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Rebranding to SPSN, Training Camp Insights, and Kyler Murray's Future · Scene Projects Sports Network

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  Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
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  I am your host, Bubba Starts.
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  You are here tonight for the SPSN tailgate show.
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  Little bit of a rebrand here as we got calls from the Vikings lawyers and decided that it
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  was better not to fight a billion dollar franchise and just adjust our tone.
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  This is your training camp preview tonight.
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  I'm flying solo for a little bit here.
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  Coach Cody is gonna join us later.
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  Hopefully, my guy, r a p, is gonna get a chance.
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  I know he's live on his channel right now.
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  So much to get to.
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  Training camp is upon us.
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  I know we've all been waiting for this moment.
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  It's been a long, you know, especially for us Vikings fans, six months or so without
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  football, and it's nice to get back in here now and really get fired up for this season ahead.
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  It's been a long time since I've been in with y'all.
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  I I really appreciate everybody sticking with us.
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  I hope you enjoyed your break.
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  I haven't been on this program specifically in quite a while, and it was a nice little break.
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  I hope you all had a great time after Father's Day and OTAs finishing up.
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  This little lull in between now has finally come to an end, and we are here now celebrating
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  football.
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  Once again, training camp getting ready to start.
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  Nolan Teasley, Kevin O'Connell speaking earlier today.
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  Really, I don't know that there's much in there necessarily in, you know, the press conference
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  that we didn't already know.
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  I thought there were some pretty interesting comments.
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  Listening to KOC, especially talk about the quarterback position, obviously, that's gonna
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  be a hot topic of discussion for the next, I would say, probably seven to ten days.
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  But, yeah, you guys jump in the comments.
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  Let me know you're tuning in, where you're tuning in from.
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  We really appreciate everybody being with us.
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  Shout out your city in the chat.
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  Appreciate everybody, especially in this first, you know, twenty, thirty minutes of the show,
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  kind of flying solo.
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  It's just gonna be me flapping my gums.
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  So love to see you guys in the comments.
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  We can go back and forth on some hot topics.
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  What did you guys think?
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  I know most of you have probably watched the presser by now.
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  Anything telling from that that you thought was interesting?
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  Shout out to y'all tuning in with us.
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  So ready for some football.
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  Let's get to the games already.
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  Right?
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  I know they even started practicing, but, man, I'm ready for this.
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  Putting roofs on people's houses.
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  Right?
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  Putting roofs over people's head.
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  All summer, there's been a a lot of a lot of storms.
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  I know they just had some big ones out there in Wisconsin.
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  And while during the season, we got no love for the people that rep the green and gold, right
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  now, our hearts go out to people around the Appleton, Wisconsin area with those major
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  tornadoes going through last night.
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  Some really crazy footage that I saw today and, you know, always always got love for football
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  fans around the world.
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  It's not just, you know, Vikings fans here.
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  It is everybody.
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  If you love football, then we love you and excited to get into it tonight.
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  So we're definitely gonna cover the Jamal Adams signing.
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  Brian O'Neil just got a big contract resigning.
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  Glad that they got that done, and it didn't drag out any further.
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  We're gonna talk about the presser.
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  We're gonna get a wrap and Cody's thoughts on those, and, we're gonna talk about how excited
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  we are to watch this QB battle kind of unfold over the course of the next couple of weeks.
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  Before we do anything, I'm gonna go ahead and roll a, quick ad so I can get this out of the
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  You guys jump in the chat.
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  I I wanna know what you're most looking forward to for the, you know, for the training camp
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  Like I said, huge shout out to Odyssey Exteriors sponsor and everything, that we do
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  here with the SPSN tailgate show.
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  We got some great stuff, coming at you this football season.
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  Skullfest happening September 12.
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  Really excited to get together with that whole crew.
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  It's gonna be a really amazing day.
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  That'll be at the Crooked Pint.
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  The tickets go on sale in just a couple of days, guys.
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  So make sure you're getting your tickets in there, hoping that the, Odyssey Interiors can
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  be a part of that as well as we're really excited to go.
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  We're gonna be doing a live show right from Skullfest.
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  Obviously, VocalVyke channel, Purple Pocket podcast.
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  Our guy r a p gonna be there.
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  His whole crew, SK, and and all these guys that we've really had an opportunity to get with
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  over the last a couple of months, really.
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  Building that relationship with other Vikings creators has been an awesome time.
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  And now we get to kinda bring our vibe into the room.
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  We get to be in the building with everybody.
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  We're gonna do a live show straight from Skullfest, kinda let everybody dig into the
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  vibe a little bit, get a little bit of FOMO for those of you chilling at home for what we're
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  bringing to the table.
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  And then we're gonna hang out with everybody and celebrate this Viking seasons that to come.
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  Obviously, the home opener happening, season opener on September 13, we're all fired up
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  about.
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  But tonight, we're gonna talk about training camp and the preview for training camp here.
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  Personally, me, I'm excited to see what this defense is looking like.
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  I'm really fired up to to get on and see what B Flow has.
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  A lot of young guys on this on this team, new draft picks, new players, new signings on here.
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  Is Harrison Smith gonna be back?
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  I think a lot of us believe that he will be at some point, hopefully, here during training
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  camp, I think, would be my my hopes that he gets in here and he doesn't have to go full
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  bore right away.
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  We kinda know what the the Wiley vet is bringing to the table, but we are really
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  grateful to I'm really grateful to have my guy, Pods, joining me.
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  Dealt with some technical difficulties with his vehicle earlier.
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  I'm sure he's gonna be a sweaty mess after being on the side of the road.
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  But, Pods, brother, I appreciate you, man.
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  I'm dying out here alone.
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  I figured I'd come in here and die with you a little bit.
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  Yeah, man.
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  Well, sorry to hear about the blown tire out on the highway.
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  I bet it was a 130 degrees standing over, getting that done.
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  But, man, I'm happy
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  Sweating like a hog, brother.
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  So I It was all good.
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  Degrees right now in my studio.
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  I have my feet on a cold jug of water.
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  This is my AC in here.
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  So I've had this in the fridge.
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  So now I'm just wrapping my feet around it.
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  It's helping to keep the core temp down a little bit.
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  Quite literally watering the base of the tree.
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  There we go.
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  Exactly.
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  Exactly, man.
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  So happy to have
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  you in here, pods.
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  We're just kinda getting our training camp preview show tonight.
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  Cody will be joining us later.
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  RAP's got the link from the vocal bike podcast as well.
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  My wife's laughing at me, but you gotta do what you gotta do, honey.
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  What and kind of what I asked the chat just to start off with is with this Vikings team, like,
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  what are you most excited about for these few weeks of training camp?
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  What excites you the most about, you know, leading into this week?
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  Is it the QB battle?
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  Is it the new defense?
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  You know, for you, pods, what is it?
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  Me, personally, because, obviously, it's still training, you know, this training camp.
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  I'm looking forward, at least as far as the Vikings go.
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  I'd really like to see how the defense goes.
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  What's up, Jeremy?
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  I wanna see how this defense goes because now that you have Jamal Adams back there too as a
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  veteran safety and presence in on that defense as well, I wonder, you know, what kind of
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  coverages b flow is gonna put him in, what kind of packages he's gonna be in.
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  And this is a good time for him to show up and get a couple reps in the preseason.
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  I expect Adams is probably gonna get a couple more reps in the preseason than a normal
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  starter would, just for the fact so he can learn the playbook.
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  Well and I think a lot of people were assuming that this kinda signaled the Harrison Smith not
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  coming back.
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  And for me, it wasn't that as all, especially when you think about the fact that for the last
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  few season, Jamal Adams has played a lot more at that, like, outside linebacker position.
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  And for most of his career, he's kinda been a blitzing safety.
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  So I don't necessarily believe that this signals anything to
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  do all.
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  Specialist when it comes to run stopping.
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  Well and and really, he's a perfect fit for a b flow defense.
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  Right?
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  To come in and to be a guy you don't have to play every snap.
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  You're gonna be a rotational piece in that backside and, you know, part of an eight man
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  front at times and part of these, you know, exotic fronts that you like to show and being
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  someone that's proven throughout their career that they know how to get to the quarterback.
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  Because just having speed isn't enough in the NFL to actually get
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  some more money
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  and bring them down.
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  Gotta have some finesse.
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  And I also think I too
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  I think that it's it's a little bit of something else.
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  Being able to show something at the line and to get those, you know, these offensive linemen I
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  mean, these guys are six eight, three hundred and sixty pounds.
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  You you're not gonna be able to go through them when you're Jamal Adams' size.
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  Right?
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  And you're not always gonna be able to get around someone that has a nine foot wingspan.
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  Right?
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  So you have to be able to kinda show something at the line of scrimmage early and then to be
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  able to get them a little off balance so that you can get that free lane because that's
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  really what's needed now.
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  These quarterbacks are so fast at processing.
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  You need that free rush where you're getting to the quarterback in less than two seconds.
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  Absolutely.
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  But I think the the most important part, though, about this signing in particular is the
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  fact that you have another guy in there that can mentor these young rookies, these young
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  first and second year, maybe they're in their in their third year, you know, in the league,
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  and you have a guy like Jamal Adams who can sit down with these guys and be like, look.
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  This is how we're gonna get you up to speed.
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  This is how we're gonna gel.
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  You know, I'm gonna try and just like the coaching staff, I'm gonna try and put you in
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  the best position possible to succeed as well.
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  Well, and what's kind of interesting is that Jamal Adams is a little bit of the same
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  prototype that you got with a Jacoby Thomas.
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  Right?
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  So you have a player in his tenth year now coming in with a player in his rookie season
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  that he can probably look at the young man, and he's gonna watch
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  And mold them.
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  That field is gonna be like you know, he's gonna be like, that that was me.
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  You were me ten years ago.
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  I'm gonna give you those tips.
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  And I wonder if that didn't lean into the signing as well.
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  Obviously, he has, you know, speaking of Adams, relationship with Nolan Teasley from his time
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  in Seattle.
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  So is there's that there?
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  And, I mean, the guy's been around the league for a decade.
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  Right?
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  So everybody knows his name.
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  I I think this Vikings defense, Beefalo especially, gotta be super excited to get this
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  guy in and not as an addition, you know, right before the season starts, but to have him right
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  at the beginning of camp so we can impart a little bit of that wisdom right now when I
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  think it matters the most.
