Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 16th April 2025
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Wednesday, the sixteenth April twenty twenty five,
- 0:13Speaker 1: just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm
- 0:16Speaker 1: your host, Bran Gerrish. Delighted have Ben Rubin with me
- 0:19Speaker 1: in the studio and we will be joined by Vanessa
- 0:23Speaker 1: Biley and Sandy Adams on live link. Now we're just
- 0:28Speaker 1: going to say that a lot to cover on today's
- 0:31Speaker 1: news for the presenters. The theme which is recurrent for
- 0:35Speaker 1: us is that whilst we see more and more terrible
- 0:38Speaker 1: events in the world, whether it's in Ukraine or in
- 0:41Speaker 1: the Middle East, what we think we are watching is
- 0:45Speaker 1: the dismantling of society and infrastructure in UK. But we've
- 0:53Speaker 1: got quite a busy news today. We'll be talking about
- 0:55Speaker 1: the Cambridge Peace Conference, on the Ukraine Russia proxy war.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We're going to be having a look at the clampdown
- 1:04Speaker 1: on the free speech in Glastonbury. We'll be looking at
- 1:07Speaker 1: diplomats diplomacy in Antellia, and we're also going to be
- 1:12Speaker 1: looking at the rise of free ports and also a
- 1:16Speaker 1: very interesting section about how Israel is now going to
- 1:19Speaker 1: look after our mental health. Let's get started with the
- 1:24Speaker 1: peace conference. Of course, this is not the sort of
- 1:27Speaker 1: thing that you're going to see on the BBC. But
- 1:31Speaker 1: UK Column team were delighted to be invited not only
- 1:34Speaker 1: to help arrange this conference but also to speak and
- 1:40Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful environments in Jesus College, Cambridge. But as you
- 1:46Speaker 1: can see there, amongst the tranquility of that setting, of course,
- 1:51Speaker 1: the subject was the brutal, absolutely brutal war, the proxy
- 1:55Speaker 1: war which the West is still determined to keep running
- 1:59Speaker 1: in New Ukraine. Now, I want to say that basically
- 2:03Speaker 1: we had a number of speakers, some of the max military,
- 2:07Speaker 1: some of them diplomats, some of them professionals who've lived
- 2:10Speaker 1: in Ukraine. General Vali here retired. He's on the right
- 2:16Speaker 1: of the screen, making a case that this war really
- 2:19Speaker 1: should never have happened and it's not a good thing
- 2:22Speaker 1: for America. We also had the retired Indian Major General Bakshi.
- 2:28Speaker 1: UK Column has interviewed General Bakshi, extremely interesting man, giving
- 2:33Speaker 1: his perspective on how this war got started and why
- 2:37Speaker 1: it needs to be stopped as soon as possible. But
- 2:41Speaker 1: we also had some really serious concerns and the lady
- 2:45Speaker 1: in front of the in it behind the lecton, Dr
- 2:49Speaker 1: Dt Bisch, who did a tremendous amount of work to
- 2:52Speaker 1: get this conference together. Was warning about the really serious
- 2:56Speaker 1: side of the Ukrainian conflict, because both the United States
- 3:00Speaker 1: and the Russians have had concerns about dirty nuclear weapons,
- 3:06Speaker 1: and of course this is something which the longer the
- 3:09Speaker 1: conflict goes on, the greater the risk. Let's just hear
- 3:13Speaker 1: a little bit about what she was saying at the conference.
- 3:22Speaker 1: We should have a little video clip here, I think. Okay,
- 3:27Speaker 1: unfortunately we haven't. We haven't got that clip to show you.
- 3:31Speaker 1: But essentially the point is that the possibility of a
- 3:36Speaker 1: dirty bomb and nuclear weapon in Ukraine has been something
- 3:42Speaker 1: that has arisen and has been of concern to both
- 3:45Speaker 1: the Americans and the and the Russians as a result
- 3:51Speaker 1: of statements made by the Ukrainians themselves. Again, this is
- 3:55Speaker 1: a subject which the BBC simply doesn't want to cover.
- 3:58Speaker 1: But other subjects that were brought to the surface in
- 4:01Speaker 1: this very interesting conference, where the concerns about the US
- 4:08Speaker 1: biolabs in Ukraine, and if we just have a look
- 4:11Speaker 1: at this one slide that was part of really excellent
- 4:14Speaker 1: talk about this problem. It says that on March the tenth,
- 4:18Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, senior Defense of Visuals spoke about the
- 4:21Speaker 1: Department of Defense's cooperative Biological Threat Reduction program activities in Ukraine,
- 4:29Speaker 1: and it says that the DoD has been working with
- 4:31Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government since two thousand and fire five to
- 4:35Speaker 1: secure five biological research laboratories in Kiev, and we've invested
- 4:40Speaker 1: nearly two hundred million dollars in Ukraine since two hundred
- 4:44Speaker 1: since two thousand and five, supporting forty six Ukrainian labs.
- 4:50Speaker 1: So this was regarded as a huge problem. Now, I
- 4:54Speaker 1: want to say that the conference itself was balanced because
- 4:57Speaker 1: while we had people who were concer learned about what
- 5:01Speaker 1: was happening, if you like, from the Russian side, we
- 5:04Speaker 1: also had people speaking such as MS Lopez, former US diplomat,
- 5:11Speaker 1: talking about what the US policy is for Eastern Europe,
- 5:16Speaker 1: and her talk was extremely interesting. It gives you some
- 5:21Speaker 1: idea of the mindset in deep state America and the
- 5:26Speaker 1: fear really of the Russians. Let's also just have a
- 5:30Speaker 1: look at a little clip by George Galloway, who had
- 5:32Speaker 1: a very interesting opening statement for the audience.
- 5:38Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much, not just for the invitation
- 5:43Speaker 2: and for the introduction, but for the video that you
- 5:48Speaker 2: just should, and especially what you said immediately afterwards that
- 5:54Speaker 2: it was made two years ago.
- 5:57Speaker 3: It spoke.
- 6:00Speaker 2: Clearly as if it were made today. The fact that
- 6:04Speaker 2: it was made two years ago shows both the presciants
- 6:10Speaker 2: and the courage of the participants. Because two years ago,
- 6:17Speaker 2: never mind two years ago, six months ago, these would
- 6:22Speaker 2: have been described as put In talking points. We would
- 6:28Speaker 2: have been accused of being literal agents of the Russian
- 6:36Speaker 2: state for voicing that narrative. We would have been shadow band,
- 6:44Speaker 2: outright band. If we booked this room, it would have
- 6:48Speaker 2: been canceled. If we'd held this conference, there would have
- 6:52Speaker 2: been a protest outside. We would have been blackguarded by
- 7:00Speaker 2: what still caused itself, the mainstream media. Everything that was
- 7:07Speaker 2: said there turned out to be true, and moreover, is
- 7:11Speaker 2: now the prevailing orthodoxy.
- 7:15Speaker 1: So George Galloway's key point was that just a few
- 7:20Speaker 1: years ago, if you dared to speak out on the
- 7:22Speaker 1: subject of Ukraine, the BBC and other Western media were
- 7:26Speaker 1: simply going to label you as a Putin's puppet. But
- 7:29Speaker 1: of course all the warnings that people have been making
- 7:32Speaker 1: over the way the conflict would go, it has gone,
- 7:36Speaker 1: and we've seen the resulting slaughter on the battlefield. So
- 7:39Speaker 1: just a small section there of a really excellent talk
- 7:42Speaker 1: by George Galloway. But the other person who had a
- 7:45Speaker 1: really interesting commentary was Andrew Bridgen. Let's have a little listen.
- 7:51Speaker 4: So what truth aren't we being told or the public
- 7:53Speaker 4: aren't being told? And I don't believe my colleagues are
- 7:56Speaker 4: being told. My former colleagues in the House of Commons
- 7:59Speaker 4: are being told. Well, for most of the public and
- 8:01Speaker 4: for most MPs, the conflict in Ukraine started on the
- 8:07Speaker 4: twenty fourth of February twenty twenty two, when Russia invaded.
