it's such.
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  Speaker 3: A terrible trait that, you know, I feel so bad
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  Speaker 3: for the people in my life. And you know what
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  Speaker 3: he said to me? He said, Lee, he said, you're
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  Speaker 3: the most giving person. Like, I'm with him two hours
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  Speaker 3: every morning. So he hears me on the phone. If
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  Speaker 3: he needs a favor, you know, he knows me very well.
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  Speaker 3: And he said, I'm so glad to hear you say
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  Speaker 3: this because I was wondering, like, what's wrong?
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  Speaker 2: There's got to be something wrong with him. And he said,
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  Speaker 2: but there's nothing wrong with you.
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  Speaker 3: He said, I believe in order to be as good
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  Speaker 3: as you are, you also have to be bad. Like
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  Speaker 3: you also have to be low. And he said, for
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  Speaker 3: you to jump really high, what do you have to do?
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  Speaker 3: You have to crouch down low to the floor. And
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  Speaker 3: it was such a, such, and you know, he explained
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  Speaker 3: it better, but it was such a beautiful way to,
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  Speaker 3: for me to view it as if like me, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can go really good, really high, but
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  Speaker 3: number to get really high, you have to go really
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  Speaker 3: low sometimes, you know? And it's, uh, it's true. I
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  Speaker 3: believe the most amount of growth is in the struggle.
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  Speaker 3: There is no life without pain. It teaches us the
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  Speaker 3: most beautiful things in the world. You know, it like it,
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  Speaker 3: It just, it's when you know how to, when you
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  Speaker 3: know that pain is happening for you and not happening
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  Speaker 3: to you, which is a really hard thing to understand
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  Speaker 3: when you're able to embrace it and know that it's, it's,
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  Speaker 3: it's for you. Like this is, I believe my personal
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  Speaker 3: belief that anything that happens to us in our life
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  Speaker 3: is so that we can make another life better.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that no matter what you go through, it's
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  Speaker 3: not for you. It's for you to use that energy,
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  Speaker 3: that tool, that wisdom, that experience. It's for you to
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  Speaker 3: use that to help another person in some way. And
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  Speaker 3: then that person uses that and that person, and that
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  Speaker 3: is the gift of life. That is why we all,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's looking for their purpose. We all have the same purpose.
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  Speaker 3: It's to help each other in some way. We can
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  Speaker 3: all help each other in different ways, but that is
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  Speaker 2: It's to help people. We all have it.
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  Speaker 2: You know? Right.
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  Speaker 1: So in bringing up that point, you've talked a lot
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  Speaker 1: about how you had a fear of death when you
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  Speaker 1: were younger and the concept of uncertainty. Um, when did
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  Speaker 1: that start for you? And also how did you figure
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  Speaker 1: your way out of that? So you changed your mentality
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  Speaker 3: know sometimes I could talk a lot. I'm not as
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  Speaker 3: Rambling, you know, but I'll tell you the story. I
• 18:02
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  Speaker 2: TV in the house, the news was on.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: And I was sitting on my mom's bed while she
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: was getting ready for work. And I had just been
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: able to start talking and understanding things. And somebody died.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think it might have been Frank Sinatra, if I
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: am not mistaken. But somebody died. And I asked my mom,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: how did they die? And she said, whatever she said,
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: they died, right? And I said, how can someone die
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: like that? And she said, a lot of people die
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: that way. And I said, how else do people die?
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: And she said, you name it, you know? And then
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: she said, she's like, Lee, you know that everybody dies, right?
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: And I said, everybody dies.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Everybody. I said, and then what happens? She's like, I
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like when she said that my world, I
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: remember like feeling nothing but fear.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: And, and, you know, again, she did the best that
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: she could, but in that moment, instead of like comforting
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: me and, and letting me know, you know, that it's
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: about the journey and that life, you know, she was like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Grow up.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Everybody dies. Snap out of it. I'm going to work.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: It was very cold and quick. And I started just
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: obsessing over the thought.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: You know it brought me such anxiety I used to
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: just think about it and out loud I'd say.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: No no no no no like don't think about it.
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: Right now you know no no no and I realized
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: you know like I think I really had that fear
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: up until I kind of found my purpose that that
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: that's really what took it away it was finding figuring
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: out why I was here Because then it doesn't matter
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: to me what happens after you die.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: It matters to me what happens while I'm alive.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: You know? Right.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: And that changed my whole perspective is like finding the
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Asher house, creating the community. And also to be honest,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: and not the most, this is what I'm about to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: say is I'm very positive or optimistic, but it's the truth.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: As you get from me, being so invested into animal rescue.
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: You know, you can go to the shelter without really
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: knowing much about animal rescue. You just know about the dog.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: But with what I do now, finding so much about
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: how cruel people can be, how unfair life can be, I.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Started thinking to myself that death can't be that way.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: That I am more curious about what would happen. Instead
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: of fearing it, I'm more curious because I don't think
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: anything in the world.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Would be as unfair or as cruel as how life
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: can be. Now, I also believe that life can be
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: beautiful and peaceful and all this, but I think what
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I now have the belief where my feeling, my answer
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: is not the unknown, that I believe there's a peace
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to it. And that's why it's.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: So important, you know, to do your best to find
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: that peace here and do your best to make it count.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: But I don't think that it will be that unfair
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: once we're gone, if that makes sense.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. So, you know, I think that's so important what
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, finding your purpose, because so many of
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: us are lost, right? And even if we're chugging along
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: and doing what we think we're supposed to do and we,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: you know, find that partner or we have kids or
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: we find a job, sometimes people are still really unhappy
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: and they can't figure out why. And I'm 48 years
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: old and I'm doing my best to, you know, reinvent
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: my life all the time and figure it out because
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I've realized that that sense of being unhappy is because
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I haven't found a purpose. Do you know what I mean?
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: And so I'm constantly trying to figure it out. I
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: think it's the, the first step is for your second
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: act of life kind of, or even getting to that
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: point where you feel like your life has started is
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: finding that purpose. And for a lot of people, it's
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: really hard, but it sounds like for you at some
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: point you were able to figure out your purpose. And
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: so I want to get into that because that's where
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you kind of flourish and become someone new, even though
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: you're talking about being the same person, but it's when
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: your life started. So you quit your job, you traveled
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: in an RV across the country to rescue animals. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I want to know what that was like. What were
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you doing as a job to begin with that you quit?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was working for a finance company where I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: would go to different sales companies and help them with
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: motivation and sales strategies to increase optimization and to be
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: more motivated. I would talk to them about energy and health,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: a lot of what I talk about now, but I
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: would do it for a corporate company and go in there.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: They would call me a corporate trainer, but the truth is,
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: can I curse on here or no?
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Sure, yeah.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, it was bullshit. You know, I didn't know
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: at all how to train the company. I never owned
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: a business. I was just a tall guy who looked
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: good in a suit who can reiterate words from other people.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: You know, it's all about motivation. But I didn't know
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: anything about it. I felt like such a phony.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Because it wasn't from your experience, right?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: No, exactly. I believed it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: It's not that I didn't believe it. I believed, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: you need to be healthy and you need to work
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: hard and go, go, go, all these things. But you
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: should never speak about something unless you experience it. You
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: should never ask somebody how to start a business or
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: how to run a business if he's never or she's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: never done those things. So I was just a phony.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: I was so tired of being a phony. I was
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: so tired of being like everybody else. I was so
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: tired of not going, starting my own path, my own way.
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: The only reason I'm bringing this up is because you
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: mentioned death. I thought a lot about death. And it's like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: what's this thought that you're going to live another 10 years?
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: What's this thought that you're going to live another five years?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: You don't know shit. You don't know what the fuck
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: is going to happen tonight.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: I said, what do you love to do, Lee Asher?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: What do you love to do? I said, I love
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: to help people. What else do you love to do?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I said, I love to help animals. Fucking go do it.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Go figure out how to do that. Those are the
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: two things that you don't need to make money from
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: to be happy. Go do that and nothing else. And
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: that became my obsession to figure those things out. How
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: do I do that.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: And the answer was right in front of me because
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: I had, you know, I was at the shelter and
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I was making videos of animals and people loved the
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: videos at the time.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: And, you know, it was getting animals adopted. So I said,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I'm doing, why don't I do this? You know, how
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: do I, take it to the next level and the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: next one.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I kept thinking like, okay, this, this, I can only
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: take this to here, right? To this level. What, what
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: can I do now to take it to the next one?
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: And that's what I kept focusing on is the next,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: the next level, which I'm sure I could tell you're
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: someone who has really high standards because you talked about
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: your purpose, which I think you do such a good
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: job at this. So you obviously have really high standards.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: So people with high standards, it's much harder for them
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: to find their purpose, right? Because you'll find your purpose.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: You say, no, no, that can't be it. It has
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: to be this, it has to be that, right? But
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: a lot of times our purpose is just that, is
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: just doing that little bit of good, you know?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: That one person's life that you saved, that was it,
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: you continue on that path.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Not that you retire, but you just keep, but anyways,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I knew for me, like, I had to leave it
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: all behind.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I had to leave it all behind, right?
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: And- What was that like, literally quitting your job, not
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: knowing where your income was gonna come from?
