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Fancy a 200mph microlight? - The FLYER Show - 1st October 2026 · Flyer Magazine

• 0:04
  SPEAKER_03: This is the Flyer Show in podcast form from the Team at Flyer.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's your weekly dose of general aviation news, views, and flying chat.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_03: In this episode, we look at the world's fastest micro lights, plus there's the usual observations, digressions, and opinions from the team.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you like airplanes, airfields, airspace, and the world that surrounds them, you're in the right place.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_03: So and welcome to this week's Flyer Show, where it is stunning outside, I'm sure you'll really want to know that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anyway, my name's Ian Steeger.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ed Hicks, and I'm Dave Gorderwood.
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  SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much to SkyDemon for supporting this, and here is this week's top tip.
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  SPEAKER_02: Hi, I'm Tim from Sky Demon.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_02: Welcome to this week's Top Tip.
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  SPEAKER_02: SkyDemon allows you to create your own user waypoints.
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  SPEAKER_02: You can create as many as you like, and to help people with lots of them, they're organised into folders.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_02: You can just use one folder if you don't have many.
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  SPEAKER_02: One advantage of having them organized into folders is that you can control which waypoints are visible on the map, hiding an entire folder if you don't need them.
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  SPEAKER_02: To keep waypoints the same across all your devices, we made it possible to synchronize your folders to the cloud.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to add a new waypoint here from the map.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll call it Banana.
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  SPEAKER_02: There it is on the map.
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  SPEAKER_02: And if I go into setup and user waypoints, I can see it here in a folder I've called places.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can also see that it's telling me at the top of this window that I've made changes that haven't yet been synced with the cloud.
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  SPEAKER_02: So I press sync with cloud and that saves all my changes.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now on my phone I can open the same window and press sync with cloud and my changes are brought to the phone.
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  SPEAKER_02: Look, there's my new waypoint.
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  SPEAKER_02: It works the other way around too.
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  SPEAKER_02: I can delete this waypoint on my phone, go back into the user waypoint screen and sync.
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  SPEAKER_02: Then sync on this iPad, and it's gone.
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  SPEAKER_02: For our full user manual, go to skydimon.ero and choose help and support.
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  SPEAKER_04: So user waypoints.
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  SPEAKER_03: User waypoint management.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you've got to be careful.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_04: You can't just like leave them everywhere.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's I do know people.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_04: I'm not a big waypoint user.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_04: I think I I reckon I've probably got three or four.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_04: So and I know people with like three or four hundred.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_04: I've got a waypoint folder that's got all of the white horses in in Wiltshire.
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  SPEAKER_04: Well that's more than my four, I reckon, isn't it?
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there are more.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_03: It's really useful actually if you want a white horse.
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  SPEAKER_03: How many waypoints have you got?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_03: How many have you got?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um later on in the show we'll be talking about the world's fastest micro light, so don't forget to hang on for that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we've got a pretty good fantasy hanger coming up as well.
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• 3:17
  SPEAKER_03: Should we have some news?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 3:19
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm off first, and it is some sad news, and that's uh confirmation, official confirmation.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think we all kind of knew and suspected it that Tony Hall, owner of uh Hopeney Green, Wolverhampton spaceport, as as was, um was was killed in the uh cirrus accident in Switzerland uh a little while ago.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Tony bought Hopeney Green in 2023, invested a huge amount in the runway.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: There's just been a new Charles Playground open.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_03: There's a fantastic restaurant called A Media's, it's really become the jewel in the crown of of of Midlands General Aviation, really.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so absolutely tragic story.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: I it it looks like everything will continue and that will uh be a lasting memory to Tony.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_04: So uh I mean that is uh certainly to come along, do what he's done, do what he did for Wolverhampton, Hebney Green is will be a lasting legacy for sure.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_04: But very, very sad news.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, very better news.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the first JMB VL3 uh has been delivered.
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  SPEAKER_01: But it uh received the aircraft received its uh BMA British Micro Aircraft Association approval at the weekend.
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  SPEAKER_01: It was handed over at Popham, uh where the stall competition was taking part, taking place.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh just a reminder that the JMB VL3 is uh the 916 IS equipped version.
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  SPEAKER_01: Got a 200 uh knots uh two airspeed cruise and uh climbs at heck of a rate as well.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: But we'll be talking more about this later, aren't we?
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  SPEAKER_03: Got a super sexy propeller.
• 4:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_04: I yeah, no, I rot yeah, uh some of those RoTAX propellers can be a bit spindly.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_04: The one on the VL3 is is a piece of sculpture.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I would agree.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's very nice.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 5:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um talking of stole competitions.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh I was uh so uh Saturday the uh UK Stoll uh Stoll UK had their inaugural event uh in the UK down at Popham and Popham's obviously a great place to hold an event.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh they had did it really, really well, uh created a special um stall runway.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh so basically there was a new for the event 2507 runway uh which was um kind of north on the airfield site um and ran down into the what would normally be the exhibition space, but it allowed people uh they ran the normal uh um 2608 runway.
• 5:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, um ran that normally, but uh for the stall runway you could break you could use the same circuit and break off and land.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_04: So it meant the airfield stayed open the whole time the competition was on, which was nice because there was a whole bunch of people who flew in and visited.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um must have been over 70 aircraft flying in to see what was going on.
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  SPEAKER_04: There was a big crowd, um, and a big field of aeroplanes too.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I think there was something like 16, 18 entries, so um everything from a um uh an electric sub 70 kilogram uh flex wing, which was brilliant, all the way to a couple of Cesna 180s, which are big, as you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um how long was the runway?
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  SPEAKER_03: The stall runway, do you think?
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  SPEAKER_04: Um I reckon it was 300 meters.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_04: So um and obviously the um the stall the stall competition uses a marked out deck and you have to land within a certain certain distance, otherwise you're a s what they call a scratch if you overrun the line.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_04: Also, if you land too soon, that's also a scratch.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um but uh it was done, it was a really nicely run event, um very safe.
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_04: Took a little while to work through.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_04: Probably they need to work on the pace a little bit because it it started what time did it start?
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_04: Um just after lunch, and it was it had gone half five before everything had kind of percolated through.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_03: It's probably not the smallest circuit, that's like if I remember rightly, you've got the kind of golf course and stuff like that you tend to go around, haven't you?
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you had to all the normal avoid areas were were in use.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah, everything was flying big circuits.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_04: So and it wasn't and uh they were trying to uh match that obviously with things that were happening on the airfield as well.
