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What's On the Video — Part Three with Karmelo Anthony's Parents · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Today on Front Page, new claims from three people who
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  Speaker 1: say they personally view the video at the center of
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  Speaker 1: the Carmelo Anthony case, what they say they saw and
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  Speaker 1: why they believe the public should know about it.
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  Speaker 2: We have noticed major disparities when we look up statistically
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  Speaker 2: the sentencing structures that Judge broached sentences minorities under. There's
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  Speaker 2: at least a seventy five percent disparity in the length
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  Speaker 2: of the prison sentence when the defendant is of color.
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  Speaker 1: Then part three of my exclusives sit down with Carmelo
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  Speaker 1: Anthony's parents didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Say they could a spotlight on the boys, right, so
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  Speaker 3: you can see them right, but they never put a
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  Speaker 3: spotlight on Carmelo.
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  Speaker 1: It's Tuesday, June sixteenth, from the Black Effect Podcast network.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Meanie Brown. This is Front Page. Stay with me.
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  Speaker 1: On this episode, we're going to hear from three people
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  Speaker 1: who say they personally viewed the video evidence from the
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  Speaker 1: fatal encounter involving Carmelo Anthony and Austin Metcalf. They held
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  Speaker 1: a press conference offering their own accounts of what they
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  Speaker 1: say the footage shows, and the video has not been
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  Speaker 1: released publicly, but the group says they formally requested access
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  Speaker 1: and they were allowed to view it. Here's some of
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  Speaker 1: what they say the video shows.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so again, my name is Tony Starvint. I was
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  Speaker 4: one of the individuals that put in a FOURD request
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  Speaker 4: to see the video. What I saw was starkly different
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  Speaker 4: from the testimony that I heard given in the trial.
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  Speaker 4: There were six kids that walked up too, splintered off.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that part of was introduced in the trial
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  Speaker 4: where they went to deflect the coach. The other four
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  Speaker 4: walked directly to Carmelo Anthony. There was a brief conversation
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  Speaker 4: I say, maybe twenty thirty seconds, and from there a
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  Speaker 4: scuffle ensued. It didn't last long. Carmelo backed out the
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  Speaker 4: back of the canopy. He looked one way, looked to
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  Speaker 4: the left, and flew down those bleachers. Now, this is
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  Speaker 4: the video that was presented us. This is the question
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  Speaker 4: that I have though, why wasn't that video presented in court?
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  Speaker 4: And is it the true video? Because again, it's starkly
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  Speaker 4: different from the testimony given in the trial. Carmelo Anthony
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  Speaker 4: flew down those bleachers, fell at the bottom of the bleachers,
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  Speaker 4: got up, took off. It was maybe two or three
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  Speaker 4: kids that you can see kind of gift chase, but
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  Speaker 4: Carmela was gone, so they weren't even gonna put a
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  Speaker 4: put a finger on them and touch him again. There
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  Speaker 4: was a scuffle that that isssued at the top of
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  Speaker 4: the bleachers and Carmela got it there. But I don't
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  Speaker 4: know why that was not brought up in court. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know why that was shown. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: the is ISD gave us a bogus ass video. I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, but that's that's what I saw.
