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Ian Furness 9/22 H1: Trade Drew Lock??? Cougs Talking Cougs with Alex Brink and Mkristo Bruce and more trade nonsense talk. · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 2: first of all, I'm just trying to still wrap my
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  Speaker 2: arms around the whole question that Greg asked. Would I
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  Speaker 2: play Darnold's? This weekend, if he's 100% healthy, and I
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  Speaker 2: think you go with Locke if you can. I guess
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  Speaker 2: if he's 100%, what does it matter? Right? Like if
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  Speaker 2: you're 100% healthy. Yeah. Does an extra week matter if
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  Speaker 2: you're 100% healthy?
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  Speaker 5: But I think the chances that he's 100% healthy are not.
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  Speaker 2: Probably not good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, not good. Briefly about this, we talked about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 5: Why play him? Locke's doing a good job. You're playing
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  Speaker 5: against the commanders who I think your leaps and bounds
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  Speaker 5: better than.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: And they're playing without, I mean, it's going to be
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  Speaker 5: all about your defense. They're playing without Jayden Daniels anyway.
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  Speaker 5: So your defense is going to crush it.
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  Speaker 2: No Jayden Daniels and probably two missing, two starting offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I say no.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree. You're playing a desperate team. That's
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  Speaker 2: always a little scary in the NFL. The margin of
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  Speaker 2: victory is always slim. But I think we saw last
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  Speaker 2: night again, same thing. Like not all backup quarterbacks are
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  Speaker 2: created the same. And a lot of these backup quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: you just can't, you're almost non-competitive. Yeah. Right?
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  Speaker 5: That's what it seemed like last night.
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  Speaker 2: It felt that way. I mean, you know, when Sam
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  Speaker 2: went in against the Patriots, it was a slow start
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  Speaker 2: before he got going. And they were, frankly, if we're
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  Speaker 2: being honest, when Drew Locke did, if we're being honest,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it helped that Drake May was Drake May
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  Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Like, let's be honest. But yeah, now that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Drew Locke's got his skis underneath him, he looks pretty
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  Speaker 2: damn good. You go with that.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the part about trading him is I just can't even–
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what context it was. I just kind
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  Speaker 2: of cruised through a little bit of social media here
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  Speaker 2: for a second. So I don't know what context it was.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just say in a general sense, no.
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  Speaker 5: I scrolled right past it, honestly. I saw it, and
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  Speaker 5: I was like not even answering that because I can't.
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  Speaker 5: I just can't. I will say this, though, about Darnold playing.
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  Speaker 5: It's a long season, right? I mean, even if he's healthy,
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  Speaker 5: give him a little bit more rest.
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  Speaker 2: Why not?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. What?
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  Speaker 5: 14 more games after that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 15 left to go, two weeks in. And again,
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing about moving on from Drew Locke, here's
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  Speaker 2: the thing. There's two parts about that. One, I just
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  Speaker 2: went through the list. Darnold, Williams, Dart, Daniels, Murray, and Tua.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are all hurt. And I'd probably add Penix in there, too,
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  Speaker 2: with Tua slash.
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  Speaker 3: Penix, right?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think he's 100%.
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  Speaker 2: No, they're going to force him out of the field Thursday.
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  Speaker 2: You are going to play because we are terrible. But
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  Speaker 2: you have all those guys hurt and banged up. Hell,
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  Speaker 2: I'm surprised. Now, listen, it may not matter, but the
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  Speaker 2: shot that Aaron Rodgers took on that fumble that turned
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  Speaker 2: into the fourth and 43 the other day, how he
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  Speaker 2: got up from that was remarkable. It's all the ayahuasca.
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  Speaker 3: It must be. Weirdo.
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  Speaker 2: But the whole situation with the quarterback and how important
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  Speaker 2: he is, and if you have... An insurance policy, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what a good backup quarterback is. He's just your
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  Speaker 2: insurance policy. If you have a good insurance policy, why
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  Speaker 2: would you just decide that you're going to cancel that
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  Speaker 2: in policy?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: For something down the road, i.e., and I guess the random,
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  Speaker 2: Greg said it's like second or third.
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  Speaker 3: What? No.
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  Speaker 5: No.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even, I mean, I guess first-round picks are
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  Speaker 2: so coveted at times, depending on where they are. Now,
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  Speaker 2: here's again, depending on where they are. Even for a
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  Speaker 2: first-round pick, this is a win-now mode. You have a
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  Speaker 2: chance to go back-to-back. And with the exception of New
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  Speaker 2: England and Kansas City, it hasn't been done in the
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  Speaker 2: modern era. It just doesn't happen. You have a chance
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  Speaker 2: to go back-to-back. You don't have a chance to go
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  Speaker 2: back-to-back if you lose both Darnold and Locke at some point. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That chance comes to an end. So I'll do respect
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  Speaker 2: to Jalen Milrow. It just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And the problem, the other side of it, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: get into it too much with Greg, the other side
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  Speaker 2: of it I mentioned, I think it's a great sports
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  Speaker 2: radio topic. Good job in the morning, guys. Great topic,
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  Speaker 2: fun topic, because now I'm talking about it. So, well done.
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  Speaker 3: You did your job.
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  Speaker 2: Finally.
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  Speaker 3: Finally. But.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is, on the other side, who do you
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  Speaker 2: move him to? Okay, the Giants are now looking for
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  Speaker 2: a quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he's not going back there.
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  Speaker 5: No, he's already been there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't Geno going back to the Jets. No. Last chance.
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  Speaker 5: He doesn't need a happy reunion.
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  Speaker 2: Geno's going back to the Jets. It's last chance you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That's what that was.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But let's just say it's an NFC team. Well, the
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  Speaker 2: division you're in, Seattle, and they know this, the division
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  Speaker 2: you're in is arguably the toughest one in the NFL.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't win the division, then you're thinking certainly
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  Speaker 2: about a wildcard spot. And if you trade Drew Locke
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  Speaker 2: to someone, more than likely, I mean, you've got half
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  Speaker 2: the league you can look at because if you trade
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  Speaker 2: him to an NFC team, it's an NFC team that's
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  Speaker 2: probably thinking about the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then maybe you're competing with them for a wildcard spot.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you try to help them out?
