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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 10-15-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 3: Welcome everybody to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours. It is
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  Speaker 3: October fifteenth, and uh, it's been quite a week, a
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  Speaker 3: lot going on. We got built back, thank goodness U.
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  Speaker 3: So we got Susie Bill and myself and producer Steve
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  Speaker 3: behind the screen and we are all here and hopefully
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  Speaker 3: the show is good therapy to all of us because
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  Speaker 3: we all needed. It's been a rough week. All right.
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  Speaker 3: Before we start, many of you know that I have
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  Speaker 3: a family member who's had a stroke and balance and
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  Speaker 3: stuff has been kind of difficult, and they fell the
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  Speaker 3: other day really bad. I mean scared me bad, hurt them.
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  Speaker 3: The balance just isn't quite right, and that the numb
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  Speaker 3: side of the body, the foot hit something and didn't
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  Speaker 3: feel it and fell and tumbled hard. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was heartbreaking. So I reached out to one of the
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  Speaker 3: supervisors of the employee and my patient and said, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to update you. You guys are you know,
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  Speaker 3: saying a lot of things and not only can she
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  Speaker 3: not drive, but her balance isn't quite right and just
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  Speaker 3: coming from the parking lot and upstairs and over curbs.
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  Speaker 3: This is a big deal. But she's doing very well
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  Speaker 3: at the computer and has trained herself to use that
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  Speaker 3: left hand which doesn't go operate very well. And they
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  Speaker 3: keep saying things like the other day somebody put out
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  Speaker 3: the word to another person that she would be staying
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  Speaker 3: at home working. Then a few days later somebody said,
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  Speaker 3: your claim has been denied. Well, she never filed a claim.
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  Speaker 3: She just politely notified them that I can't drive and
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing very productive work at the home office, so hopefully,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we won't have any problem. And I thought
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  Speaker 3: it would be really good just to let him know
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  Speaker 3: that she's having trouble walking also and the balance is
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  Speaker 3: a problem. Well, the person that I contacted did not
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  Speaker 3: contact me, but cried like a baby to somebody else
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  Speaker 3: and they contacted my patient and said, please ask the
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  Speaker 3: doctor not to call them because they can't do anything.
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  Speaker 3: So I told the patient right back and tell them
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  Speaker 3: the doctor didn't ask him to do anything. He was
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  Speaker 3: giving him a friendly update because he knew they didn't
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  Speaker 3: know about the balance. And they said, well, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the claim has been denied and somebody in HR needs
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  Speaker 3: to get with you. Well, there never was a claim filed.
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  Speaker 3: And one of the things they said in the beginning
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  Speaker 3: was your leave of absence application is pending. She never
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  Speaker 3: asked for a leave of absence. She's working like a
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  Speaker 3: champ every day. So I don't know what's wrong with
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  Speaker 3: these people. I'm so embarrassed as a human being that
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  Speaker 3: somebody at that company couldn't have said she had a stroke.
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna let her continue working like she is. She's
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  Speaker 3: one of our best employs. She starts work an hour
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  Speaker 3: and a half early every day because she can. Before
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  Speaker 3: she would have been on the road. So very sad. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: Susie and Bill go ahead and say hello and let's
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  Speaker 3: start things rolling.
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  Speaker 7: Susie, Hello, everyone.
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  Speaker 3: That is all right, Well we are all back tonight.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to talk about dental on my part, and
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  Speaker 3: the reason I brought that up is over the years,
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  Speaker 3: me and the dentists have disagreed a whole bunch. They
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  Speaker 3: are taught fluoride is good for you, and they believe
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  Speaker 3: that because they have never seen the truth about how
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  Speaker 3: it damages the diroid and all the problems it causes
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  Speaker 3: you're now seeing. I think the state of Florida was
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  Speaker 3: the first ones that is banning fluoride and drinking water,
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  Speaker 3: and so that's a good sign. That shows that somebody's
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  Speaker 3: paying attention. And usually it's just politics, but also the
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  Speaker 3: dental offices push every six months coming in for a
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  Speaker 3: checkup and a cleaning. Well, my experience over the years
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  Speaker 3: was all all those cleanings were wearing away the enamel
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  Speaker 3: and then they start telling people you have receding gumline,
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  Speaker 3: which from all the cleaning, it's damaged some of the
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  Speaker 3: gums and it's taken away some of the enamel, so
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  Speaker 3: you've got less tooth and the gums being worked too hard.
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  Speaker 3: Probably thirty years ago, they used to tell people brush
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  Speaker 3: your teeth until they bleed, and they thought that was
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  Speaker 3: a good thing. It was not, And many of the
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  Speaker 3: toothpastes today will say anti cavity fluoride toothpaste, and they
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  Speaker 3: think the fluoride is helping stop cavities, and it's far
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  Speaker 3: from that. There's tons of research out there that fluoride
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  Speaker 3: is bad in so many ways, but mostly damaging your thyroid.
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  Speaker 3: That's a big one. And it is amazing in this
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  Speaker 3: day and age out there where Susie and Steve live,
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  Speaker 3: that community voted to continue putting fluoride in their drinking water.
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  Speaker 3: Most of the nation is waking up and they voted
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  Speaker 3: to continue something very terrible, and we have no clue
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  Speaker 3: all the damage that's done to people. So many things
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  Speaker 3: about fluoride bad news, and how all of it started
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  Speaker 3: was many years ago when they first start making aluminum,
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  Speaker 3: one of the byproducts something they needed to get rid
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  Speaker 3: of was fluoride, and the company aluminum Companies, start dumping
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  Speaker 3: it on the land, and the farmers and the ranchers
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  Speaker 3: all of a sudden had problems and they saw that
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  Speaker 3: this was bad for the soil and the animals, so
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  Speaker 3: they had taken them to court and aluminum companies had
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  Speaker 3: to come up with something else. So then they start
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  Speaker 3: working on mess political ad campaign to let everybody know
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  Speaker 3: that fluoride was good for your teeth. And I don't
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  Speaker 3: know how they sold it, but they did so. I
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  Speaker 3: saw a commercial yesterday for a mouthwash and it said
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  Speaker 3: anti cavity fluoride mouthwash. So and then some of these
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  Speaker 3: companies that tell you their natural are making the fluoride
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  Speaker 3: version and the non fluoride version. And one of them
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  Speaker 3: is a toothpaste company, and I called them and I asked,
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  Speaker 3: why you claim to be natural and healthy. Why are
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  Speaker 3: you making a toothpaste that has fluoride in it when
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  Speaker 3: you know that's bad. And their answer to me was,
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  Speaker 3: some people don't know that, and they want fluoride because
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  Speaker 3: they think it's good for them, so we put it
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  Speaker 3: in there. You gotta wonder why they didn't just tell
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  Speaker 3: people there's a ton of research that it's bad for you,
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  Speaker 3: unless the people that are making fluoride and producing the
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  Speaker 3: side the byproduct are paying a lot of money and
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  Speaker 3: have very very powerful people pushing fluoride chemical, which is
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  Speaker 3: probably the case. But the thing is, you don't want
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  Speaker 3: to go get your teeth cleaned every six months. That's
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  Speaker 3: a bad thing, no matter what they tell you. I
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  Speaker 3: had one patient who had let them do it so
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  Speaker 3: long that they told her that your gums have receded
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  Speaker 3: so bad, we need to do a skin graft from
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  Speaker 3: the roof of your mouth and put that skin around
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  Speaker 3: your teeth to restore the gums. I still hurt thinking
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  Speaker 3: about that. And all it was was too many cleanings.
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  Speaker 3: And I one time dated a dental hygienis from New
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  Speaker 3: Orleans and we did not agree on too stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: as I got more and more educated as a doctor,
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  Speaker 3: the more I learned, the more horrified I was how
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  Speaker 3: strong they pushed people to come get your teeth cleaned
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  Speaker 3: and take your fluoride toothpaste and fluoride tablets. Hey, they
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  Speaker 3: had all kinds of stuff at these dental offices. And
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  Speaker 3: I've had several discussions with dentists and they really believe
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  Speaker 3: that the fluoride is good. They have been told that,
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  Speaker 3: and they've not been told any of the truth, none
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  Speaker 3: of the other research, just the part kind of like
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  Speaker 3: watching mainstream news. I guess so very very sad what
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  Speaker 3: I tell everybody. When we used to do the industritional consoles,
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  Speaker 3: part of that was with dental stuff too, and I
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  Speaker 3: would show them a few choices of toothpaste without fluoride
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  Speaker 3: and natural is possible. I would tell them brush your
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  Speaker 3: teeth in the morning when you wake up if you
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  Speaker 3: want to brush your teeth throughout the day. For a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people that's not real possible because you're at work.