• 7:17
  SPEAKER_04: So they wouldn't uh they weren't having people taking off on the stall runway if there was something happening on the so it was it was safe.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_04: Um some some some interesting numbers.
• 7:26
  SPEAKER_04: So uh Jez Walsh, who was flying the electric um sub-70, uh he won his category 51 meter takeoff, 58 metre landing, total 109.
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_04: Paul Jewhurst, you won't be surprised, um, a bit of a legend flying the ninja.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um he had the best score of the whole day.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, uh 32 meter takeoff, 68 metre landing, 100 meters.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_04: So um what was really impressive, there was a guy called Andy Rouse uh in one of the Cessna 180s, had lots of if you look carefully, had lots of little trick stall things on it.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um 78-meter takeoff, 94 meter landing, 172 metres total.
• 8:03
  SPEAKER_04: He's he was that was the one thing I I really watch enjoyed watching.
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  SPEAKER_04: His landing, he was on the back of the drag curve all the way down.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_04: And the good news is we've got a video coming up which might be out by the time you watch this.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_04: So um you'll be able to see all of this that went on on that.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_03: We must we should we should we should have our own little stall practice and see how it always worries me a little bit, right?
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: Particularly as it's not my airplane.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, you because you're 180, you borrow, don't you?
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_04: And it's it's different when it's a borrowed airplane versus road.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm not sure about coming in on the back of the.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_03: I can I understand why they do it.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: I understand the drag thing, but it you know that the It's about I I presume that a good stall result, landing result, is about the minimum margins, really, isn't it?
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want excessive.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, you don't want to be able to do that.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: So the other side of the minimum margin is not a nice place.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_04: No, no, no.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_04: Uh and what so and what made it a little challenging at Popham is the new the competition runway was a little bit downhill.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say that is a little bit downhill there, isn't it?
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_04: So um so you know some people had to work really hard.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_04: Uh a special mention for Simon Wilson, who was flying a thruster with no brakes.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_04: And he did brilliantly, considering uh so he literally touched down and killed the ignition and just rolled to a halt and still came out with a still came out with a good number.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: So um and you have to get that eventual combined total on the same run, don't you?
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yes, you have to you can't pick your best.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_04: But your best of each other.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_04: No, it has to be uh your best score has to come from a from one flight.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 9:35
  SPEAKER_04: So you get three goes.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_01: Simon was saying he was pulling the stick right back to dig the tailwheel in.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's the only braking he had.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_04: I joked to him, he should have taken the tailwheel off.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_04: You should have taken the I'd like to come to B and Q and bought big rats or something.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_04: But it was uh it was a good day, and uh I think paves the way for other Stoll UK events maybe next year.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, look forward to that.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Jolly good.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: Bit of quick news there's now a rat, uh a restricted airspace temporary, over Fairford.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um obviously after the weekend's incident, there's this has been imposed.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_01: It's a four nautical mile radius centred on Welford.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: That's the village just to the east of uh f of the airfield.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_01: Surface to uh flight level 95.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, and that's in addition to the normal TMZ that's around Fairford, isn't it?
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_04: Which is pretty large.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_03: So there's an airplane.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_03: Hopefully we don't get a rat every time that someone goes and nicks some fuel from a couldn't possibly comment.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: We could we don't know the full story yet.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: I'll say it.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_04: No, yeah.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_04: Uh new aeroplane news.
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_04: Woohoo! I know game aerospace, who you know for the game bird, which is uh surprisingly that's been a very successful two-seat aerobatic, ult ult unlimited level aerobatic airplane.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_04: I think they've delivered more than 125 of those.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: That's impressive.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_04: Um Game Aerospace have gone, you know what the world needs?
• 10:54
  SPEAKER_04: It needs a new clean sheet firebomber aeroplane.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_04: So they've just flown their GB2.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_04: Um, we talked about the fact they were going to make this GB2 a few years ago on the flyer show.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_04: Uh but that's finally finished and flown last week.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um, designed from the outset for firefighting.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_04: Apparently, um someone approached um uh games uh chief designer Philip Steinbach and said, Can we modify an aeroplane to make it better?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_04: He said it's actually better just to start for a new with a new clean sheet design.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_04: And this is a monster aeroplane.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_04: I mean it doesn't look that big in the photos, uh, but then when you see it alongside other airplanes, it's enormous.
• 11:32
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, empty weight, six thousand pounds.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_04: What's really impressive though is the max gross weight is tw is three times that at 18,000 pounds.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um it can carry a uh 1200 US gallon um firefighting payload um and also uh 1,500 litres of fuel.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_04: So and it's really fast.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um its cruise is um 210 knots.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_04: Is it aerobatic?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_04: Well that's I did wonder it I it's um uh there's some discussion online when the photos were posted.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_04: It's like for when you need to fight a fire and then go and compete at unlimited level.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_04: I don't think it is aerobatic, but um that's quite a monster airplane.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_04: Clearly you're gonna need a type rating for it because it's so heavy.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm guessing they'll it won't be long before someone sticks and floats on it.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_04: Inevitably.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_04: But um yeah, so yeah, so competition for the air tractor, I guess.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_04: Uh absolutely.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_04: So um had the market to itself for yeah.
• 12:32
  SPEAKER_04: What what a machine.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_04: Wow, after the summer we've had, it's probably uh it's probably a good market to be getting into.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_04: That's right.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_01: Brilliant.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_04: But it is it's uh it's a bit weird looking, isn't it?
• 12:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's almost like so someone said, Is that AI?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_04: And I said, No, that is real.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_04: No, from some angles it's like an interior shot.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_04: It looks like it's got massive pillars, but I think it's just it has.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_04: Someone commented on the fact that the windscreen is like looks like staring out of some castle fortification.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_04: No, that's that's to keep the pilot safe from drones and other obstacles and things you might run into when you're low down.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it doesn't matter if he sees that side or not.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: So I can't see much, it's all smoky, yeah?
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_03: But okay.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_03: Well, in in what could be potentially good news or no news at all, we're not quite sure.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: There are plenty of rumors surrounding that uh running that the SR71 could be back in the air, believe it or not.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: SR71844, which was the it's actually an SR71A, I believe.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_03: Which was the last one built and the last one retired and went to work for NASA.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_03: Is that the sort of NASA flight test centre at Edwards, where it was kind of on display.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_03: And it back in May, it's kind of quietly disappeared from there.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_03: It's been on display outside since 1999, hasn't it?
