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USA BEATS Canada, Is there value to going to the Combine, Chicago MOVING to Indiana? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff three
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Speaker 1: now podcasts. Hopefully you are doing well out there in
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Speaker 1: the streets. Let's see if I still know how to
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Speaker 1: podcast your boys back. We're back again recording a little
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Speaker 1: podcast after a week. You know, a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 1: it would have been a nice little vacation week. Who knows,
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Speaker 1: maybe it would have gone to somewhere. I guess I
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Speaker 1: live in somewhere sunny but Hawaii or something. Now I
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Speaker 1: just sit and hold a baby and watch the Olympics,
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Speaker 1: so get three hours sleep. So life has changed, but
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Speaker 1: sports is not. So I'm gonna lead to day show
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Speaker 1: with the USA hockey situation that that was just I
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Speaker 1: watched so much Olympics over the last week, and watching
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Speaker 1: that game this morning, and watching all the games this
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Speaker 1: week with the hockey team sports a special man. That
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Speaker 1: was really really cool. This is the Combine week. We
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Speaker 1: will be going to the Combine for a couple of days,
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Speaker 1: rubbing elbows with the people. Coach Reid. I was texting him,
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Speaker 1: I said, coach, come on the podcast, said John, I
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Speaker 1: will not be there. I'm on an injured reserve, so
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Speaker 1: Andy will not be on the show. He got knee surgery,
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Speaker 1: but I think we got veach. I gotta I said
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Speaker 1: out a million texts to gms efforting coaches, So we'll
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Speaker 1: see what happens. But uh, we'll have a lot of
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Speaker 1: content coming from the combine, but I want to dive
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Speaker 1: in with some general thoughts on the combine. And then
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Speaker 1: one of the big stories last week while I was
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Speaker 1: not doing shows was the Bears moving to Indiana. So
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Speaker 1: some thoughts there we will dive into as well, and
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Speaker 1: We appreciate everyone watching. So let's just uh, let's dive
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Speaker 1: into the hockey show. Let's dive into USA baby, Like,
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Speaker 1: if you're listening to this, I'm sure we can agree.
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Speaker 1: Like we're big sports people. We like sports. I grew
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Speaker 1: up loving sports. It was honestly the only thing, or
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Speaker 1: one of the only things in life I could remember.
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Speaker 1: Like I could go to class, I couldn't remember anything
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Speaker 1: the teachers told me. Through college, I got a graduate degree.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember much, if anything, I've ever learned in
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Speaker 1: the classroom. Yet, if you told me, especially when I
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Speaker 1: was younger, Pepper, some guy that played in nineteen ninety three,
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Speaker 1: where'd you go to college? I knew it. How many
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Speaker 1: yards he had, how many home runs he had? You know,
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Speaker 1: I love that stuff. And when it comes to sports,
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Speaker 1: like I am an equal opportunist. Now, I don't like
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Speaker 1: hockey as much which as I do football or golf,
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Speaker 1: but I treated a lot like the UFC. I don't
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Speaker 1: watch the NHL, though I do chime in in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: I don't watch the UFC, but I couldn't have any
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Speaker 1: more respect for the people that participated it had. Their
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Speaker 1: respect level for me is a ten out of ten.
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Speaker 1: And like many of you, I watched every minute of
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Speaker 1: this USA Hockey run, and I was glued. The Hughes
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Speaker 1: Brothers KA Chuck Brothers Obviously the momentum from the All
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Speaker 1: Star Game format of last year, which was incredible, all
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Speaker 1: these same players that were on those teams was just
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Speaker 1: freaking awesome. Then you factor in USA across their jersey.
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Speaker 1: You factor in that we got to take out potentially
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Speaker 1: if we could make it there Canada, who some players
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Speaker 1: in the tournament on other teams that play in the NHL,
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Speaker 1: considered this Canadian team like the greatest team ever assembled.
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Speaker 1: In fairness, Sydney Crosby got hurt a couple games ago,
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Speaker 1: but they got the best player in the world in
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Speaker 1: Connor McDavid. They got the next Connor McDavid Celebrini, whose
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Speaker 1: dad is the Warriors athletic trainer. So I'm from the
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Speaker 1: northern California, so I'm definitely more into the Sharks now
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Speaker 1: that he's on the team. But let's face it, most
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Speaker 1: people don't. We were gonna lose in this game. And
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Speaker 1: this is what makes sports so powerful is because of
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Speaker 1: my wife. I watch a lot of Bravo, whether it's
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Speaker 1: Southern Charm, whether it's Summer House. Our guy Wes who
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Speaker 1: I met at the Volume party, who's on Summerhouse, who's
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Speaker 1: really fucking cool and is now becoming a big star
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Speaker 1: on that show. To Love is Blind, I mean we
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Speaker 1: have been dialed into that show. These all have scripted
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Speaker 1: elements to them. I mean there are moments in all
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Speaker 1: these shows that's like, this isn't row and real, this
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Speaker 1: is fake. And in fairness, they're in the business of
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Speaker 1: getting the most people to watch. It's entertainment. It ultimately,
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Speaker 1: sports is entertainment. But there's a purity to it, and
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Speaker 1: there was, and we've seen it recently. Like Sam Donald
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Speaker 1: several years ago was one of the laughing stocks of
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Speaker 1: the sport of football, whether it came to getting mono
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Speaker 1: I thinks a rookie to I'm seeing ghosts, to people
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Speaker 1: just generally thinking he is not a good player, to
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Speaker 1: several years later being the starting quarterback for a team
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Speaker 1: that won seventeen games and the Super Bowl. And now
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald before Josh Allen, before Lamar Jackson, two guys
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Speaker 1: that are gonna be first bout Hall of famers. He
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Speaker 1: has a Super Bowl before those two guys, Like, you
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Speaker 1: can't make that stuff up. You couldn't write that stuff
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Speaker 1: in sports movies. And then you get this group today
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Speaker 1: who won. I don't quite understand, you know, all these
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Speaker 1: games have been in the middle of the day, like
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Speaker 1: one o'clock Mountain time for me, which is late in Italy.
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Speaker 1: In Italy and I get there's a time change, but
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Speaker 1: for some reason, this game kicked off at the crack
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Speaker 1: of dawn. Anyone that has a young child, you don't
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Speaker 1: get much sleep, You're going to bed at like three
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Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. Was hard to get up for,
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Speaker 1: but found a way to, like kind of groggy watching
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Speaker 1: it on my phone the first couple periods. Then you
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Speaker 1: kind of wake up and watch the stretch of the game.