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  Right.
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  Because getting these guys these early season reps and just getting them to see it in live
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  play, and then him being able to point out, like, hey.
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  This is what I would do here.
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  This is what your skill set looks like.
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  Your coach has told you this, but you can use this move to get around these guys quicker, or
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  maybe you can use a faint here and then, you know, plug the gap.
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  Like, it's it's all process stuff.
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  And I think having a guy like Jamal Adams who's been through that process, who's been through
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  many, you know, defensive coaches and coordinators who knows these systems, he's
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  almost like having a coach on the field.
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  Right.
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  And then you add in the possibility of Harrison Smith coming on who is not just another player.
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  He's been a general of this defense with B Flow out there as an extension almost of the
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  coaching staff and the play caller that the prospect of of him coming in, whether it's, you
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  know, here soon or it is coming in, you know, midway through the season even, he's gonna give
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  this team a boost at any point.
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  So
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  What is the update on him so far?
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  Nothing.
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  And and at the presser today, they addressed it.
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  Obviously, they were asked about Harrison Smith, and, you know, KOC pretty much alluded
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  to, like, when we know something, you'll know Danielle got her little cameo putting some of
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  the leftovers in the fridge out here away.
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  Love you, honey.
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  Okay.
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  Okay.
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  I just I'm just curious.
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  So he's such a big piece of that defense.
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  So not to hear anything and we're, you know, approaching preseason.
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  It's just like, man, what's going on?
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  Is it an injury?
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  Is it or is it contract discussions?
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  I I don't know.
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  I I don't like, I feel like if he was gonna retire, he would have just come out and done it
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  right away.
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  Right?
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  Just done it.
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  I think he still wants to play.
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  I think it is a matter of the timing.
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  I I don't think that he wants to go through a whole training camp.
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  And if he signed, the expectation would be that he would be there, right, and going through it
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  all grueling.
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  I think you get to the point where, you know, we're two weeks in and kinda through the worst
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  of it, and then you get the signing.
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  He's able to come in kind of with the walkthroughs in the last couple of games.
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  He's not gonna play in the preseason, I wouldn't imagine.
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  Maybe he gets a series or something just to get that No.
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  Because he missed that last year.
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  Right?
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  With the injury to Personally season, and then it took him a few games to kinda catch up
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  with that game.
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  Personally, I feel like they need to get rid of the preseason.
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  It serves no purpose.
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  Two what are they at?
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  Three games now?
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  I think two is probably two is probably enough to get your reps, but they're so important for
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  those bottom of the roster guys.
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  You hate to have them take more of that away.
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  I I think you do need the preseason.
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  I don't think that you can take away all of it, but it's I would like to see them I don't know
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  that I had even said that I'd like to, but they're not gonna start the season any earlier
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  because it's too damn hot already.
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  Right?
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  And you can't really be keep pushing it back and pushing it back and pushing it back, you
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  know, as far as the season goes.
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  Right?
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  We're already playing into the second week of January before the playoffs even start.
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  So you really I think maybe a second playoff or a second preseason game, two preseason games,
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  you extend training camp, and then that maybe gives teams a little bit more of those what,
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  KOC talked about a lot today too, was those joint practices.
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  Right?
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  Maybe you're able to get two rounds of joint practices that callous the teams a little bit
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  more playing against another team, but you're doing it in more of a controlled environment.
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  Maybe that's something that gets out there.
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  But Well, what I mean with preseason is just get rid of the televised stuff and just have
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  the because what you know what we used to do in Pop Warner and high school football?
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  We used to just run scrimmages against other teams in the off season, like, right leading
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  up.
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  There was no television for that.
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  There was no recordings of that except from the coaches.
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  Like, maybe what they need to do is just have two games with the guys that they don't know,
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  you know, that are gonna make the roster or go to the practice squad and just have those via
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  scrimmages.
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  It doesn't need to be on television.
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  You know?
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  Yeah.
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  See.
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  And that's where the rights holders and all these people get involved because that's money,
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  and you're not talking about chump change here.
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  You know, it's not pocket change.
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  It it is serious dollars that are exchanging hands for these.
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  But with everything changing, as far as that goes, right, Amazon and Netflix now getting
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  heavily involved and, you know, Peacock and all these streaming networks, it's just different.
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  Right?
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  It's not the old networks that it used to be.
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  The entire media landscape is changing.
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  Hell, one day maybe SPSN gets a gets a preseason game.
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  Right?
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  Who who knows where we grow and where the NFL goes with all of this stuff?
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  But I think you're right.
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  You know, it's probably getting written into a lot of contracts, and maybe it's not coming out
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  publicly.
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  But guys are like, look.
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  I'm not I'm not playing more than 20 snaps in the preseason because you can't afford an
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  injury.
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  Right?
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  If you're injured, you're not
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  Reggie Wayne.
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  Reggie Wayne, twenty fifteen.
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  Noncontact tore his ACL never was the same.
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  Edelman.
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  To lose that money from that season and being injured, but lost a lot of money in his career
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  from all of that.
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  So I I I don't think that you're wrong about where the legal go.
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  It's been obvious.
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  Right?
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  They've cut back the preseason.
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  They've extended the regular season.
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  I think they should make the preseason into something for Netflix or Amazon.
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  Could make it in you know how, like, they have they have hard knocks.
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  Right?
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  Well, maybe they could do, like, a hard knock special and stuff.
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  Instead of one team, have two teams, and then follow those teams, and you can watch, like,
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  the scrimmage for those teams.
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  I would
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  be surprised if
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  don't see more of that kind of content really soon because I think it's I think it's great
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  stuff.
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  Now I don't know if there was contract signed with it's HBO, right, that does the Hard Knock
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  series?
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  I wanna say so.
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  So it's probably Max.
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  So I don't I don't know what those contracts look like.
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  Right?
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  If they had a ten or a fifth you know, a a five to ten year deal on that.
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  Or what was the oh, hey, Scotland.
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  But we have I think people love that content.
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  Right?
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  And I don't think that teams and coaches love it as much as, you know, and front offices love
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  it as much as us as fans do, but I think you're gonna see more of it.
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  And I think when teams get to the point where they all have their similar to what you're
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  seeing in baseball a lot.
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  Right?
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  The cubs have marquee, and the yankees have their own network, and a lot of these teams
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  have their own things going on that maybe you see more of that kind of stuff.
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  The bears have a a pretty good media, you know, department on their side, and they kinda do
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  that.
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  I I forget the name of the I I think it's, you know, 1800 Hallis Drive or something, which is
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  the address for their practice.
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  They do have a surprisingly well done media conglomerate that they do their stuff through.
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  Well, you're one
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  of the big three major markets.
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  You kinda have to.
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  Minneapolis, not as much.
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  Right?
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  You're kind of in you're still in the big 10 markets.
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  Right?
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  The the biggest in, you know, 10 in the country, but you're not one of those marquee,
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  you know, franchises as much as, you know, we love this team.
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  It's just the reality.
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  Right?
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  Minneapolis is a smaller city.
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  The fan base, a while passionate
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  Okay.
• 22:01
  Hold on.
• 22:01
  Hold on.
• 22:01
  As big.
• 22:03
  I don't wanna say this to offend any Vikings fans.
• 22:05
  Okay?
• 22:06
  But it has to be said, kinda piggybacking on what you've just said, they're not Green Bay,
• 22:14
  and they're not Chicago.
• 22:18
  Green Bay and Chicago have that, like, you know, it's it's different.
• 22:23
  It's different.
• 22:24
  It's like the it's like it's like the Yankees and the Mets.
• 22:27
  It's there's levels to it.
• 22:29
  Right.
• 22:30
  Right.
• 22:30
  Well and and it's not that the Minnesota Vikings aren't a a storied franchise with all
• 22:35
  of, you know, the history that's there as well.
• 22:38
  But, you know, the the the packers and the bears, you know, especially both of them being
• 22:43
  in this division, I mean, that that is the that's the start of the league.
• 22:47
  So you have, you know, deep roots over a 100 years.
• 22:51
  And, you know, I mean, the Vikings have been around for over seventy years now, right, as as
• 22:55
  a franchise.
• 22:56
  But it's
• 22:57
  It's one of the oldest divisions in football.
• 23:00
  I mean, you're you're the the the league started with George Hallis.
• 23:04
  Right?
• 23:04
  So without the bears, there is no NFL as much as we kinda hate the franchise from the
• 23:10
  position that we are in, and that hate's a strong word maybe.
• 23:17
  I think that we got a lot of love and especially, you know, Vikings fans.
• 23:20
  It's hard not to have a respect, and I think we all should respect each
• 23:25
  other as fans.
• 23:26
  People are rabid, and I love them for it.
• 23:30
  And it's kind of the same point too because I I wanna put this in.
• 23:33
  You don't have an NFL without the Kansas City Chiefs either.
• 23:38
  Super Bowl one.
• 23:39
  Yeah.
• 23:40
  Hey.
• 23:40
  On that note Green Bay.
• 23:41
  Thing did you see renderings of the new stadium?
• 23:45
  I have not yet.
• 23:46
  Did you?
• 23:47
  I didn't know.
• 23:48
  I didn't look them up either.
• 23:49
  I I heard it was cool, but also three Billy?
• 23:52
  Damn.
• 23:53
  Hey.
• 23:54
  I mean, it's it's a Viking show, but, like, at some point, maybe we can show it on the post.
• 23:59
  Like, we can, like, share the rendering.
• 24:04
  How's it like I think they're trying to make it Super Bowl ready is what they're trying to do.
• 24:09
  They are.
• 24:10
  Well, that's why they're putting a a dome on it.
• 24:12
  That's why they're doing a lot of the things that they're doing.
• 24:16
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  a part of this, we'd like to take you with us.
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  our friends who helped me with the scrap scratch project.
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  The guys over at Skunk Golf, they make you look good even if your game stinks.
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  Trust me.
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  This week has been a revelation.
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  I went and I went and I I don't know if I told you, but, like, I got stuck on the highway with
• 26:17
  the flat, but I was going to get new irons before I got stuck.
• 26:21
  So that did happen.
• 26:25
  So you were on your way to go get new irons
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  No.
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  No.
