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Wrestling, John Cena Heel Turn And Cody Rhodes Longevity #119 · The Grounded Show

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  Speaker 1: So one thing that went so matter of fact, let
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  Speaker 1: me start off. Let me set the scene though, Let
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  Speaker 1: me set the scene. So me and Wifey went out Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Kids weren't home, so we went out to grab some dinner,
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  Speaker 1: got home kind of late, and then I remember it, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: dang Elimination Chambers on.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Dog, I turned on the TV.
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  Speaker 1: As soon as I turned the TV on, I see
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  Speaker 1: John Cena with coachy head under his neck. Bro. Literally
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  Speaker 1: right at that moment I turned it on, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: And my wife was like what what happened? And broke.
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  Speaker 1: She don't even care about wrestling at all, Like she'll
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  Speaker 1: watch when I watch, and she has certain people that
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  Speaker 1: she does rock with, you know what I mean, Like
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  Speaker 1: when the Rock is on, she'll watch. She thinks he's
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  Speaker 1: funny and stuff. But bro, when she came out and
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  Speaker 1: seen like, dang, John Cena is a bad guy, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it was so crazy.
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  Speaker 3: That's his first time he turned here.
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  Speaker 1: Since since he's been like that character, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Because like when he first debuted, he was
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  Speaker 1: like a Vanilla ice type dude and the and he
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  Speaker 1: was a bad guy he was. He was a bad
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  Speaker 1: guy when he first debuted, when he started with the
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  Speaker 1: rapping and stuff, like he was basically like a Malibu's
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  Speaker 1: Most Wanted rip.
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  Speaker 3: Off because he was freestyling them.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So BRO, just seeing that was kind of crazy because
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  Speaker 1: like taking out the wrestling side of it, BRO, Like
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  Speaker 1: this dude is like a make a wish legend. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's done the most make of wishes out of
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  Speaker 1: any celebrity.
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  Speaker 2: Like, and it's not just like it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Just people requesting you, it's your willingness to do it, bro,
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  Speaker 1: because you're meeting kids that are under deathbeds. You're meeting
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  Speaker 1: kids that, like you know, Bro, more than likely this
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  Speaker 1: kid is not gonna make it. Bro, Like I'm here
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  Speaker 1: because this is like a like a last wish type thing.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. Like that's heavy. Bro, that's heavy.
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  Speaker 4: No, he had the kind of kid fans where the
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  Speaker 4: kids were crying like when he was walking out there,
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  Speaker 4: like those kids that admire that.
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  Speaker 1: Dude facts Bro, like he's Bro, he's like the biggest
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  Speaker 1: hero to so many kids. So to see him with
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  Speaker 1: the Rock and Travis, Yo, that was another part because
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  Speaker 1: like I said, Dog, I just turned it on like
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere, Like I literally turned it on where
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  Speaker 1: he had his foot on Cody Rose's head.
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  Speaker 2: Dog, So he got his foot on Cody rose head.
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  Speaker 1: The rock is next to him, and I see a
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  Speaker 1: dude leaning in the back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like, you know, it's Travis Scott, Like.
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  Speaker 1: Bro, is that I kind of thought it was because
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  Speaker 1: I know that he's been doing business. Yeah, I'm like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: is that Travis Scott? And then they keep showing it
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  Speaker 1: and it's Travis Scott.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. He's walking around.
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  Speaker 3: And he kicks kicks the crap out of him too.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. He slapped the fire out of Cody Rose.
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  Speaker 1: Bro. There's an article that came out today that said
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  Speaker 1: obviously he had like a black eye because you know,
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  Speaker 1: they hit him in the face or whatever. But supposedly
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  Speaker 1: he had like a busted ear drum from the slap
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  Speaker 1: that Travis Scott gave him, which bro.
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  Speaker 4: Because you know, Travis Scott don't know how to do
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  Speaker 4: them wrestling heads facts.
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  Speaker 2: He just he just got hyping.
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  Speaker 1: They just telling people like that, just lay it in
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  Speaker 1: because it's like, you can't.
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  Speaker 2: Don't do it fake, because that's the worst thing you
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  Speaker 2: could do.
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  Speaker 1: Do it for real and apologize later, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: whenever Cody Rose is back, yeah, he gonna have one.
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  Speaker 2: For Travis Scott. Can't wait. That's that receipt bro.