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  Speaker 3: And then I said brush your teeth before bed. But
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  Speaker 3: before you brush your teeth, floss, so floss every night,
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  Speaker 3: wrench your mouth, and then brush your teeth. And there
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  Speaker 3: are plenty of natural mouthwashes out there without fluoride. And
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  Speaker 3: I would recommend that you rent your mouth with the
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  Speaker 3: mouthwash at least a few times a week, but once
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  Speaker 3: a day would be better. So what you're doing, you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna brush your teeth at least twice a day, rense
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  Speaker 3: with the mouthwash, and floss before bedtime and before that
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  Speaker 3: final brushing, and you won't have a lot of the
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  Speaker 3: tooth problems. Now, if you need supplementation and nutritional little
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  Speaker 3: support for your your teeth, there are all kinds of
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  Speaker 3: good products through standard processing METI herb to help you
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  Speaker 3: with that. There's a complete dental protocol for the dentists,
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  Speaker 3: so they know what they can do and products they
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  Speaker 3: can recommend for you. And you know, we we've got
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  Speaker 3: things to help make the teeth stronger to make to
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  Speaker 3: heal the gums to repair the loss of your receding
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  Speaker 3: gum lines that they tell you about, and you just
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  Speaker 3: got to watch out because they give you a lot
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  Speaker 3: of bad advice, and that's what happens, is cavities and
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  Speaker 3: thyroid problems and receding gumb lines and loss of enamel
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  Speaker 3: on the teeth, all those things that could have been prevented.
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  Speaker 3: And there's plenty of things we can take to help
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  Speaker 3: even after that, and a lot of things you know,
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  Speaker 3: like they're real big on root canals. Well, years ago,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know anything about that, and like everybody else,
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  Speaker 3: I had some of that done to me and it
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  Speaker 3: didn't do anything because lots and lots of problems. And
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  Speaker 3: so as you figure out more of this, there's more
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  Speaker 3: things you can do. We've got good products like calcil
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  Speaker 3: food wafers, we've got biodent, we've got different dental things.
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  Speaker 3: Just the natural every day nutrition like cattalin and calcium lactate.
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  Speaker 3: These are things that are going to help keep your
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  Speaker 3: teeth healthy. So there's a lot of stuff you can do,
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  Speaker 3: but you don't want to be doing every six months
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  Speaker 3: getting your teeth cleaned and going down that road it's
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  Speaker 3: a very very bad road. So, like I said, a lot,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the dentists and I have disagreed big
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  Speaker 3: time when we got into those discussions, and I'd just
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  Speaker 3: tell them, I'm sorry, but you guys haven't seen all
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  Speaker 3: the research. And I always kept some to show them.
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  Speaker 3: And some of them I think have open minds and
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  Speaker 3: they'll think about it, but they're so brainwashed and so
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  Speaker 3: trained on what they do. It's hard for them. So
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  Speaker 3: you know, you got to take care of yourself now.
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  Speaker 3: Some people insist they'll keep going so they need to
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  Speaker 3: get the gum transplant, or they try to re enamel
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  Speaker 3: their teeth, or they wonder why our teeth are so sensitive. Well,
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  Speaker 3: all them cleanings, it's very very bad and you shouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be doing it. I think that's one of the worst
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  Speaker 3: things in the world when they start doing your cleanings
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  Speaker 3: and then they want to One of the funny things
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  Speaker 3: to me is they check your blood pressure when you
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  Speaker 3: go in. Well, i'm gonna tell you what for most
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  Speaker 3: people go into the dentist is a very unpleasant thing.
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  Speaker 3: In most cases, I would say there's probably a few
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  Speaker 3: that are not. And your blood pressure is a little
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  Speaker 3: high because you know, I'm probably gonna get drilled on
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  Speaker 3: at a shot and not pleasant, so the body naturally
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  Speaker 3: is going to protest. So I just say it's so
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  Speaker 3: much easier stay away from that stuff. Take care of
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  Speaker 3: your teeth. Brush in the morning, rents with a mouth
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  Speaker 3: washed through out today, floss at night, then brush, and
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  Speaker 3: I think you'll be far far ahead. And the best
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  Speaker 3: thing you can do is if you see a dentist offices,
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  Speaker 3: walk around it, and there are going to be times
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  Speaker 3: when you have no choice, something has to be pulled
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  Speaker 3: or there's a real problem, and those are I think
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  Speaker 3: more rare. But I remember as a kid I went
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  Speaker 3: to a dentist and they wanted to do braces, and
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  Speaker 3: he's the dentist was telling me. He said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: could have played football, but I do braces now and
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  Speaker 3: I make a fortune, so that was a pretty good
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  Speaker 3: incentive for him. All right, Susie anything.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's interesting how they take a poisonous byproduct,
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  Speaker 7: they sell it to cities. Cities don't have money, they
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  Speaker 7: take the people's money and buy poison and then people
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  Speaker 7: drink it. Interesting, Bill, Yeah, that's so.
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  Speaker 8: You wonder whatever happened to the will of the people.
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  Speaker 8: On the other hand, most folks, I think, kind of
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  Speaker 8: buy into the that they've been told a lot of
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  Speaker 8: this stuff is good for them. There's always a kooky
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  Speaker 8: friends who says, no, it's not, and we all know
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  Speaker 8: that they're kind of strange people, but it's okay. You
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  Speaker 8: grow up hearing all this sort of stuff. And I
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  Speaker 8: think with a lot of folks, because I've known a
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  Speaker 8: number of datis in my life, not many people take
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  Speaker 8: real good care of their teeth. And they don't. As
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  Speaker 8: you say that the hygiene that they that we kind
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  Speaker 8: of take for granted and that we hopefully will practice
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  Speaker 8: this is you know, now, they don't do it, and
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  Speaker 8: you know, they lose all their teeth by the time
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  Speaker 8: they're fifty and they don't know why. But you know,
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  Speaker 8: their parents for that way, and their grandparents are that way,
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  Speaker 8: so it must be all right. So it's a hard
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  Speaker 8: it's a hard thing to de buck that tradition that
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  Speaker 8: these people have been beginning with for generations.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and like I said, we we have entire dentistry
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  Speaker 3: protocols for the dentists, but more for the patients, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like root canal, cataplex ACP right off the bat, that's
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  Speaker 3: gonna help with nerve pain, any kind of infection. And
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  Speaker 3: then you need some neuroplex if you're having problem with
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  Speaker 3: swollen gums, cataplex ACP to the rescue again with contoplex,
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  Speaker 3: so much stuff, chlorophyll for healing and promotion of healing.
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  Speaker 3: Bro if you've had a problem with the jawbone, our
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  Speaker 3: brittal teeth, bios bio dent, calcil, food wafers, ligaplex one
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  Speaker 3: and two. So many things that we have that could help.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes people have a bad taste in their mouth. That
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  Speaker 3: usually tells us there's a gut problem. So you want
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  Speaker 3: something like Lockedan's or AFA to food things like that.
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  Speaker 3: It's to start fixing that problem. But the big thing
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  Speaker 3: is they've sold people very well on getting your teeth
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  Speaker 3: cleaned every six months, and I say that's the worst
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  Speaker 3: thing you can do, and they hate when I say that.
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  Speaker 3: Does anybody do that to any of you guys? Go
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  Speaker 3: pretty regular? Nope, Susie, I don't remember if you did.
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  Speaker 3: You used to do that.
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  Speaker 7: I never did it every six months.
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  Speaker 8: That just.
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  Speaker 7: Something tell me they're not you know, they're not taking
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  Speaker 7: care of me. You know. I found it interesting many
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  Speaker 7: family members that were religious about there every six months.
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  Speaker 7: Most of them were told receiving gum thing, Well, if
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  Speaker 7: it worked, if it was efficient, then that wouldn't be happening.
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  Speaker 7: So I just I'm a free thinker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you were ahead of the curve on a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things, especially with your kids growing up. But so
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  Speaker 3: many people, you know, they thought it was good when
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  Speaker 3: we do those consults in my office and we got
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  Speaker 3: around to dental and I said, no, I would not
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  Speaker 3: do the cleaning. People are like, wow, you know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of them were glad to hear that because they
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  Speaker 3: didn't like going for it anyway, but they thought it
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  Speaker 3: was necessary. And what I saw was the the side
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  Speaker 3: of the coin, all the problems, the receding gums, the
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  Speaker 3: brittle teeth, all that stuff, loose teeth because it's brushing.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, I don't remember how many years,
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  Speaker 3: at least thirty years ago, maybe longer, there was a
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  Speaker 3: whole generation that was told brush your teeth till they bleed.