- 8:11Speaker 4: That is their timeline. It is interesting that that was
- 8:15Speaker 4: about six hours after we just got out of the
- 8:17Speaker 4: last emergency, which was the COVID pandemic, which was officially
- 8:21Speaker 4: ended at midnight on the twenty fourth, and six hours
- 8:27Speaker 4: later we were into the next emergency, which was the
- 8:30Speaker 4: Russian invasion of Ukraine. As various people have said, in
- 8:36Speaker 4: nineteen ninety one, at the end of the Cold War,
- 8:39Speaker 4: in return for allowing Russia Germany to reamalgamate East and
- 8:49Speaker 4: West Germany, we promised the then Russian leader that we
- 8:53Speaker 4: would not move NATO and European Union an inch East Germany.
- 9:02Speaker 4: We broke that. We broke that agreement, the Minsk Agreement,
- 9:06Speaker 4: we broke that. We broke it repeatedly. We broke it
- 9:10Speaker 4: with the Baltic States, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania and everything else.
- 9:20Speaker 1: So interesting commentary there from Andrew Bridge. And again you
- 9:24Speaker 1: will not hear this sort of commentary on the BBC
- 9:27Speaker 1: or the mainstream media in the UK because free speech
- 9:30Speaker 1: is suppressed. Now, I'd just like to bring this lady
- 9:33Speaker 1: on screen, Lucy Morgan Edwards. She has huge experience of
- 9:38Speaker 1: working in Afghanistan and she gave a really excellent talk
- 9:42Speaker 1: pointing out effectively how the mainstream media completely lied about
- 9:48Speaker 1: the situation in Afghanistan. Let's just have listened to a
- 9:51Speaker 1: little clip of Lucy speaking.
- 9:55Speaker 4: So what truth aren't we being told or the public
- 9:57Speaker 4: aren't being told? And I don't believe my colleagues being told,
- 10:00Speaker 4: my former colleagues in the House of Commons are being told.
- 10:04Speaker 3: Position of women.
- 10:05Speaker 5: So of course the Afghan intervention was so very, very
- 10:08Speaker 5: heavily to the Western public as being about the protection
- 10:12Speaker 5: of women and about the transition to democracy, and so
- 10:18Speaker 5: it was none of that. And I can tell you
- 10:20Speaker 5: because I was there for you know.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So the point Lucy was making was that the mainstream
- 10:27Speaker 1: media tried to say a lot of what was happening
- 10:29Speaker 1: with Afghanistan was about the creation of democracy and the
- 10:34Speaker 1: help for women in society, but her experience on the
- 10:37Speaker 1: ground was that was absolutely not what was happening. Now,
- 10:41Speaker 1: I just emphasize a little bit more that a key
- 10:44Speaker 1: part of the conference was to get people speaking about
- 10:47Speaker 1: Ukraine instead of a one sided delivery, and one of
- 10:51Speaker 1: the points being made was that the Ukrainians had been
- 10:54Speaker 1: taught to hate the Russians. This was part of a
- 10:57Speaker 1: BBC interview where effectively one of Ukrainian policy maker was
- 11:04Speaker 1: describing Russians living within the LPR and DPR to NEETs
- 11:09Speaker 1: People's Republic laganst People's Republic as scum. The BBC clearly
- 11:15Speaker 1: helping to whip up the hatred here and this is
- 11:18Speaker 1: a key point, so that the Ukrainians have been taught
- 11:21Speaker 1: to hate the Russians. How has this taken place? Well,
- 11:24Speaker 1: part of my own talk was to have a look
- 11:26Speaker 1: at how propaganda has been working around this conflict, and
- 11:30Speaker 1: so this was the key part of what I had
- 11:33Speaker 1: to say. We've got a Western media bias which is
- 11:37Speaker 1: essentially that anything to do with the West is good,
- 11:40Speaker 1: Ukraine is good, but anything to do with the Russians
- 11:43Speaker 1: is bad. And I asked the audience if this was
- 11:47Speaker 1: just propaganda or mind control, and I pointed out to
- 11:50Speaker 1: them it was both. So at the end of the day,
- 11:52Speaker 1: if you can change the mindset of the Ukrainians, they
- 11:55Speaker 1: become Lambs for the slaughter. And what I described in
- 11:59Speaker 1: the talk was UK stealth attack on Ukraine, and I
- 12:03Speaker 1: used a lot of material that many of our viewers
- 12:06Speaker 1: will have seen before. I'm pointing out that the BBC,
- 12:09Speaker 1: of course, in BBC Monitoring, works alongside UK intelligence services
- 12:15Speaker 1: who are working alongside the American intelligence services such as
- 12:19Speaker 1: the NSA, and I've also pointed out how this stealth
- 12:23Speaker 1: attack on Ukraine has worked with UK's BBC media action
- 12:30Speaker 1: helping drive change in Ukraine. Money coming in for soft
- 12:35Speaker 1: power change via the Department for International Development, We've got
- 12:39Speaker 1: UK program assistance regarding banking and conditional loans coming in.
- 12:46Speaker 1: We've got the EU pumping in its propagandran control, and
- 12:50Speaker 1: of course we've also got the weapons coming in. And
- 12:54Speaker 1: what does that achieve will ultimately achieves the proxy war.
- 12:59Speaker 1: So the Ukraineians led to believe the freedom and democracy
- 13:02Speaker 1: are in the West. We who live in the West
- 13:05Speaker 1: know that's not true. And at the end of the day,
- 13:08Speaker 1: it's those Ukrainians that are dying being slaughtered on the
- 13:12Speaker 1: battlefield for the West proxy war. I also reminded people
- 13:18Speaker 1: that the BBC, even in pushing out its commentary on
- 13:22Speaker 1: the war through maps, is using the Institute for the
- 13:25Speaker 1: Study of War itself linked into the American Enterprise Institute.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And if we look at the family members associated with this,
- 13:35Speaker 1: we come back to Victoria Newland coming from a Ukrainian family,
- 13:40Speaker 1: but of course she's been the ace warhawk from the
- 13:44Speaker 1: time of the revolution and BBC media action in on
- 13:48Speaker 1: the ground amongst Ukrainian society. If we have a look
- 13:52Speaker 1: at it from a different aspect, we can put Zelenski
- 13:55Speaker 1: at the center here. This is a Western propaganda game
- 13:59Speaker 1: where the SEE controls what is known as Ukraine quote
- 14:03Speaker 1: independent media. But we've also got the pressure of the
- 14:07Speaker 1: likes of Victorian Newland and Nina Jankovitz, the former advisor
- 14:13Speaker 1: to the Ukraine Ministry, executive director from the Department of
- 14:19Speaker 1: Homeland Security. So essentially this is uk and US propaganda
- 14:26Speaker 1: and mind control, and many of the audience, many in
- 14:29Speaker 1: the audience at that event had no idea of the
- 14:33Speaker 1: British political parties imposing applied psychology in order to change
- 14:39Speaker 1: the mindset of the UK population. And this is something
- 14:43Speaker 1: they've been boasting at for some time. So we have
- 14:46Speaker 1: look at the minutes from the minutes of the meetings
- 14:49Speaker 1: during COVID when applied psychology was being used to make
- 14:54Speaker 1: people more frightened, to get them to a deer to lockdown.
- 14:57Speaker 1: This was ConTroll of the British public by fear. But
- 15:00Speaker 1: of course what we seem to be looking at is
- 15:03Speaker 1: control of the Ukrainian public by fear, and in particular
- 15:07Speaker 1: fear of the Russians themselves. And I think this is
- 15:15Speaker 1: an ideal time to come across to you, Vanessa, because
- 15:18Speaker 1: of course you've been watching psychology. We could call it
- 15:23Speaker 1: diplomacy work in the Middle Eastern hemisphere. What have you
- 15:28Speaker 1: got for us today.
- 15:31Speaker 6: Well, certainly not diplomacy on behalf of the West. But
- 15:35Speaker 6: today I'm going to talk about what has been happening
- 15:37Speaker 6: in Turkey in the last few days. And we've had
- 15:40Speaker 6: the Antaria Democracy Forum, which is held every year, and
- 15:47Speaker 6: this was held on the eleventh to the thirteenth of
- 15:49Speaker 6: April of this year entitled Reclaiming Diplomacy in a Fragmented World.