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  I was on my way back Oh, so you didn't Yeah. Get
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  Get And because, like, I was playing with my brother Monday, and I'm I'm not kidding.
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  I've been frustrated with my irons for probably about four months now, and I almost snapped one
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  yesterday.
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  Go spend some money and get some new ones.
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  There you go.
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  I spent $400 to get some new ones because my club traded in for about $4.50.
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  So
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  Yikes.
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  Alright.
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  Hit them.
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  You know what?
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  Since we're talking about them, let's go ahead and hit this beautiful ad that Pods and his
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  beautiful wife put together for them.
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  We're gonna come back.
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  Hopefully, coach Cody's dipping in with us here soon.
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  Twenty seconds.
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  We'll be right back.
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  Look good even if your game stinks.
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  God, I love that ad.
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  They do too, man.
• 27:34
  I I appreciate everything that you do for the show and everything that you bring to the
• 27:39
  table.
• 27:40
  It's been a it's been a crazy, you know, last six months of the network.
• 27:44
  You know, we really got this show, formerly Vikings United, up off the ground.
• 27:50
  And you guys, if you don't know, reason for the name change, the Vikings lawyers called, said,
• 27:55
  yeah.
• 27:55
  You can't use our name.
• 27:57
  We decided we're not gonna fight with a billion dollar franchise.
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  We walked away from it.
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  We just rebranded everything.
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  Stick with our brand with SPSN.
• 28:06
  Call it the tailgate show, all good.
• 28:08
  We're gonna be doing a ton of it this year anyway.
• 28:10
  So for those of you tuning in thinking you're gonna see Vikings United, same show, same
• 28:15
  personalities, slightly different
• 28:18
  in branding.
• 28:20
  Yep.
• 28:20
  That's all.
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  That's all.
• 28:21
  Well
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  Same far.
• 28:24
  I mean, there's a ton of Vikings creators out there, and we do tend to kinda dip outside of
• 28:30
  Vikings fandom a little bit too.
• 28:32
  I think we're a lot different in the fact that we're willing to bring in other franchises and
• 28:38
  to bring creators in from other spaces as well.
• 28:41
  So, you know, we're a little bit different, and that's okay.
• 28:43
  There ain't nothing wrong with that.
• 28:45
  Ain't nothing wrong with that at all, boss.
• 28:48
  Sorry.
• 28:49
  I just my head was getting a little cold, you know, and I I needed to put some put some stuff
• 28:57
  on there and just you know?
• 29:03
  Talk about that outside.
• 29:04
  Subscribed to the network.
• 29:06
  Today is our our preview of training camp today.
• 29:12
  Obviously, we had the presser from Nolan Teasley and Kevin O'Connell.
• 29:18
  Obviously, they were asked a lot about the quarterback situation, the competition as it
• 29:24
  were.
• 29:24
  Pods, I don't know if you got a chance to listen to the presser today at all.
• 29:30
  But if you did, I think k o c made some really I mean, his comments were what you would kind
• 29:36
  of expect in a lot of ways.
• 29:39
  But when he started waxing poetic about Kyler Murray, really hard to believe that JJ McCarthy
• 29:48
  has a snowball's chance in hell of becoming the starting quarterback before the first game of
• 29:54
  the season.
• 29:55
  But, I mean, what would you what would you think are the things that a young quarterback
• 30:03
  would need to show to prove himself over an established starter and a former number one
• 30:10
  overall pick in this league?
• 30:12
  Is there a small checklist that you think that that they might be thinking about that would be
• 30:18
  like that's he would have to check all of these things and a plus all of these to be named the
• 30:26
  starter over a Kyler Murray.
• 30:28
  No.
• 30:28
  Because I think I think Kevin O'Connell brought Kyler in, and I think Kevin O'Connell's gonna
• 30:34
  hitch his wagon to Kyler simply because he doesn't and I he's saying it without saying it,
• 30:40
  and he's still saying that he doesn't think JJ's ready for it.
• 30:46
  And he may never be.
• 30:47
  And I don't know that that's not and I don't know that that's true.
• 30:50
  One.
• 30:51
  No.
• 30:51
  No.
• 30:51
  Hold on.
• 30:52
  He may never be under this coach.
• 30:55
  I think I think they wanted him last year, and I've repeated this.
• 31:00
  Right?
• 31:00
  The plan was never to have JJ McCarthy miss an entire year of playing football
• 31:06
  With an injury.
• 31:07
  Half a year.
• 31:08
  Right.
• 31:08
  And then to come in last year, I don't know that it was ever in the playbook for him to be
• 31:13
  the starter all of last year and to be learning on the job.
• 31:16
  Right?
• 31:17
  With a team that's kind of built to win now, I don't know that it was ever in the playbook.
• 31:22
  I wonder if this is a little bit of a reset because, ultimately, I don't believe that this
• 31:26
  franchise is going to pay upwards of $4,550,000,000 dollars.
• 31:33
  Who knows?
• 31:33
  He could ask for $60,000,000 to a Kyler Murray, especially if he goes out and wins double digit
• 31:39
  games in purple and gold this season.
• 31:43
  Right?
• 31:43
  So I I think that you are getting almost a re reset to where they wanted to be maybe in the
• 31:51
  rookie season, that you're getting a little bit of a redo on that rookie season of JJ McCarthy.
• 31:58
  You can sign that fifth year option and extend him.
• 32:01
  I don't know that this coaching staff is as out on the kid long term as this fan base or at
• 32:07
  least half of them seem to be and how many people are painting him to be.
• 32:11
  I think there's a lot of development left that can happen in a in the right environment, and I
• 32:18
  don't believe that being the starting QB in the NFL is necessarily that environment to do the
• 32:24
  learning and growing that needs to be done to be prepared for that position.
• 32:29
  I agree with you, but I think there's conditions to this, to be fair.
• 32:35
  I think that he needs to learn, but I don't know if Kyler's the guy to learn under.
• 32:40
  And to be quite frank outside of bFlow, we don't know what this coaching staff's gonna
• 32:44
  look like in the next six weeks.
• 32:47
  We really don't.
• 32:48
  Well, let's let's not say six weeks.
• 32:50
  Let's say by week six.
• 32:52
  Because we said this yeah.
• 32:55
  Like, we said this before, you know, we took a little bit of a break.
• 32:58
  We said that if they start anywhere in the realm of o 06/01/1952 and '4 and May might even
• 33:07
  be pushing it, I think KOC is gone.
• 33:12
  That's what I think.
• 33:13
  To see if they make a change in the middle of the season.
• 33:16
  I think that by week is the assessment.
• 33:19
  It would be interesting to me with the Nolan Teasley because I think it's obvious that KOC
• 33:26
  was I mean, when we know it from reporting that KOC was in that room during this interview
• 33:32
  process.
• 33:33
  Right?
• 33:34
  So he has built a relationship with Teasley and for a you know, maybe in a small fashion, a
• 33:40
  reason that Nolan Teasley has a job here with the organization.
• 33:45
  So I don't know how much loyalty there is to the coach, but as I kind of spoke about with
• 33:52
  some comments that were being made to this point that, like, you know, who's gonna be the
• 33:57
  head coach?
• 33:57
  And it's like, you already have head coaching material and a guy who's done it inside of the
• 34:02
  building in B Flow.
• 34:03
  At least he could perform in that in an interim status.
• 34:06
  Yeah.
• 34:06
  But they got that lawsuit going on.
• 34:08
  So I
• 34:09
  don't think that I don't think that matters.
• 34:11
  I don't think the lawsuit matters to the Minnesota Vikings.
• 34:13
  I don't think he'll ever get a head coaching job anywhere else because of that.
• 34:17
  I don't think the Vikings care.
• 34:19
  Because if they did, they wouldn't they wouldn't continue to pay him more money than
• 34:24
  any coordinator in the league.
• 34:26
  Bubba, let me ask you this.
• 34:28
  Okay?
• 34:30
  You used to be a bear supporter.
• 34:32
  Right?
• 34:33
  Yeah.
• 34:33
  I mean, that's how I grew up.
• 34:35
  And let me ask you a question.
• 34:38
  Why was it that your front office gave you so many headaches up until the last couple years?
• 34:45
  Well, they gave me headaches until I left them.
• 34:49
  But mostly, it was because a lot of holding on too long, a lot of mal practice, I guess, would
• 35:02
  I would allude to, right, that you felt they just never really had a grasp of what the hell
• 35:08
  they were doing.
• 35:10
  Right.
• 35:11
  So that's kinda where I'm at with KOC.
• 35:14
  How long is too long?
• 35:17
  And even if the guy that he brought in has a job, thanks in part to him, do you really wanna
• 35:23
  see because I use this as an example even though they've had a couple of good seasons in
• 35:27
  there.
• 35:28
  Look at how long Jacksonville held on to their GM before they finally got a new one.
• 35:33
  Look at how long, you know, Tampa Bay held on to their GM before they finally got a new one,
• 35:40
  and now they're starting to turn the ships around.
• 35:41
  Like, how long is too long on a head coach, though, that's brought has a relationship like
• 35:46
  this with the GM?
• 35:47
  Because I'm sorry.
• 35:49
  Minnesota deserves better than mediocrity.
• 35:54
  Well, speaking of better than mediocrity, that is a great point to bring in our esteemed guest
• 36:01
  every single week here on the SPSN tailgate show.
• 36:06
  Coach Cody, what's going on, brother?
• 36:08
  What's going on, fellas?
• 36:09
  How are doing tonight?
• 36:12
  We're good.
• 36:12
  We're good.
• 36:13
  Pods is filling in for me.
• 36:15
  I was dying out here for about fifteen minutes all by myself just chatting away, but we're
• 36:21
  here now.
• 36:22
  I don't think you get to wear that.
• 36:23
  Right?
• 36:24
  Where's your Seattle Seahawks championship hat at, buddy?
• 36:26
  You can't live in the past, pods.
• 36:29
  Hey, man.
• 36:31
  I'm wearing a oh, I am wearing a I'm wearing a conference championship hat.
• 36:36
  Relax.
• 36:36
  They didn't even make the playoffs last year.
• 36:38
  They didn't.
• 36:40
  But they the year that I got this, they won the Super Bowl.
• 36:43
  Yeah.
• 36:44
  Well Yeah.
