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The MaxSpeed Difference: How Two Friends Turned a Trackside Conversation into a Thriving HPDE Community · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  Grand Touring Motorsports started as a social group of car enthusiasts,
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  but we've expanded into all sorts of motorsports disciplines, and we
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  want to share our stories with you.
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  Years of racing, wrenching, and motorsports experience brings
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  together a top notch collection of knowledge and information
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  through our podcast, Brake Fix.
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  Hey everybody, Crew Chief Eric here.
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  I wanted to give you a heads up before we head into this episode that we did have
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  some technical issues with the audio.
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  We've done our best to make corrections so that it's easier to listen to,
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  but unfortunately, you know, there's always challenges with internet
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  connection, the different systems that people are using, the audio quality.
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  So please, by all means, sit back and enjoy this episode.
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  The content in it is amazing, but our apologies for the quality right up front.
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  Smaller run groups, less traffic, more quality track time.
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  Experience the MaxSpeed difference.
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  MaxSpeed Track Days delivers on those elements with great southeastern
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  venues, stellar customer service.
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  as well as the curriculum and coaching to enhance anyone's
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  high speed driving skills.
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  That's right, Brad.
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  And with us tonight is Phil Engels, president and CEO of Max Speed Trackdays,
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  along with his co founder, Brendan Blake, to explain how their program works.
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  And as always, I'm
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  your host, Brad, and I'm Eric.
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  So let's roll.
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  Welcome to the show.
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  Phil and Brendan.
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  Hey guys.
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  So let's get into it.
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  Tell us all about max speed, the who, the what, the where, the when people
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  want to know what it's all about.
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  So how did you guys get started?
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  Where'd the name come from?
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  Well, the name came well after the concept, put it to you that way.
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  In 2017, I had an injury and Brendan Blake is a physical therapist.
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  He owns a couple of practices here in North Georgia.
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  And ended up in his physical therapy office.
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  Having him work on my knee and I'm sitting there on the table.
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  He's working on things and he's got all these pictures of cars on
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  racetracks and way back in my youth.
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  I've not been on something with a motor and wheels since I was a child, but I
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  used to race motorcycles late teens, early twenties, and then I got into a
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  law enforcement career and that's not conducive to support a racing career.
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  So anyway, long story short, I ended up on his table.
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  I'm looking at all these cars and racetracks in his office.
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  And I said, Hey, Doc, is this you?
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  And he said, yeah, I said, do you race?
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  He says, no, I just do track days.
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  And I kind of vaguely remember doing some track days when I was
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  younger after I got out of racing.
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  I was like, okay, we got to talk.
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  Next thing you know, he invites me to a track day.
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  He says, look, me and my buddy's gonna be at a track, I think it
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  was a week away or two weeks away.
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  He said, come on out, it's at Road Atlanta, hang out, tell me what you think.
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  I showed up, and of course, having been in racing and involved in motorsports
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  back in the day, as soon as I showed up at the racetrack and the community and the
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  sights, the sounds, the smells, the fuel, the burning rubber, all of that stuff.
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  I go back home and my wife says, Hey, how was it?
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  What'd you think?
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  I said, shook my head.
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  I said, I'm screwed.
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  I'm going to have to buy a Miata and build a track.
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  Like most good wives.
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  She rolls her eyes at me.
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  And just says, okay, baby, whatever.
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  And walks away.
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  This is November of 2017.
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  Come Christmas.
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  She buys me a helmet and racing gloves.
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  And he says, Hey, why don't you be happy?
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  Go do what you got to do by January of 2018.
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  I had a Miata by March or April of 2018.
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  I went to my first track night in America at AM.
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  I've just dove in headfirst.
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  I went and did a few more track days.
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  And then that summer, July or August 2018, I'm at Road Atlanta doing a track day.
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  Brendan is there with me, and he's up a group.
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  He's, he's an intermediate or something.
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  I'm an assistant instructor that morning.
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  A couple sessions, the instructor cut me loose, so.
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  That afternoon, the organizer allowed Brendan to pump down
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  in the novice, because we have basically identically prepared.
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  We just chased each other around the track.
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  It was probably the most fun I'd ever had.
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  And then that afternoon, we're sitting there in the paddock, feet propped up.
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  He said, what are you gonna do when you retire?
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  And I said, I have no idea.
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  And was legitimately thinking about starting a septic tank pumping company.
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  But you know what the joke is that right on that one.
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  So.
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  Anyway, he looks at me and he says, you ought to start a track day company.
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  And I made the move.
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  My wife did.
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  I rolled my eyes and I laughed and I was like, okay, whatever.
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  But I could not get the idea out of my head.
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  So
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  I see that much like Brad, Brendan is probably the same.
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  Silent partner in this and in a lot of cases,
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  I've been itching to tell like my version of the story.
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  I'm just waiting for just a break.
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  Well,
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  I
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  figured I'd
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  give you
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  that break.
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  So let's
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  hear
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  it.
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  So the way that the story goes is we're sitting, we're talking about the track
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  day and he mentions a septic idea.
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  And then I just had to take it and say, Phil, that's a crappy idea.
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  I mean, how's the next day?
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  So if you're passionate about something, you're rolling customer service,
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  organized events to where the person feels like they get a lot of bang for
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  their buck, and you appreciate the people who are spending money with
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  you, it's going to be a home run.
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  If we focus on trying to incorporate what some of the driving schools
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  teach us, Trying to incorporate it into an HPD event, then it only
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  makes sense to try and bring up a quality, like, company out of this.
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  It can't grow into a space just to offer some more people time on track.
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  And the idea just birthed out, and it's been on fire.
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  Wrote a business plan, put it all together, had an idea of how many
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  track days we'd do in year one, two.
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  Three and so technically this was a concept two and a half years ago.
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  So I started doing some research and did some due diligence and, and, and just, you
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  know, looking at what all was involved.
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  Is it viable?
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  Can I make it happen?
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  Running a track date company supplement.
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  my retirement income was longer.
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  About a month in L.
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  S.
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  C.
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  Was formed.
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  I've out that you're very close guests of the show.
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  You'r Peters from H.
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  P.
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  D.
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  E.
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  J a little bit of credit fo this madness.
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  I was gonna end of this thing.
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  I won't It's to experience every type of track day that's out there.
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  I just passed ideas off of him.
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  I'm like, Hey, what do you like about this group?
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  What do you not like about that group?
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  What makes you tick when you're on track?
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  Not just with Dave, but with, I tapped as many people as I could.
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  I spent a lot of time with the Ron Z of discovery parts in his trailer
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  at Rhode Atlanta, at NASA events and at other race events, his brain and
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  figuring out how can we make, The very best track day company, period.
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  The best one that we can make.
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  How can we do that?
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  We held our first event in August of 2019.
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  Within
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  one year, we were on the track.
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  And we held our January event this year at Roebling Road.
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  It just kind of exploded from there.
