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1011 - Pop and Bravo with Jolenta Greenberg (Hot Mess-Terpiece Theatre) · Pink Shade: Reality TV with Mary Payne

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Pink Shade. It's Mary Payne here.
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  Speaker 1: It's Pop and Bravos, so that means it's Thursday. I've
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  Speaker 1: got a great guest. I've got Jilina Greenberg here, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Gilina has a great new podcast. It's called Hot Mesterpiece
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  Speaker 1: Theater and can you guess.
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  Speaker 2: What it's about.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the ship we like to talk.
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  Speaker 2: About it sure is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to the show. I'm so glad to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. It's such a delight to
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: You're a very profession looking sound studio.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. Put up a few soundproofing panels.
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  Speaker 1: I damn some over here. I use it as like
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  Speaker 1: a bulgenborg.
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  Speaker 2: Really, Oh that's smart.
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  Speaker 3: I have a neighbor who's like, bedroom is behind my wall,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, gotta be a little polite.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a New York City gal? I am, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm always jealous of a New York City gal.
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  Speaker 3: It has its pros and its cons, like it's you know,
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  Speaker 3: really annoying to get groceries, but also you feel like
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  Speaker 3: you're at the center of the world, so like you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, a couple of years ago, I had a friend
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  Speaker 1: whose sister lives in New York and she lived at
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  Speaker 1: the top of this building in Midtown, like a two
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  Speaker 1: bedroom apartment with like a wrap around terrace. She's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my sister's going to be a town for a week.
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  Speaker 1: She's looking for somebody to stay there, just the water,
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  Speaker 1: the plants. I go, uh me, I'll do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I did. And my friend Ingrid came for a bit,
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  Speaker 1: my friend Emily came for a bit, my friend Mary came.
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  Speaker 2: For a bit.
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  Speaker 1: We just circled through. We're like, let us all do it.
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  Speaker 1: And I lived in New York for a week. And
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  Speaker 1: by the end of that week, I was like, nobody
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  Speaker 1: can tell me anything. I know it all. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: know nothing. Whenever I go to New York, I'm always
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  Speaker 1: like I'm that person on the street. But I do
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  Speaker 1: get to the side to look at my map, right,
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  Speaker 1: I stand to the side.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like the basic etiquette, which is also
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  Speaker 3: like you wouldn't do that anywhere, Like I wouldn't do
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  Speaker 3: that in California either if I was lost, just like
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  Speaker 3: park it in the middle of a sidewalk.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's what people in New York do. They stand
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of the side, but looking at their
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  Speaker 1: phones and you having to go around them, and as
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  Speaker 1: somebody who lives there imagine, it's super annoying.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I guess the rule is sort of like
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  Speaker 3: you're supposed to like get up, get up to the
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  Speaker 3: side of the sidewalk, like the street side, like go
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  Speaker 3: go hang out by like a newspaper kiosk thing, yes,
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  Speaker 3: and look stuff up.
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  Speaker 1: I just hug a wall. I just go back to
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  Speaker 1: go to an edge.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: I just hug a wall and let people go past me.
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  Speaker 1: Another thing that bothers me in New York is I
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  Speaker 1: see lots of people with baby carriages and they have
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  Speaker 1: them like into the crosswalk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, sort of it's sort of like a
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  Speaker 3: biker move, like it's what people on bikes do, like
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  Speaker 3: where it's like I'm raring to go.
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  Speaker 1: You know your baby's gonna get hit, but it's like you're.
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  Speaker 3: Raring to go with your with like your baby as
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  Speaker 3: the thing that's sticking into the street.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, well he's like that's an interesting move. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder how many babies get hit by not many, that's
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  Speaker 1: but I got to tell you that new thing that
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  Speaker 1: did in New York in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: Is they installed that little teeny tiny bike lane and
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  Speaker 1: if you step out, because you look both ways, there
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  Speaker 1: cars coming, you will get up, a biker will just
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  Speaker 1: run right over and keep right on going with the
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  Speaker 1: ruber eats order.
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  Speaker 3: Oh right, and you have to be way more cautious
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  Speaker 3: like those bikers, like they're not abiding by the lights
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  Speaker 3: the same way.
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  Speaker 2: The cars are.
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  Speaker 3: They're especially in those things on like a green way
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  Speaker 3: where they have sort of their own separate lane, like
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  Speaker 3: separate from the road even and it's like they are.
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  Speaker 3: It's vicious in there.
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  Speaker 1: It's scary. It's scary. Well that was New York Corner
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  Speaker 1: with Mary Payne and Gilnta. Okay, your new podcast. I
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about it because right before we came on,
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  Speaker 1: I was listening and so you have had several podcasts
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  Speaker 1: over the years with yourself and with Christen Meiser. So
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  Speaker 1: let's talk about those. So By the Book and How
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  Speaker 1: to Be Fine, we're two separate.
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  Speaker 3: Things, sort of like one kind of became the other. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So By the Book was was our first show. We
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  Speaker 3: started it back in like twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we.
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  Speaker 3: Did a sort of we called it like a reality
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  Speaker 3: show meets book club, where we would live by the
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  Speaker 3: rules of a self help book really strictly for two
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  Speaker 3: weeks at a time and sort of record ourselves and
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  Speaker 3: report back on whether or not the book lived up
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  Speaker 3: to its own hype.
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  Speaker 1: It's such a great idea. I remember listening to those
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  Speaker 1: episodes going, I couldn't do this. And who was the
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  Speaker 1: guy who did the book the Year of Living biblically
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  Speaker 1: or whatever? He followed the Bible exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I can't remember his name right now.
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  Speaker 1: Same idea, Yeah, same idea, same idea. Yeah, what was
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  Speaker 1: the hardest job?
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  Speaker 2: Was much harder?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? What was the hardest one that you from your opinion?
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  Speaker 1: What was the hardest one?
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  Speaker 2: You get the hardest ones? There were probably a couple.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely French Women don't get fat because I felt misled
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  Speaker 3: by because it's sort of marketed as like an intuitive
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  Speaker 3: eating like like just sort of like walk more, eat
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  Speaker 3: fresh butter, you know, but it has it has like
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  Speaker 3: a very strict diet at the beginning where for like
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  Speaker 3: a couple of days you're only supposed to eat leak soup,
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  Speaker 3: which is basically just a boil a leak and like
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  Speaker 3: it's the broth from it. And then if you're like
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  Speaker 3: feeling extra hungry, you can put a leak in it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh and yeah not a cracker, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: No, or like if you're you know, if you're really
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  Speaker 3: feeling hungry, you can like do like a doll up
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  Speaker 3: of olive oil on it. And you're supposed to do
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  Speaker 3: that for like two or three days to sort of
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  Speaker 3: like reset your body. And it's like, oh, so you're
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  Speaker 3: supposed to starve, Like that's awful.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh, I thought French women don't get fat. Was like
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  Speaker 1: you have red wine at lunch, right you want, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like eat your chocolate.
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  Speaker 3: But it was also like, first, like because you have
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  Speaker 3: bad American habits, like reset your body by like starving
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  Speaker 3: it for a couple.
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  Speaker 1: Of days, and did you do that?
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  Speaker 3: We did, And after we did it, we vowed to
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  Speaker 3: never do a weight loss book again because you know,
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  Speaker 3: it like triggered some old disordered eating habits and stuff
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  Speaker 3: and it just it just led to being unhealthy. But
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  Speaker 3: but I did, you know, cry once I started eating
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  Speaker 3: real food again because it tasted so good.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like the French have nailed it.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like if this is French living. I'm in.
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  Speaker 1: What's another one that you can remember that was harder?
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  Speaker 1: I'm crazy.