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: How did you do it? I was just thinking about
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: this this morning. Seriously, Rachel, I was just thinking about this.
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: I was at the gym and I was having a
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: hard time with my workout. And sometimes when I'm having
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: a hard time, what I do is I think of
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: harder times. Hmm. So whenever I'm having a hard time,
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: I think of a time that was harder for me
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: that I got through it. And that always helps me
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: with the hard time, which is a, you know, a
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: really good strategy. So I was thinking about the day
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: that I told my mentor my plan.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: His name is Al. He lives in Palm Beach.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: And this is the only guy who I felt ever
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: thought I'd be successful, right? There was one guy who
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: thought I'd be successful. And, you know, very successful guy.
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: And I, his word meant everything to me. And I
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: told him my plan. And he said, for the first
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: time ever, he called me stupid.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: He's like, wow, you're stupid. I said, no, don't say that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: I remember he said, you know, I really believed in
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: you past tense. And now you're doing this because the
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: way everyone would explain it, you're quitting. This is what everyone,
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: you're quitting your job to travel with dogs in an RV.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you could say anything. with that tone
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: and make it, I said, no, I'm going to visit,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I'm going to go to different shelters. I'm going to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: visit shelters and get animals adopted. And I'm going to
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: be able to teach people how to train rescue animals
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: and how to build a bond. And, you know, I'm all,
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I'm passionate about, and no, and I remember just like,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: you know, you feel so small, like you feel like,
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: You know, I felt like how, like, just like back
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: I did in those classes, you know, you so alone,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: so misunderstood, like nobody gets.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: It, you know? And it's at that moment that you
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: can decide.
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: That is a pivotal moment for your life, your career,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: your relationships. It's that moment where you say, okay, here's
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: the decision I have to make. I'm going to not,
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: it's not about proving everyone wrong. It's about, am I
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: going to prove to myself that I'm right? Or am
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I going to prove them that they're right? You should
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: never want to prove to them that they're wrong, right?
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Because now you have ego involved in your mission. There
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: should never be ego involved in your mission. The battle
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: is always within. Am I going to prove to myself
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: that I'm right? And I was born with all these
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: you know, dyslexic and ADD and this and all that.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Can't do math, can't do this.
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: All because I'm supposed to do this with my life
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: or am I going to show them that they were right?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: You see? And that was the moment, you know, I said,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm going to do everything it takes.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: And that's so brave because it's so hard for people
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: because so many people ask outside opinions, right? And that sways. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: You never, today, somebody asked me my opinion on an
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: invention that they want to create, right? And I said,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: will my opinion make a difference in whether or not
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: you do it or not?
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: And they said, I'm not sure. And I said, first
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: decide if you're going to do it no matter what,
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: then ask me my opinion.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: That's a great answer. But that's such a great lesson
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: that you're giving people on, you know, don't be swayed
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: because somebody else is disappointed in your decision because ultimately
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: you will feel disappointed if you don't follow your own path.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why so many people are stuck.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: When they say the affirmation, which I love, all you
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: need is within you now, right?
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: That is because it is completely, you are the controller.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: You are all of it. You know, you are everything.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: everything that you need to do what you need to do.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: You are everything that you, you need to be able
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: to pivot, right? There's a different, right?
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Let's say, for example, it's a basketball player who's obsessed
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: with basketball.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I have to play basketball. I have to play basketball.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: What that person needs to do is realize they don't
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: have to play basketball, but they have to be involved
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: in basketball.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: You have to be able to pivot, right?
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: You have to love it so much that you're willing
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: to let the universe eventually tell you, listen, you literally
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: don't have legs. You can't play basketball in the NBA,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: but you can be a hell of a fucking coach.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Right. And that's what it's about.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: It's about not letting people tell you, but you understanding
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: what you're able to do and what you're able to accomplish,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: but never taking your eyes off the main goal, right?
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: You have to have your eyes open. so laser focused
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: on it. And I was lucky, you know, a lot
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: of people tell me this, which they're right. Excuse me
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: while I take my jacket off. A lot of people
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: say it was easier for you to make this decision
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: because you didn't have a wife or children. I did
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: have a girlfriend at the time that, you know, I, I,
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: I knew with where my head was at this, my
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: focus was, was going to be my passion, but you know, it,
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: when someone says, yeah, but I have kids, I have.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: This, I have that. At the end of the day,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: these are all the reasons why you should do it. Yeah. Right.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: You know, when people tell me their reasoning of why
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: they can't get to a certain, a certain point in
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: their life or their career, they're telling me the reasons
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: why they should.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: You're telling me all the reasons.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: Why you should, you should be, even if you fail,
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: you're teaching your kids that you went for it no
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: matter what, you know?
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: We have such a short window, Rachel.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Like if you think about it, right, it's not even
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: if you lived to 100 years old, even if you
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: live to 100 years old, in order to be a
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: healthy operator as a human being, you have to get
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: enough sleep, minimum seven, eight hours, right? You have to
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: exercise minimum an hour. You have to eat right. So
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: you have to plan that accordingly. You have to invest rest.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: You have to invest your, you know, whether it be
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: meditation or cold or sauna. You have all of these
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: things that you have to do to be clear and focused.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: You have such a short window to do something amazing.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: So we should never spend that time with reasons of.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Why we're not doing it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: Everything should be to better your life, to better, you
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: are an energy, like you have no control over that.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: You are an unstoppable energy. When you move, energy moves
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: with you. You walk into a restaurant, that energy is now.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Formed with all these other energies. You have a responsibility
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: as a human being to be an unstoppable force for good, right?
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: And that's why everyone's so messed up right now because
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: there's so much negative energy, so many people making bad decisions.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: that you're kind of, people are confused of which direction
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: they should go. But you need to be laser focused
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: on your mission. You need to be laser focused on
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: your passion. You need to, when you're doing that, you
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: don't judge others, you don't make fun of others, you
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: don't put negative, you're too busy and you're too focused
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: on being a force for good. That should be everyone's rule,
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: everyone's intention to be a force for.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Good every day, you know?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And it sounds like from what you're talking about, you
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: really believe in the power of positivity and manifestation. And
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: I know from doing some, you know, following you that you,
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: when you set out on your journey, you had a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: vision board for yourself. Do you think that's important for people?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Do you still have one? Do you still go by
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: that mentality?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: I don't have the actual board because in my mind,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: you know, now it's about maintaining. I accomplished the entire board.
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: Like literally from A to Z, the board is all
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: checked off, right? So although I still have the board,
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: I don't go to it for vision. I go to
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: it to humble me, right? But now it's all about
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: maintaining the board, making sure that the visions of the
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: board don't fall off, of course. You know, it's hard
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: to get there, but it's harder to maintain.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I should tell you that.
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: And I think that people should use any sort of
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: positive influence that helps them. I'll tell you what I
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: don't like to see is people who have a vision
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: board because they read it that it's good in a book.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: You have to have a vision board because you know
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: that if you use it as a tool, not as artwork, right?
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: That's why it's so important not to bullshit yourself because
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: bullshitting yourself is a habit, right? You buy the book
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that you never read. I don't believe, and I say
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: this with absolute respect, you know, I know books change
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: lives and movies change lives and motivational speakers change lives.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: All that shit. But man, you already know it. You
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: already know what to do. You just have to.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Apply it and apply it consistently.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: No one can teach you consistency and no one can
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: teach you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: To verify, contact info.ireland.bayor.com.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Those are the.
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: Two things that are going to get you where you
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: need to go. Whether it be physical, weight loss, weight gain, strength,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: whatever it be.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: Consistency. Discipline. Whether it be money. Consistency. Discipline. a good relationship,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: a healthy relationship.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: You can't not, you can't wake up and stop giving
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: a shit about your relationship one day.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: You have to consistently, you know, be a good partner, right?
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Be disciplined, all these things. It's an everyday thing.
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: And once you lack either of those things, you realize
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: you have to accept the fact that your mission is
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: not that important to you. It's more people take on
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: more hobbies than missions.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: I found. Hmm.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: So one of the things on your vision board that
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: you were talking about earlier was to go on Ellen
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: and you made that happen or it happened for you
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: because so many people kept contacting her and saying, Lee
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Asher should be on your show. Tell me what it
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: was like to be on Ellen.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: It was a cool experience.
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: You know, I am respectful with respectful to her. I
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: don't think I would do it again. I never said
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: that before, but I think I did it. And I,
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: I don't, I don't see myself.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Doing it again.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: So she's seen as like the queen of mean now
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: for a little bit. Did she treat you like that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: or did you feel honored?
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: No, she was very nice to me. She was very
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: nice to me. And I can't comment on her work
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: environment because, you know, from my experience, whatever I would
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: have to say would be fabricated. They don't give you enough.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: You know, you're in a room by yourself. You're watching
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: Ellen on the screen. And then they say, okay, now
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: you're on Ellen.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: So I could not comment on that.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: It must have helped you and gave you a lot
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: of visibility, no?
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be more.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: To me, you know what the best part about being
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: on Ellen was?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: It said, okay, you see, you could do it. Right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: You've made it. It's just something to check off on
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: your list. It's a guide.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: I never, I wouldn't, I never, even today, I don't
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: feel like I've made it, which I think because it
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: happened to me later in my career, you know, success
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: didn't happen to me until my thirties.