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  There was a lot of buzz in the community, social media took off.
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  Just last weekend, we hosted at Carolina Motorsports Park and
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  we sold out our first event.
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  Congratulations!
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  That's four events in for MaxSpeed and our first sold out event.
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  And based on what I'm seeing coming up April, we go back to Carolina
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  Motorsports Park in mid April.
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  It looks like it'll be sold out as well.
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  The name came from, I didn't want it to be a name, one of our names, anybody's name.
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  I just wanted it to be something that immediately when you heard the name, there
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  was no doubt about what was going on.
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  There was no such thing as maxretrackdays.
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  com.
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  So I thought I was lucky in landing that.
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  That's the genesis.
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  It's always funny that company names are often decided by what domain is available
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  compared to the names that we're used to here in the DMV max speed is going
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  to be new to a lot of our listeners and a lot of the people tuning in here for
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  the first time, you guys are probably one of the newest, if not the newest
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  HPDE facilitator on the East coast.
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  So what have you guys learned from the other groups you've been to?
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  And how did you turn that into quote unquote, the max speed difference?
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  As Brennan was saying, the, the customer service aspect, we do a
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  few things differently than other groups and you know, I know one
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  of the things that we do that I'm serious about is we limit attendance.
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  You can only have comfortably X amount of cars on any given track, and people feel
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  comfortable, make passing easy, don't have a whole lot of trains holding people
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  up because everybody's there to go fast.
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  Everybody wants to try to put down a good lap and, and see what they can do.
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  And you can't do it in traffic.
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  So number one, we limit attendance.
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  We simply just, we will not oversell a run group.
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  That's the smaller run groups, less traffic, more quality track time deal.
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  That's what you get when you come with us.
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  The customer service and hospitality aspect is the best
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  we can provide at all levels.
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  What I call touch points.
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  Any interaction that somebody has with MaxSpeedTrackDays, whether it's how
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  quickly and how professionally an email gets answered, or what happens from the
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  moment that they show up at the track to go to driver check in, how they're
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  greeted, how well we're organized.
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  That's I will say we're actually just a family business.
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  It's me, my wife, him, his wife, his daughter, behind the table,
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  taking care of our customers.
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  And we're going to treat our customers the very best we can.
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  One of the things that I loved when I first started going to track days,
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  And the thing I noticed when I went to visit and hung out is he had friends
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  that were driving, but there were plenty of people that weren't driving that
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  were just hanging out and everybody shooting the breeze, having a good time
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  talking about cars, walking around the paddock, that community and camaraderie
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  that is naturally interwoven into the car hobby and or racing or or
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  all of that in general is, Is great.
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  So, since it's a social hobby, we wanted to foster that at our events.
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  If you go to most events, there's all these little clicks around the paddock.
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  There's these little groups.
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  They get together as a Mustang club over there.
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  There's a Corvette club over there.
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  There's some Porsche guys over there or whatever.
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  We just got groups of friends.
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  What we wanted to do was bring all of those people together into 1 place.
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  So, in all of our events, We have a hospitality.
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  It does a couple of things for us as organizers to if anybody has an issue,
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  they don't handle it in the paddock.
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  They bring it to us.
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  We will then deal with it.
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  He he or I will go handle the situation or send 1 of our instructors to
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  handle the situation, but we want all the contact to come through us.
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  So we give them a central place to do that.
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  You make that place inviting and it has a woman's touch on it.
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  My wife is the 1 kind of decorates in there, but we literally roll out.
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  Open up tables have bun double burner coffee pot going for morning drivers
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  meeting with pastries out and, uh, snacks and refreshments all day long.
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  And that's just where we want people to come.
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  And that's tends to be what happens.
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  Everybody comes there and hangs out and shoots the breeze between their sessions.
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  So, that's 1 of the things where another thing that we do different and, uh, and
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  then Saturday evening, we have a social.
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  So we just got a couple of big coolers of beer and invite
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  everybody into and it's all it is.
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  It's complimentary.
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  That's part of the maximum difference.
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  Nobody pays for snacks and pastries and coffee and waters and coats and whatever.
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  It's all part of the experience and why you come to us
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  while you guys are down in Georgia.
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  Does that make road Atlanta your home track?
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  What do you call home
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  is in our backyard?
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  And I mean, literally right now.
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  If there were cars running on the track, we could open up our
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  shop door and you could hear him.
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  So our garage club is located less than a mile from road.
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  And of course, he's probably got more laps there simply because he lives
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  right around the corner as well.
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  We got our start at road because if you're a brand new track day
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  company, and you don't have any money.
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  You go where you can afford,
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  you go where you can afford to put on an event.
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  And, uh, so we, we went there.
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  That was our first one, not a moneymaker, but a good proof of concept.
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  We kind of knew going in, we weren't going to make any money off this.
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  And then it's, it's just, you know, let's see if we can make
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  it happen and do it safely and have everybody have a good time.
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  And so that was a great proof of concept.
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  We like to think that any track that we go to is going to be
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  our home track for the weekend.
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  We like to invite our friends and track day family to the event.
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  Just like you didn't invite your friends and family into your home.
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  Brendan having a lot more track experience than Phil has.
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  Do you have a favorite track?
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  Is there a track that, you know, you would go to time and time again, and
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  let's expand on that a little bit.
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  Is there a bucket list track that you want to go to?
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  I have a question.
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  With Road Atlanta being right here, there's a character to Road
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  Atlanta that's just purely exciting.
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  Every time you drive there, you're learning something new.
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  Every time you go, you're trying to accomplish something different.
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  And there's a smile that's just a little bit extra whenever
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  you've spent some time there.
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  Every track that I've gone to, it's now a challenge to try to improve our times.
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  And I'm sure that we're going to talk about the Apex Pro
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  here in just a little bit.
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  Every track that You and I want to talk to you.
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  There's some drooling that goes on.
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  There's something exciting about every corner.
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  There's something exciting about trying to learn something new.
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  At Road Atlanta, it's just exceptional.
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  It's funny, having been
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  on motorcycles at Road Atlanta when I was younger, and I talked to people that,
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  like, say, is there a bucket list track?
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  Or one that's their destination track.
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  They went from there and they always talk about it was kind of scary, all
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  the elevation and there's all this concrete and to me, I don't even
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  think about that because that's been the place that I've been on more
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  than any other track in my life.
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  I love it.
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  I mean, everything about that track makes me happy.
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  Like he said, we're competitive.
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  Imagine that people would go to the track and their cars are competitive.
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  Purposely as we built them over the past, or as I built mine and he's built,
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  he has them going, we've kept them as close as possible mechanically so that
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  when we put them on the track, we're testing who who's, who's better that day.
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  Yeah.
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  So basically if you're slow that day, it's on you.
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  It's not on the car.
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  So
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  it's always the car's fault.
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  Always, always, you know, you had slightly stupid
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  tires.
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  Yeah, he's always a little more tread than the other guy, right?
