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Speaker 1: Is the reform it Tonight, Pauline Hanson defended from White
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Speaker 1: Heckler's by an Indian supporter in her triumphant tour of Victoria.
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Speaker 1: But polls do show a slip and support. Have we
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Speaker 1: seen Pete Hansen? I'll talk to her later. Iran's leaders
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Speaker 1: split as Donald Trump paus on the pressure, with one
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Speaker 1: pleading on TV for Iranians to trust them if he
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Speaker 1: does talk peace with Trump. Well, so tonight, Mega Markel
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Speaker 1: promotes the shirt that she wore to mourn the victims
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Speaker 1: of the Bondai massacre, and China builds a robot that
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Speaker 1: yesterday beat human runners in a half marathon. But I
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Speaker 1: wonder is that robot's next job to carry a gun?
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Speaker 1: But first, now, you would think it couldn't possibly get
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Speaker 1: any worse. Even before the governments new Solicitor General today
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Speaker 1: stuck her or in, you would think that we've already
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Speaker 1: made ourselves too weak and ridiculous when our Prime minister
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Speaker 1: had to go this month on a begging to her
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Speaker 1: of Asia, begging for fuel, and you'd think that the
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Speaker 1: humiliation of going begging would be the last straw, especially
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Speaker 1: when the Malaysian Prime Minister says sure, sure to Anthony
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Speaker 1: Albaneze's face, and then the very next day tells reporters, no, actually,
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Speaker 1: Malaysia has no plans to sell oil to Australia. Ah,
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Speaker 1: they just talked more about strategic needs and in reality
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Speaker 1: we are not selling oil. And you would think Australia
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Speaker 1: also looked stupid enough to be scrounging for oil from
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Speaker 1: Asia when we'd kept much of our own oil in
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Speaker 1: the ground and let our refinery shut. In fact, looking
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Speaker 1: so stupid now that even Donald Trump's energy secretary mocked
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Speaker 1: us on the weekend as a lesson in what not
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Speaker 1: to do Australia has.
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Speaker 2: You know, they just rely on China in Southeast Asia
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Speaker 2: to deliver them all their energy resources.
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Speaker 1: But yet Australia is an energy rich country.
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Speaker 3: And hopefully the common sense of the Trump energy agenda spreads.
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Speaker 1: Let's get rid of the climate called and finally you
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Speaker 1: would think we look like absolute mugs, already having a
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Speaker 1: government think that switching to renewables and batteries and electric
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Speaker 1: cars wouldn't just work but would be more moral, when
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Speaker 1: in fact it means destroying our landscape and sentencing African
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Speaker 1: workers to hell. As Leam Bartlett showed, brilliantly last.
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Speaker 4: Men, women, even children forced to work in medieval conditions,
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Speaker 4: just so countries like Australia can have cobalt for our
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Speaker 4: renewable energy grid, like the thousands of massive batteries will
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Speaker 4: need to store all that wind and solar power. Tens
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Speaker 4: of thousands of some resistance or artisanal miners, a slave
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Speaker 4: labor army, live and die at places like Shabara mine.
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Speaker 4: To witness Shabara is to make you wonder where simple
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Speaker 4: humanity fits into the master plan of our government's renewable
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Speaker 4: energy policy. Almost eighty percent of the world's cobalt is
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Speaker 4: mined in places like this in this region, and the
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Speaker 4: Chinese are the criminals here, both for these people and
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Speaker 4: for the environment. But make no mistake, we're also contributing
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Speaker 4: to this.
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Speaker 1: Man made help.
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Speaker 4: An unknown number of workers were buried alive in this
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Speaker 4: mind collapse at Shabara late last year.
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Speaker 1: Good on Channel seven Spotlight for that show last night.
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Speaker 1: But all right, as I said, you think we're now
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Speaker 1: so stupid, we'd repent. But it gets even worse. Amazingly,
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Speaker 1: Australia signed up years ago to the International Court of Justice,
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Speaker 1: giving foreign judges of role in deciding what we do,
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Speaker 1: which I think is crazy. We also signed up to
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Speaker 1: the Paris Agreement to cut world emissions to the net zero,
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Speaker 1: which means cutting fossil fuels, including the fuels the Prime
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Speaker 1: ministers now begging Asia to send us. Now the trap
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Speaker 1: has sprung. Last year, that International Court of Justice unanimously
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Speaker 1: declared that countries like Australia had a legal duty to
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Speaker 1: stick by that Paris Agreement and all the other international
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Speaker 1: claimate agreements we blithely signed. Now, two quotes from that
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Speaker 1: advisory ruling will tell you what's a stake here. One,
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Speaker 1: that International Court warns that countries like Australia, states parties
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Speaker 1: to the Paris Agreement, have an obligation to pursue message
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Speaker 1: measures which are capable of achieving the objectives set out
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Speaker 1: in their nationally determined contributions. And it says if we don't,
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Speaker 1: will pay, because the legal consequences resulting from the commission
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Speaker 1: of an internationally wrongful act may include full reparation to
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Speaker 1: injured states in the form of restitution, compensation and satisfaction. Now,
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Speaker 1: already Vanuatu is senting the consuers for some of this
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Speaker 1: free climate money, and so are active as scroups. Now
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Speaker 1: you may think, oh, look at international Court. You know,
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Speaker 1: how do they get away with telling us to say
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Speaker 1: no to new coal mines and new oil and gas projects,
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Speaker 1: especially now when we're paying such a high price for
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Speaker 1: not having enough oil and petrol and diesel, and when
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Speaker 1: we're now even facing stateflation as a result. You know
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Speaker 1: that's both high inflation, low growth catastrophe. But hold your horses,
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Speaker 1: because enter our solicitor General, or to be precisely, Albanezy
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Speaker 1: Government's Solicitor General, Ruth Higgins, appointed just a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks ago with a lot of bally who about it
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Speaker 1: being the first woman in the job. Well, Higgins turns
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Speaker 1: out to have been commissioned last year by a climate
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Speaker 1: activist group called Climate Integrity to give a legal opinion
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Speaker 1: on what this International Court of Justice ruling would mean
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Speaker 1: for us. And she worked on that with two other
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Speaker 1: female lawyers, including climate activists Jennifer Robinson, who has represented
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Speaker 1: Vanuatu in this case and just loves this ruling.
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Speaker 5: This is a historic decision from the International Court of Justice.
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Speaker 5: It's a victory for climate justice, it's a victory for
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Speaker 5: the planet.
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Speaker 1: Now today, Higgins and here two legal colleagues publish their
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Speaker 1: joint opinion on what this International Court ruling means for Australia,
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Speaker 1: and a big surprise, they think it means plenty. Green
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Speaker 1: groups could hit new oil, gas and coal projects with
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Speaker 1: a wave of legal action citing this International Court of
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Speaker 1: Justice opinion. Company directors could be sued And they say
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Speaker 1: projects or I guess they mean, they actually mean should
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Speaker 1: not could should be strangled by governments acting in line
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Speaker 1: with international Court's advice. Yes, well, does that make sense
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Speaker 1: to you? The foreign judges, who don't have to live
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Speaker 1: here and suffer the consequences of their rulings can be
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Speaker 1: used right here by activists to smash our energy security
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Speaker 1: even more smash our standard of living. In fact, one
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Speaker 1: of the judges on this international court is from China,
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Speaker 1: the world's biggest emitter by far. I'd like to see
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Speaker 1: her apply this ruling to her home country. I don't
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Speaker 1: think she needs a pack of bags to go home.