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: So I never felt like I made.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: I know how hard it is, but when I made
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: it on Ellen, it was like one of the further
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: things down before a sanctuary.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: It was like the eighth thing on my list to success.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to accomplish.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: And when I made it, I said, wow, you know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: you're about to almost check everything off. You have, you
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: have like two or three more things to check off,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: which I gave myself like five years to do, which,
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: you know, because of COVID, I did it a lot shorter.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: But that to me was like, you are on the
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: right pathway. Goodness always prevails. You've made mistakes, you know,
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: you have regrets in your business, you know, but you
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: kept doing the right thing. And that's something that really
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: the Ellen show taught me. Like, I kept doing the
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: right thing, and I was able to get on that show.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: And that was really a beautiful, like, stay on this
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: direction type of thing.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So talk to us now. So you started in Florida.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: You get in an RV. You start driving across country.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Did you know you were going towards Oregon, or did you?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't. I started in California. I grew up
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: in Florida.
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: Oh, okay.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I grew up in Florida, but with that job I
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: told you about, it would require me to live in
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: a different city and state every three to four months.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: So I hadn't been back to Florida quite some time.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: And still today, I haven't been back to Florida in years.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: So I, I, I haven't been back to Florida in
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: a while. And I was living in California at the time.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: And I, The reason I decided to do the RV
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: thing is because Instagram Live had just came out.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: It was brand new. And I was doing a live
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: every few days.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: And everyone was saying, I would love to meet your dogs.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: This shelter needs your help. This shelter needs your help.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: This shelter needs your help. And I thought to myself,
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: how the hell can I... you know, I want to
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: give the people what they want. I didn't have many followers.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I had like maybe 15,000, 20,000, which at the time
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I thought was like, oh my God, this is so crazy.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: And I, I was doing a lot of my work
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: in my friend's RV and my friend Luke's RV. So
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: I said, as a joke, maybe I can fix this
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: and come meet everybody.
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: And as soon as I said that, I felt like,
• 40:34
  Speaker 7: like this energy to my, like, you know, like you can't,
• 40:39
  Speaker 7: it's just like this sign, this idea, this, this is it. I,
• 40:43
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden I said, whatever this is, wait, wait,
• 40:45
  Speaker 7: wait on the live.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: I was like, wait, wait, maybe I could really get this.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: This is such a good idea. And that's when it
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: started coming together, you know? And I went with my,
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: we got the RV, which was like this beautiful, beautiful experience.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Cause I couldn't afford it.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: So I had a Kickstarter and we raised $ 40, 000 and
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I bought this RV and I left. And I remember
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: leaving California, um, Leaving California. And I remember thinking to my, like,
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: it was supposed to be a three month trip. So
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I didn't think that this was going to be a
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: new start to my career. You know, I thought it
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: was just going to be a step. And I remember
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: looking back in the.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: RV, seeing the dogs behind me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: And I said, this is it. This is, this is
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: not going to be it. This isn't the next step.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: This is the next chapter.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: And I ended up traveling around the country. Started with
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: seven dogs, then nine dogs, then 11 dogs.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: And we went all around.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: We went every single state, even all the way to Anchorage, Alaska.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: And it was such an experience.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: And we got so many dogs adopted and met so
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: many of our followers and fans. And it was just
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: this crazy experience. You know, it's living in the RV
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: that really... founded and built and shaped who I am
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: today and started this next chapter of my life because
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: it was living in an RV when COVID happened and
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I couldn't travel.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Anymore, right?
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: So I was stuck for a moment until I said, no,
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: this is happening for me, not to me. And I said,
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: if I can't travel in an RV, I need to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: still impact the world. I need to still inspire people
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: and still rescue animals.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: What can I do? And the idea for the.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Animal shelter was very, very soon after that, that whole
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: thought process. But throughout my travels, Rachel, at one time
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: when I land, I was camping in Oregon in the RV.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: I was camping in Oregon and it wasn't in the winter.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: It was in the summer and I was like, uh, speechless.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: You know, I couldn't believe the, the way how vibrant
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: everything is, how green everything The amount of land and trees,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: I said, the coast.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been to the Oregon coast?
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I have not, no.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: You can't explain it.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, the rock formations and everything is just like,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: to me, I said, this is where I want to be.
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: And the winters are really tough. You know, it's really tough.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: You have a lot of mud and the dogs are
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: always wet and it's cold and it's windy. But just
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: like you said earlier, you know, the pain for happiness
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: to be that beautiful, you have to go through the pain.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: For Oregon to look like the way it looks in
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: the fall and the summer, it has to go through
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: the darker weather. It has to go through these times
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: and it's worth it because it's to me, it's the
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: most beautiful place.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: And like, seriously, like in all of the U.S., I
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: think Oregon is the most beautiful.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: We all need to go then. So talk to us
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: about the developing, you talked about developing the idea of
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the Asher House. So you finally get this sanctuary. How
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: did it become more of bringing in animals to take
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: care of them and give them their forever home as
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: opposed to creating a place for you to just have
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: dogs and other animals adopted out?
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: How did I say it?
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: Say it one more time.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: So it's more... Asher House is more of a place
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: where animals can come now to live out their life, correct?
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: As opposed to you creating a shelter for dogs to
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: come and get adopted.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: And was that because you had more land and you figured, oh,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I can really take these in as a sanctuary?
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: There's a couple of reasons. So the first thing is.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Where we live, the county that we live, when we
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: bought the sanctuary, we weren't aware of this until after it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: But where we live, you're not allowed to adopt animals
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: out from your home. You're not allowed to have a
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: rescue from your home. So we decided we have an
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: amazing partner called New Life Animal, Family Dog New Life.
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: We're starting to collaborate. So the Asher House's name is
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: going to be in there soon. We're going to mesh
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: it together and call it New Life Asher House. But
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: for now, it's Family Dog New Life Animal Shelter. and
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: amazing shelter in Portland and they have it, their shelter
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: is set up like a daycare.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: So there's no kennels, all the dogs are there together.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: So we have partnered with them and when we bring
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: in animals that we believe will do well with the family,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: we bring them, we rehabilitate them there, get them to
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: a certain place and then family dogs will adopt them out.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: But a lot of the times we take in dogs
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: And people don't see this part.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: And they're like, please adopt that dog out, adopt that
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: dog out.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: But they don't realize what that dog would be like
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: outside of the pack. The amount of dogs and the
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: type of people that we have here is settling environment
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: for most dogs.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Like 99.9% of dogs that come here. have some sort
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: of trauma, you know, are neglected, start.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: So they have so much, so many trust issues that
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: if they're ever put back in a similar environment, right,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: that they were in before, it's this awful experience where they,
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: it completely reverses everything and they just become a different,
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: back to the original type of dog that they were.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: So a great example is we had this dog that,
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: you know, they warned us would bite, would warn us,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: would tear everything apart. This dog was vegan and neglected
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: and completely starved. So we don't see those characteristics. When
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: I take in a dog for some reason, I have
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: nothing but confidence that we can rehabilitate any dog, any
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: living thing.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: We can take this animal and show him or her
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: what love is.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: That's all an animal needs in order for it to
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: not be aggressive or any of these things, right?
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: People act out when they're in pain. Animals act out
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: when they're in pain. So if we feel like an
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: animal would continue acting out outside of the.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Sanctuary, then he or she will stay here so that
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: people can only see the beautiful side of that animal.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: But If we feel like an animal, man.
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: This dog would really thrive if it just had a
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: mom or if it just had a dad or if
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: it had a family where it didn't have to fight
• 47:44
  Speaker 3: for attention, then we.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Adopt the animal out.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: And it's something so beautiful because in the beginning, it
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: was very hard for me to let go of an
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: animal because I said to myself, like, they thrive here.
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: I know that they're well taken care of. They get
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: all the love, all the food. They get everything they
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: need here. They have the pack. But up until recently
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: when we exceeded 50 dogs and we started adopting them
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: out through our rescue partners, I hear the families with
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: the dogs and I see the dogs look even happier
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: with them than they did with me. And it brings
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: me so much joy because it's really important to believe.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: In people and to see the good in people.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: And as hard as it is to hear the terrible stories,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: it makes the beautiful story so much better. You know,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: we just adopted out this dog, Moishe, a bloodhound puppy.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: It was my dream dog, you know, giving, letting this
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: dog go was like, I didn't know what was wrong
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: with me, but I realized like everything that I do
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: is not for dog. I'm here to make the dog's
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: life better. And I knew Moishe would thrive better with
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: the family. And that's exactly what he got. And I've
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: never seen a happier dog. Like it's, it's really a
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: beautiful thing, man. It really is.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: There's nothing like seeing dogs get adopted. I mean, it, it,
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: I can, I can imagine that it's so hard for
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: you because you spent so much time with them and
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: built a relationship with them and a chemistry, but then
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: there's also nothing like seeing a family that really wants
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: this dog and wants to make them a part of
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: their life. I think that's so great. So, okay. I
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: have a bunch of questions based on someone who like
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: anyone else watches the Asher house on, on Instagram. And just,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: there are a million questions that go along with watching
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: you and your story. So I'm just going to fire
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: through a couple of them.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: Okay. Cool. How do you want me to answer them quick?