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Speaker 1: But it was just something that so many people in
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Speaker 1: my life that I would not consider hockey people. I
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Speaker 1: don't have that many hockey friends. I honestly don't know
6:17
Speaker 1: if I really have any. My wife would be on
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Speaker 1: the extreme end, her brother and herself and her dad.
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Speaker 1: They were season ticket holders, well they weren't. Their dad
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Speaker 1: was to the San Jose Sharks. They grew up going
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Speaker 1: to these games. They love hockey. The first time I've
6:31
Speaker 1: only been to one hockey game in my life, it
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Speaker 1: was one of the Phoenix Coyotes. They played in downtown
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Speaker 1: or they played at Tempe where ASU plays. It's literally
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Speaker 1: ASU's club. Hockey arena. This seas like four thousand people
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Speaker 1: and I got up while the action was going on
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Speaker 1: to go get I'd either go to the bathroom or
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Speaker 1: get a beer whatever. My wife like, you cannot get up,
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Speaker 1: Like what do you mean? And they wouldn't let me
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Speaker 1: get up because in hockey, it's not baseball, it's not basketball,
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Speaker 1: it's not you can't just get up whenever you want.
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Speaker 1: You can only get up and go to the course,
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Speaker 1: to the bathroom, whatever when the action is stopped. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't even know these rules, but
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Speaker 1: you couldn't help but get behind these guys their emotion,
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Speaker 1: their strong connection to each other, and the pride they
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Speaker 1: took in their logo. And let's face it, you know
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Speaker 1: I love football, but there's no flag football is gonna
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Speaker 1: be in the Olympics. It's not real football. And I
7:25
Speaker 1: know if like football has expanded, a lot more people
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Speaker 1: have interest, Like it is a completely different game than
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Speaker 1: what we watched during the fall, right, Baseball, basketball, all
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Speaker 1: these other sports can play their same game in the Olympics.
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Speaker 1: Is pretty cool and basketball forever, Like when I was
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Speaker 1: a kid, the dream Team was created. They beat the
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Speaker 1: shit out of everybody other teams were waiting in line
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Speaker 1: to get Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Larry Bird, and Magic
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Speaker 1: Johnson's autographs. To now twenty years later we lost some Olympics.
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Speaker 1: To the last Olympics with Stephen Lebron there was like
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Speaker 1: that was incredible to theater, and I said, this is
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Speaker 1: an issue the NBA has. When the people involved in
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Speaker 1: the entertainment don't care, you can't expect the consumer to care. Right,
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Speaker 1: It's one thing football has built in football when you
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Speaker 1: watch a football game for the most part, right, obviously
8:14
Speaker 1: you get blowouts in games that aren't close, but for
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Speaker 1: the most part, every team, especially in the NFL and
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Speaker 1: high level of college is giving one hundred percent their
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Speaker 1: full effort. No one ever disputes with college football or
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Speaker 1: the NFL that players and coaches aren't doing everything humanly
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Speaker 1: possible Monday through leading up to the game to get
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Speaker 1: ready and then during the game laying it all on
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Speaker 1: the field. It's why I think it really resonates with
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Speaker 1: so many people. Obviously the inventory factor, there's not as
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Speaker 1: many games, but when you turn on the game, like
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Speaker 1: everyone is just laying it on the line. It's why
8:47
Speaker 1: UFC has become such a rocket ship. When you watch
8:50
Speaker 1: these fights, you're like, these guys, they are just crazy
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Speaker 1: to get in that octagon. The level of effort you
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Speaker 1: have to put in just preparing, let alone the crazy
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Speaker 1: in which you have to get in there to even
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Speaker 1: attempt to win a fight. And that's the one thing
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Speaker 1: hockey has. Jack Hughes, who scores the game winning goal,
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Speaker 1: is interviewed after he's missing a tooth and bleeding. Did
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Speaker 1: he just lost in that game? Like that's the thing
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Speaker 1: everyone will dive into the combine and draft prospects. Part
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Speaker 1: of this dude at Kansas who keeps tapping out of
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Speaker 1: the games. One of the things I keep saying is
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Speaker 1: this is not football or hockey. Like your likelihood of
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Speaker 1: getting a major injury, especially as a smaller player. It's
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Speaker 1: one thing as a big is kind of slim to
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Speaker 1: nun and especially when you're getting judged against all these
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Speaker 1: other guys in your class who are just playing balls
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Speaker 1: to the wall. It's why if you watch Byu, if
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Speaker 1: you watch that kid at Arkansas, if you watch Boozer
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Speaker 1: play at Duke, you're like, God, these guys play really
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Speaker 1: really hard, which I think we all really respect. You
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Speaker 1: look at this NFL Draft class. We watch Fernando mcdoza,
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Speaker 1: We watched the two defensive linemen at Miami. You're like,
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Speaker 1: these guys till the season ended, just fucking gave it
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Speaker 1: all they had, which you have to respect because winning
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Speaker 1: and losing. Obviously, it is very difficult. That the margins
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Speaker 1: between him are very, very slim. But you watch today
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Speaker 1: and you just watch a group like that, that was pretty special.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what else to say. It was just
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Speaker 1: a pretty cool, really cool, genuine moment, and I just
10:16
Speaker 1: thought it resonated with a lot of people you can
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Speaker 1: tell online because one we weren't supposed to win. Two
10:23
Speaker 1: this is not our sport. I put this out on
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Speaker 1: Twitter earlier this week. I kind of hate. That's actually
10:29
Speaker 1: a pet peeve of mine when people say that, like
10:31
Speaker 1: I tweeted out like no one cares. But I was
10:34
Speaker 1: thinking this, that's probably a better way to put this
10:36
Speaker 1: Earlier this week when I'm trying to, you know, console
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Speaker 1: my child from screaming where you could hear him from
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Speaker 1: ten miles away, not because we're doing anything, just because
10:44
Speaker 1: he's a baby and they scream, and the problem is
10:47
Speaker 1: I can't really communicate, so you don't really know what's up.
10:49
Speaker 1: But that's the story for a different day. Is that
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Speaker 1: this hockey team, this group of guys who all seem
10:55
Speaker 1: like I'm googling them all between twenty five and early thirties,
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Speaker 1: to be everything we've always wanted. And I don't pretend
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Speaker 1: to be a soccer guy. Though I respect the power
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Speaker 1: of the sport. I saw someone put out on Instagram
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Speaker 1: within the last week that the power of the global sport,
11:14
Speaker 1: because clearly rog I mean, he's sending people to Australia.
11:16
Speaker 1: The Niners or Rams are kicking off there potentially on Wednesday,
11:20
Speaker 1: which I do understand why they're gonna have to play
11:22
Speaker 1: a game on Wednesday, because of the calendar and the laws.