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense.
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  Speaker 2: It's one thing if you release a guy. Right. Like
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  Speaker 2: you release guys and guys like the Cody White thing
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  Speaker 2: people are having, you know, oh my God, look at
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  Speaker 2: Cody White.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Good for him.
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  Speaker 5: If you release him, you can't control where he goes.
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  Speaker 2: And trust me, I think they'd like, they want to
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  Speaker 2: have Cody White on the roster right now. They thought
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  Speaker 2: they could slip that one through. They forgot. I joke.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't forget, but here's the problem. Oh, Clint Kubiak
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  Speaker 2: was with the Raiders.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, he's aware of Cody White's skills.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's got three ex-Seahawks on his team just
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  Speaker 2: from the cut-down time. So, yeah, you have to worry
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  Speaker 2: about you, and you have to worry about today. And
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  Speaker 2: I think the one thing we've seen with John Schneider
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  Speaker 2: over the years, Ash, is that he does worry about today.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just go back. There were a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in this city that didn't like the trade for Leonard Williams.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of people that didn't. Yeah. There are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people that do sports radio or used
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  Speaker 2: to do sports radio or other people now that's still
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  Speaker 2: in the media here. And they did not like that
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  Speaker 2: trade because, well, I mean, are they a Super Bowl
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  Speaker 2: contender right now? Should they have made that move? I
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  Speaker 2: think it was a second round pick, whatever it was. Like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Like, it just doesn't make
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  Speaker 2: any sense. Does it make sense now?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, actually.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: So, like.
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  Speaker 5: And even anytime we're trading a draft pick, I trust
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  Speaker 5: those guys.
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  Speaker 2: And when Schneider made that move, his thought process wasn't, well,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully in three years with a new head coach who's
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  Speaker 2: a defensive-minded guy that Leonard Williams would be a stud.
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  Speaker 2: His thought was, no, we're getting the damn playoffs right
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  Speaker 2: now today. We need help up front, and we're going
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  Speaker 2: to get to the playoffs. We're going to get Leonard
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  Speaker 2: Williams today. He's going to be a free agent. Our
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  Speaker 2: plan would be to re-sign him. Same as Ernest Jones
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  Speaker 2: when they picked him up mid-season, right? The way John
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  Speaker 2: Schneider's thought process is, it is win now today. Today.
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  Speaker 2: That's why they ended up going into draft weekend last
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  Speaker 2: year with next to nothing in terms of draft capital. Now, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: they changed that. But they didn't win today. We did
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  Speaker 2: not care.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: I think, too, in a situation with the idea of
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  Speaker 5: trading Drew Locke, I mean, what helps you win today?
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  Speaker 5: Having a solid backup. And as we mentioned earlier, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you saw what happens when some teams go to their backup.
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  Speaker 5: It isn't good. So we got a text that says
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  Speaker 5: it would be clinically insane to not trade Locke for
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  Speaker 5: a first or second round pick. Well, first of all,
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  Speaker 5: you're not getting a first round pick.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, stop it.
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  Speaker 5: And second of all. So if you trade Locke, your
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  Speaker 5: backup is Jalen Milrow. And if Sam Darnold goes down,
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  Speaker 5: because we've seen how fragile football players can be, right?
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  Speaker 5: Sam Darnold is out in the fifth play of the
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  Speaker 5: start of the season.
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  Speaker 2: And a weird play at that, Ash. Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: So a freak play. So all of a sudden, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you saw what... I mean, Caleb Williams almost died in
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  Speaker 5: the fourth quarter the other game, apparently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Godspeed. He's okay now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank goodness.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we were all worried about him.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean, you.
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  Speaker 5: Having a solid backup quarterback that you don't feel is
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  Speaker 5: a big drop-off from your starter is a big... It's
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  Speaker 5: like we focus on special teams. Those are the things
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  Speaker 5: that you should have to make sure that your team
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  Speaker 5: is set up for success for the entire season. You
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  Speaker 5: should not be thinking about trading your backup because he's good.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And I think... It's a win-now league. That's the first
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  Speaker 2: and foremost thing. And you're not looking... Baseball has this
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  Speaker 2: every year. Like, oh, we should move a guy because
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  Speaker 2: his contract is expiring. He's probably not going to re-sign here.
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  Speaker 2: I think in a lot of ways, you could have
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  Speaker 2: made the argument for a Rosarena this year. Do you
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  Speaker 2: move him at the deadline? You could have gotten a
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  Speaker 2: lot for him. And right now, hindsight being 20-20... Probably
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  Speaker 2: should have moved him.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 5: But you thought he was going to at least help
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  Speaker 5: you get to the playoffs. He tried, but he can't
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  Speaker 5: do it himself. At the end of July, most of
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  Speaker 5: us still believe this team was a playoff team. So
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  Speaker 5: you keep them.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Because honestly, you owe it to your fan base to win.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Now today, not tomorrow, not next week, not the week after, today.
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  Speaker 2: And they kept them. And yeah, maybe again, hindsight being 20,
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  Speaker 2: if they would have been 15 games out, then you
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  Speaker 2: move them.
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  Speaker 3: But you weren't.
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  Speaker 2: But baseball has that all the time where you move guys.
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  Speaker 2: Hockey has it too. Trade deadline coming up. Expiring contracts.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to get them. Let's go get back.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go get some stuff for them. Let's do that.