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: You want me to answer them quickly? Sure.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like, you don't get it. Have to get into
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: long answers. They're short questions. How do you pick deserves
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: to be rescued? It must be so hard.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, at this point, the dynamic of the
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: pack has a lot to do with it.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: So it's really not about the dog we're about to rescue.
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: It's about the dynamic of the pack and what I
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: feel would be in a good addition to the energy
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: of the pack. Right. So, for example, if I, let's say,
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: which is true, last week I rescued a really high
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: anxiety dog, really high anxiety. If it has anything next
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: to it, it chews it up. It's just always freaking out.
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: Until I release the dog's anxiety, I will not adopt
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: another dog. I will not bring another dog that matches
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: that dog's energy or else they'll feed off each other.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying? Of course.
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: It all depends on the dynamic of the pack and
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: where the dogs are. That is how I decide which
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: dog I bring in next.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: And how does it work with dogs getting along? I mean,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I have two right now. And I have a little
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: one and I have a big one. And I just
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: rescued the big one. And, you know, the big one
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: was clearly abused before we brought it home and had
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: all these issues that we didn't really know about. And
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: then I have my little dog that I've had since
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: almost birth, right? So they didn't get along so well.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Now they do. But how does it work in a
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: big pack like that?
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: So imagine, and I've never used this analogy, so be.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Kind to me.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: If you wanted to join a gang, right? And maybe
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: there's a better word for it. But let's say there
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: was a gang that you wanted to be a part of, okay?
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: And the gang said, for you to be a part
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: of our gang, you have to be okay with this, this, this, this,
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: and this. No negotiation, that's it. You have to be
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: okay with these five things. Then you enter. You are
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: now doing those five things. What I mean by that
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: is when a dog comes in, we have a big
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: pack and we operate a certain way. With a dog, right,
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: they are pack animals. So when a dog comes into
• 51:56
  Speaker 3: the pack, It's already set up for them. The rules
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: are at play. How the other dogs are acting and being,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: that dog realizes this is how I have to act
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: and be.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Because if this dog comes into a gang, if this
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: dog comes into a pack of 50 gang members and
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: he says, I'm the king, what do you think is
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: going to happen?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to go over very well.
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: They're going to be like, fuck that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You know, I can tell you right now.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: So they get, so it's that, you know, they say.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: We're a product, we're a product of the people we
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: spend time with, right? So same for animals, the animal,
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: you could have the nicest Chihuahua in the world, but
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: if you put that Chihuahua with 10 really feisty Chihuahuas,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: that Chihuahua is.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: Going to end up being an asshole as well. Right.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: It has, it's about, it's about putting that dog in
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: a better environment.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: That's why I'm always so confident.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Like I just did this rescue video and a lot
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: of people commented that Because the owner said, please tell
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: me if it doesn't work out. They always like to
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: act like they give a shit. Please tell me if
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: it doesn't work out. I said, trust me, it's going to.
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  Speaker 2: Work out, right?
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• 53:26
  Speaker 3: And a lot of people commented, how did you know
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it was going to work out? You don't even know
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: the dog. I know it's going to work out because
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: that dog is now my dog.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: That dog is coming into my path. And that's how
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: I know it's going to work out. You see what
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: I mean by that? 100%.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: How do you get these dogs? This question my daughter
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: brought up to me this morning because she loves you also.
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: How do you get the dogs to trust you? Because
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: you're going into an environment... you're seeing a dog who's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: super scared or abused or hasn't lived with someone because
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: they've lived on the street for a while. How do
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: you get them to actually trust you before you take
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: them to the pack, but trust you personally?
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Rachel, I got to tell you something, you know, you
• 54:08
  Speaker 3: are really beautiful at asking good questions. You know how
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: to ask a question like you, you ask the important stuff.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: You can ask a lot of stuff with what I do.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: You ask the good questions and you, you're patient. with me,
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: you're really like a pro.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: I want you to know, I really, really beautiful.
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: And tell your dog, tell your daughter, that's such a
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: good question, right? It goes back to your previous question
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: of how do all the dogs.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: Get along so well? I, I, I know, right?
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: That there isn't a situation that's going to make me
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: feel like this was a mistake. The dog can feel
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: that for me. So the dog doesn't think if I
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: do this, he will hit me. If I do this,
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: he will put me away. If I do this, he's
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: going to get mad. The dog knows this guy has
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: my back. He could feel that with my energy. He
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: could feel it with the way where she, with the
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: way that I pet her, with the way that I
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: hold her close. This, this guy isn't like the others, right?
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: It is my natural instinct for me as a human
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: to protect people.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I'm a big protector.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: I always, because I was bullied so bad, I have
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: this natural instinct to protect the weak. So when I
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: bring in a new dog, if you were to visualize it,
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: like I take the dog and I'm holding him behind
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: my back so that he or she can see in front,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: can see, but I'm the guardian.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: I'm the protector. And they can feel that.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: It's the way that I carry them, the way that
• 55:52
  Speaker 3: I hold them, the way that I don't hold their
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: stories accountable. For example, when I bring in a dog,
• 56:02
  Speaker 3: I treat that dog as if it was born that day.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: It's a new day. And I really believe that they
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: can feel that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: It's just like, You know, I think the best thing
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: about dogs is their instincts. Although sometimes, you know, it
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: happens where a dog has bit someone innocent and things
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: like that. But the dog usually, it's all out of fear.
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: So I take away all of the fear. You know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: that is my objective. When I meet a dog, it's like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: you're not going to fear me.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: If that makes sense.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: 100%.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: And it goes with experience, Rachel. Like, I don't want
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: people to think to themselves, oh, I wish I didn't.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: I wish I was like that. It's like, you do
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: anything every day. For the amount of time that I
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: do it, it's like you're going to become, if you
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: spend every, you see these people with lions and you
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: see them wrestling the lions, you.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Know, at the sanctuaries, not the circus bullshit.
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: But you see these guys at the sanctuaries wrestling lions
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: and hyenas and they're playing hide and seek. It's no
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: different than what I do with dogs. It's like these
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: guys live with the lions. They sleep with the lions.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: They eat with the lions. They are, the lion looks
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: at them as they are a lion. They don't look
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: at them as, this is a lion. The dogs view
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: me as the pack leader, a dog. You know, we
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: can communicate without communicating. All, 90% of dogs will communicate non-verbally.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: So you learn that language. You learn what they're feeling
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: before they have to express it. And it's just this connection,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: this energetic connection, you know? Right.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Have there any, any time been, I mean, cause I
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: know even with people and their personality, sometimes you get
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: a bad egg or you're, you know, you, you think
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: one thing about someone and they're either really mentally ill
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: in a different way, right? Has there ever been a
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: dog that's come in that you haven't been able to
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: rehabilitate that you've had to send elsewhere or that you
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: have to keep away from the pack and cannot introduce
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: them at all and they live somewhere else?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: I've had dogs.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: I've had dogs where I'll bring them into the pack
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: and everything is great.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And it was going really well. And sorry, my parrot
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: is here behind me.
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I see, so cute.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: And everything was great.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: And then once they got comfortable in the pack, they said,
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: you know, I think I want to be the pack leader.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: And the pack isn't okay with that. The pack doesn't
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: want that. So I will then have to spend a
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: lot more time next to that dog, right? Like really
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: close to that dog. You see me when I'm out,
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: I never use a leash and things like that. I
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: will start leashing that dog. And that's my way of saying,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: you're not, you're not the pack leader, right? And then
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: of course, eventually they will, they will, it goes away.
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: So dogs, just like children will always test you. They'll
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: always see what they can get away with. Eventually they'll
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: try new things. And some you just bring them back
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: to day.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: One, right?
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: But never from the beginning, right off the bat, has
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: there been like, oh, this isn't going to.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: Work out, you know?
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Right. Animal rescue is such a difficult job, business. Has
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: there ever been a time that you have wanted to
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: quit since you started on this mission?
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not joking, like every few days.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I consider it every few days.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And what keeps you going or not stepping out of
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the game?
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Because it's a selfish thought.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: So if I do that, everything, all the pain, all
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: the tears, all the loss, the death, all the tragedy,
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: the trauma, all the successes, even all of it was
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: bullshit if I do that.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: It all became selfish. Because I've never.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: No one ever quits basketball or any sport because it's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: too hard for a teammate. It's because of them. And
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: if I quit, it's because of how I feel or
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: something happening to me. And it's okay to have selfish thoughts.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: It's different for the action, right? You can't control your thoughts.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: You can control your action. I often want to quit.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: For what I do at this level.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: Um, it's not the dogs, it's the people that make
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: it really tough for me, Rachel, you know, going back
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: to like feeling misunderstood, I'll post something and people like completely,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: you know, didn't understand what I was trying to say.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: Like you have to almost try to be perfect, which,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: you know, you're, If I keep the animals, people say
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: you're hoarding dogs. If I get the animals adopted, they
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: call me a piece of shit for showing the dog
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: a sanctuary, then adopting it out. You can't make everybody happy.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of pressure, you know.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: And I was going to ask you about it because
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: you must get so many emails, calls, whatever it is about,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: you have to take this animal. And there's only so many.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 3: No exaggeration between two to 300 a day, two to
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 3: 300 per day. And you know what some of them say, Rachel,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: if you don't take.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: This dog, I'm going to euthanize it. Wow.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: That's about 10 to 15 a day. Pathetic people, you know,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of it.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Sure. Like, I don't want to, I don't want the emails.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: I don't want the negativity.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: Like you think you get to a certain place where
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 3: you don't have to deal with it.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: And, you know, I just didn't structure my life that way, unfortunately. Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Do people help you? You look like you're doing it
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: all alone from watching your Instagram. It looks like just you.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's got to be other help there.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I have help Monday through Friday from seven to three.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: That doesn't seem like a lot. How are you doing
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: it all on your own? I mean, I have two dogs.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And it makes me a mess. It's like, you know,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how to get them to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: be doing things so they're not bored. I mean, I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: know you have this amazing property to walk them all
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: over the place.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah. Entertaining the dogs isn't the hard part.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: But yeah, look, like, you know, I have a system down,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: but it's not, it's not a... I think I do
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: a bad job sometimes because I make, I think I
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: make it look very easy on social media. I don't
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: really know how to make it look difficult. I'm not
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: one that films something difficult. Like, I don't know, do I,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: do people want to see me picking up six piles
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: of dog shit in my living room?