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  Maybe slower rolling resistance and all that, but you know, it's really
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  funny that everybody we've talked to so far that's from the South or from the
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  Southeast, you know, the bucket list tracks they talk about much to your
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  point about Road Atlanta being a bucket list for folks like us and we have gone
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  down there and we hope to return soon.
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  We always get the I really want to go to Watkins Glen and we're
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  like, Dude, I've been to walk in stud like a thousand times.
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  It's not that big of a
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  deal.
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  Because you're naive when you start a track day company, you think you're
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  going to get a whole lot of track time.
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  No, you're going to give a whole lot of people track time.
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  Honestly, our events Sunday afternoon, when people start packing up, and
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  then generally we get a couple of good sessions on Sunday afternoon.
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  That's kind of about it.
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  So we have to visit other people's events.
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  The things I told him early on, as I said, I would love for us to
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  be in a place at some point where we can pack up the trailers and
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  just take our cars to Laguna Seca.
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  I mean, make two week trip out of it and go drive out there.
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  There's there's so many tracks.
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  There's one up the Pacific Northwest.
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  I want to drive and of course.
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  Oh, yeah.
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  And
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  that's always a surprising 1.
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  I'm like.
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  Georgia to V.
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  I.
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  R.
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  Is it really that far?
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  I mean, it's not that
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  far.
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  Um, I don't just want to drive there.
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  I want to host there.
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  So, yeah,
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  but you know, going back to your point about hosting though, it's
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  kind of like the old saying, right?
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  The most miserable person at any party is the guy that's throwing it.
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  Something to be said about that.
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  Yeah.
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  I wanted to talk about your footprint.
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  So we've have heard a couple of the names of the tracks.
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  That you guys go, but like how far north do you go?
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  How far west?
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  How far south do you do anything in Florida?
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  What's max speed footprint for track days?
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  It's growing . Right now we've only hosted at Rowland Road and CMP.
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  Literally received the contract today for Road Atlanta, and I have.
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  And we're waiting dates and contracts from Barber Motorsports Park and National
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  Corvette Museum Motorsports Park.
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  There was a lot of interest at this last event because we had the racing
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  for ALS driver Scott Lloyd there.
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  He likes to run at the hour a lot and apparently a lot of people that
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  know him like to run at the hour.
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  So everybody says, Yeah, that's on the radar.
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  I hadn't reached out to him yet because I've been, I mean, literally, we got
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  back, we just unloaded my trailer this evening before starting this podcast.
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  So just got the car out of the trailer and back in the shop today.
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  I'm overwhelmed and excited and happy that we have, uh.
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  So
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  we talked about, you know, where you guys came from and humble
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  beginnings and all this and things are still have that new car smell.
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  So let's talk about your guys D.
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  E.
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  program and expectations that a new patron of max speed would expect
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  when they get there or even veterans from other organizations coming in.
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  What's it like at a max speed event?
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  We've learned from every event we put on.
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  Like I said early on, I will listen to anybody who has something to
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  tell me it has to do with the driver education industry, period.
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  I don't care who they are, what piece of input they have, I'll listen.
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  But we've learned through going to events, hosting events, and then some of
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  the connections in the industry, we've completely revamped our DE program from
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  what it was two and a half years ago.
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  Our DE program starts early with students receiving the Max Speed Novice Playbook.
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  And this is 2 to 3 weeks before an event.
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  The novice playbook, it's a short study guide.
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  It's just a few pages long, but it helps them prepare before they arrive at the
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  track and includes a knowledge check that they have to complete and turn in when
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  they come to their 1st classroom session.
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  It covers everything from vehicle, and safety flags, corner stations, safe
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  passing and point buys as well as a little bit about the tire contact patch.
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  And how that changes the inputs to the vehicle and writing that
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  and I didn't do it by myself.
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  I bounced that off of several people that I got connected with
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  through the instructor summit.
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  1 of them drew reigns over an apex probe.
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  Very helpful in helping me craft the novice playbook and the goal is.
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  To improve safety for everybody at the track when you think about showing up at
• 18:01
  a racetrack going through a half hour, 40 minute classroom session and now you're
• 18:06
  strapping into a car with an instructor to go however fast your car can go.
• 18:10
  It's overwhelming.
• 18:11
  There's a lot of information, a lot of new terms that they have to learn.
• 18:15
  And so sending them that information 2 weeks early and
• 18:18
  give them something to study.
• 18:19
  It brings them in well prepared and we found this out because I've
• 18:22
  totally revamped curriculum was just unveiled last weekend at CMV.
• 18:27
  And I had great feedback from instructors and students about the program.
• 18:31
  So that's where we begin with us.
• 18:33
  Like I said, it's heavily influenced and draws upon decades of knowledge brought
• 18:37
  together from the instructor summit and their new, it was just released the HB
• 18:42
  curriculum about a month ago, I guess.
• 18:44
  As soon as it was released, I started completely rewriting our knowledge group.
• 18:49
  Part of my law enforcement career, I've been teaching multiple
• 18:51
  disciplines since the mid 90s.
• 18:53
  Whether it's firearms, defensive tactics, driving, EVOC, emergency
• 18:57
  vehicle operations courses.
• 18:58
  So, I've been teaching adult students most of my adult life.
• 19:03
  Teaching driving is just a, you know, it's just a new lesson plan.
• 19:06
  Since you guys are owner operator, does that mean you're also the classroom
• 19:10
  instructors, as well as the CIs?
• 19:12
  Currently the classroom instructor, and I guess you would call me the CI as well.
• 19:17
  As a coordinator of our instructor cadre, I introduce the students to them.
• 19:20
  At that time, I do an e introduction between the students and
• 19:25
  instructors, the novice playbook.
• 19:27
  That way they can talk to their instructor for a couple weeks before they show up
• 19:30
  at the track, kind of get to know them.
• 19:32
  If there's personality conflicts that come out, we can get ahead of that and reassign
• 19:36
  somebody before they come to the track.
• 19:38
  One reason I act as our chief instructor and instructional instructor right now
• 19:41
  is because we haven't found somebody that can commit to our schedule yet.
• 19:44
  If I can find somebody that can commit to the MaxSpeed schedule, we can wrap their
• 19:48
  head around the whole customer service aspect that we're trying to provide.
• 19:52
  If it's the right person, then I will gladly give up that duty to somebody else
• 19:57
  that's been doing HP instruction longer.
• 19:59
  So I can go out and make the rounds through the paddock and be face
• 20:02
  to face with our customers more.
• 20:04
  Absolutely.
• 20:05
  You say you can have a sold out event and you limit the amount of
• 20:10
  people on track and the different run groups and everything.
• 20:12
  How many students do you usually have?
• 20:14
  And what's the student to instructor ratio?
• 20:16
  10 to 15 students is where I cap it at.
• 20:19
  And that's determined.