- 15:57Speaker 6: Very interesting that those that have Among those that attended
- 16:01Speaker 6: the forum were the current self proclaimed President of Syria
- 16:07Speaker 6: Abu Muhammad al dro Lani, now known as Ahmed al Shaddah,
- 16:12Speaker 6: who came to the forum met with Duan. As you
- 16:15Speaker 6: can see in this report from Reuters, Erduwan is pushing
- 16:20Speaker 6: hard for the lifting of Syria sanctions that of course
- 16:25Speaker 6: were imposed effectively claimed to be against the President Assad
- 16:30Speaker 6: in the Syrian government, but of course we know they
- 16:33Speaker 6: were a collective punishment for the Syrian people. But what
- 16:38Speaker 6: I want to focus on is something that has created
- 16:42Speaker 6: really an enormous stir at the conference, and that was
- 16:47Speaker 6: the very short speech by Professor Jeffrey Sachs, a professor
- 16:51Speaker 6: at Columbia University.
- 16:53Speaker 3: He's an economist, he's a.
- 16:55Speaker 6: Public policy analyst, and people might remember that he exposed
- 17:00Speaker 6: the CIA Timber Sycamore Project.
- 17:03Speaker 3: That was the project that started.
- 17:05Speaker 6: Under the Obama administration to destabilize Syria on behalf of
- 17:10Speaker 6: Israel and to topple the Syrian government and presidency. Now
- 17:14Speaker 6: bear in mind I mentioned that Jolani was present at
- 17:18Speaker 6: this conference along with his hts or al Qaeda foreign
- 17:23Speaker 6: minister Assad Shaibani. So I think Jeffrey's words are particularly
- 17:29Speaker 6: pertinent on that basis. But let's have a lesson to
- 17:32Speaker 6: the opening of his speech.
- 17:38Speaker 7: I am not discussing the agency of the Syrian people.
- 17:43Speaker 7: I'm discussing the opposite. Do not be naive. Do not
- 17:52Speaker 7: think that six hundred, six hundred thousand people died because
- 17:58Speaker 7: of Asad and the protesters.
- 18:02Speaker 8: This was a war.
- 18:04Speaker 7: Wars are expensive, they require billions of dollars, they require armaments.
- 18:11Speaker 7: And I'm not talking about a conspiracy theory. I'm talking
- 18:14Speaker 7: about a conspiracy. And you should know, everybody, go look
- 18:20Speaker 7: up Operation Timber Sycamore. Understand what happened in your region.
- 18:28Speaker 7: And if you think that calling in the CIA is
- 18:31Speaker 7: going to do the bidding of agency in this region,
- 18:34Speaker 7: you are sadly mistaken. This region has been manipulated by Britain,
- 18:41Speaker 7: France and the United States for one hundred years since
- 18:45Speaker 7: the Versailles Treaty.
- 18:50Speaker 6: I mean, this is an incredibly strong statement, bearing in
- 18:54Speaker 6: mind the audience with whom he was putting out this statement.
- 18:58Speaker 6: So he goes on to bring in Israel into the equation.
- 19:02Speaker 3: So let's hear this.
- 19:06Speaker 7: It will not have safety or peace until the United
- 19:12Speaker 7: States is out of this region through manipulation and war.
- 19:18Speaker 7: You all say, well, it's Israel doing this. It's the
- 19:21Speaker 7: same thing I'm talking about. It's the same reason for
- 19:25Speaker 7: Operation Timber Sycamore. It's not an independent fact. It's the
- 19:31Speaker 7: reason why this happened.
- 19:36Speaker 6: He then goes on to mention that it's very foolhardy
- 19:39Speaker 6: to see the United States as a friend of the region,
- 19:42Speaker 6: and he brings up the subject of Iran. So let's
- 19:45Speaker 6: just quickly play this.
- 19:47Speaker 7: If you think your big friend, the United States is
- 19:50Speaker 7: going to do your bidding and help you get your way,
- 19:56Speaker 7: empires divide to rule.
- 20:01Speaker 8: They are not doing the bidding.
- 20:03Speaker 7: Of Turkey or Syria or Lebanon or anybody else in
- 20:09Speaker 7: this region. And if this is yes, you want to
- 20:15Speaker 7: balance Persia or Iran, you call in the United States
- 20:21Speaker 7: to do that, and you think this is going to
- 20:23Speaker 7: work out well.
- 20:28Speaker 6: And this is also a criticism, of course, of Ferdolan
- 20:31Speaker 6: and his neo Ottoman empire aspirations that of course led
- 20:35Speaker 6: to his backing of the crew back in December twenty
- 20:38Speaker 6: twenty four, so a very powerful speech. I mean, Jeffrey
- 20:42Speaker 6: Sachs is also I have to say, involved in sustainable
- 20:46Speaker 6: development goals at the UN. He heads up a solution network.
- 20:50Speaker 6: But in this case he did an extraordinary job. And
- 20:55Speaker 6: where I say that the shockwaves have been caused, I'm
- 20:59Speaker 6: receiving messages from people that I know inside Turkey saying
- 21:03Speaker 6: we have to talk about this. We've got to start
- 21:06Speaker 6: talking about what happened in Syria. So he definitely sort
- 21:11Speaker 6: of opened the floodgates on people wanting to know exactly
- 21:15Speaker 6: what went on in Syria. And of course that can't
- 21:18Speaker 6: ignore the role that Turkey played, but the fact that
- 21:22Speaker 6: he mentioned the Zionist role alongside the US have basically
- 21:26Speaker 6: said there's absolutely no difference and it's a very foolish
- 21:30Speaker 6: mission to call in the US to help you resolve
- 21:34Speaker 6: the problems in the region. How full statement and something
- 21:38Speaker 6: that I think is going to have long lasting consequences.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Vanessa, thank you very much for that. Not just reinforce
- 21:45Speaker 1: the point about dialogue, because if people are calling for
- 21:48Speaker 1: dialogue over Syria, and of course dialogue means that the
- 21:53Speaker 1: truth comes to the surface or has the opportunity to
- 21:56Speaker 1: come to the surface. This is exactly the same call
- 22:00Speaker 1: underpinning the Cambridge conference on Ukraine. We need to talk
- 22:05Speaker 1: about the issues. They need to be debated publicly. We
- 22:08Speaker 1: need to get the legacy press and media talking about
- 22:13Speaker 1: these issues because this is what brings the facts and
- 22:16Speaker 1: the information to the surface. So I am encouraged by that.
- 22:21Speaker 1: And the other thing I'll add is no, not everybody
- 22:25Speaker 1: is getting the full picture. So there are some people
- 22:28Speaker 1: speaking out in one aspect, but they are not seeing
- 22:32Speaker 1: what's happening in the shadows as it were. But we
- 22:36Speaker 1: need to encourage people who start moving in the right
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- 23:53Speaker 1: on the reasons why he resigned from the party. Fascinating discussion.
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- 24:22Speaker 1: Friday the eighteenth Saturday the nineteenth of July. We're very
- 24:27Speaker 1: happy to keep advertising. This is getting people together not
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- 24:34Speaker 1: to inform and educate, so delighted to see this starting
- 24:38Speaker 1: to go on around the country. We've also got the
- 24:41Speaker 1: big stand in the Light Festival in Cumbria for May
- 24:45Speaker 1: the twenty third to the twenty six so music and
- 24:49Speaker 1: people speaking on topics and UK column team will be
- 24:54Speaker 1: there for that event. Now, this one, Sandy, I think
- 24:59Speaker 1: comes in to your section, the Dissident meet Up of
- 25:02Speaker 1: the Southwest Region. What can you tell us, Well, yes.
- 25:07Speaker 9: I mean obviously people are beginning to see that their
- 25:10Speaker 9: their voice is being taken away and that through their
- 25:15Speaker 9: local councils things are being eroded, that the power is
- 25:18Speaker 9: being eroded through things like devolution and other stuff that
- 25:22Speaker 9: we'll talk about later. And really it's about, you know,
- 25:26Speaker 9: should we should we start resisting, should we have a
- 25:29Speaker 9: resistance against against the council at tax I'm going to
- 25:33Speaker 9: be speaking about devolution, particularly at this event, and we've
- 25:37Speaker 9: got Chris Coverdale speaking the following day on the on
- 25:41Speaker 9: the you know, his whole sovereignty thing. So it will
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- 25:54Speaker 1: Okay, lovely, thank you very much. For that, and I'll
- 25:57Speaker 1: just add this one. This was an emails sent to
- 26:00Speaker 1: me today by Anthony Webber, independent political commentator, and he's
- 26:06Speaker 1: pointing out that the local candidates for Runkorn and Helsby
- 26:11Speaker 1: have been asked questions about peace in the Ukraine Russia conflict.