11:25
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be able to play on Friday week
11:27
Speaker 1: one this year, but they want to get two games
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Speaker 1: before the weekend, so they're gonna cheat the system and
11:32
Speaker 1: go Wednesday. So they said, might as well send him
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Speaker 1: to Australia. But clearly they want un listen the bad
11:38
Speaker 1: Buddy situation. Roger wants to go international, he wants to
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Speaker 1: go global. There was a reason he would rather go
11:45
Speaker 1: with Bad Bundy than like Morgan Wallen or Metallica he'd
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Speaker 1: rather resonate with other people in other countries. That is
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Speaker 1: their next big I've been saying this forever. Roger Goodell
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Speaker 1: wants to have a package where they're playing all over
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Speaker 1: the world every single week. That is clearly a stated
12:04
Speaker 1: desire and goal from the league office right now. Whether
12:07
Speaker 1: we agree or disagree, whether it's gonna work, only time
12:10
Speaker 1: will tell. But the old adage in business, you're either
12:12
Speaker 1: growing or you're dying. And like, I think he'd be
12:15
Speaker 1: the first to say it's gonna be hard to add
12:17
Speaker 1: more domestic fans. He's probably right, And I think a
12:20
Speaker 1: lot of casual people would go, you guys are printing money,
12:23
Speaker 1: you don't need to get any bigger. That's not how
12:24
Speaker 1: businesses think. It's like how do we grow? How do
12:26
Speaker 1: we incrementally grow? And back to the soccer thing is
12:29
Speaker 1: I guess there was a soccer game like Man City
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Speaker 1: might have played Liverpool or somebody, and it might have
12:36
Speaker 1: been Sunday morning of the Super Bowl, and seven hundred
12:39
Speaker 1: fifty million people watched, like one hundred and fifty million
12:41
Speaker 1: people watch super Bowl. Seven hundred and fifty million people
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Speaker 1: watch that game. And I think Roger forever is like
12:48
Speaker 1: Roger's trying to screw aut him Silver. I don't think
12:50
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell thinks about Adam Silver. He's completely irrelevant to
12:53
Speaker 1: their operation. I think he goes, how do we become
12:56
Speaker 1: closer to soccer in the EPL. And again, whether that's
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Speaker 1: poss I don't know. But part of what makes the
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Speaker 1: Olympics cool is like this global operation. Now, hockey is
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Speaker 1: a little more specific to certain countries, right, Canada dominates
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Speaker 1: in theories some like Eastern European countries should dominate. And
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Speaker 1: obviously we've gotten really good and we haven't won the
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Speaker 1: goal since nineteen eighty when NHL players weren't even there
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Speaker 1: but watching the pride and the joy they had in it.
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Speaker 1: And then there's just I said this about Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 1: There was a human interest level story in Sam. Most
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Speaker 1: of us could relate to it. Right, he failed, stumbled.
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Speaker 1: Now most of us can't relate to Like, millions of
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Speaker 1: people watched his failure, right, and I guess indirectly made
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Speaker 1: fun of him when we stumbled. Maybe our family knows.
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Speaker 1: Maybe the people were working with nose. It's much more
13:48
Speaker 1: of a kind of controlled environment. But I think that
13:52
Speaker 1: resonated with a lot of people, and then you went like,
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Speaker 1: is Sam a good guy? Is Sam the type guy
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Speaker 1: that most people I would want to be friends with?
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Speaker 1: And the answer was like always yes. So I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of people just gravitated like Sam. Darnold's just
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Speaker 1: a fun story to root for. He is a relatable individual.
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Speaker 1: And you watch these guys that moment like you can't
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Speaker 1: make up the situation that happened with I think it's
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Speaker 1: Johnny Goudreau. I might be messing up his name, also
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Speaker 1: known as Johnny Hockey, who died in one of the
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Speaker 1: worst tragedies you can ever imagine, right hit riding a
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Speaker 1: bike with his brother the day before his sister's wedding
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Speaker 1: while he has two young children, and it turns out
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Speaker 1: his wife was seven months pregnant. I just I can't
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Speaker 1: even even before I had a child. That story is
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Speaker 1: just that hurts every single human I will ever meet
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Speaker 1: to their soul. Died riding a bike the day before
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Speaker 1: his sister's wedding while his wife is pregnant, while they
14:56
Speaker 1: also have two young children with his brother, and he
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Speaker 1: obviously was a star American hockey player. By all accounts,
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Speaker 1: he not only would have been on this team, but
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Speaker 1: he was close friends with all these guys, and then
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Speaker 1: they win the gold and his best friend, who his teammate,
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Speaker 1: who happens to be on this team, grabs his kids
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Speaker 1: brings him out to take the picture with his jersey.
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Speaker 1: Like it's like, you can't. I don't get those reactions
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Speaker 1: and those feelings inside me in many walks of life, right,
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Speaker 1: most people, like you don't have a kid every day,
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Speaker 1: you don't get married every day. You don't go on
15:35
Speaker 1: the best day of your life most days. You don't
15:39
Speaker 1: have devastating things happen to you. Most days, you don't
15:43
Speaker 1: even have that many things that happen outside of your
15:46
Speaker 1: world that really emotionally move you. Most days. I mean,
15:50
Speaker 1: you just don't, you know, especially if you don't live
15:53
Speaker 1: on your fucking phone and let the algo create madness
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Speaker 1: in your brain and you see this and you go, damn,
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Speaker 1: that's something that just it's words can't even describe it.
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Speaker 1: But you know when you watch it, the feeling you
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Speaker 1: get inside, and that's what I think. This what happened
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Speaker 1: with this team was like, man, that was really really cool.
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Speaker 1: And I think sports is still one of the last
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Speaker 1: kind of areas in society where it just draws so
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Speaker 1: many people from so many different walks of life, from
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Speaker 1: so many different beliefs, from so many different economic statuses.
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Speaker 1: From most of us that you're listening to me, I'll
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Speaker 1: probably never meet you. Yet we all sat there and
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Speaker 1: watched these games and had a similar reaction, no different
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Speaker 1: than Canada being devastated by losing the game. Right that
16:49
Speaker 1: it draws all these people in a country that live
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Speaker 1: on opposite ends, you know, of three thousand miles away.
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Speaker 1: They're all pulling in the same direction. Now, Canada pulling
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Speaker 1: for their guys is more like us pulling if the
17:04
Speaker 1: NFL was a global sport and we were represented in
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Speaker 1: the Olympics to play football. Right, that's not the case.
