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Paul Blair: Faith, Football, And The Battle For America · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic, off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Fierazzo.
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  Friends, I know I've been saying this a lot lately.
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  First of all, thank you for watching, listening, and sharing the podcast.
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  We've got another troublemaker for the Kingdom of God that, uh, special treat for you again
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  today, uh, Paul Blair, former NFL player, now pastor LibertyPastors.com, he's the senior
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  pastor at Fairview Baptist Church, Edmund Oklahoma, I've been there, great church, wonderful
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  people.
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  Liberty Pastors equip and train men of God to go back and equip and build up their congregation
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  so they can go out into the world and try to get some, uh, some sense going on, some
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  righteousness and, and influence of Christ into our culture that really needs it, because
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  it's in chaos.
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  But I want to bring in Paul Blair right now, brother, so good to see you.
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  Thanks for your time today.
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  David, it's always the pleasure to talk with you.
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  It's been too long, but I'm glad I can, uh, glad I can make it all fit today.
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  Thank you for having me on.
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  Yep, you're welcome.
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  Now, this is a new audience here since we talked last on a previous show.
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  So you played with the Chicago Bears, you were, uh, alignment and you were with, was it
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  Walter Payton and some of these guys?
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  And did you go to the Super Bowl?
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  No, that's a sore subject.
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  I went to Super Bowl in, uh, January of 86 and I was drafted in April of 86.
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  I was one of three rookies to make that defending world championship team.
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  Wow.
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  As you can see in the, in the background behind me, of course, you make man was one of my
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  teammates.
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  And, uh, the tragic thing is I was sitting here having to endure green Bay still being
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  alive a couple of weeks ago was back in night, or 1986.
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  We were playing green Bay as my rookie year at soldier field and Mac through an interception.
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  And green Bay had a, had a, a bug for a nose guard named Charles Martin and Charles Martin.
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  And that's the, the serious fact you Google search and you'll find it.
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  Well, it'll blow your mind.
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  Charles Martin came up behind Jimmy man, picked him up, bear hugged him, picked him up in
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  the air and then just drove his shoulder into the astroturf.
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  And that was the end of gym season.
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  And really the end of our chance to have a dynasty.
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  You know, man was out for the rest of the year.
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  We went 14 and two my rookie year that got beaten the first round of the playoffs because
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  we had Doug Flutey as a quarterback of all things for a period of time.
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  But yeah, it was the, it was the most, it was the cheapest of all cheap shots that I've
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  ever seen and had nothing to do with football.
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  Literally just came up behind him, bear hugged him, picked him up and drove him into the
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  air after turf.
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  And it, and it was basically the end of, of who knows how many promos gym would have gone
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  to have hadn't been for that and how many supermoles we had gone to.
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  But you're the one that brought this up, David.
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  I picked this gap.
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  I know I picked that a scab, Paul.
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  I'm sorry.
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  But I remember, I didn't remember that until you just brought that up and I'm going,
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  wow, that did happen.
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  But anyway, and Jim McMahon ended up backing up Brett Farve and Green Bay.
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  Yeah, Jim, he wound up going to San Diego and then finished up there in Green Bay.
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  Yeah, he got, and he still had some game and he, but Jim was a competitor.
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  I mean, he was really brilliant football line.
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  He was just a wild guy off the field, but he was a brilliant football player and had
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  the mentality of alignment.
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  I mean, he was like, uh, he was like Josh Allen for the bills.
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  I mean, he even throws his body around and wasn't afraid of contact.
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  So sadly, uh, sadly that, uh, people wonder, they look at the 85 bears and they say,
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  well, that was one of the greatest teams all time.
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  Well, we should have had a dynasty and, and sadly, the, the injury with Mac is the reason
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  we didn't.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, one of the things I want to talk about is football, even though I had you on as,
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  you know, Liberty Pastors, we wanted to mention the events coming up.
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  My pastor went to one a couple of years ago, phenomenal, uh, these training sessions.