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  Speaker 2: The NFL doesn't have that as much. Sometimes they do.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, actually, you get Leonard Williams, you get some
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  Speaker 2: draft capital. But my God, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: And not to mention, you have 11 2027 draft picks. 11.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And on this team, what we saw this year, they
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  Speaker 2: only had 13 rookies in training camp. And that included
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  Speaker 2: the UDFAs.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They only had 13. So the way this roster, and
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  Speaker 2: this is kind of the problem they ran into a
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  Speaker 2: little bit in 15, 16, 17 and there after the
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  Speaker 2: Super Bowl, the first Super Bowl runs with Pete, is
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  Speaker 2: that because you have this roster that's pretty stacked, there's
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of opportunities for draft picks. That's one
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  Speaker 2: of the reasons that they went out and they made
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  Speaker 2: some bad draft picks. But they were taking flyers on
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  Speaker 2: guys because they didn't need to worry about building your
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  Speaker 2: roster back up.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Like I can take Christian Michael. Because God knows what,
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  Speaker 2: or Rashad Penny. If we're being honest, like dealing with
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  Speaker 2: Marshawn was a lot. You just never knew.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I understand taking running backs, but you know what?
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  Speaker 2: You take a flyer on those guys. Malik McDowell got
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  Speaker 2: a little cocky. Got a little cocky with ourselves.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one was a, that one hurt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But again, your rosters at that point, they were starting
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  Speaker 2: to diminish, but like there was not a lot of,
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  Speaker 2: there was like, so Jadarian Price, Julian Neal, who am
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  Speaker 2: I missing? Rookies that made the team this year.
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  Speaker 5: Bud Clark.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on IR, though.
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  Speaker 5: Right, but yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I'm missing somebody. But you get the point. There
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  Speaker 2: just was not a lot of competition available for rookies
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  Speaker 2: this year, and they're probably in with 11 picks next year.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need draft picks. You need to win right now, too. Right.
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  Speaker 2: But good job. Morning Show. Shout out to you. You
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  Speaker 2: just got us to do 10 minutes on that. Good job.
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  Speaker 2: Proud of you guys. That must be the Anders influence.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, must be because I'm gone.
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  Speaker 2: No, I don't think that's it. We'll come back. I
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  Speaker 1: fitness meets family. Now for all things Cougs, here's Ian
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  Speaker 1: with the Cougar Legends.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. It is time to talk
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  Speaker 2: Cougs with our two Coug legends, Alex Brinkin and Christo Bruce,
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  Speaker 2: after a win, thankfully, over a really not a great team.
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  Speaker 2: But that's all right. A win's a win. We'll take
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  Speaker 2: that this week. A fun week. Arizona rolls into town.
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  Speaker 2: Noah Fafita, we'll get to that in a second. MK,
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  Speaker 2: Alex are here.
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  Speaker 5: MK.
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  Speaker 2: How about our guy? How about our guy? Network TV,
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  Speaker 2: USA Network. How did he look?
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  Speaker 3: He looked good to me.
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  Speaker 6: You know what, man? QB1, I'm so proud of you.
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  Speaker 6: I was like, you know, there's some guys, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you really love them. You don't want to give them
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  Speaker 6: too much praise, you know. But, you know, when you're
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  Speaker 6: a big quarterback coming out of the Palouse, you can
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  Speaker 6: keep pumping it up a little bit. You sounded great, bud.
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  Speaker 6: I was really proud of you.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate you guys. I had a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: My guy, Guy Haberman, good man. Kate Harrison on the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: We had fun. It was a good crew.
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  Speaker 2: That was, yeah, for those that missed, Alex did the
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  Speaker 2: TV for the Duquesne-Oiseau game. He was in the booth.
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  Speaker 2: Grady Emerson filled in on the radio side, but he
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  Speaker 2: did the TV. I thought, all joking aside, like we
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  Speaker 2: texted you the other day, I thought you were fantastic,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a different beast. I don't think people understand
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  Speaker 2: the difference between radio and TV in terms of a
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  Speaker 2: sports broadcast. Dude, you fit in flawlessly. I'll tell you
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  Speaker 2: right now, Wazoo better be ready. They're going to lose you, man.
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  Speaker 2: They are going to lose you on those Cougar broadcasts.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll be back next week, so don't worry. We
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  Speaker 3: got that. So I'll be back in the booth with
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  Speaker 3: Chris and Jess. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, they're going to put MK on TV. Oh, man.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine that?
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  Speaker 7: They should definitely do that.
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  Speaker 2: MK, I'll start with you. It doesn't matter who you're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Just get in a win. How big was that?
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  Speaker 6: A win is an understatement. I mean, Washington State needed
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  Speaker 6: that like you wouldn't believe. And it's funny, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you deal with adversity, but this is a team that
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  Speaker 6: you're supposed to blow out. And my phone was blowing up.
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  Speaker 6: I had about 52 chats going, what is going on
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  Speaker 6: with our team right now? You know, it's hard to watch.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm not going to say that I was one
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  Speaker 6: of those guys too, Ian. It wasn't me in the
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  Speaker 6: first quarter. But, you know, we needed that so bad
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  Speaker 6: to springboard into this season. And then Kirby getting his
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  Speaker 6: first win was pretty cool with the team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alex, it doesn't matter who you're playing. Just get
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  Speaker 2: in the win. A win's a win sometimes. How big
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  Speaker 2: was that? Just to get off the schnoz. Kirby get
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  Speaker 2: the number one, get the first one. Pinnick and the
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  Speaker 2: offense got going as the game went on. Just some
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  Speaker 2: thoughts on Saturday.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, it's hard to win, right, at any level
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  Speaker 7: with anything. You know, we've been on the other side
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  Speaker 7: of it, right, where an FCS school has come and,
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  Speaker 7: you know, beat the Cougs, and it happens every year. So,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I think it was a good– I thought
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  Speaker 7: it was impressive the way they responded to some early
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  Speaker 7: adversity because things, you know, didn't go great to start.
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  Speaker 7: I think Duquesne's a really proud football program. They have
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  Speaker 7: a really cool history, great head coach. Like, you know,
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  Speaker 7: they weren't going to back down from anybody, but I
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  Speaker 7: think ultimately– Some changes for Washington State on the offensive
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  Speaker 7: line and with the scheme really paid off. The defense
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  Speaker 7: getting a couple guys back looked healthy and certainly eventually
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  Speaker 7: wore the Dukes down. All in all, good win. What
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  Speaker 7: you wanted looked like you relatively stayed healthy. You mentioned
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  Speaker 7: getting ready for a big week here coming up.