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  Speaker 3: And we all know that doesn't make good sense. That
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  Speaker 3: tells you you're doing something wrong. But if you do
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  Speaker 3: have bleeding ladies and gentlemen, I would suggest Seruda plus
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  Speaker 3: and Calmel plus, which is a calcium, magnesium and some
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  Speaker 3: other stuff in there to help deal with that. But
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  Speaker 3: the seruda especially it's very good to help with bleeding
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  Speaker 3: tissue and all. So dermotrophin p MG, which is a
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  Speaker 3: skin product. And if if you've got loose tissue or
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  Speaker 3: or you know, just skin loosely around the gums, you
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: might want to do dermotrophin. That's that can help an
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: awful lot. So it's a lot of a lot of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: good things. Some of the things that we used to
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: do for people with broken bones worked very well with
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: people for loose teeth and enamel loss and all that
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: good stuff. Uh, and just doing cattle in if you
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: didn't do anything else but cattle and you're ahead by
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: a long shot. And things like the calmal plus that's
• 25:52
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• 26:01
  Speaker 3: just a very very important product. It's got the parathyroid desiccate,
• 26:08
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• 26:14
  Speaker 3: there's some magnesium and very important stuff for your teeth,
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: biodent bios. These are all good things for good, strong,
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: healthy teeth. So if you get a tooth problem and
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: you're not sure, contact us. We'll be glad to help you.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things you can do and they're
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: a lot less expensive then going to the dentist. And like,
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: we have a lot of people with insurance, but their
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: insurance doesn't pay very well. And what they do is
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: you get charged that same amount whether you have insurance
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: or not, and you've got to pay the difference and
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: that stuff for a lot of people. There are some
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: insurance companies out there that write some reasonable things, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: one of the things is bad about almost all the
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: insurance companies, whether it's dental or health, is they have
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: people on the other side whose job is to look
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: at every claim and reject as best they can. They
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: are not in the business of paying claims. So just
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: because you think you've got great insurance does not mean that. Now,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: if you have a really good insurance plan and you
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: work for a really, really great company, it may pay
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: enough where they leave you alone. But that's hard. So
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: back to brush your teeth in the morning when you
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: wake up, mouthwash once a day, both products, no fluoride,
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: floss your teeth before bedtime, then brush and you should
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: be doing pretty good. And you can brush during today
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: if you need to. Most people don't don't have that
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: ability if they're at work. And even if you're not
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: at work, you probably don't think about brushing your teeth
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: during the day, but when you wake up and at
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: night before you go to bed, very important. So Susie,
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: anything else, no, Heil, how about you?
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Well, you know, the last couple of dentists that
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: I had were very much opposed to fluoride products. I
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: think that there's a growing awareness of that and people
• 28:41
  Speaker 8: are a dentists are understanding that there's things that happen
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: also for the clay of floridder are really not worth
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: it they I think again, from what I remember talking
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: to these fellows was that general dental hygiene in this
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: country is really pretty bad. And the thing about brushing
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: a lot is to try and get a lot of this,
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: a lot of the food out from between the teeth,
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: whether the k will start. But you know, the people
• 29:16
  Speaker 8: hurry enough to get out of the house in the morning,
• 29:19
  Speaker 8: they just don't do it. And again it's a choice
• 29:21
  Speaker 8: of how much how much effort at changing lifestyle do
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: we take to kind of take care of our our
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: health and most folks just don't think about it a
• 29:32
  Speaker 8: whole lot.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, and it sounds like, Uh,
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: the last couple of dentists that you've dealt with were
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: very very rare, because so many that I talked to, uh,
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: and so many patients were still being told, you know,
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: you need to get your teeth cleaned every six months.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: And like I said, I do you remember growing up, Bill,
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: if they were of them, they were still telling people
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: the brush to you bleed.
• 30:07
  Speaker 8: I never heard that. Yeah, that was that.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Was real popular. I don't remember where, but I heard
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: about it for many years. And they said that's what
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: they were told when they were kids.
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: Yeah. No, I never heard that until until you said tonight. Yeah,
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: I'm like, a pretty stupid idea.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, but they thought it was good. They this
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: goes way way back to the idea bleeding was pershing,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: and so they thought they were doing something good. But
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: that was not good. All right, guys, Well, this is
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hours. It is the fifteenth of October,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: and we're broadcasting in a little cooler temperature. It only
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: hit like ninety something today. Almost had to put my
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: big coat on and right now my outdoor fronts that
• 31:01
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• 31:06
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• 31:10
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• 31:13
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• 34:46
  Speaker 3: October fifteenth, and we've got the full crew tonight and
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: we're so grateful to have everybody back. We were talking
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: about dental stuff, and I just leave you with this
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: brush in the morning, toothpaste with no fluoride, natural as
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: you can find, mouthwash maybe once a day, no fluoride,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: and at the end of your day floss, then brush
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: rints and you should be good to go. And I
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: recommend you have a right to do whatever you want,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: but I recommend no six month cleaning. Going to the dentist,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, should only be when you have no
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: other choice, if you're in so much pain and a
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: tooth is killing you. There's things we can try, and
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: a lot of time it's very successful. But sometimes once
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: they get that bad, it's been building for a while
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: and maybe what we want to do is not going
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: to be fast enough to stop all that pain. But
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: you know that's going to be your call. But there
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: are a lot of things we can try. All right,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: We don't have any other comments from Susie or Bille
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on this stuff. We'll jump right in here to some
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: of the wonderful humor that we find on this show.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: Susie hit this made me think of a lot of women.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: The woman says to the people that she's talking to
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: that handle funerals and all that good stuff, the undertakers
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: at the martuary or whatever it's called. She said, when
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: I die, I want to be buried with my husband,
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: even if he's still alive. That's as cruel, that's as cruel.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: All right, I know both you fell out of your
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: chairst laughing. I'm sure all right. There was a blonde
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: and she got a brand new car, and she was
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: going to visit a friend who was just a couple
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: hours away. And when she came back, it took her
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: three days, but it only took her two hours to
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: get to her friends going there. And the mom came
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: out and said, what happened? What took you so long?
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And she said, these damn new cars. They got three
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: or four gears for going forward and only one gear
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: said return. So she put it in reverse and drove
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: home that way. That's pretty good, all right, Susy. I'm
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: sure you're going to agree with this. Huntley's probably there
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: and he'll agree says, how do you know when a
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: woman is getting ready to say something really intelligent, the
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: sentence will always start with A man told me, And
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: I gotta agree with that. That makes sense, all right?
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: All right? The guys said, my girlfriend and I have
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: been together for five long years. And he said, we
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: just found out today she's pregnant. He said, I'm going
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: to miss her. That was one from the dark one.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Susy right. Wife says she calls her husband on the
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: phone and he answers, and his wife says, where are you?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: He said, I just got back from home Depot. What's
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: going on? She said, you forgot I went with you,
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: because guys kind of get a little carried away at
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: home Depot, all right. And then the last one, a
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: man is at the super Bowl and he's in some
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: pretty nice seats and I think all of them are
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: pretty expensive, and he notices the seat next to him
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: is empty at the super Bowl in pretty expensive seats,
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: and he asked the guy next to him, he said,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: what's the deal with this empty seat? I can't believe
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: it at super Bowl? He said, Well, that's my wife's
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: used to be my wife's seat, and we used to
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: go to all the Super Bowls together, and she passed away,
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: and the guy said to him, well, couldn't you have
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: found another family member, you know, or a friend or
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: somebody to go with you? He said, no, they're all
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: at the funeral. All right, that was good. I don't
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: care what you say, you know, Yeah, choice super Bowl
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: or a funeral where nobody's going to be there anyway.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking that's a hard but who knows. All right,
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: So back to the issue with my patient that had
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: the stroke. I pray none of you ever go through this,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: because it's a really bad thing. You'll notice their balances off. Probably,
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: you'll notice sometimes the memory is not right, little things
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: are different, and I've I have noticed when you have
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: those kind of issues, and I've dealt with stroke patients before.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Just let them go. You don't need to remind them
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: or let them know they forgot to do this or
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: But one of the things that's nice whenever you're around them, hell,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: help them if you're outside going somewhere, help them walk,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: hold their hand, just to steady him. They most time
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: they can do really well, but every once in a while,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: like what happened to my patient the other day that
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: left foot, which is the numb side bumped into a
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: little lip coming in from a patio into the house
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: and didn't feel that and it threw their body with
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: the force like I've I'm just still in shock thinking
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: about it. It was so sad, hard to the floor,
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: and I mean the toe was stubbed and swollen and
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: black and blue. The knee was swollen and black and blue.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: The one arm all tore up. Luckily they were okay.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Other than that, I mean, it was just amazing, scary
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: but amazing, And it's so frustrating. This employer. They put
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: her through hell with paperwork and a lot of paperwork
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: that her doctor had to do, which is me. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: they would ask like, fill out this farm for your
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: requested leave of absence. Well that's not what she was doing.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: She never filed the claim for anything, and now they're
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: telling her her claim was denied, but she never filed
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: a claim, So I don't know what they're talking about.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: Nobody is really saying much of anything. They keep passing
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: the buck and the person that I called to update
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: them about the difficulty with balance sometimes because that would
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: be very dangerous at an office, even if somebody picked
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: her up and took her to work, and she would
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: like that she's got cabin fever and would like to
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: get out of the house once in a while and
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: go back to the office. That would have been a
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: good thing had all this not happen. But that person,
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: she thought, was a kind of like a friend, if
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: as close as you get to having friends at work,
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: I guess, And this person's a supervisor, so she thought
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: that they would be more receptive and caring, and they
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: wouldn't even take the phone call from me, but they
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: made sure they called somebody else and cried and complained
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: that I shouldn't call them. The doctor should not call
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: them because she can't do nothing. Well, I told the patient,
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: you need to write him back and tell him your
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: doctor didn't ask him to do anything. He was trying
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: to give him an update. And in the past, anytime
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: you have a company or insurance company, people like updates.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: They like to know what's going on with the patient.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: So I thought that was a good thing, and it
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: would help them to know that you don't want this
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: person falling down at work. They can't drive to get there,
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: so if you got them there somehow and they fell
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: and got hurt, they might be changing the name of
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: the company to their name, and you don't want to
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: get into that. So I give them an update helping
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: them make better decisions, and I guess they didn't want
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: to hear it because they wouldn't even talk to me,
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: and that's never happened. Usually they want to talk to
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: the doctor. So I thought we were doing good there,
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: and then the other day she hears this conversation out
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: here's it sees an email conversation saying that, yeah, she's
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: going to be working from home. They're talking about her.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: And then about a week later, here's that your claim
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: has been denied. Well, if you don't file a claim,
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know what they're talking about. And this is
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: something I don't think has ever happened to this company.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: They don't have a procedure or a policy. Everybody's just
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: passing the buck because they're all a bunch of spineless jellyfish.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: But somebody could have made a decision. All you had
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: to say was great employee number one almost every single month.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: And what they do, they're going to have to work
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: from home, which you're doing fabulously right now. It's no
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: inconvenience to anybody. And if they're worried about somebody else complaining.