• 36:45
  Nobody cares what you did last year or the year before.
• 36:48
  Coach Cody.
• 36:50
  Yeah.
• 36:50
  Go ahead, pods.
• 36:52
  Cody.
• 36:53
  Yeah.
• 36:53
  Well, how are doing, man?
• 36:54
  How are you doing?
• 36:55
  How are feeling?
• 36:56
  I'm good.
• 36:57
  I'm feeling a little flat today, but I'm good.
• 36:59
  Let's get it.
• 37:00
  It's like it's Oh, yeah.
• 37:03
  So, like, I was saying, I said that I feel like the Minnesota Vikings, they deserve more of the
• 37:10
  fans.
• 37:11
  And quite frankly, that team deserves more than just mediocrity.
• 37:16
  How long of a leash do you continue to give KOC?
• 37:20
  Because I feel like, you know, clock's gotta be ticking at this point.
• 37:26
  Ugh.
• 37:27
  I mean, it it there's it's hard to put in, like, a actual number on it and just say, like,
• 37:36
  oh, those guys got x amount of years.
• 37:38
  But all that depends on performance, but if you keep on making it to the playoffs, yeah, that's
• 37:45
  cool, but then they're gonna want you to get past the first round.
• 37:48
  Then you're gonna wanna get past the second round and then, like, win the thing.
• 37:53
  So, I mean, expectations always go higher and higher, and sometimes it's hard to meet that.
• 38:01
  And, sometimes good coaches get let go because of that.
• 38:07
  You know, not saying the KOCs is, like, one of the top 10 coaches, but, I mean, he's one of
• 38:13
  the good ones that we've had in recent memory.
• 38:16
  I agree with that.
• 38:19
  Coach, QB competition, obviously, gonna be a headline throughout most of training camp here.
• 38:26
  They addressed it at the presser talking about their process a lot.
• 38:31
  And I guess, you know, not to just, like, rehash what they were covering, but I guess
• 38:36
  more getting your opinion.
• 38:38
  As a coach yourself who's been through this training camp, you're coming in, and you have
• 38:43
  to have some semblance of a plan.
• 38:45
  Right?
• 38:45
  You can't just come in kinda willy nilly into training camp and and, you know, we're just
• 38:50
  gonna kinda let the roll the ball out every day and let the chips fall where they're at.
• 38:55
  There's obviously a plan.
• 38:57
  They have some dates in mind.
• 38:58
  They have, you know, where they want to be.
• 39:01
  What does that look like behind the scenes?
• 39:04
  What are you know, I don't know if it's drills or, you know, situational football that you're
• 39:10
  putting them in to kind of evaluate both of these guys.
• 39:13
  I think a lot of us kinda tend to feel that, k o c kinda has his mind made up as far as who
• 39:19
  his q v one is.
• 39:20
  But what are you doing to kinda put them through their paces in these first two weeks of
• 39:27
  training camp?
• 39:28
  Well, I mean, I got blessed because I had QB one.
• 39:32
  Everyone knew he was QB one, and even the other quarterback that was competing with him ended
• 39:39
  up just switching positions because he knew it was QB one.
• 39:43
  So I didn't have too much trouble with that.
• 39:45
  But, yeah, I mean, KOC probably knows where he's leaning, you know, evaluating their
• 39:52
  weaknesses, putting them in situational football, you know, trying to see if they can
• 39:59
  work on that those weaknesses and strengthen them.
• 40:02
  And then, but, yeah, there's there's definitely some dates in mind that they're like, hey.
• 40:08
  Like, if this dude doesn't, pull his weight and perform perform by this date, then, like, jobs
• 40:16
  jobs other dudes.
• 40:18
  But, it's it's gonna be extremely exciting to see how this process rolls out.
• 40:27
  Well hey, Bubba.
• 40:28
  Didn't you say that KOC was renowned before the, hiring of, when before he was hired for
• 40:37
  the Vikings?
• 40:39
  Didn't you say that he was renowned for being a quarterback whisperer or a quarterback guru?
• 40:44
  That was his whole thing.
• 40:45
  He kind of earned that title over his first three seasons, that QB whisperer moniker that a
• 40:53
  lot of people have laid on him at this point through the work that he kinda did with a Josh
• 40:58
  Dobbs and then the resurrecting of your, you know, the career
• 41:05
  Sam Darnold?
• 41:06
  Of Sam Darnold.
• 41:07
  Daniel Jones.
• 41:08
  That really had him in there.
• 41:11
  And and people, you know, I don't think he ever has called himself that.
• 41:16
  Right?
• 41:16
  Maybe he's reiterated that, but I don't know that it was necessarily something that he
• 41:21
  crowned himself with.
• 41:23
  A lot of people looked at and I think it was honestly before the Sam Darnold resurgence.
• 41:29
  I think it was really with, like, when he was getting wins out of Josh Dobbs and, you know,
• 41:34
  whatever court.
• 41:35
  I can't even remember all their names.
• 41:37
  The Nick Mullins and getting wins out of some of these guys that have never been and will
• 41:43
  never be again starters in this league.
• 41:46
  Right?
• 41:47
  So, you know, he gets that moniker, and I think it has a little bit to do with the fact that he
• 41:53
  did play quarterback in the league himself that makes him a little more in tune with that
• 42:00
  position in particular.
• 42:02
  But, you know, it it wasn't something that he came to the team with beforehand that that he
• 42:13
  came with.
• 42:13
  I think he kinda earned that, I guess, while he's been here.
• 42:18
  Okay.
• 42:19
  And to that end, Cody, how long do you give someone like that who's got those capabilities
• 42:26
  to fix up a guy like Kyler Murray who let's be honest, he's been through how many coaches now?
• 42:34
  And, you know, he started with Cliff Kingsbury.
• 42:38
  Cliff left, and he's had two coaches since then.
• 42:41
  Like, Arizona's a mess.
• 42:44
  Always is a mess, it seems like.
• 42:47
  So I feel like at some point, to get that stature back, you're gonna have to fix Kyler
• 42:57
  Murray, and we're gonna need to see a Sam Darnold, like, turnaround.
• 43:02
  We talked earlier, Cody, about what we're most excited about going into training camp.
• 43:12
  And I think for me, it was the defense.
• 43:14
  But I think second on that list, because Kyler has come off two injury, you know, seasons
• 43:22
  ended early by injury and hasn't seen the field a ton or at least not as much as you would like
• 43:27
  a starting quarterback of that, and you have had these season ending injuries, is he still
• 43:32
  the guy that a lot of Vikings fans see when they're watching highlights from, you know,
• 43:37
  circa 2022, 2023, and they're kind of, you know, watching the the high of the highs.
• 43:45
  Are we going to get that guy, or are we going to get 85% of that guy?
• 43:52
  And that I think, I don't know if you're really gonna see it necessarily in training camp
• 43:56
  because they're still not really going full speed out there.
• 44:00
  But losing a little bit of elusiveness in this league is a lot bigger step than I think a lot
• 44:06
  of Vikings fans who have kind of already crowned Kyler the savior of the franchise are
• 44:12
  forgetting.
• 44:14
  Yeah.
• 44:15
  I mean, he has that amazing ability to pick up extra first downs just with his feet, extend
• 44:22
  plays and stuff like that, but he's getting up there.
• 44:25
  And like you said, speed there's speed, and then there's just fast AF, Randy Moss, just
• 44:32
  freak speed.
• 44:33
  Right?
• 44:33
  As you get older, know, everyone knows you're gonna get slower, weaker, whatever.
• 44:40
  Just losing a couple steps is is a mile Brutal.
• 44:47
  At the end
• 44:47
  of this
• 44:47
  league ends careers.
• 44:49
  Mhmm.
• 44:49
  Right?
• 44:50
  Yeah.
• 44:50
  But it's brutal for him at his size.
• 44:53
  And a and a guy well, right.
• 44:55
  Because you can't stride out when you're five nine.
• 44:59
  You know, Randy Moss was fast because when he got his legs going, he's Usain Bolt out there.
• 45:04
  Right?
• 45:04
  Right.
• 45:05
  He's just gonna stride past you and and fly around you six foot four, and he's got that
• 45:09
  reach.
• 45:09
  I mean, he was a different just a different human being.
• 45:12
  Right?
• 45:13
  Kyler is not that.
• 45:14
  Kyler is your size, coach.
• 45:16
  Right?
• 45:16
  Like, not much I mean, he's obviously he's a little bit bigger built.
• 45:19
  He's in the NFL gym all the time, right, and not working seventy five hours a week, slinging
• 45:25
  cars out on the asphalt.
• 45:27
  But he is a he is a different athlete than a Randy Moss or even, you know, a a Justin
• 45:34
  Jefferson.
• 45:35
  Right?
• 45:36
  Those guys those levels of speed are different.
• 45:39
  He was able to that elusiveness and those legs have to pump.
• 45:44
  Can you do that after, you know, a couple of knee injuries and a couple of you know, we
• 45:49
  haven't seen it.
• 45:51
  Before you elaborate on that, coach, let me give you a little thing real quick so you guys
• 45:58
  can talk about this.
• 45:59
  Okay.
• 45:59
  Alright.
• 46:00
  So Kyler Murray has missed 30 total games between '23 and '25, and now the twenty sixth
• 46:08
  season.
• 46:09
  Oh, you're muted.
• 46:10
  The major injuries that he has suffered starting in 2021 was an ankle sprain that he
• 46:16
  missed three games after
• 46:17
  Bubba, he's muted.
• 46:18
  Do
• 46:18
  hear An injury against Green Bay.
• 46:20
  Hear him.
• 46:20
  No.
• 46:20
  Yeah.
• 46:21
  In 2223, he tore his ACL after a noncontact ACL tear in week 14 against New England, which
• 46:28
  caused him to miss 30 games spanning into the start of the '23 season.
• 46:33
  And then he's coming off of an injury where he sustained a foot injury in 2025 in week five
• 46:39
  against the titans leading to an injury reserve placement, and he missed 12 games.
• 46:46
  All of this is affecting his mobility.
• 46:48
  So as a coach and this guy's coming into your system, what are your expectations?
• 46:55
  How much of this do you think for the Vikings do they need to be able to get out of Kyler
• 46:59
  Murray for this to be a successful campaign?