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Speaker 1: But I just think that was awesome. It really was,
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Speaker 1: and I couldn't get enough of it. And I'm glad
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Speaker 1: that the way the timing of this worked out with
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19:15
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19:20
Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. The Combine is this week,
19:31
Speaker 1: and big picture, I mean there were a lot of
19:33
Speaker 1: talks over the last several years to move the Combine too.
19:36
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. My buddy Phil Savage, who I haven't talked
19:40
Speaker 1: to in a while. I think he's still working for
19:41
Speaker 1: the Jets, ran the Senior Bowl for a long time.
19:43
Speaker 1: He's originally from Alabama, worked for the Ravens forever, became
19:47
Speaker 1: a GM in the league. I worked with him for
19:49
Speaker 1: a brief stint in Philadelphia. That's how I got to
19:53
Speaker 1: know him, and when he ran the Senior Bowl, I
19:55
Speaker 1: remember talking to him. He's the thing he was always
19:57
Speaker 1: worried about, and he's he lives in New York City now,
19:59
Speaker 1: but forever He's from fair Hope, Alabama, and you know,
20:03
Speaker 1: the small town that area means a lot to him.
20:06
Speaker 1: He was always worried that they were gonna move the
20:07
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl eventually to like Los Angeles, right to the
20:10
Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium, and it still might eventually happen, right. Jim Naggy,
20:15
Speaker 1: who then ran the Senior Bowl after Phil, is now
20:18
Speaker 1: the GM at Oklahoma so and by all accounts, the
20:20
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, the talent they get is not quite the same.
20:23
Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily long for Alabama. I'd say
20:26
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Combine. They desperately wanted to
20:28
Speaker 1: move the Combine to a bigger city, specifically Los Angeles,
20:32
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of pushback for the league.
20:34
Speaker 1: It's really one of the most unique places I've ever
20:38
Speaker 1: been to because you can stay at most of the hotels,
20:42
Speaker 1: whether it's the spring Hill Suites or whether it's like
20:45
Speaker 1: I don't think they have four seasons in Indie, but
20:47
Speaker 1: like the JW. Marriott, which is probably the nicest hotel
20:50
Speaker 1: to all these, you never have to go outside. So
20:53
Speaker 1: even in the heart of winner when it's freezing cold,
20:56
Speaker 1: it's all connected by these walkways and this convention center
21:01
Speaker 1: that leads right to the football stadium that you're all
21:04
Speaker 1: kind of under the same cocoon. It's just an incredible
21:08
Speaker 1: city to operate from a logistical standpoint to run this event.
21:12
Speaker 1: And there was a major pushback and they were able
21:15
Speaker 1: to keep the event in Indianapolis, which I'm glad. It's
21:19
Speaker 1: a city that I don't go do very often and
21:21
Speaker 1: I've only been to for the Combine, but whatever, I'm there.
21:24
Speaker 1: Someone asked me recently, like, what's it like. Is a
21:26
Speaker 1: cool city? I'm like, yeah, I always really really enjoy it.
21:29
Speaker 1: It's clearly kind of a small, bigger Midwestern city that
21:33
Speaker 1: it's just very, very easy to operate. But the keys
21:36
Speaker 1: of this week, which has changed a lot a lot
21:38
Speaker 1: of teams. I just read a story today, read a
21:41
Speaker 1: story to be Strong, so a headline that the Jaguars
21:45
Speaker 1: will not attend, you know, the Rams do not attend.
21:49
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, I'm sure will not attend. A lot of
21:52
Speaker 1: people have chosen. Sean McVay will not be at the combine. Now,
21:57
Speaker 1: John Lynch will be there. I don't think sneak goes.
22:01
Speaker 1: A lot of GMS go if their coaches don't go
22:03
Speaker 1: knowing where the Jags is going. And I think the Jags,
22:06
Speaker 1: like the Rams, they believe there's this bias. Kyle Shanahan
22:09
Speaker 1: just doesn't want to go things is kind of pointless.
22:11
Speaker 1: He just zooms into the meetings. Listen. I think there's
22:15
Speaker 1: value there and I want to go through some of
22:17
Speaker 1: the things that are valuable. One, the most valuable thing
22:20
Speaker 1: in the immediate is your GM and your front office
22:23
Speaker 1: going to gauge the market. How much are players on
22:27
Speaker 1: my team that are free agents going to costs? Because
22:30
Speaker 1: these agents are going from team to team finding the market,
22:34
Speaker 1: finding the number, and then knowing how much higher with
22:37
Speaker 1: that number can we go. So the number one thing
22:39
Speaker 1: of the free agents that are on your own team
22:41
Speaker 1: that you want to keep, how much are they gonna cost?
22:44
Speaker 1: What's the price and can we afford to keep them
22:47
Speaker 1: based on our salary cap or if we can't do
22:50
Speaker 1: we need to manipulate some stuff so we can't resign
22:52
Speaker 1: them to me, That's the number one thing. And then
22:55
Speaker 1: the guys that are not on your team that you
22:57
Speaker 1: would be interested in signing, how much are they going
22:59
Speaker 1: to so you can gauge do we have enough room
23:02
Speaker 1: to sign them, because by now you've targeted the good teams.
23:06
Speaker 1: It's hard for some of the teams with new coaches,
23:08
Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts. But if you have a
23:10
Speaker 1: team that everyone you know, the Packers, the Niners, the Rams,
23:14
Speaker 1: all all your front office and coaching staff is returning,
23:17
Speaker 1: you have spent the last month plus determining these three
23:21
Speaker 1: or four guys are number one targets. Well, how much
23:24
Speaker 1: are those guys are gonna cost? And can we afford
23:26
Speaker 1: to have them in our salary cap? And if we can't,
23:28
Speaker 1: can we manipulate some guys that are on our team
23:31
Speaker 1: move some money back and figure out a way to
23:33
Speaker 1: keep them. So to me, it's all about in a
23:36
Speaker 1: couple of weeks free agency hits, setting that up and
23:39
Speaker 1: then factored into that if you are teams interested a
23:43
Speaker 1: lot of these new teams, you know, whether you're the Dolphins,
23:46
Speaker 1: the Harball, the Ravens, all these teams have new coaches.
23:51
Speaker 1: So are there were there players on the staff or
23:54
Speaker 1: excuse me, on the roster even if the GM you know,
23:57
Speaker 1: Joe Shane is technically just a college scouty director now,
24:00
Speaker 1: but you know, do we have guys on this roster?