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  Speaker 2: Alex, let me stay with you. We were talking in
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  Speaker 2: our group chat the first couple weeks and I think
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  Speaker 2: we finally saw it. Let's get some more Maxwell Woods
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  Speaker 2: out there. Number three is a playmaker. You retained him. Again,
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  Speaker 2: it goes without saying that Kirby and his staff, there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of love being tossed around Oregon State's way
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  Speaker 2: right now and Jamarcus Shepard and how they've looked. Not
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  Speaker 2: so much the results, but how they've looked. It was
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  Speaker 2: kind of the other way around going into the season.
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  Speaker 2: People were loving Kirby and everything. One of the things
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  Speaker 2: they liked about Kirby was his staff. He retained guys.
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  Speaker 2: And Wiz was one of those guys he retained, along
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  Speaker 2: with Voorhees, right? And, you know, that running back room
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  Speaker 2: for the most part. But, Alex, I love seeing a
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  Speaker 2: playmaker get the ball in his hands a lot, and
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  Speaker 2: they found different ways to do it.
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  Speaker 3: A bunch of different ways.
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  Speaker 7: I think just generally, schematically, Matt Miller came into the
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  Speaker 7: week and was like, you know what, we're going to
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  Speaker 7: spread it out a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to use the athletes.
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  Speaker 7: We're going to stretch the field sideline to sideline, which
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  Speaker 7: then allows, you know, those playmakers to hit it up inside,
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  Speaker 7: you know, as you mix it up. And so you
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  Speaker 7: definitely saw– There was a sequence where Maxwell Woods really
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  Speaker 7: got going where it was like, throw it to him
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  Speaker 7: out of the backfield, then hand it off to him
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  Speaker 7: in the backfield, and then put him out in the
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  Speaker 7: slot and throw a screen to him. There's like three
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  Speaker 7: plays in a row, and I think they could have
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  Speaker 7: gone a fourth. He was so gassed, though, that he
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  Speaker 7: had to come off the field. And Kirby Voorhees ended
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  Speaker 7: up finishing it off for the touchdown. So, again, he
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  Speaker 7: can do a lot of different things. He's got, you know,
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  Speaker 7: great speed, you know, good lateral quickness. I think he
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  Speaker 7: can be a receiver. So I generally, you know, I
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  Speaker 7: love they were throwing the ball in first down, a
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  Speaker 7: bunch of quick throws on first down to get Pinnock
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  Speaker 7: in a rhythm. I believe, especially even at Kansas State,
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  Speaker 7: you know, Caden Pinnock can really throw the football.
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  Speaker 3: They need to lean into that, and they need to
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  Speaker 3: throw to win.
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  Speaker 6: But another great thing, too, is he can also run.
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  Speaker 6: The thing that I'm worried about is his longevity throughout
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  Speaker 6: the season. Ian, you saw that hit he took on
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  Speaker 6: the sideline. I think he was knocked out for a second, honestly.
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  Speaker 6: and this is probably two, three weeks in a row,
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  Speaker 6: he's taken a hell of a shot, and it's like,
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  Speaker 6: how many of those shots can you take, and then
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  Speaker 6: after him, does the talent drop off, drop extremely to
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  Speaker 6: the other side, right, that we don't have a chance offensively?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that hit he took, I thought the same thing.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, we're going to see either Duggar
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  Speaker 2: or Eshelman here, and, you know, I think he's lucky
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, even if he didn't have a concussion
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  Speaker 2: in the NFL, they would have taken him out right away. Like,
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  Speaker 2: that would have come down from above. Yeah, he would
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  Speaker 2: have been out of the game, but Alex, go back
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  Speaker 2: to you for a second, the throwing of the football
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  Speaker 2: for Pinnock, because there's been a lot of talk about him, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: the quarterback. Shockingly, the quarterback gets a lot of attention.
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  Speaker 2: That's how it is. Yeah, exactly. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: attention paid to him. You know, if I was interesting,
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  Speaker 2: I think Guy Haberman, you're saying in the broadcast, talked
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  Speaker 2: a lot about how, and I think you did, Alex, too, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is a guy that wasn't a running quarterback in
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  Speaker 2: high school. And even last year at UC Davis, he
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  Speaker 2: had 400 yards. You take the yards away. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he could run a little bit. Is he just learning
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  Speaker 2: what he's able to do, or is he one of
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  Speaker 2: those guys that's going to be reluctant? Because it feels
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  Speaker 2: like he's more willing to run than throw, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other guys that are athletic that want
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  Speaker 2: to sit back there and throwing. not run. How would
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  Speaker 2: you talk about the balance for a panic?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I think he, he wants to be
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  Speaker 3: a passer. I mean, he's, he's skilled enough to be
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  Speaker 3: a passer, you know?
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  Speaker 7: And again, like he has the athletic ability, but you
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  Speaker 7: can't even see when he runs, like You know, he's
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  Speaker 7: not Avery Johnson and he's not, you know, like he's
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  Speaker 7: not doing it like it's second nature to him.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think some of that has to do.
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  Speaker 7: With his, you know, general like, you know, again, he's
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  Speaker 7: a three sport athlete growing up. He didn't get as
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  Speaker 7: many snaps playing football. You know, some guys like he's
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  Speaker 7: only a sophomore, you know, if I'm using Avery Johnson.
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  Speaker 7: example you know he's avery johnson senior so you know
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  Speaker 7: i think he's kind of learning what that part of
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  Speaker 7: the game is for him um but you can kind
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  Speaker 7: of see like when he gets in a rhythm throwing
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  Speaker 7: he really starts to heat up right but you know
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  Speaker 7: the stat that shocked me that i i you know
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  Speaker 7: it's awesome to do the deep dive this week was
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  Speaker 7: you know there was a lot to made of you
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  Speaker 7: know coogs were two of 21 on third down right
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  Speaker 7: going into the game but.