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know what people, you know what I mean?
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, a lot of my stuff
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: is washing the dogs, cleaning up the dogs, feeding the dogs.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: And it's like, it's tough, you know?
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: And I'm now, I'm at this stage now So look,
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: not too long ago, Rachel, whenever I left the responsibilities
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: to someone else, something.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: Would go wrong. Right.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I totally understand that. Yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: And it really hurt me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Like really hurt me because it made me feel a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: guilty for giving someone else the responsibility and B that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: I will never have freedom.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: So I am now in the process of, of accepting
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: whatever happens.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: If something goes wrong, I know it's on me.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 3: And I have to be willing to, whether clean up
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: the mess, literally, or grieve, God forbid, and then I
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: have to make an announcement, you know, to, what, three
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: million people on Facebook and a million on Instagram and
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: all these other people.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: It's like, I have to have the weight and the judgment.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: But you know what?
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: Like, you have to let go.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 3: You, you, you, you, at the end of the day,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 3: you realize you can't, I realized like, I cannot sustain
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: if I do this myself long-term, I look in the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: mirror and I said, like, I don't recognize the face.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Like I, I have pictures of, of like collages on
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: my walls. Um, of when I started the Asher house
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: with certain dogs that had passed away. And it's like, man,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: you would think that was 20 years ago. You know,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: it's just a couple of years ago, three years ago.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: So I know that I need to, I need to, you.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Know, have some higher, yeah, hire more people and trust
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: people to do this for me.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: And that's the stage I'm at in my life now
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: is not just from seven to three, but you know,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: I don't have any help on the weekends.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: It's just me. So I'm going to start.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: Working, you know, I'm not starting, I've already started working
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: on myself to let go of more and more responsibilities
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: and start focusing on myself more.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: That's, I think, you know, how we talked about next chapters.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: This next chapter.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: For me is focusing on the Asher, not more than,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: but just as much as focusing.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: On the Asher house.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: Right. You were talking about the cleanup. How does it
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: smell in your house over there?
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: I have a lot of help in that department.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: I have three people that are cleaning the house Monday
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: through Friday. I'm really big on things being neat and organized.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: I don't like any spots on the floor. People are
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: always asking me how my house is so clean in
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: my videos. I like everything done. it has to look good.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: You know, like I, I invest a lot of money
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: on keeping my life organized and my house clean. You know,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I have two, two people from, you know, I have
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: 28 employees, 30 now, actually we have 30 employees and
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: two of them, all they do all day is clean outside.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: Like literally from, from the morning to the afternoon, they're
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: cleaning up dog poop and spraying and this, and it's,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: it's one thing that I make sure, like, if I'm
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: going to do this, I'm not going to do it
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: where people think because we have a lot of dogs
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: equals a lot of dog shit. Like I want us
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: to be pristine. You know, the dogs get, they, all
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: the dogs get groomed every month.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: Some of them get groomed every weeks.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Like I'm really big into keeping their nails, trim their ears,
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: clean the fur, you know, brushing.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: Like we, I run a really tight ship when it
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: comes to that.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: You were talking a little bit.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: I think every rescue should. Yeah.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: It's definitely important. No, no. You were talking a little
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: bit ago about how you think it's really important to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: balance your life and what you're doing and how you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: need to maybe focus on you a little bit more.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: You bring us along on your journey of all these
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: dogs and their story or animals and their stories. But
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: we rarely hear about you unless people are really listening
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: to what you're talking about. Because normally when you're talking
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: about the dog and their story, you can, as the viewer,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: can really get a lot of insight into you and
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: your head because you really talk more about, you know,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a metaphor kind of. At least that's what I've picked
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: up on. And I love that.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: Do you ever get lonely doing this?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: I really don't. I really don't.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: You know, lucky enough, I grew up alone. You know,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I even lived alone. My parents moved out when I
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: was 15. So I didn't have the childhood where if
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 3: something was wrong, I'd go to mom or dad.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I went to me and, you know, I
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: went to the beach and I remember looking at the ocean.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: You know, Spanish River, not too far from you, Spanish
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: River Beach. So I would go to Spanish River Beach,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: a couple of miles and I would run there. And
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: now it's my safe place as well. You know, it's
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: not a good thing. I'm really working on not isolating myself.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: But that's just my go-to. I like to be alone
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: or with the dogs.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: And I know what sounds weird. I don't know what
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: that feeling feels like, loneliness.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Like, my parents feel it a lot. I have a
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: lot of friends who confide in me. A lot of people,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: you know, really, it's really open up to me. And
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: Being lonely is like a big thing. I don't feel it.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 3: I've never felt it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Well, that's probably because you're surrounded by so much love
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: and you're so busy giving.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. It's like, you know, the dogs are the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 2: dog was really take up so much of my time.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: But to me, when someone wants to have lunch with me,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: it's more of a task.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes you out of what you love to
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: be doing where you obviously feel your most fulfillment.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: Um you're the but one of the one of the
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: cleaning ladies who like she's I'm very close with all
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: my employees and one of the cleaning ladies like she
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: loves work like people really do I'm not just saying
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: it you know people fucking love working here like it's
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: a beautiful environment like a lot of love the dogs
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: are friendly you know it's So one of the cleaning ladies,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: she also followed me. So she gets really excited to
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: come to work so she could be in the environment.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: And yesterday she's like, she said, you're always alone. Like
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: you're always, you're always alone. And I said to her,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: I'm never alone.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So true though. Your animals have such great names.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Tell people like some of your favorite names and how
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: you come up with names for these dogs.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I can't take all of the credit, you know?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: People like to give me their opinions when it comes
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: to names.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 3: But a lot of times what people don't realize is
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: I take the name that they already have and I
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: just play off of that name so that they can
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: still be somewhat familiar to the syllables in it.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: Like, I had a dog named Sarge that I named Roger, right?
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Because I felt like it was somewhat... Maybe that's not
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: the best example, but Sarge Raj, like it's in the short,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: you know. But I would say the best name is probably,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: I never had a favorite until recently. And I rescued
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: this dog that has, I forgot the, so bad of names,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: but she has, her frontal lobe is messed up.
• 1:10:33
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• 1:10:36
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• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: She could you know she tries to keep up with
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: the pack and one of my favorite movies growing up
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: was matilda yeah and i named her matilda after after
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: that character because she was so different but so special
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: right and i would say that's my favorite.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: One I love that story of Matilda. I watched it
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: recently on your Instagram. So I knew you were talking
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: about her because you show the viewer and people that
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: are listening should really go on the Asher house at
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: the Asher house on Instagram and, and look at the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: story of Matilda in, you know, as one of many,
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: but this story was so inspiring because you really talk about,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: you know, you show the rescue, you show taking, her
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: out of the cage or whatever you show her bringing
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: her and introducing her to the pack you show she
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: has such a hard time walking and then you show
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: that transformation of how she looks so happy and so
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: good yeah and you get teary-eyed which made me you
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: know totally start sobbing because you were like listen if
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: you've ever felt misunderstood or like no one loves you
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: and everyone's going to give up on you this is
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: just a pure example of someone who thrives with love
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: and everyone just needs to be loved or stop and
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: think I thought that was such a great message I
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: mean it almost brings me to tears talking about it
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: because it's so universal and makes so much sense. I mean,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: people are so harsh to not realize that you're walking
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: down the street and people are going through so much,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: even though they look like they're not. And especially with
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: now the social media we have where it's all smoke
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 1: and mirrors and people can look their best and seem
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: their best in photos. Inside, they're the ones that put
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: their heads on the pillow and are sometimes going through
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: so much. And I think just that story in particular,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure you have a million more, but was
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: just a huge eye-opener of like, people need to realize
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: that love can change someone's life and just not giving
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: up on someone who's frustrating you or isn't the same.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: That was the other message. You were like, if you're
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: not the same, embrace that because it's so beautiful as
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: opposed to feeling different.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: And it's so complicated to accept, right? Like it's so
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: complicated to accept, but it's just, there's no way around it.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: Like your differences are what make you beautiful. Like the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: things that you want to change about yourself, the things that,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: you know, maybe you got bullied about or someone broke
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: up with you over, your uniqueness, you know, it's what
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: makes you so beautiful. I was talking to a friend
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: of mine, this girl, and she's like, I really need
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: a friend to talk to. I said, you know, okay,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: which I really don't. I got to be honest. I
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: don't like being that person. I'm busy enough. But this
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 3: was a very good friend of mine. And I said, okay, yeah, well,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: you know, let's talk tonight.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: And she said, I think my boyfriend is going to
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: break up with me. And I said, what's up, you know?