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  Speaker 1: Wrestling they call it the receipt bro, Like whenever somebody
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  Speaker 1: does something to you, like where they messed up or
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  Speaker 1: they hurt you in a way they wasn't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: hurt you.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: They know that receipts coming where they're gonna get theirs too.
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  Speaker 4: And you know that I showed Speed Verres Travis Scott
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  Speaker 4: double tag team match with them, No man, all right
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  Speaker 4: about that because I show Speedy out there like kind
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  Speaker 4: of performing like actually as a wrestler. And Bad Bunny's
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  Speaker 4: done it too, But they said, like people who are
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  Speaker 4: not wrestlers to do it. I see, like I hope
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  Speaker 4: to see something like him, Travis Scott fighting someone who's
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  Speaker 4: not an actual wrestler, but someone who's in the wrestling
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  Speaker 4: game like him, and see it like a good fight
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah Travis Scott, I mean, not Travis Scott. Bad Bunny
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  Speaker 1: actually had a few good match his dog yo. So
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  Speaker 1: random as hell. But let's get into the best wrestlers
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  Speaker 1: that aren't wrestlers, right, because for a long time. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: that I had on my list with Shane.
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  Speaker 3: McMahon, like SHANEO. Mack.
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  Speaker 2: Like he was even on my.
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  Speaker 1: List of like favorite wrestlers period.
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  Speaker 2: Anytime he had a.
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  Speaker 1: Mac he anytime he had a match, he was insane.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He would go off the top of the stage.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, held Yeah, that elbow drop off folio off top
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  Speaker 4: of the cage.
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  Speaker 2: Broh.
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  Speaker 1: He'll go from one side of the ring to the
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  Speaker 1: other side, just jump. He'll jump from the ring to
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  Speaker 1: the announced table and drop an elbow on somebody. He
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  Speaker 1: jumped on the top of the cage. And not even
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  Speaker 1: just that, like on the top of the big screen TV,
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  Speaker 1: like the things that they used to come out of,
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  Speaker 1: like the wrestlers, like the little tunnel. He went to
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  Speaker 1: the top of that structure and jumped off of it.
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  Speaker 2: Bro That had to be like thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Forty feet bro He is in Saying Dog And then
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  Speaker 1: in the Vince doc they kind of talked about it.
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  Speaker 1: How it Yeah, he was just basically trying to get
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  Speaker 1: his dad to like be proud of him, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, Like to show him that he was tough,
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  Speaker 1: showing him that he could he could hack.
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  Speaker 2: It, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: So it's kind of crazy, like the backstory to it.
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  Speaker 1: But Bro, you got Shane McMahon, you got Bad Bunny,
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  Speaker 1: Like those are two really good like wrestlers that aren't wrestlers,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I showed Speed didn't wrestle,
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  Speaker 1: but he was in that match, and Bro, he.
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  Speaker 2: Got clapped by bron breaker Dog.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even just even just taking a move like that,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy because I remember one time Machine Gun Kelly
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  Speaker 1: was on Monday Night Raw I think it was, and
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Owens power bombed him office like they were on
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  Speaker 1: the stage. And remember when Bubba Ray Dudley with.
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  Speaker 2: Power people off the stage.
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  Speaker 1: He did that to Machine Gun Kelly, bro like off
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  Speaker 1: the stage onto a table, like it was insane. Bro,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, damn Matt respect because he really took
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  Speaker 1: that like like a I think.
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  Speaker 4: They're taking that, they're taking the grasp of that more
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  Speaker 4: because they're bringing in fans of people who aren't wrestlers,
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  Speaker 4: because like I remember when Floyd Mayweather was out there
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  Speaker 4: and he slapped the shit at the Big Show YEP
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  Speaker 4: and the same thing, and that was a real hit.
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  Speaker 3: He really hit him.
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  Speaker 2: With a hook. Big Big Show.
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  Speaker 1: I heard Big Show talk about it, I think in
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  Speaker 1: a podcast with Stone Cold, and he basically said before
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  Speaker 1: they did that, he told Floyd like, hit me for real.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you hit me, go yeah, like cause.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, bro, once you hit me, I'm gonna see
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  Speaker 1: red and I don't know what I'm gonna do, so
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  Speaker 1: just make.
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  Speaker 3: Sure he ran out that real.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, if you you know, hit me for real.