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  Speaker 3: Down attempts were over eight yards like.
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  Speaker 7: So you know in the UW game you know the
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  Speaker 7: stats throwing weren't great well you're throwing it on second
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  Speaker 7: along third and long like those are hard spots to
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  Speaker 7: be right and so um and at Kansas State I
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  Speaker 7: thought he actually threw the ball pretty well and then
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  Speaker 7: he had a nice day yesterday or uh this weekend
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  Speaker 7: so I you know again um I I think he
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  Speaker 7: is learning kind of what his game is and coaches
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  Speaker 7: need to do a good job of keep putting him
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  Speaker 7: in good situations.
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  Speaker 6: But like you were saying though too having a check
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  Speaker 6: down guy like Woods coming on the backfield that probably
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  Speaker 6: helps a And then setting yourself up. And this is
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  Speaker 6: the biggest thing you talked about last week was setting
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  Speaker 6: yourself up so that that third down is not a
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  Speaker 6: third and long, like a third and eight or third
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  Speaker 6: and nine, right? Making sure you're getting those check downs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: No doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Have you guys ever seen back-to-back punt returns for touchdowns?
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  Speaker 6: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: First time I've ever seen it. Did Bob do that? No, true.
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  Speaker 6: One of those guys did.
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  Speaker 3: Not two in a row. I mean, that was crazy.
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  Speaker 3: I was, I was, yeah, I was shocked. I've never
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  Speaker 3: seen that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, especially with special teams has been our Achilles heel.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, special teams has been kicking our butt the
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  Speaker 6: first few weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think what you saw too, is that you've got,
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  Speaker 2: you've got options back there too. And you know, with tank,
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  Speaker 2: especially right. Like there's an option there that, that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we haven't, I kind of felt like this was the
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  Speaker 2: game and you're going to have those games. And this is,
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  Speaker 2: it's unfortunate that your, that your FCS game, Alex came in,
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  Speaker 2: week three right as opposed to week one or week
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  Speaker 2: two where you can really kind of get your skis
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  Speaker 2: underneath you but now it's good because now you go
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  Speaker 2: into a tough game against arizona and then conference play
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  Speaker 2: after that so you kind of get your skis what
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  Speaker 2: have you learned alex about your about the playmakers like
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  Speaker 2: without freeman out this year it feels like there's a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more than we've seen so far but they're
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  Speaker 2: maybe going to get those guys going but what do
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  Speaker 2: you think about the true playmakers especially we talk about
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  Speaker 2: woods we know what vorhees is about what about the
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  Speaker 2: guys on the outside.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think, you know, getting guys like Brandon Ganesh
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  Speaker 7: and Worthy more involved is super important. I mean, just
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  Speaker 7: seeing the way he moves after the catch and that
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  Speaker 7: sort of thing. I mean, he's probably got the most pure,
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  Speaker 7: you know, ability to stretch the field, I think, for
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  Speaker 7: that team with size and those sort of things. So
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  Speaker 7: I think I loved getting him involved. Obviously, Tank had,
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  Speaker 7: you know, some really good things going. He's a guy
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  Speaker 7: that they've talked about wanting to get him involved. He
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  Speaker 7: just needs more reps and more snaps. Now, he's got
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  Speaker 7: a lot of talent. So, you know, I definitely think
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  Speaker 7: that he's a guy that can can make an impact
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  Speaker 7: and then i think daniel blood and darius clemens will
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  Speaker 7: be kind of like your steady eddie guys that like
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  Speaker 7: they're gonna make the catches when they come their way
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  Speaker 7: you can trust them clearly um you know caden has
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  Speaker 7: like a trust level with those guys and they're veterans
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  Speaker 7: right they're seniors so um i think you got that
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  Speaker 7: kind of mix in there but you know you need
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  Speaker 7: you need ganesh and worthy to get more touches you
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  Speaker 7: need tank hawkins to get more touches along the way
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  Speaker 7: as well if.
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  Speaker 6: You're a jersey guy if you're equipment guy like how
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  Speaker 6: do you set yourself up to put ganesh and worthy
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  Speaker 6: on the back of a jersey like is that what
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  Speaker 6: do we do here do we abbreviate that.
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  Speaker 2: Oh god that's hilarious just bg on the back hey
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  Speaker 2: he's a great story though man i mean guys uh
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  Speaker 2: you know from east side catholic walked on and i
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  Speaker 2: mean you look at long arms like catch radius is
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  Speaker 2: big isn't it like i yeah i like i like
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  Speaker 2: i it's for the first couple weeks you see the
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  Speaker 2: name and you're like okay let's let's let's get this
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  Speaker 2: cat involved so the announcers have to say his name
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  Speaker 2: a few times and then uh And finally, old guy
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  Speaker 2: and Alex had to do that this past weekend. Alex Brink,
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  Speaker 2: it's MK. It's our Cougs Talking Cougs. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: get to a bigger picture topic in a second, but
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  Speaker 2: let me just go to the other side. And just
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  Speaker 2: as it relates to this week, here come the– boy,
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  Speaker 2: I never thought I'd say this. I'm excited for an
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  Speaker 2: Arizona Wildcats game in Martin Stadium. Usually this is like
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  Speaker 2: one of the appetizers for USC or Oregon or somebody
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  Speaker 2: like that. But our old friends from the old conference,
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  Speaker 2: Noah Fafita, seven touchdowns, I think just one interception so far.
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  Speaker 2: He's thrown for 834 yards. He's been there, I believe, Alex,
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  Speaker 2: since it was the Pac-10, not even the Pac-12. He's
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  Speaker 2: been there forever. He poses some problems this week, and
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  Speaker 2: as do the Wildcats. What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: The Coug defense against Noah Fafita in that offense.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely a tough matchup.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, they gave, you know, they gave BYU kind
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  Speaker 7: of all they could handle and through three quarters or
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  Speaker 7: so a few weeks ago.
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  Speaker 3: And Fafita is a special player. I remember him coming
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  Speaker 3: out of server.