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, 1999's only yesterday, we know that.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_03: I've seen all of these things on the internet, Rebuild, Rescue, and Jimmy's World and stuff like that.
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_03: They're gonna be there's gonna be one coming up where they'll go, does it start?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's been put into a hangout.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: And there are rumors that that NASA have been contacting various um old engineers.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh can you give me a hand?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_03: And I think Jared Isaacson, the the head of NASA, who has plenty of toys of himself, and he's teased a photo as well.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, to get something like that back which needs special fuel and special equipment and everything else.
• 14:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I sadly don't think it's gonna happen.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think it's gonna happen, but I want it to happen.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_04: There's a big gulf.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_03: If it happens, I will travel to wherever it is in the world to give it a chance to do it.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: I stand at the fence and see it fly, yeah.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_03: Now, talking of which, second best to seeing that flying again.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um if and we've plugged this before, but if you haven't read it, there's a fantastic book called Skunk Works by Ben Rich, which has a whole load about the SR-71.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh quick quick shot uh coming up now, Henry.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um so go go buy yourself that book and read it.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: You you won't regret it at all.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_03: It's not got an SR-71 on the cover.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's got the 117 thing.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_03: Uh the stealth fighter.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: The stealth fighter, one of the early stealth fighters.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um but it it does cover the SR-71.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely fantastic book.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_03: Go read it.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_03: So there you go.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I think we've got one more story.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's about another iconic aircraft, actually.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_03: It's about the don't mention anything in the same breath as the SR seventy one A.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: It just doesn't, or SR 71, it doesn't compete.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, Britain Norman Britain Norman, uh British manufacturer, uh, the islander is uh being built from component level back in the UK.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: Uh for years it's been built in uh Bucharest, Romania, uh, but now they're bringing back production to the UK, to Bembridge uh on the Isle of Wight.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_01: And um the first one built um is nearing delivery.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's had its first flight and it's it's just come out of out the paint shop.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's in the colours of the Falkland Island Government Air Service.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_01: They're the customer.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: They've got quite a few of these islanders uh over the years.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, at um delivery is supposed to be this month uh in October.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_01: Someone's got a nice ferry delivery flight, haven't they?
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's a lovely flight.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: In an islander.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's like driving a Land Rover defender down to uh Cape Town or something, isn't it?
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_04: That we yeah.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_04: About as tedious.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: But aircraft being manufactured in the UK.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_04: They've been building that one a while, haven't they?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Well they have.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: What's been happening is they've been manufactured in Bucharest and then uh bit yeah, the parts have been shipped, but now they're going down to component level, which is really individual bits and pieces.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_03: So riveting returns to the Isle of Wight.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_03: So there was a factory tour due at some point, but I think that's been cancelled.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: I was reading online somewhere, and I'm not quite not I'm not quite sure why.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: Uh there's a factory tour coming up in uh early October.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's one that's been cancelled that is no longer on.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Um and I I don't I don't know.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_03: I remember I remember it back in the day when they had a lot more stuff going on down there than that than they did now, than they do now.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_03: There was they they did a whole load of work on a whole load of military aircraft and and other other government islanders with that had bulbous noses and all sorts of aerials and stuff.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, but I mean, that must be a good thing.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_03: Whenever that was going on, it was it was all like, okay, close that bit off.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: No one, nope, nope, nope nope, nope, go away, go away.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_03: Lots of sneaking and scrolls.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: So maybe maybe something like that's happened.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe someone needed their bulbous nose replacing.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_04: I wonder how long it will be before someone says, Can we order a Trilander?
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: Never mind.
• 17:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, never.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Never.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_03: Never.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Breaking news.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_01: Jamie Oliver, yes, that Jamie Oliver, has come to the rescue of Andersfield after the Essex Airfield and Flying School was about to close.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: The current owners, Mike Rowland and Carol Cooper, have been considering their eventual retirement from the day-to-day running of Andersfield.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't have any kind of succession plan, and they said the only realistic option was to close the airfield.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: But Jamie, who trained there this summer, uh said it had changed his life for the better, and added, When I heard it was in danger of closing, all I wanted to do was help secure its future.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_01: Under the new arrangement, longtime Andersfield pilot Mark Naylor, who for some reason is known as Blondie, he'll become the major shareholder and take responsibility for the day-to-day running of Andersfield Aviation.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_01: Mark recently returned to Andresfield after 10 years flying the air ambulance operations in Devon and just completed his flight instructor rating.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: Jamie said he will continue to support Andrewsfield and its community, but will not be involved in its day-to-day management.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Carol Cooper will remain head of training, instructor and examiner.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: Carol has got more than 27,000 hours of flying, uh, already logged, and she set herself a target of 30,000 hours.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is great news for Andrewsfield, which is a wonderful little airfield.
• 18:49
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• 18:54
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• 19:00
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• 19:04
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• 19:10
  SPEAKER_03: That would be a jolly good thing.
• 19:13
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• 19:14
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• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: We'd like to feature it in some of the stuff for members out and about kind of pages, etc.
• 19:28
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• 19:29
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• 19:30
  SPEAKER_03: Right then.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: World's fastest microlites.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, absolutely.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: At 200 mile an hour microlites.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well we kind of the the I mean there's no magical thing that happens at 200 mile an hour, but we kind of figured that that was kind of fast.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_04: This seems to be this seems to be the bar that people talk about um nowadays.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously, we've got uh a few things have happened.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_04: The micro light weight limit in the UK, which kind of most relevant here, is six hundred kilograms, max gross weight.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_04: Um the advent of going 200 miles an hour seems to be okay.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_04: That's possible now for uh quite a few types, and that's clearly thanks to the RoTAX 916, which is the biggest of the RoTAX engines.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: And that's something like 160 horsepower for five minutes.
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, something around there.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: I I saw 137, but it it's around that kind of area.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: And you kind of pull, I think 5.8 is its max RPM.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: And you come back to 5.5.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_03: I think 5.5 is is max continuous RPM.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: Um so the combination of increased weight engine gets you up there.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_04: So so uh because obviously we've just heard earlier in the news that J the first JMB VL3 with the 916 has been delivered in the UK.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_04: Um and that's clearly the the the newest of the bunch.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: I mean last week there was the Aerospool Dynamic WT9, but we've checked, and it doesn't look like it's going to make the 200 miles an hour.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's fast.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's very fast.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_04: It's quite capable of the 200 miles an hour.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_04: So for the the purposes of this, sadly, that's not on the list.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_04: Um but the VL3 with the 916, um, you did some digging on the price.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_04: Did you you say it was 325,000 euros plus that?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, 325 uh euro plus that.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Now it's very hard getting prices out of manufacturers.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: So these are internet prices.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: We went searching on the internet and it came up with these prices.