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  Speaker 3: The life changing magic of tidying up was hard if
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  Speaker 3: if you really live by it, like you end up
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  Speaker 3: getting rid of a lot of shit.
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  Speaker 2: There's still stuff. I'm like, why did I get rid
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  Speaker 2: of that? Like? What was I thinking?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never read that book. I think I've watched
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  Speaker 1: an episode or so of her show, yeah show, and
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  Speaker 1: I remember thinking like, okay, like I get it. And
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if I just panned this camera slightly either direction,
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  Speaker 1: you'd be horrified. Oh yeah, but right behind me looks
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  Speaker 1: pretty clean. But no, uh uh. I've got boxes of
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  Speaker 1: clothes and my main problem is closed. I buy too
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  Speaker 1: many clothes. Yeah, and then I try to sell them
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  Speaker 1: on Poshmark, and then they sit here because I'm trying
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  Speaker 1: to sell them. I mean, that's my biggest clutter. And
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  Speaker 1: if I could actually just clear my mind of it,
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  Speaker 1: maybe is there a section in her book, just a
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  Speaker 1: chapter about clothes or do I have to read the
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  Speaker 1: whole book?
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  Speaker 3: There is, but you kind of have to read the
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  Speaker 3: whole book, like it's part of like you're supposed to do,
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  Speaker 3: like a big like megap purge when you live by
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  Speaker 3: her advice because basically the only rule is like pick
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  Speaker 3: up every object in your house and if it sparks joy,
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  Speaker 3: keep it.
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  Speaker 2: But then you know it.
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  Speaker 3: Spark on at right, And then like I got on
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  Speaker 3: a roll of just like getting rid of everything and
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  Speaker 3: that I thought sparked a joy, but then it didn't
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  Speaker 3: in the end. In the end, I'm like, I wish
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  Speaker 3: I had like that chunky sterling Tiffany's necklace that I
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  Speaker 3: thought didn't spark joy. But like, yeah, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: donated to Housing Works, which is a great organization donating
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  Speaker 3: stuff there, but I was like, what was they thinking?
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  Speaker 1: All right, y'all, it's summer. I really love to have
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  Speaker 1: people over and I love to get out all of
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  Speaker 1: my fun serving dishes, and I also love a string
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  Speaker 1: light and a full barbecue vibe. I also love an
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  Speaker 1: outdoor game like croquet or cornhole. That would surprise you,
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: but I'm pretty good at cornhole. And guess what else?
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  Speaker 1: You can get all of that at my go to
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  Speaker 1: shop Wayfair. So for this beach house, I like to
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  Speaker 1: keep kind of a beach theme. I like things with
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  Speaker 1: like sharks and a nautical vibe, like you know navy blue.
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  Speaker 1: I got the cutest outdoor pillows from Wayfair, and I
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  Speaker 1: got a couple from my Adirondacks and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: bench cushions because you know, if you're sitting out there
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  Speaker 1: for a long time trying to get some sun, you
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  Speaker 1: gotta be comfortable. They're that outdoor material which is perfect,
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  Speaker 1: every home. Okay hmmm, because I do wish and I
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  Speaker 1: do have a home organizer gal that comes in every
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  Speaker 1: so often and I do feel great and she leaves right,
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  Speaker 1: but like she came in and did her pantry because
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  Speaker 1: we have this walk in pantry because you you know,
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  Speaker 1: adult teenage kids, and it's just a lot. It's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of and my husband just shoved stuff.
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  Speaker 2: A lot, yeah, a lot. It holds a lot.
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  Speaker 1: And then I go in there and it looks beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: I've got my clear baskets, they're labeled. Everything is great,
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  Speaker 1: and I will keep it like that. But the other
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  Speaker 1: people in my family are not on board.
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  Speaker 3: Right, That's the other hard part about it, where it's
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  Speaker 3: like my partner wasn't on board. He didn't get rid
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  Speaker 3: of anything, and he just got annoyed when I was like,
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  Speaker 3: we're supposed to keep like the dish soap under the
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  Speaker 3: sink now, nothing's supposed to be on the counters, Like
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  Speaker 3: I'm not doing that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, well yeah, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: read either of those books.
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  Speaker 2: Then No, Like.
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  Speaker 3: Beyond the Purge, there are lots of rules about like
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  Speaker 3: basically nothing should be out in the open, like your
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  Speaker 3: counters should be bear and it's like that can't happen here,
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  Speaker 3: Like I can't put my air fryer away like at
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  Speaker 3: my right or like I'm not going to use a
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  Speaker 3: shower caddie to go to my own shower and I
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  Speaker 3: keep the shampoo in there.
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  Speaker 1: So you're supposed to be like college dorm style pull
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  Speaker 1: out your caddy, yeah, like under your seat.
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  Speaker 2: From under your sink.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, yeah, okay, okay, well then I'm sorry. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry Maria Conda. But she probably has made so
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: much money that she could just buy a really big
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  Speaker 1: house and have all her shower caddies under all her sinks.
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  Speaker 3: And she's she's uh walked back some of her advice
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  Speaker 3: since having kids, And I bet, like it, it's impossible
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  Speaker 3: when you have like three year olds running around and
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  Speaker 3: older like.
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  Speaker 1: I bet, yeah, okay, wow, yeah, I remember buy the book.
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  Speaker 1: I listened to that quite a bit because I had
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  Speaker 1: my old podcast Paint in the Pod where I only
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  Speaker 1: interviewed podcasters, right, because I'm so obsessed with podcasts, And
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  Speaker 1: that's a really good one. Now, how to Be Fine?
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  Speaker 1: Did y'all talk about self.
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  Speaker 2: Help books on and how to Be Fine?
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  Speaker 3: We still talked about self help books, but we also
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  Speaker 3: we sort of basically we ended up writing a book
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  Speaker 3: about our experience on by the book that was called
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  Speaker 3: how to Be Fine. Yes, So then we changed the
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  Speaker 3: show name to How to Be Fine? And sort of
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  Speaker 3: expanded to just looking at different self help trends, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because living by books sort of limits you to only
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  Speaker 3: like things that have been written written about in book form,
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  Speaker 3: where it's like we wanted to talk about stuff like
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  Speaker 3: before it's a book sometimes and so that way, that way,
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: on that show, we just did more like sort of
• 12:38
  Speaker 3: investigative deep dives into like what is life coaching? What
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  Speaker 3: does it mean when someone says they're qualified? Like is
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  Speaker 3: that legit or you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I'd like to know the answer to that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean not really, there's not one sort of like
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  Speaker 3: governing body, like like you know, like there's the American
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  Speaker 3: Medical Association that like cockers have to answer to, and
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  Speaker 3: those those are the people setting the standards. It's like
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  Speaker 3: each each coaching company has its own rules and guidelines
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  Speaker 3: and so like if someone's certified, like you don't really
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  Speaker 3: know what they're certified in, and like you're not guaranteed
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna be ethical, Like it's just it's just hard
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  Speaker 3: to know.
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  Speaker 1: And so how to How to Be Fine is a
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  Speaker 1: book we could find.
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  Speaker 2: Is a book and a podcast?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, is a book and a podcast, And I
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  Speaker 1: imagine an audiobook as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it was an audiobook is an audiobook. It was
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  Speaker 3: a blast to record. It's like a really long podcast
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  Speaker 3: where we recap living by lots of the books that
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  Speaker 3: we've lived by.
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  Speaker 1: That sounds like the next time I have to drive
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  Speaker 1: to the beach by myself, which is coming up next week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm always looking for something like that, like a long
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  Speaker 1: form podcast or something a story to kind of keep
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: my brain not falling asleep. So I think how to
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  Speaker 1: Be Fine audiobook sounds like I've got all these credits
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  Speaker 1: on Audible. They just like send them to me right,
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  Speaker 1: Not because they're a sponsor or anything. It's just because
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, somewhere along with like Kendall or something.