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  Speaker 1: Break He told him break my nose because he's like,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, I know that boxers can break your nose,
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  Speaker 1: like they know how to do it. He's like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: just literally break my nose. But I'm telling you, once
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  Speaker 1: you hit me, you better slide.
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  Speaker 3: And he bounced.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: He hit him with that right hook and he said
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  Speaker 3: I'm out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, facts bro. That that's another crazy thing about wrestling.
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  Speaker 1: Dog Like you just you dude like Raymonds Stereo and
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  Speaker 1: you go into work and they're just like, yeah, today
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  Speaker 1: you're wrestling the big show.
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  Speaker 2: He's gonna grab you.
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  Speaker 1: Like. Remember, I don't know if you've seen this, but
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  Speaker 1: remember one time he was taking Raymonds Stereo out on
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  Speaker 1: the stretcher, bro, because he got his ass beat. They're
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  Speaker 1: taking him out on the stretcher and it's one of
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  Speaker 1: them like like ambulance stretchers where it's like just the
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  Speaker 1: flat board, you know what I mean, Like when they
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  Speaker 1: just carry you out. Bro, they put him on that stretcher,
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  Speaker 1: they start taking him out of the arena. Then Big
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  Speaker 1: Show comes grabs him on the stretcher. Dog, Like, he
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  Speaker 1: don't take him out of the stress, Bro, he strapped
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  Speaker 1: onto it. He grabs him like a baseball bat.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: It just hits him against the side of the ring, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: and Raymond Stereo just it.
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  Speaker 2: Just falls straight down. Dog, What the hell? Bro?
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  Speaker 1: Like It's like that's that's the thing about wrestling too, Bro,
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  Speaker 1: that you could say that it's determined, Bro, but you
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  Speaker 1: can't say it's fake.
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  Speaker 2: Fake. Dog.
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  Speaker 1: You take any take any of those hits, even onto
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  Speaker 1: a pillow, even onto a mattress, Bro, and it's gonna hurt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And that's like going back to elimination Chamber. And like
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  Speaker 4: I got a little more appreciation appreciation for the women,
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  Speaker 4: like liv Morgan showed her after because I saw her
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  Speaker 4: getting beat up and I was like, all right, like
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  Speaker 4: those chains aren't fake, those screens aren't fake. And she
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  Speaker 4: her whole entire body was plased just a quick thing.
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  Speaker 1: About elimination chamber. A lot of the wrestlers hate it
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  Speaker 1: because it hurts so much, but it doesn't make any sound,
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  Speaker 1: so they can't even like drama to dramaticize it, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And the people you can't really
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  Speaker 1: see well either, so it's like it's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: you're just getting beat up for no reason.
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  Speaker 4: But my bad continued, No, but that's it. It's like
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  Speaker 4: you're like, oh, you know, the women are wrestling, it's fake.
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  Speaker 4: But then they she posted her her selfie like in
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  Speaker 4: the bathroom and like she got smacked with Bella's yago
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  Speaker 4: Bella's hair and she had a.
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  Speaker 3: Slit on her thing and like her bro, she was
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  Speaker 3: black and on the front.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like they're really like the storyline that I remember,
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  Speaker 4: Like you said, wife, you don't don't care about it.
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  Speaker 4: You'll watch it when I watch it. And she's like,
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  Speaker 4: why do you watch his fake? I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: the storyline's fake, but they're getting the asses whoop. They're
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  Speaker 4: really taking his Like you go out there and you
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  Speaker 4: get your ass whoop and see how you feel the
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  Speaker 4: next day.
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  Speaker 1: Fact, Bro, wrestling is one of those things that when
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  Speaker 1: it's good, it is good.
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  Speaker 2: When it's bad, it's bad, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Like, there's certain things that you can only watch it
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  Speaker 1: when it's excellent, you know what I mean. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like a like figure skating or something.
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  Speaker 3: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: When you watch figure skating, bro, if it's not excellent
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  Speaker 1: top tier great, it's like no.
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  Speaker 3: But you can take that aspect.
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  Speaker 4: And in pro football, if you're watching the football game
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  Speaker 4: with two of the best teams in the league and
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  Speaker 4: the score is three zero a halftime, you're like, what
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  Speaker 4: am I watching?
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  Speaker 3: Why am I watching this?