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  Speaker 5: Hello, everybody, I'm an advocate for Carmelo Anthony. My name
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  Speaker 5: is And when I went to see the video, they
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  Speaker 5: ask if you want to see it from either two
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  Speaker 5: minutes before the stabbing or eleven minutes before, so I
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  Speaker 5: chose eleven minutes from the moment she pressed play. Carmelo
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  Speaker 5: Anthony was already sitting underneath that canopy and he was
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  Speaker 5: sitting there for at least eight to nine and a
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  Speaker 5: half minutes. You see, well, I saw a boy in
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  Speaker 5: a black hoodie go over to him first, and then
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  Speaker 5: they left out of the tent, and then you see
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  Speaker 5: coming across the field was another six boys. When they
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  Speaker 5: got to the bleachers, one he went out of frame,
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  Speaker 5: and the other one sat at the bottom. But the
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  Speaker 5: remaining four they went directly to Carmelo Anthony, and like
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  Speaker 5: he said before, it was a brief conversation. And then
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  Speaker 5: all you see is commotion. And we know from the
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  Speaker 5: interviews that Hunter did. We know that Hunter was in
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  Speaker 5: fact of underneath that tent. The next thing you see,
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. You can see Carmelo in the midst of
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  Speaker 5: them assaulting him. You can see Carmelo trying to back out,
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  Speaker 5: but he gets pulled back forward. The next thing you
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  Speaker 5: see is Carmelo he comes shooting out the back, but
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  Speaker 5: he's still not standing and he had to like kind
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  Speaker 5: of crap crawl backwards, and he had to like jerk
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  Speaker 5: away from them because they still had a hold of
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  Speaker 5: his hoodie. He goes up a couple of bleachers and
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  Speaker 5: he's looking around for which way to go. He runs
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  Speaker 5: diagonally down the bleachers and then he falls. At the
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  Speaker 5: time of him falling, that's when I noticed another three
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  Speaker 5: boys coming down the bleachers chasing after him. But once
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  Speaker 5: Carmelo got up, he took off. You didn't see him
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  Speaker 5: for the rest of the video. At no point in
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  Speaker 5: that video do you see Hunter holding his brother, and
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  Speaker 5: no point in that video do you see those boys
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  Speaker 5: ever going back to the tent and sitting down. That
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  Speaker 5: was all a lie. And I also have questions. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know how the defense did not play that video
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  Speaker 5: because when you see that video, it was self defense.
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  Speaker 5: Carmelo was only five eight one hundred and thirty something
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  Speaker 5: pounds and Austin Hunter Metcalf were six to one two
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  Speaker 5: hundred and twenty something pounds. So for people to say
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  Speaker 5: that he should have used his hands, people can die
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  Speaker 5: from fights from people using their hands. And that's all
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say for right now.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Christopher King.
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  Speaker 6: Actually was a licensed attorney in Collin County several years
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  Speaker 6: ago working with the City of Brisco on a certain project.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm Christopher King. My handle is king cast online.
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  Speaker 6: I'm also a journalist and I have a couple things
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  Speaker 6: for you Briefly today, I have filed my request for
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  Speaker 6: all exhibits used that trial. We'll see how that turns out.
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  Speaker 6: I mailed it in before with the self just stam donvelope,
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  Speaker 6: didn't get a response, so I figured I'd fly out
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  Speaker 6: here at Violet in person this time so as to
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  Speaker 6: this trial what I see as an attorney, I saw
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  Speaker 6: what I believed to be male practice, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: know why it happened, but I will tell you a
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  Speaker 6: couple of quick reference points. Number One, he allowed those
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  Speaker 6: students to young people, not professional people, to testify as
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  Speaker 6: to ultimate issues of fact such as was it murder
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  Speaker 6: or not? Yes, you know, was the provacation come Ilo
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  Speaker 6: provoked him? That's not how it works. You have to
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  Speaker 6: make them elocute as to what Carmelo did to allege
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  Speaker 6: to the provoke a situation. That's how it works. And
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  Speaker 6: when you don't object to it and the case is
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  Speaker 6: in chief, you cannot come back later post talk and
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  Speaker 6: then ask the judge and complain about it in a
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  Speaker 6: jury charge. There was also there were also no expert
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  Speaker 6: witnesses produced, no use of force expert, no no jury,
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  Speaker 6: no jury professional consultant was there that I know of. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: So these are all very serious questions on this case,
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  Speaker 6: and I don't understand it, but I don't like it,
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  Speaker 6: and I think this is the proverbial travesty of justice
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  Speaker 6: that we have just witnessed here, and there needs to
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  Speaker 6: be an investigation. It's not right, which is not right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So keep in mind what you just heard, because
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  Speaker 1: in part three of my exclusive sit down with Carmelo
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  Speaker 1: Anthony's parents, they share their own perspective of what they
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  Speaker 1: say the video shows. If you miss parts one and two,
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  Speaker 1: go back to Friday and Monday. But here's part three.