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  Speaker 2: This you have prime or something, Yes, and I.
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  Speaker 1: Never use it, so I think that's what I'm gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: I've just used it. Read it. It's a fun one.
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  Speaker 3: We each like we we took turns writing chapters, so
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  Speaker 3: we each read different parts and then we read parts
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  Speaker 3: together like it was really fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, all right, now you're an author, as we're discussing,
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  Speaker 1: So you wrote how to Be Fine with Kristin another
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  Speaker 1: book that was All the Real Housewives, I wrote an
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  Speaker 1: e book.
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  Speaker 3: It was actually one of the assignments in a book
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  Speaker 3: we were living for. By the book, it was how
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: to write an e book in less than seven to
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  Speaker 3: fourteen days. So we each wrote an e book, but
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  Speaker 3: mine was called Modern Harpies. Why I loving the Real
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  Speaker 3: Housewives means your cultured af and in it I compare
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  Speaker 3: Real Housewives to different Greek goddesses because my grand theory
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  Speaker 3: is that, like we're just telling the same stories we've
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  Speaker 3: always been telling, Yeah, like throughout history, and it's like
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  Speaker 3: reality TV is no different. So like, if you think
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  Speaker 3: it's low brow or tacky, like, it just means you're
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  Speaker 3: not you're not seeing through to the.
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  Speaker 2: Story that we're really watching.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you know Gibson John's.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I'm just about to have him on my podcast soon, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I love Gibson. Yeah, And he has the shirt that
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: says hating reality TV doesn't make you smart exactly, And
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, if you hate reality TV, then what's
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  Speaker 1: your problem? You know, don't be so judgy and also
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: you don't look about My husband's a little judgie about it.
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  Speaker 1: He'll come through the room and make a rude comment
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  Speaker 1: until he sees somebody that he knows, like if he
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: sees Angela. Oakley's husband, Charles Oakley, was an NBAA. What's
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: that guy? I go, he's on this show? Huh, not
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: so weird now, So he's a little judgie about it,
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: but he does sort of come in with like a
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Genoadjasmine scene on ninety day and be like, what have
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  Speaker 1: these people been on this show for a year ago?
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  Speaker 2: My husband loves the Gino and Jasmine update.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I'm like, new show. Who is they're still on?
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: He's like, but she's with that guy and she's had
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: the baby. I go, they haven't had the baby yet
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: because that other season was don't try to make sense
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: The timeline is totally messed up.
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: Don't try to make sense of you know that she's
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: already had a baby with this guy and she's currently
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: not pregnant on this show, but she was pregnant on
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the show we saw four months ago. Don't that was
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: last resort? This is aha. He's like, so he's interested
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: enough to ask questions, right, totally, Yeah, but he's not
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: interested enough to pretend like it's cool.
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, my husband's the same way. He's uninterested. But
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: then like, you know he can't help, but always be
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: like that. Marisol's funny.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Is Marisol the best? I'm obsessed with Marisol.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I love her, and it's like I don't like share
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: her style isn't my style at all at all, but
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: like she's like I find her to be like the
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: best dress. Like she's just like firing on all cylinders
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: right now.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Every time she talks, I'm like, what's she gonna say,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: what's she gonna say? So warm? Give me just a
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: whole show. And I've said this a million times. People
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: are like, you've already said this, but you don't know
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: this about me. I never watched Real Housewives in Miami
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just because it was one of the ones I didn't
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: jump on and then it was gone, and man, who cares.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: But when I saw Marisol and Alexia on Real Housewives
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Girls Trip, oh yeah, I go, well, now I
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: have to watch it like I have extra time. And
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I just started from the beginning and watched the whole thing.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It was such a good such a
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: good series, such a good.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Series, such a good series. Okay, so on your new podcast, yes,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: explain to me first of all, hot Mester Piece theater.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: How come nobody's ever come up with that before?
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I was googling it for like hours, being like, no
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: one did this yet, Like someone did a live show
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: hot Mester Piece that was like a one woman show.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, what a great I love when somebody comes
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: up with the grid. I don't have that chip in
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: my brain that can come up with catchy puns or
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: good titles ever, So whenever anybody comes up with something,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: I'm like, will, they must be a genius because I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: could have never come up with that.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I used to work in news and my husband still does,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: and there's lots of that kind of wordplay bandied about,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: like they're always like pitching titles at each other. So
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I feel like I hopefully absorbed some of it.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I will say that. This week on The Valley Reunion, Andy,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: before every introduction of every segment, he was doing that
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and I was.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Like, stop it was it was a little much.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: When Jason took off his ring, this was a ring
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: toss game. Janet didn't want to play it. David Busters,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: You're like, stop.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Too many references.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: No, it's you're wasting our time. So all right, so
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: tell me on Hot Masterpiece theater. You guys are talking
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: about one scene. You're not just doing like we're going
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to talk about a whole season. You're doing one scene
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: at a time.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me, tell me everything, So hot Mesterpiece Theater.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: I'm basically expanding on expanding on my ebook with the
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: theory that like what we're watching is is art, is
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: like real storytelling. And so I have on guests and
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: we sort of do a deep dive into a favorite
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: scene of theirs. It can be from any reality show,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: lots of Real Housewives so far, lots of Love is
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: blind people people love, and we just sort of do
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: a deep dive in like the lore behind the scene,
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the public's reaction to the scene, what was going on
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: like in society when the scene was super popular? Okay,
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And also there are episodes I do by myself where
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: I do deep dives just into different like storytelling techniques
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and archetypes, like character types that we come across in
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: reality TV. So like the one I have coming up
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: is about matriarchs and like how that showed up? How
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: like that's like the force in the Real Housewives of
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: New Jersey, you.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Know, uh huh? And southern charm.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, Oh of course, Ms Patricia.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: And dare I say my top three reality show of
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: all time? Welcome to Platfell.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're totally right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Kim Plath, I mean Monster, right, Monster. I heard
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the episode you did with Chris Durosa. Now, yeah, Chris
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: is also a New York City person. I imagine the
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: two of you were just like in the room together, Kiki,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: But now I'm thinking probably you were apart.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: We were apart, Yeah, I think it.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: He came up with an episode and I don't know,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: it was a long time ago, but it was Tarma
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: and her son, her always troubling son Ryan bringing in
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: this new girl that he said he's going to marry.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: I think he did marry her right, and they.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Had that they got married and had a kid, and
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: then it got tumultuous pretty quickly.
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: Pretty dark. But it was great because I was listening
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: to it before we came on. And I always loved
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Chris just because of his background as a reality TV producer.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Always has such interesting takes, and it's so interesting that
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: he picked a Real Housewives scene. I don't know if
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: you picked it for him, Oh no, he picked it
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: because sometimes he won't necessarily go into housewives stuff, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: because he's in that world and he doesn't bit like
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: cheat himself in the foot I loved hearing you guys
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: just break down this one scene. And it's when Ryan,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: you know, the girl comes over and it's like, here's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: our wedding venue. Here's what my dress is gonna look like,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: and Tamor loses her mind's like you can't just plan
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: it without it. I was like, you are the mother
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: in law, You're not the mother of the bride, Like,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what are you doing right right?
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: I think? Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Basically it was like here and meet this girl I
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: met online and then and then it was like surprise,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: we're actually engaged and have a venue and like a
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: date set.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: So at the time that was so controversial to meet
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: somebody online happened.
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: They met through Instagram. Chris and I looked it up.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: DM had like just become a thing. So it was like,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: had they just started like DM sliding or.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Like, you know, was it just through comments?