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  Speaker 4: So you can take at any professional level, any sport,
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  Speaker 4: like if you're supposed to see people out there the
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  Speaker 4: ultimate peak level professionalism at their you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: at the most talented, if they're if they're not showing up,
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  Speaker 4: it's getting born to you.
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  Speaker 3: But I think I think.
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  Speaker 4: The WWE is really doing their thing with everything, the storylines,
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  Speaker 4: the aggression, the fighting, the performance, like everything is hitting
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  Speaker 4: right now. And that's why this John seen a heel turn.
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  Speaker 4: It's one of the biggest. They compared it to when
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  Speaker 4: Hogan turn, when the Hogan turn b That's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: Sina had a longer run than Hogan ever had Like
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: we think about it a certain way, but Seena's actual
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  Speaker 1: run like on time, like you talk about twenty years bro,
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  Speaker 1: Like Hogan was like here, there.
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  Speaker 4: He was, and that was when he when he lost
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  Speaker 4: his Sean in WE and he was doing it in WCW,
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: so he was like kind of hitting the reset button. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: and a later stage like Sena never lost it. He's
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  Speaker 4: just on his way out. He's like Lebron fortieth year.
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  Speaker 4: Now he's like, what am I going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Bruh?
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  Speaker 1: And then the it's not necessarily like a conspiracy theory
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  Speaker 1: because it's kind of obvious as well, but they're saying,
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  Speaker 1: basically the reason why this happened is because they're trying
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  Speaker 1: to position Cody Rhodes as the next John Cena to
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  Speaker 1: kind of carry the mantle. So it's kind of like
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  Speaker 1: John Cena's way of like doing him a favor on
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  Speaker 1: the way out, like let me pass this on to
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  Speaker 1: you because you're going to be the guy to carry it.
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  Speaker 1: So with that in mind, where do you see Cody
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  Speaker 1: Roads like longevity wise, just eye test, just comparing him
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  Speaker 1: to John Cena, Like where are you at with that?
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  Speaker 3: One thing?
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  Speaker 4: I like about Cody Rhodes is that even though he
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  Speaker 4: comes with like a dynasty of a family. You know,
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  Speaker 4: they got Dusty Rhodes, they got gold dust everything. He
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  Speaker 4: comes from a family of wrestlers. He's making a significant character,
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  Speaker 4: Like he's making significant name for himself. And every character
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: that's going to be great has to go through that turmoil.
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: They got to be turned on by someone big and honestly,
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  Speaker 4: someone big who had the same kind of career they
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  Speaker 4: want to have. So it's in line for that setting
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  Speaker 4: them up, just like Roman Rains. Roman Rains got turned
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  Speaker 4: on by his family, Like come on, the bloodline, turned
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  Speaker 4: on your own, you know what I'm saying. So it's
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  Speaker 4: lining up for the resurgence of Cody Rhodes and everything
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  Speaker 4: that he does from here on now is going to
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  Speaker 4: make sense why he's so great.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Cody Roads is a dope case because he's one
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  Speaker 1: of those guys that he ain't like how stuff was
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: going to WWE in the beginning, they try to kind
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: of give him like a gold dust junior type thing,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And he was like, nah, bro,
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  Speaker 1: this ain't it. He went out did his own thing
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  Speaker 1: on the Independence circuit and wrestling which is hard to do,
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  Speaker 1: but he did it in a way where he almost
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  Speaker 1: reinvented it. Really, like he did this thing where he
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: left WWE that nobody had done before where he publicly
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: posted a list in his handwriting, like just on his desk,
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  Speaker 1: like his hands the list that he wrote, and it
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  Speaker 1: was basically all the people that he wanted to wrestle
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  Speaker 1: that he couldn't wrestle because he was in WWE. So
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  Speaker 1: he dropped the list as soon as like he was
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  Speaker 1: able to start wrestling after he left WWE, and then
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  Speaker 1: he started wiping these names off the list, like he
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  Speaker 1: would go wrestle this person here, wrestle this person.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: There that was on the personal side, that was just on.
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  Speaker 1: His personal quest, like that's something that he wanted to
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: do when he left WW. Then he became part of
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: the group that created aw AW came from Cody Roads
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  Speaker 1: leaving WW.
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  Speaker 2: Like part of it was.