- 26:15Speaker 1: And I think this is a really excellent idea for
- 26:19Speaker 1: sounding out candidates and putting them under a bit of
- 26:21Speaker 1: pressure as to what they actually do. Think. Obviously, if
- 26:25Speaker 1: you freeze the screen, if you're looking at the video,
- 26:29Speaker 1: once it's up on the UK column website, you can
- 26:32Speaker 1: have a look at the actual questions that have been
- 26:34Speaker 1: put to these candidates. But I regard this absolutely as activism.
- 26:39Speaker 1: And on that subject, Sandy, let's come back to you
- 26:42Speaker 1: because you have been censored effectively by the local government
- 26:48Speaker 1: in Glastonbury.
- 26:50Speaker 9: Yes, we were going to host an event with Clive
- 26:55Speaker 9: de Karl and Richard Robes on the second of May
- 26:58Speaker 9: and we were told when the organizer went to pay
- 27:02Speaker 9: for the event, it was already booked and she was
- 27:04Speaker 9: told that we weren't going to be allowed to speak.
- 27:08Speaker 9: And we found out that earlier on in the year
- 27:11Speaker 9: they decided to censor certain talks in the town Hall.
- 27:16Speaker 9: It was the Property and Assets Committee that were put
- 27:19Speaker 9: together and it was because Sasha Stone had done a
- 27:22Speaker 9: speech there some kind of event there that only a
- 27:27Speaker 9: few I mean, I think it was one person had
- 27:30Speaker 9: had well, a couple of people who were within the
- 27:32Speaker 9: council and one that isn't had complained about it. So
- 27:36Speaker 9: they used this as an excuse to actually ban what
- 27:38Speaker 9: they call conspiracy theorists. They haven't said as much, but
- 27:43Speaker 9: they've The letter that we got from the from the
- 27:45Speaker 9: from the town council seemed to point in that direction.
- 27:50Speaker 9: But what they they they they had a real problem
- 27:53Speaker 9: with Clive Clive de Col's wonderful alternative medicine you know,
- 27:58Speaker 9: supplements and and his mad chair that they seem to
- 28:02Speaker 9: have a problem with, and they almost made it sound
- 28:05Speaker 9: as though he was pushing quackery. But what's really and
- 28:09Speaker 9: for me, they said I would cause some kind of
- 28:13Speaker 9: community tension by what I was talking about because I
- 28:16Speaker 9: was going to talk about UK corporate land grab and
- 28:21Speaker 9: also the bid for the World Heritage Site status by
- 28:25Speaker 9: Glastonbury Town Council of Glastonbury. So they didn't like any
- 28:29Speaker 9: of that. But what's interesting is a court, you know,
- 28:32Speaker 9: to do with Clive is that they mentioned that there
- 28:36Speaker 9: was a conflict of interest with what he was doing,
- 28:38Speaker 9: which is alternative medicine. And what is coming up in
- 28:41Speaker 9: one of the buildings next door to the town hall,
- 28:44Speaker 9: which has been paid for by this big grant that
- 28:50Speaker 9: we've had from cult government. It's twenty three point to
- 28:53Speaker 9: twenty three point three million i think from the town deal.
- 28:59Speaker 9: And so this is going into a NHS trust wellness
- 29:03Speaker 9: center that's going into the building next door to the
- 29:06Speaker 9: town hall, which is I mean again it's a bit
- 29:10Speaker 9: like a corporate takeover. So you know, there's a big
- 29:14Speaker 9: thing to stop the World Heritage thing happening, because that,
- 29:18Speaker 9: again is there's a lot of worry about that. It
- 29:21Speaker 9: needs to be talked about. There is a consultation going
- 29:24Speaker 9: on at the moment that they've already paid thirty thousand
- 29:26Speaker 9: for to gain status, it will cost five hundred thousand.
- 29:31Speaker 9: So we're looking at all this very carefully and they
- 29:33Speaker 9: don't like it at all, so we're not allowed to
- 29:36Speaker 9: speak basically, yeah, it's yeah, it's pretty pretty bad. The
- 29:46Speaker 9: whole thing, I think is my letter to them really
- 29:52Speaker 9: was about the you know, dustmytown hall is owned and
- 29:56Speaker 9: operated by public authority. It's not a private venue because
- 29:59Speaker 9: it's publicly funded. It's maintained through public funds, and it
- 30:03Speaker 9: exists to serve the whole community, not just those whose
- 30:07Speaker 9: views align with council officers. You know, as residents and taxpayers.
- 30:12Speaker 9: We've got the right to have free speech and they
- 30:15Speaker 9: should not be functioning as a political gate gatekeeping organization.
- 30:21Speaker 9: I mean, that's what effectively they seem to be doing,
- 30:24Speaker 9: and I see this as an abuse of power. It's
- 30:26Speaker 9: also against the Human Rights Act of nineteen ninety eight,
- 30:29Speaker 9: which guarantees the right to freedom of expression under Article ten,
- 30:33Speaker 9: provided you're not inciting hatred or violence, which we're not.
- 30:37Speaker 9: We've held many, many events in the town hall that
- 30:41Speaker 9: have been very happy and the people have loved it.
- 30:44Speaker 9: We've filled the town hall. But suddenly we are not
- 30:48Speaker 9: allowed to speak. And it's a reflection of what's happening
- 30:51Speaker 9: in our country now where our voices are being sort
- 30:57Speaker 9: of silenced. Because we were not allowed to speak our truth.
- 31:01Speaker 9: We're deemed conspiracy theorists and they're just literally sanctioning us
- 31:06Speaker 9: and censoring us, which is appalling. It's an absolutely appalling situation.
- 31:11Speaker 9: So we've both written letters, you know, to Clive de
- 31:15Speaker 9: Karl and I to the town clerk. He's already responded
- 31:20Speaker 9: to Clive and said, we're still we stand by what
- 31:22Speaker 9: we did and we're not going to leave this alone.
- 31:26Speaker 9: There will be there will be a campaign to keep
- 31:29Speaker 9: free speech alive in the town because it's important, it's
- 31:32Speaker 9: really important, and we're just, you know, just going to
- 31:37Speaker 9: carry on tipping away at them.
- 31:40Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, keep chipping away at them. But what's so
- 31:46Speaker 1: intriguing about what's happened here is this absolutely fits in
- 31:49Speaker 1: with what you've been talking about them, where you've been
- 31:52Speaker 1: demonstrating that the intention is for the state to control
- 31:57Speaker 1: media to the lowest possible level. And here we are
- 32:00Speaker 1: with Sandy and Clyde de cart effectively being banned under
- 32:05Speaker 1: this system.
- 32:06Speaker 8: Indeed they are, yes, And I always was under the
- 32:09Speaker 8: impression that Glastonbury was a hotbed of radical thinking and freedom,
- 32:12Speaker 8: but maybe it isn't. Just a quick question for you, Sandy,
- 32:15Speaker 8: you may have mentioned this, apologies if I missed it,
- 32:17Speaker 8: But the World Heritage status does that come from UNESCO?
- 32:21Speaker 8: So that's essentially a un compliance issue, right.
- 32:24Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely one. I mean there's various World Heritage sites
- 32:31Speaker 9: across Britain, particularly in Bath. I mean that a lot
- 32:34Speaker 9: of the residents are really not happy with what's happened
- 32:36Speaker 9: there because as soon as you get World Heritage status,
- 32:40Speaker 9: the whole infrastructure is there for World Heritage status, so
- 32:44Speaker 9: you get more tourism and stuff like that, and it
- 32:47Speaker 9: becomes it becomes more about tourism and less about the
- 32:53Speaker 9: people that live there, so the cost of living goes up.
- 32:56Speaker 9: There's nowhere to live because it's all Airbnb's the usual story. Yeah,
- 33:00Speaker 9: and also corporalization, all the corporates come in to Yeah,
- 33:03Speaker 9: that's it.