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_01: So um don't quote us.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: But it kind of it's understandable to a certain point, because it depends what you put in it.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, depends, you know, what kind of paint job you want, etc.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: Which kind of the lots of them have lots of different variables.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: So you can kind of understand it.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_03: But it's uh and also you know, they don't want to they don't want to put people off with sort of what do they call it, sticker shock or something.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's it, yeah.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um But no, but yeah, but on the avionics front in particular, there are quite so many options, and in and it could make a Huge difference of the price.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and that's euros and the exchange rate stuff as well, isn't there?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_03: So plus fat.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_03: So that you know, you're looking at closer to 400k than than not.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Probably.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_03: Probably, yeah.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_01: And if you could if you're buying one of these expensive, you're not going to put a cheap set of instruments in it, are you?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_04: You're not going to go for base uh super basic VFR panel, are you?
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: No, no.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: So the WT9 doesn't quite make it, but we're still a fast airplane.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: That was the first one in the UK was delivered last week.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: That's right.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: So we've had a couple in a short period of time.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_03: Then you've got the one that everyone always whenever we do something like this, we always get a letter or an email.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_03: Not we don't get letters anymore, an email from someone going.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_03: What about the?
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: What about the Ryzen?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: Sorry, I'm sure you don't speak like that if you're the person.
• 22:44
  SPEAKER_03: I do apologize.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_04: But the but the Ry uh the Ryzen 916 IS super veloce.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_04: Super Veloce.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, this is the fastest of all, and it has been tested to by the FA FAI, FAI speed records.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: And this comes in at 225 knots true airspeed.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's 259 miles an hour.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean that's that's one hell of a speed in the micro.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: When you look at the horizon, you can clearly say the one okay, all the normal compromises that we make in an airplane, we're not going to make in this one.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_03: This one is going to really be about speed, isn't it?
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um which is why it looks so horrible.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_03: I I think horrible is a meaning.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_03: Is a bit too much.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_03: Is a bit mean.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't look horrible.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_04: It kind of looks squashed at the front.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_04: It has some challenging looks.
• 23:32
  SPEAKER_04: It's that it's very hard to find a flattering angle on it.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_04: And clearly, when they were designing it, they went uh they they want they decided what were we going to package it around?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_04: An engine and two people.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_04: And then literally drew the minimal time kind of airframe around that.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_04: It has got like the world's biggest canopy on a micro light, surely.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_03: It has a huge canopy.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_04: And I think that's because it um you the occupants are almost lying down in the aeroplane for that kind of super low drag position.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um low frontal area, don't they?
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, well the frontal area does look like they've it's been put in a vice and go it's it's there's not much to it.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously V tail and the tiniest of uh kind of rear fuselage.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: And tiny, relatively small looking wheels compared to some microlides.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, retractable gear.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_04: So um how much is a uh super velote?
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_01: Well that's gonna set you north of th 350,000 euro plus that.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: That seems to be about the average figure, really.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: And that's not but that's that's not UK approved, and we haven't heard any rumours about anyone trying to get it UK approved.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_03: It does look it I mean if you look at the material in it, they they they're saying that it's it's super easy to fly, suitable for anyone of of any experience level kind of thing.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: 1.23 meters wide.
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: Which is quite a decent sized cabin.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_04: You're lying down like in a hammock or who knows, maybe that will come to the UK.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_04: Um Turbo Shark.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I'm gonna do it.
• 25:04
  SPEAKER_04: So this is the turbo version of the regular shark, which is probably the the most popular hot ship microlight, I reckon, in the UK.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um certainly since the advent of 600 kg came along.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: So TurboShark's not in the UK at the moment, is it?
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_03: Not yet, no.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_04: So this is a version of the regular shark, but it's got the edge performance um turbocharged 912 engine, which I think is a hundred one four.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_01: Is it yeah?
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: Turbocharge, yeah.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's not the 914 is RoTex's own turbo engine.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_04: The edge performance engine is a turbo version of the 912, I think, that makes 140 horsepower.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think the edge performance, we should do something about edge performance at some point.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_03: They've got 120, 130 horsepower.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_03: Basically, they take a 912 and and and bore it out and make it more powerful.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's not universally loved by the authorities in the UK, I would say.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: I think we put in words into the authorities' mouth there, but it's it's it packages into a fairly compact.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_04: It's a much that that edge performance engine is much uh a much smaller module than than RoTex's own 916.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: So that will do 200 miles an hour, would it?
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_03: Which roughly speaking is 174-ish knots.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was I that was introduced to Aero this Aero Predous Haven this year, wasn't it?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_04: You talked about it in our best of error video.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_01: I did, and I got into it and still got out.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: Still got out.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_04: Is that 310,000 euros plus VAT?
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that is uh yes, 310,000 euros plus VAT.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_04: Um there's the Swedish choice.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_04: The Blackwing.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_04: The Blackwing.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_04: Um the C is it the 600RG?
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: They've got some funny they've got some funny numbers.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_03: I can't remember exactly what they're doing.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: But they make a 916, a 915 version, and a 912 YS version, which doesn't the 912 IS version doesn't make the speed.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_03: Both the 915 and the 916 do make the do make the 200 mile an hour cutoff.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and Blackwing are the guys that seem to flip-flop with reason for a Ryzen for um for holding speed records, aren't they?
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_04: So um I have to say that the Blackwing, I've every time I look see that at Aero Friedrichshaven, they do this thing of of finishing aeroplanes in just raw carbon with a lacquer coat on it, and that looks fantastic.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_03: It does look great, doesn't it?
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: I think it looks like a really nice aeroplane.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I mean to be honest, when you're looking, you know, if you look at the VL3 and the WC9 and the and the Blackwing, talking about side-by-side versions, none of them look horrible.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: They all look, you know, that they look really nice.
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: They they're modern sleek, but you've got to be modern and sleek if you go in.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: That's what you know the aeros laws of aerodynamics don't change, do they?