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Speaker 1: Does it make sense that the liberal labor parties signed
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Speaker 1: up to mad frolics like the Paris Agreement, not realizing
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Speaker 1: that signed away our freedom to decide for ourselves how
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Speaker 1: to manage the inevitable energy crunch? From net zero. Now.
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Speaker 1: I know the Liberals have said, oh no, we're giving
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Speaker 1: up on this net zero target, but they still signed
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Speaker 1: up to the Paris Agreement, which the Albaneze government says
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Speaker 1: requires us to go zero BO twenty fifty, which this
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Speaker 1: court says we better uphold. And what a surprise. Now
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Speaker 1: the Albaniza government's usance of the generous warns that we
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Speaker 1: better be serious about all that slashing emissions from fossil fuels,
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Speaker 1: or will pay. And she states as a fact, by
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Speaker 1: the way, a fact, something that is not a legal opinion,
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Speaker 1: but what seems to me a global warming alarmist claim
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Speaker 1: that it is well established that climate change poses for
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Speaker 1: seeable risks of harm to most, if not all, Australian corporations. Really,
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's really causing threatening them with harm
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Speaker 1: is climate change policies causing infinitely more harm. As far
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Speaker 1: as I can see, It's true, Iran war is doing
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Speaker 1: a some harm, but that is a fraction of the
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Speaker 1: harm we're doing to ourselves. Now, the Abaniza government actually
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Speaker 1: backs the Paris Agreement, The Coalition backs the Paris Agreement,
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Speaker 1: the Greens back the Paris Agreement. The one party that
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Speaker 1: doesn't is one nation, One nation leader. Pauline Hanson joins
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Speaker 1: me now, Pauling, great to see you. The new Solicitor
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Speaker 1: General and illegal opinion, written before our appointment, says global
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Speaker 1: warming could likely hurt most Australian businesses, but then confirms
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Speaker 1: that what could really hurt them is this International Court
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Speaker 1: of Justice ruling. Could we use to see businesses for
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Speaker 1: not cutting emissions and also sue them into stopping coal
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Speaker 1: and gas projects? What should we do?
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Speaker 6: This really backs up my argument right from the very beginning.
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Speaker 6: We've got to get out of Paris Agreement. This is
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Speaker 6: an international body. Why are we bound to it?
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Speaker 7: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: We should get out of that as well. Andrew, we're
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Speaker 6: a sovereign nation. We should not allow anyone else for
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Speaker 6: telling us how to run a country. The impact is
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Speaker 6: going to have and ask let me just explain to
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Speaker 6: your viewers. In the year of twenty twenty three, our
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Speaker 6: exports in resources was four hundred and fifty five billion dollars.
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Speaker 6: In twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven, it will be
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Speaker 6: three hundred and eighty five billion a year. You've got
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Speaker 6: about one hundred billion a year that is paid.
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Speaker 7: In corporate tax.
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Speaker 6: Plus also pay tax and employs one point five one
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Speaker 6: million people approximately throughout Australia.
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Speaker 7: That brings about.
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Speaker 6: Nine to ten percent of our GDP, which pays for
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Speaker 6: our hospitals, our infrastructure and our social security. If we
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Speaker 6: actually shut it all down in Australia, we'll be a
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Speaker 6: third world country, have no doubt about it. The share
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Speaker 6: stupidity of this whole thing. And now with the oil crisis,
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Speaker 6: we can't get the oil here. Albanese is out there
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Speaker 6: seeking oil when we have it here in our own
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Speaker 6: country with our own resources. I'll keep saying it. Get
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Speaker 6: out of the Paris agreement, do not go down the
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Speaker 6: path net zero. It is destroying our nation. We will
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Speaker 6: have pool living condition if we keep heading down this path.
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Speaker 6: And to say that it's going to be tied to
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Speaker 6: ongoing production consumption, you know, licenses and also subsidies paid
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Speaker 6: to anyone else, and it's going to be tied up
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Speaker 6: in our legislation, environmental legislation. What are we doing to
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Speaker 6: comply with the reduction in climate temperature by two percent
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Speaker 6: to one half percent? Andrew climate They say it's the
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Speaker 6: latest scientific data. There is no scientific datas that there's
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Speaker 6: human emissions, add to climate change. It's all modeled on
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Speaker 6: computer modeling. There's no truth in this whatsoever, and we're
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Speaker 6: paying the price for it.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't doubt the fact that human emissions do
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Speaker 1: contribute to global warming. I don't know quite how much.
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Speaker 1: I don't suspect this that much. And also I dispute
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Speaker 1: whether it's proven that overall it's worth trying to stop.
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Speaker 1: In fact, some of the benefits, as you know, is
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Speaker 1: the greening of the planet. Is that bad? Should we
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Speaker 1: stop that? We've had fewer cyclones? Is that bad? Should
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Speaker 1: we stop that? But Pauline, can I switch to a
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Speaker 1: couple of other topics. First, Ben Robert Smith, Australia's most
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Speaker 1: decorated soldier, yesterday gave a press conference declaring his innocence
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Speaker 1: after being charged with five villeged war crimes involved in
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Speaker 1: the shooting of unarmed prisoners and Afghanistan.
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Speaker 8: Here is, as I've always maintained, I categorically deny all
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Speaker 8: of these allegations. I understand this journey will be long.
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Speaker 8: I understand this journey will be difficult, but I can
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Speaker 8: promise everybody that I have never run from a fight
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Speaker 8: in my life. I will never give up, and I
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Speaker 8: will always be in the fight.
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Speaker 1: Now, Pauline, you've been very vocal in support of Ben
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Speaker 1: Robert Smith, and when it comes to things like is
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Speaker 1: the rest in front of his children? I thought it
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Speaker 1: was disgusting without speculating on about guilt or innocence. Now
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Speaker 1: that it's before the courts, do you think it's time
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Speaker 1: now to say nothing, to just leave it to the
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Speaker 1: courts when you've got court documents scenarioly showing that three
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Speaker 1: soldiers have given evidence they allegedly shot prisoners on Robert
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Speaker 1: Smith's orders, and that all the alleged executions occurred allegedly
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Speaker 1: when there was no battle going on and each prisoner
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Speaker 1: had been handcuffed.
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Speaker 6: I can't comment on that, whether it's the truth or
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Speaker 6: not the truth. And these men, for I believe it's
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Speaker 6: four men have been given impunity so they won't be
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Speaker 6: charged over this and won't face any war crimes themselves
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Speaker 6: for their evidence. So I don't know. Andrew, there's a
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Speaker 6: case now, he's been.
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Speaker 7: Brought before the courts. It's up the courts now, and
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Speaker 7: I hope he gets a fair trial.
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Speaker 6: I still support Ben Robert Smith and what he says,
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Speaker 6: and I just feel that I've never worn his shoes
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Speaker 6: either has anyone else to really know the truth behind
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Speaker 6: all this. So I just hope that he gets a
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Speaker 6: fair trial. Where they're going to get the evidence. Are
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Speaker 6: they going to you know, these people from Afghanistan. Are
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Speaker 6: they going to come out and give evidence. Who knows
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Speaker 6: what's going to happen, But I think they should more
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Speaker 6: heads to roll over this.