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  He's boot camps for pastors to go home and just equip their congregations.
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  But I'm looking at coaches and NFL players that are praising the name of Jesus and glorifying
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  God.
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  And I'm really thankful.
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  I'm looking at this sports spectrum post that's got Ravens, Baltimore Ravens head coach John
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  Harbaugh sharing about servant type leadership that reflects Jesus.
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  And I know he's offending some people.
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  And then you got Jim Harbaugh and I want to just share this headline over at CBN News,
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  Michigan head coach Jim Harbaugh reveals many revival, 70 players baptized last season.
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  So Paul Blair, what's going on?
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  I mean, I'm thankful for these guys and, uh, I just would love to hear your take on
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  that.
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  Well, you know, it's exciting to see the name of Jesus proclaimed everywhere and to
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  see some of these phenomenal athletes.
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  And you know, you can tell when a guy is just, you know, saying, hey, thanks to the big guy
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  upstairs versus someone that really talks with knowledge of having a relationship with
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  Jesus.
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  And it's so encouraging because, you know, we live in a, a sports intoxicated world and
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  especially in America.
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  Yeah.
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  So for these young men that are growing up and in our world today and many of them, you
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  know, without a father in the homes, be able to have some real bold, strong, tough guy
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  men that have gentle, sensitive hearts and are surrendered to the Lord as a great evangelistic
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  tool and a great outreach to all of the youngsters growing up in our country.
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  So I'm thrilled.
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  I don't know John Harbaugh personally.
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  I've always liked the guy I like as demeanor.
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  Of course, Jim and I were teammates for two years when he was drafted out of Michigan.
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  But you know, that was eons ago.
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  That was 40 years ago.
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  So I haven't talked to him in ages.
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  But to hear those kind of testimonies, by frankly, this quarterback from the, the, the
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  Texans.
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  Yes.
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  CJ Stroud.
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  Very little about that young man prior to his rookie year, but he has seems to me an incredible
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  kid.
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  And of course, there's great passion and his love for Jesus that just bubbles out when
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  he's on, on cameras is great.
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  Yep.
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  I'm glad you brought that up because even after losing, he won one playoff game.
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  He glorified Jesus Christ, by the way, NBC, you know, censored that out the Jesus part.
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  And then after they lost the next game, CJ Stroud said, I just really want to praise my
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  Lord and save your Jesus Christ.
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  And he, you very rarely hear that in a loss, but that platform he's using his platform
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  to glorify God, Paul.
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  And you know what?
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  The name of Jesus is offensive to the lost world.
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  When you listen to all these sports guys or musicians or whatever, they talk about faith,
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  you know, we're people of faith.
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  What does that mean?
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  I mean, what does people of faith mean?
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  I mean, everybody has faith in something.
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  You know, atheists have faith that there is no God.
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  You know, so we're, we're all people of faith to some degree.
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  And of course, the journalists are happy to have you talk about Allah or any other, you
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  know, higher power or the man upstairs, but as soon as you bring up the name of Jesus,
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  you can just see that they get uncomfortable and they're ready to cut to a different camera.
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  So I love the fact that they're having, having it from so many different directions.
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  You know, you can't just get rid of Strauss.
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  You can't just get rid of Harbaugh.
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  I mean, there's so many of these great coaches and players that are, that are out there sharing
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  their testimony to the world.
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  So it's a phenomenal time for Christians.
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  Yeah.
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  We're just mentioning a few because I mean, the Harbaughs are in the headlines now.
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  Jim college, the national championship with Michigan.
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  Now he's going to be coaching San Diego, John Harbaugh is going to the NFC championship
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  game with the Ravens, but there are players and coaches across the country.
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  And discipleship can happen.
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  We think of sports as just entertainment, but we forget these are young men of God.
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  And some of them are very influential with their platforms.
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  Paul, I want to go back to the Philadelphia Eagles.
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  The year they won the Super Bowl.
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  I studied that year.
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  I was watching their chaplain make disciples.