• 20:21
  A, on how many instructors I'm going to have, because for most DE groups,
• 20:25
  that's probably the hardest thing is to make sure that they can get a good
• 20:28
  cadre of instructors that will come to their events on a regular basis.
• 20:32
  We have a 1 to 1 student instructor ratio and generally 3 to 5 additional
• 20:37
  instructors that are just surplus.
• 20:40
  And so having a surplus is great because you inevitably need 1 that has to give
• 20:45
  somebody a check ride to advance or, or come to you and say, hey, this guy
• 20:49
  in that car did something super stupid in this turn or on that straight away.
• 20:54
  And then we have to go have that talk with somebody then to confirm
• 20:57
  whether or not it was safe or unsafe.
• 21:00
  We'll put an instruction to receive and then deal with whatever happens
• 21:04
  after that, whether it's a run group demotion or what have you.
• 21:07
  That's, you know, always a touchy subject, but.
• 21:09
  It has happened in our events and at the end of the weekend, the person
• 21:13
  that got demoted was actually thanking us for giving him an instructor
• 21:17
  and making his weekend more fun.
• 21:19
  So if we can accomplish that demoting somebody, then
• 21:23
  we're pretty happy about it.
• 21:24
  And he became a safer driver.
• 21:26
  Yes, absolutely.
• 21:29
  That's going to lead me into my next question about the progression model.
• 21:32
  You know, a novice student comes out.
• 21:35
  How do they progress through the different run groups?
• 21:38
  Up to ultimately advance and maybe even becoming an instructor themselves.
• 21:41
  We only run three run groups and that allows us to give everybody access
• 21:46
  to a lot more track time than most of the DE organizations out there.
• 21:51
  Well, the novice group that we have includes both novice solo and novice
• 21:54
  students that go out in the same group.
• 21:56
  We have an intermediate and advanced group.
• 21:58
  So with our three run groups.
• 22:00
  I'm currently working on putting together an intermediate and an advanced playbook
• 22:04
  as well, so that drivers coming in have something to manage their expectations.
• 22:09
  What is expected of them to advance from novice to intermediate?
• 22:13
  And then from intermediate to advanced, it all focuses around awareness and safety
• 22:19
  and individual driver technique and skill.
• 22:21
  But the awareness is the biggest differentiating factor between
• 22:25
  which run group you're going to be in, in your management of traffic.
• 22:28
  Just me jumping in here, Phil, I think 1 of the keys here is that we're very
• 22:31
  careful with who we actually allow into the different wrong groups.
• 22:35
  So it starts with your selection process and just really vetting
• 22:38
  them and just making sure that they belong in the right group.
• 22:42
  So that makes it easier.
• 22:43
  And then we have several of the instructors that we trust that
• 22:46
  will go and do a check off flight and that's then say, yes, they can
• 22:51
  agree like to go on to the next one.
• 22:53
  You talked earlier about limiting the size of the run groups and of the event itself.
• 22:58
  Do you figure that size out by the ratio of cars per mile?
• 23:02
  Do you have some other way of determining or do you just have a
• 23:04
  fixed number and say, hey, We want 20 novices and we're happy with 20.
• 23:08
  How do you keep your run
• 23:09
  group small?
• 23:10
  It does go somewhat by the length of the track and also the configuration.
• 23:14
  So at Roebling road, which is 1.
• 23:17
  54 miles or something, we want that to 30 people per run group, period,
• 23:21
  novices, medium, and experienced.
• 23:22
  At CMP, we were at 35 per run group of being 2.
• 23:26
  24 mile track.
• 23:27
  At DIR, we might allow as many as 40.
• 23:30
  You know, I don't think I would put any more than that on any track anywhere.
• 23:34
  That would be my limit.
• 23:35
  But it is based on track length and configuration.
• 23:37
  you have some tracks at amp.
• 23:39
  Atlanta Motorsports Park.
• 23:40
  It's a great track.
• 23:41
  You can't put more than 30 people on there.
• 23:43
  It's just too technical.
• 23:44
  There's not enough long passing zones.
• 23:47
  And so we would limit that to 30 people as well.
• 23:49
  Gotcha.
• 23:50
  So in addition to that, you've got the coaches peppered throughout
• 23:54
  the three different run groups.
• 23:55
  They can run wherever they like.
• 23:56
  Yeah, our instructors can run in any group that they want to, but I've yet
• 24:01
  to have an instructor hold up traffic.
• 24:03
  Yeah, I'm going to have an instructor, you know, somebody come over and go, Hey,
• 24:07
  that instructor was holding me up all.
• 24:08
  Yeah, I guess this question goes back to earlier about, you
• 24:12
  know, students and instructors.
• 24:13
  Is there anything right now that we should know about with respect
• 24:16
  to this post code would world any special rules or anything like that?
• 24:20
  We don't enforce rules any stricter than whatever region or state
• 24:25
  or county that we're hosting in.
• 24:28
  And it's changed from county to county, but our overall.
• 24:32
  Recommendation is that our attendees assess their own level
• 24:35
  level risk, follow CDC guidelines.
• 24:38
  We provide these guidelines with our information packets prior to the
• 24:41
  events and any venue specific guidance on COVID is relayed with our final
• 24:46
  pre event email to our customers.
• 24:48
  We do and have since we did our first COVID affected event, I guess we kind
• 24:53
  of got lucky because we only had one event on the books in 2020 and it
• 24:58
  was in August and it was at in June.
• 25:01
  The governor here kind of opened up the state and local places to do what you
• 25:06
  think is right in your particular county.
• 25:08
  We were able to get through that pretty unscathed and host an
• 25:11
  event in August at road and road.
• 25:13
  We did have sanitizing stations in various places.
• 25:17
  So we put out hand sanitizer and instead of like, in our 1st event,
• 25:21
  when we had coffee and pastries, we actually went and got donuts
• 25:24
  from Dr donuts and they were fresh.
• 25:26
  Everything was prepackaged, um, and it has continued to stay
• 25:29
  prepackaged for multiple reasons.
• 25:31
  We found that it was easier that way too, but it's safer and cleaner, you
• 25:35
  know, we'd also like food that people can start with this prepackaged.
• 25:39
  Hand sanitizing, recommending masks, if you can't maintain social distance,
• 25:44
  if you're indoors, especially as far as the instructors and students, they
• 25:47
  can determine what, what level of risk you have with a full face helmet on
• 25:50
  sitting next next to somebody in a car.
• 25:52
  So, we don't do lead follow and I just wouldn't do it just based on
• 25:57
  my experience with what I said, the instructor summit and knowing and
• 26:01
  bouncing ideas off so many instructors, especially some that were forced to
• 26:04
  do lead follow in some organizations.
• 26:07
  And then they come back from it and they realize, well, that student
• 26:11
  didn't quite get as much quality information and coaching as he could
• 26:15
  have if he'd had a new structure in the car and could affect safety and
• 26:19
  it's not something that we want to do.
• 26:21
  We want it.