24:04
Speaker 1: That are not gonna fit, that might be good players,
24:06
Speaker 1: but are not gonna fit what we want to do
24:08
Speaker 1: on offensive defense, because if we do, we're gonna be
24:11
Speaker 1: interested in trading them. So that gets out this week, Hey,
24:15
Speaker 1: these five players were open to trading, and then you
24:17
Speaker 1: find a market or hey, we'd be interested in these
24:20
Speaker 1: three guys. Would you be interested in trading them? How
24:23
Speaker 1: much are they gonna like? What do you want for them?
24:26
Speaker 1: And then clearly the big name guys, everyone's gonna be
24:29
Speaker 1: asking about AJ Brown, and everyone's gonna be asking about
24:31
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. And there are probably other several other players
24:34
Speaker 1: that we will find out over the course of the
24:36
Speaker 1: next week that are also available for trade. What's it
24:39
Speaker 1: gonna cost? Obviously, Max Crosby. I was texting with a
24:45
Speaker 1: you know, a pretty accomplished coach over the course of
24:47
Speaker 1: the last week, and he's like, I'd be a little
24:49
Speaker 1: stunned if they traded Max Crosby. They just elevated the
24:52
Speaker 1: defensive line coach who is Max Crosby's boy to the
24:56
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator for the Raiders, And a lot of people
24:58
Speaker 1: are in the league think that's a sign are gonna
25:00
Speaker 1: desperately try to keep them in their good graces and
25:03
Speaker 1: keep them on their team, which don't blame you. He's
25:06
Speaker 1: one of the best players in the league and very
25:09
Speaker 1: well respected. But I think they're gonna treat this like
25:12
Speaker 1: an NBA player, like a Yahnis of, like, well, what
25:15
Speaker 1: would it cost to get him if you would entertain
25:18
Speaker 1: trading him to me? AJ Brown thing's a little more complicated.
25:21
Speaker 1: He's a little bit of an older player now when
25:24
Speaker 1: he's on a SOLI elite who's productions dipped a little
25:26
Speaker 1: bit the last couple of years, and he's really really
25:28
Speaker 1: expensive in a league where you can find wide receivers
25:33
Speaker 1: kind of easily. Now, maybe not to AJ Brown's level,
25:37
Speaker 1: but could I sign two guys, sign a guy, and
25:39
Speaker 1: draft a guy for way cheaper than trading a second
25:43
Speaker 1: round pick for a thirty two million dollar guy. So
25:46
Speaker 1: I do wonder if that thing's if AJ Brown ends
25:50
Speaker 1: up going for less than you would think a player
25:54
Speaker 1: of his status and talent would go for. We're on
25:57
Speaker 1: the flip side. I think if Max Crosby was t's rated,
26:00
Speaker 1: my guess would be you get multiple first round picks.
26:03
Speaker 1: And if I was a team the Bears, the Lions,
26:07
Speaker 1: the Bills those type team and the Eagles, I would
26:09
Speaker 1: have no problem giving multiple first round picks. Still risky,
26:12
Speaker 1: and then this is football, guys get hurt. He's a
26:13
Speaker 1: little bit older, he's finished the last couple of years injured,
26:16
Speaker 1: But I would have no problem making a very aggressive
26:19
Speaker 1: bid to land Max Crosby. He is that good, he's
26:23
Speaker 1: that serious, he plays that hard, and he's that dominant
26:27
Speaker 1: of a player. I can't even imagine if you put
26:30
Speaker 1: him on a good team what he would look like.
26:31
Speaker 1: I mean, he's played on one of the worst teams
26:33
Speaker 1: in the league over the last several years and is
26:35
Speaker 1: clearly one of the best players in the league. What
26:37
Speaker 1: would he look like on a team that's winning twelve
26:39
Speaker 1: to fourteen games, that has help around him. I mean,
26:42
Speaker 1: it would be pretty scary. It would kind of look
26:45
Speaker 1: like Michah Parsons this year on the Packers was like,
26:47
Speaker 1: holy shit, the sky looks good. Okay, so we got
26:51
Speaker 1: that out of the way. To me, the second most
26:53
Speaker 1: important thing is just meeting the draft guys. And this
26:56
Speaker 1: is where the Rams and the Jags guy Gladstone, they
27:00
Speaker 1: feel this creates some bias. At the end of the day,
27:04
Speaker 1: you are acquiring human beings. And while your scout, whether
27:08
Speaker 1: it's at the SEC Scout, your West Coast scout, whoever
27:11
Speaker 1: has met these guys. Maybe your college director has met
27:14
Speaker 1: these players in an All Star game or when they've
27:16
Speaker 1: gone to the school. Your GM and your coach have
27:19
Speaker 1: never met these guys. Now, what can you make in
27:22
Speaker 1: a fifteen twenty minute interview with the player? Obviously you
27:26
Speaker 1: got to take it with a grain of salt, But
27:28
Speaker 1: I do like meeting other individuals. If I'm going to
27:31
Speaker 1: be in the business of using a high draft pick
27:34
Speaker 1: on them, that kind of matters. And also meeting a
27:37
Speaker 1: guy if you have some questions, what does he do
27:40
Speaker 1: when we ask him something that maybe isn't that comfortable
27:43
Speaker 1: And it doesn't have to be Hey, remember when you
27:45
Speaker 1: got your second DUI at nineteen years old. It could
27:48
Speaker 1: be as simply as something like this is what we
27:50
Speaker 1: saw on tape and it really bothers us. What do
27:52
Speaker 1: you have to say for it to see what he answers?
27:55
Speaker 1: And I think there's value in meeting people. I think
27:57
Speaker 1: we would all agree. In this world. I mean, several
28:01
Speaker 1: years ago, it's like no one's ever gonna meet in
28:02
Speaker 1: person again. Everything's gonna be Zoom business. Travel's done. It's like, no,
28:07
Speaker 1: actually it's not. I flew across the country last year
28:11
Speaker 1: to help land deal and it mattered and it worked.
28:15
Speaker 1: Why Because talking to people face to face will always
28:18
Speaker 1: have value, at least for the foreseeable future. And I
28:20
Speaker 1: think that's no different when it comes to football, just
28:22
Speaker 1: like it's no different than whatever business we're in. And
28:26
Speaker 1: I think meeting these guys initially really matters and laying
28:30
Speaker 1: the groundwork of a relationship that you can build on
28:34
Speaker 1: and see if this is something you'd be interested in.
28:36
Speaker 1: Because for as much as you are drafting the player
28:39
Speaker 1: to put on the pads and make tackles and throw
28:41
Speaker 1: touchdowns and catch touchdowns, you are signing the player. This
28:46
Speaker 1: goes back to the James Pierce situation. No one and
28:49
Speaker 1: I repeat nobody in the NFL would have said last year,
28:52
Speaker 1: at this time James Pierce couldn't play football that that
28:55
Speaker 1: guy is like, holy shit, this guy's a big time
28:57
Speaker 1: talent in any draft. He's a top fifteen ish talent.