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  I remember they had a game down in Jacksonville, Florida.
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  And in the hotel pool, they were baptizing players and converting young men.
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  And Nick Foles, who won the Super Bowl, went on to be a pastor.
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  There's Zach Erts and all these other guys, Tray Burton didn't end up with Chicago.
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  These were Christian men that were after that year, they were sent out, but it takes
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  a chaplain and it takes some leaders.
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  Go ahead and share your thoughts on that.
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  Well, I tell you what, it's such an encouragement to see this revival that seems to be taking
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  place because back in the day when I was playing, everybody would get up and just before
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  a kickoff, everybody was on their knees.
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  God help me, help me to win today, help us to win today, help me to play great today.
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  And then, immediately after the game was over, it's like, okay, God, you can take the
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  week off.
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  I'll see you again next Sunday for kickoff.
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  So there's that type of so-called faith and then there's what we're seeing with these
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  young men.
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  And I tell you what, to see the testimony of like Foles with what happened in Philadelphia.
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  And of course, there's a number, there was a number of strong believers on that team.
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  But seeing just the influence that one, one man who's bold and unapologetic and the
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  real deal, the amount of influence that one man can have in his work environment, whether
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  it be down at the office building or in the locker room is amazing.
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  And it also should just go to show us that it's all about the Holy Spirit.
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  We just need to be faithful in standing up for Jesus and everything that we do and it's
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  up to the Lord to light fires or not.
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  So it's just amazing to see the work that's being done and who God is using to advance
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  the work of the kingdom right now.
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  Amen, brother.
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  And we're going to talk about Liberty Pastors in a minute and just some of the things I
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  found on a page called Next Steps for Pastors.
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  I like some of these things.
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  We'll talk about some of the principles.
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  But before we do that, we're going to transition by just reading the verse that John Harbock
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  quoted after the game last week when they won going to the championship game.
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  He said, first Chronicles 29, 11, greatness, power, glory, victory and honor belong to
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  you because everything in heaven and earth belongs to you.
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  The kingdom belongs to you, Lord.
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  You are the head and ruler over everything.
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  And so Paul, that it sounds like that's a man who knows his position and knows who is
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  an authority, right?
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  Well, it's pretty impressive that you've got an American Christian that's actually looked
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  at the new to the Old Testament somewhere, you know, most, most American churches just
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  think it's a placeholder, you can get to the Gospels, but it's it's it was encouraging
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  to see that and that it was a verse and a second or Chronicles that then Harbock latched
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  on to you.
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  So that's, that's a good sign as well.
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  That's funny that you say that pretty good transition though because that's what you do
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  at Liberty Pastors.
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  It's the whole Bible from Genesis to Revelation.
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  The whole Council of God and you say the first point is to pastors, you must be committed
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  to preaching the whole gospel, not just the parts that people want to hear and some people
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  just are more comfortable with the New Testament and that's for a whole other story.
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  They avoid Bible prophecy, they avoid revelation.
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  But Paul, you've got an event coming up in Georgia.
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  I would love for you friends watching and listening to get this to your pastor and tell him
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  this is an opportunity to go and be fully equipped with an arsenal to bring back to your
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  home church.
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  Paul, share about what's happening at St. Simmons Island, Georgia, February 26th through
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  the 29th.
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  Well, David, you mentioned it and really what makes Liberty Pastors so different.
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  We've had groups for the last 50 years trying to awaken the pulpit, recognizing what kind
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  of an influence the body of Christ could have on our culture.
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  And you don't have to look far in the Bible to see what happens when there's an on fire
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  church.
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  You look and look at Acts and see the influence that that church and Ephesus had on their
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  community.
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  And then you consider that Ephesus was the headquarters of worship of the great Dionysus.
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  I mean, it was a tourist attraction and pagan small over the world coming there to worship
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  this pagan God and participate some of the demian sexual behavior that went along with
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  it.