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: And she said, like, he gets so embarrassed by me.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 2: I said, how so?
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: And she said, well, an example, we were walking in
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: an outdoor shopping mall yesterday and this girl had these
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: two puppies and I was like playing with them and
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 3: they were jumping on me and I was on the floor.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: And he was so embarrassed that I was on the floor.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 3: And I said, break up with this guy immediately.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: Immediately. I said, I think that that's the best thing
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: about you. That's the best thing about you.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like if I said, don't wouldn't you
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: rather have instead of changing that about yourself? Wouldn't you
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: rather have a boyfriend who would be on the floor
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: with you? Yeah.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: Right. And she was like, I never she never looked
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: at it that way. Right.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Instead of thinking of what she could add to her life,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: she was thinking about how to change her life for
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: this guy.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: And she did. She broke up with him.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: And it's like, you know, we should never change ourselves
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: based off what other people think. You know, it's it's
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: what makes you different. You know, that's that's what's so
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: hard is because. there would be way more successful people,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: not just financially, definitely financially, but also, you know, as
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 3: far as finding your purpose and all these things, if
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: we didn't let the world or people shape you, if
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: you accepted that you were different, loved that you were different,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: embraced that you were different, and then acted on your differences,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: that's your ticket to success. And again, I don't mean
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 3: that financially, I mean success in every way, love, relationship.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: You name it, you know?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: You do such a good job of showing these stories
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: in your content and these heartwarming stories. And most people
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: are sharing in tears of joy with you as they
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: watch these stories happen. But there are times when obviously
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: the animal is at the end of their life or
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: sick and does need to be put to sleep. And
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: we go on that journey with you as well. And
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: we're sharing in those tears with you as you have
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: to say goodbye to animals. What's that like for you,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: having to do that? so often.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Which part, dealing with it or sharing it for both?
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: Well, first of all, the dealing with it. I mean,
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the sharing with it, I'm assuming it helps you get
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: through it so you're not doing it by yourself almost.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: And we can talk about that. But what's that like
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: to have to care for these animals and then put
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: them to sleep? I mean, I know watching pom-poms, let's say,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: you put to sleep. And every time they leave you,
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: it must be so difficult.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: You know, now.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: I know this sounds really weird, so let me know
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: if I explained this the right way, please.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Now, I'm so.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Grateful that they're able to leave with me. You know,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 3: I used to have this like, I used to, I
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: used to be by the animal crying, you know, saying
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry and I'm, I used to tell the animal
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 3: what I wish I could have done differently. I'd tell
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: the animal I wish I had more time and I
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: would cry. And I regret every time I did that.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: Because the animal just felt this pain from me. I
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: wish I did what I do now where I tell
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: the animal everything I love about her. And I tell
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: him how amazing, just how amazing of a dog.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: They are to me and how grateful.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, I kiss them with a smile because I.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: Know, you know, I.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: Know that, like, they will feel this positive, a good feeling.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 3: It will be a beautiful passage. And By doing this,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: it's much more peaceful for me. Once the animal is gone,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: I'm bawling and crying. But during our last few moments together,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: it is nothing but joy. It's a celebration of life.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: It's a celebration of the life that this animal gave
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: to me and the celebration of life that this animal
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: has given to everyone, including the pack. And I know
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: it's hard, but for anyone listening, when you say goodbye
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: to your loved ones, do it with a beautiful sense
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: of passion and love and not sadness or regret. Make
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: sure to only grieve once they're gone. Don't grieve for
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 3: a second that they're here. And when you do grieve
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: while they're here, don't let them see it. Because they
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: don't know what you're doing. They just said that this
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 3: doesn't feel good. I sometimes reflect back on the times
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 3: where I was so emotional you know saying goodbye and
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 3: I boy oh boy do I regret those moments so
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 3: much in my life you know I didn't know any
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: better but it's really hard for me but you know
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: at this stage with how many animals we rescue I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: do realize like look you know you have 50 dogs,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: dogs are going to die. Dogs are going to get sick.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: Dogs are going to get hurt. Accidents are going to happen.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: You have 50 dogs and you just have to, you
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 3: just have to accept that death is as equal of
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: an importance to life as.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: Life itself, you know?
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: So That's right. And I think for a lot of
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: people listening who've either gone through losing a pet or
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: are dealing with making that decision on when to put
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: a pet to sleep, know that, I mean, losing a
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: pet is like worse than having a broken leg. I mean,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: it is so painful and I've lost a few pets
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: in my life and it just, I couldn't get out
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: of bed sometimes for a week because it devastated me
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: so much. Um, And it's also hard, sometimes you lose
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: a pet early on in their life and that's really
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: hard because you feel like they haven't had this big
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: life and then you also can lose a pet after
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: having it for 20 years and that's just as devastating
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: because you've spent all this time with this one animal
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: that's been in your life. And if I can just
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: indulge you for one second, one story of my animal.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: When I was about 26, I was dating a man.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: And his name was Andy. And we lived together. And
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: he forbid me to get a dog. So of course,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: on my way home every day, I would pass this
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: dog store. And this was in Manhattan. And I would
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: look at the dogs in the window. And finally, one day,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: I came home with a dog. And Andy was like,
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: are you crazy? I forbid you to get a dog.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: What are you doing? And I said, let's just try
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: this for a week. and see how it goes. And
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: if you hate it, I'll bring it back. Um, so,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I have all these pictures of Andy, you know,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: hugging the dog was a tiny little, uh, Jack Russell Terrier.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: We named it Mickey for Mickey blue eyes. And so
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: I have all these pictures of Andy hugging the dog
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: when he thought I wasn't looking like he would sleep
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: and the dog would be, you know, next to him
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: or whatever and run around with the dog and whatever.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 1: So fast forward about three weeks later, we were getting
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: ready to go to Greece. And, um, And he proposed
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: to me. And I felt like this was this great
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: family that we were going to have now. This dog.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: And he loved the dog. He let me keep the dog.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: And out of nowhere, the dog developed seizures one day.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: And it ended up, we found out it had distemper.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: It came from a dog store here in Manhattan. No
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: fucking way. Which is a horrible thing. People really should
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: be getting animals from pet stores.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: It will kill your dog.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: How long have you had the dog? I had the
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: dog for a month. And, um, he had to go
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: and put the dog to sleep and I was sobbing
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: and Andy came, you know, and met me from work.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: He worked on wall street and came, met me. Uh,
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: he left his job early and I was just sobbing.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: And he's like, Rachel, you have to realize that everything
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: happens for a reason. And I said, what, how could
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: you give me that metaphor now? Nothing happens for a reason.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: We've had this dog for a month. It didn't get
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: to have a life. And he sat me down and
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: he said, Rachel, You have to understand you loved that
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: dog more than anyone in the world could have. And
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: it thought that it's mom and we love so much.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: It didn't know that it maybe was supposed to live
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: till it was 15. It lived life and you should
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: really embrace the fact that it was loved so much
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: while you had it. And you were there for the
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: minute that it, you know.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: It died.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: So I thought, okay, well, whatever. I'll figure out at
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: one point what, how this is going to, you know,
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: come to pass that I feel like it was meant
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 1: to be. So anyways, about a week later, so Andy
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: and I went to Greece. We were leaving three days later.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: We went to Greece, we came back. And a day
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: after Andy and I got back from Greece, Andy was
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: killed in the World Trade Center.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my God.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: And, sorry.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: And so I went back and I got, I didn't
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: know what to do. And so I went back to
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: that pet store. That happened on a Tuesday. On Thursday,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: I went to the pet store and I said, my
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: dog died. My fiance was killed by terrorists. I need
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: a dog. So they let me pick out any dog
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: I wanted. And there was a, uh, um, a Brussels
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: Griffin sitting in a cage. His eyes were like looking
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 1: in different directions and he was all furry and weird looking.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: But he just, when I walked back and forth, he
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: stared at me every time I walked back. And I said,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: that's my dog. I want that dog. And I named
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: that dog Rudy Giuliani. And, um, because Rudy was such
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: a hero then, and I had the dog for 20 years.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: And through the 20 years that I had that dog,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: he was the constant man in my life, so to speak.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: He got me through everything, and I love that dog.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: But to spool back for one second, a year later,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: you know, it was kind of easy to go through
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: that trauma. Not easy, but easier to go through that
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: trauma because I went through it so publicly. And my
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: picture was on the cover of every newspaper in the
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: world because I have a famous photo of me looking
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: for Andy kind of in the– in the rubble or whatever.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: And people would check in with me and I had
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: people at my home for weeks and, you know, but
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: eventually that goes away. People go back to their lives
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: and I was alone with my thoughts and alone for
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: the first time. So a year after September 11th happened,
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: I had to take a leave of absence. I had
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: a really hard time dealing with it. And I went
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: away to kind of a sanctuary in Brazil to do
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: like a hiking trip for two weeks by myself with
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: this group. And in the middle of the night, I
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: woke up and I had this dream and I sat
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: up and I said to my roommate, oh my God,
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: I know why Mickey died. And she's like, who the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: hell's Mickey? What are we talking about? And I said,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Mickey died so Andy could be the one to teach
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: me the lesson that he wasn't supposed to live till
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: he was maybe 80 or 90, that he lived the
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: life he was supposed to live. And I shouldn't grieve
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: and be so upset and not be able to get
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: through life thinking like every time I'm in a cab, oh,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: Andy should have been sitting here. We were supposed to
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: get married on this date or I'm supposed to have
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: him as my husband and I lost out. Mickey died
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: so Andy could teach me the lesson that when someone dies,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: that's their time. And that as long as you love
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: them and felt loved by them, that, you know, that
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: was their life. And so at that moment, I was like,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: I know my purpose of why. Mickey died. So Andy
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: could teach me that story so that I could get
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: over Andy easier.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 1: So the point is, is that dogs share such a
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: big story and their death can actually mean something if
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: you look for the meaning and it might take you
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: a long time and it hurts so bad when they go,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: but it's, you know, there is a meaning behind each thing.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: I truly.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: You're so, you're so beautiful. My God.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, thank you so much for sharing that with me. I, I,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: And Rudy lived for 20 years and he was just
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: the best and putting him to sleep was also very
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: hard but.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 1: I knew, you know, at that moment that it was
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: right and I did, I'm glad you're telling me what
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: the best way to do it is because I sat
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: there and I was brave and I kind of, you know,
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: held on to him until the end and then when
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: he was put to sleep, then I lost it. But I,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm glad I had that, that lifetime with him,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: you know, I've, it's been hard for me not to
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: have a dog in my life. You know, I said,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 1: I would never want again, but I had to go
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: get another and another, you know? So I think, yeah.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: So talk about the difference really quickly, um, about why
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: people should adopt from a shelter. Um, because I think
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: so many people make the mistake of thinking they have
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: to get a dog, a purebred from a breeder or
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: from a pet store. Cause they're so beautiful in the window. Yeah.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: First of all, I mean, it's hard for me to
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: just skip over. I just want to.