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: Is somebody else want to have a stroke? I hope not.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's a horrible, horrible thing. And I'm so
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: proud of this a patient of mine that has still
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: been working and struggling, because most people would have filed
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: for disability by now, and this person wants to work
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: and likes what they do and really loves working for
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: this company. And thought the supervisor that I called today
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: was a really good person who would care. But that
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: turned out not to be true. The true colors of
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: this person came through today. Susie anything on all that.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: It's almost like they got the internal memo from a
• 46:42
  Speaker 7: lawyer to not talk to you.
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you might be right. I've never run into that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: I've had lots of patients with these problems, and usually
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: they like the information. And then today they had the nerve.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: After all the paperwork and the nightmare and faxing and
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: mailing and emailing, this guy contacts her and says, you
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: don't want to have your doctor contact this person because
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: they can't do nothing, and you might want to submit
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: more documentation. So I told her right back and tell
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: them number one, your doctor was giving them a friendly
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: update so they can make better decisions, and never asked
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: anybody to do anything and let them know that all
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: the information and paperwork concerning this stroke and this patient
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: has been submitted. So then the guy came back and said, well,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: the head of HR I'll get with her next week.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: So here we got a situation where they've never had
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: this kind of deal. They keep saying the claim's been
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: denied and that was from a third party outside of
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: their company. I mean, that's how childish this is, that
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: somebody could have just made a simple decision. This person's
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: working their butt off and doing great right where they're at.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: Why do we want to mess that up? They haven't
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: done anything to deserve that. They're doing a good job
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: for us, But instead they quickly kicked the can up
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: the field to an outside contracting firm that handles leave
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: of absences. Made no sense, None of the paperwork had
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: anything to do with the situation. And then one of
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: the things they had to nerve to say last week
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: was that somebody high up said transferred to has nothing
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: to do with your employment, but falling down they might
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: want to think about. So, I don't know, I've never
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: heard of nothing, so ridiculous, and because it's family, it
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: irritates me even more. But it would irritate me no
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: matter what, Bill, what do you think.
• 49:24
  Speaker 8: A couple of things, Well, why would you want to
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: keep looking for a company like this? And the second
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: thing is, don't you have hippo problems with calling an
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: employer about a patient? Say that again, don't you have
• 49:46
  Speaker 8: hippo problems? There's a conflict there. Don't You're talking about
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: a patient with a third party, and particularly an employer.
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: That doesn't that create some issues?
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Well, they already know I'm her doctor that she told
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: me nothing.
• 50:05
  Speaker 9: But yeah, usually whenever we've had to do things like that,
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: they were all kinds of the patient had to sign
• 50:11
  Speaker 9: a disclaimer, they had to be forwarded to the you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: all kinds of stuff that go. You just we were
• 50:17
  Speaker 9: not able to talk to and even in private practice
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: to talk if somebody's somebody's spouse called up and said
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: how is he doing or how is she doing? Uh,
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: we can't say, well, yeah, but.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: I already have her permission to deal with them. In fact,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: she's wanted it. She's never had anything like this in
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: her life, and this has really made her nervous and
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: anxious and uncomfortable because she's trying to think I'm doing
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: a really good job. I didn't ask for anything. I
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: just wanted to let them know that I can't drive,
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: and I have trouble walking, and I can work very
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: productively from the home office. That I was just giving
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: them courtesy because they mentioned they might want to bring
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: us back to an office. And what's really sad about
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: this the office that she used to work at has
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: been rented out to another company, so the old office
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: they don't have. I don't even think they know where
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: they're going to go. But it would not matter if
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: it was a few miles. She couldn't drive, and after
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: watching her, she does pretty good walking. But after the fall,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: it just brought to light that there's no way you
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: can risk being in an office that has stairs or
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: curbs or any of that stuff. And the last time
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: they had an office that was on the second floor
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: and they had to walk. So I don't know, but yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: the hip of stuff is fine because she's given permission
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: and she wants me to talk to him. But this
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: is not a case where there was an insurance claim
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: filed or any kind of a claim at all. This
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: was just merely. She heard them talking about maybe returning
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: to an office, and she thought she better let them
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: know early so they don't have to buy equipment and
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: do stuff to set her up an office or a
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: desk because she can't do that. She thought she was
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: doing something great, and she's blown away that this happened.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: She can't understand it. And I, on the other hand,
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: have worked as an electrician, and I've been in unions,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: and I've been a shop steward, and I've been the supervisor,
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: and I've negotiated contracts, I've negotiated our attended arbitrations. I've
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: owned my own office, I've had employees, so I've been
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: on all the sides of this, and I've seen a
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: lot of evil in all that time. So for me,
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: a lot of it doesn't surprise me. But this surprised
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: me because they they brag about her so much and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: then stab her in the back and tell her your
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: claims denied, which nobody knows what that means, because she
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: didn't fell out a claim for anything. She hasn't asked
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: for anything. And I tried to tell them too. They
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: didn't know this ever since they started working from home.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: The starting time is nine o'clock. Well, she goes to
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: work at seven point thirty every morning since they started
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: working from home long before the stroke. And I asked
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: one time, why are you doing that? So I just
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: like to check and see if there's anything that needs
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: my attention, get my day lined out. And I'm thinking, Wow,
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: what an employee. I mean, I said, wis had you
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: working for me in my office? So I'm at a loss.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I don't understand the evilness with this. I've never seen
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: a case because usually people that have these problems are
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: on disability and they're not trying to work. But she's
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: trying to work and doing a hell of a job.
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: They're very happy with her work, and they would have
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: never known she had a stroke if they didn't start
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: saying we're going to bring people back to an office.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Maybe so I don't know anything, guys.
• 54:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, these people, these people are they're messed up. And
• 54:55
  Speaker 7: you know what you just said, they wouldn't have even
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: known that she had a stroke, according to our productivity,
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: if they hadn't decided to, you know, bring everyone into
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: the office. That's that's a good little dinger right there.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: For a lawyer.
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're our producer mentioned that a couple of weeks ago,
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: and I looked up a special law firm in our
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: area that covers uh pretty much. I think Houston, Austin,
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Dallas maybe, uh, maybe Beaumont, and they specialize in the
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: a DA South American Disabilities Act stuff. But I, for
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: the life of me, I cannot imagine a company stupid
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: enough to tell a stroke patient that you need to
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: come to work, and knowing that a stroke patient usually
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: has disabilities and in walking, some of them really bad,
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: some of them less, and why would you want to
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: bring them and force that issue. And then on the
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: other side of that, what kind of company takes an
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: employee that they have raved about over the years, and
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: do they want to fire them because they had a stroke.
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, there's got to be a special place in
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: hell for somebody that could do that.
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: Anything.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: Bill Nope. I mean it's frustrating for me. I feel
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: very helpless because I'm the doctor and I'm part of
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: the family, and I wish I could do so much more.
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: And it's very expensive to get attorneys. They want quite
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: a bit of money just to a zoom uh consultation,
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: you know that, And I don't know how it works.
• 57:08
  Speaker 7: If they end up representing you quite Uh, there's there's
• 57:13
  Speaker 7: a few pro boo in that a da field of law.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: Well we will find.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: Well because and the problem with that is that they're
• 57:27
  Speaker 7: just gonna want to sue. They're gonna want to sue
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: for you know, a certain amount of money. Well, then
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: you tick off the company and like I, like I've
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: said before, they're gonna look for one little thing to
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: be wrong and after that retaliate would be my fear.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but see it seems like they're already doing that
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: by telling her that your claim was denied and she
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: didn't fill out a claim. That that's like a double
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: negative of craziness. But I can't figure out if they're
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: planning on firing her, telling her if you can't get
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: to work and if there's a chance that you might
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: fall down, we're going to fire you for that. I mean,
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: to me, that's absolutely crazy. But I don't know. I've
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: never run into this before. I've never had a patient
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: in all my years of doing this stuff that ran
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: into these kind of problems. Usually they would go get
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: disability or whatever and not you know, they wouldn't even
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: want to work. And I said, these people It's funny
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: that supervisor that wouldn't even take the call is the
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: one that raved about her the most, and now they're
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: acting like, we can't help you. Well, we're not asking
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: for help. All she wanted to do is is keep working.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: And all I did, I volunteered. She didn't ask me
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: to do it. I just wanted to give them an
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: update so they could think about what if she falls.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: You know, that's another thing that she had never told
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: them that because she didn't think about it. So I'm
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: just trying to make it easy for everybody that you
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: can make a good, common sense, decent decision. And I
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know what they're going to do.