• 47:02
  That's a lot of games missed.
• 47:05
  That's a lot of games missed.
• 47:08
  I I mean, for it to be successful, I'd say he's gotta give us at least 80% of the games, if not
• 47:18
  more.
• 47:21
  The performance has gotta be there.
• 47:24
  You know, just him being healthy, I mean, if the performance isn't there, he's gonna be just
• 47:30
  sitting on the bench anyway, so the health won't matter really.
• 47:33
  But, I mean, I'd say 80% of the season he's gotta give us.
• 47:38
  Maybe, get shaken up a little bit and out for maybe a quarter or so, but, like, we we're
• 47:44
  gonna need him to be there the whole season, durable, which is a lot to say because he's
• 47:52
  really not durable.
• 47:54
  And I think that it it might be a little unfair to to give that to him.
• 48:00
  He was pretty durable early on with, you know, those first several years of his career.
• 48:08
  And then just these last two years, can you not hear me, coach?
• 48:15
  Go out and come back in, and I'll kinda wax poetic a little bit.
• 48:18
  I'm a kick you.
• 48:21
  Kick him and come back in.
• 48:22
  We'll get coach back in here.
• 48:25
  So for me, and what I guess coach was alluding to that 80% of games, we're talking about the
• 48:31
  guy's gotta start 13 games for us, and he has to be a 100% of the athlete he can be inside of
• 48:38
  those games.
• 48:39
  And and I think what gives me a little bit of pause in all of this is that we don't know if
• 48:45
  he is a 100% of himself.
• 48:48
  I think there are a lot of assumptions being made right now about Kyler Murray.
• 48:54
  I think fans are looking at the player that he was five years ago and assuming you're getting
• 49:02
  that guy.
• 49:03
  And, unfortunately, father Tyme is undefeated in this league.
• 49:10
  And a guy that has been is a little bit, you know, older, a lot closer to 30 now, and it is
• 49:17
  kind of coming at that cliff, although it doesn't come as fast for quarterbacks as other
• 49:23
  positions, that he is still coming off two season ending injuries and is on the cusp of
• 49:33
  beginning a new season with a new team.
• 49:36
  I think there is a lot to be had here that we definitely need to to be, I would say, a little
• 49:45
  bit cautious of as fans.
• 49:47
  And I don't know I I don't believe that that is I don't think that that's wrong to say that.
• 49:56
  The guy only played five games last year, all seventeen and twenty four, and then only played
• 50:01
  in eight games in '23, only played in 11 games in 22.
• 50:06
  So in the last four seasons, he's only played sixteen, thirty three, 41 games out of a
• 50:15
  possible I think they were only sixteen, thirty two, 48, and then 17 last year, 55.
• 50:25
  So, I mean, missed a ton of time and kinda to your point, Pods, just going over again the the
• 50:32
  games missed and, you know, a lot of games.
• 50:36
  And and people are looking at that.
• 50:38
  You know?
• 50:38
  Yes.
• 50:39
  He played two years ago.
• 50:40
  He played all 17 games, but you had seasons where he missed significant time three out of
• 50:46
  the last four years.
• 50:48
  Right?
• 50:49
  Right.
• 50:50
  He only played in five games last year.
• 50:52
  Is this guy the same guy that people are watching on highlights from 2021?
• 50:58
  Right?
• 50:59
  Like, no.
• 50:59
  I have to say no.
• 51:00
  It's it's mean, it's just kinda common sense to me.
• 51:05
  It's why I've been a little bit cautious about, you know, kinda crowning him the savior.
• 51:09
  Is he better than a young JJ McCarthy is right now?
• 51:14
  And what JJ McCarthy has at least shown us on the field up to this point?
• 51:18
  Probably.
• 51:19
  Don't know.
• 51:19
  Experience alone.
• 51:21
  I think you can kind of rack that.
• 51:23
  But
• 51:23
  The thing is
• 51:24
  is he going to improve?
• 51:25
  Right?
• 51:26
  Like
• 51:28
  I don't know.
• 51:29
  But the thing that really worries me about Kyler is that all these injuries that he
• 51:35
  sustained have been mobility killers, like his foot, his knee, ankle.
• 51:43
  Like, all of those are not good for someone whose entire bread and butter is being a mobile
• 51:49
  quarterback because let's be real.
• 51:51
  He can't see over the offensive line.
• 51:56
  Like, all of his stuff is drop step pressures, scramble out of the pocket, make sure that you
• 52:02
  can make the right play, whether that's in the flat to the cutoff to the safety valve, whether
• 52:07
  that's making sure you hit your timing plays just right and everyone's off their routes.
• 52:12
  Because with a shorter guy like that, it's harder for him to, I would say, improvise on
• 52:19
  the fly.
• 52:20
  And you would think, well, he's more elusive.
• 52:22
  He should be able to improvise more.
• 52:23
  But when you have that height differential, you're not striding it out as much as, say,
• 52:29
  like, a Justin Herbert or Jaden Daniels.
• 52:33
  And then you throw on a knee injury, an ankle sprain, and then you also just recently hurt
• 52:39
  your foot, and you've lost he's lost 30 games in the last three years in terms of time, and
• 52:48
  that's all been in the last three to four seasons that he sustained these injuries.
• 52:54
  And I just don't see him being and I'm gonna be generous.
• 52:57
  Okay?
• 52:59
  I think Kyler Murray from when he started out of Oklahoma and say his second year when he had
• 53:04
  his best year, I say he's at best right now 60% of the player he once was.
• 53:14
  And that's, I think, why it's second on my list.
• 53:18
  And look.
• 53:20
  Did you improve the quality of that QB room when you signed him for no money?
• 53:25
  Right?
• 53:25
  Yes.
• 53:26
  Undoubtedly, he is better than Max Brosmer and Carson Wentz.
• 53:31
  But what we're looking to see in this QB competition is does he have more potential to
• 53:38
  win more games than JJ McCarthy?
• 53:41
  And that is what we're going to find out.
• 53:43
  And I don't know that it's and and KOC kind of alluded to this as well.
• 53:48
  Like, the evaluation doesn't stop once they name a starter either.
• 53:53
  Right?
• 53:53
  I I think I just don't know.
• 53:55
  And, coach, maybe I I you haven't dealt with it personally, but can a QB prove something in
• 54:01
  practice?
• 54:02
  And can a can a starting QB minus injury, can they falter?
• 54:07
  And maybe it's not picking up the nuances of the playbook and through performance and not
• 54:12
  injury, can JJ McCarthy supplant Kyler Murray in season as the starter?
• 54:20
  Absolutely.
• 54:21
  Absolutely.
• 54:21
  I mean, you know, quarterbacks can anybody can surprise you.
• 54:29
  Sometimes it just clicks, and, it could click after two practices.
• 54:33
  It could click after training camp.
• 54:35
  It could click after the second preseason game.
• 54:37
  But, you know, you just you see the improvement, and, you know, tighter zip on the
• 54:43
  ball, amazing placement, like, decision making on par.
• 54:50
  And then on the flip side, if you have a quarterback that, you know, you think he's the
• 54:55
  one and he's just not getting it, the, you know, the, the balls are just, weird coming off
• 55:02
  the hands, no velocity, no placement.
• 55:06
  You know, you gotta throw a ball that a wide receiver can catch.
• 55:09
  So, I mean, if the the wide receivers aren't able to catch these balls, I mean, it's next
• 55:14
  man up.
• 55:15
  So it works both ways.
• 55:17
  I'm worried about that, coach, because next man up might be a real possibility for this
• 55:24
  quarterback room considering that all these guys are injury prone.
• 55:28
  Mhmm.
• 55:29
  I mean, Brozmer, get ready, son.
• 55:34
  You never know.
• 55:35
  This time you've gotta get ready, son.
• 55:37
  Well,
• 55:38
  it it but does that not concern you guys?
• 55:41
  Like, I know it does, but, like, does that concern you just a little bit how many injuries
• 55:45
  are in that room alone?
• 55:48
  Yes.
• 55:49
  It does con it's highly concerning.
• 55:52
  You know, they they had to have taken that into account signing them.
• 55:57
  Granted, like, we signed them for next to nothing, so it was a kind of a win win
• 56:03
  situation, but we're I'm just excited to see how it pans out.
• 56:09
  Hopefully, he turns out to be like a Sam Darnold, and we can resurrect his career.
• 56:15
  And then maybe he stays.
• 56:17
  But it's gonna be tough.
• 56:18
  I mean, like, you know
• 56:20
  I just don't see it.
• 56:21
  I don't if if he stays and this team is successful, I don't see this organization
• 56:28
  ponying up north of $40,000,000 a year for a quarterback without looking at the cap
• 56:34
  situation right away.
• 56:37
  I I don't know that they have it in the first place.
• 56:39
  Hey, Scotland.
• 56:41
  Hello.
• 56:44
  Glad you guys aren't on the side of the road anymore.
• 56:47
  Yeah.
• 56:48
  We have
• 56:49
  Yeah.
• 56:50
  We do.
• 56:51
  I I think that I don't think I think JJ McCarthy is here next year regardless.
• 56:58
  Right?
• 56:58
  There's been so much trade talk around him, and I just don't know why you I don't know why you
• 57:03
  trade a guy that you have team control over that you're paying next to nothing for that is
• 57:08
  at the very least proven to be a more than capable at least backup.
• 57:12
  Right?
• 57:12
  The kid can play some.
• 57:14
  You may not like him as you're starting QB 17 games, but to call him that, you know, some of
• 57:19
  these fans out here are just kind of belligerent.
• 57:21
  Right?
• 57:21
  He's the worst quarterback I've ever seen.
• 57:23
  He's not the worst court
• 57:24
  mm-mm.
• 57:25
  Uh-huh.
• 57:26
  No.
• 57:26
  It's ponder.
• 57:27
  Right.
• 57:28
  Well and and the comparisons to him are are just bananas.
• 57:31
  To me, it's kinda crazy.
• 57:33
  I think it sucks because this team doesn't suck.
• 57:36
  Right?
• 57:36
  Like, the defense is good enough that you're in games, you're playing up to that level with
• 57:41
  good teams, and then, you know, JJ sailing a ball 20 yards over somebody's head, and
• 57:47
  you're like,
• 57:48
  what are we watching?