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  Yet you have this body of Christ, these Christians that had such an impact on their culture
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  and their community that it wasn't long until the silversmith's guild was complaining
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  to the city council, saying we need to get rid of these Christians because they're
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  hurting business.
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  People are coming to the temple of Diana anymore.
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  People aren't buying the little silver shrines.
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  And we think that our faith shouldn't affect the culture, belonging, genuine faith can
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  do nothing but affect the culture.
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  The illustration a moment ago of the locker room in Philadelphia when you bring in one or
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  two on fire Christians and what their genuine testimony, how it affects the others in
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  the locker room.
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  You'll see the problem we have with pastors in American David is most pastors have been
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  taught in seminary that if they ever talk about something political or talk about the
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  realm of civil government that they're sinning, though, you know, he got these guys that are
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  well intentioned that they've never thought that through, but they think, oh, if I talk
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  about economics, should I talk about a biblical civil government that I'm sinning?
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  Well, it's actually the exact opposite of that.
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  And the Bible doesn't begin in end in John 3, God's Word begins in Genesis 1 and ends in
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  Revelation 22 and it's one author in one combined message.
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  So we teach pastors to think biblically about areas of life where they've been taught
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  not to think at all, much less to think biblically.
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  And we open up with a question we ask pastors what area of your life or what part of your
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  life is Jesus, not the Lord over?
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  And we tell them make that list.
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  And whatever that list is, those are the only subjects that you aren't allowed to speak
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  about in church, but we know that Jesus isn't just the Lord of Sunday morning.
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  We know he's supposed to be the Lord of all, though everything we do, as Paul said, we
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  should do to glorify God.
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  Don't the how we handle money should be different than how a lost person handles money.
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  How are homes looking function?
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  Our relationships that we have with our spouses, how we raise our children, our business ethics
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  as business owners, our integrity and honesty as employees, everything we do should be done
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  to the glory of God.
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  So that's what we introduce pastors to thinking about.
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  It's very simple.
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  Again, we ask that question, what areas of life is Jesus, not Lord over?
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  Because the only things you can't talk about in church immediately, they understand,
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  they get it, they recognize that we've been doped.
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  And then at that point, we begin to pour into them what does the Bible actually have to
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  say about the role of self-government when you compare it to self-government and church
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  government and family government.
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  So we teach them what the civil governing authority is supposed to do, and more importantly,
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  the civil governing authority is not supposed to do.
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  Then we teach them to start thinking biblically in the area of economics.
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  Quite frankly, one of the great sins of our generation is leaving bestitude, our children,
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  our grandchildren and our great grandchildren.
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  You know, the idea of having $34 trillion of debt, of spending someone else's money and
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  just handing it, putting it this burden on her kids, is as ungodly as anything that we're
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  doing, but you don't hear pastors talk about it because they've been taught not to talk
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  about it.
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  So we free these pastors up to recognize that we're not supposed to make church members,
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  we're not supposed to make converts, we're supposed to make disciples, we're supposed to
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  make followers of Jesus.
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  Well, where do we follow Jesus?
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  Just all the way to church on Sunday morning?
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  No, we should be following Jesus in everything that we do.
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  So what does the Bible have to say?
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  What is the Lord's commandments in us in raising our children and being a good husband
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  or being a good wife or being an honest business person or how we handle money or the realm
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  of civil government, all of this, the Bible deals with, but most pastors have been taught
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  to either ignore it or read over it until they can get to John 3, 16.
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  Well, John 3, 16 obviously is cornerstone without, without bending your knee and trusting
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  Christ, you're never born again.
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  Your new life doesn't begin, but that is just beginning.
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  Once you're a follower of Christ, then it's important to follow Christ.
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  Yes.
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  So that's where the discipleship comes in and why our camps are so different than everything
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  else and why there's own born.
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  Yes.
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  Impacted my life.
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  I've told you my testimony before.
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  Maybe I'll share a little bit.
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  When we come back from our break, we're with Paul Blair, LibertyPasters.com will be
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  So Paul Blair, I went to a LibertyPasters conference.