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_04: Blackwing is 370,000 euros.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Blackwing, yeah, uh is uh yeah, 370 plus uh plus VAT.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_04: And the little thing is a chunk.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_04: It's a chunk.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_03: That's a chunky bunch of money, that is, isn't it?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_04: Um the last thing that we could come up with that we thought of was the Black Shape Prime Veloce.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_04: So that's um Black Shape um have got the they were probably one of the first to market with the the tandem kind of tandem fast looking micro light.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_04: Never see very many of these around, do you?
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um I only tend to see them when I go to Friedrichshaven.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_04: I I don't recall ever seeing one in the wild.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_04: Um but they've got a 916 powered version of their um of their of the the Prime, which is a obviously the Veloce model.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_04: 280,000 euros, supposedly internet price.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um Max cruise speed was 339 kilometres.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's that's that's gonna be going.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna I'm gonna chuck in a little bucket of not quite cold water, but of tepid water in the case.
• 28:46
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, which is to say that all of a lot of this stuff we've got from the internet because inevitably we don't happen to have one of each outside that we can go and play with and work and fly.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_03: We are relying on manufactured data.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_03: So we're relying on manufactured data.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_03: Now, throughout the history of aviation, manufacturers have sometimes not been strictly speaking completely accurate with their data, particularly when it comes to things like speed.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: They do like to cherry pick.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: They do like to cherry pick, and when it's so so you often see a phrase, it will go this far, it'll go this fast, it will carry this much.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: There's no way it's going to ever do all three at the same time.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I think you do have to take a little bit of a pinch of salt when you look at those numbers and go, will it actually do that?
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_03: And jump in and do it.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: Plus, the other thing that we haven't spoken about yet is this you mentioned the 600 kilogram thing.
• 29:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: But the 916 IS is heavier than the 912.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, so I got some numbers on that.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_04: The 916 IS is 86 kilograms just as a basic engine, no oil.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_04: That's uh the 912 IS is 63 kilos.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_04: So it's another it's another 23 kilos heavier.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: And and by the time you know, most people who are going to spend that much money are not gonna say, I want this equipped with the minimum stuff possible.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: Just give me one little legal they're gonna hang out.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna go out and have all the glass, etc., etc., etc., etc.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_03: And so when you look through the the manufacturer specifications, the useful load on them is not actually super high.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_03: And that's using the manufacturer specifications.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll guarantee you that not all of those manufacturers would be like, let's make this one as heavy and put all the options, and then we can they'll they would have frozen.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, we did look at empty weights, didn't we?
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_04: So the VL3, um again, we we've kind of taken average empty weights that we can find on the net.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_04: 365 kilograms empty.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_04: So that's well, that's leaving it what 35 useful load.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_04: Um the uh re uh the Ryzen is uh 350 kilograms empty, so 250.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_04: TurboShark, that's the lightest, 325 kilograms empty.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_04: I think that's because it uses the modified edge.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: Um Blackwing, that's 375 kilograms empty.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_04: That's quite a lardy one.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_04: Um and uh well no, actually, if we're talking LADY, black shape prime velocity, 420 kilograms empty.
• 31:05
  SPEAKER_04: That's a bit heavy.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_03: So you really you you can you can take the two average pilots at 80 kilograms, although I would argue that 80 kilograms is perhaps not a strictly good average number anyway.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_04: But it is let's just take that.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_04: 80 is the BMAA number, isn't it?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_04: BMAA says that it should at least have two eighty kilogram occupants.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_04: So what's that, 160 kilograms?
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_04: You know and then we decided that a RoTex 916 is what 30 about 36 litres an hour.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: Which is kind of like Owing territory, isn't it?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_03: It is for your high power cruise.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_03: If you're cruising at five and a half thousand RPM high price, and this is all about fast speed stuff.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um you're looking at so what's that, 36?
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's roughly 7.723 or something.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_03: So you're looking at what 26 kilos 25, 26 litres per hour per hour that you're burning.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: If you're buying one of these, you're probably not buying one because you want to go from Popham to Thruxton really quickly.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: No, yeah.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_03: You're buying one because you want to go a long way.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_03: You're gonna be touring, aren't you?
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_04: So at least you're probably flying at least an hour, maybe an hour and a half, and then you want um you want some um some reserve, don't you?
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'd want I'd want two and a half, two and a half, three hours is what I want.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: So you're talking, what's that, 50, 65, yeah, 65 to 75 kilos of fuel on top of that.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_03: So for some of them, that's you've you're you're done already.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_04: All of a sudden we're beginning to see the lines cross over, aren't they?
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_04: It's like you can and obviously we haven't even talked about taking some baggage.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_04: So maybe maybe that you get a special carbon fibre toothbrush.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_04: Or may maybe it's a drone that flies ahead of you and says I've delivered your stuff for you.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I think yeah, I think you have to you you have to take a realistic look at that.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_03: And certainly the the the tandem aircraft have can be a more challenging weight and balance calculation over over the side-by-side aircraft.
• 32:55
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I know in the sh in the certainly in the regular shark, there's movable balance.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_03: So I think that's worth and also the other thing is, you know, 200 even if it's not 200 mile an hour, 100, 150 mile an hour, 150 knots or something, which is obviously a bit faster.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_03: Traveling a distance, you're gonna encounter, you know, different weather much more quickly.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um and it it does require a different kind of you know, flying something in in the kind of four seat, four or five seat certified world, flying something fast like a bonanza or a or a cirrus or a twin, yeah.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: You need to do a bit more thinking and planning ahead of it because trying to figure out options at hundred and two hundred miles an hour.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_03: Over two miles the world goes past quickly.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, over two miles a minute.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_04: Three miles a minute, yeah.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_04: Three miles a minute, yeah.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_04: It's um it is getting there, isn't it?
• 33:45
  SPEAKER_04: But it is, I there's no question that this is probably the most exciting time in the world of microlites, certainly in the UK.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_03: Now I know there's a few people, I'm gonna I'm gonna play the role of a few people out there who are probably going, microlites at 400,000 pounds, euros, dollars, whatever it is, you must be joking.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_03: It should be about the the the cheaper end of stuff.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_03: And it it there's no reason that says it should be, yeah.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but there's no reason that says you can't have the cheaper end of stuff and the top end of stuff.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: You've got variety, you know.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_03: Whether you want a used flex wing with a sale that's got maybe a year or two left in it, or you want the the the hottest, fastest thing with one of the most sexiest props and amazing avionics.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_03: You pay your money and you take your choice.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_03: One doesn't preclude the other just because that's there.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_03: But but inevitably the manufacturers will make be making more money out of the higher expensive stuff than they would have stuff out of the page.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_04: And clearly this stuff is selling, so actually that shows where they where the market is.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_03: It'll be interesting to see where we are in in a year's time.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_03: I think we're just beginning to get built up a kind of in-surface experience with the 916.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: So that's a that's a lot of heat being generated.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_04: You know, we Yeah, but it's it seems to be working out.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_04: People seem to have got the measure of it now, and certainly OEM's installing it.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_04: Really is.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Well, road tractors are normally very well made, aren't they?