29:01
Speaker 1: But we're not comfortable with the guy. But with those
29:04
Speaker 1: type players, I want to get to know the guy.
29:07
Speaker 1: That's the business we're in to do the research, to
29:10
Speaker 1: do the detective work, to do the vetting of the
29:13
Speaker 1: human being. It's not that complicated. So I can never
29:18
Speaker 1: get on board with these guys not valuing the combine
29:21
Speaker 1: when it just comes to meeting the guys two or
29:25
Speaker 1: excuse me. The second part of the draft prospects, and
29:28
Speaker 1: you could argue this is equally as important, at least
29:31
Speaker 1: with anyone that has question marks, is the injury information.
29:35
Speaker 1: The NFL differs from baseball and basketball. They gave basketball,
29:39
Speaker 1: these guys go. These guys don't give out injury information.
29:42
Speaker 1: I remember, listen, I grew up a Sacramento Kings fan.
29:45
Speaker 1: The top prospects still to this day, like withhold medical
29:52
Speaker 1: information from the Kinks. It's like, yeah, we're just not
29:54
Speaker 1: gonna give it to you. Why because we just fucking
29:56
Speaker 1: think you're a joke. That's why. In the NFL, these
29:58
Speaker 1: guys go to the common and they go to a
30:01
Speaker 1: medical check where every trainer, every doctor is there and
30:05
Speaker 1: they get full on physicals. So sometimes you know, a
30:09
Speaker 1: guy's never been injured, he's never had an issue, and
30:12
Speaker 1: then something comes up. And before this has also saved
30:15
Speaker 1: people's lives. They found situations with regular heartbeats that. There
30:19
Speaker 1: have been countless examples of that. And this is also
30:22
Speaker 1: where you get into kind of weird territory where one
30:25
Speaker 1: team and their doctor will go, we have this guy's
30:29
Speaker 1: a medical red flag. We do not think he will
30:31
Speaker 1: last more than two or three years, and so that
30:34
Speaker 1: team like what you're supposed to do as a GM
30:36
Speaker 1: or a coach. He's got a list of your doctor
30:38
Speaker 1: and then you take him off the draft board, and
30:40
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, that guy has a ten
30:42
Speaker 1: year career, makes a couple of Pro Bowls, and you're like, well,
30:44
Speaker 1: we really like the player, and our doctor told us
30:46
Speaker 1: not to do it, and there's nothing you can really
30:48
Speaker 1: do about that. That's the subjective nature of this time
30:52
Speaker 1: of year. I mean, most famously, it potentially derailed Nick
30:56
Speaker 1: Saban's career in the National Football League. The Miami Dolphins
31:01
Speaker 1: team doctor failed Drew Brees on a physical. The Saints
31:05
Speaker 1: clearly did not. How'd that work out? Now, it worked
31:07
Speaker 1: out for Saban at least in college, but not in
31:09
Speaker 1: the pros So I just think that the medical information
31:14
Speaker 1: during this time of year is extremely important, and every
31:19
Speaker 1: team is. It's one of the biggest priorities of the
31:24
Speaker 1: combine and last, but not least, and I think this
31:28
Speaker 1: is diminished over time. The on the field work. You know,
31:33
Speaker 1: Belichick's big thing always was now you could hit him
31:36
Speaker 1: on drafting as he got older. But we're not signing
31:40
Speaker 1: guys to lift two hundred and twenty five pounds, We're
31:43
Speaker 1: not signing guys to run the short shuttle. We're signing
31:46
Speaker 1: guys to play football. Right, So the underwear Olympics gets
31:50
Speaker 1: some pushback, which I understand, though there are some basic
31:54
Speaker 1: metrics that you need to be able to do to
31:57
Speaker 1: excel in the NFL. Right, you can't be a four
32:00
Speaker 1: eight corner that ain't gonna work. I don't give a
32:02
Speaker 1: shit what defensive scheme you run, right, So obviously there
32:05
Speaker 1: are some basic metrics that you run. The biggest part
32:08
Speaker 1: of the on the field workout, whether it's the forties,
32:10
Speaker 1: whether it's some of the the short athletic testing, whether
32:15
Speaker 1: it's the jumping, whether it's just some basic open field movements,
32:19
Speaker 1: it's comparing it to previous drafts. So when I say, hey,
32:23
Speaker 1: this wide receiver reminds me of Zay Flowers, or this
32:27
Speaker 1: guy reminds me of Fletcher Cox, or this guy reminds
32:31
Speaker 1: me of whoever, Well, we can put their tape against
32:34
Speaker 1: each other, and then we can put their physical metrics
32:37
Speaker 1: against each other. It's I say it all the time.
32:39
Speaker 1: It's a lot like real estate. The physical testing determines
32:43
Speaker 1: your market value in the draft. It does not determine
32:47
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a good player or bad player.
32:50
Speaker 1: It just determines what I have to pay for you.
32:52
Speaker 1: So if you run a really slow time as a
32:54
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you're probably not gonna go super high. So
32:58
Speaker 1: I still might really like you. Can I get you
33:00
Speaker 1: in the third round, Poka Nakua, Davonte Adams, I can
33:03
Speaker 1: get I don't have to draft in the top fifty.
33:05
Speaker 1: Davante might have been I think he was like fifty
33:07
Speaker 1: five or whatever. But that's my point. Keenan Allen ran
33:10
Speaker 1: a four to seven to seven. Did that derail his career? No?
33:14
Speaker 1: Why could he get open? DeAndre Hopkins probably couldn't run
33:17
Speaker 1: a five zero forty right now? Doesn't matter. Elite Condesta
33:19
Speaker 1: catching guy. So I think a lot of guys like
33:23
Speaker 1: one of the stories right now is Fernando Mendoza is
33:26
Speaker 1: not gonna throw at the combine. Don't blame him. He
33:29
Speaker 1: just played sixteen games. He played one of the most
33:32
Speaker 1: important four game stretches in the history of college football.
33:36
Speaker 1: Beat Ohio State, beat Alabama, beat Oregon, and beat Miami.