- 33:04Speaker 8: Just another gravy train, isn't it. Isn't it. It's so
- 33:08Speaker 8: cynical and obviously another dynamic to Glastonbury. People certainly in
- 33:12Speaker 8: the UK will be aware of the Glastonbury Music Festival
- 33:15Speaker 8: and that itself again which is supposedly certainly presents itself
- 33:19Speaker 8: as a hotbed of radical thinking and you know, edginess
- 33:23Speaker 8: and creativity is absolutely slap bang in the middle of
- 33:27Speaker 8: the climate agenda. And I actually flagged up this report
- 33:31Speaker 8: a couple of weeks ago, which is the Global Muttadau,
- 33:35Speaker 8: the global collective effort that is being run by Mission
- 33:39Speaker 8: twenty five, which is basically the very very top level
- 33:42Speaker 8: global campaign backed by absolutely everybody, driving towards COP thirty
- 33:47Speaker 8: in Brazil at the end of this year. And on
- 33:51Speaker 8: their relatively short list of events that they've got mapped
- 33:55Speaker 8: out through twenty five. Yeah, so what are there. There's
- 33:59Speaker 8: probably twelve events there. One of them is Glastonbury, so
- 34:05Speaker 8: in their summer run May and June, Glastonbury the music festival,
- 34:09Speaker 8: they've pegged that as a key moment in this global
- 34:13Speaker 8: effort driving towards energy transformation, system transformation. So the Glastonbury
- 34:19Speaker 8: is right at the thick of this. It's a really
- 34:21Speaker 8: interesting exemplar in a number of different ways of what's
- 34:24Speaker 8: going on in the country and further afield. And I'm
- 34:27Speaker 8: sticking in the West Country and with the issue of
- 34:31Speaker 8: local corruption, and I really enjoyed this quote which I
- 34:36Speaker 8: did share last year from Marvin Reese, now known as
- 34:39Speaker 8: Lord Reese of Eastern he's been elevated into the Lords
- 34:42Speaker 8: at the start of this year, and he said, never
- 34:45Speaker 8: underestimate the power of very small politics to get in
- 34:49Speaker 8: the way of very big delivery. Obviously he's on the
- 34:53Speaker 8: side of very big delivery. And you, Sandy and us
- 34:57Speaker 8: and I'd imagine most other people watching this, we're on
- 34:59Speaker 8: the side of very small politics. And what is that phrase?
- 35:04Speaker 8: If you don't think that you can make a big
- 35:06Speaker 8: difference being small, I'm going to absolutely butcher this, but
- 35:09Speaker 8: try sleeping in a room with a mosquito, you know
- 35:12Speaker 8: there is Mandela or a Desmond Tuta or something like that.
- 35:14Speaker 8: You've said that, but he's absolutely right. It shows he
- 35:17Speaker 8: probably didn't mean to do this, but it does demonstrate
- 35:20Speaker 8: that actually small actions at a local level can really
- 35:24Speaker 8: get in the way of big delivery. Right, That's what
- 35:27Speaker 8: Lord Reese is all about. And actually he's a great
- 35:30Speaker 8: example of, quite frankly, just the enormous hypocrisy and corruption
- 35:34Speaker 8: in the system in the climate agenda. And I'm going
- 35:37Speaker 8: to just highlight a couple of things relating to Lord Reese.
- 35:40Speaker 8: There was this instance a couple of years ago Bristol
- 35:44Speaker 8: Cisy Council bans local democracy reporters from press briefings. Right,
- 35:49Speaker 8: so we can see it at the bottom there. The
- 35:51Speaker 8: decision by Bristol Council follows a question asked by a
- 35:54Speaker 8: local democracy reporter. Actually one of the BBC schemes. So
- 35:58Speaker 8: unfortunately for the BBC, one of the people was doing
- 36:00Speaker 8: his job. Alex Sebrook was asking Marvin Reeves about his
- 36:05Speaker 8: decision to fly to Canada in April for a fourteen
- 36:08Speaker 8: minute TED talk and climate change. Yes, Marvin Reeves, if
- 36:11Speaker 8: climate change is a big issue, why are you flying
- 36:13Speaker 8: to Canada for a fourteen minute talk? Isn't that a
- 36:15Speaker 8: bit hypocritical? We'll tell you what. We'll just ban you
- 36:18Speaker 8: from the briefings. That's what he did. Yeah, I mean,
- 36:21Speaker 8: that's just remarkable, isn't it. You know, And as it
- 36:24Speaker 8: turns out, he's also he's not just what would you say,
- 36:30Speaker 8: allergic to criticism, he's also apparently it would appear, rather
- 36:35Speaker 8: partial to getting bung lots of money by people he's
- 36:37Speaker 8: cut deals for while in office. So this a great
- 36:40Speaker 8: bit of reporting actually from the Bristol Cable, which came
- 36:43Speaker 8: out yesterday I think or maybe the day before, basically
- 36:46Speaker 8: says that Marvin Reese receives payment from an energy giant
- 36:50Speaker 8: that he awarded a massive contract to. Right, so we've
- 36:53Speaker 8: got this US firm Amareesco is now a paying client
- 36:58Speaker 8: of Lord Reese of Eastern struck the one billion pound
- 37:01Speaker 8: city leap de carbonization deal with the firm when he
- 37:05Speaker 8: was Bristol's mayor.
- 37:07Speaker 1: So it's just a coincidence, is absolutely yeah. I don't
- 37:10Speaker 1: think you should be too worried about this at all.
- 37:13Speaker 8: Well maybe they just thought he was a lovely guy
- 37:15Speaker 8: in the meetings and you.
- 37:16Speaker 1: Know, well man on the Club Homomnibus much might say
- 37:19Speaker 1: it was corruption, but I think it was just a coincidence.
- 37:22Speaker 8: Yes, the accidentally coincidentally ended up with getting bungleload of
- 37:27Speaker 8: money by Amarresco. And this is one of the This
- 37:31Speaker 8: is fascinating. Samdy's going to come onto this in a minute, right,
- 37:34Speaker 8: because this was one of the largest private deals in
- 37:37Speaker 8: Bristol Council history. It was a billion pounds to be
- 37:40Speaker 8: spent over twenty years. He's going to run until twenty
- 37:43Speaker 8: forty two. It's about decarbonizing the city's energy network. It
- 37:47Speaker 8: involved council staff being transferred to work in the private sector.
- 37:52Speaker 8: It's essentially selling off component parts of the council to
- 37:56Speaker 8: Amarresco and also to an organization called Vattenfall, which is
- 38:00Speaker 8: a Swedish power company which is a partner of the
- 38:02Speaker 8: World Economic Forum. All Right, so we talk about this
- 38:05Speaker 8: corporalization of the state and the great research and all
- 38:08Speaker 8: of this kind of stuff. They are literally going around
- 38:10Speaker 8: and now publicly available information about specific examples of where
- 38:15Speaker 8: corporations who are WEFT partners are going around and are
- 38:18Speaker 8: acquiring bits of the council signed off by people like
- 38:21Speaker 8: Marvin Reese right. And actually ama Esco, which was the
- 38:24Speaker 8: key participant in this bill, is owned by Vanguard, which
- 38:30Speaker 8: holds a nine point three percent steak, and Blackrock, which
- 38:33Speaker 8: owns a six point eight per cent steak. So both
- 38:35Speaker 8: of the private sector entities involved in this are World
- 38:38Speaker 8: Economic Forum partners, either directly or through their ownership structure.
- 38:44Speaker 8: Right and Marvin rees he hasn't gone away. He's not
- 38:46Speaker 8: the mayor anymore, but he, as we said, has been
- 38:48Speaker 8: bumped up to the House of Lords. He's a member
- 38:52Speaker 8: of You go to the very bottom line of the
- 38:53Speaker 8: World Economic Forum Global Future Council on the Cities of Tomorrow,
- 38:58Speaker 8: and then he's all across c forty core cities, three ci.
- 39:04Speaker 8: You know, this guy is extraordinarily influential and powerful. Sits
- 39:09Speaker 8: right at the nexus of this transformation of the country
- 39:15Speaker 8: through new energy systems, new governance systems, mass immigration, like
- 39:20Speaker 8: all of the component parts of this this radical change agenda,
- 39:24Speaker 8: and what does he get for it. He's bumped up
- 39:27Speaker 8: and he's now looking splendid in his finery in the
- 39:29Speaker 8: House of Lords. You know, absolutely disgusting.