• 26:21
  We want to get as possible.
• 26:22
  So we're going to do in car and I think we're getting really
• 26:24
  close to having enough vaccine in this country for everybody.
• 26:27
  So hopefully it will be behind us by summertime and we can all go back to
• 26:32
  enjoying our hobby the way we used to.
• 26:33
  We talked about instructing a little bit and the DE program so far, you
• 26:37
  know, both Brad and I are coaches.
• 26:39
  We've gone through a multitude of different certification
• 26:41
  processes, et cetera.
• 26:43
  So we're always interested and we're always asking on the behalf of all of
• 26:46
  our friends that are coaches, what's it like to coach with max speed?
• 26:50
  What are you looking for in a coach?
• 26:52
  What are the requirements to come to you guys for the first time and say,
• 26:55
  Hey, I've been to road Atlanta 10 times.
• 26:57
  Can I come coach for you?
• 26:58
  What's involved in that process?
• 27:00
  Like I said earlier, I got invited to go to the instructor summit.
• 27:03
  I drove around the expo, or actually he introduced me to Eric Meyer and then,
• 27:08
  you know, that community is once you get in there, and I actually went to the
• 27:12
  instructor summit in December of 2019 here at Atlanta and a whole lot of the
• 27:19
  other principles of different companies here in the Southeast as well as.
• 27:24
  Awesome instructors with some that I've known from coming up through the
• 27:27
  DE ranks myself, and then I really wrap my arms around the instructor
• 27:32
  summit and the information they provide because I'm kind of like a sponge.
• 27:35
  I'll, I'll, I'll learn anything from anywhere.
• 27:38
  So, as part of that process, Brendan and I have both started our MSF Level
• 27:43
  1 goal to become MSF Level 2 certified.
• 27:46
  And then ultimately, I'm working with the Scott Elkins right now about
• 27:50
  getting max speed certified to run our own MSF Level 2 instructor curriculum
• 27:56
  course so that we can bring people from novice to intermediate to advanced
• 27:59
  and then straight on into instructing should they desire to do that.
• 28:02
  Everything's based on information brought down from the instructor summit.
• 28:05
  As far as people coming to instruct with us.
• 28:07
  If they got an instructor certification from another Organization, if it's
• 28:12
  PCA or BMW, or NASA, SCCA, whatever, if they've got something like that
• 28:18
  from another organization, we'll allow them to instruct for us.
• 28:22
  I know some people that don't have instructor certification
• 28:25
  that are competitive racers and have competition licenses.
• 28:29
  that are probably better at relaying that information to
• 28:32
  some of the instructors, I know.
• 28:33
  So we do have some competitive racers that also assist with our instruction.
• 28:36
  Very cool.
• 28:37
  Well, that's good to know.
• 28:37
  And it's always nice to have reciprocity because a lot of us
• 28:41
  as coaches do invest time in going through these certification processes.
• 28:44
  So we want to make sure that they're accepted in other places.
• 28:47
  And obviously, you know, nationally recognized programs like NASA and
• 28:50
  SCCA, they carry a lot of weight, you know, along with Uh, all the
• 28:54
  other ones that are out there.
• 28:54
  So that's good to know.
• 28:55
  I'm happy to know that you guys are welcoming us with open arms.
• 29:00
  So if I'm ready to come out to a track day and I want to come drive
• 29:03
  with max speed, how do I do that?
• 29:05
  Where do I find you all?
• 29:06
  How do I find your calendar?
• 29:08
  Obviously HPD junkie.
• 29:09
  I'm sure.
• 29:10
  Well, are there other places, your website and things like that?
• 29:13
  And then how do I register?
• 29:15
  I would say the best way to find us is by visiting our website, speedtrackdays.
• 29:19
  com.
• 29:20
  If you go there, the very first thing you'll see on the homepage
• 29:23
  is a register for events button.
• 29:25
  Click it, it drops you down to our events calendar.
• 29:28
  Once you're there, each event has a description, how much it's
• 29:32
  going to cost, where it's going to be, the date, time, etc.
• 29:35
  And once you click register here, that takes you to clubregistration.
• 29:39
  net, which is who we use for our registration platform.
• 29:42
  We also list events on motorsports.
• 29:45
  They allow, of course, the calendar listing, even if you don't use
• 29:47
  their registration services.
• 29:48
  So we're, and then HPDEjump.
• 29:51
  com has virtually every track in North America.
• 29:53
  So I'm just there as well.
• 29:55
  So you mentioned you've got three run groups.
• 29:58
  So what does that equate to for average session length?
• 30:01
  What's the average weekend or day cost?
• 30:04
  And then I guess the dollars per session, dollars per track time.
• 30:09
  How's that all play out?
• 30:10
  At all of our events, our current full weekend events.
• 30:14
  We're supposed to have access to six hours of track time over the weekend.
• 30:17
  It's a lot of track.
• 30:18
  Most, most people don't hang out for the second half of Sunday.
• 30:21
  But yeah, so everybody gets six 30 minute run sessions or
• 30:25
  run group sessions per day.
• 30:26
  They're spaced out with three run groups for, so you run for 30 minutes, you get
• 30:30
  an hour to chill out and relax, and then you're back on the track for 30 minutes.
• 30:34
  Total cost for our most recent event at CMP was $450, and
• 30:38
  uh, that's a full weekend.
• 30:39
  That equals a per session price of 37 50 or a buck 25 a minute, which we
• 30:45
  kind of think is pretty great value for our customers tracking dollars.
• 30:49
  I think that's the most accurate breakdown we've ever gotten on the show.
• 30:52
  So thank you for that.
• 30:54
  I was like, that's also the lengthiest amount of track
• 30:57
  time for a weekend as well.
• 30:58
  That is very true.
• 30:59
  Six hours is a lot of track time.
• 31:01
  It's definitely the longest we've heard.
• 31:02
  It's part of, it's on our website
• 31:04
  too, all of these things that we put out into the public space, whether it's
• 31:07
  through social media or on our website or whatever, our goal is to provide
• 31:11
  the very best track time and driver education in the HPD industry, period.
• 31:15
  And we're young and new, but that is our goal.
• 31:18
  Every day.
• 31:19
  Brendan is invaluable as an advisor in a business mind.
• 31:24
  The fact that we started 2.
• 31:25
  5 years ago, and we've only run 4 events.
• 31:28
  I'm always looking three years down the road.
• 31:30
  Where do we position ourselves in the market so that we can give our service?
• 31:35
  We like thinking we provide a service and we're privileged to be able to do it.
• 31:39
  So bring these people together, give them a good safe environment
• 31:42
  to go out and enjoy the racetrack.
• 31:43
  And then on top of that, encourage that camaraderie and that friendliness in the
• 31:47
  paddock and in the hospitality pavilion.
• 31:49
  We like seeing smiling faces at our events.
• 31:52
  And we just want to keep bringing that to the public.