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: Say like, not, you know, I think the point you,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: you have proven the point of why people go through
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 3: hard times. You have proven why people have, and many
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: people use their experiences for reasons of being, um, maybe
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 3: not the best of.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 2: People, right? Either being very negative or cruel or things
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: So for you to use your experience in such a
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: beautiful way and have such a meaningful life-changing message to
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 3: even myself, I mean, I am now going to, you know,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: adopt that belief as well, which I appreciate. And boy,
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for sharing that with me. Seriously,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: that is incredible. I did not see that story going
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: that way.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, I can't believe what I just heard. So
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: thank you so much for being vulnerable with me. I
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: really appreciate it.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Now, when I started the Asher House, it was my
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 3: following that inspired the Asher House. Not so much me.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 3: That inspired the mission, I should say. So many people
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: were asking me about my dogs, Lily, St.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Bernard. Stella, who passed away. He was this beautiful pit bull.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: She looked like she was $ 500, 000. Lily had been at
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: the shelter for a month. Stella had been at the
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: shelter for nearly four months. All of my different dogs
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: with these different stories, people are trying to buy them
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: from me on social media thinking. It hit me that
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: people don't go to animal shelters. People are too afraid
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 3: to go to animal shelters. I would have these conversations
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: And they basically, because of all the commercials you see
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: on TV, you know, where it's really sick dog, really
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: scared dog, a dog with one eye, you know, begging
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: for a donation. The shelters don't show that, the shelters
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: aren't showing 99% of the dogs. They're only showing that one,
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: that one section of the shelter that you're, that you're
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: not even allowed to go into, you know? So I
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: was like, you guys are afraid to go and shop.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: What do you think is in shelters? And they said
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: either really sick dog or really mean pit bulls.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: And I was like, no way, dude.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: So I made it my mission to show people the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: dogs that are inside shelters. And still today, on purpose,
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: I just rescued this, I mean, in my opinion, the Akita,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: to me, as far as looks go, the Akita is
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: the most beautiful dog in the world. Like, it is
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: just an exquisite animal. And I've never had one because
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: I wanted to rescue one. And just at the shelter
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: that I go to all the time, they have this amazing,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: You know, she had a broken hip. She was hit
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: by a car, but now she's fine in this beautiful Akita.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 3: And I can tell you, you know, A, if you
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: want a purebred, I just want you to know something.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: That dog most likely, it doesn't matter where you go,
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: most likely that dog, and I'm sorry to say this,
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: I'm just going to be really blunt here, okay.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 2: Is going to not have a long life. It's most
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: likely going to have a shorter lifespan than a mixed breed.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: Why is that?
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 3: Because most purebred dogs are inbreded. There are no, no
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: matter what laws you hear of, the animal like laws, welfare,
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: you know, it's not very strict. That's why we're always
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 3: getting these neglected animals that animal care won't do anything
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: about because they can't do anything about it.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: Dogs are just property. Unfortunately, it's just property.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: So when people don't care about their property, they don't
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 3: care what happens to the property as long as it's
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: making them money. And you shouldn't, it's terrible because they're
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: forcing their dogs to basically have sex and get pregnant
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: as many times as they can until they're done with
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 3: that dog. You shouldn't be supporting that in the first place.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: But if that doesn't bother you, if that's not a reason,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 3: then for your own financial purposes, of spending that kind
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 3: of money on a dog, the health risks that are
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 3: going to come with that are extreme. There's just a
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: long list of things. And as far as the smart
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: thing to do, it's not even about just the conscious,
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 3: good compassion act of rescuing. It's literally the smart thing
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 3: to do. Like it's better for the dog, but it's
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: also better for you. It's going to save you time
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 3: in the vet's office and many other things. And I
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 3: just encourage people, you know, If you can't decide whether
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: or not you should adopt or go to a breeder,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: I ask you to just for a month, it doesn't
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 3: have to be just once, for a month, every week,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 3: you know, go to two different shelters. Go to two
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: shelters a week for a month. And if there's only
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: three of them in your area, go to the same
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: ones for that month. And if you don't fall in
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: love with the dog in the next month, and if
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: you're not in a rush, please extend it to two months.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm. And if you're not in a rush, extend it
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: to three.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: But if you're like, I want a dog in the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: next three weeks, or I want a dog in the
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: next six months, then I want you to just continue
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: visiting your shelter. And I can guarantee you, you're going
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 3: to find a dog to rescue. You're going to fall
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: in love. You're going to have that. You're just going
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: to know. And you're going to find your soulmate. You're
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: going to find your dog. But you have to try.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: It's very easy to go to a breeder's website, see
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: all the cute puppies, pick one, and then you're set.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: I always encourage people, get the dog that you want.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: Don't let the rescue world bully you into any sort
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: of breed, into any sort of dog. No one's trying
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: to bully you here. I just ask you, not tell,
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: I ask you to please visit a shelter a few
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: times a month or a few times a week, whatever
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: you have time. And I think that you'll find your
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: dog there.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: That's such great advice. And also people have to realize that,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a lifelong commitment. So you should take
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: some time to really Thank you for saying that, yes.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Because so many people are just, you know, their kid says, oh,
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 1: I want a puppy, and they see a cute puppy,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: and they want it, and then, you know, it becomes
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: something that's like a doll to them, and they put
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: it to the side when they find a better toy,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: you know?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: And one thing, if I can please add, you know,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: if you are breed-specific, which means if, let's say you're
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: set on having a golden retriever, or you're set on
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 3: having an Akita, or whatever type of dog, there isn't
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 3: a breed out there that doesn't have a specific rescue group.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: Every breed has a rescue group. So if you're not
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: in a rush, which you just mentioned you shouldn't be
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 3: when you're getting an animal, get in touch with a rescue.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 3: There's a variety of them. You can have three rescues
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 3: that you.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: Build a relationship with and have them. It's their job.
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: Have them help you find this dog that you're looking for.
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 2: But be willing to get a dog. Let's say you
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: want an eight-week-old puppy. It's not going to happen. But
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: you don't really want an eight-week-old puppy. I mean, there's
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: nothing harder to take care of than a puppy. So
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: if you want a puppy, be willing to get a
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 2: five-month-old or a six-month-old dog, which is a great age
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: That way you can really already see the behavior of
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: the dog and take your time.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 2: And go to a rescue and have them help you
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: get the dog that you want.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: Right, right. A lot of these dogs have inspired creations
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: for you. I think it was Lily, I'm not sure
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: if I'm right, has helped you create your CBD line?