- 39:32Speaker 1: And once we can see it, rather once we can
- 39:35Speaker 1: see it, Ben, we can do something about it. The
- 39:38Speaker 1: key thing is to expose these people and what they're doing,
- 39:41Speaker 1: and to expose the bodies that they're involved in, the
- 39:45Speaker 1: non governmental bodies and the charities and the sustainable development
- 39:50Speaker 1: goal groups that are driving this agenda. Let's bring you
- 39:54Speaker 1: back in Sandy because something else you've been looking at
- 39:58Speaker 1: us and you regarded a strange and it wants to
- 40:02Speaker 1: be looked at by the audiences. The idea of freeport
- 40:06Speaker 1: sites in the UK.
- 40:08Speaker 9: Yes, I've been looking at this just recently. It's these
- 40:13Speaker 9: These are called special Economic Zones. Now they've got their
- 40:18Speaker 9: freeports and investment zones and I've got a few maps
- 40:21Speaker 9: to show you exactly what's going on now is This
- 40:24Speaker 9: was an idea apparently of Liz Trust and Rishi Sunak
- 40:29Speaker 9: post Brexit to try and encourage more sort of a
- 40:34Speaker 9: growth plan, and it was unveiled in the Mini Budget
- 40:38Speaker 9: of twenty twenty two. These zones aimed to stimulate economic
- 40:43Speaker 9: growth post Brexit. That was the idea by offering tax
- 40:46Speaker 9: incentives and relax planning regulations to attract investment and boost
- 40:51Speaker 9: job creation. But really underneath it, you know, Rishi Sunac
- 40:57Speaker 9: really wanted to i think reduce to ease all this
- 41:03Speaker 9: taxation that was coming through from Brexit. In these special
- 41:07Speaker 9: economic zones, they have taxes that are reduced or eliminated,
- 41:10Speaker 9: planning regulations relaxed, environmental and labor laws maybe weakened, and
- 41:16Speaker 9: often businesses multinationals given special privileges. Now they have a
- 41:21Speaker 9: very different legal framework these, so it's a transfer of
- 41:25Speaker 9: UK law into private legal frameworks of corporations and this
- 41:32Speaker 9: is what we're seeing. I've got a slide of that.
- 41:35Speaker 9: So it really is the free ports. If we can
- 41:39Speaker 9: go to the freeport map, the freeport eras that we've
- 41:45Speaker 9: got at the moment are I think it's Tea Side, Humber, Thames, Felix, Stowe, Harriage,
- 41:52Speaker 9: East Midlands, Liverpool City Region, Plymouth and Solent. And then
- 41:57Speaker 9: you've got the zones that are planned across West Midlands,
- 42:00Speaker 9: Greater Manchester, Liverpool, South and West Yorkshire, the Northeast and
- 42:05Speaker 9: West Yorkshire. Now these tend to clustering post industrial areas
- 42:12Speaker 9: under the banner of sort of regeneration. We're seeing a
- 42:15Speaker 9: lot of this, but the true beneficiaries are often global
- 42:18Speaker 9: capital and multinational corporations. So these zones aren't you isolated policies.
- 42:27Speaker 9: They're components of broader global restructuring agenda linked to net
- 42:32Speaker 9: zero and climate finance. You know, se s's and freeports
- 42:37Speaker 9: could become hubs, will become hubs for net zero infrastructure.
- 42:41Speaker 9: These the projects are often bankrolled by public money but
- 42:45Speaker 9: controlled by private interest, creating greenwashing and private you know,
- 42:49Speaker 9: public private control. So it's all about PPE public private
- 42:54Speaker 9: partnerships controlling the freeports. So you don't know what's going
- 42:58Speaker 9: in and out of these ports. Could be anything. It
- 43:01Speaker 9: could be it could be drug trafficking, it could be
- 43:03Speaker 9: people trafficking. It could be anything. Because they're not regulated,
- 43:07Speaker 9: they make up their own rules and they profit from
- 43:10Speaker 9: from these the free trade that's going through them. That's
- 43:14Speaker 9: the problem. You know, se S is aligned with the
- 43:17Speaker 9: STG goals like sustainable industry and resilient infrastructure, but in
- 43:22Speaker 9: practice they concentrate control into few hands. That's the problem.
- 43:26Speaker 9: They enable technocratic governance, They support datification and surveillance under
- 43:31Speaker 9: smart city models. You know, this is there're they're stepping
- 43:37Speaker 9: stones towards a post democratic world. Really, they embed unelected
- 43:42Speaker 9: corporate power, they serve net zero and technocratic control goals.
- 43:47Speaker 9: So in essence, these these are a real stepping zone
- 43:52Speaker 9: to taking the power away from the people and UK
- 43:56Speaker 9: government and government and turning into technocratic governments. Now, this
- 44:01Speaker 9: is the progression of the se z's will ultimately be
- 44:06Speaker 9: the Charter Cities Plan, which is almost like the se
- 44:10Speaker 9: Z's on steroids. These are semi autonomous zones with a
- 44:14Speaker 9: sovereign state, so they're almost like a state within a state.
- 44:17Speaker 9: They operate a bit like Canary War. We've got their
- 44:21Speaker 9: own policing system and they've got their own laws. So
- 44:26Speaker 9: it's it really is it is there to attract foreign
- 44:29Speaker 9: investors by offering better rules. Are you more favorable to
- 44:33Speaker 9: capital and and you know who runs it, private entities
- 44:37Speaker 9: and foreign governments. Do we really want this?
- 44:39Speaker 3: No?
- 44:40Speaker 9: We you know it will cause you know, it will
- 44:43Speaker 9: cause less transparency and less control for the people of
- 44:48Speaker 9: this country.
- 44:50Speaker 1: Sandy, thank you very much. In my mind once again
- 44:53Speaker 1: then goes to your key point, which you've been talking
- 44:56Speaker 1: about now for months and months, which is the power
- 44:59Speaker 1: of the public private partnerships in taking not any commercial
- 45:04Speaker 1: control away from people at local level, but effectively political
- 45:09Speaker 1: political control.
- 45:10Speaker 8: And importantly and people really and I think you can
- 45:14Speaker 8: really see it in what we've covered today is that
- 45:17Speaker 8: this has already been done right, so the system has
- 45:21Speaker 8: already been specified, funded, planned out. They put the agreements
- 45:27Speaker 8: in place. Bristol signed up for a twenty year deal
- 45:31Speaker 8: just one example, and they're building it. We've never been
- 45:35Speaker 8: asked about it, no one's ever voted for it. We're
- 45:37Speaker 8: paying for it through our taxation and through these clandestine
- 45:44Speaker 8: public private deals that they're putting in place, and there's
- 45:48Speaker 8: been absolutely no discussion about it whatsoever. Is just being
- 45:53Speaker 8: done through coercion.
- 45:55Speaker 1: Absolutely, Vanessa, ideal time to bring you back on screen
- 46:00Speaker 1: because you've been doing some really unique investigation into what's
- 46:04Speaker 1: been going on in the background with Israel, and apparently
- 46:07Speaker 1: we can relax because Israel is now going to look
- 46:10Speaker 1: after our not in our health in the NHS, but
- 46:13Speaker 1: it's also going to look after our mental health. What
- 46:16Speaker 1: have you been discovering?
- 46:18Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, not only is it going to prescribe for
- 46:23Speaker 6: us based on our DNA and our mental our capacity
- 46:28Speaker 6: for mental health problems. Of course it's going to store
- 46:32Speaker 6: that DNA on Zionist partisan cloud storage belonging to Oracle.
- 46:39Speaker 6: Now I'm going to start banging the twenty thirty Roadmap
- 46:42Speaker 6: for UK Israel Bilateral Relations drum again.
- 46:46Speaker 3: I know I keep bringing this.