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  Speaker 3: The evidence shows he jumped three bleaches to get to him.
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  Speaker 1: The jury here that information, and is that information on
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  Speaker 1: the video? That's on the video, and they had they
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  Speaker 1: made their minds made up.
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  Speaker 3: Their mind was made up, made up three three bleaches,
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  Speaker 3: some say one, some said three, some side five. They
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  Speaker 3: all their statements was inconsistent every.
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  Speaker 1: Because we haven't seen that video. What did that video show?
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  Speaker 3: The video showed honestly, you can show that. You can
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  Speaker 3: see him coming into the tent, sitting down, and then
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  Speaker 3: it's like it started getting a little like you can
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  Speaker 3: tell people, but you know we're experts. Let me tell
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  Speaker 3: you what da did. They put a spotlight on the boys, right,
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  Speaker 3: so you can see them right, but they never put
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  Speaker 3: a spotlight on Kamalok. And the reason why is because
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  Speaker 3: of course they were trying to make their side look like,
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  Speaker 3: oh he it wasn't it wasn't that bag or pushed
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  Speaker 3: the whole the whole thing move. Even the guy EP
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  Speaker 3: said in his statement it was so bad to it
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  Speaker 3: pushed him out the way because it's been pretty pretty
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  Speaker 3: big kids, real big big than me actually, So it's
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  Speaker 3: like they tried to minimize their doing. But I've heard
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  Speaker 3: people who would supposed to be just as if in Texas,
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  Speaker 3: if I threaten you when I'm lying, you have the
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  Speaker 3: right to do whatever for us. If you feel for
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  Speaker 3: your life, no, he said, if you feel for your
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  Speaker 3: life or seriously body home. Yeah. Oh, they'll train judicial
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  Speaker 3: fighters too.
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  Speaker 1: And so the video that you all uh that they
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  Speaker 1: short showed in court, it shows him running away from.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he ran to a teacher. The teacher said that
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  Speaker 3: the teacher he ran to. He ran to a guy,
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  Speaker 3: and the teacher he ran to, Actually he hugged him,
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  Speaker 3: because Kamelo, he's not likely. He hugged the guy like
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  Speaker 3: he was freaking out. He hugged the guy. So the
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  Speaker 3: guy was they was hugging. He was crying hysterically, and
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  Speaker 3: they tried to paint it as if he was trying
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  Speaker 3: to leave. But court, they shouldn't have said it that
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  Speaker 3: he wasn't leading.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now did this teacher testify yes.
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  Speaker 3: And he also said he had to stop another kid
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  Speaker 3: from jumping on camelo, which was guess what supposed to have
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  Speaker 3: been a person that was his friend, the guy who, hey, man,
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  Speaker 3: come on, look hey, if you've been to high school,
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  Speaker 3: think about that, the guy that told you to come
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  Speaker 3: over here you're sitting down. The same person who could
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  Speaker 3: have de escalated the whole thing. He was trying to
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  Speaker 3: go after him. And that's the same guy that was
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  Speaker 3: playing like he was video but they couldn't find a
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  Speaker 3: video he was. The police didn't really even try to
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  Speaker 3: go through his phone. He would look for the video.
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  Speaker 3: So he played. He said he was acting as if
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  Speaker 3: he was.
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  Speaker 1: Recording now when he was running. Was this before or
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  Speaker 1: after the incident?
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  Speaker 3: Happened after the incident.
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  Speaker 1: This is after the incident.
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  Speaker 3: That's why they came up with the narrative that.
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  Speaker 1: He was running.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he threw the he threw the knife. When he
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  Speaker 3: threw he didn't throw the knife. His hand was cut.
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  Speaker 3: So it's a lot that when you if you the
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  Speaker 3: video showed, if you ever been on high school bleaches,
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  Speaker 3: you're not almost stad you know how you try to
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  Speaker 3: imagine trying to run up he failed, So what you
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  Speaker 3: think failed? He only went up. They caught it in
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  Speaker 3: three bleaches. It was like three bleaches up. It was
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  Speaker 3: three bleaches up. So you see you can see him
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  Speaker 3: get up. You could tell he dropped it. Then he
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  Speaker 3: stood up. He didn't know where to go. Did he
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  Speaker 3: ran down fail? And they was coming after him? He
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  Speaker 3: ran alroong and ran to a coach.