• 57:49
  It just makes the bad point stand out so much more.
• 57:51
  Where if you're if you're a bad football team and there's no expectations, nobody's even
• 57:56
  watching.
• 57:56
  Right?
• 57:56
  Nobody cares.
• 57:57
  So I think there was definitely some of that playing against, you know, McCarthy last year.
• 58:02
  And the reason that people, you know, coming in with Kyler are are so excited.
• 58:07
  But what, you know, Pods and I were kind of alluding to and talking about the injuries is
• 58:11
  that people are watching highlights of Kyler Murray from 2021, 2022 when he was, like, the
• 58:19
  player.
• 58:21
  Like, yes.
• 58:21
  He was one
• 58:22
  of the best quarterbacks in the league for those few years.
• 58:25
  But as we've kind of alluded to, is he that guy anymore?
• 58:29
  And I think that the easy answer is no.
• 58:34
  And let me play devil's advocate just a little bit too.
• 58:38
  I have the same frustration with who's considered arguably the greatest quarterback in
• 58:43
  the league right now and not being Patrick Mahomes.
• 58:46
  He was sailing guys last year too.
• 58:49
  He wasn't healthy either.
• 58:52
  Now he's taken more time to get healthy, and I think he'll come back from it, but that's
• 58:56
  generally because I believe Kansas City has a better system than most teams, but it's also
• 59:02
  like you have to taper your expectations when these guys are coming off of injuries.
• 59:07
  And when you got a guy like Kyler who's coming off of not one, but three injuries to his leg
• 59:13
  and foot area, There's no way you're getting Heisman winner, Kyler Murray.
• 59:18
  I'm I'm being honest with you guys, and I I know you got I I really do hope the best for
• 59:23
  the Vikings, but I think the Vikings' best path forward is JJ McCarthy or somebody else.
• 59:30
  I don't think Kyler's that guy in terms of being the path forward because I don't think
• 59:35
  Kyler Murray is gonna be a quarterback in the NFL here in the next five years.
• 59:39
  I could agree with that.
• 59:41
  I can agree with that.
• 59:42
  And I I'd I'd rather even try to mold JJ, but try to get him some veteran experience
• 59:49
  experience.
• 59:50
  I don't think Kyler's the veteran you want giving him trying to mold him, though, because
• 59:54
  he doesn't do the things you want him to do anyway.
• 59:57
  He's not in the film room.
• 59:58
  He's not doing that.
• 59:59
  He's a problem off the field with his inattention.
• 1:00:02
  Like
• 1:00:03
  Is can there be a can there kinda be an effect to that too where you bring in a Kyler and go,
• 1:00:10
  hey.
• 1:00:10
  That could be you, JJ.
• 1:00:12
  You wanna keep being kinda immature and keep playing these games.
• 1:00:15
  You could be this guy, and you could be signing for no money in, you know, what should be the
• 1:00:20
  prime of your career.
• 1:00:21
  And people are gonna be talking about if the season doesn't go his way and Kyler Murray
• 1:00:26
  isn't performing, that he's washed up and he's never gonna get that top money that he thinks
• 1:00:32
  he deserves ever again.
• 1:00:34
  I genuinely think if Kyler doesn't show out, this is it.
• 1:00:40
  A 100%.
• 1:00:41
  Percent.
• 1:00:42
  This is his last shot, especially as a starter.
• 1:00:47
  This is, like, this is it, dude.
• 1:00:49
  Like, there's no I don't think there's if there is a second chance, like, this is your last
• 1:00:54
  chance at being a starter because otherwise and I don't mean to offend because Minnesota loves
• 1:00:59
  the man.
• 1:01:00
  He's gonna be Teddy Bridgewatering the rest of his career before he eventually lands down the
• 1:01:04
  practice squad.
• 1:01:08
  That's crazy, but yeah.
• 1:01:09
  I like that.
• 1:01:10
  I like that.
• 1:01:11
  Well,
• 1:01:12
  the, Kyler Murray signing was the big one of the off season for sure.
• 1:01:16
  And now on the eve of training camp, couple of big signings announced today.
• 1:01:21
  Jamal Adams, safety linebacker, signs today, formerly of the jets, last season with the
• 1:01:30
  raiders, but had a little bit of a relationship from his time with the Seattle seahawks
• 1:01:34
  Seahawks with new Vikings GM Nolan Teasley.
• 1:01:38
  He signs today, and then also Brian O'Neil, resigned with a massive contract for a right
• 1:01:45
  tackle, which I think in a couple of years probably doesn't look as maybe as overpay as it
• 1:01:52
  does today.
• 1:01:52
  I saw a lot of guys throwing that around, but, I mean, you gotta pay tackles these days.
• 1:01:56
  It's not just left tackles.
• 1:01:58
  You gotta pay these guys on the outside big money.
• 1:02:01
  I think in a few years towards the end of this deal, you're looking at other guys that are
• 1:02:05
  probably making north of 30 at that right tackle position.
• 1:02:08
  And you're like, oh, we got a deal, you know, a a steal on a guy who's been kind of an anchor
• 1:02:13
  of that, offensive line through some pretty tumultuous years, especially with the Christian
• 1:02:19
  Derasa injuries in the last two seasons.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah.
• 1:02:24
  No.
• 1:02:24
  I I I love the signing.
• 1:02:27
  Like you said, big boys, football, it all starts in the trenches, and he's been an anchor
• 1:02:34
  for that offensive line.
• 1:02:35
  One of the best players on that offensive line other than Durasaw, but, you know, loyal
• 1:02:42
  player, great in the community.
• 1:02:45
  You know?
• 1:02:45
  Better human.
• 1:02:46
  I'd love to
• 1:02:47
  yes.
• 1:02:47
  Yes.
• 1:02:48
  And and then with Jamal Adams, like, that was huge.
• 1:02:52
  They that put a smile on my face.
• 1:02:54
  I'm not even gonna lie.
• 1:02:56
  Now, coach, we and Paz and I touched a little bit on this earlier already, but, a lot of
• 1:03:02
  people, I think, were talking and seeing, you know, Jamal Adams.
• 1:03:05
  They still think of him as a safety.
• 1:03:07
  So they thought that, you know, this obviously signaled that Harrison Smith is retiring and
• 1:03:12
  and is not coming back to the team.
• 1:03:14
  I don't necessarily feel that way.
• 1:03:16
  How do you feel about it?
• 1:03:18
  Well, didn't we sign him to be a linebacker, though?
• 1:03:22
  I don't know that they put a position on it when they signed it.
• 1:03:26
  That is the position that he's played the last few seasons in more of that role as kind of a
• 1:03:32
  outside linebacker, you know, get after the quarterback kinda guy, not a typical, you know,
• 1:03:38
  outside linebacker stand up, you know, getting on the line, but somebody that's gonna rush the
• 1:03:43
  passer Mhmm.
• 1:03:44
  From that from that outside.
• 1:03:46
  Cody, think of it basically as the Miami Heater signing on as that shooting forward and power
• 1:03:52
  forward, but he's gonna play the three, the one, and the four.
• 1:03:57
  And probably the five at some point too.
• 1:03:59
  Right.
• 1:04:00
  Right.
• 1:04:00
  Yeah.
• 1:04:00
  No.
• 1:04:01
  I mean, he's he could probably do both, have the the kinda hybrid
• 1:04:07
  And that's great for packages.
• 1:04:09
  Yes.
• 1:04:09
  Yes.
• 1:04:10
  And that's just another weapon that Flores can use.
• 1:04:14
  You know, I'm just I wonder how many more years Adam's got.
• 1:04:18
  You know?
• 1:04:19
  Is this just a hey.
• 1:04:21
  We need a bridge safety or a like a bridge linebacker veteran presence out there until we
• 1:04:26
  can draft or sign one.
• 1:04:28
  I don't know, but I like the signing.
• 1:04:31
  I don't know how long he's got, but, I don't know how long he's got, but, man, I really do
• 1:04:39
  hope that all the time he's got, it's nasty defense the whole time.
• 1:04:43
  Mhmm.
• 1:04:44
  Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  No.
• 1:04:45
  I'm I'm ecstatic to, see what brought beef Lowe's got for us because he, you know, he's
• 1:04:52
  one of the most creative defensive, head coaches or defensive coaches, defensive
• 1:04:58
  coordinators.
• 1:04:59
  His schemes are out of this world.
• 1:05:03
  Yeah.
• 1:05:03
  They haven't even they haven't even mentioned the contract at all.
• 1:05:06
  It was a a tweet that he put out, just with the skull hashtag, in year 10.
• 1:05:14
  Right?
• 1:05:14
  So I I don't know what the deal is if they only signed him for a single year.
• 1:05:20
  It would be I mean, with where this team is, I think adding someone like this where you have a
• 1:05:29
  guy that's kind of in his prototype in Jacoby Thomas.
• 1:05:33
  Somebody who's a big body, not a traditional free safety, somebody that can come down, lay
• 1:05:38
  some wood, get after the quarterback as a blitzer.
• 1:05:42
  What do you think about that?
• 1:05:43
  It it just kind of but I think he's also signing here to be more than just like a mentor
• 1:05:47
  to these young guys.
• 1:05:49
  To be someone that they can more follow in the footsteps of and kinda shadow around and to
• 1:05:54
  have that.
• 1:05:55
  But he's gonna play meaningful snaps on this defense whether it's as a starter.
• 1:06:00
  Right?
• 1:06:00
  I think you're gonna see a lot of rotation on this defense this year.
• 1:06:04
  A lot of guys that aren't necessarily playing 400 plus snaps.
• 1:06:08
  A lot of guys that are playing two fifty to 300, right, because they're rotating.
• 1:06:14
  I think that's from the defensive line all the way through the back end.
• 1:06:18
  Yeah.
• 1:06:18
  Correct.
• 1:06:19
  I mean, I I I think you hit hit the nail on the head right there is, you know, just bringing
• 1:06:26
  him in, to be a mentor.
• 1:06:29
  You know, he is gonna play meaningful snaps, but I think you're correct there that we're
• 1:06:33
  gonna be rotating in some of the younger guys to get them that experience, that, you know,
• 1:06:39
  live action, experience just being on the field.
• 1:06:44
  Know, that's the only way you're gonna get it.