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  Speaker 7: I remember it was him and Ted McMillan were like
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  Speaker 7: a package deal and Jetfish got him to go to
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  Speaker 7: Arizona and it was a whole thing. And you know,
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  Speaker 7: I thought he was, you know, he's a really great
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  Speaker 7: pure passer. Probably the nice thing, right, compared to Washington
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  Speaker 7: State's first two FBS opponents is he's not really going
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  Speaker 7: to beat you with his legs. Like, he is an
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  Speaker 7: athletic player, but he's not DeMond Williams and Avery Johnson.
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  Speaker 7: So I would like to think for Washington State that that,
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  Speaker 7: you know, that should help them defensively be able to
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  Speaker 7: maybe contain a little bit more, but he is a
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  Speaker 7: much better pure thrower than those first guys also.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think for us defensively, like, having somebody
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  Speaker 6: be able to sit in that pocket and let us
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  Speaker 6: get after him. I think getting Beatty and the rest
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  Speaker 6: of the D-line to actually be able to get to
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  Speaker 6: the quarterback, only having two sacks is a little bit tough,
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  Speaker 6: especially against a team that we know is going to
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  Speaker 6: be behind a little bit and going to be passing
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  Speaker 6: the ball. I think we've got to figure out how
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  Speaker 6: to get to the quarterback. That's going to be the
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  Speaker 6: big push for us this week.
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  Speaker 2: MK, I was just going to ask you that. That's
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  Speaker 2: the one thing I think we can look at so
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  Speaker 2: far is pressure. We've seen it a little bit, but usually,
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  Speaker 2: help me out here, and Alex, jump in afterwards. MK,
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  Speaker 2: is the pressure coming normally when they They're not getting
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  Speaker 2: there when they send three or four. They've got to
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  Speaker 2: send more guys, right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and here's the hard thing is I think we're
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  Speaker 6: doing such a great job second and third level defensively,
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  Speaker 6: better than I've seen in years, honestly. I love what's
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  Speaker 6: going on back there. But for us to be successful,
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  Speaker 6: to get that pressure, that one, two, three, we're talking
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  Speaker 6: about the timing, it's just not there yet. Keith Brown's
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  Speaker 6: doing a great job at linebacker. I love this guy.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's playing with a lot of fire. I
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  Speaker 6: think some of our blitz packages, if we can pick
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  Speaker 6: that up and create some confusion, that's literally what it's
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  Speaker 6: going to take.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't think this is a guy you
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  Speaker 2: want to blitz against. Is it, Alex, an experienced quarterback
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  Speaker 2: like Fafita?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he'll beat you in that regard.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I will say, you know, for Washington State,
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  Speaker 7: it's like, the sack numbers are down, but again, you
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  Speaker 7: played probably the two best pure athletes at quarterback in,
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  Speaker 7: in the first two weeks of the season. And they
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  Speaker 7: got out of, right. They got, got out of a
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  Speaker 7: couple of things because of that. So I, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I think it's close. Like, I think they have a chance,
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  Speaker 7: but you know, I, you know, the, the defensive ends
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  Speaker 7: and the interior D tackles got it, got to make a,
• 27:01
  Speaker 7: they got to make an impact somewhere along the line.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Go ahead. Go ahead, MK.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: I was going to say, the biggest thing, and we'll
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: probably talk about this in a second, but the crowd
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: was down, obviously, right? The attendance was down. For Washington State,
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: playing at home has to be an advantage, especially playing
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: against Arizona. Figuring out a way, Washington State needs to
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: figure out a way to rally the troops and get
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: bodies over there and bring some noise.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I would say, and that's what I want to kind
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of transition to a little bit, a little bigger picture
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: topic here for a second before I let the guys go.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: Alex Brink, MK Bruce, Crystal Bruce. All right. Yeah, I mean,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I thought, honestly, for a game against that opponent, the
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: students actually looked pretty decent. I mean, you're not going
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: to get, it's just, it's hard. Like, you're really, it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: an uphill battle right now. Now, that said, you've got Arizona,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: 430 game Saturday. Weather should be good. There's no reason,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: you know, and they'll have a bigger crowd. They've already
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: said that. So that's going to be nice. One of
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: the things that's come up is, and this is, I
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: hear this often, and Alex, I'd love to have your
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: thoughts and then MK jump in. Somebody made a tweet yesterday,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: and I thought it kind of applied to a lot of– honestly,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: it applied to probably every school except for four or
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: five across the country. Camario Taylor is the quarterback at
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Mississippi State. He's having an incredible start to the season.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Killing it. Just killing it and just doing a great job.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: And someone said, well, this is all fun and nice,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: but I can't wait to see where he goes next year.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Next year. Right?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: And that comes into play. That's an SEC school, by
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: the way. Last I checked, Mississippi State. But somebody said that.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Nicole Auerbach from NBC, who doesn't like anybody except for
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: the top five schools in the country, says, I can't
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: believe people are just saying this still. It's a thing.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Just enjoy the games. I think I hear from a
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: lot of fans, well, how can I? We've got a
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: DB that has housed a couple. He's got more touchdowns
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: this year than the running backs do. I'm like, okay,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: where will he go next? Where will Maxwell Woods go?
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: I hear that a lot, Alex. I know that's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: frustration for a lot of fans. They want to get
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: behind the team. They want to get fired up. They
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: want to go to Martin Stadium. But there's just that
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: black cloud hanging over. And it's not just Wazoo. It's
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: across the country. And I just mentioned SEC school. Alex,
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: what do you say to fans that say, hey, man,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: I'm having a hard time because I want to invest
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: myself in this thing. I want to invest myself. And
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: it's not like Wazoo doesn't have transfers either, guys. Quarterback is,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: et cetera. But what do you tell fans, Alex?
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's unfair to feel that way. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: totally understand it. I just think.