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Speaker 1: Pauline, you were in my neighborhood on the weekend, Victoria's
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Speaker 1: Bornington Peninsula, campaigning in the by election for the state
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Speaker 1: seat of Nepean. You were treated like a rock star.
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Speaker 1: I got to say. I know it was reported, but
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Speaker 1: listen to this. Now, it's true that one white woman
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Speaker 1: abused who had a racist as one of your press conferences,
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Speaker 1: although funnily enough she got confronted by an Indian support
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Speaker 1: of yours. Listen to this. We're all racists.
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Speaker 9: Where's why I wish I had my shirt on right now.
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Speaker 6: Immigrants and every immigrant that comes to be closing the
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Speaker 6: door behind them.
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Speaker 1: Pauline, this state by election I made too. It's the
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Speaker 1: next test of one nation. Of course, I headed the
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Speaker 1: federal election in Pharaoh by election Pharaoh a week later.
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Speaker 1: How do you raise your chances of Victoria.
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Speaker 6: Look, I think it's it'll be an interesting election to
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Speaker 6: in the seat of Nepean talking to the people of Victoria,
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Speaker 6: your home state. They're all desperate for change. They want
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Speaker 6: to get rid of the Labor Party. They've had enough
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Speaker 6: of them. Businesses are going under. This fellow is standing
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Speaker 6: for us. He's actually an engineering construction engineer. His business
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Speaker 6: is going under. He's had to put a four people.
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Speaker 6: I'm hearing it all the time. Land taxes is destroying businesses,
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Speaker 6: even private property owners. It's snouching grab down there, the
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Speaker 6: escalating crime.
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Speaker 7: People are desperate for change.
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Speaker 6: A lot of people are leaving the state to come
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Speaker 6: up to Queensland actually because they want to get away
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Speaker 6: from it. Tax to the hilt, there's no security, no safety,
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Speaker 6: no job security. It's a basket case, Andrew, it really is.
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Speaker 6: And you used to want to live there. So it
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Speaker 6: needs help, big help. And I hope that we can
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Speaker 6: implement policies to give some direction for the people in
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Speaker 6: Victory because they screaming out for it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't rub that bit in about where I live, Pauline.
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Speaker 1: It hurts at the moment that said. You know, I
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Speaker 1: just shout you got treated pretty well, it was just
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Speaker 1: a reporter saying it. I showed the clip that said
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Speaker 1: two poles that I showed a slight dip in your support,
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Speaker 1: although it's obviously still very high. I mean use pole
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Speaker 1: as your primary vote. Down two points to twenty four,
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Speaker 1: still ahead of the Liberals, and the Resolve poll also
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Speaker 1: has you down two, Labor up three, and the Coalition
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Speaker 1: up one. I read commentator saying that we've now seen
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Speaker 1: peak one nation. How do you read the polls.
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Speaker 6: Look, let's see what's happening. I said, it's like the
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Speaker 6: stock market. You're up one day and down the next,
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Speaker 6: and that's what the polling is. The true polling will
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Speaker 6: be on election day. We'll see that what happens in
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Speaker 6: Victoria on the second of May, and in far on the.
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Speaker 7: On the ninth of May as well.
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Speaker 6: So, Andrew, you know, I've had a lot of negativity
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Speaker 6: that's thrown at the party last couple of weeks. But
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Speaker 6: another thing is that Taylor Angus Taylor Liberal Party released
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Speaker 6: immigration policy that's right out of my playbook, right out
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Speaker 6: of my policies. So they've taken a lot of things
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Speaker 6: that I've been saying over years. But the difference between
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Speaker 6: the liberals and myself, they won't deliver it. They haven't
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Speaker 6: got the guts to deliver, to go hard on those
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Speaker 6: ones that are in the country illegally, to cut right
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Speaker 6: back on immigration, to deal with the foreign students, the
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Speaker 6: working visa they have, the abns, and the people overstaying
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Speaker 6: their visas in the nation. So we really have to
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Speaker 6: get tough on immigration if we want to get the
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Speaker 6: country back on track.
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Speaker 7: And that's what One Nation will do.
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Speaker 1: Well. Just touching on the first thing you alluded to,
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Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce says suggested that one Nation is paying the
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Speaker 1: price in part as you said, for having hired a
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Speaker 1: convicted rapists in your head office. Is he right?
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Speaker 6: No, it's not right, and that you know, paying the
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Speaker 6: price and the polls for this. It's been a combination
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Speaker 6: of different things that's happened over the past weekations that
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Speaker 6: have been directed at myself and the party. Again, it's
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Speaker 6: the same false allegations that happens all the time, you know,
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Speaker 6: recopied more than any other political party from the media
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Speaker 6: especially who are left leaning in their bias towards One Nation.
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Speaker 6: But I hope the people are seeing through all that
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Speaker 6: and will you judge us on our performance and our policies.
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Speaker 6: That's the main thing. Who was prepared to turn it around. Lastly,
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Speaker 6: the voters, are you happy with what you've got in
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Speaker 6: the last five to ten years. If not, then the
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Speaker 6: government you've got is not delivering for you and the
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Speaker 6: future generations.
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Speaker 7: And this is what people must reflect on.
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Speaker 1: Paul In Hanson, good to talk to you. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for your time after the break the panel. Now,
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Speaker 1: one underreported thing about those two poles that talk to
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Speaker 1: Pauline Hanson about it said, the Coalition under new leader
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Speaker 1: Angus Taylor, still can't catch up to Labor. They still
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Speaker 1: can't make any ground on an incompetent Albanezi government at all,
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Speaker 1: and they would get smash still if an election were held. Now,
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Speaker 1: join me and Michael Kroger, former president of Victorian Liberals,
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Speaker 1: the Steve Connor, who former Labor senator and Covenant minister,
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Speaker 1: the Michael Kroger. Why isn't the coalition cutting through even
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Speaker 1: now under a new leader with what seems a united team.
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Speaker 9: Well, Taylor's done a very good job at stays stabilizing
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Speaker 9: the vote, but Andrew the Coalition's vote won increase until
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Speaker 9: such time as it plays its cards for its number
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Speaker 9: one brand equity, and that's tax, the economy, regulation, et cetera,
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Speaker 9: et cetera, business industrial relations, you know, a plan to
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Speaker 9: get Australia back on track after this disastrous period we've
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Speaker 9: been in greenwashing for the last twenty years. Look at
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Speaker 9: this way. The Green votes twep percent, it's not going
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Speaker 9: to change. The Labour votes low thirties, well, it's the
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Speaker 9: lowest have of vote in election is thirty two point six,
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Speaker 9: so it can't go much lower twelve and thirty two
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Speaker 9: thirty one, which are locked in forty three forty four
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Speaker 9: percent to the left. The coalition can only win votes
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Speaker 9: back from one nation. That's where it's got to get
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Speaker 9: its votes back from. It's got to win one nation
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Speaker 9: voters back. And the big hole in the one nation
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Speaker 9: policy offering is it doesn't have an economic spokesman. Until
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Speaker 9: such time as it does that, it's never going to
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Speaker 9: get more than the votes it's roughly got now. So
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Speaker 9: when the Coalition plays its number one trump card, and
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Speaker 9: it's got to be a big economic reform, not not
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Speaker 9: just fiddling at the edges, it's going to be stuck
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Speaker 9: in the load of mid twenties and you know, the
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Speaker 9: sooner it releases a grand reform for the Australian economy,
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Speaker 9: Andrew the better.