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  Speaker 1: Did the video show the altercation of them and putting
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  Speaker 1: him first and then the confrontation? Okay, okay, okay. Did
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  Speaker 1: you talk to your defense attorney about any of these
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  Speaker 1: concerns that you had as the trial was playing out
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  Speaker 1: or even now that the trial is over.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm actually praying that somebody's sending somebody that
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  Speaker 3: we get sent somebody that could help us. It's kind
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  Speaker 3: of like I'm still right now in shock. So I'm
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  Speaker 3: just moving on and drilling right now.
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  Speaker 1: So you're looking for a new defense attorney for future appeal? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And did your defense attorneys say anything about how he
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  Speaker 1: feels so they feel the case went? M hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say they gave us the corporate answer.
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  Speaker 1: And did Carmelo want to testify in his own on
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  Speaker 1: his own behalf? And was the vibe.
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  Speaker 3: It was based on everything. He didn't need nothing because
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  Speaker 3: everything they said when his self defense, they have to
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  Speaker 3: prove it, they never proved.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So that was never that was because I know
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  Speaker 1: there was this pause and a lot of people thought that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, we were going to come back and he
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  Speaker 1: was going to take the stand, and he didn't. So
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  Speaker 1: that was never an option that had never been discussed
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  Speaker 1: of him taking the stand.
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  Speaker 3: That's why we just needed a knew it. We need
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  Speaker 3: we need somebody who's going to fight. That's what I
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  Speaker 3: can say right now. We didn't need somebody on a
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  Speaker 3: fight form because the whole thing was he provoked it.
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  Speaker 3: That was their whole their entire case. He provoked it.
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  Speaker 3: That's that's uh, that's what the whole thing was.
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  Speaker 1: What do you want the world to know about who
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  Speaker 1: Carmelo is and what your family is going through right now?
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  Speaker 3: Going through hell doesn't feel real. We feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: just don't feel real. He's a good kid. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: the receipts show that he wasn't a wii N. We
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  Speaker 3: we as adults, we're not helping with the y ns
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  Speaker 3: and I can know we could look at the tragedy
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  Speaker 3: that having, but it was about the law. The law
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  Speaker 3: posed to cover us. So anybody who feels any way
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  Speaker 3: different honestly feel like, I mean, it's okay when to death,
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  Speaker 3: as long as that devil don't knock at your door.
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  Speaker 3: Because I was clue is like that too. Hey man,
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  Speaker 3: it never happened. It would never happen to me. It
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  Speaker 3: would never never happen to us, because you know, we
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  Speaker 3: stayed in our lane. We were nice neighborhood, We were
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  Speaker 3: doing good. But these people basically made it there. We
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  Speaker 3: had just had comments to what people say, Yeah, we
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  Speaker 3: send y'all back to the hood, were sending y'all. Y'all
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  Speaker 3: don't deserve that. Y'all don't deserve what y'all have. He
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  Speaker 3: said it in court yesterday. Forgot. He said that they
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  Speaker 3: told my son to look at me when I'm talking
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  Speaker 3: to who said that? The dad, the son, both of
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  Speaker 3: them said look at me while while we talked to
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  Speaker 3: me like it's gonna come out. They said, look at
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  Speaker 3: me while we talked what.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the dad Metcalt father said that Carmelo and son.
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  Speaker 3: The son came out. The son came out here. Mister,
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  Speaker 3: I don't understand for the impact statement. You know too two,
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  Speaker 3: but he didn't want to get understanding.
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  Speaker 1: Has played out. Is there anything that you both wish
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  Speaker 1: you could have done differently?
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  Speaker 3: I wish I would have been just been rebellious and
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  Speaker 3: just do what I was told. Don't talk to this person.