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: Like turnover happens, particularly in college football. It's just happening
• 29:30
  Speaker 7: at a way higher clip now. And I think the
• 29:32
  Speaker 7: idea that, you know, these athletes, like they're not committed
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: to the school or whatever it is.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, look, when they're on the field, they're giving
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: it everything they got.
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: And we can.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: Get behind that and support that. And in the end, Washington,
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: what you want for Washington state is for.
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: The logo and the brand and the university to continue
• 29:48
  Speaker 7: to like be out front of things. And so I
• 29:50
  Speaker 7: think you can support in the same way. I think
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: you can also support the athletes and say, Hey, like,
• 29:54
  Speaker 7: you know, we appreciate your time with us and we
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: wish you the best moving forward. And we're excited for
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: whoever the next, you know, the next version of that
• 30:00
  Speaker 7: is coming in.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Cause there are a lot of.
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: You know, think about the, in this state day and age,
• 30:05
  Speaker 7: you could never get in the past. I'm a ties
• 30:07
  Speaker 7: McLean priest river guy that grew up as a coob
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: coming back to Washington state to, to bleed crimson and
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: gray from Idaho. Like I think like, I think those
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: stories are almost cooler than the stories of guys leaving,
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: and we should get behind that.
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and even before that, too, it's like someone the
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: other day was like, oh, Washington State, you guys don't
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: have any good players. I was like, what about the
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: number one pick, Cam Ward? It's like a lot of
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: Cougs are still like, you know, he left in a
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: good way. He's like, we couldn't pay him enough, but
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: he still represented Washington State well when he left, right?
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: And then think about any other coach. Any other coach, historically,
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: they have a couple good seasons, and they're gone. It's
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: the same thing, right? So as long as they represent
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: it well, I think you still get behind it in
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: regards to the Cougs.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard because, like I just said, if you
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: look at our current roster in Pullman, it's not like
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's void of guys that transferred in. We take guys,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: they take guys, everyone takes guys. It's just I don't
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: know what the solution is. I don't know if it's
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: the Protect College Sports Act or not. I know that
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: John Harlow and Wazoo support it. A lot of people
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: support it, but I don't know if that's it. But
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I do think, yeah. Try to enjoy it while you can.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the players when they're there. Like Alex said, I
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: think that's well said. At the same time, I also
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: understand and fully embrace why people are– every time one
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of our guys makes a play, I go, well, does
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: he have eligibility left? Oh, my God. You know, like seriously.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: And I'll be honest. You two guys would– you guys
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: have both mentioned it. MK, you lead the conference in sacks.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't have stayed there. You would have got paid, right?
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: I would have stayed there.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I know you would. I love you. I love you.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: You actually might be the one. You might be the
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: guy that would have stayed. Alex, he might have been.
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: He was the king of Pullman, right? He was the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: prince of Pullman. He wouldn't have left.
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: No way. No shot.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: I would have been at Dismore's.
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Let's wrap it up with this. Alex, how big is
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: this game for Wazoo? Against a power four school, before
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you get to conference, get some momentum, but build off
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: of last week, how would you phrase this game this week?
• 32:00
  Speaker 7: I think they need to put their best foot forward
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: that they've had in these first four weeks, right?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: Whatever that means.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: Again winning is hard this is a good opponent so
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: you know it's a toss-up as far as how the
• 32:12
  Speaker 7: game goes in my opinion but they need to look
• 32:15
  Speaker 7: cohesive as a unit right like they need to get
• 32:17
  Speaker 7: the kicking game going offense needs to clean up pre-snap
• 32:20
  Speaker 7: penalties and and i think i think defense needs to
• 32:23
  Speaker 7: keep growing uh you know defense needs to keep growing
• 32:26
  Speaker 7: i think if they do that they have a real
• 32:27
  Speaker 7: shot to win but again i think kook fans are
• 32:30
  Speaker 7: looking to see a little bit a la oregon state
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: like does this team belong in the new pack 12
• 32:35
  Speaker 7: does it belong because there's like a lot there's a
• 32:37
  Speaker 7: Regardless of this week, there's a ton of football left,
• 32:40
  Speaker 7: and you can't let whatever the result is of this
• 32:42
  Speaker 7: week affect the rest of the season.
• 32:45
  Speaker 6: Right, wrong, or indifferent, that's the thing. Everybody's always wondering,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: should Washington State belong? That's always the thought process. The
• 32:50
  Speaker 6: big thing is going to be the takeaways. We cannot
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: turn the ball over special teams anymore. It has to
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: be a point of emphasis, right? And then, you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: just playing smart football with the penalties. The penalties are
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: very surprising how many there were last week.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, there was way, way too many for that. And,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: you know, special teams are interesting because there's different phases
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: of special teams. Punt return, pretty good. Punting, really good.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: Place kicker, pretty good.
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: You can't leave points out there. That's the frustrating thing.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Kirby addressed it yesterday. He said, oh, well, you'll see
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: what he does this week. But, I mean, I'm stunned
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: he hasn't switched and gone to the kickoff guy. Was
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: it Angelo? Is that his name?
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Which also tells you something, too. Like, you know, there's
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: probably a reason in that regard. But, you know, if
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: we play golf, it feels like a golfer that just
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: got the shanks going, got the hiccups going right now.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: So maybe he can figure that out. All right. MK,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: sell us a mortgage.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: I'm telling you right now, guys, listen, if you're looking
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: to buy, refinance, or you want to access some equity
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: in your home, reach out to Team Bruce. We can
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: help you out there. And then if you're looking for
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: a good gym, there's a great gym in Maple Valley,
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: the Buffalo Gym.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Alex, shoes. I know a lot of people out there
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: are shoe people. And, you know, there's options these days.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: What do you got?
• 34:02
  Speaker 7: A lot of options. Check out osaga.com. A fun family-owned business.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: My brother and I revived from my grandfather in 1970.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: Retro running shoes.