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Speaker 1: Steve Connor, do you see that way? Yeah?
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Speaker 10: No, I think Michael's made very good points. I think
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Speaker 10: that the problem for Angus Taylor he looks and sounds
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Speaker 10: like more of the same, whereas and Andrew Hasty looks
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Speaker 10: and sound different and he's got lots of experience. So
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Speaker 10: I think Taylor struggles at the moment because the media
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Speaker 10: want to quote on something. They've got a paul In Hanson, Barner, Rejoyce,
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Speaker 10: Matt Canavan and eventually they get to Angus Taylor if
21:07
Speaker 10: all the others are unavailable. So I think he's struggling
21:11
Speaker 10: to really create an impression in the Australian public's mind.
21:15
Speaker 10: And you know, he might need some big bang economic
21:20
Speaker 10: style policy that Michael's talking about. But Andrew Hasty is
21:22
Speaker 10: out there with very different set of economic policies. He's
21:27
Speaker 10: articulated himself. Him and Angers had a chat, but I'm
21:32
Speaker 10: not sure if Michael supports the sort of policies being
21:36
Speaker 10: argued by Andrew Hasty. So I think it's I think
21:45
Speaker 10: it's a really asking.
21:46
Speaker 1: Time Michael Andrew hasty did just step out of his lane.
21:53
Speaker 1: He got talked to his back in a box. You
21:56
Speaker 1: don't hear much of him at the moment. I thought
21:58
Speaker 1: a couple of things is said shows not quite finished
22:04
Speaker 1: ready for the big time yet. But what do you
22:05
Speaker 1: make of what it's been saying or what he did
22:08
Speaker 1: say until he shut up?
22:11
Speaker 9: Well, we like people who've got challenging ideas and who
22:14
Speaker 9: challenged the status quo. But I don't think in rewrite
22:18
Speaker 9: the rules of economics. I mean Charmers tried to do
22:20
Speaker 9: that in an article a few months ago. Rudd tried
22:22
Speaker 9: to do it. The economic reality stick of life. Will
22:25
Speaker 9: that you in the head if you ignore the basic
22:27
Speaker 9: rules of you know, monitoring fiscal policy. And this is
22:31
Speaker 9: where I think Taylor's are traditionalists. In the Howard Costello mold,
22:36
Speaker 9: we need massive regulatory deregulation in this country, the like
22:40
Speaker 9: of which we've never seen before. I mean approvals for
22:42
Speaker 9: ten or fifteen years for minds, really make it two years, right,
22:46
Speaker 9: We've got to massively clean up the public sector all
22:49
Speaker 9: these approvals which are taking more than a decade. Is
22:52
Speaker 9: this an absurdity? We have to restart industry in this country.
22:55
Speaker 9: There are all these industries, as you've pointed out over
22:57
Speaker 9: the years, and that are enclosed down by in a
23:00
Speaker 9: green extremists. You know, the Liberal Party's got to be bold,
23:03
Speaker 9: it's got to have courage, You've got to pick a fight.
23:05
Speaker 9: You can't just accept all of the shutdown of Australia.
23:09
Speaker 9: You know, there was years ago as a book out
23:11
Speaker 9: called shutdown and that's basically what's happened to Australia. So
23:14
Speaker 9: there are big, big ideas to drag Australia out of
23:17
Speaker 9: out of the out of the message in And I
23:19
Speaker 9: saw that clip from the interview with Peter Krelin and
23:23
Speaker 9: Peter Costello tomorrow night where Peter Costello was saying the
23:26
Speaker 9: Singapore ands us must think it's very odd that Australia,
23:29
Speaker 9: with its vast land mass and its massive resources are
23:32
Speaker 9: coming to a little Singapore asking for oil. And I
23:34
Speaker 9: think I think, I think Peter was absolutely right. I mean,
23:38
Speaker 9: given that they get oil from overseas as we know,
23:40
Speaker 9: but there's a great irony and a great irony in
23:42
Speaker 9: that full the Energy Minister saying no, no country in
23:49
Speaker 9: the world has been asking for more, No country in
23:53
Speaker 9: the world's been asking for more fossil fuels like sapt
23:56
Speaker 9: Anthony Albanezi, who's been overseas asking for oil. I mean,
24:00
Speaker 9: what a chaotic farce. And this is this is the
24:02
Speaker 9: opportunity for a bold liberal party under Angus Taylor. The
24:06
Speaker 9: guy's a brilliant guy academically obviously everyone knows, the Rhodes scholar.
24:10
Speaker 1: You know.
24:10
Speaker 9: If he's got the courage to take this country, you
24:12
Speaker 9: know Ford, then they can get back those one nation votes,
24:16
Speaker 9: damp it down, the labor vote of it, and win
24:18
Speaker 9: the election. The Greens twelve yeah, twelve at of fruit.
24:21
Speaker 9: I'll never get them.
24:23
Speaker 1: You could be right, you could be right, But I
24:25
Speaker 1: think Steven's onto something. When you know, nature is a
24:29
Speaker 1: cruel thing and people that don't command a camera, what
24:32
Speaker 1: can you do. He doesn't command the cameras and it's
24:36
Speaker 1: really hard, whereas Andrew Hasey does, even if what he
24:39
Speaker 1: says may not be actually as smooth. That is what
24:41
Speaker 1: Angus Taylor would say.
24:42
Speaker 9: It's just trans to Malcolm never commanded the camera.
24:46
Speaker 1: On That was nineteen seventy seven.
24:49
Speaker 9: Well, I don't know that John Howard was you know John,
24:52
Speaker 9: that was Robert Redford either, So.
24:54
Speaker 1: No, no, Malcolm, Malcolm Fraser still had this sense of
24:57
Speaker 1: being in command. Right. You might have thought he he's
25:00
Speaker 1: a bastard, but for some people that they were, he
25:03
Speaker 1: was their bastard. So that's all right. A bit like Trump.
25:06
Speaker 1: We now have the Stephen. We now have the Hong
25:09
Speaker 1: Kong and Shanghai Bank forecasting stagflation for Australia by June.
25:15
Speaker 1: The falling growth, higher inflation. Part of this cause, of course,
25:18
Speaker 1: by Iran closing the Persian straight to oil tanker's but
25:21
Speaker 1: not all. The thing is, though, what I don't get
25:25
Speaker 1: is why Australia refuses to help break that iranium blockade.
25:30
Speaker 1: Here is foreign Missipenny Wong the scar today making clear
25:34
Speaker 1: will only help after the war, when there's actually nothing
25:37
Speaker 1: left to do.
25:38
Speaker 11: Issues post the conflict, post what we hope is a
25:42
Speaker 11: negotiated resolution, How do we work together diplomatically and militarily
25:48
Speaker 11: to keep the straight open and to keep this vital
25:52
Speaker 11: fuel supply to the world continuing.