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: So what is it called when you get some kind
• 59:31
  Speaker 7: of award or whatever to your company? Is it called
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: not accommodations? But I forget what it's called, you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: like a write up, you know, employee of the year
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: or whatever you want to call it. Has she gotten
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: any of those things?
• 59:51
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 59:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah? And does she have copies of those things?
• 59:56
  Speaker 3: That I don't know. I'd have to ask her, But
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I do know that she's been like number one. And
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: it's funny a lot of people go to her for
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: help and she's not even a supervisor, and she didn't
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: want to be a supervisor. She didn't want she dislikes
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: what she does, so I don't know. Well, we're at
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  Speaker 8: Thinking about what what to talk about this week, and
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  Speaker 8: he kind of came to it from from the other side.
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  Speaker 8: But essentially what I'm talking about and certainly was evident tonight,
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  Speaker 8: is stress and how how that plays out. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: we all talk about stress and all this kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 8: We're talking about gttle things. One of the things that
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  Speaker 8: we watched for with people, or we used to watch
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  Speaker 8: for it with people when they would come into an office.
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  Speaker 9: With are are they do they grind their teeth?
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  Speaker 7: You know?
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  Speaker 8: Are they clenching their jaw? This is of course not
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  Speaker 8: real healthy for any part of your devil work, whether
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  Speaker 8: it's natural or or implants or or bridges or whatever.
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  Speaker 8: Grinding your teeth is has all kinds of negatives of
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: that can come from that. And uh, again, as it's
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: primarily a symptom of stress. Well, thinking about stress, they're
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 8: essentially two kinds, and they're they're frequently blended. I don't
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: find them being separate. But you know, in physical stress
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: and stress that comes from from an illness or an injury,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: or either either one of those will cause a disruption
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: in a lifestyle, depending on the severity of the injury.
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  Speaker 8: Causes a lot of anxiety, causes a lot of what
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  Speaker 8: what am I going to do? Is like your your
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  Speaker 8: patient who had an injury, uh, cerebral injury, and it
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  Speaker 8: made a tremendous difference in what her outlook uh the
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  Speaker 8: rest of her life is how does how does that deal?
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  Speaker 8: Is that that that's a little stressful. The other the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 8: other kind of stressor that we encounter is as a
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: psycho emotional stressor that when bad things happen not necessarily
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: to you, but bad things that happen that are not
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 8: uh physically injurious or health health illness or healthcare kind
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: of stuff. But yeah, you know, things in her traumatic
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 8: old of things in our environmental And again I'm using
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: the term environmental to describe something that happens to personally,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: your own personal environment or your family environment. When something
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 8: bad happens as you're experiencing with your with your relative,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 8: you're feeling a tremendous amount of stress because of something
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: that didn't really happen to you, but happened to somebody
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: that was close to you? Is that still stressful? And
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: how does and I think the point of will is
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: is how does that? How does that play out? I
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 8: know Susan's talk about this. I'm certainly experienced that, but
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: a lot of times we're not really aware of how
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: intense the stress has become. They's built up gradually over
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: over weeks, months, sometimes years, bad relationships which can be
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 8: difficult to get out of for all kinds of reasons.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: People stay in them for a long long time that
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: they're essentially very destructive, and then personally to their personality,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 8: to their their psyche and their outlook. It's traumatic. And
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 8: remember that the German word for dream is trauma, so
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 8: it's it's a different kind of reality. When something chromatic
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 8: happens to us, it's a different one of the different
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: realities that we all experienced. But when the stress it
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: builds up and we're really not aware of it, one
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: of the you know, we begin to get to the
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 8: point where physiologically we can we can feel it. We
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: feel a lot of tension on our in our chest,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 8: our breathing is it becomes distorted. You know, We've known
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: for many many years. It stress that goes on trees.
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  Speaker 8: It can cause heart attacks, because strokes can cause all
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 8: kinds of very serious physiological results. And how do we
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 8: how do we become aware of our own stress levels
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 8: if if they haven't been very abrupt or very severe
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: over but have built up over a long period of time. Well,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: one of the primary symptoms of stress is physical exhaustion.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 8: We're too tired to do anything. We don't have energy
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 8: to take a walk. All we want to do is nothing.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 8: All we want to do is kind of sit and
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: kind of hopefully regenerate. But this is tremendous loss of energy,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: usually indicator of a fairly substantial stress level. And again
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: that that loss of energy can manifest itself and in
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 8: a physical way. We don't want to go into where
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 8: it takes. It takes too much effort to walk from
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: one end to the house to the other. It wears
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: us out. To do the dishes, I don't know does
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 8: anybody do dishes anymore? Do they all put them in
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: a dishwasher? To do housework, to do the most ordinary
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: things of our lives, we find that it is exhausting.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 8: We just we you know, we do one or two
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: things and that's basically it for the day. Okay, it
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: means stress levels pretty high tyco emotionally, the stress kind
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: of plays into depending upon the severity. Does it effect
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: our memory? Does it affect our ability to communicate? Does
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 8: it affect our ability to find some substantive enjoyment in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: our existence? Again, and this can all be so gradually.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: If it occurs over a year or two years, it's
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 8: going to be more difficult to identify them. The people
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: call it exhaustion, will call it burnout. To me, those
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: are two slightly different things falling under the general category
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: of the key stress will stress. Stress requires a tremendous
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 8: amount of energy. It takes a huge amount of energy
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: to just survive being stressed out, as we used to say,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: and not being always aware of what causes that stress,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 8: it doesn't really help things. So how do we how
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: do we begin to a understand that we're dealing with
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: a with a an amount of stress? And once again
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: is as you you talk about from your nutritional point
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 8: of view, everybody, everybody responds a little differently. Everybody is
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: a little unique, everybody has their own way of dealing
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 8: with issues. And so what what might be very stressful
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: for me, may not be stressful at all for you.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: It just depends on our experience, on what we grew
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 8: up with and how we look at things, how we
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: live in our lives. But to identify that we're dealing
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 8: with stress is often eighty percent of the battle. It's
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: so gradual and insidious that we don't often no one
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 8: except that we're just off. We don't want to do
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: stuff when it's not our usual self. How do we
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: begin to be able to backtrack and try and figure
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: out what's causing that? Why are we stressed? What basically
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 8: stress comes from a sense of powerlessness. Something has happened
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: to us. We're overwhelmed, We can't we're out of control.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: We have no control over what that situation is or was.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: If we can PenPoint.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 7: What that.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: Stress or is, if it's a personal relationship, then that
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: gives us something to work with. If it's a personal relationship,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: maybe we need to end that relationship. What's more important?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: Is it more important for us to continue in a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: really disruptive outlook or do we begin to take a
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: sense of control back and say no, I don't need
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 8: to do this. I mean, it doesn't have to be
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 8: an entire relationship that is eliminated or changed. I think
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 8: that in every relationship there are things that do we
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: like very much about another person. There are perhaps a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 8: few things that we really don't like about that person. Well,
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 8: is a relationship worth ending because of the things that
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 8: we disagree about? Sometimes it is. Sometimes the disagreements are
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: so profound. If there's no saving, there's no salvation to
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: the relationship, there's no saving the relationship. That's one of
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 8: the ways that we handle stressors. Another way is to
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: a great believer in denial. It's just you know, and
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: I know I've talked to this. I had a friend
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: a number of years ago. He's gone now, but there
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: were a couple of things that we were very deeply
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: disagree about, deeply disagree about it, and we've learned simply
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: not talk about those. So denial is not always a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 8: bad thing. If in this case, a relationship had so
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: much more to offer than to end, and over a
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 8: substantial disagreement about something that nobody's going to change your
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 8: mind anyway. So what do you want to do? You
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 8: want to end your relationship, you want to continue being
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 8: friends that continue this friendship, and again that's it. But
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 8: it comes back that I've as I said, to take
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 8: control and not be so reactive to a situation with
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 8: a physical injury as as your patient. There's there's a
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 8: chance that things may not change. There's always no matter
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: what that injury is, what the illness is that it
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 8: may have been, it may be so severe that there's
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 8: no there's no option. I'm stuck with this, you know,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: I've I've lost a limb in a car accident. I
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 8: can't have it grow back by by wishing it. What
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 8: am I going to do? What am I going to do?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 8: My choices are if it's sage enough to or to
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: continue living, or and if so, okay, what what do
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 8: I need to do? Or if I don't want to
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: continue living.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: What do I need to do?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 8: But it's it's getting rid of that feeling of being overwhelmed,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 8: of not having any sense of control over what's happening
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 8: to us or how we're reacting to things. It's part
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: of the very difficult part of being stressed out. And
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 8: I think that as having watched a lot of people
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 8: over the years try and deal with this, that they're
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 8: there is often a reluctance to do to do the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 8: hard headwork here and figure out really what's the stress
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: or what is causing all of this. You know, if
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 8: it's a spouse and there's there doesn't seem to be
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: any indication that there's that the relationship or their perspectives
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 8: are going to change. Yeah they have, they don't want
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: to put up with it rather than they go through
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 8: all the disruption of the split up. You're okay, that's
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 8: a choice, but but at least you've made a choice