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Comfortable. Look good. Check out osaga.com.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no need to support Oregon. Go support Alex. Osaga.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: Let's go.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Otherwise, there's that other company. We need to support those guys.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Alex and MK, thanks, boys. We'll talk to you next week.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Go Cougs.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Thanks, guys. Go Cougs.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Much more to come. Joe Sheehan, the 1 o'clock hour,
• 34:30
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• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Now back to Ian Furness on your home for the Huskies, Kraken,
• 34:38
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• 34:41
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• 34:51
  Speaker 2: All right, we're welcome back. We'll get back to some
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: college football. Top of the hour, there's a thing that
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: I want to touch in on. I can't believe I'm
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: going to say this. Softie tweeted last night, he could
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: not have been more correct. Could not have been more right.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: That feels weird.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I know. It's going to make me feel dirty. But
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: about college football, we'll get to that top of the hour.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Don't forget, Ashley's got a pick for Factor Fiction 235 today.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: Your chance to win a $ 1, 000 weekly prize by texting
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: either Factor Fiction. That's all you got to do. Not hard.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: $ 10, 000 grand prize. You've been playing along. This is only
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: week three. You've got plenty of time to accumulate a
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: bunch of wins. And Ashley, I should point out, is
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: the one that will give you wins.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: Hopefully. Fingers crossed.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: She does. Hang on. Stand by. Checking the standings. Host standings. Ashley,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: three and one. Yeah.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: 75%.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: This is like the American League West. Nobody else is
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: above 50%.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: So you're basically the AL East.
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: Okay. Definitely not the AL West.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody else is the AL West.
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Led by Dick Fain's 0 for 4.
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: No wonder they were giving him a hard time yesterday.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: That makes me feel way better with my 1 for
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: 5 so far. Soon to be 2 for 5 with
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: my pick yesterday. I just want to go back real
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: quick and wrap up the topic we talked about at
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: the start of the show, Ash. And that was just
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: the morning show.
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: Just.
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you guys are doing there, what
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: you're drinking in the morning. I don't know what you're drinking.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Booze News is now part of our show.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: Is it not?
• 36:20
  Speaker 5: Lay off the booze.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Lay it off. Trading Drew Locke. So we went through,
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Ashley and I in a break went through the list.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I can't even find a trade partner right now.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: No. I don't know where he would go because you're
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: not trading to just be a backup somewhere.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: No. So like, let's just, but we'll dance with them for,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: We'll dance with them for S's and G's. Last couple
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: minutes here of the segment. The only one in the
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: NFC that would make sense would be the Giants.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: Been there, done that.
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he ain't going back.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Because they go through the rest of the list. Minnesota, no.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: They've got investments all the way around. Kyler's coming back. Seattle, Philadelphia, Carolina,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: San Francisco, Detroit, Chicago. They have a backup that, yes,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: he's in concussion protocol, but they signed to a contract
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that's like $ 10 million for two years.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Love they love him that's what they say yeah kind
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: of like we love drew lock here it's very drew
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: lock like okay uh giants we talked about earlier dallas
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: no green bay no new orleans tyler shucks having an
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: mvp season yeah they don't need him arizona no jacoby
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: tampa bay might be having second thoughts on baker.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Maybe but they're paying him a.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: Lot 100 million dollars says no yeah Atlanta's got 18 quarterbacks.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: They don't need another one.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: And Washington, sure, I guess. Dance with me on Jayden Daniels,
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Marcus Mariota, but would it be worth their 0-2?
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: And again, they're not going to give you enough that
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: you want to trade him.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: No.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: And you don't want to trade in the NFC anyway,
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: but that makes Washington's 0-2. They're soon to be 0-3.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: They're not making a move for, oh, we'll give you
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: a second and third so we can have a stopgap
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: for Jayden Daniels.
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: Kansas City, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Jacksonville, Vegas, number one overall pick.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: New England, the Jets with Geno. God, wouldn't that be something?
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: Geno and Drew Locke, but they're fine. They think Geno's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: enough of a stopgap. Baltimore, no. Denver, Pittsburgh, okay. That's
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: the only one we could find, right? Pittsburgh was the
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: only one we could find if you're going to kick Aaron,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: but you're not kicking Aaron Rodgers to the curb. Right.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So where would you trade Drew Locke?
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's the thing too.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: You've got to think about it. You've got to also
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: think like what, yeah. What are the, realistically, what are
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: you wanting to get for him? And what are you
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: really giving up? Cause you're giving up the idea of
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: having a backup you feel comfortable with.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: You, you, I'll answer the poll question.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: It's just, no, that's it.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: It's no, it's just NFL is that position is just
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: so different.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: It's just so different. Um, now if you're going to say, well,
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: what happens if somebody else gets hurt during the year?
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I guess you could revisit it, but then I would
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: say to myself, okay, well, what if Sam's butt injury
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: flares up? Right.
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: Then you're relying on Jalen Milrow. No, thank you.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: If he gets a bad butt again, you're in really
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: big trouble.
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: You got to keep his butt. You have no guarantee
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: his butt stays healthy.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: None whatsoever. So I don't think in that regard, you
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: can make that move. I just think it's, I think
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: it's sports radio. Foolish talk is what it is.
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: Great conversation though.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And they just caused us to do two segments today.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: So you know what? Hell of a job by you
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: two guys.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: That's just great.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: Super.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I bit, I just like the chum in the water.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: I just bit abs and I normally don't bite because
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: I list when I jump in the car afterwards, I
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: jump in the car and I got, you know, the mauler,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the mauler fame, Jackson felt extravaganza. There's plenty of times
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: I'm yelling at the radio going, well, I'm going to
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: shoot that. And then by the time I get to
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: the next day, I'm like, yeah, yeah, this one got me. Yeah,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: it did.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: Good work, guys.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I thought I trained Anders better. I thought I developed. Listen,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: much like the Kraken with the audit they're going to
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: do with the Furness show, player development's got to get better.
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: We never talked about absurdities like this when I was
• 40:04
  Speaker 5: on that show.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Nope, nope. It's on us. It's on this show. It's
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: on Noon to Three because my player development has to
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: get better.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: I'll let you wear it.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: We'll take a break.
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Come back.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: College football dumber than ever next.