25:55
Speaker 2: Why aren't we putting up our hands to offer some
25:58
Speaker 2: form of military assistance, a naval ship or anything like
26:01
Speaker 2: that with the US, given that they are well, the
26:04
Speaker 2: government still insists they're our closest ally.
26:10
Speaker 12: Andrew, we've responded to what we've to the requests that
26:13
Speaker 12: have been made, and we are also working with other
26:16
Speaker 12: countries about what we do when there is a negotiated
26:23
Speaker 12: outcome to ensure that the Strait remains open.
26:27
Speaker 1: While waffle, waffle, waffle, Stephen, is this smart to be
26:31
Speaker 1: mere spectators in a war that we badly need the
26:35
Speaker 1: US to win?
26:38
Speaker 10: Andrew, as you know, we both and Michael all want
26:42
Speaker 10: Trump to succeed in this plan, but you cannot. And
26:48
Speaker 10: I'll be polite about Trump. You know, his daily thought bubbles,
26:54
Speaker 10: which just are unmoored from what's actually happening, do not
26:59
Speaker 10: make it easy to be able to make a sensible,
27:03
Speaker 10: coherent decision. So everyone's just standing back watching going. You
27:09
Speaker 10: don't know what he's doing on a day to day basis.
27:11
Speaker 10: I will shoot off blaming attacking NATO, he attacks Japan,
27:15
Speaker 10: he attacks South Korea. He doesn't consult, He just expects
27:19
Speaker 10: you follow along like a poodle and definitely don't contradict him.
27:23
Speaker 10: And so this is not a reliable partner to enter
27:28
Speaker 10: conflict with.
27:29
Speaker 13: We want him to, but he there is one partner.
27:35
Speaker 1: There is one country that finds him reliable, one country
27:38
Speaker 1: that is in partnership with him. One country that is
27:41
Speaker 1: right in with him on this.
27:42
Speaker 9: Warm Well, Andrew, I regard this as World War three
27:49
Speaker 9: and Australia have but.
27:51
Speaker 1: I'm talking about insta. Israel can do it.
27:55
Speaker 9: We know, don't worry. We got the point. We know
27:57
Speaker 9: what you're talking about. This is World War three. That's
28:02
Speaker 9: that's how I look at it. That's how a lot
28:03
Speaker 9: of people who follow this seriously look at it. It's
28:07
Speaker 9: not just Trump on a frolic of his own. He's
28:09
Speaker 9: doing what what? Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Barack
28:15
Speaker 9: Obama all said, you know, Iraan, Iran cannot have a
28:19
Speaker 9: nuclear weapon. What do they do about it? Nothing?
28:21
Speaker 1: Not a couple of bushes.
28:22
Speaker 9: Nothing, and a couple of bushes. Yeah the bushes were
28:25
Speaker 9: in there too. Yeah. Nothing. So Trumps has done what
28:28
Speaker 9: no other American president has done. All right, no other
28:31
Speaker 9: emperi president done. I agree. We could have we could
28:34
Speaker 9: have done We could have done something. And by the way,
28:36
Speaker 9: why do you always need to be asked? You could
28:39
Speaker 9: offer to help as a as a thought, Penny Wong.
28:45
Speaker 1: And look if you I think, if yous is here,
28:49
Speaker 1: you know cause by Iran blocking the straight uphim was
28:52
Speaker 1: illegally that you would think one thing we could do
28:55
Speaker 1: it's not just hand out lots of compensation financially that
28:59
Speaker 1: borrowed money, is go and help clear the danger. I
29:03
Speaker 1: would have thought. But anyway, there I go. Michael Kroger,
29:06
Speaker 1: stevehn Connor, thank you very much to you both. After
29:09
Speaker 1: the break, the Run's regime is actually split. As Donald
29:13
Speaker 1: Trump says, no more, nice guy. I see a lot
29:19
Speaker 1: of media reports about this war which make the same
29:23
Speaker 1: big mistake. They say Aroun says this, or Run says that, Well,
29:29
Speaker 1: that's wrong. The Iranian regime does not speak with one voice.
29:34
Speaker 1: This is an important point because the pressure from Donald
29:37
Speaker 1: Trump is actually causing a massive split between the more
29:40
Speaker 1: pragmatic regime leaders like he Runs President, It's Foreign Minister,
29:45
Speaker 1: Speaker of Parliament, who want a piece deal before their
29:47
Speaker 1: country is smashed completely, and mannic hardliners on the other
29:52
Speaker 1: hand in the Revolutionary Guard Corps who want to keep
29:56
Speaker 1: fighting whatever, especially it's leaders second from the right, Ahmed Vahedi.
30:00
Speaker 1: Now that is why, for instance, we got Iran's farmers
30:03
Speaker 1: so last week tweeting her yes around It's now leading
30:06
Speaker 1: commercial ships through the Strait of for moves again. But
30:09
Speaker 1: then when some tankers try sailing, oh, they are the
30:12
Speaker 1: Islamic privilege reguard Colled Navy attacks them. And that's also
30:17
Speaker 1: why the speaker of Iran's parliament, Mohammed Bagheer Galibov, went
30:22
Speaker 1: on Iranian TV on the weekend to say that wanting
30:24
Speaker 1: to talk peace with the US did not make him
30:27
Speaker 1: and the foreign minister traitors, like hardliners suggest in Iranian newspapers.
30:33
Speaker 14: People must understand that I am a remnant of the fighters.
30:39
Speaker 14: Undoubtedly for me there is no achievement, but martyrdom know
30:44
Speaker 14: that today. Whether it's negotiation papers or the very map
30:49
Speaker 14: of the battlefield, they are both the same. To me,
30:52
Speaker 14: I am ready to give my life.
30:56
Speaker 1: So will there be peace talks in Pakistan next Monday?
31:00
Speaker 1: Off be there? Some Iranian leaders say no, there won't
31:02
Speaker 1: be talks. Others say suggests that maybe they will. And
31:06
Speaker 1: Trump is me while parting on the economic pressure and
31:08
Speaker 1: all of them by warning you run that it is
31:09
Speaker 1: offering a fair deel. If Iran doesn't take it, he'll
31:12
Speaker 1: knock out every bridge and power plant. No more missed
31:15
Speaker 1: than nice guy. And Trump is also maintaining his punishing
31:18
Speaker 1: blockade of all ships trying to smuggle out of Iranian
31:21
Speaker 1: oil and other cargoes. The US Navy even fired and
31:24
Speaker 1: miss out through the engine room of one which refused
31:27
Speaker 1: to stop. Vacate your engineer, vacate your engineering. We're prepared
31:35
Speaker 1: to subject you to the SEMBL and fire M troops
31:58
Speaker 1: then repelled on board the ship from helicopters that took
32:01
Speaker 1: it over, and interestingly enough, the rgc's Navy didn't or
32:06
Speaker 1: couldn't do a thing about it. They said, oh, we
32:09
Speaker 1: can't because there's family members of the crew on board
32:12
Speaker 1: that ship. Yeah, right, join me. Is the country stuff.
32:15
Speaker 1: Foreign affairs writer Greg Sheridan of the Australian newspaper Greg,
32:19
Speaker 1: Trump has not extended the two weeks ease far, which
32:23
Speaker 1: ends next Wednesday our time. Do you think there's going
32:26
Speaker 1: to be a piece of deal, a ceas far extension
32:30
Speaker 1: or more bombing.