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  Actually two of them, one in Texas, one in Edmund, your hometown.
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  I was just so impressed, so touched.
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  But the first one I went to and I believe 2020, it really was a catalyst in my life.
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  I was feeling kind of like a lone ranger where I was and I think I was in a
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  associate pastor at a church at the time and just feeling like, man, where are the people
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  that want to live out this faith and make a difference in our culture and touch on these
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  controversial issues?
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  And then I go there and man, I was filled up.
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  And yeah, you're right.
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  It's the fire hose.
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  But I want to ask you one thing real quick.
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  It's only $99 for a pastor to go for three days or four days at a very nice resort and
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  get the meals all taken care of.
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  Please tell us how that works because when you go to the website, there are some pastors
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  that will look at it and not believe it.
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  Well, you can find everything on our website, LibertyPasters.com, LibertyPasters.org.
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  And of course, as you've said, our next one is going to be at, I guess, I see the St.
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  Simmons or St. Simons, but at the Seapolms Resort there, we've been told it's beautiful.
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  Of course, we've got affiliates that we work with in Georgia.
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  And we literally are going to basically be renting out this entire resort.
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  And it's for a number of reasons, you know, one reason it's for pastors to come and have
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  a little second honeymoon, give them a few days of R and R with their wives.
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  And we want them to develop relationships with other pastors in their state or community
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  or strengthen those relationships.
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  And just as you said, David, when you realize that you aren't the only one that's out there,
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  it's quite encouraging when you find that there are hundreds of pastors in your own state,
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  much less thousands across the country that recognize that something's wrong, that something
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  needs to be addressed and fixed, well, it's quite encouraging.
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  And then we pour in to them and teach them.
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  But this is pot made possible by, for example, Patriot mobile is one of our mealtime sponsors.
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  Charlie Kirk and turning point faith also works with us.
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  We've got mychurchfinder.com, you want to find a church as a biblical world, you can go
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  there.
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  They all work in sponsor meals, but most importantly, you know, the best friends I've
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  had in life, a guy by the name of Art Alley.
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  I met Art about 15 plus years ago at an event in Texas when we became immediate friends,
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  but Art's the founder and president of a mutual fund group called the Timothy Planner, the
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  Timothy or Timothy Partners.
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  And what they do is they allow Christians to invest in the market without investing in
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  companies that are anti-Christian.
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  You know, so you can invest, for example, like yourself, so service rather than using Verizon
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  or AT&T, which promotes abortion and promotes the LGBT agenda, you can work with Patriot
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  mobile and Glenn and all the great staff there.
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  And you can have great service and be supporting a Christian company that advocates kingdom
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  principles.
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  So Art Alley and Timothy Planner are the reasons that you can enjoy basically a $1,500
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  trip for $99, but in return, we ask you to give us 20 hours of your time and you've got
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  evenings to yourself.
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  You've got plenty of time to enjoy the facilities, but 20 hours of continuing education, and
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  I promise you, David, as you know, we've not had anybody.
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  I've not had one single person that came up after the fact and said, I wish I hadn't been
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  here.
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  It's amazing the testimonies that we've had.
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  Let me share one of our pastors down in Nueces County, they're in Texas.
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  They had a Soros appointed district attorney, and we had a group of pastors in Nueces County
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  that started working together.
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  Now, can you imagine a group of churches, even from different denominations that come
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  together as part of the body of Christ, and they started actively engaging their community
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  and working with one of our partners, CDF, or Citizens Defending Freedom, they wound
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  up challenging this Soros back district attorney and having him resigned from office because
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  of their effort.
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  So that's a win for the good guys, but here's where it gets even better.
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  It's not just about politics, it's about the glory of God in every facet of life.
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  One of the lieutenants for one of the crime families down there, of course, these Mexican
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  drug lords that are going back and forth across the border, got gloriously born again
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  in the middle of all this.