33:40
Speaker 1: Every team in the league watched every single snap of
33:42
Speaker 1: those games in terms of their scouting department. Like, you've
33:45
Speaker 1: seen enough, and you've seen over the body of work
33:48
Speaker 1: of this year. He's been a multi year starter, Like
33:50
Speaker 1: he honestly doesn't need to throw in one of his
33:52
Speaker 1: big things. I will throw. I'll just throw out the
33:55
Speaker 1: pro day with my guys. Don't blame him. A lot
33:57
Speaker 1: of these guys, if some of the Miami guys, some
34:00
Speaker 1: of the Ohio State guys, Like I've seen these guys
34:02
Speaker 1: play a lot of games, like what the film is
34:05
Speaker 1: what matters, And as long as they do that at
34:07
Speaker 1: their pro day, it's like, I don't have a big
34:08
Speaker 1: deal with it. I don't have a big issue with it.
34:11
Speaker 1: And if some guys don't want to, like do some
34:14
Speaker 1: open field workouts and want to do individual work ats
34:17
Speaker 1: with teams like that doesn't bother me either. The world
34:19
Speaker 1: has changed. It used to really bother teams. I think
34:21
Speaker 1: it bothers teams way less and less in twenty twenty six.
34:25
Speaker 1: So there's still a lot of value with the combine.
34:27
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of interest with the combine. I
34:29
Speaker 1: think the combine has become a lot different for teams.
34:32
Speaker 1: It used to be a grind used to do workouts.
34:36
Speaker 1: You know, once the workouts start, like Thursday through Monday,
34:39
Speaker 1: they would start bright and early, and then you'd be
34:42
Speaker 1: interviewing guys till like eleven thirty midnight. I mean, they
34:45
Speaker 1: were long days. Now the interviews. I was texted with
34:48
Speaker 1: a buddy, I'm like, what's the schedule now? He's like,
34:49
Speaker 1: it's way easier. You get interviews closer to the morning.
34:52
Speaker 1: You get some of these workouts in the afternoon when
34:54
Speaker 1: you can kind of zone out because all that stuff's
34:57
Speaker 1: taped anyway. So I just think the combine is kind
35:00
Speaker 1: of morphed in for my own personal interest. I hope
35:06
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35:10
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36:46
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36:55
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37:03
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37:09
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37:15
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37:17
Speaker 1: so I rooted for them to stay. Though big picture,
37:20
Speaker 1: you would much rather be from a financial standpoint, in
37:24
Speaker 1: Vegas than in the city of Oakland, especially when you
37:27
Speaker 1: factor in there's another team that takes up all the
37:30
Speaker 1: resources in the area given us. The forty nine Ers
37:33
Speaker 1: and the Warriors had left, and then obviously the A's
37:36
Speaker 1: had decerately been trying to leave forever. And you think
37:39
Speaker 1: they've pulled it off. They're currently playing at a Triple
37:41
Speaker 1: A Stadium, Sacramento. But the point is, like every team
37:44
Speaker 1: left Oakland. The Raiders weren't alone. The Rams had been
37:48
Speaker 1: stolen from Los Angeles. So when you know back, I
37:50
Speaker 1: remember Joe Buckett and so mad. It's like the only
37:52
Speaker 1: reason you had the Rams because you took him from
37:54
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They weren't technically your team San Diego. I
37:58
Speaker 1: woulds they would stayed in San Diego financially from knowing
38:01
Speaker 1: people around that organization. It was the right economic move.
38:05
Speaker 1: And this stuff is all about economics. This situation happens
38:09
Speaker 1: when there are two variables. And I ultimately got fired
38:12
Speaker 1: for this because well this and I used to piss
38:16
Speaker 1: Mark Davis off because I used to their team was terrible.
38:19
Speaker 1: I did the postgame show and I used to be like,
38:21
Speaker 1: this is awful. But they used to get really, really
38:24
Speaker 1: mad when I would come on air and talk about
38:27
Speaker 1: how stupid the move was. Like they wanted me to
38:29
Speaker 1: be like an activist push propaganda, and I was like,
38:33
Speaker 1: I you shouldn't move to Vegas now if I removed
38:37
Speaker 1: my emotional attachment to the At the time, all the
38:40
Speaker 1: people in my life were like, it's a no brainer move.
38:42
Speaker 1: It was a no brainer Moove, and financially, the Raiders
38:45
Speaker 1: are way better off now than they were when I
38:48
Speaker 1: was around them and they were in major, major economic trouble.
38:52
Speaker 1: The Bears are on a higher level because they're in
38:55
Speaker 1: a major one of our biggest cities in America that
38:58
Speaker 1: has unlimited financial capital in terms of to invest in
39:02
Speaker 1: the team, sponsorships, sweets like they will have no problem
39:06
Speaker 1: printing money. But like the Raider situation, like the Bengals situation,
39:11
Speaker 1: their owners do not have liquid cash. And whenever I
39:15
Speaker 1: see people online of like we do not give billionaire's
39:18
Speaker 1: tax breaks. There's a big difference between a David Tepper
39:22
Speaker 1: who owns the Panthers. I just saw a headline that
39:25
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen made more money last year than any other
39:29
Speaker 1: head fund in America. Steve cohen profit was three point
39:32
Speaker 1: four billion dollars. David Temper was right behind him at
39:35
Speaker 1: three point two billion dollars. That has nothing to do
39:38
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. He made three point two billion
39:41
Speaker 1: dollars in his side business. Well, he'd say probably his
39:44
Speaker 1: main business, but maybe the Panthers are his main business.
39:46
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, David Tepper is a
39:50
Speaker 1: money printing machine. You see this with Steve Bomber. There
39:54
Speaker 1: is no amount of money that's any issue to the guy. Hell,
39:58
Speaker 1: he hates that there is a salary cap in the
40:01
Speaker 1: business that he's in now in the NBA because it
40:04
Speaker 1: neutralizes his ability to outspend people. Right, And so when
40:09
Speaker 1: you look at the Bears, their family does not flush
40:12
Speaker 1: with cash. Stan Kronkie, we had Alguido on and he
40:16
Speaker 1: was talking about the cost of making these stadiums and
40:20
Speaker 1: he mentioned there was a six billion dollar stadium. You know,
40:22
Speaker 1: New paid for that stan Kronky in cash, maybe not
40:26
Speaker 1: all cash, but he paid for it all stand But
40:29
Speaker 1: that's that's his He owns that himself. He rents it
40:33
Speaker 1: out to the Chargers for a dollar a year, which
40:35
Speaker 1: is in the hell of a deal. But it stands
40:37
Speaker 1: why because he has an ungodly amount of money. When
40:41
Speaker 1: you want to build one of these stadiums and you're
40:43
Speaker 1: someone like the Raiders seven eight years ago, they needed help.
40:47
Speaker 1: They could not do it on their own, not because
40:50
Speaker 1: they're these filthy rich guys that are hoarding all this.