32:32
Speaker 3: Well, Andrew, that's greatfully with you, and I do outline
32:36
Speaker 3: the various options in the Australian tomorrow, but no one
32:41
Speaker 3: can possibly condict. I think it's very good that there
32:45
Speaker 3: are signs of division in the Iranian Government's very very good. However,
32:49
Speaker 3: it's not clear that the so called moderates want to
32:52
Speaker 3: do a deal. It is clear that they want to
32:53
Speaker 3: have a negotiation, and historically the presidency has been a
32:58
Speaker 3: very towel of in Iran. The other thing is, I
33:03
Speaker 3: am inclined to agree with John Bolton, whom I Botin
33:05
Speaker 3: interviewed and who was Trump's national security advisor in the
33:08
Speaker 3: first administration.
33:10
Speaker 15: But the more extreme Trump's threats are, the less frightening
33:14
Speaker 15: they are. And there's a long record the more extreme
33:19
Speaker 15: Trump's rhetoric is, you know, he's going to rain fire
33:21
Speaker 15: and fury on North Korea and he was going to
33:24
Speaker 15: end Persian civilization. Now, Bolton argues that the Iranians interpret
33:31
Speaker 15: those remarks as a sign of political penic on the
33:34
Speaker 15: part of Trump, and Trump rarely acts when he talks
33:37
Speaker 15: like that. He's more likely to act in surprise when
33:41
Speaker 15: he hasn't spoken at all. The other thing is he
33:44
Speaker 15: said again that he'll wipe out every single electricity generating
33:48
Speaker 15: plant in Iran. When he said that before, the American
33:51
Speaker 15: military actually prepared him a much smaller list of targets
33:55
Speaker 15: of energy plants which had direct military application, because in
34:00
Speaker 15: purely civilian infrastructure is against the American laws of war.
34:06
Speaker 15: So I would just say this conflict, there's no guarantee
34:10
Speaker 15: of Trump said that, there's no guarantee of Trump's success.
34:13
Speaker 15: It's overwhelmingly in the interests of every civilized human being.
34:17
Speaker 15: But the United States and Israel succeed in this matter.
34:20
Speaker 15: But you know, you could get a deal where the
34:23
Speaker 15: Americans make a ridiculous concession. You could get a deal
34:26
Speaker 15: where they charge tolls on ships going through the Straight
34:29
Speaker 15: of bull News, which Trump has sometimes suggested. Or you
34:32
Speaker 15: could get a deal where Iran makes big concessions, surrenders
34:36
Speaker 15: some of it's enriched uranium and promises not to blockade
34:39
Speaker 15: straight again. And then whatever deal you get, who on earth?
34:44
Speaker 15: You know how much faith do we have that the
34:46
Speaker 15: deal will hold? So I think it's a maximum uncertainty,
34:50
Speaker 15: and we're sure going to know a lot more in
34:52
Speaker 15: three or four days time.
34:55
Speaker 1: Greg, I'd love to keep going, but the audio has
34:59
Speaker 1: suddenly played up badly, So we'll come back to you
35:02
Speaker 1: with more time next week when we actually know more
35:05
Speaker 1: about whether these peace talks are going have gone down
35:09
Speaker 1: or not. Thank you very much. After the break, Mega
35:13
Speaker 1: Markle flogs the clothes you wore, actually paying tribute to
35:17
Speaker 1: the dead at Bondai Prince Harry Megamarkell into their fake
35:24
Speaker 1: royal tour of Australia on the weekend, after showing how
35:28
Speaker 1: much they've pushed the line and exploiting what they in
35:31
Speaker 1: fact never earned, which is their royal titles. Now I
35:36
Speaker 1: do get it. I mean, my wife keeps telling me
35:38
Speaker 1: they did give joy to some people on their trip,
35:40
Speaker 1: so you know, or rather they gave them the thrill
35:43
Speaker 1: of meeting a celebrity, and they flogged some of the
35:47
Speaker 1: good causes like you know, visiting sick children and a
35:50
Speaker 1: woman's shelter, which royals do. And good on them for that,
35:54
Speaker 1: But I still wonder how much of that was genuine
35:57
Speaker 1: disinterested charity work or simply exploitation that cheapens the British Royalty.
36:03
Speaker 1: You take their outing to Bondai on Friday, which included
36:07
Speaker 1: a tribute to the people massacred there in December. Now
36:10
Speaker 1: note Mega Markle's shirt as she walks there and then
36:14
Speaker 1: went on a yacht later. Now Markel on a trip
36:18
Speaker 1: must have worn three or four outfits a day because
36:20
Speaker 1: she's an investor and a participant on a website called
36:24
Speaker 1: one Off, where celebrities like posting what they were wearing,
36:29
Speaker 1: with links on how to buy exactly the same stuff
36:33
Speaker 1: and giving themselves a cut of the proceeds. So Bondai
36:38
Speaker 1: Meghan is there on Meghan's Markle's own page with links
36:43
Speaker 1: to her shoes, her pants and that shirt which you
36:46
Speaker 1: can buy for four hundred and forty dollars US. Or
36:50
Speaker 1: you take caring Meghan helping philanthropists in Melbourne and helping
36:55
Speaker 1: herself by promoting sales of her belt, her shoes, her
36:59
Speaker 1: pants and a glove top which is two hundred and
37:02
Speaker 1: eighty eight dollars US. Or then there's Princess Meghan. What
37:07
Speaker 1: to wear when you're hand in hand with a prince
37:10
Speaker 1: walking down an Australian street. You can get the same
37:14
Speaker 1: ring she's got, or the same tights and dress and
37:17
Speaker 1: shoes which happen to be seven hundred and twenty five
37:21
Speaker 1: dollars US a pair wool and even at that price
37:25
Speaker 1: now sold out. You're to be and Lisa Goddard, former
37:28
Speaker 1: foreign correspondent, founder of Vidoni Media, a scone you host
37:32
Speaker 1: t Nika di Georgia, Lisa, even Harry and Meghan. I
37:35
Speaker 1: got it. They have to earn a wage, yes, yes,
37:39
Speaker 1: but is this a fair enough way to earn it.
37:41
Speaker 5: Look, Andrew, they left the Royal Family because they didn't
37:44
Speaker 5: want to do the curated events and all of the
37:46
Speaker 5: opposit that would give her all the eyeballs that she
37:49
Speaker 5: has around the world on her now, which eventually, as
37:51
Speaker 5: you say, make her money. Now, if you look at
37:53
Speaker 5: Princess Kate, she breaks the Internet when she goes out
37:57
Speaker 5: because people see what she's wearing, and she can't help
38:00
Speaker 5: people wanting to be like her and buy what she's wearing.
38:03
Speaker 5: Meghan has seen that there's an opportunity in this. Not
38:05
Speaker 5: only has she invested, she's created effectively, what a checkout
38:09
Speaker 5: button that you can just go along, push it there
38:11
Speaker 5: you are, You're just like Meghan Markle. Isn't it grand?