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: So it was I could understand why Tamia was was rattled,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: but the way she handled it was just so like
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: cinematically beautiful. She she she runs, she runs to a cupboard,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: like right right, like I'd say, maybe five feet behind
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: where the family is all sitting at a table, and
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: just start screaming about.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Like fuck my life, oh my god.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: Just into the cupboard and everyone's just looking behind them
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: at her, and it's just this this amazing scene that
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: could be like could have been written by you know,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: Edward Alby, like who's afraid of Virginia Wolf's style?
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I do like how you know, stories repeat themselves. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: mean I'm you know, deep in the TLC world with
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: what I do. Oh cover Bravo as well, but right
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: on TLC. You know, there's this spin off, the Family Chantelle.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, of course, which of course.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Now is in our vernacular, like we say everything like
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I don't ever say on my show, like my husband Dave.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I'll say the husband Mary Payne, you know, like because
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you have to say that the mother, the mother, Shantell
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: the mother. So the family Chantelle was so Robo and Juliette.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Even at the end their last season together, when they're
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: breaking up after being together ten years, every episode title
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was a Romeo and juliet quote.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah when they do that, it's so excited.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: It's yeah, and it was it was totally this this
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: story of these these families. Yes, like pulling these kids
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: apart and them being too young to think anything through.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Wasn't a thing. But you're so right. There are so
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: there are if you really think about it, you know
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: ten stories in the world and they're just retold in
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: different ways, right you know. Oh my gosh, it's such
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: a great idea. So I hope that I will come
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: on your podcast.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I definitely want to have
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: you on. I would love to talk about anything that
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you consider a favorite because, like, you have such a
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: great knowledge.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I've got two vander Pump scenes in my brain,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: one particularly that I think would be epic to break down.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: But if I was forced to do a TLC one
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: because of my knowledge of TLC, I could come up
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: with everybody. It would it would take it. It would take
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: a little time.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, whatever whatever you want. But I haven't had
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: any vander Pump yet, so I'm the I won't.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Say what it is. Yeah, don't come on, I want
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: to ruin it. But it does involve my favorite people
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: in the world. Which favorite person in the world, which
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: is Stossi Schuer.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love stasy TV Gold I was so entertaining.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: So entertaining. I haven't watched anything she's done lately yet,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Still I just mess with her. Yeah, I love her OOTD.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: I love her travel style. It's like what Stassy wearing
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to the airport. I need to copy it?
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: What bag?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, she's twenty years younger than me. That's not weird.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: So okay, So what other shows are you watching right now?
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, you could give me Bravo.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: But besides Bravo, I'm watching one am I watching. I'm
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: watching a lot of TLC. I'm doing like ninety Day UK,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: which I guess is like HBO or something.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: No it's not. It's Discovery Plus, which I guess is
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: every Plus. Yeah, I want covering that.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I'm watching it on HBO.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: We're covering it. Don't you love the quick case of it?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Because I love how fast.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I always like run into the room and tell my husband.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: I'm like, if this were us, it would be five
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: episodes before we got here. Yeah, I don't care, but
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, but the pacing is so good.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: The pacing is I think. I think what we've heard
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: from UK listeners is they are like full hour, hour
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and a half episodes over there, but we get like
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: thirty two minutes, right, I think they really they're like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: didn't you see this? Didn't you see that? We're like, no,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: see this. Last season there was a guy that had
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: like a full like white supremacist tattoo in his arm,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: and every time he talked it was like very visual.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Is that why he was always blurred?
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I wondered about that, and they had undertaken up like
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: an or something, because it's like you also a blurred
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: if he had like a Coca Cola tattoo.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was, of course it was.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they had that. But in the UK they had
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: seen it a lot lot more, where we had just
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: seen it briefly and then the episode was down and
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: so we had to rely. But they the ninety to
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: day UK. You guys, Kimberly and I are covering it
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: on Prime. It is so good this season.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: It's really good. I'm loving it. Yeah.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Thoughts on Shorna after banging this young guy deciding at
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: age like forty something that she'll just become Mormon.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I've I've never seen anything like it. I've never seen
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: anyone seek out like this. Niche like American religion. Yeah, right, Yes,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: She's so bizarre to me where I'm like, how did
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: you find Mormonism?
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Like why? How?
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But don't you think if that day she happened to
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: walk by the Church of Scientology.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Right, I was like, was it just whoever whatever was
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: around that that did?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: It?
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: Like so interesting to me? And and I'm like I
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: feel like this might be like what's the deeper what's
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: the deeper thing going on?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Why? Why do you why does she.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Want to like essentially like cut things off with this guy?
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: Like is it actually because of religion or did she
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: find religion because it's a good reason to like put
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: pump the brakes, Like I don't know.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: She thinks they're getting married. I was like, he hasn't
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: called you in three weeks, I mean, call me crazy.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: But the camera was over so he was.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: After she He's like, bye, bye, I love you. I'm
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: never speaking to her again.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm done, I'm over it.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, give me my fifty dollars gift card and I'm
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: out of here. Oh man, okay, ninety dight UK. That's
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: a good and okay. Now Love is Blind UK started
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: today Wednesday, when we were recording this we dropped our
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: episodes of it. We pre record all. Every time Love
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: is Blind, we pre recorded all. So when you get
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: your Love is Blind episodes, you get our recaps. It's
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: a it's it's it's grueling. And that's why I didn't
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: get to watch this week because I was watching Love
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: is Blind. So if you haven't watched the new season
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: of Love is Blind, UK, gotta gotta watch it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: I have not. I am did you.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Watch the last season with Freddy Hot? No?
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: No, I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a virgin.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: You've never watched any Love is Blind?
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: No, I've watched Love is Blind US.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, all of it or just some you just dabbled, Okay,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So Love is Blind UK. I know they film it
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in Sweden because there's Love is Blind every country, by
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the way, right right, Just how much stomach do you
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: have for the subtitles? You know? For me it's zero?
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So Love is Blind UK. Last season there was a
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: guy on there named Freddie who was an undertaker of
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: a more tissue. Okay, and he's currently on Perfect Match,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: which I'm not watching, but everybody's like, you've got to see.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I'm like, he is the most attractive man to ever
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: be on television like top five.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm I gotta check that out as.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: You got to look up Freddy Love is Blind UK
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: so good looking. So I stayed the whole season. I
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't care. I just need to know
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: what Freddy's doing. He's on Perfect Match now, so that
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: shows you how it went for him. He was with
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a real b uch and he was just like, why
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: is she so mean to him? Like look at him?
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: So Love is Blind UK the second season that just started.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I will also recommend, and like I got my haircut
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: earlier today and my hairdresser was like, I've never watched
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Love is Blind any Love Is Blind? Because I feel
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: like I couldn't catch up. I go, oh, each season
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: is new, you don't have to.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Do right, right, Yeah, I need to know what happened
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Like you don't know anything. They explain it to you
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: right at the beginning, right, So I hopefully I've converted
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: several people, including you today too.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Oh, like I'm like doing that, like the second we
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: get off of here, the minute we're like I gotta
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: get I gotta get okay, and.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: What else are you watching on TLC?
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: What else am I watching, I'm watching, I'm watching all
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the ninety Days.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, I've got to have you on to talk about this.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: So I wait, what what one is currently? I like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: I forget what's even airing? Happily ever After.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Got HTA, which is the worst.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Happily ever After. I'm watching like Hunt for Love with
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Hunt for Love shit show?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about Hunt for Love? How how
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: do you feel about Rob?
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Rob is a mess? Be so hot? I mean, he's
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: the hottest mess.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: I kind of always have a soft spot for him,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: and I like feel like I shouldn't, but.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I do you feel bad about it? I know?