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  Speaker 3: Don't talk to this person. I feel like it was
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  Speaker 3: just a setup. Now. Like like I said, they told us,
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  Speaker 3: go get i'm white attorneys. Every black person. I went
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  Speaker 3: to white attorney. No white attorney said I'm gonna push them. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: here you go. I mean, no objections. It wasn't. It wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: It was things mooth because as a father of me
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  Speaker 3: being who I am, I got to make sure she's straight.
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  Speaker 3: This Mama bell, I got to make sure she's straight
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  Speaker 3: mentally because if she's not straight my house and straight,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not straight then because I got the kids that
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  Speaker 3: the kids that were about. Got to make sure his
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  Speaker 3: mental health. I can't go back and forth with him
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  Speaker 3: right then that because his I don't think his mental
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  Speaker 3: can handle it. The misunderstanding what Dad's trying to take.
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  Speaker 3: This ain't a daddy moment. You understand what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: It's not. It's not the time for mere arguing with
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  Speaker 3: you about hey, you know some i'thing. Hey, son, can
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  Speaker 3: you hey, can you see? Can you see? Can you see? Uh?
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  Speaker 3: People say, well, I would have done this, so I
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  Speaker 3: would have done that. You say that because you're not
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  Speaker 3: in that situation. So I couldn't do that. And me
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  Speaker 3: knowing my son, which is you know your child correct,
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  Speaker 3: you see, I don't. I don't want him to maybe
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  Speaker 3: want to hurt himself because I don't know what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: He's doing a great job. He's still in school. I'm
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  Speaker 3: keeping him busy. We're trying to do stuff around the house.
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  Speaker 3: And one thing, this this thing did do with us
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  Speaker 3: and brought our family closer when.
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  Speaker 1: The verdict came down. What was the first thought that
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  Speaker 1: went through your head?
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  Speaker 3: I felt, my son, h I was I felt like man,
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  Speaker 3: I felt I cried so much. I have held back
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  Speaker 3: and I told her, man, you know, I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: let dad like hold it up, you know, hold it
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  Speaker 3: up to be tight. I said, boy, you broke me.
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  Speaker 3: He broke me in the first half. I never cried
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  Speaker 3: as much as I've cried. And when that when they
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  Speaker 3: it was just like when I seen him when he
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  Speaker 3: grabbed it. I could still picture that man what he
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  Speaker 3: was saying, and he said, it's so smooth the way
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  Speaker 3: he read that verdict. It was like, you know, just yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 3: yeah as such and such, Yeah he's found guilty. It
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  Speaker 3: was just then. They also said, well, we were told
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  Speaker 3: not to look at the family, but they said that
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  Speaker 3: the dad was actually giving the witnesses different signs like
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  Speaker 3: doing do this, like telling them giving him masters. And
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  Speaker 3: I told my joy like, yeah, we know, we know,
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  Speaker 3: we know the hell you mean, you know, but ident
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  Speaker 3: if I act up, I'm the emotional black man. You
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  Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying, Oh, look at him, then it
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  Speaker 3: would have been on breaking news. Oh he done flashed
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  Speaker 3: out or look out that's look. That's how they added
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  Speaker 3: we got him. So I had to humble myself. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't just for me and my family. It was for
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  Speaker 3: all of us, because if I would have flashed out
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  Speaker 3: the way I wanted to, oh, it would have been
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  Speaker 3: all that. You'll probably be looking at that God damn it.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody went up after the food. That's what they wanted.
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  Speaker 3: So I played their game, and I'm just let you know.
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  Speaker 3: Their game don't work. It's not for us. The justices
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  Speaker 3: is not for it. They can't say we get anything
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  Speaker 3: out of the out of the out of the out
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  Speaker 3: of what was told. We followed all the instructions and
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: we follow the law. It just don't work for us.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: What do you say to the people who say that's.
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: He's calling now.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: That's part three of my conversation with Carmelo Anthony's parents.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you to the family for sharing your story with me.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: We're going to keep watching this case, the video, the appeal,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: all of it. That's your front page. I mean me Brown.
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