- 46:47Speaker 6: Up, but it's incredibly important for people to understand fully
- 46:52Speaker 6: what this really means. So let's just have a look
- 46:55Speaker 6: at part of that document relating to pandemic preparedness. So
- 47:01Speaker 6: COVID nineteen continuing cooperation and information sharing to effectively tackle
- 47:07Speaker 6: COVID nineteen sharing best practices definitely in inverted commas, through
- 47:13Speaker 6: partnering the best of UK and Israeli expertise. It then
- 47:16Speaker 6: goes on to say that basically the PAN Northern Health
- 47:21Speaker 6: Tech Gateway, building on the UK Israel Health Tech Gateway
- 47:25Speaker 6: that was launched in May twenty twenty two and that
- 47:28Speaker 6: we covered on the UK column, we pledged to work
- 47:31Speaker 6: together to tackle major healthcare challenges, establishing a long term partnership. So,
- 47:36Speaker 6: in other words, people can freeze frame and read the
- 47:38Speaker 6: whole thing, or they can go to whatever website they
- 47:42Speaker 6: use or website browser they use and check out the
- 47:45Speaker 6: twenty thirty roadmap. I really recommend it because it's pretty
- 47:49Speaker 6: horrifying how Israel is going to infiltrate every sector of
- 47:53Speaker 6: British society. So today what I'm looking at is mental
- 47:57Speaker 6: health as you mentioned, Brian, and this is an AI technology.
- 48:05Speaker 3: What do you call it?
- 48:06Speaker 6: App predict its October twenty twenty two, So just after
- 48:11Speaker 6: that Israel Tech startup collaboration began new UK Israel collaboration
- 48:19Speaker 6: to bring innovative mental health treatment solutions to the NHS
- 48:24Speaker 6: in the UK. And at the bottom in the small print,
- 48:27Speaker 6: it basically says grounded research research team at Rotherham, Doncaster,
- 48:33Speaker 6: southumber NHS Foundation Trust groundbreaking collaboration with Israeli digital health
- 48:40Speaker 6: company Talias. Now Talias is effectively the developer of the
- 48:44Speaker 6: predicted Its app or system. So let's have a look
- 48:48Speaker 6: at their pr video to demonstrate exactly what this does.
- 48:55Speaker 10: Meet talias killering the rate treatment for each individual. A
- 49:00Speaker 10: groundbreaking genetic, clinical and demographic based tool designed using a
- 49:06Speaker 10: unique and sophisticated platform of predictive machine learning algorithms. A
- 49:11Speaker 10: unique tool that has been validated against the world's largest
- 49:14Speaker 10: data sets.
- 49:15Speaker 8: Here's how it works.
- 49:16Speaker 10: A DNA sample is taken from the patient in a
- 49:19Speaker 10: simple and painless process. A number of background questions are
- 49:23Speaker 10: uploaded to the cloud and the Teleias tool goes to work.
- 49:26Speaker 8: The data goes.
- 49:27Speaker 10: Through cross analysis using prediction algorithms based on countless comparisons
- 49:31Speaker 10: between genetic and clinical data of patients around the world.
- 49:35Speaker 10: Within a short amount of time, a recommendation is received
- 49:38Speaker 10: on the most suitable treatment for the individual. This is
- 49:42Speaker 10: how healthcare should be Telias, tailoring the right treatment for
- 49:46Speaker 10: each individual.
- 49:50Speaker 1: VANESSI, yes we were smiling. We were smiling as well,
- 49:56Speaker 1: but really we shouldn't be smiling because this is such
- 50:00Speaker 1: dangerous this is such dangerous policy. Never mind the technology, well,
- 50:06Speaker 1: I mean it's fast track to medication.
- 50:10Speaker 6: It doesn't factor in finding other solutions to people's mental
- 50:15Speaker 6: health issues. It's fast tracking to medication based on your
- 50:19Speaker 6: DNA results. And worth noting your demographic factors also are
- 50:25Speaker 6: being factored into the final medication prescription and the fact
- 50:32Speaker 6: that that DNA is then being stored on the cloud
- 50:36Speaker 6: that is also being operated by effectively an Israeli company
- 50:40Speaker 6: that is managing the UK Ministry of Defense, Ministry of
- 50:44Speaker 6: Health and so on. So let's have a look again
- 50:47Speaker 6: at how it works, just for people to understand it.
- 50:50Speaker 6: So first of all, you will have a digital question
- 50:53Speaker 6: the note that you're not expected to go in and
- 50:56Speaker 6: actually talk to somebody, which in many cases would actually
- 50:59Speaker 6: result of any minor mental.
- 51:02Speaker 3: Hit issues that you might have.
- 51:04Speaker 6: You then have the genetic test, which is an odd
- 51:09Speaker 6: naming of it or labeling of it, which again will
- 51:12Speaker 6: collect your DNA through a cheek swab, and this decides
- 51:18Speaker 6: if you are predisposed to mental health issues. So in
- 51:21Speaker 6: other words, you might be given medication even if you
- 51:26Speaker 6: are not currently suffering with mental health issues.
- 51:29Speaker 3: In my opinion, that's how I'm interpreting this.
- 51:33Speaker 6: Then the personalized report, which will give the results digital
- 51:37Speaker 6: or in a personal consultation, So finally we get to
- 51:41Speaker 6: hear about.
- 51:42Speaker 3: A personal consultation.
- 51:44Speaker 6: And then effectively prescription precision medication prescribing the tailor treatment
- 51:51Speaker 6: and dosage for your patient, but do they actually need
- 51:55Speaker 6: that medication. Then it goes on to explain step into
- 52:00Speaker 6: the future of mental health prescribing with predictives. Predictis in
- 52:05Speaker 6: your clinic improve patient care.
- 52:07Speaker 3: With beta clinical outcomes.
- 52:09Speaker 6: Well I'm not sure that's the case, because again there's
- 52:12Speaker 6: no personal interaction at all optimize time and clinical efficiency.
- 52:16Speaker 6: So this is all about optimizing time and efficiency. It's
- 52:20Speaker 6: the disintegration of the mental health system, just as we've
- 52:24Speaker 6: seen the national health system being also broken down. Increase
- 52:31Speaker 6: in revenue with superior outcomes on Earth. What bearing does
- 52:36Speaker 6: this have on successful treatment of mental health in the UK?
- 52:40Speaker 6: And it claims to be hip R and GDPR compliant.
- 52:44Speaker 6: And then let's sort of look at the drugs that
- 52:46Speaker 6: are among those that will be put forward by predictis.
- 52:52Speaker 6: So there you have.
- 52:52Speaker 3: I'm not going to read them all out.
- 52:54Speaker 6: People again can prease frame them and have a look
- 52:56Speaker 6: at them and have a look at the debilitating effects
- 52:59Speaker 6: of the majority of these drugs that are going to
- 53:02Speaker 6: be wheeled out with very little checks and balances on
- 53:06Speaker 6: the prescription of those drugs. And then guess what I
- 53:09Speaker 6: want to come on to who are actually the founders
- 53:12Speaker 6: and CEOs of talias that are putting forward the predicteds
- 53:18Speaker 6: AI system, remembering of course that Israel is responsible for
- 53:23Speaker 6: AI systems that have been basically used to generate the
- 53:28Speaker 6: genocide of Palestinians. So the first the CEO, Dr Teckle,
- 53:33Speaker 6: Talia's co founder served as an infantry officer in the
- 53:37Speaker 6: Israeli military. He had admission strategy and planning, making high
- 53:42Speaker 6: pressure decisions to save lives in combat conditions. He's now
- 53:46Speaker 6: in charge or is certainly part of the collaboration in
- 53:51Speaker 6: the UK towards the mental health system. And then secondly
- 53:56Speaker 6: his brother ornkaliaz CFO and co founder previous this has
- 54:01Speaker 6: taken from their website, previously led a private security guard
- 54:05Speaker 6: team for the Eisenberg family. I had to actually look
- 54:08Speaker 6: up who the Eisenberg family is. There are very influential
- 54:13Speaker 6: Zionist family that has connections to mettin Yahoo and members
- 54:20Speaker 6: of the Kinesset Commanded Special Infantry Unit and the iOS
- 54:25Speaker 6: experience in combat. So then let's go on to the
- 54:30Speaker 6: Northern Health Science Alliance improving mentors in Yorkshire and Humber
- 54:35Speaker 6: and Northern partnership was launched in twenty twenty three. If
- 54:39Speaker 6: we have a look at the members of the NHSA,
- 54:44Speaker 6: we can see the universities and NHS organizations that are involved.
- 54:49Speaker 3: Again, you can free frame it and have a look
- 54:52Speaker 3: at it.