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I also just think it's hilarious that it's very clear that,
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: like some of the people brought onto that show thought
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: they were doing more of like a Love Island thing
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: and didn't realize They're like, oh, it seems like a
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: lot of these people know each other so like a history,
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I love that the other guests at
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: this like Love Hotel don't don't know what they're doing
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: or like what they're on.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so funny.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yes, I will say that on Between the Sheets The
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: After Show, Tiffany no no Elise, Elise was talking about
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: how they had a group chat for the singles everybody's single,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: but she means the people that weren't ninety eight people,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: and she got kicked out of that group chat, and
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: she said she didn't have a group chat because she's
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: not in the ninety day group chat either, because nobody
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: liked her. But she was saying, she goes. She said,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: it's so interesting to her that Jay asked Tiffany on
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: a date and then was so trying to kiss her
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and all that, you know, and being kind of like,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: she's like stop and list goes. It's so wild to
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: me because he every morning you would break up to
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: the group chat with him saying like, fuck these ninety
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: day people, this is our show, Like, don't give them
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: any attention, Like we date with on ourselves. And then
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: she was like and then I guess he wonted screen time,
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: so we had to take me out, you know. But
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: at least your point, they just got there and they
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: were like, wait, how do they know each other?
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Wait? This is a dating show for them, Like yeah.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do think the breakout. The breakout star
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: is of the singles is Elise cal and Carlow.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, Carlo is a dirty dog. It turned out.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was surprised.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I was upsetting Carlo.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: We were kind of he kind of like flipped on us.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: We're rooting for you, Carlo. I know three times I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: have had Tiffany on to talk to her, the last
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and then like I had to
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: cancel because I was sick. And then twice she's had
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: to cancel. Of course she was flying somewhere. Who are
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you flying to see?
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, where?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but hopefully before the end of the season. I'm
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: gonna get her on awesome. I will tell you that
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a bunch of US TLC podcasters were invited to a
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Hunt for Love premiere party in New York and they
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: were all there, none of the singles, but all the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: cast because we hadn't seen it. We hadn't seen one eppsite, right,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: so we would have known the singles anyway. Yeah, but
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Rob was there and I went up to him. I go, Rob, go, hey,
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I'm Mary Pann, like you blocked me. And he goes
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: and he goes, you must have said some shit. I
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: go no, I mean, well, I mean I probably did,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: but I was like, you didn't block her? Or him,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and they talk way worse than you. He goes, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: don't know, you just caught me on a bad Daggo
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: will you unblock me? He goes, probably not, but he
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: you would do anything, he said, just looking at I bet.
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say. If I saw those eyes in person,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: I would melt.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: It was it was I stood strong. My friend Amy,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: another fellow podcaster who has little miss recap, not so much.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: She melted immediately.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I imagine he's just like quite charming. He is,
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and so hot.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: It's hard to look at because it's like look away.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: But a bad person. Everybody a bad person. Just remember,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just remember a bad person was a.
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: Mad person and for a while you had to, like
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: you had to go outside and use this bathroom.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: He told us he wanted us to know that Sophie
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: had lived there for two months before they started filming,
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: so they just built that up for the show. She
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: was fine with it.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know if she was.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Definitely if I were younger, it's something I would have
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: pretended I was fine with for a little bit, but then.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: Snapping same, Yeah, she's like, now we're filming, can we
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: talk about how gross this.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: Day and we acknowledge that this sucks, like.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also that I think they were in a
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: terrible neighborhood in LA and she's like, and I'm scared
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom in the I you know, hey, okay,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: speaking to terrible people. Let's talk about the latest Valley reunion.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, he yaya?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Do you think Jesse is as bad as Jack's but
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: just smarter about hiding it?
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: I'm leaning towards that.
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: There there are times, like I know, Jackson is scary
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: and unhinged, but there are times where Jesse says something
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: with a restraint that also scares me. Yes, yeh, I'm like, oh,
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: he has so much hate and he's so calculating like
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: that that feels a little dangerous.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's a great point. He does
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: seem like he okay on this episode when he started
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: talking about at the end where his girlfriend showed up,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, that was fascinating. But it's really interesting
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: because basically she called and said, are you done filming?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Can I come over? Because she was at chateau.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: He likes, uh oh yeahs chateau always a.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Chateau, And because she was at chateau, and she wanted
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: to know if she could come over. I said, we
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: were done filming and she could come now, from my understanding,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: just from what I'm gleaning from the clues. When she
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: got there, there was a sign up that said hot set.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: If you enter this area, you could be on film, right,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: And I have to I'm not an expert, I'm not
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: in the industry, but I've seen these signs before.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, obvious you're entering a set, or like if you
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: go sit at this table.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: Pushment with cameras, you could be filmed right right, Yeah.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: She entered and then Jesse says, right when she walks in,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: they put a boom mic above our heads, and it
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: sounds to me like she lost her mind started yelling
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: at production and threatening legal action to production.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Right against like everyone.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which, so Andy says. Andy had been waiting I
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: think the whole time. Like, let's just get to the
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: end of episode three.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: He jumped on that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: He says to Jesse, like, this is what we heard happened,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and Jessic goes, well, right, when she walked in, they
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: put a boom mic in her face, and he goes, right.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: That's their job, doing their job. Their jobs to do.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he said she walked into she walked into an
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: all cast event hot set.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. People were still my like cameras were still rolling.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And so he says that to Jesse and Jessic goes, yeah,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: but he's trying to say, like, but she didn't want
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: to but she didn't want to film or whatever, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Andy goes, let me tell you what, if she walked
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in here right now, we would do the same thing.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Because these people are doing their job and she was
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: on a hot set. Do you understand?
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: And when he said that, I got chills. I was like,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: oh God.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: And the way Jesse was like yep.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: She's like, yes, Sir, I sure do. And when you
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: just looked over and Zach, it's.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Like, oh no, yeah, so good.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I've bet Jesse has been warned, right, Jesse,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: either that girlfriend is filming or she's not, and she's not. Oh,
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: we'll want to know her right, right? Threatening people?
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: And it's like and also I don't love that he
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: like basically gives his ex shit for like her boyfriend
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: showing up, and like, if he's gonna show up, at
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: least he's gonna like say what he does, so like
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: maybe he can get some publicity and sell some honey.
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: And it's like yeah, yeah, he's like acknowledging her job
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and like doing her a favor by like yeah, putting
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: a mic on and being like.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: You share your life, I'm part of your life.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Like and remember what he said about Aaron too. He
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: said something about, oh well, unlike your boyfriend who shows
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: up and gets paid and she goes, he has never
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: been paid because the ancillary hereacters don't get.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: Paid, right, yeah, if you're.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Not sitting on that couch, you're not getting paid. I mean,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: oh my god. It was so good, so the jacks
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of it all. So obviously he was do you think
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: okay that because it was said on camera and they
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: left it in because they could have cut it out,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that he pushed Brittany into the bushes because they she
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: said on camera, he broke these chares, he pushed this
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: table into my leg. We already knew all these bad things.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: But when they said on camera that he pushed her
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: into the bushes and there was ring coverage, was that
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the nail in the coffin or was it the once
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: again with the my show, my.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: Show, my show, Oh shoot, I don't know, two bad
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: things to cha. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: would like to say that, but like I would like
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: to think it's because like he was violent, and it's
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: like you can't you can't be violent against a co
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: worker or your wife. But like also like you know, yeah,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: that's you shouldn't be able to do that. So I'm
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: assuming it's I'm like assuming it's that. But also the
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: last time he did my show, My show, My show
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: was when he had to take a break, So so
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: like I was like history would say, like it could
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: just be the my show, My show again.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Vicky did that and also got.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Fired, right, Yeah, you're right, And.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: There is a third person that did it, but I
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: can never remember, but there's the third person that did it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: But it's not like Asa maybe or no, no, but
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: she would if she had sunity. Yeah, I don't know
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: if she's got it all firing up there to do that.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: What's so interesting about Teresa is anybody who's ever met
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: her in person, just like as a podcaster or a
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: person that's seen her in a meet and Greeter just
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: ran into her at the grocery store says she's so nice.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Right, and she seemed to like really make friends with
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: the women on like The Ultimate Girls Trip, Yeah, where
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: it was like it seems like take him out of
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: this like family fight context, she might be really messed.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I just listened to the two parts, and there's going
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: to be a third part on Bravo Docket about Tommy Manzo.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Oh and the the first case where Dina's husband before
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: he was her husband, was attacked in a pet Co
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: parking lot and then he had severe PTSD and everything
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: else because somebody just jumped out of a car and
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: ran at him and just beat him to a pulp. Right,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: And we haven't even gotten into the second case, where
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: they were, you know, bound in their own home.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Right where I say, where like someone broke in and
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: like and beat both of them, terrorize them.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, beat both of them. So it's everything those
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: girls do is so interesting because I'm like, okay, because
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: they're kind of like us. They're kind of snarking about it,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: but they're like, well legally yeah. Anyway, I just listened
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: to that two parter and I'm like, oh, give me
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: that third part.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Oh that's so interesting.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: God, what people, what bad bad people?