• 31:55
  So you've got smiling faces on the other side of a laptop on your website,
• 31:59
  getting ready to register for either CMP, Roeblood Road or Road Atlanta,
• 32:03
  which is what I've heard so far.
• 32:05
  So what comes next?
• 32:07
  Are we doing tech?
• 32:08
  You talked about the playbook, doing some e learning type stuff
• 32:11
  up front, which is really cool.
• 32:13
  How do we get from, I click the button and put in my credit card
• 32:16
  number to my first session out on track, what happens in between?
• 32:19
  We don't inspect.
• 32:21
  Our participants cars for a couple of reasons, but mainly that
• 32:25
  responsibility is left to them or a mechanic of their choosing.
• 32:27
  They must sign off on our tech form and waiver certifying that they have
• 32:31
  inspected all the items we list on our tech form and waiver, making sure
• 32:35
  that they're safe and to assure their vehicles safe for high speed driving.
• 32:39
  It just goes back to in the past, it's better to put that onus of
• 32:42
  responsibility on the customer.
• 32:44
  For me to say, I don't know what every single vehicle on the planet requires, you
• 32:48
  know, where, where the, where this is on that, or what that is on a different car.
• 32:53
  They bring us the tech form.
• 32:54
  They say, yep, it's ready to go.
• 32:55
  And if it breaks, it's on, we let them go with that.
• 32:58
  It also allows us to not spend an hour Every morning, the cars, so it's a, it's
• 33:05
  a time saver, which allows us to put the 6 hours of time on in the weekend.
• 33:10
  As long as they sign off and run.
• 33:12
  That's right.
• 33:13
  And I know 1 thing is for certain.
• 33:14
  If you are leaking blinker fluid, you have a problem.
• 33:18
  Oh, absolutely.
• 33:20
  You know, we talked about the registration process.
• 33:21
  We talked about tech and things like that, you know, safety is paramount.
• 33:25
  It's something that it's the front of everybody's mind, but it's also the thing
• 33:28
  that keeps most people from coming out to events like this and the other thing is
• 33:32
  usually, well, I don't have the right car.
• 33:34
  Well, you know, many people have said, run what you brung and
• 33:38
  you're going to have a blast.
• 33:39
  So we can just kind of discount that from the word go, but it's
• 33:42
  always the other side of it is.
• 33:43
  Well, I can run what I brung, but I need to make sure I'm
• 33:46
  covered in some shape or form.
• 33:48
  If something suddenly happens, like this is my daily driver, I can't
• 33:51
  afford to wreck it, you know, whatever.
• 33:53
  And then suddenly a few years back, the idea of track insurance was born,
• 33:58
  you know, thanks to folks like Lockton and Haggerty and so on down the line.
• 34:01
  So we want to get your opinion as an organizer about.
• 34:05
  How you feel about track insurance?
• 34:07
  Do you recommend it?
• 34:08
  And if you do, is it part of your registration process or do you have a
• 34:12
  recommended track insurance partner that you tell people that they should look
• 34:15
  into before coming to a max speed event?
• 34:18
  I think it all starts with the attitude of the organizers for safety.
• 34:24
  I think it comes down to the quality of the instructors and the mindset that
• 34:28
  you have with your instructors for the students, for the classroom sessions.
• 34:32
  So there's an overall kind of an atmosphere or a mood that
• 34:36
  comes down from the top down.
• 34:38
  And I think one of the most critical things that we put an emphasis on that
• 34:42
  maybe we didn't see with some of the other groups that we've like participated
• 34:45
  in is how do you deal with issues?
• 34:48
  How do you deal with problems?
• 34:49
  If there is a driver in a particular run group that's causing issues
• 34:52
  and problems, what is the best way to deal with that situation?
• 34:55
  And we take it seriously because we want quality.
• 34:58
  We want everyone else to have fun.
• 35:00
  And there's a way that you can solve issues without causing a major issue.
• 35:04
  And I think it's the way that it gets dealt with.
• 35:06
  Being as new as we are, we don't
• 35:07
  have any partners per se.
• 35:10
  We have, the way that I look at it, the way that we look at it is that we
• 35:13
  recommend that each attendee research the market based on the vehicle's
• 35:16
  value and what level of financial risk they're comfortable with before
• 35:19
  they put their vehicle on the track.
• 35:20
  You know, that's just solid advice.
• 35:23
  He and I both drive 20 year old Miatas and if I total it, I will
• 35:27
  drag it back from one of the trailer.
• 35:28
  I'll buy a new tub next week and I'll put all my goodies on it
• 35:31
  and I'll go back to the track.
• 35:32
  I had the GT3 probably doesn't feel the same way.
• 35:35
  You know, they might want to come out and get track insurance.
• 35:38
  Uh, we make it known that it's available.
• 35:41
  To our customers, but we don't require it.
• 35:43
  We don't recommend a particular provider.
• 35:46
  We do at least give them the idea that this is available.
• 35:49
  If you're concerned about your track.
• 35:51
  The other thing you pointed out at the beginning of that question was.
• 35:54
  Safety, I think a lot of people don't recognize how safe it
• 35:58
  actually is part of a track day.
• 36:01
  And explore its limits and your, your limits as a driver, if you're going
• 36:05
  to do that, do it on track where, you know, if you lose it, there's,
• 36:09
  you know, sand pits and tire barriers and things designed to keep you safe.
• 36:14
  Should you happen to have it off plus the fact that the road of safety
• 36:17
  achieved by everybody going in the same direction under the same rules.
• 36:24
  It is truly safer on track because of the gear we use, the training we have,
• 36:29
  the environment itself, then these folks that are running around on the
• 36:33
  major highways at triple digit speeds, weaving in and out of cars, there's a
• 36:36
  higher probability of something happening on the street in a fluke occurrence
• 36:41
  that somebody is not paying attention.
• 36:42
  They're not situationally aware, all these kinds of things.
• 36:44
  I mean, we could wax both ways.
• 36:45
  Poetic about this for probably an entire another episode.
• 36:48
  Although I think we've already done that before.
• 36:50
  So the idea there is, is to remind people again, that in a lot of motor sports and
• 36:55
  all the disciplines that we've talked about on this show, HPDE, along with a lot
• 37:00
  of others is some of the safest out there.
• 37:03
  And the skills that you learn at a DE are second to none.
• 37:07
  They're not like anything you would have.
• 37:09
  Learn in driver's ed or anything like that.
• 37:11
  And I think it, it pays people dividends to come and learn what a car can really
• 37:16
  do and learn to not be afraid of it.
• 37:19
  It's a tool.
• 37:21
  It's not an appliance, right?
• 37:22
  That's always my big thing.
• 37:24
  And you need to learn how to.
• 37:25
  to use that tool appropriately and DE is the right place to do it.
• 37:29
  Have you thought about with max speed doing some sort of tie in
• 37:34
  with street survival and with like teenage defensive driving and kind
• 37:38
  of using that as a way to curate and bring people up into the HPDE hobby?