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: about that. And and I think by having made that decision,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: you've created at least the impression of a sense of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: self control again, of having made a choice to stay
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: in an unpleasant relationship because the alternatives are more unpleasant.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: It's a can't a processes of not responding so emotionally
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 8: to situations and realizing that, you know, kind of as
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: you were indicating den it was, it's up to you.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 8: You know, what do we do here? What we how
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: do we deal with this? How am I going to
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 8: deal with this? Because ultimately how I deal with it
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: is my choice. I can get all kinds of advice
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 8: about stuff, but nobody really understands my situation as much
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 8: as I do, unless they've known me all their life,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 8: Unless they were unless they were me and have had
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 8: that experiential basis or my outlook. So one of the
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 8: things about offering advice is is that the advisor needs
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 8: to be perfectly comfortable with having his advice not taken.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 8: You know, we're, as therapist says, as chiropractors were given
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 8: so much information, but only so much. We're not given everything,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: and it takes a long time to fill out the
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: staving at points. Well, yeah, we're trained how to do that,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: and we hopefully do it occasionally, but ultimately it's the
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 8: individual's responsibility to decide, Okay, this is where I am,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 8: these are my options, this is what I'm going to do?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 8: How do I get my control back? And so the
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 8: response to being stressed is to take take your life back,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 8: take your control back. It wasn't that it was taken
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 8: from us. We just kind of gave it up gradually.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 8: We may not even have known that we were giving
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 8: it up, but we lost it. My god, it's mine.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: I can take it back if I want to take
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 8: a little work, But what are my options? And are
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 8: my options things that I can live with? Am I
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 8: going to be comfortable? So anyway, that kind of gets
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 8: into fatigue and emotional and physical fatigue as resulting from stress.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 8: So stress is kind of a gateway what I call
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 8: a gateway disorder. It's kind of like the pressure is
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 8: the gateway disorder for anxiety, and both of those are
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: gateway disorders for perhaps more substantial psychological disorders pronoia or
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 8: any of that group. One thing leads to another and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 8: if we can can short stop it, we save ourselves
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: a lot of grief. But as my dad used to
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 8: say in at Easy the game, uh, which comes from
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 8: the old Shiver McGee and mulley radio shows, and Mulley
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 8: used to tell, oh, shiver it yep a eight easy McGee,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 8: get on with it. Hey, there you go.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: Well it's always very interesting, good stuff. I think that's
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: a good goal to get your life back and not
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: let other people control things. Pretty interesting, cisy anything.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah, uh, I've had to do that quite a few
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 7: times in my life. I think the first thing is
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: recognizing what exactly it is, and then from there you
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 7: can make decisions and sometimes they're they seem hard at
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 7: the time, and then time shows whether you were right
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 7: or whether you were wrong in your decision. M hm.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 8: You know, it's interesting you put it that way because
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 8: I've I've said for many years and I certainly never
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: practiced this a whole lot. But I don't think there
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: that there are wrong decisions. I think they are learning opportunities,
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 8: and there when we make when we make bad choices
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 8: about this, when we make wrong decisions, I think it's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 8: a chance to say, well, oh that wasn't a good idea,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 8: Let's try something else right, and and to move on.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 8: I I you know, it's too easy to get stuck
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 8: in having screwed up, and a lot of folks do.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 8: There's certainly been times in my life and I've just
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 8: kind of kind of relished having screwed up. It's convinced
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 8: me that I'm still human. But it's not real productive,
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 8: you know, And how do we how do we take
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 8: take an experience it didn't work on, how do we
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 8: turn that around into something positive and say, well, I
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 8: ain't going there again. It's an important that's a good point.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 8: I think that you you know, you kind of drifted
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 8: into that sideways, but it's it's an important thing to
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 8: understand that if you know, if we make a decision
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 8: it isn't working out right, we don't have to stay there,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 8: and we can make another one. We can screw it
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 8: up worse, we can do all kinds of things. But
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 8: we were not stuck, and we can. I think we've
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 8: all we've all got the capability to move ahead. And
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 8: that's again a very individualistic process, but it's it's one
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 8: that I don't think we should ever forget. We can,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 8: we can make changes and we can we can't move on.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 8: We can become complete.
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 7: Makes me think about my mother. She had this saying,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: amongst many that was, well, let me back up, preface
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: it with I know I do I overthink things, yes,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: and you know sometimes they can, they can get you
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 7: in trouble. But my mother's saying was, keep keep it simple, stupid.
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 8: Yep, yep, the old kiss routine. Keep it simple, stupid.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 3: Can you imagine being in the same room with Susie
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: and her mom, h I would enjoy that, it would
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: be it would be interesting.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 7: Later later in life we could we could butt heads. Uh,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 7: I would. I wouldn't say later in life. I'd say
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 7: probably about forties.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: I was like years old.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 7: No, no, I was a perfect little child. I was
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: told that I like to touch things in the store,
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 7: and I got my little hands spanked a few times,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 7: so touch that. And so my mother would tell the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 7: story where I would walk up to something and I
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 7: would hold my finger real close up to my side
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 7: and I would point and I would say, oh pretty,
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: and then I would say, don't touch, Snoozie, don't touch.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 7: So I'd be telling myself, but I would I don't know,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 7: probably somewhere between thirty five and I wasn't even forty yet.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 7: Around thirty five thirty six, we hadn't moved down here,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 7: and you know, I wanted to raise my kids my way.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 7: And she had come down here to visit from Dallas,
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 7: Carrollton actually, and so we went to go pick up
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 7: the kids from school. It was like a Friday, and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 7: they knew she was coming, and they had this thing,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: you know, if we act up, she's not gonna do
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 7: anything in front of Grandma Pete ha ha, hide and watch.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 7: And so I'm in my mother's car, driving in her
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: little convertible, and so we're heading to our house and
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 7: they start arguing in the backyard. I mean the back seat.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 7: I've got a sixth grader. Now I've got a fifth
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 7: grader and a sophomore, and I tell him, y'all cut
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: it out, and I look in the rearview mirror to
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 7: give them the Mama look, because I know they know
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 7: when I get quiet when I'm driving, look in the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: rear view maryor to see my face. Well then my
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 7: mother tells me, Siddy, they're just being kids. You don't
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: need to get onto them. And I remember saying, they're
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 7: my kids, I will raise them. Well, I just don't
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 7: think that you need to be talking to them like that.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 7: And I said, well, I don't think you need to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 7: be talking to me like this and telling me how
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 7: to be a mother. And she said, well, let me
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 7: out of the car and we're on the highway. Well
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 7: it's a rural highway, too lane. I pulled her car
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: over to the side of the road and said get out.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 7: Well she didn't, and I didn't make her. But what
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: was funny was that, in a roundabout way, this straightened
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: my kids up and they were sitting up straight, bug eyed, going,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 7: oh my gosh. Grandma Peggy said let me out, and
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 7: Mama pulled over to let her out. So then we
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 7: all laugh. But that's who raised me. Now, y'all got
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 7: a little hint on it.
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 3: That's that doesn't even surprise me. That doesn't even surprise me.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: I bet you too, were you were really a pair.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: I don't think it matters how old we are, but
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 8: our parents are still learning how to be parents.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: I don't think the process ever stops. You know, it
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 8: don't matter one hundred you're still trying to figure it out.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 7: Well, yeah, you're you change. Yep, you know, I'm not.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 7: I'm not eight years old anymore. I'm thirty five or
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 7: thirty six. I've got my own kids that are older
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 7: than that, so you have to it's a venutia. It's
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 7: like I'm the daughter, she's the mother. I've got kids,
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: but don't tell me how to raise my kids, and
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 7: don't talk to me like I'm your daughter and I
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 7: shouldn't be talking to my mother like that. So it's
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 7: an interesting it's an interesting phenomenon.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: It would have made for a good TV show.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 7: Oh no, they wouldn't have bear that.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: I was watching the other day Sandford and Son. They
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: were showing some clips and the stuff they did back
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: then they wouldn't allow him to do today. I'm sure
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: the lefties would have ruined it. But it was funny stuff.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Married with children, Sandford.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 8: And son and.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 7: All in the family.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they had never made it today, but they were
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: so funny. And you look back at Fred Sandford. I
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: remember he was talking to that lady. I don't know
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: her name, but he didn't like her, and she was
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: giving him a hard time and he said, I'm about
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: to give you exorcism and she said, you silly old man,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 3: what are you talking about. He said, I'm about to
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 3: beat the devil out of you. They would have never
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: talked that way, and the lefties would have went crazy,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: especially Archie Bunker, Oh my god, calling his son in
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 3: law meeting.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 7: He still is a meathead.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: And and Al Bundy. Al Bundy told his kids one
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 3: time he's getting up to go fishing, and he said,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 3: when your mother wakes up, and you know she will
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, right, put you out inside the road. So this
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• 1:34:53
  Speaker 7: little bit of rum balls. That's a Actually, I think
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  Speaker 7: I have that recipe in a newspaper clipping that my
• 1:35:06
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  Speaker 7: that when it gets closer to Christmas. That's a Christmas
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 7: tradition around here. So thinking about this, and you said,
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  Speaker 7: hopefully it has alcohol in it, there is rum in rumballs.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 7: You could use extract, but we never did. You know,
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  Speaker 7: if you want it to be kid friendly, you could
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 7: use extract, but when you heat it, you're going to
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 7: cook off the alcohol. So in this case you're not
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 7: cooking anything, so that would probably be like an adult treat,
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  Speaker 7: not for kids.