• 1:06:47
  So and and we need to give grow these players, especially on the back end.
• 1:06:52
  As a defensive guy, and especially as a DB coach, how do you feel about that?
• 1:06:58
  Not necessarily having, you know, four guys, your two corners, and your two safeties that
• 1:07:03
  are just locked in.
• 1:07:04
  They are your guys.
• 1:07:06
  And having this, I think our outsides are set.
• 1:07:08
  I think we feel pretty confident about the guys that we have in place now with a couple of the
• 1:07:12
  signings that have happened here, you know, in in the postseason.
• 1:07:17
  But to having a little bit of a rotation through that linebacking core and that strong
• 1:07:23
  safety where you are kinda rotating guys in and out through the middle of that defense, do you
• 1:07:29
  feel like having fresh legs out there is more of an advantage than having to trot out maybe a
• 1:07:35
  little bit of inexperience at some of those positions because you are playing you're gonna
• 1:07:40
  be playing rookies at every level this year.
• 1:07:42
  Right?
• 1:07:43
  These these rookie defensive tackles are gonna play.
• 1:07:45
  The rookie linebacker, think, is gonna play.
• 1:07:49
  I don't know exactly where they're gonna end up putting.
• 1:07:52
  His name's evading me right now, but the kid from Cincinnati.
• 1:07:56
  The and I think Jakobi Thomas is gonna see the field.
• 1:07:59
  Right?
• 1:07:59
  I I don't know if he's play, you know, 300 snaps or anything and be a, quote, unquote,
• 1:08:04
  starter, but the young man's gonna see the field.
• 1:08:07
  So what are your kind of feelings as a coach in that?
• 1:08:10
  And how do you kind of balance those scales?
• 1:08:14
  Well, I mean, yeah, I think to answer your question to, it it's better to I think it's
• 1:08:21
  better to have fresh legs out there, especially, you know, the it's a long season.
• 1:08:27
  Some games can be just grueling and take a a toll on your body.
• 1:08:32
  And, you know, the the inexperience, it is what it is.
• 1:08:37
  You know, we just gotta face the facts, but I think the rotation and just getting that live
• 1:08:45
  action will help the whole situation.
• 1:08:49
  And, you know, just to get them a little bit more along and further in the process and
• 1:08:55
  getting that experience, stick them on special teams.
• 1:08:58
  You know what I'm saying?
• 1:09:00
  Just anything to get them a few more extra snaps.
• 1:09:04
  Do you feel like getting them out there on early downs, especially with the Jacoby Thomas,
• 1:09:09
  on your typical running downs as like a first and second down guy, come down here, fill in in
• 1:09:15
  the box, get that game experience when you're not gonna be necessarily exposed on a third
• 1:09:22
  down or, you know, god forbid, fourth down situations.
• 1:09:26
  Right?
• 1:09:26
  That you're kinda trotting them out there early and letting them kinda take some of these licks
• 1:09:31
  knowing that you have, you know, a Jamal Adams, possibly a Harrison Smith, right, to throw back
• 1:09:37
  there on those key downs that have literally seen everything in their time in the league.
• 1:09:42
  I mean, yes and no.
• 1:09:45
  You can go that way.
• 1:09:47
  And, yeah, I do believe, you know, on the early downs run the the obvious running downs, You
• 1:09:55
  know?
• 1:09:55
  Yeah.
• 1:09:56
  It'd be nice to save some of the wear and tear off the older players, the Jamal Adams, the
• 1:10:01
  Harrison Smith, hopefully.
• 1:10:04
  You know?
• 1:10:04
  But at the same time, they they're gonna they're gonna see, and get exposed.
• 1:10:11
  I'd rather get those licks out the way, but that's me personally.
• 1:10:16
  You know, just NFL quarterbacks are NFL quarterbacks for a reason, and there's a a
• 1:10:24
  reason why there's only a handful of, starting, like, quality starting quarterbacks, and the
• 1:10:32
  there's barely any handful, qualities backup, quarterbacks.
• 1:10:37
  So, I mean, they got skill.
• 1:10:39
  They're gonna, you know, they're gonna, make you look like a fool a couple times, but it's
• 1:10:44
  that's the experience that I need them to get.
• 1:10:47
  And, you know, there's gonna be some, ups and downs, but we gotta go through them.
• 1:10:53
  It's just gotta happen.
• 1:10:55
  Do you I mean, these young guys are gonna play in the preseason.
• 1:10:59
  Right?
• 1:10:59
  Is there things that you're doing because I mean, Jamal Adams doesn't need a ton of time in
• 1:11:05
  training camp back there.
• 1:11:07
  Yes.
• 1:11:07
  He needs to get the playbook, but, you know, B Flow isn't really running off of plays anyway.
• 1:11:12
  It feels like it's all instinct once it gets going.
• 1:11:15
  Obviously, there are there's responsibilities.
• 1:11:18
  Right?
• 1:11:18
  There's gap responsibilities when it comes down to there, but feels like most of that defense
• 1:11:22
  is just instinct.
• 1:11:24
  How do you address it as a defensive coach now in training camp?
• 1:11:28
  Are you putting these guys, these especially these young defenders out there and getting
• 1:11:32
  them as much action in this training camp as you possibly can and worrying a little bit less
• 1:11:39
  about catching up a vet like Jamal Adams?
• 1:11:42
  Even though he's new to the team, you gotta get these young guys out on the field.
• 1:11:46
  Is that kinda your take on it as well?
• 1:11:48
  A 100%.
• 1:11:49
  A 100%.
• 1:11:51
  You know, vets like Adams, Harrison Smith, you know, they don't they they know they've been
• 1:11:58
  around the block a few times.
• 1:12:00
  They know how to prepare themselves.
• 1:12:02
  And, you know, with Adams, it's just learning the place, especially with Bflow.
• 1:12:07
  He's gotta be able to learn that scheme.
• 1:12:10
  And, you know, so, yeah, I would be using this time to try to accelerate any amount of
• 1:12:17
  progress that I could, especially with the younger guys.
• 1:12:20
  Get them out there, get them more, you know, extra reps, and take away some from, some of
• 1:12:27
  the veterans that don't really have to prove anything.
• 1:12:32
  I agree.
• 1:12:33
  I agree.
• 1:12:35
  Because it gives you guys way more reps, and it gives the coaching staff a better look at these
• 1:12:41
  guys who they need to start molding for the future.
• 1:12:46
  Did you have some that paused?
• 1:12:47
  You came back all excited.
• 1:12:50
  Oh, no.
• 1:12:50
  No.
• 1:12:51
  No.
• 1:12:51
  I was excited because I took care of a problem all on my own without your help.
• 1:12:55
  Oh, you're a big boy.
• 1:12:58
  Big boy, man.
• 1:12:59
  Big boy now.
• 1:13:03
  Oh.
• 1:13:03
  No.
• 1:13:04
  But, I think, I think the last thing and just kinda building on what coach said is you
• 1:13:10
  already have a guy in Flores who is an amoeba of a coordinator when it comes to making these
• 1:13:16
  defenses and getting the best out of his guys.
• 1:13:18
  You can just make them fit where they need to fit.
• 1:13:21
  And to have someone like Adams come in is just priceless.
• 1:13:25
  You know, it's really they're it's invaluable.
• 1:13:27
  Like, there's just another general you can have out there, especially in the run game and on
• 1:13:32
  some of these safety packages where you have a guy like Adams who can plug that gap or go and
• 1:13:38
  play linebacker, come up and play closer.
• 1:13:41
  Like, you don't know what he's doing, and I think that's, a real boon to have on the
• 1:13:46
  defensive side of the ball, especially when you're a coordinator because you know you can
• 1:13:50
  plug and play this guy in multiple places, and you know he can teach these guys how to play
• 1:13:55
  just like him.
• 1:13:55
  And when you got multiple guys that are learning from a stud like Adams, who are
• 1:14:01
  learning to plug and play the way he does, that's a recipe for a lot of quarterback sacks
• 1:14:05
  and pressures.
• 1:14:08
  Right.
• 1:14:10
  Right.
• 1:14:12
  Sorry.
• 1:14:13
  Trying to solve some issues on the background.
• 1:14:14
  I'm putting my big boy pants on pods.
• 1:14:18
  Alright.
• 1:14:18
  Alright.
• 1:14:19
  So now that, well, he's trying to solve things in the background.
• 1:14:22
  I'm gonna take this podcast over.
• 1:14:24
  It's gonna be the Kansas City Chiefs Tailgate.
• 1:14:27
  Here we go.
• 1:14:27
  I'm kidding.
• 1:14:28
  I'm kidding.
• 1:14:30
  Alright?
• 1:14:30
  On that note, pods, we definitely plan to expand this, and and that was another reason
• 1:14:36
  for a little bit of the rebrand as well.
• 1:14:39
  I think we wanna be known.
• 1:14:40
  There's plenty of guys out there, and we're friends with some of them.
• 1:14:44
  Right?
• 1:14:44
  We're we're friends with rap.
• 1:14:46
  He does a lot better job about covering this Vikings team specifically, where we really
• 1:14:51
  wanna be somewhere where we can talk about all things football, and now the rebrand kind of
• 1:14:56
  allows us to do that.
• 1:14:57
  So I I think we're gonna get into more of that.
• 1:14:59
  I don't know that we're gonna do, you know, previews for every single team out there, but
• 1:15:06
  don't find it to be, you know, outside of the realm.
• 1:15:09
  I'm kinda torn.
• 1:15:10
  Right?
• 1:15:10
  I'm I'm just as close to Kansas City as I am to Minneapolis.
• 1:15:14
  Right?
• 1:15:15
  So, we I could have gone either way, yeah, with my fandom.
• 1:15:19
  One one
• 1:15:19
  side I've had my fandom since I was four years old, So there was no way for me to go.
• 1:15:26
  I was born into, the bears, and it just never went well for me.
• 1:15:32
  And especially being out here in South Dakota for most of my life now, there really aren't
• 1:15:37
  too many bears fans.
• 1:15:39
  There is something to being a fan
• 1:15:40
  Hey, man.
• 1:15:41
  Outside of the market.
• 1:15:44
  Right?
• 1:15:44
  At least you weren't born as a fan.
• 1:15:46
  You you weren't born into the factory of sadness as a fan.