• 37:45
  I have.
• 37:45
  I've actually spoken with Ron Z.
• 37:47
  He's on the board at Atlanta Motorsports Park.
• 37:50
  Atlanta Motorsports Park has a very good teenage driving course
• 37:53
  that they put on at their facility.
• 37:55
  And it is something that we've discussed that Max Speed might eventually
• 37:59
  sponsor something like that at Atlanta Motorsports Park for just that purpose.
• 38:03
  Hasn't come to fruition yet as we've been busy getting the ball rolling
• 38:07
  and getting our name out there and getting a customer base that, I mean,
• 38:10
  obviously we keep selling out events.
• 38:12
  It'll allow us the flexibility to spend resources elsewhere on things
• 38:17
  like that that aren't necessarily.
• 38:18
  They're not going to make your money back for the day, but they're going to
• 38:20
  help you give back to young drivers and.
• 38:24
  And honestly, anybody that comes to an HPD, not only are they going to learn
• 38:28
  great skills, I believe they're going to leave a safer driver on the street.
• 38:33
  Because once you have driven your car at speed on a racetrack, there's
• 38:37
  no way you can duplicate any of that on mountain road or anything
• 38:40
  with the level of safety involved.
• 38:42
  And I find a lot of people that leave HPDs.
• 38:44
  They talk about, you know, I can't even speak on the street anymore.
• 38:47
  Let's talk about other services that MaxSpeed offers that our
• 38:52
  listeners may not be familiar with.
• 38:53
  Those that are already comfortable with DEs, you know, have an
• 38:56
  idea of what they should expect.
• 38:58
  What's something else that really stands out about MaxSpeed?
• 39:01
  One of the things early on, like I said, I Raines, who was one of the founders
• 39:07
  of the KX Pro, a digital driving coach.
• 39:10
  Through that relationship and bouncing ideas off of him about what
• 39:14
  he thought the HPVE industry needed.
• 39:17
  What could he help us bring to the market?
• 39:19
  We became retailer for or dealer rather for Apex Pro.
• 39:23
  Brendan and I use it all the time to compare our own data because
• 39:27
  we're in such similar cars.
• 39:29
  If 1 of us has a session and, you know, we're 3 or 4 pence faster than the other
• 39:33
  1, we will sit down in the paddock and take out our phones and we will literally
• 39:38
  overlay data and look at who was, you know, okay, you carried X amounts
• 39:42
  of speed for this corner versus me.
• 39:44
  What am I doing?
• 39:44
  So, we use that to help us become better drivers and then
• 39:47
  we share it with our customers.
• 39:49
  And once you get out of the novice ranks and you're really, you know, you're
• 39:52
  an intermediate or advanced driver and you're trying to shave tenths of a second,
• 39:56
  you need something to help you do that.
• 39:58
  Some sort of driver aid.
• 39:59
  And I just really like the Apex Pro platform.
• 40:01
  So, uh, we carry that.
• 40:03
  We carry a lot of products to support the platform.
• 40:05
  We have hosted Data and Donuts event here in our Max Speed Garage Club.
• 40:09
  We invited people in that didn't even use an Apex Pro.
• 40:13
  Using any into, so whatever they use to, to gather data racers and.
• 40:18
  HPD folks, it didn't matter what data platform they used, data is the same.
• 40:23
  It's just how you gather it and then how it's represented back to you.
• 40:26
  You can use a laptop or computer, or can you do it on your phone or an iPad?
• 40:30
  Screen we put up, we show them a speed trace, we explain to them
• 40:33
  what's going on at the top and the bottom of the speed trace.
• 40:36
  How you can actually look at a speed trace and say, Oh, I know what racetrack
• 40:40
  that is, based on the speed trace.
• 40:42
  Because you know where your high points and your low points are.
• 40:44
  Like I said, very heavily involved with the Apex Pro.
• 40:47
  And helping drivers use better their driving skills.
• 40:52
  So several times you've mentioned the garage club.
• 40:54
  Then I also noticed by looking at your website, there's something
• 40:57
  known as the max rewards program.
• 40:59
  Do you want to unpack both of those for us?
• 41:01
  The many things that we do, you know, encompasses the difference.
• 41:06
  Is our max rewards program.
• 41:07
  We understand that people have a choice and where they spend their dollar.
• 41:12
  There's a lot of providers out here.
• 41:13
  And honestly, the biggest thing now is good viable dates.
• 41:17
  At racetracks, we need more asphalt.
• 41:20
  We came up with a, a loyalty program basically.
• 41:23
  So, the max rewards program gives our customers 10 percent cash back
• 41:27
  on every dollar they spend with us.
• 41:29
  So they spend money with us when they accumulate a 1000 points.
• 41:33
  We send them a 100.
• 41:35
  Max Rewards Visa gift cards and just to choose here at CMP last weekend
• 41:40
  during our drivers meeting, we gave out three and some of those points
• 41:45
  that's not just on the next can earn points by buying an apex pro through
• 41:49
  our website or buying accessories or any track day purchases for HPV or any
• 41:54
  purchases made through our website.
• 41:56
  Our customers can accumulate max rewards points.
• 41:59
  That's our max rewards.
• 42:00
  And the garage club, the garage club, I think that was his fault.
• 42:05
  This, this whole thing was his fault because he's the one that swayed me
• 42:09
  away from having a septic tank company, you know, clean up crap right now.
• 42:15
  So, uh, but basically he lives in a neighborhood where they won't allow you
• 42:19
  to park your race car in the driveway.
• 42:22
  And.
• 42:23
  He had his race car and, or his race car, his HP or he's, he's parked in the
• 42:28
  storage place over here around the corner.
• 42:30
  His tools were all in the garage.
• 42:32
  So the garage started a place for us to get our cars, tools, go karts,
• 42:37
  golf carts, and other things out of our lives garages and we rented a,
• 42:42
  it's about 1800 square foot shop.
• 42:44
  It's a one mile from the front entrance of road Atlanta.
• 42:48
  We moved our tools and our cars in and started meeting on the weekends
• 42:51
  to work on our track day cars.
• 42:53
  Then as often happens, we decided to have a lift because we're old and I
• 42:58
  don't want to crawl underneath my car.
• 42:59
  So we bought a lift and we installed a lift since we both have full time jobs and
• 43:04
  we weren't using the place much, except on the weekends, we thought, you know, we
• 43:06
  got to put some buddies to do this too.
• 43:08
  And so we invited them over and.
• 43:10
  And essentially our buddies and track day friends and stuff like that
• 43:14
  joined the club or started using them.
• 43:16
  And so we, we just kind of split the room amongst ourselves.
• 43:19
  And well, we didn't at 1st, it was can we do this?
• 43:22
  Is it legal?
• 43:23
  More research due diligence insurance?
• 43:25
  Uh, how do we take care of that?