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_04: Well, as uh when the 916 came out, um I spoke to Mark Becker, who's the boss there, and uh I think is one of the other modifiers said, Oh, we can make more performance.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_04: He said, Yeah, but can you put a 2,000 hour warranty on it?
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_04: Because he said that's what we believe in.
• 35:21
  SPEAKER_04: So um it's like we'll make powerful engines if we can also send it out the door at 2,000 hour TBO.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_04: So yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, fantastic engine.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_04: So exciting times.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_04: And obviously, so far, UK's only got the JMB and um well, really just the JMB is that is actually the 200 mile hour.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe we will see the the shark turbo, because obviously that's got a the regular shark already sold in the UK by um TLAC.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_04: Um maybe if they get demand, maybe they'll bring the the shark turbo here.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_04: As for the others, no one, as far as we know, no one actively seeking to approve those, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_03: It'd be interesting to talk to the owner of the of the VL3 or any owners of the VL3 over you know sometime in four or six months' time.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: Maybe a little bit longer than that, so they've got the spring as well.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_03: What does it work out like in the real world?
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_03: What do you find yourself cruising at?
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_03: What do you find yourself, how do you find yourself operating it?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think if you've got a high performance aeroplane, you drive it high performance.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you do anything else?
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_04: You mean you're not sat there going, oh look at my economy cruise.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_04: No, no.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_03: Because I think there are Max power.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: Give it some full Elliott.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_01: Well, as we know, nothing's faster than a rental car, but unfortunately you can't get airplanes like that.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_03: No, no.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, let's wait and see.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_03: We think it we think it's good news.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's good news to have choice, and it's good news to have some some really stunning aircraft out there.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_04: What would you pick out of the uh out of the fast ones we've shown you tonight?
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_03: Let's not forget, just briefly, there's a 600 kilogram ninja, which which uh you know Ninja won the stall competition.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_03: Sky Ranger Ninja.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_03: Pretty much you're gonna um the useful load in the ninja for the Sky Ranger is like huge.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_04: You'd have to struggle trouble to fit it all in.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: I think.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_04: That it that is not a fast aeroplane, but it is.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_04: It's under a hundred one hundred thousand pounds in the UK with that.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_03: I've got a lot of time for that airplane.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_03: I've not I've never flown one yet.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_03: Paul, come down and see us, lend me one.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um but I I I yeah, I think it's a good one.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_04: Must be time for.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_04: So, fancy hanger.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_04: This week we were inspired by the fact that uh obviously Game Aerospace flew their GB2 firefighter, which a lot of people were going, that looks like it was generated by AI.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_04: It did, didn't it?
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_04: Which made us maybe it was.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_04: Maybe it was.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_04: I'd be surprised.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_04: I mean, starting to do it.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_04: Philip Steinbach is a is a he is a serious designer.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_04: But um uh so we thought we would go with the subject of looks like AI.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_04: So aeroplanes that we would have in our fancy hangar, looks like AI design them, but actually they are real things.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_03: You thought we were going to go for our favourite firebombing aircraft, didn't we?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um so Dave.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I've gone for this very odd mix.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: It if you've typed into Chat GPT, give me an air helicopter mixed with an aeroplane, this is what it would come up with.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Basically, it's a purpose-built observation aircraft designed for surveillance, reconnaissance, reconnaissance, patrol, and reconnaissance.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_01: Reconnaissance.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: Reconnaissance, that's the word, and other specialist missions.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but um and it's it's actually a certified aircraft.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: This is an optica.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_01: What is it?
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's a seeker, SB7L, with uh uh a Lycoming 360 engine in it.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_04: Made by the brilliantly named Seabird Company.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's right.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: It has changed hands.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's one of those manufacturers that's yet to find its feet, really.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the Jordanians bought uh bought a lot of them for a while.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um and it's uh I think it started in Australia, the project.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh the the manufacturer the certificate is with the FAA, so it's obviously they've got some kind of base over there, but it's not in production at the moment.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_04: Okay.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah This is like the Australian it was the Australian Optica, wasn't it?
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: It is, yeah, that's basically what it is.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_04: Slightly more conventional than the Optica, though.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_04: It looks like a C bee.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_04: It does look a little like a CB that's not a seaplane.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_04: But an interesting choice there, Dave.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: Apparently you can fly it for up to six and a half hours.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_04: That's d I that doesn't seem to look like AI designed it, that's the question.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_04: I think it's it's pr pretty normal looking.
• 39:37
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it does.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_04: Apart from being a pusher and a and a lot of glass.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_04: Well, I I I wonder if you asked AI, design me as an observation aeroplane, what would they come up with?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it's that part of Avia thing, isn't it?
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: What's it called now the Vulcanair P eighty six?
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, which the police are using as an observation airplane.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_01: It looks nothing like this.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: True.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: But did AI design that?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: Who knows?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_03: Ian, what did you go for?
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: I went for I went for an aircraft that genuinely looks like AI designed it.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if you haven't seen it before and you saw one on on on screen, you go, that's not real, is it?
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: It's the it's the Burt Rutan boomerang.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: Oh the 202.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's uh it was designed, he kind of designed it as his own personal aircraft.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_03: You went, okay, and I I I want it to be super safe.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: I want the VMC to to be below the store speed.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: I want I want it to handle not in a way that a twin that loses an engine handles.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, like uh like twins, many, many accidents because the the comes up with the whole kind of saying about you know the good engine takes you to the scene of the accident, yeah.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_03: So there's two different two different engines delivering two different bits of power from it, and kind of really it's basically Bert Rutan and one of his weirdest.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_04: It was his because he was prolific in all in all the designs Bert came up with, but this was possibly one of his weirdest because it was uh completely asymmetric, like you say, two different engines, um interior configuration was weird.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_04: I think it was um was it was it one plus one two plus two?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's very strange.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_03: But and and you sat about it isn't is normal.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and one fuselage was just a fuselage with no one in it, and the other fuselage had the people in it, and it was it was yeah, it looks it looks mad.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_03: It looks like AI has gone our design.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: And I actually asked AI to to show me a Burt Rutan boomerang, and it came up with this, which I think you'd agree looks more conventional.