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  Next thing you know about half of his gang gets born again, and then some of the other
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  member gangs and these drug cartels that six months ago were purely on the side of Soros
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  and Satan, which by the way, I've never seen Soros and Satan in the same room at the same
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  time.
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  Maybe one in the same person, anyway, never mind, but see all these members of a drug cartel
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  come face to face with Jesus and accept Christ as their savior, that is a permanent change.
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  And it's just that kind of thing that we're looking for with Liberty Pastors.
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  Obviously politics is downstream of culture, so we want to we want to affect the whole
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  culture.
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  We're seeing people save.
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  And then what comes out of that is biblical thinking in every area of life, which results
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  in the blessings of Liberty that we have enjoyed here in our country.
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  Yes.
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  Amen.
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  You are trying to get pastors to go back and help their congregations influence culture
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  rather than what we've seen in the past decades, the culture influencing the church.
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  Paula, I just want to mention some of the people that are speaking there.
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  This next one, we've got Dr. Rick Scarborough, which I've talked to Alex Newman, one of our
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  colleagues here at Freedom Project, a Dr. Lee Merritt, Dan Fisher, Brigitte Gabriel,
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  Matt Stavre, Stefan Brodon, Dran Reese.
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  She was just on with us a month ago.
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  Rick Green, Dr. Cal Bisoner, my goodness, you've got some heavy hitters.
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  And so pastors are really going to be equipped even more than they've ever been.
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  But I want to go through just a couple more points because in what I pulled off your
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  website because we only have a few minutes left, I love this number five, truth and liberty
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  must be more important to you, pastor, than comfort and approval.
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  That's huge.
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  Let's just end with that one because a lot of pastors, we'd love to have the approval
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  of everybody.
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  If you're living for Christ, it's not going to happen.
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  And if you're preaching the whole council, go ahead, Paul.
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  Understand what we're facing now is not new.
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  You go back and look at Jeremiah.
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  And their Jeremiah was called to a very miserable ministry and he was standing up trying
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  to point his people to the truth and point his people back to God.
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  Well, in the same room and generally outnumbered you had, of course, the Bible just calls them
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  false prophets.
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  But you know, what were you think these guys were wearing signs that said, I'm a false
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  prophet.
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  Don't listen to me.
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  They're out here trying to persuade the king and persuade the people to follow the
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  path of evil.
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  And they claim to be speaking for God.
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  And then there's Jeremiah, who's actually speaking for God.
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  Well, you know, Jeremiah wasn't applauded.
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  He wasn't given a key to the city.
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  Right.
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  Frankly, they wanted to kill him.
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  They wanted to imprison him.
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  They hated him.
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  But we've got to recognize that when we stand up for Jesus, it's going to be very rare
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  that we're going to be standing with the majority.
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  But Jesus said that.
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  You know, there's a narrow road that leads to eternal life in a broad road that leads
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  to destruction.
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  But we've got to recognize that our calling is by Jesus and it's for Jesus.
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  Yes.
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  And if you think you're going to win man of the year by serving the Lord in ministry,
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  well, you better recognize it and ain't going to happen.
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  But one of these days our goal is to hear a well done, my good and faithful servant.
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  So we as pastors got to recognize that we're accountable to the Lord only.
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  We play an audience of one and that's Jesus.
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  Carson Wentz has a foundation called audience of one, by the way, A01.
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  We got to let go of the cruise ship mentality and our comfort.
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  And we got to get on the battleship.
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  We need brothers and arms.
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  And Paul, I know you're kindred spirit, brother.
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  That's why I love talking with you.
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  If you're an Edmund Oklahoma area, check out Fairview Baptist Church and we encourage
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  you to get this website to your pastor, LibertyPasters.com.
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  Paul Lord ruling sooner will be talking and God bless you in the next event.
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  Amen, David.
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  God bless you.
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  Thank you.
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  All right.
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  Great to see you.
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  All right, friends.
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  Thanks so much again for your support of the podcast and for sharing.
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  God bless you.
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  And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.