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  Speaker 1: Was the movement that he was making and the people
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  Speaker 1: he linked up with, which was like the young Bucks,
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  Speaker 1: Kenny Omega, like they were the guys on the Independence
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  Speaker 1: that were like the top dogs, the ones that were
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  Speaker 1: bringing in you know, twenty thousand dollars bookings and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that you know, they was getting paid real money
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: because wrestling is like anything else, Bro, the money's only
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  Speaker 1: in it for the top, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So they ended up making you know, being part of
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  Speaker 1: the group that started AW. He was there in the
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  Speaker 1: inception when they were actually like competing with WW. That's
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  Speaker 1: when he was there, and arguably once he left, that's
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  Speaker 1: when AW went down.
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  Speaker 2: Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Like, from what I hear, nobody's watching I don't. I
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: don't watch it period because it's like it's already too
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: much for me to watch WW.
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  Speaker 2: Bro. I'm not also about to be watching.
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  Speaker 3: A you know what I mean, like watching AFL.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, especially watching AW and seeing how terrible the quality
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: of the product is.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: Bro, It's just hard to watch. Bro, It's just super
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: hard to watch. You know.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: One thing for me about wrestling that WW was always
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: big on that a lot of people don't like, but
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: I like it. It is like WWE wants to have
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: big wrestlers that are that are strong and look like.
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  Speaker 2: Wrestlers ultimate warriors. I don't want to.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Watch wrestling and see a guy that looks like me, bro, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to feel like I could be out
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: there doing that, you know, what I'm saying, I watch
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: wrestling because it's like, Yo, these are the best wrestlers.
• 15:02
  Speaker 2: These are big dudes that.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: Are in the gym all day, men and women that
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: are like sacrifices training and going crazy to be out
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: there and taking this punishment. Bro, I don't want to
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: watching and see a dude, you know, with a little gut.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see somebody with flabby arms or
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: whatever because they don't work out, you know what I mean.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: It's like, Bro, this is like, this is a business, bro.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: Your body is Your business is visual thing too, Bro,
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: this is wrestling. This is all about the presentation for
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: you to come out here looking sloppy like that.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: Bro, you don't even care about your own career.
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: Bro, if you're going to be a professional wrestler, you
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: gotta look like a professional wrestler. That's why the reason
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: we were so like enamored by them because we look
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: at like, Yo, these dudes were like they look like
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: they just out there beating people up. Like the moves
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: they can do, like the finishing moves is like you
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: got to be that strong to perform them finish, you
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like you out here doing these
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: crazy ass moves looking like me, and like, Bro, you're
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: not doing anything like I could be in doing it.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: In facts, it's funny you said that because I've seen
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: recently Alex Luger interview that came out and he was
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: talking about I think he said, Dusty Rhodes gave him,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: gave him the name, the total package, and gave him
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: the finisher.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: The total torture rack in the backyard, and.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: He was saying, He's like, Bro, it was a great
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: finisher and it was perfect. He said, Dusty gave him
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: that finish because he was like this, because he had
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: a great physique. So you know, when you got somebody
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: up like this, it's your arms, your chest.
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: Yours look like nobody else could do that but facts.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: But he was even saying that he's like, Bro, it
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: was hard to do, was hard at hell to do,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: but it was perfect for my character and it worked.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: He's like, it was hard to get big people up
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: to do it, you know what I mean, Like, but
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: you know that that's the part of being a wrestler. Like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: it's not easy though.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: For sure, And that's why I think Cody Rose is
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: in a good way because he's fit, he has a persona,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: he has a style. I like how he took you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Dusty Rose American Dream turning the American Nightmare. Like it
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: just aligned so well for someone to continue a legacy. Yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I think it just aligned so well. And I know
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of people were mad at Roman Reign's rain,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like how much he won
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: and how much he kept it going and how much
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: he kept be in the main event at WrestleMania. But
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: he had that kind of thing. But I think I
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: think Corder Road has it better.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I think he has a better Yeah, he definitely has
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: a less forced character.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: He was more it makes more sense.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's more together.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I definitely feel like Roman Reigns was also like a
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: little bit a victim of Vince book Man because he
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: was there when Vince was on his way out and
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: vincemook Man's head was not all the way.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: There at all in the last like five ten years. Bro,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Like that's why people started watching wrestling. Bro. It wasn't
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: because
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: After a