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just fully fully, they're talking about the mob and
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: the mafia and all that.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like this so straight like Godfather stuff, like.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Lots of soprano references. I guess they filmed a couple
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: of scenes at the sopranos at the Brownstone.
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: Oh did they didn't know that? Yeah?
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: That's cool, speaking of Okay, more Bravo gossip Denise Richards.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Oh, I feel so bad for her. I yeah, I
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: feel like she Like I wish she would do some
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: some introspection to to to like figure out why she
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: gravitates towards like such horrible men.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. She met Aaron, though he didn't seem like
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Was obviously not as bad as Charlie Sheen like.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Say, not as bad as Jack's. He's as like yeah,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: but he's really close to her dad where they had
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that whole show.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Right yeah.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: And so I'm just like, and I feel like she
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: does under like she seems to have like good family
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: values and like everything, but something about her is drawn
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: to these men who end up like being awful.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, awful. So the latest was like she had to
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: go over to his house, which violated the restraining order,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: but she had to go over there because he had
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: put down one of her dogs. Oh my gosh, she
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: went to the other dogs.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: It's horrible.
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now was it a medical reason whatever? She wasn't
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: consulted and was told that, yeah, you don't, oh consolidate
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: those homes. Too many townhouses and houses.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I know I was gonna say.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, a lot of stuff makes sense now, Like
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: when during during her show when it was like his
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: his mom is like his parents and sibling live in
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: our house and we live in these townhouses. It's like, oh,
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: because they were like taking over your life or your money.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Or now you can't get them out.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's like, oh, this was part of it
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: being messy, not like you're so quirky, like.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well listen more to come on that. Okay,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: So let's really quickly. I just want to get your
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the balley besides the Jacks. So, how do
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: you feel as a vander Pump Watcher? How do you
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: feel like Kristin the the the The re emergence of
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Kristin as a hero this season just made me so happy.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: I know, she's like our our phoenix. Oh my life
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: just went out.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: Our phoenix, our phoenix that rose from the ashes, Like
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you know, it's been it's been so nice.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Also, I feel like I relate to Kristin a lot.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, so I'm.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Just saying she's a couple of years older than me,
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: and and there are times where I, uh, I don't
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: handle myself in the best way when I'm real upset
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: about something and and have maybe had something to drink.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I like to think I've grown as well, like count
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: to therapy, but like I I can, I can relate
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: to to crazy Kristin in my in my darker periods,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: my younger, wilder period So I always it's just so
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: satisfying to watch her like grow up, like realize some
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: of this behavior is self sabotaging, yes, and you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: helping no one, but also like still be herself and
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: be a little messy and be like I'm gonna yell the.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Truth even when no one wants to talk about it, Like.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, I love it and I love it. On this
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: this episode, when she says what did she say, she
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: was like, listen, I'm known as somebody who like gets
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: to the bottom, Andy goes, that's what you're known for.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: It was so good she's like, yeah, I am. And
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I love how Luke would say something She's like, don't
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: shush me.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I was so like also I related
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: to that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she don't shush me. No, don't shush me. And
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: I did like how she was like in season three,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: can we just stop at this legal bullshit? You know?
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: I was like right and Jack so they're like, yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: bring back old school, like how it used to be,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: like Jack's not old not you no, no, no, no,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I did. I will say that. Seth Rogan was on
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live last night.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Huge fan and uh eight. He was like, so, I
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: guess you're not unhappy about you know, you're not sad
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: that Jackson is leaving. He goes no, He's like, this
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: guy's just been rewarded for this bad behavior. Because some
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: people really have opposite takes on that. They're like, I
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: think Jackson's stay because the show is his idea. I
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: was like, the show was my idea. I thought of it,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: like I mean, everybody thought about that.
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: I ever was like, we just need a show following them.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: They don't work in the rest of that anymore.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: All the old people and give us to rotate the
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: other ones like menudo or whatever, like what we're doing,
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I some people really have the
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: opposite take of like, oh, it's kind of sad because
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: he thought of it, and like, well, then he should
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: have been pushing his wife and being a kocad.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: I mean right, It's like then he shouldn't have been
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: like slowly demolishing his life.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Like what do you want us to do about that?
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: It's his fat And by the way, we all know
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: he'll be back.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Right and it's like this is a pause. We all
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: know it, Like you just think.
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: And dove because they're going to bring in Shorts and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: la la, and it'll be like, right, Schworts's neighbor, Jack's.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: Right, of course, you know, yeah, right of course because
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: they share a wall.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine Shorts is probably be like, please don't move.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Oh I felt bad. Fresh Wars was just like she's
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: just getting.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: His life together, I know, and Jackson's like, hey, I'm
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: gonna come be a mess right here.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Worts is like, don't jump over this plastic wall to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: get to my my balcony. I don't want you over here.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, let's see Janet Now Uh Keisha,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: my co host on this show, disagrees. She thinks Janet's
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: just gonna go nose dives straight next season. I go,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: I disagree. I think because she had such a bad
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: season historically, she'll be beloved next season.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that if you ever listened Dering
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: the Scandabll, Janet was on a lot of the podcast.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: She was, Oh she does podcast, Chris La LA's podcast,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: because she has been around for everything, would never been
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: on the show, and she was very interesting just as
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: a person that's now on the show. And so I
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: think Christa's right. I do think the minute she got
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: on TV she changed.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not I mean it seems like it.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like even yeah, and like even Jesse, who's like
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I'm tight with you, but like, yeah, you insert yourself
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: a lot and like ways then are unexpected, like I did.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Like how Jesse leaned over to Jason and goes, you
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: need to apologize for calling him a clown.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: That's funny. That was good.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: It's good because you know, if Jesse's got to tell
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: you you did something wrong, you need to really.
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you gotta really pause and think. But yeah,
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm not sure. I'm not sure if she's someone
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: like we love to hate like forever, or if she's
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: gonna make that turn. I kind of wondered if it
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: was gonna happen this season because I I was like,
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: she's had the baby.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Maybe she's like, ah, knows.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: What her personality is going to be like without as
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: many hormones. Maybe, like, I mean, I know there's still
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: lots of hormones after you have a baby, but you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: I was like, maybe, like, you know, maybe she'll be
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: a little more chill or something.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: But she wasn't.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like she got less chill when she
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: wasn't pregnant.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: I think she was starving because she lost like forty pounds.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I think she's just hungry.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: All the time.