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  Speaker 7: Proper credit because I think she's worth tons of money
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 7: and she has probably more lawyers than me. Pioneer woman
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 7: recipe and so pretty simple. A cup of pecans and
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 7: chopped and then one cup of Graham cracker crumbs, and
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 7: I've gotten that organic at natural grocers. I think Annie's
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 7: has a brand. You have to be careful with Andy's,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 7: especially in their frozen meals. They'll have canola oil, but
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 7: so far they're graham crackers. My husband likes and we
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 7: keep them on hand. So that's why this is so
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 7: much like a rumball, but it's not cooked. Half a
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 7: cup of powdered sugar. Now you can get organic powdered sugar.
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 7: To me, sugar is sugar, and I don't I don't
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 7: want it, I don't need it. You could use half
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 7: a cup, maybe a little bit more of ayu lo's.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 7: I know we've talked about this a few weeks ago.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 7: I don't see the harm in it being derived from
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 7: figs and kiwi and I forget the other fruits. But
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 7: this wouldn't be a DOC friendly recipe if you used
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: half a cup of powdered monk fruit. But organic powdered
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: sugars out there for folks that don't have an issue,
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: and it's a half a cup, so half a cup
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 7: of unsweetened cocoa. I tend to go with I tend
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 7: to I always go with the organic. I never go
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: with Hershey, I don't like the company, their policies, their politics,
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 7: or the ingredients that they expose us to. Half a
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 7: cup of unsalted butter, just softened you don't want to
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 7: melt it, and a quarter of a cup of maple syrup,
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 7: a teaspoon of vanilla, quarter teaspoon of salt, and then
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 7: you'll need a cup of semi sweet chocolate chips. I
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 7: like to use lily. There's you know, some other good
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 7: ones out there that use cane sugar and non gmo
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 7: and then just a little extra chopped pecans for garnish
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 7: if you wanted to do that. So so basically you're
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 7: mixing everything together. Well, you want you want to whisk
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 7: together your your chopped pecans and your grain cracker crumbs,
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 7: powdered sugar and cocoa pattern and salt, and then just
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 7: make sure you've got that all put together. It says
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 7: a separate bowl. I see no reason for that. Your butter,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 7: your maple syrup, and your vanilla, and of course it
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 7: says you know, then you combine these. You can use
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 7: a wooden spoon, a hand mixer. I think it's just
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 7: gonna get clocked in the in the beaters. Just use
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 7: a wooden spoon or spatula. So then you're going to
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 7: uh mix this. It's gonna until it's combined well, and
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: it should be uh really, it should be thick and
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 7: just slightly sticky if it feels too dry, you know,
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 7: add you know a little more maple syrup a teaspoon
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 7: or half a teaspoon at a time until you get
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: it to the consistency that you won't and then you're
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 7: going to place this in the fridge for like thirty minutes.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 7: Just cover it with some plastic wrap and it helps
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 7: it to firm up, because then you're gonna make you're
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: gonna make the balls. Take it out of the fridge
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: and you can use your hands. You can use a scoop.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 7: A scoop that holds about a tablespoon would be perfect.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 7: And then you're just gonna roll these little balls, set
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 7: them aside, you know, on a parchment paper. Then after
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 7: you get all of those done, you're gonna want to
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 7: and just so you know, you're gonna end up with
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 7: about twenty or twenty five of these. Now, let me
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 7: back up. If you did want to add the run
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 7: before you added more or additional maple syrup, would be
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 7: the time, because you don't want this to be too thin.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 7: And that's just an option. I'm going out there. It's
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 7: kind of fine for the holidays, and so you're going
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 7: to put these little balls in the refrigerator, So put
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 7: them on a cookie sheet with your your parchment paper.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 7: Then you're going to and here's one of the things
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 7: we don't like number one. We don't like buying good,
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 7: expensive chocolate chips, and you could use dark chocolate that's
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 7: even healthier for you. But this recipe says has the
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: nerve to say, you know, put your expensive chocolate, healthy
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 7: chocolate in the microwave to melt it. It's you can
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 7: take a saucepan and put water in it and then
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 7: put a glass bowl. If you have a double boiler,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 7: go for it. I've never bought one because I don't
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 7: see I don't have the need. Stained steel saucepan, a
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 7: glass bowl that fits over the over it nicely, like
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 7: on the edge. You'll want it to sink down in.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 7: You don't want it to get you know, steam in there,
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 7: which adds moisture. And have the water just touch the
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 7: bottom of your boat and put your chocolate chips in there,
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 7: whichever you want, milk, chocolate or dark. Let that melt.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 7: By the time that's done, it's not gonna take thirty
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 7: minutes to melt, but about fifteen minutes through. Your little
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: pecan balls sitting in the fridge, you could start to
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 7: start your chocolate. So pull those out of the fridge,
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 7: I say, stick a toothpick in them, and then you
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 7: can kind of roll them around in that chocolate and
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 7: then put it back onto your parchment paper if you want,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 7: you could put like it suggests, some additional chopped pecans
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 7: while that chocolate is still wet, or more and more
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 7: companies are coming out with natural, naturally colored sprinkles. You know,
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 7: you could do that instead of pecans, you could do coconut.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 7: So there's variations to what you could do with this recipe.
• 1:44:01
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• 1:44:10
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• 1:44:12
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• 1:44:47
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• 1:44:53
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, now that you made me feel bad for
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 3: drinking as a kid. You know, it's funny. All of Europe,
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 3: everybody drinks, They drink wine at all the meals and
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 3: nobody thinks about that. But in this country, for some reason,
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 3: we decided all that was bad, and I think that's
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 3: why they had a lot of problems with people drinking,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: because you made it something terrible, so people started doing
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: it because it was treated like it was bad and
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: then they had to sneak it. But in Europe, I
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: didn't see any of that. Everybody drank wine, and I'm
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 3: not much of a wine person.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 8: But they.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 3: All drank things like in I think it was Greece.
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 3: Where is it uzzo? It's like a little shot, tastes
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: like licorice a little bit, but everybody had something they drink.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: What did you say, No, anis is made from Anish? Yeah.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 7: German kids drank beer when we lived over there.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 3: Well, part of my family was German and part of
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 3: it was Scottish and Irish and all that. And I
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 3: remember as a kid they had this ceramic cag and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 3: they made beer ever since I was a little kid,
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 3: and we always were giving little tastes of stuff growing up,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 3: so it didn't didn't think much about it. My grandfather's
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 3: side of the family I think was from Scotland, because
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 3: I remember my mom telling me a whole bunch of
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 3: Scottish families would go visit down in Van Buren, Missouri,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 3: where they grew up. So I guess because his uh,
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: his name was Hill, so I guess that's Scottish. I
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 3: don't know, but everybody was used to drinking and we
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 3: didn't turn out too screwed up. I think everybody in
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 3: those days. Everybody smoked in the house, so you breathe
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 3: the cigarette smoke. You started out drinking early and we
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 3: all survived. We drink out of the water hose. Oh
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 3: my god, you did that today, you'd probably die in
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 3: the yard. I still think every time they I remember
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: that letter telling me that don't drink the water, but
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 3: we're building you anyway, terrible.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 8: Don't drink the water. It's kind of like dodat the
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 8: yellow snow.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Susie, that recipe sounded good to tell. You
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 3: said something I heard. You cussed. You said something about Munkford.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 7: That's sinful, just giving people options.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 3: But you know, I think you're probably right. If I
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 3: would have tried it more, you'll probably get where you
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: adjust to it like it. You're used to it. You've
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 3: probably been using it for so long you don't think
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 3: anything about it.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't, I don't have an aftertaste.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that in the kale. I love that
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 3: line where the guy said, you put a lot of
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 3: oil in with your kale so it slips smoothly into
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 3: the trush can.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, if you're gonna do that, then't waster your bacon grease.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I love the uh Brussels sprouts sautee and
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: butter and garlic and sea salt. But you're you're not
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 3: a fan of them, but you like the kale, So.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 8: I have to have the.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 7: Brussels sprouts so covered in well, actually my favorite. If
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna well, you know, it's kind of wrong to
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 7: take such a nice expensive sheet He's like good yere
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 7: and put it on Brussels sprouts. But you know that's
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 7: that's an expensive cheese. And if I if I were
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: to do, you know, like a Brussels sprouts for the holidays,
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 7: it would definitely have bacon, garlic, butter and goodiere cheese.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 7: And by this time, by that time, you don't even
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 7: know there's Brussels sprouts in it.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. How about you, Bill, you like Brussels sprouts or kale?