• 1:15:50
  You weren't born as a Cleveland Browns fan.
• 1:15:53
  I mean, once the team I could have moved to Baltimore, right, when the team left and and
• 1:15:58
  been a Ravens fan, and they were pretty good after that.
• 1:16:01
  So, you know, it's not all bad.
• 1:16:04
  Mean, the Browns won a Super Bowl.
• 1:16:05
  They just weren't the Browns anymore.
• 1:16:06
  Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  It's I need to follow the team, man.
• 1:16:10
  No.
• 1:16:10
  It there's gonna be a lot.
• 1:16:12
  You know, you mentioned something when we were talking about Brian O'Neil earlier, and I
• 1:16:15
  wanted to point it out because he was one of the players that was at the at the unreal
• 1:16:20
  celebrity softball game that we attended back in May.
• 1:16:25
  And you could tell how much players and and the players' wives and the players' kids.
• 1:16:34
  He's an affable human being, man.
• 1:16:36
  People love him.
• 1:16:37
  He's really a heart and a backbone of this team.
• 1:16:42
  I I I think that getting this deal done was obviously very important to everyone inside of
• 1:16:50
  that front office, and I was really it was really nice to see it get done, not be
• 1:16:56
  something that's looming over us as we get through training camp.
• 1:17:00
  And it's just done now.
• 1:17:01
  Like I said, maybe a little bit of an overpay.
• 1:17:04
  I think you get to the end of these four years, and right tackles are gonna be signing
• 1:17:07
  contracts that are well over the 20 I think it's just a shade, like, 22 or something point
• 1:17:14
  five or or whatever it is now.
• 1:17:16
  You're gonna have right tackles that are signing up for 27 a year in the next three
• 1:17:20
  years.
• 1:17:21
  So it probably
• 1:17:22
  I think at some point, there's gonna be a reset in the market too where some of these prices
• 1:17:26
  start to come back down to earth.
• 1:17:29
  Don't know that they I don't I maybe.
• 1:17:32
  Because I wonder they're gonna start paying these guys with monopoly money?
• 1:17:35
  Yeah.
• 1:17:36
  It's crazy.
• 1:17:37
  Well, I I mean, everything everything's more expensive.
• 1:17:40
  The league is worth more and more every year as well.
• 1:17:44
  You look at the $3,000,000,000 stadium that they're building in Kansas for the Chiefs now.
• 1:17:50
  That it's it's crazy.
• 1:17:52
  Where does it all come from?
• 1:17:53
  How do we just keep printing more of this stuff?
• 1:17:55
  How you know, I don't understand any of that.
• 1:17:58
  I'm not an economist.
• 1:17:59
  I don't know.
• 1:18:00
  I think Jerry Jones should go check his bank vault.
• 1:18:02
  Maybe some people have taken off the top.
• 1:18:04
  I don't know.
• 1:18:05
  It doesn't seem to be, like, flowing from one thing to another.
• 1:18:08
  It seems like it just keeps on getting, there just seems to be more of it all the time, which
• 1:18:13
  is weird to me.
• 1:18:13
  But
• 1:18:14
  Where can I get some of this stuff?
• 1:18:15
  I'm just I mean, you know.
• 1:18:18
  Sign us up.
• 1:18:19
  Sign me
• 1:18:20
  up.
• 1:18:20
  We're we're definitely looking for it.
• 1:18:23
  But, obviously, I wanna throw out a huge congratulations to Brian O'Neil getting that
• 1:18:28
  done ahead of camp here.
• 1:18:29
  And I think that kinda wraps up, you know, besides the Harrison Smith, you know, not I
• 1:18:35
  mean, he's not retired.
• 1:18:36
  So it's not like he's coming out of retirement.
• 1:18:38
  It's just, you know, the hanging on and waiting for that news to drop.
• 1:18:41
  It sure felt like we were gonna have an answer before the end of training camp.
• 1:18:46
  Now KOC didn't necessarily allude to that, but it it seemed it seems to me like, you know,
• 1:18:55
  Harrison's gonna take his time right now, see how the body feels.
• 1:19:00
  If he, you know, decides that he's going to do it, I think he comes back, you know, probably
• 1:19:04
  in a couple of weeks as we get through those preseason games and then maybe, you know,
• 1:19:09
  taking it from there.
• 1:19:12
  But if not, I think that he kind of officially announces his retirement then and just says
• 1:19:19
  that he's done.
• 1:19:20
  Maybe he's waiting to see who the quarterback is.
• 1:19:22
  Maybe he's waiting to see how this young defense looks in a things because you gotta
• 1:19:25
  imagine the guy's got keys to the freaking to the practice facility at least.
• 1:19:30
  Right?
• 1:19:31
  Like, he's around the team probably, and I would be very surprised with and we got friends
• 1:19:36
  that'll be at training camp and stuff as well.
• 1:19:38
  Be very surprised if he's not around the building and kinda hanging around Lurking
• 1:19:43
  about?
• 1:19:44
  Without a contract.
• 1:19:45
  Right?
• 1:19:45
  I just like he's never going anywhere.
• 1:19:48
  He's a Viking for life regardless, and it's just the nature of the thing.
• 1:19:53
  So gonna be interesting to see what drops there.
• 1:19:58
  Anything else?
• 1:19:58
  I don't know if coach is gonna make it back in tonight.
• 1:20:01
  There's one thing I wanna say, and it's, we were talking about it.
• 1:20:08
  Not, we were talking about how you were on the you know, you were torn between the Kansas City
• 1:20:12
  thing.
• 1:20:13
  But on the Kansas City note, I wanna give, coach Bienami of the Kansas City, his his wife
• 1:20:23
  and him, some prayers.
• 1:20:25
  That's terrible what's going on with them, and I hope she's okay and will pull through.
• 1:20:30
  And I hope that, coach can get through it and come with us, you know, a straight head on for
• 1:20:39
  the season and nothing else happens that's worse.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah.
• 1:20:42
  That's just a crazy situation there, and not to take anything away from them.
• 1:20:47
  Obviously, all of our prayers go out to the Viennese and in their time of need.
• 1:20:53
  But also, you know, Kyle Shanahan in a very serious car accident as well with the 49ers and
• 1:21:01
  what that means for their season move
• 1:21:04
  No shot.
• 1:21:04
  I didn't hear about that.
• 1:21:07
  So Kyle Shanahan, in a serious
• 1:21:09
  When did this happen?
• 1:21:10
  Just
• 1:21:12
  today or last night possibly.
• 1:21:14
  Let me, I put Shannon.
• 1:21:16
  They don't
• 1:21:17
  know who I am.
• 1:21:18
  Kyle Shannon, nearly lost eye in car crash, says friend Chris Simms.
• 1:21:23
  So this is ESPN reporting, so I'm just gonna kind of excerpt here.
• 1:21:28
  Result
• 1:21:29
  of
• 1:21:29
  a car crash earlier this month.
• 1:21:30
  Okay.
• 1:21:31
  So it happened a little while over there, suffered multiple injuries, two car crash on
• 1:21:35
  July 14.
• 1:21:36
  So happened about two weeks ago today and had including cuts to the face that required more
• 1:21:43
  than forty stitches.
• 1:21:44
  So, obviously, he's been going through a lot there, and we hope to you know, we obviously
• 1:21:50
  send our prayers out to coach Shanahan.
• 1:21:54
  We're we're in this for football, obviously, when we're standing on opposite sidelines.
• 1:21:59
  You know, it's every man for himself, but, we never wanna see things happen like this to
• 1:22:06
  coaches or their families or to players and their families for that matter either.
• 1:22:10
  So a lot of prayers go out around the league, this year and this week as, yeah, just some
• 1:22:17
  really crazy situations here through this time and, you know, just life is so precious.
• 1:22:23
  Right?
• 1:22:24
  And even you guys today, anything could've happened with your tire and a blowout and
• 1:22:28
  things like that or being stranded on the side of the highway even.
• 1:22:31
  You know?
• 1:22:32
  I I hope you had cold water to drink and and you guys didn't, you know, suffer any illness
• 1:22:36
  because of that and no, you know, injuries.
• 1:22:39
  But, you know, what don't take this life for granted, people.
• 1:22:42
  As someone who played fast and loose with his life for a long time, I probably shouldn't be
• 1:22:48
  here.
• 1:22:49
  Take care of yourselves out there, especially in this heat wave.
• 1:22:52
  Drink lots of water.
• 1:22:53
  Lots of prayers out to the people in Wisconsin.
• 1:22:55
  A huge tornado in Appleton, Wisconsin yesterday destroyed a ton of houses.
• 1:23:01
  I I think there's been a couple of casualties with that as well.
• 1:23:03
  So just there's always bad stuff happening.
• 1:23:06
  We can't do a lot about it most of the times, but we can be good people.
• 1:23:10
  So control what you can control.
• 1:23:12
  Be good to one another.
• 1:23:14
  Pods, do you have anything else to cover before we just get out of here tonight?
• 1:23:19
  I am sweating bullets.
• 1:23:20
  You're probably finally cooling down a little bit from your excursion.
• 1:23:25
  Anything else before we get out of here today?
• 1:23:29
  Just be kind to yourself.
• 1:23:32
  Be kind to your neighbors.
• 1:23:33
  Make sure you're hydrating, and just, you know, make sure you guys take a second to think about
• 1:23:40
  the people who are important in your life and tell them that they are important to you.
• 1:23:45
  Well, guys, I appreciate everybody tuning in tonight.
• 1:23:49
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• 1:23:55
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• 1:23:58
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• 1:24:02
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• 1:24:03
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• 1:24:05
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• 1:24:10
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• 1:25:01
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• 1:25:08
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• 1:25:15
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• 1:25:16
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• 1:25:22
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  I do believe that one's coming out on Friday.
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  Shout out to Cesar Balganion for coming on the show, and we are talking about some really,
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  really big stuff that we're gonna be planning for later on this year as well.
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  Because as you know, the golf season never ends in Arizona or Southern California or Florida.
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  So lots of great stuff to come.
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  NFL football is back, baby, and we couldn't be more excited about it.
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  If we don't see you before, we will see you next Tuesday for another episode of the
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  tailgate show.
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  Good night, everyone.
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  Skunked golf.
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  Look good even if your game stinks.