38:14
Speaker 5: But look, I think the only good in any of
38:16
Speaker 5: this is the fact that she has put some Australian
38:19
Speaker 5: designers in the spotlight and on the world stage, and
38:22
Speaker 5: that does help them immensely. But as you say, she
38:25
Speaker 5: left the Royal Family because she didn't want the attention,
38:27
Speaker 5: and yet here we are stuck with her, so we're
38:30
Speaker 5: just as guilty. Look, we're still talking about it.
38:34
Speaker 1: Dinikins, Georgia, what did you make of it? You know.
38:37
Speaker 1: So she's in a hospital doing the caring act. Is
38:39
Speaker 1: she there for the clothes? This is what you get
38:41
Speaker 1: when you play Nurse Meghan or is it there to
38:44
Speaker 1: put a smile on children's faces.
38:46
Speaker 16: I like the way you had to go through all
38:48
Speaker 16: the items there, Andrew, I thought that was great. Well,
38:51
Speaker 16: the only thing that's not up on that app at
38:53
Speaker 16: the moment is her spare handbag.
38:55
Speaker 13: Husband Prince Harry himself. I'm shopped. He hasn't got a
38:58
Speaker 13: mention on the app.
39:00
Speaker 16: To be honest, Look, this was a cash for wear scheme.
39:04
Speaker 16: That's what they were operating here in Australia, because, let's
39:06
Speaker 16: be honest, every single venture that these two have touched
39:08
Speaker 16: has been a complete failure.
39:10
Speaker 13: You know, the Netflix series.
39:11
Speaker 16: The documentaries, the podcast, the Christmas special, all disasters. So
39:15
Speaker 16: they need the money, so they've come to Australia using
39:18
Speaker 16: it as their own private atm and as a cash cow. Now,
39:21
Speaker 16: don't forget when she went to that women's shelter the
39:23
Speaker 16: other day in Melbourne and also at the hospital, that
39:26
Speaker 16: dress Andrew cost twelve hundred dollars. She was wearing Christian
39:30
Speaker 16: d Or pumps, saying price she had the Cartier jewelry
39:33
Speaker 16: on the Tiffany bracelet and the earrings, and of course
39:36
Speaker 16: all went onto this AI platform.
39:38
Speaker 13: She knew what she was doing.
39:39
Speaker 16: If this was Princess Catherine, I'm sure that she would
39:42
Speaker 16: have gone to this woman's homeless shelter wearing very low
39:44
Speaker 16: key clothing to be one of them. To me, it's
39:47
Speaker 16: just a grubby and disgusting that she's basically exploited the
39:51
Speaker 16: plight of these women so that she can sell herself
39:54
Speaker 16: on the internet and make some money. I think this
39:56
Speaker 16: whole trip was an absolute facade. It was a joke,
40:00
Speaker 16: the quasi royal tour. I don't know whether or not
40:03
Speaker 16: they had the heart to genuinely want to be here,
40:05
Speaker 16: or was it because they were just being paid. Because
40:07
Speaker 16: there are reports that they could earn up to ten
40:10
Speaker 16: million dollars from sponsorships and appearances all together over this
40:14
Speaker 16: over the four days, so you know, quite frankly, Meghan's
40:17
Speaker 16: outfit is only just a small fraction of this whole
40:20
Speaker 16: money grabbing tour of Australia.
40:23
Speaker 1: But will no one on this show speak up for
40:25
Speaker 1: Mega Markel Lisa, My wife keeps telling me, the poor
40:29
Speaker 1: woman has to earn a back. What's wrong with earning
40:32
Speaker 1: it this way.
40:33
Speaker 5: Look, no one wanted her jam, so she had to
40:35
Speaker 5: do something at the end of the day, didn't she.
40:39
Speaker 5: People do want to see her, but they're seeing her
40:40
Speaker 5: now as more of a celebrity.
40:42
Speaker 13: I think that a rule.
40:43
Speaker 5: She's still trading on the royal family, but they see
40:46
Speaker 5: her as a celebrity, and I think that the greatest
40:49
Speaker 5: faux parable and de nigger pushback if you think I'm
40:51
Speaker 5: wrong on this, But for goodness sake, is she seriously
40:54
Speaker 5: going delete a trend again where we have to tie
40:56
Speaker 5: up the button up shirt?
40:57
Speaker 13: I think that's good.
40:58
Speaker 5: That's the greatest crime against question that.
40:59
Speaker 13: Was on this way. That's a good point. Last, that
41:02
Speaker 13: is a good point. But you know what the thing is,
41:04
Speaker 13: people will buy this stuff.
41:06
Speaker 16: Where people do They go on and they go on
41:08
Speaker 16: and there are other platforms like this as well. Andrew,
41:11
Speaker 16: I'm not sure if you're familiar, we're influencers. They do
41:13
Speaker 16: the same thing and these women are raking it in.
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Speaker 16: They are making a lot of money from it.
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Speaker 5: The fast fashion will be very busy at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I don't know our you two ladies an
41:22
Speaker 1: in on that stem. If it's out there but anyway, Lisa,
41:26
Speaker 1: the Victorian Labor government, it's so into identity politics right
41:32
Speaker 1: that it doesn't just have a Minister for women. It
41:36
Speaker 1: now has a Minister for Men and Boys as of
41:40
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, although it really is more
41:42
Speaker 1: like this guy, this sad Sacker is now the Minister
41:46
Speaker 1: for Men and Boys, is really just another Minister for women,
41:50
Speaker 1: since his job, in part is to fight toxic masculinity
41:55
Speaker 1: and misogyny.
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Speaker 5: Fair enough, Look, I just think it's such a waste
42:00
Speaker 5: of taxpayer money. And I'm sure that's no surprise to
42:02
Speaker 5: you when I say that, I don't think we need
42:04
Speaker 5: a Minister for women either. I think every portfolio that
42:08
Speaker 5: they're across is already there. If you talk about health,
42:11
Speaker 5: you talk about education, you talk about justice, you talk
42:13
Speaker 5: about social services. What we don't need is more bureaucracy
42:16
Speaker 5: there where they're trying to connect the different departments. I
42:19
Speaker 5: think if you look at Katie Gallagher at a federal level,
42:21
Speaker 5: so you've got the Minister for Women, amongst many other things,
42:25
Speaker 5: she's brought in cheaper childcare, well, that benefits men. She's
42:28
Speaker 5: argued for more flexibility in work, well that benefits men.
42:31
Speaker 5: It's across the board. I don't think Victoria needs to
42:34
Speaker 5: be out there is claiming yet another first for something
42:37
Speaker 5: that's just going to cost more tax payer money and really,
42:40
Speaker 5: what is it going to deliver. We've seen what was
42:42
Speaker 5: it the Parliamentary Secretary for Men's behavioral change that Victoria
42:47
Speaker 5: put into place. The federal government had something very similar
42:50
Speaker 5: they announced last year. If you look into that, like
42:52
Speaker 5: I did just before the program, pretty much all they've
42:54
Speaker 5: done has been around there for talk fests around the
42:56
Speaker 5: country or around Victoria and the photo wops. There really
42:59
Speaker 5: has been anything substantial that's come out of that.
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Speaker 1: It seems strange to think there's a Minister for women,
43:06
Speaker 1: you know, affirming women, women, women, and then there's now
43:10
Speaker 1: a minister for men who says you're being too masculine.