• 41:43
  SPEAKER_04: I and I think that's the trouble.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_04: If you ask AI to come up with a uh a Rutan boomerang, it's not gonna be as mad as you go, I'll give you symmetrical.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_03: Bert has gone was completely mad when he did but he wasn't clearly mad, it was it was an absolutely brilliant he's mad with his sideburns, but apart from that.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_04: And I've I've spoken at the because Bert retired the aeroplane, but uh another guy, a guy called Trey Clements, uh now operates it and he said it is genuinely as brilliant as well and there was only ever one.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_04: Only ever one.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_04: There were plans.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_04: Do you remember?
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_04: Years and years and years ago, um someone said, We're going to make Rutan boomerangs.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_04: It never happened, clearly.
• 42:22
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it should be an airplane that just keeps coming back and back.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_04: I can't I mean to be honest, while unique looking, you know, people buy aeroplanes because they're beautiful, like the 600 kg microlites.
• 42:34
  SPEAKER_04: I can't imagine someone going, look at my fabulous twin.
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_03: And they're going, did it melt?
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_03: I think I I think it I think I think that has a beauty to it.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_04: Oh for sure.
• 42:43
  SPEAKER_03: For sure.
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_01: How is it safer than a conventional twin then?
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so there was some science involved.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: There was some science involved.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, a conventional twin, if you lose an engine, it it becomes and you get too slow, you're gonna roll over on your back.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_03: Um and there's quite a few, many, many, many sadly examples of of it.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_03: Conventional twins losing uh an engine on departure when they are at a high power and relatively slow speed and and the airplane is on its back pretty much straight away.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um not a great thing.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um this won't do that because the VMCA is is below the stall speed of it.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like you can't guess you could stall it instead.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and and just the the position of engines and and variation and location just meant that all the things that were normally someone once asked but what led him to to design an airplane that looked so weird, and his answer was Was it drugs?
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't drugs, his answer was self-preservation.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, all right.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_03: You know, I'm I want this to be as safe as I can make it.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: Because you know, in a two engines is a nice feeling to have when you're over a long sea crossing.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: You'd like to be able to look at that's working, that's working, that's lovely.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_03: One of them's one of them has an off day.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_03: Not too bad.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_03: You can still get that.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_04: I have a recollection as well that the underca the undercarriage.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_04: One leg retracts backwards, one goes forwards, and only one fuse launch has a nose wheel.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure there was like a a statement at the beginning that said nothing will be normal in this airplane.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_03: And actually that was completely true.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_03: Salvador Dahlia of airplane design.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: But brilliant.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: So that's mine.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: So if you'd just like to vote for me in the comments, don't forget to put it down.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_03: That would be absolutely great.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_03: You don't have to give the win to well, certainly don't have to give it to Dave.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_04: I quite like your boomerang.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_04: However, I remembered this, the Centauri Volkyri.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_04: I mean this was completely bonkers.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_04: Um launched in and launched at Oshkosh in 2016.
• 44:41
  SPEAKER_04: Um at the time it was promising to be a 650 pound.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_04: Ten years ago.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_04: I know, yeah.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_04: 650,000 pounds, uh 650,000 four five-seater.
• 44:51
  SPEAKER_04: Looks utterly mad.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_04: If you ever saw the 1980s film Firefox, which had Clint Eastwood in, it looks like I had this weird Russian mega fighter.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_04: This looks like someone went, that's a great idea for a light personal GSU airplane.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_04: Let's make it.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um it was meant to cruise at 245 knots at 75% power at 8,000 feet.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_04: Who knows?
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_04: It did definitely fly.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_04: Well, two straight rotex.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, no, it was a big six-cylinder Continental.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_04: Um, but it did definitely fly.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_04: Um, you won't be surprised to hear the company went bust within two years.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_04: Um amazingly, uh they popped back up.
• 45:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um, same designer, same aeroplane, new company.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_04: Um uh, but um yeah, so that's that reappeared at Oshkosh in 2025.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_04: But this is completely mad looking.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_03: Did it have that forward-tilting kind of before?
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, there was a lot of things on it where I and I saw it in 2025 at Oshkosh, and you walked up to it and you go, just how practical would this be?
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_04: Because there was no obvious way to get into it unless someone brought you a ladder and the whole nose tilted forwards, and it's you know, you look at stuff and you go, I'd like to think that whoever designed this had some idea of what an aeroplane needed to be, but you're not convinced they were.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_04: Not convinced they did.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_04: Um so I ran mine through um through AI as well.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_04: I said, you know, design me an aeroplane like this, and it couldn't even get close to what the Centauri, the the Volcaneri is.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_04: So um I'm worried that mine is just a bit too mad, even for AI.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_03: Fascinating aircraft.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_03: Sadly, I don't think they had quite a big stand, I think, back in 2016 or something, if I remember right.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_03: And they they were just along from Terrafugia, I think.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_03: Things we've learned.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_03: They had the ma that was the year they had the mad the mad road of airplanes.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_04: Crazy things.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_04: And as we've often learned in aviation, crazy doesn't always sell.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_04: In fact, universally, it never seems to sell.
• 46:52
  unknown: No.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's hard to get crazy certified, I think.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: It is.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_03: So there you go.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: Let us know who do you think wins this week?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_04: Um, and if you've got something that you think, yeah, if you've got stick that in the comments you go, that's designed by AI, but it's not.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_04: Tell us.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_04: So uh time for some weather.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_04: So um, yeah, uh, let's see what uh Simon has in store for us for this weekend.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: Evening all, hope you're doing well this evening, and looking forward to a weekend of flying.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: Not looking too bad, actually.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, certainly some flying to be found.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this is the forecast chart for tomorrow morning.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: And uh notice we've got outbreaks of rain, mostly affecting western areas, some pretty heavy rain going through Ireland and into western Scotland during the course of the day.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: Western coasts just seen these outbreaks of rain coming in from time to time, grizzly bits really, more than anything else.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think for central and eastern areas, yes, there'll be plenty of cloud around, but some bright spells you can see there affecting northeastern parts of England, the northern Midlands parts of East Anglia.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I think we've got a bit of a west, east-west split.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: Eastern areas probably seen bases at 2,000 to 4,000 feet, tops at about 12,000 feet.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: Western areas generally in non-vivar conditions with that low cloud affecting western coasts and hills, and I should say some pretty low cloud as well for western and southern coasts of England.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think here bases anywhere from less than a thousand feet to two thousand feet, and tops coming in at about 10,000 feet.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_00: But where we see the front out west at less than a thousand foot bases at 15 to 20,000 foot tops, and some gale force winds there too.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_00: Now, during the course of the evening and overnight, you see that front just dragging its way eastward so that by Saturday morning it's kind of lying down through uh northeast England, down through the Midlands into southwest England.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_00: Not a lot left on it by then.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_00: Pressure rising through, and that always weakens the front.