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: I know, right, yeah, I'm so hungry. Miami. I did
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: not see this week, But tell me something great that happened.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I was too deep in the Love is Blind recaps
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: right right? What happened to Miami this week?
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Miami, Well, they like everyone's still trying to get Gerty
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: and excuse me. Everyone's trying to get Girty and Julia
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: to make up. Yes, and then Julia decides like we
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: should go to Spain because Alexia loves Spain and she's
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: all stressed out with this todd business of like will
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: they won't they? And then so then Stephanie the new
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: one is like great, I have like a private jet.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: It can take us from like one part of Spain
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: to the other, so we don't have to drive. Also,
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: it can take us to Spain. But for that long
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: of a trip, I can only take like a couple
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: of you guys. And so why just just to I
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: assume it's like a weight versus versus like gas mileage
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: thing of like they're going further, like it helps if
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: the plane is lighter.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know, because.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Remember Erica had two planes, like one that was for international.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: Right right, yeah, okay, So like I'm thinking it has
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: something to do with that she can only bring like
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: four women, and so I forget exactly who she picked,
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: but it's like it's gonna be it's Stephanie Julia, and then.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: She had she doesn't like Alexia.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say it was Stephanie and Julia, like
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: maybe I don't know if it was Gerdye or not.
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: I can't remember off the top of my head, but
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: like AA is always the main The main thing was
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: like basically she she told Marisol or no, she told
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: Alexia because like they weren't getting along, Like I offered
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: Marisol a play a place on the plane, but she
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: said like, no, I won't go without Alexia.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: So do you want the last spot?
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: And she's like, well, no, because I'm not going to
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: go without Marisol.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: She was trying to like split them up.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: And then and then so they go back to like
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: a group dinner and she's like, I'll take Audriana because
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: like I I don't know her very well. And Audrianna's
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: pissed because Julia was invited and Julia would never say like, oh,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: if Audriana's not going, I'm not going. Of course, not right,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: And she's like and so she's upset because like she's,
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: you know, Alexei and marisa'll have this beautiful close friendship.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: They'll never go anywhere without each other, like I wish
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: I had that.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: She used to have it with Julia, right, And.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: It's like and she thinks Julia should have spent like, oh, well,
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: if Alexia isn't coming, I'm not going, but no, hell yeah,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going on the private jet.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, to go to Spain.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: I think taking a private plane that far seems a little.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: Scared, right, And I was like, this is like, this
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: is just to be messy, this is just to cause
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: cause chaos amongst the women and like pick pick teams.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: Basically the New Girl. Every everything I've seen is like
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: that house that she was showing with her birken wall
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. My house is like way into foreclosure, right.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's in foreclosure.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: It seems like a lot of his properties like aren't
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: doing hot or he's not his business isn't doing hot.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: It's true housewives fashion. I mean it's all a facade,
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: all smoke and mirrors. Now for OC this week, I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: did get a chance to watch and people really really
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: you know and just you know, speaking of you, like
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: your show when you had the thing with Tarmra and
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you and Chris were talking. I I I might be
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: one of the few people who's like, I don't mind Tamra.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I think she's good on the show right to bother me.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know her.
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I feel similarly like I just feel like so comfortable
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: with her, even though she makes me uncomfortable with the
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: things she does sometimes.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, comfortable.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: We're just we're with her. We've been with her, right, yeah,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: sort of like Vicky, like we're with her, we've been
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: with her, right.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: It's fun and like sensitized to how shitty she is.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: Like we're also very desensitized to the new faces that
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: show up on our screen. We get used to them
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: really quickly, like really quickly. You'd be like when you
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: first see something, you're like, whoa, like larsa bibbin, whoa
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: she looks so different and you're like, eh, she looked
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: that different.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: It all, it all sort of mashes together when you
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: when you really look at it.
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like Gretchen literally looks like an Instagram filter,
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: Like how.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: I was like, how does she walk around looking like
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: a little smudged?
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: Like I love it?
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Just yeah, like we were saying before we started, like
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: we just need like a little bas lane on the Yeah,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: how does she look like that?
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I have no idea?
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Magic, We need to get ready with me video from
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: her right, and she shows us what products.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: She's setting spray or you're like primer or something, because
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: it's like.
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody this week, and I heard about this through
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: watchfood Crappins put out. You guys, go and listen to
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: the Crappin's recap to get this exact information. But somebody
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: put out a list of all of the problematic post
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: that Gretchen has liked this year, like not fifteen.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Years ago, yesterday, yeah, yeah, and they're all very much
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: like homosexuality equals pedophilia, you know, like just anti anti gay,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: anti trans, like very maga.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: But it's not even it's not even like anti gay,
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: it's it's it's.
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: It's like damaging gay like it's it's.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Like it's like if you're homosexual, that means you're a pedophile.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: It's like yeah, like lad propaganda, like.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: And it's so upsetting. And I will tell you that
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: this week on Crapus. I was listening earlier today and
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: that's the whole thing is Like before they started, Ben
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: was telling Ronnie about it because he was like, I
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: know you probably liked gretching this episode. I don't want
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to get too far down the story before I tell
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: you what happened. And so every single thing than after
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: that that they would say about Gretchen and he'd be like, God,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: I love that she's taken Tamper down, but ooh.
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's frustrated.
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: It really like messes with watching it because they're like, oh,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: this is satisfying, but also she's so shitty and bad
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: for society.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: She's actually maybe she's a bad person. Oh, I mean,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: it's not like we didn't know it.
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: Right, right, And it's like with Orange County, we should
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: expect like the majority of them might lean right, yeah,
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: like it's a privative area, but like to be so
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: aggressively like spreading misinformation about it, Like it's like, hey, yeah, yeah.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: It's interesting you said that. So it's like it's one
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: thing to like lean right and be a Republican. Find
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: everybody has their own opinions, and most people in my
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: family are and I am different, and that's okay, like
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: everybody we can all just get along. But it's so
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: interesting that you said that. But so, my husband is
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: a lobbyist here in DC. He works for a company.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: He's not the for higher kind. He's working the same
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: company for I don't know, thirty years, so we're certain
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: energy company. And he was talking today about a guy
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: he knows, and I was like, how is this just
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: guy that's been in our zeitgeist for all these years.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And he was talking about how he's meeting him for lunch,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: and I go, what did you ever even get to know?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: How did you ever get to know him? Because he's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: like a big Republican lobbyist and my husband's very in
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the middle. And he goes, uh, oh, well, this was
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: back in the day when I first met him, when
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I worked for this Democratic congressman. He worked for a
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Republican congressman. But that was back in the day when
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: we all just hung around together, leaned against the wall
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: and talked shit about everybody. Basically, you know, as the lobbyist,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: we're all just like, I'm going to go to that
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: office and that office Democrat. Was it so separated, right, right,
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: he goes, And that's how we got to be good friends.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: And we're just like still good friends, even though we're
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of on different sides of the aisle.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: We agree on a lot of the same issues in
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: the energy policy. I was like, it's so interesting, right,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah. He gues, I got so many
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: of those guys that we all just look back at it,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: we see it now how it is now, and it's
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: so divided, right, right, he goes, you feel like he goes,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: he goes, and in that weird that you just asked me, like,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: you know, he goes ten years ago, would you have
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: asked me like A, You're.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Like surpright and you're like whoa, Like how did you Yeah? Yeah,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: how do you even this guy connect?
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, and he goes ten years ago? You probably wouldn't.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: I go, no, I wouldn't thought anything about it. But
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: now everything is so divided totally.