43:14
Speaker 1: Something that s quite right, you you know.
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Speaker 16: The funniest part. A few points I'll make on this Andrew. Firstly,
43:20
Speaker 16: just into Alan and her labor colleagues. They don't even
43:22
Speaker 16: know what a woman is, so I would love to
43:24
Speaker 16: hear if they even know what a man is now
43:27
Speaker 16: given that they have got portfolios for.
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Speaker 13: Both of the sexes.
43:30
Speaker 16: They say that this is you know, to you know,
43:32
Speaker 16: to change the masculinity narrative and to teach men about
43:36
Speaker 16: how to treat women. Well, how about the erasure erasure
43:40
Speaker 16: of women's rights in Victoria. When you've got men who
43:43
Speaker 16: wear a dress that can then identify as women and
43:46
Speaker 16: then go into women's spaces.
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Speaker 13: I mean, that might be a start, that might actually
43:49
Speaker 13: be what women.
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Speaker 16: Wants instead of having a whole portfolio dedicated to men.
43:53
Speaker 16: But thirdly, the problem with something like this is it's
43:55
Speaker 16: actually telling men that they are terrible people, that they
43:58
Speaker 16: are the problem in society, that are the cause of
44:01
Speaker 16: all of women's problems. And it is this warped perception
44:05
Speaker 16: that has come out of the me too narrative that
44:09
Speaker 16: has really put men into this one category. Now, I'm
44:12
Speaker 16: sure that there are some really terrible men out there.
44:14
Speaker 16: I don't deny that as there are terrible women, but
44:17
Speaker 16: we can't keep blaming men for everything. And a lot
44:21
Speaker 16: of men just want to earn a living. That they're
44:23
Speaker 16: good people, they want to give it their best shot,
44:25
Speaker 16: they want to provide for their families.
44:27
Speaker 13: Not everybody is going to be an Andrew Tate.
44:29
Speaker 16: You know, I noticed that that this minister who was appointed,
44:32
Speaker 16: the first comments that he made were while He's watched
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Speaker 16: the Manisphere documentary by Luis through it and was appalled, like,
44:38
Speaker 16: you can't love all men into that category. It is
44:41
Speaker 16: virtue signaling nonsense, Andrew. But let's try and define the
44:45
Speaker 16: sexes first before we actually dedicate the portfolios.
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Speaker 1: So there's a minister for women and there's a minister
44:53
Speaker 1: for apologizing for being male. Wonderful, Victoria. I can't wait
44:59
Speaker 1: to Lisa. This really serves me because I've been doing
45:05
Speaker 1: a couple of items on the show recently about Ukraine,
45:09
Speaker 1: in particular, how wow, drone warfare is just amazing. I
45:13
Speaker 1: showed last week they've got a number of machines land
45:19
Speaker 1: drones that actually conquered a Russian position without any human
45:24
Speaker 1: beings at all. It just all these machines just did
45:27
Speaker 1: the work. Now China, China has already shown as dancing robots.
45:33
Speaker 1: Yesterday it showed us robots that could run a half
45:37
Speaker 1: marathon seven minutes faster than any human. But the thing
45:42
Speaker 1: is the worry for me here is that there's no
45:44
Speaker 1: way the China's developing robots like this simply to dance
45:49
Speaker 1: and to run races, and how cute and all that,
45:52
Speaker 1: And I keep thinking what would these Chinese robots do
45:56
Speaker 1: if you gave them a gun? Are these tomorrow's terminators?
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Speaker 5: Well, Andrew, you would have to hope when you look
46:03
Speaker 5: at all that vision that's on YouTube of the race,
46:05
Speaker 5: you would have to hope that some of those robots
46:07
Speaker 5: were as useless as the ones that hit the barricades
46:09
Speaker 5: or fell over or couldn't go on a straight line.
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Speaker 13: So let's hope that happens. But you're absolutely right.
46:14
Speaker 5: If they're developing this technology, and when they put it
46:16
Speaker 5: out on show that they say it's a technology showcase,
46:20
Speaker 5: it is effectively a look into the future for a
46:23
Speaker 5: military parade if you're serious about it. At some point
46:26
Speaker 5: they might have two point one million soldiers in their army,
46:29
Speaker 5: but how many more can they create in factories? And
46:33
Speaker 5: that's what's really frightening about this. And look, when you
46:35
Speaker 5: talk about robot X and you talk about AI, you
46:38
Speaker 5: were right. Drones are the future. And at the moment
46:41
Speaker 5: we're even in Australia, up in well Camp in Toomba,
46:44
Speaker 5: Bowie will be building ghost bats, which are effectively drones
46:48
Speaker 5: that we should be using in our defense forces. So
46:51
Speaker 5: that is the way of the future. And I think
46:53
Speaker 5: You're right. You start to look at those humanoids and
46:55
Speaker 5: how fast they can go and how fast they can respond.
46:58
Speaker 5: The future when you put that into a defense capacity
47:00
Speaker 5: is terrifying.
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Speaker 1: Honestly, it reminds me, Denika of you know, a Black
47:07
Speaker 1: Mirror episode where someone gets chased for the whole show
47:11
Speaker 1: by a sort of dog like creature a machine of course. Honestly,
47:18
Speaker 1: what would these robots be like with a bit of
47:20
Speaker 1: AI to find you know, you computed it, you charge
47:25
Speaker 1: it and say go get that human wherever it goes,
47:28
Speaker 1: go get them, kill them they chase you down.
47:30
Speaker 16: Yeah, absolutely, I mean just looking at that vision, it
47:32
Speaker 16: is actually frightening to me.
47:33
Speaker 13: And don't forget Andrew. You know, last year at.
47:37
Speaker 16: The Tianuman Square anniversary, China already in veiled robots. They're
47:41
Speaker 16: calling them robot Wolves designed to attack Taiwan, and they
47:45
Speaker 16: can clear simulated minds and they can also carry ammunition,
47:48
Speaker 16: so they China's already ahead of the game when.
47:51
Speaker 13: It comes to this, and this has just proven it
47:53
Speaker 13: even more.
47:54
Speaker 16: Look, I really really worry about the future, and I
47:57
Speaker 16: think it's going to have to spur other countries. I
47:59
Speaker 16: think the US would be very well aware of what's
48:01
Speaker 16: going on into maybe trying to use AI in combat.
48:05
Speaker 16: I don't think that we have a choice anymore, especially
48:08
Speaker 16: seeing something like this.
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Speaker 1: Golly, it makes me feel that our military is so
48:13
Speaker 1: far behind the curve of what's coming. Lisa got Danika
48:17
Speaker 1: to Georgia. Thank you very much to you both. I
48:21
Speaker 1: do wonder you know. Let me go back to we have.
48:27
Speaker 1: We're facing stagflation right because of the Iran blockading ships
48:33
Speaker 1: in the straight up moss in the Persian Gulf, so
48:36
Speaker 1: we can't get all tankers through. Almost nothing affects us
48:40
Speaker 1: more than that, and yet we don't offer to help
48:44
Speaker 1: now to clear that area. How we're spectators to our
48:50
Speaker 1: own decline. I've never realized Australia was so helpless. That's
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Speaker 1: it from me. Coming up next, Sherry Marstris' is back.
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Speaker 1: Good night,