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: We talk a lot about this at Weather School, but that will weaken the front.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: So I think along the line of the front, we get those shower outbreaks of rain, most of them affecting um southwestern areas.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_00: But typical base is probably coming in at about a thousand to three thousand feet, and the top's about twelve thousand feet along the front.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_00: Ahead of it, behind it, the cloud base is probably a bit better at around three thousand feet, and the top's at 10 to 15,000 feet.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now, during the course of the day, that front slips southeastwards, it weakens as it goes.
• 49:17
  SPEAKER_00: But you notice as it gets into the channel into southeastern parts of England, it gets pepped up again.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that we could find that many central and southeastern parts of the country actually deteriorate as we go into the afternoon.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: Some hefty showers affecting western Scotland uh during Saturday afternoon, but other areas generally are looking better.
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_00: Bases at 3,000 feet atops at about 12 to maybe as high as 15,000 foot level through the course of the evening, which high pressure is building in.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: Now, that stays with us on Sunday morning, but with the flow going more into the southwest, we could find lots of cloud coming in from the southwest, mostly affecting western parts of Ireland, affecting western parts of Wales, western coast of southwest England, and drizzly bits around.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think the lowest of the cloud for northwestern parts of England, here less than a thousand foot bases with much reduced visibility and tops about 10,000 feet.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: Other areas generally bases of a thousand to three thousand feet.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_00: The morning may start murky, but then the cloud base lifts and tops at about ten thousand feet.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_00: Front line through Scotland, bringing outbreaks of rain here, most of them in the west, and bases a thousand to two thousand feet, and tops at about twelve thousand feet.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_00: So overall, you see there, not a bad weekend, particularly England and Wales in Scotland, really, and particularly the west, where we find the worst of the conditions.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_00: But for most of us, at least some weather windows are there.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_00: Now I mentioned weather school, which I run in two parts.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: So my next aviation weather school online course is actually going to begin.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, this is part two.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_00: Next Tuesday, 6th of October, between 6 30 pm and 9pm.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: But this is one that you go on to if you've done part one, and I show you in depth how to use skew tee diagrams.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: So these are the vertical diagrams that tell us whether cloud is in layers, what type of cloud it is that winds at various levels, whether it's going to rain, whether they're a risk of thunderstorms, whether there's hail, etc.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_00: Use them for anywhere, use them for days in advance as well, forecast SQTs.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: We talk about the jet streams.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we talk about more advanced um charts that are hidden well into the internet that really all pilots should be using.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: So if you've already been to part one, you can book that place on part two now.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: Use the QR code or get a weatherschool.co.uk.
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um we have a place remaining on that course, I believe.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but if you've not been to part two yet, you need to do part one first, and that's coming up on the Tuesday evenings of the 3rd and 10th of November between 6 30pm and 9pm.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is the one where I'll show you how you can spot weather windows up to five days in advance.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'll show you how to quickly and easily forecast cloud basics, cloud tops, um, showers, rain, visibility, mist, fog, things like that.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in a very similar way that I do um during these forecasts.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: You can grab your place there now.
• 52:09
  SPEAKER_00: Again, use the QR code or go to weatherschool.co.uk.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be super to see you there.
• 52:13
  SPEAKER_00: And don't forget, on both courses, you actually get a recording of each of the sessions to watch for a few weeks afterwards, so you can catch on on anything you may have missed.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I will leave you with that for now.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever you're doing.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: Have a great, have a safe flying weekend, and uh, I'll see you next week.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: Bye for now.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, it looks pretty good actually.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: For some parts of the country.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's it.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_04: Is there anywhere to fly this this weekend?
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, there is, yep.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: A big event this weekend is the Thruxton Triple Challenge.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: This is uh the event that was postponed from late August because of weather.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: But this look looks like it's going to go ahead this weekend.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: It involves Truxton, Popham, and Solett airfields.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_01: You go to each and there's a little exercise to perform what each other.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_04: There's a taxi challenge at one airfield.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, not like a QRISC III critical exercise.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_04: No.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_04: No, it's all challenges in your aeroplane, isn't it?
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_04: There's a sp is there a spot landing?
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_04: Spot landing, uh an accuracy of flying, so like a time thing, and then uh the the most controversial, which had a lot of people, which is taxiing near to a frangible object, wasn't it?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um it's like the taxi challenge.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_04: How close can you get to um to precision taxi?
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_03: I once taxied close to a non-frangible object.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yes.
• 53:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, and lost.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_03: And lost, yeah.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, also this weekend it's Race Day Air Show at Shuttleworth.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that'll be a good one.
• 53:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's always a great event.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um next weekend at back at Pottham, there's the Daedalus?
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Daidless flying.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: Daidless, end of s end of season flying.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's on Saturday the 10th.
• 53:41
  SPEAKER_01: Coming up on Saturday the 17th of October is Pilot Careers Live in Dublin.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_01: Should be over there.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yep, at the uh convention centre in Dublin.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_03: Beautiful building.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_03: Great show.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_03: Brilliant.
• 53:53
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, well, in that case, it just remains for me to say, in fact, before I get to that part, it just remains for me to say, please subscribe to our YouTube channel and join the flyer club, flyer.co.uk forward slash membership.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much for watching and spending the evening with us or the day or whenever you're watching this.
• 54:07
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you very much, team.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_03: Uh thank you, Henry, and we'll see you soon.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_03: Cheers.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_03: Ready?
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_04: Um Dave seems very close to me.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_04: Dave is close than he's ever been.
• 54:19
  SPEAKER_04: So I call that into question.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm as far this way as I can go.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_04: And it's worrying.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_04: It's not it's I'm gonna move up really close to it.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_03: I can't go with this.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_04: My my electronic conspicuity is going off.