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just tell us about this. Well, you mentioned, which
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry to bring up, but you mentioned distemper. Luckily,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: it wasn't distemper, but Lily, you know, the fourth day
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 3: after adopting Lily, I realized that she had these awful seizures,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: and they were just getting worse. At the time, I
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: was very new to actually rescuing animals, you know, so
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: I was pretty nervous. It really freaked me out witnessing
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: a seizure. It's like a scary thing now. I've witnessed many,
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 3: but I was trying all these different things. I was
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 3: spending a lot of money that I really couldn't afford.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: It was the first time where I didn't know what
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 2: to do, where the doctors had recommended putting her down.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 3: And somebody recommended CBD to me. And CBD sometimes can
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: take a week or two to work. But with Lily,
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: it worked right away. And CBD was something that I
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: was taking for my back pain. I didn't know we
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: could give it to the dogs. This is six, seven
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: years ago. So it wasn't as popular. And she hasn't
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 3: had a seizure since. So it was something that I
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: became very passionate about. I believed in it because it
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: worked for my own dog. You know, we talked about
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: earlier about don't talk about experiences unless you experience them, right?
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: So this was for me an experience for me that
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 3: changed my dog's life. And I just wanted to share
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: it with the world. So I bought that same CBD
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 3: line and created and started my own.
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: That's amazing. All right, last couple questions here. The Asher
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: House kind of started as a short-term dream, maybe going
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: on a drive for three months or whatever, but now
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: it's turned into your career. How do you fund all
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: of this and how can people help get involved and
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: donate or donate?
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: So 100%, the only way, because there's a lot of
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 2: scammers out there, so thank you for asking, is the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: only way to donate to the Asher House is on
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: our website. There is no other place to donate. And
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: everything on theasherhouse.com is 100% non-profit. All of it.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 3: It's 100% non-profit. So if you go to theasherhouse.com, all
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 3: of the merchandise is non-profit. And of course, if you
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 3: click donate, there is a monthly option as well. And
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 3: that's all non-profit too.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 1: And is there a goal that you have every year?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Like how much does it cost you a year to
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: keep this up and running for a month?
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 3: For the, for animal sanctuary alone and the dogs, it's about,
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: I would say around.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: Seven to $ 800, 000 a year. Our bills are. Wow.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 3: So it's, it's not cheap, but you know, it's not
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 3: just dogs that let's not forget. It's that much because
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 3: we have horses, donkeys, goats.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: Alpacas, llamas, Birds, like we see your parrot behind you.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 3: We have a lot of different dogs, a lot of
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 3: different animals, and we have six, seven cats now. We're
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 3: about to be nine cats. So, you know, you think
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 3: about how much the average dog costs a month. You
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 3: multiply that by 50 as well with the space and everything.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: It's literally a fortune.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, literally. Literally. And I'm sure any donation helps. People
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: should go on the website. It's theasherhouse.com.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, theasherhouse.com.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 3: Guys, when it's that many people, what people don't realize,
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 3: even a dollar, it's like you do what you can.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 3: And what I will say, if it's not to our shelter,
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 3: excuse me, to our sanctuary, please donate to your local shelter.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 3: Please donate to your local rescue center. If you are
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 3: passionate about an animal shelter, although I really appreciate, Rachel,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: you talking about my foundation and my organization, giving is
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 3: a habit.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: So if this is.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 3: Not a habit for you and you're about to give
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 3: one time and your only time, then I'd rather you
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: give it to your local shelter. But if you are
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: looking into making giving a habit, whether it be a
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: dollar a month or $ 5 a month, then my.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Organization would be very grateful to be a part of
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: that giving.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity, because you talked about your former boss,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 1: I think he said his name was Al, who was
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: disappointed in you. Do you still talk to him now?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: What does he think of you?
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. What have you? You're so funny. I
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 2: love him so much. He loves me so much.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: He is a better mentor to me now than before.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: You know, we have a different sort of relationship now
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 3: where It's not just me asking for advice.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: It's now a friendship.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: And I have to tell you, I don't have many
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 3: people in my life, but I have him in my
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: life and he has me. And I love that guy.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 3: You know, I love him so much. Like I really,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 3: I love him, you know, and I have to tell
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: you something. He never does anything without reason. Like he
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: does everything for a reason. And I never asked him
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: this because I don't want to bring it up, but
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if he did it on purpose.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I think he.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 3: May have told me that to really light the fire
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 3: under my ass because I really needed it at the time.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 3: And I think that he taught me no one needs
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: to believe in you.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: If you believe in yourself.
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm sure he does not think you're
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  Speaker 1: stupid anymore and thinks your decision was the best one
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  Speaker 1: for you and for so many other people and animals.
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  Speaker 2: Most definitely.
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  Speaker 1: The last question I have for you is what is
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  Speaker 1: left on your bucket list that still needs to be done?
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  Speaker 1: I know you said your vision board was accomplished, but
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  Speaker 1: is there something you're looking forward to and hope to achieve?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't announced it. So this is my first
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  Speaker 3: time announcing it. So you're the first to hear it.
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  Speaker 3: We're opening up an animal shelter.
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  Speaker 2: Wow. And we're going to have, you know, it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be very similar to the layout.
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  Speaker 3: We'll be able to go there and volunteer and adopt
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  Speaker 3: the dog and adopt the cat.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be really something special. So that's the
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  Speaker 2: next step is opening up this animal shelter.
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  Speaker 1: And when is that going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I think it will be
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  Speaker 3: open and running this time next year. That would be
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  Speaker 3: my estimate.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing. So I'm sure we will all look out for
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  Speaker 1: that information. Um, so people can get involved. Um, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So tell people where they can find you, where they
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  Speaker 1: can again, donate and how people can find you on
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  Speaker 1: Instagram and on YouTube. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, it's, uh, the Asher house and there's
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  Speaker 3: no other, uh, way to get ahold.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of fake Asher house accounts. I hate
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  Speaker 2: to say it, but, um, there's.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of, you know, fake accounts that ask people
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  Speaker 3: for money. I don't answer direct messages. I don't speak
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  Speaker 3: to pretty much anyone. I don't have the time. So
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 3: if you're ever speaking to me, it's not accurate. So
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  Speaker 3: please be careful. That's the first thing I want to say.
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  Speaker 3: But all the ways to contact us, to contact our organization,
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  Speaker 3: or anything like that to donate, all.
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  Speaker 2: The information is on theacturehouse.com.
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  Speaker 1: And I think you also have nine puppies, I think
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: you said, that are coming in that you're going to
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  Speaker 1: need to adopt?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep. So next Sunday, we.
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  Speaker 3: Have six German Shepherd golden retrievers coming in, two Akita
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  Speaker 3: Husky mixes, and a Doberman. So we'll have to bring
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  Speaker 3: them in. They're coming from Texas, which Texas needs a
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 3: lot of help when it comes to animals. But we'll
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  Speaker 3: be rehabilitating them, and then they'll be available for adoption
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  Speaker 3: at our partner rescue, which is family dogs, new life
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  Speaker 3: animal shelter. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And do they have an Instagram so people can follow that?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Family dog, new life animal shelter as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. Well, thank you so much. I cannot wait
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  Speaker 1: to see where all of this takes you. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to meet you in person one day.
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  Speaker 1: And as I said to you before we started, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like part of my purpose that I found is
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 1: to tell other people's stories. It makes me feel good.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me feel great getting to meet them and, and,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: asking the questions that I want to know. And I
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: think other people would want to know too. And you literally,
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like is one of the reasons I started
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: this podcast. So I can meet you, hear your story
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  Speaker 1: and make sure that people hear your story. Cause I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: think it's so inspirational for everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I got to tell you, I, your viewers, I'm sure
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: already know it, but I've done a lot of these
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  Speaker 3: and you are the fucking best. You are so good
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 3: and so genuine and just amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Pure and beautiful.
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  Speaker 3: It's not my place to say, since you kind of
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: invited me, if you will, to give my opinion, I
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: cannot agree with you more.
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  Speaker 2: I think that that is a beautiful purpose to help
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: people tell their stories.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: Stories are what inspires people and connects people and makes
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: people feel like.
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  Speaker 2: They can relate. And I personally have never had someone
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: do it better than you. So I really, really appreciate
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: the opportunity and I look forward to doing it again
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: with you if you'll have me.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I would love to have you again. And
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: I think for anyone that feels misunderstood, they should definitely
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 1: hop on to the Asher House and really watch what
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: goes on with these animals because you will find some
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: insight into your own life. And I think it's just so,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: you know, it's gotten me through times and I'm sure
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: it'll get other people through times as well. Answer a
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: lot of questions internally for themselves.
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  Speaker 2: And I just want to remind people, I promise you,
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 2: I don't even know you, I promise you this, the
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: more misunderstood you feel, the more special you are, but
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 2: you have to use it for a force for good.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: Just remember that if it's not a force for good,
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: it's not your purpose. You're a force for good, a
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: force for beauty. And I really wish how powerful people
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: knew that you were, you know, like you really are
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: here for a reason and you could, there's no time limit.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: You could spend your whole life trying to figure that
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: out as long as you're doing goodness. Just keep doing
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: good stuff. And it's going to happen. I promise. Goodness
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: always prevails.
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  Speaker 3: Someone who's like a mother to me, Rebecca, who you
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 3: spoke to, she always says that goodness always prevails.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: And she's so right. Do the right thing. Do good.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 2: Do a good job. Do the best that you can.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 2: And it's all going to work out. And when it's
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: not working out, it's for a reason. It's because that's
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: not right for you yet. And just keep going. I promise.
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. What an amazing message.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 1: Take care. Thank you.
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