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I've always liked Brussels sprouts and uh kale was
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 8: sort of a recent addition, uh to my childhood. But yeah,
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: it's okay, Yeah, russell sprouts.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 3: I love now okra. I've grown okra, and I'm not
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: really sure why because unless it was fried like the
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: like the Brussels sprouts, I didn't care far too much,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 3: but a lot of people do. And I remember the
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 3: okra growing like a tree.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah down there with all the humidity, I wish I
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 7: had that kind of well, the heat and the humidity.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 3: I would be glad to send you the heat and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 3: the humidity.
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 7: I don't want it. I'm just glad it's cool and off.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 7: I was up at six this morning and I went
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 7: outside and it was almost chilly and the sun wasn't up.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 3: Yet, and.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 7: I'm nice, had a cup of coffee. But okra, there's
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: only my dad used to love stewed okra, which meant
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 7: with tomatoes, and that was so nasty. And my son
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 7: is a weirdo and he looks pickled okra and that's nasty.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 7: When I grew it, I kid you not. I will
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 7: make him two or three jars of pickled okra, but
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: the rest of it, and this is just a hint
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: for anyone who wants to put it up in their freezer.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 7: I put organic non GMO corn meal, salt, pepper, maybe
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 7: a little bit of cayenne pepper, and a baggy. Then
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 7: I cut my okra. And of course they always say,
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 7: don't wash it because it gets gummy. Well I wanted
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 7: to get gummy because I want it to be coated
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 7: in the corn meal, and so I just dump it
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 7: in a gallon baggy and shake it up, put it
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 7: in the fridge the next day. Well, if you've grown okra,
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 7: you know you're picking okra the next day and the
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 7: next day and the next day. If you don't, they're
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 7: two feet long and you could kill an intruder with them.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 7: And so that's the way I put up okra and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 7: put it in the baggy with cornmeal.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 3: You like okreville.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 8: If it's uh, yeah, I don't like it stewed, because.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: There is.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 8: An Irish poet who described a dish from Ireland. But
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 8: I think it's apropos to ochre did it? It looks
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 8: like snot.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 7: Yes, Susie.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: When they say like all of our grandmothers used to
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 3: do because they didn't have refrigeration when they say they're canning,
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 3: Are they pickling or is that a different procedure.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 7: That's different, that's pickling you're you're going to have, or
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 7: it can be the same because when you put up
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 7: your pickles, you put you put your cucumbers however you
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 7: want them, in Hamburger slices or you know, whole or spears,
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 7: and you stuff a jar with it tightly, and then
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 7: you've got the hot liquid, water, pickling spices, salt well,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 7: and also you could add, you know, a couple of
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 7: clothes of garlic, You could add sprigs of deal. You
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 7: could add you know, some pickling. Well, it depends on
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 7: what you're pickling. And I haven't done pickles in so
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 7: so long, so I haven't looked at it. But you
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 7: pour that hot liquid into your jars, and then you
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 7: put your sterilized caps on top, then your rings, and
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 7: then you sit and wait for that pop.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that, you know what I've noticed. I
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 3: like traditional pickle flavoring better than I do the fermented pickles.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 3: But I love the fermented juice. I haven't quite figured
• 1:54:17
  Speaker 3: that out because I love all that all of my
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 3: pickled juice. I've got one of every kind, and I
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 3: drink some every single day. But some of the pickles
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: don't taste as good to me as a regular deal pickle,
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 3: or a bread and butter pickle or Hamburger slices, that
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 3: kind of thing.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 7: Maybe it's the texture. I don't think every single vegetable
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 7: or fruit ferments well, like we wouldn't want to fermanent strawberries.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 7: I mean maybe if you were going to make like
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: a jam.
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't sound good. I just noticed that I
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 3: liked the juice, you know, the all of my pickles,
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: all the juices, I love them. But the taste of
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: the pickles, it's okay, but it's not to me as
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 3: good as the other kind of pickles. And I'm not sure,
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 3: I guess just me.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 7: So there's this I don't know if you remember or
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 7: ever watched that series Swamp People. So I was flipping
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 7: through YouTube and I saw this one guy. He's really,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 7: really really Louisiana. He's the definition and I had to
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 7: watch this show. It's like fifteen minutes or less. And
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 7: he made pine needle sprite and he said that his
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 7: grandmother taught him and they used to make it when
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 7: they were kids, and they walked around and they picked
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: this long, long leaf, you know, long needles washed in
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 7: his his words, where you don't want no bugs in
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: your sprite, and cut the ends off that are sticky,
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 7: and then they're these these pine needles were so long
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 7: that they had that. He cut him in half and
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 7: then put him in a quart jar, and he put
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 7: like five tablespoons of sugar in it, filled it with water,
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 7: put the lid on it, and in five days he
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 7: had what he called sprite's and it was fermnted fermented
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 7: pine needles.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: Interesting. Interesting, Well, well it's already that time of the night. Bill.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 3: Do you have any special kind of food that you
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: really like that you have a head in a long time?
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 8: Mm hmm, oh, not especially, as I said some time ago,
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 8: I like I especially like farm food, and I don't
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 8: much like a fancy food. Well, way too much work
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 8: to go true. But I had an interesting recipe and
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 8: I'm going to try that in the next match of chili.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 8: I make about putting chocolate in it semi either either
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 8: like a tablespoon in a in a crock bottle, you know,
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 8: a good sized cockp a tablespoon of semi sweet or
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 8: bitter chocolate. You can't identify the taste of the chocolate
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 8: in a chili, but it brings out the flavor in
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 8: all the spices that you put in it.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 3: Interesting.
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 8: That's kind of an interesting idea. So I think I'm
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 8: going to try and see how that flies.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 7: If you can find if you can find Haaso t
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 7: a z O, I've seen that nance Grocer's has it.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 7: It's a Mexican chocolate and it's absolulutely perfect for what
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 7: you're talking.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 3: Sounds good. I gotta try that. I gotta try that. Yeah, guys,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 3: I guess that time, Susie. Anything you want to close with?
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: I think I interrupted you there.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 7: I was just gonna say, he's right for a big pot,
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 7: you know, Dutch oven whatever, A tablespoon of chocolate. That's
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 7: that's plenty.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 3: Sounds good. Anything you want to close with before we
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: wrap it up?
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 7: Nope, Bill, Yeah, I.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 8: Was unsuccessful at trying to remember a couple of jokes
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 8: about rumbles.
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 3: And Susie said that I get stuff from the dark web. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: All right, guys, Well, great show. Glad to have you back, Bill,
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  Speaker 3: Glad the whole team's here. I still say last week
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  Speaker 3: my back was killing me, and somehow I got through
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  Speaker 3: the show, and it was hurting a lot, but I
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  Speaker 3: felt better doing the show. So I think there's something
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  Speaker 3: therapeutic to what we do.
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  Speaker 8: I hope, because I know it works on us sitting down.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm trying to work on the pump bringing the
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  Speaker 3: Scotch in here during the show so I don't have
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  Speaker 3: to struggle. But anyway, it is that time, ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: where we thank you for tuning in. We've got nine
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  Speaker 3: or ten nations that are listening, not counting the United States,
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  Speaker 3: so we got people all around the world, and we're
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  Speaker 3: very happy and humbled, and we have a great team
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  Speaker 3: here and I know you love them as much as
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  Speaker 3: I do, and without them, the show would not be
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  Speaker 3: the same. So I'm so grateful for what we've got
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  Speaker 3: and it's just fun. So May God bless you all
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  Speaker 3: with health and happiness and keep your lives peaceful, free
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  Speaker 3: and safe. And as you know, it is time for
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  Speaker 3: good scotch, good cigars, and good night.
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  Speaker 8: Good night all.
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  Speaker 7: You're not anyone, God bless.
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  Speaker 5: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
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  Speaker 5: destructive kind. I guess that's why now I feel so
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  Speaker 5: old before my time. Yesterday when I was young. The
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  Speaker 5: taste of life was sweet as rain upon my tongue.
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  Speaker 5: I teased at length, as if it were a foolish game,
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  Speaker 5: the way the even breeze.
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  Speaker 3: May tease a candle flame.
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  Speaker 5: The thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things I planned.
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  Speaker 5: I always built to last on weakened, shifting sand. I
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  Speaker 5: lived by night and shunned the naked light of day.
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  Speaker 5: And only now I see how the years ran away.
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  Speaker 5: Yesterday when I was young, and so many happy songs
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  Speaker 5: were waiting to be