• 43:27
  What kind of liabilities involved got all those pieces
• 43:30
  of the puzzle figured out and.
• 43:31
  And the Maxpeed Garage Club was formed.
• 43:33
  So right now, it's just a few of our friends and us and
• 43:36
  we basically split the rent.
• 43:38
  But as soon as I retire from the feds and devote 100 percent of my time to this
• 43:43
  endeavor, the Maxpeed Garage Club will be exploding, expanding, put it that way.
• 43:49
  We'll be looking for other spaces and offer vehicle storage,
• 43:53
  full service mechanic work.
• 43:55
  As well as the opportunity for people that want to do self service mechanic
• 43:59
  work to be able to utilize a lift and tools and such that will have
• 44:03
  that's going to grow as soon as I can.
• 44:05
  Give it 100 percent of
• 44:05
  my time.
• 44:06
  We stage out of here as well.
• 44:08
  When we do a track day at like Rhode Atlanta, um, you know, there's a lounge
• 44:13
  area here that has an air conditioner and a heater and a refrigerator and
• 44:17
  it's just a comfortable place with several couches just to, uh, just to
• 44:20
  spend some time like between runs at
• 44:23
  when we're, when we're not, when we're not hosting, if we're spending, if we're
• 44:27
  going to something, you go to somebody's track day, in August and it's 100
• 44:32
  outside, you can sit around the paddock in some shade or pull off the track.
• 44:36
  We drive one mile down the street, pull into our garage, hop out, go
• 44:40
  into the air conditioned lounge.
• 44:42
  Have a nice cold water, compare data, sit around for an hour and 20 minutes.
• 44:46
  And then we jump in our cars, put our hands and helmets on and we're
• 44:49
  driving right back to the restaurant.
• 44:51
  Nice.
• 44:52
  It's pretty convenient for that.
• 44:54
  So Phil and Brendan, as we wrap up the segment here, you know, we always want to
• 44:57
  give people the opportunity to thank their sponsors, shout out to different people.
• 45:01
  So now's your chance.
• 45:03
  We don't have any actual sponsors.
• 45:06
  We are open to have some, if anybody wants to come, you know, do some or
• 45:09
  something, we'd be down for that.
• 45:11
  We have a lot of great mutual agreements and like mutual promotion
• 45:14
  agreements and, and mutual promotion things in place with people.
• 45:18
  You mentioned him earlier in the, in the show, and we are friends.
• 45:21
  Dave Peters from HPE Junkie.
• 45:23
  Like I said, he, he lists virtually every track day in North America, but he has
• 45:27
  been a huge resource in helping us get MaxFeed launched as far as the format
• 45:32
  that we put out and, and the whole.
• 45:35
  Touchpoint feel that you get if you come to a max speed event,
• 45:38
  Dave's been part of helping us craft that and put that in place.
• 45:42
  Andrew rains at apex pro once again, invaluable resource when we were
• 45:46
  just when this was just a concept.
• 45:49
  And, uh, of course, we, we are an apex pro dealer through that relationship.
• 45:52
  So racing for ALS, Scott Lloyd, he was at our most recent event, and we actually
• 45:58
  have a friend, a personal friend who has a shop right here across from us.
• 46:02
  Who's wife recently got a very, uh, ALS diagnosis.
• 46:06
  So having them there, having her there, it's been a great relationship.
• 46:10
  And so we want to help raise awareness.
• 46:12
  So,
• 46:12
  you know,
• 46:13
  shout out to Racing for ALS and them.
• 46:14
  Carl and Sylvia Metz run Toby Anna's Guardian Angel Rescue,
• 46:18
  a 501c3 that rescues dogs all through the Carolinas and Georgia.
• 46:22
  They've just been really good friends.
• 46:22
  He's helped promote us a ton.
• 46:24
  He knows.
• 46:25
  He's been doing this hobby for 30 years and racing champ car and lemons.
• 46:29
  And you can get it.
• 46:30
  So they run that rescue.
• 46:31
  And as part of it, we do a touring lap segment where we
• 46:35
  raise money for their charity.
• 46:37
  And he's got a multi thousand dollar bill every month.
• 46:39
  So, so we do what we can to help them out.
• 46:42
  Last but not least, Anika Carter of Anika's Racing.
• 46:44
  She was big on social media for us early on to help get the word out.
• 46:48
  Ron Zagdorf.
• 46:50
  Discovery Parts, Ethan Jew, Violence Racing in Savannah, Georgia, and
• 46:54
  Michael Gallagher is the president of Power Dynamics Consulting and a
• 46:59
  NASA racer who runs late model stuff.
• 47:01
  He and his wife, who owns Violent HD, were huge in promoting us around
• 47:06
  Roebling, which, like you said earlier, we don't really have a home track,
• 47:09
  but we have been there three times.
• 47:11
  We love hosting there and those people down in that region
• 47:14
  have helped us tremendously.
• 47:16
  So shout out to all of those people.
• 47:18
  We appreciate your help.
• 47:19
  So Brendan and Phil, I got to commend you guys for jumping into this market,
• 47:24
  you know, stick, sticking your necks out there and, and trying something
• 47:27
  new and Setting yourselves up for retirement in this world of HPD.
• 47:30
  It's a very rewarding one.
• 47:32
  It's very educational one.
• 47:33
  I think you guys are on the right track.
• 47:35
  You're doing all the right things, checking all the right boxes, and we wish
• 47:38
  you the best of luck in this endeavor.
• 47:40
  And we want to see where you are next season and the
• 47:42
  season after that, and so on.
• 47:44
  And we'll see you guys.
• 47:44
  We're looking forward to coming and joining one of your
• 47:46
  events here in the near future.
• 47:47
  So we'll be keeping an eye on your schedule.
• 47:49
  And for those of you that are listening, if you want more information
• 47:53
  on max speed track days, remember to visit max speed track days.
• 47:57
  com or follow them on Facebook and Instagram at max speed track days.
• 48:02
  Or if you want to get ahold of Phil and Brendan use their online contact
• 48:06
  us form on their website as a special note for all of our listeners.
• 48:12
  Anyone that subscribes to the Mac Speed newsletter, those folks are
• 48:16
  automatically entered to win a free track weekend, 100 visa gift card or
• 48:23
  other merchandise, swag, et cetera, just for following Mac Speeds progress
• 48:29
  along the way on this epic journey that they've taken on in the HBDE world.
• 48:34
  So I can't thank you guys enough for coming on the show, sharing your story,
• 48:38
  getting people to know you better.
• 48:39
  And again, we wish you the best of luck.
• 48:41
  Eric, Brad, we want to thank you for giving us the opportunity, helping
• 48:45
  us spread the word about Maxpeed.
• 48:46
  And we would love to chat more, say a year, 18 months down the road and see,
• 48:51
  see where that vision is taking us.
• 48:53
  We want to see you guys at VIR.
• 48:56
  Hundred percent.
• 48:58
  I want to see us at the hour as well.
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