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And it's so interesting you say that because when you
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: see something like OC and you think, well, all these
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: women are probably like that. I just think, like you
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: look at Heather du Bro, who has.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: Right, and it's like Heather obviously isn't.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Isn't because she's got children on all forms of the
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: gay spectrum, you know. And my understanding is is that
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season this is all to
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: come to a head.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I was gonna say, like Tamra and in
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: an interview sort of said, it seems like it gets
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: dark and the the issue with like Gretchen liking hate
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: things that yes that aren't true, yes that you know,
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: going yeah, like it's gonna like come up and like,
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: you know, good on Heather for like being a mama.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Bear and like calling out calling out hate.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's really really interesting. So it's sort of
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: interesting how this particular show sort of like the one
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: season of Real House West of New York where they
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: were having you know, Carol Radswell and all that. Because
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: generally politics and what's happening in the world other than
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: COVID don't enter into our shows at all. It's like
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: it's its own bubble that doesn't change, you know, it's
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: like being in the movie with Jen Carrey shum shoe.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: But it's gonna be interesting because I mean, everybody's sort
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of heard. At the end of this season, it comes
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: to a head and it is regarding Heather, You're broke
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: kind of finding out Gretchen's hateful views.
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: Right yeah, and it's yeah, it's it's like a sign
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: of our times that like the political is becoming so
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 3: interpersonal that like it's gonna yeah, like it's gonna be
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: an issue between housewives like who live in and.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Like, yeah, very interesting. I think I don't know how
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: we got on this topic, but I yeah, I feel
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: I'm very happy for Gina and I know a lot
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: of people are Emily and Gina Boo. I'm like, Emily,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: she's fine. I don't know, so I have a strong opinion,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: but I just.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: Love I do too. I love her.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: I love her little silly accent that she plays into,
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: like and I'm I'm so like I feel happy for her,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Like it's great she's in a big enough house. She's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: not in her casita, Like she's worked her way up.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: She and Travis are like working through like his difficult stuff.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Like I think that situation is still bad.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: I feel so bad for them and for their kids
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: to be like uprooted or not see like a step
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 3: sibling for a long time, Like that just has.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: To be hard.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: And like she's handling she seems to be like handling
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: it well and like like growing with with her circumstances.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and good for her unless she's like you know,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: of course, I'm like, if I lived in the OC,
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: i'd buy a house from Gina, right.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, and according according to my husband who's from there,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: like that's what everyone does in Orange County. He's like, yeah,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: if I have a friend who's stayed in Orange County
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: there in real estate, Like it's what you do there.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Really, Well that's interesting.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, good for her.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: She's killing it in a difficult market.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: But was he always a real chor Travis, I don't know.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: I feel like he kind of was under the impression
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: they did it around the same time, or he became
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: a realtor like right before her, But I'm not sure.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Huh. Well, I don't know what's happening with his ex,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: but that just seems like such a toxic situation. I mean,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: she's told stories I've heard on podcast except where like
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: she'll come outside her house and that woman is like
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: across the street taking pictures of her.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like harasses them and like withholds the children,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: like which is so cruel to the kids.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Like it's so messed up.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: You're just like God, at some point you gotta let.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: It go right, and it's yeah, it just.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I am glad that I feel.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: Bad for her, but like also I'm like kind of
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: proud of her, Like I feel like we're watching her like,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: you know, tough it out and get through hard situations
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: and like, you know, like.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I liked how when Shannon got the DUI and everything.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: I liked how she really sat with Shannon and she
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: was like, she was like, but you didn't have a
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: drinking problem, and she goes, yes, I did shed a drink. Yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: I liked all of it, so listen again. My opinion
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: on Emily is like she's fine. You know, it's just
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: sort of like me, I don't care, like I feel
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: like we about Jen Padronti. She's fine, but I really like,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: I like too, Yeah, I kind of love Jen because
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: like I love like a naive baby. And I feel
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: like somehow, even though she around these people, she hasn't
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 3: quite like learned what their personalities are like yet, Like
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: she's still surprised that Tama's like shitting on her.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: They said this week they kept saying the fatty photo
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: of Oh, I.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: Was like, that's still it's like me on a good day.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: So fatty photo. This woman had like four kids, like
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: fatty photo. Oh my god, oh rough, she should just
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: go on her Instagram at posts like the fatty photo
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: and then what she looks like now and be like
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: suck it, you know, yeah, like I did this, you know.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: And then Katie, Oh, Katie, jury's out on Katie. Katie
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: also doesn't know how to play the game.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: I feel I feel bad for her, Like I hate
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: watching a group gang up on one person, especially if
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: that's the only person of.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Color on the cast.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, I.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: Just wish she would.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I just wish she would admit things when she got caught,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: because she'll like kind of she kind of like tell
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: the line with the life for a bit and then
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: like half admitt it. And it's like, girl, just come
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: clean when you get caught. It'll make things so much easier.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, just like I was new here, I didn't know.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I thought this is what we did. Yeah, I shouldn't
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: have done it, and then I shouldn't have showed it,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: you know. I just I'm trying to They always sy
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to fit in with this group, which means
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to be on the show, right.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Like I'm trying to stay relevant.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she could just like admit it. But it's
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: just like that, you know, heatherdbro And like I did
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  Speaker 1: not call the Papa Razzi on myself, Well, no you didn't,
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  Speaker 1: but your PR person did, right.
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  Speaker 2: It was like, yeah, you specifically didn't dial right.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, But like Katie just needs to be a little
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  Speaker 1: smarter because I do want her to stay.
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  Speaker 3: Right, And I like that she ruffles the heather's feathers,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 3: like without like lying when she does that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: so like, yeah, I like her.
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  Speaker 1: I think her story of being in a bad marriage
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  Speaker 1: and then the kids and back, I think that is
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  Speaker 1: relatable to a low totally.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I I think her showing you know, you can
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  Speaker 1: like get through these things. I think all that is
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: a good story that we're not getting to hear because
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: she just shut herself in the foot right away.
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  Speaker 3: She's yeah, this whole like did you call the blogger
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: stuff is like yeah, taking over.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: Which Kiki Monique is like she definitely called me right totally.
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  Speaker 3: It's like also just come clean where it's like you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 3: can even say like sorry, like I come from like
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: a sort of journalism like call other journalists background even
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: like I'd buy that as like a golf reporter, you know,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: it's like just be real, be like I thought I was.
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  Speaker 2: I thought I could play like both games. Realize I can.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: As a golf reporter, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But it's like it's like, because you know, I was
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: talking to my husband about this, he's a journalist, and
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: he's like he's like, I do kind of see where
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: she's coming from. If she's coming all from a journalists
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: lens of like sure, I'll like.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Kiki with with Kiki.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have a chat with these girls all sort
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: of a staffs a relationship with them, like like you
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: would as a journalist.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, but you're a real housewife in this instance.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, And I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Like, this is giving her a lot of grace. And
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: where she's coming from.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Is she calling another golf reporter to be like did
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: you hear.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: No, No, it's like she's seeking out like Bravo Gossipers.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well look.
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  Speaker 1: She made it onto a season two and that's a
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: big hurdle.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: Right, I was gonna say, yeah, she stayed relevant enough,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: ruffled the right feathers.
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  Speaker 1: I do love looking at her because she's so pretty.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Tony's so stylish, and I'm like I always enjoyed just
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: a little eye candy on my screen.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: Totally totally thing beautiful to look at.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, we are done, but I want you to tell
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  Speaker 1: everybody about your podcast again we talked about at the
• 1:06:48
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  Speaker 1: and tell me who's coming out. Yeah, and all that.
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  Speaker 2: We are Hot Masterpiece Theater. We do deep dives into
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  Speaker 1: Okay, as we were talking, I just came up with
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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• 1:07:57
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