40:52
Speaker 1: They don't have the money. They can't do it. And
40:55
Speaker 1: whenever I see people, if you can't afford to build
40:57
Speaker 1: the stadium, you should sell the team. That's a right
41:00
Speaker 1: mindset and theory knowing thinks like that, and the mccaskeys
41:03
Speaker 1: definitely are not selling the team, at least for the
41:05
Speaker 1: foreseeable future. So if they're gonna build one of these stadiums,
41:07
Speaker 1: especially in a place like Chicago, it's gonna be expensive
41:11
Speaker 1: as shit. And they do not have the cash to
41:14
Speaker 1: spend three four billion dollars, which I'm sure that's what
41:16
Speaker 1: it would cost in Chicago. When you factor in the unions,
41:19
Speaker 1: when you factor in all the red tape, when you
41:21
Speaker 1: factor in the building costs, it would be astronomical. It
41:24
Speaker 1: was like the forty nine Ers when they built in
41:28
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, which they got a lot of shit for.
41:30
Speaker 1: Because the stadium was much closer to the city. They
41:33
Speaker 1: could not build the stadium on their own. They needed help,
41:36
Speaker 1: and Santa Claric gave them that help. They gave them
41:40
Speaker 1: a lot of money to help build the stadium in
41:42
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers splin a lot of the profits with them.
41:44
Speaker 1: Why because the Yorks did not have the money to
41:47
Speaker 1: do it. So these situations are only possible to get
41:51
Speaker 1: this weird twofold. The owners don't have money, and you
41:55
Speaker 1: get to these politicians that are just kind of wacky.
41:58
Speaker 1: In Chicago, politicians like, oh, politicians are big on our
42:02
Speaker 1: taxpayer dollars, are not gonna go toward a team, which listen, okay,
42:07
Speaker 1: but are you gonna lose the Chicago Bears? Are you
42:09
Speaker 1: gonna lose the Chicago Bears? Like? Is that gonna go
42:12
Speaker 1: on your watch? The Chicago Bears leaf cause I've seen
42:16
Speaker 1: this song and dance before. They might leave if you
42:19
Speaker 1: do not help them, they might leave. And that goes
42:22
Speaker 1: on your watch, which is okay, just do it, just
42:26
Speaker 1: deal with it. And here's the thing is the NFL
42:28
Speaker 1: they were like, I remember in Oakland, we're not dealing
42:30
Speaker 1: with Libby Shaft. We would never do business with this
42:33
Speaker 1: human being. So we're not gonna like get into this
42:35
Speaker 1: war of fucking power. Fuck you were out. And that's
42:38
Speaker 1: how that operated. And I could see Chicago going like
42:42
Speaker 1: this too. With I saw the mayor, the chubby billionaire
42:46
Speaker 1: JP whatever his last name is. One of his big
42:50
Speaker 1: things was like, you know, we've talked to him and
42:53
Speaker 1: we're big on affordability. So if we do help you,
42:57
Speaker 1: we got to make these tickets. So he's trying to
42:58
Speaker 1: determine what they can and sell tickets like this is
43:01
Speaker 1: never gonna work. This is They're just had an impasse
43:05
Speaker 1: and this thing could get a lot uglier before it
43:08
Speaker 1: gets better. But here's what I know. If I'm Roger Goodell,
43:10
Speaker 1: I gotta have Chicago Bears in Chicago. So we got
43:13
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to make this happen. And
43:15
Speaker 1: I googled it the Bears. The mccaskey's own eighty percent
43:19
Speaker 1: of the Bears, which is obviously a large chunk. Do
43:23
Speaker 1: they have to sell some percentage to help have people
43:25
Speaker 1: come in and get them, kind of like the Raiders
43:26
Speaker 1: did with Brady's crew of super billionaires. I don't know.
43:31
Speaker 1: But if I'm Goodell, I just can't have the Bears
43:35
Speaker 1: be playing in Indiana. I just I really can't. So
43:38
Speaker 1: I wonder when the league gets involved, which I would
43:40
Speaker 1: imagine will be relatively quick before a ground's ever broken.
43:45
Speaker 1: But I've seen it before, I would not. Just like,
43:49
Speaker 1: I don't think some of these reporters are doing like
43:52
Speaker 1: propaganda for the Bears to go like this is real,
43:55
Speaker 1: Like I think we're far enough along, like yeah, this
43:58
Speaker 1: is real, Like this is real? They don't have the
44:00
Speaker 1: money to build in Chicago. They are, you know, in
44:03
Speaker 1: downtown Chicago, which is ideal whenever you're in one of
44:06
Speaker 1: these major cities to put a stadium down there, But
44:09
Speaker 1: if you don't have unlimited cash, it is not financially
44:12
Speaker 1: viable to do it because you don't have the money.
44:16
Speaker 1: So I think these situations take on a life of
44:18
Speaker 1: their own, and I think the situation has got a
44:22
Speaker 1: chance to get a lot weirder, right, I mean a
44:25
Speaker 1: lot of I know several people that are associated with
44:27
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, like Kevin Warren is not exactly viewed
44:30
Speaker 1: as some like genius deal maker. Obviously, the people the
44:34
Speaker 1: politicians in Chicago are not exactly viewed like Warren Buffett
44:38
Speaker 1: when it comes to fucking handling money. So you got
44:42
Speaker 1: a lot of different moving parts here. My bet would
44:47
Speaker 1: be this situation's gonna get a lot more bizarre before
44:52
Speaker 1: we ever get Oh, they've just figured something out all
44:54
Speaker 1: as well. With the Chicago Bears, my take is the
44:57
Speaker 1: Chicago Bear's got to play in Chicago. Cogo Bears gott
45:00
Speaker 1: to play in Chicago, right, I don't think that would change, right.
45:04
Speaker 1: The Kansas City, Missouri thing like moving across, Like, that's
45:07
Speaker 1: not as weird Chicago. Bears got to play in Chicago now,
45:10
Speaker 1: whether that's in the suburbs or whatever. I'm not as
45:13
Speaker 1: cut up on that. Like I'm not as bothered with
45:15
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers playing in Silicon Valley as some people.
45:18
Speaker 1: At first, it's like this kind of stupid overtimes. Like
45:21
Speaker 1: I get it. It's a longer drive. You're coming from
45:23
Speaker 1: Sacramento Candlestick there. It is what it is. Some people
45:27
Speaker 1: like it. If you lived in San Jose, it's great.
45:28
Speaker 1: It's way closer, so buckle up. I guess if you're
45:32
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, the volume