- 54:52Speaker 6: But you've got Sheffield University, York, Liverpool, Manchester, Durham tea
- 54:57Speaker 6: side and can't read the Bookom Licashire things call Lincolnshire,
- 55:04Speaker 6: but you can thank you, and a number of the
- 55:07Speaker 6: NHS sectors were also heavily involved in it. Now the
- 55:11Speaker 6: partnership is with the Northern Innovation Accelerator Mental Health Phase
- 55:17Speaker 6: one Northern Innovation Acceleration for Mental Health partnering with the
- 55:23Speaker 6: NHSA to improve apparently your mental health.
- 55:28Speaker 3: So let's have a look at what they say.
- 55:29Speaker 6: Improving mental health in Yorkshire and Humber. Note that the
- 55:33Speaker 6: focus is very much in Northern UK. They're working in
- 55:37Speaker 6: collaboration with innovators to develop and evaluate mental health solutions
- 55:41Speaker 6: within the NHS, reaching a potential of seventeen million patients.
- 55:46Speaker 3: Brian, I don't know about your opinion, but I find
- 55:49Speaker 3: this terrifying.
- 55:51Speaker 6: Seventeen million patients. What they're effectively saying there are seventeen
- 55:55Speaker 6: million potential patients for mental health care and Medicaid based
- 56:01Speaker 6: on their DNA and demographics. Doctor Mandy Dixon, who's head
- 56:06Speaker 6: of Corporate Engagement in the NHSA. Not necessari sorry, that's
- 56:11Speaker 6: a typo by need, she says, post pandemics. And note
- 56:15Speaker 6: the connection with COVID nineteen that was also picked up
- 56:18Speaker 6: in the roadmap for Israel in the UK, the need
- 56:23Speaker 6: to innovate in mental health services is greater than ever,
- 56:27Speaker 6: particularly with growing evidence of the economic impact of poor
- 56:31Speaker 6: mental health on the economic recovery, not on the patient,
- 56:36Speaker 6: not on the human beings that suffered mental health issues
- 56:39Speaker 6: as a result of the measures taken during the pandemics
- 56:42Speaker 6: such as lockdown and so on, and leading to depression
- 56:46Speaker 6: and unemployment and multiple other consequences of the lockdown measures,
- 56:53Speaker 6: but to ferment basically economic recovery. So the focus on
- 56:59Speaker 6: economic benefits to the state and to the NHS here
- 57:02Speaker 6: are quite extraordinary, over and above the benefits to the
- 57:06Speaker 6: patient themselves. And then basically let's have a look at
- 57:10Speaker 6: who the exemplars or the partners are in this. So
- 57:13Speaker 6: first of all tell us that we've been speaking about,
- 57:16Speaker 6: but also a company called mind Life, which talks about
- 57:19Speaker 6: testing several digital innovations to improve mental health therapy and
- 57:25Speaker 6: treatment outcomes, in.
- 57:27Speaker 3: Including remote group therapy.
- 57:29Speaker 6: So again we have this idea of remote group therapy
- 57:33Speaker 6: with a self help app. So suddenly mental health issues
- 57:38Speaker 6: are going to be dealt with remotely.
- 57:40Speaker 3: I mean, I'm kind of laughing at.
- 57:41Speaker 6: This because it is so insane to me. What helps
- 57:46Speaker 6: people with mental health issues is communication and being able
- 57:50Speaker 6: to speak to another human being and receiving some kind
- 57:53Speaker 6: of empathy back. They're not going to receive empathy through
- 57:57Speaker 6: a self help app. But then let's have a look
- 58:00Speaker 6: to the allback, who's the CEO of mind Life and
- 58:05Speaker 6: guess what he grew up And he was educated in
- 58:08Speaker 6: Israel technology at the Israeli Institute of Technology and is
- 58:14Speaker 6: now involved alongside Palias in mental health treatment through apps
- 58:21Speaker 6: in the UK. I mean, I personally, I find this
- 58:23Speaker 6: horrifying based on the fact that Israel is currently conducting
- 58:27Speaker 6: a genocide since October seventh, twenty twenty three, in Palestine.
- 58:33Speaker 6: It is militarily expanding into the region, causing deprivation decimation
- 58:40Speaker 6: of the countries where it is advancing rapidly, including Syria
- 58:44Speaker 6: and Lebanon, and here it is heavily involved in the
- 58:48Speaker 6: treatment of people in the UK with mental health issues
- 58:51Speaker 6: and fast tracking them to medication, which for me, should
- 58:54Speaker 6: be a final solution. It's certainly not something that people
- 58:59Speaker 6: should be for into because they're DNA says so. And
- 59:03Speaker 6: part of their mission statement is to reduce the number
- 59:07Speaker 6: of patient patients dropping out of treatment. That's on their website.
- 59:13Speaker 6: So they're actually looking to prevent people recovering from mental
- 59:17Speaker 6: health issues and to prevent them getting off the medication
- 59:23Speaker 6: that they've been put on through these AI systems that
- 59:27Speaker 6: are now being introduced that have been developed in Israel.
- 59:32Speaker 1: Vanessa, thank you very much for a really outstanding segment there,
- 59:36Speaker 1: and my goodness, the idea that we should be feeling
- 59:40Speaker 1: confidence because we have members of Israeli defense forces who
- 59:44Speaker 1: are now coming in not only to run the NHS
- 59:47Speaker 1: but also look after our mental health. This is, i
- 59:51Speaker 1: could say, extraordinary. But if we go back to twenty
- 59:55Speaker 1: ten through to twenty fifteen, the UK column was warning
- 59:59Speaker 1: and warning what the Conservative government was doing. We had
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: Francis Maud on screen earlier in Today's News, and of course,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: as well as introducing applied behavioral psychology to help terrify
- 1:00:13Speaker 1: the British population into doing the bidding of the in
- 1:00:17Speaker 1: post political system, he was also agreeing for our intelligence
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: services to be fully entwined and linked up with not
- 1:00:27Speaker 1: only Israeli intelligence units such as Unit eight two zero zero,
- 1:00:32Speaker 1: but also there was going to be a quote partnership
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: between British and Israeli universities. None of this, none of it,
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: ever discussed in Parliament, so most MP's totally unaware of
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: what's going on, and now this pernicious public private partnership
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: with Israel is moving through to cover mental health. If
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: there's anybody in our audience today, whether you're in UK
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: were worldwide, that does not understand how dangerous this is
- 1:01:05Speaker 1: and how significant it is, then I really don't know
- 1:01:09Speaker 1: what to say. But Ben, we've got people at work
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: totally unaccountable, being given more and more power, not only
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: in an economic sense, but over our personalities and our bodies.
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: It's quite incredible, isn't it.
- 1:01:26Speaker 8: Just Yeah, I mean that's the weaponization of the health
- 1:01:29Speaker 8: system against the population who's paying for it. Yeah.
- 1:01:33Speaker 1: Okay, Well, Vanessa, Vanessa and Sandy thank you very much
- 1:01:39Speaker 1: for joining us. We're out of time. But before I
- 1:01:41Speaker 1: leave the news today, I just want to hold up
- 1:01:45Speaker 1: a couple of publications. This one I was given at
- 1:01:48Speaker 1: the Cambridge conference. It's called The Whole Truth about Ukraine's
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: crimes in don Bass. I couldn't put any of the
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: opening images on screen because these are showing people who've
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: been not only killed but maimed as a result of shelling.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: So a lot of incredible information came to the surface,
- 1:02:10Speaker 1: and I'm going to try and think of a way
- 1:02:12Speaker 1: that UK column can help promulgate this very factual analysis
- 1:02:16Speaker 1: of some really horrible events in Ukraine. But probably this
- 1:02:20Speaker 1: is also a place to end the news. Sorry if
- 1:02:22Speaker 1: I just bring that this was a booklet given to
- 1:02:25Speaker 1: me at the Cambridge event. It's called the American Goolag Chronicles,
- 1:02:30Speaker 1: and this is a really amazing book Letters from Prison.
- 1:02:35Speaker 1: These are letters written by prisoners who were put in
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: prison as a result of the Capitol Hilt, the so
- 1:02:42Speaker 1: called Capitol Hill riots, and it's a story of just
- 1:02:46Speaker 1: total abuse of these individuals within the American prison system.
- 1:02:52Speaker 1: So I'm going to end today's news really where I
- 1:02:55Speaker 1: started with that Cambridge event. People need to understand that
- 1:02:59Speaker 1: the idea of freedom and democracy in the West is
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: an illusion. We are under massive attack, not only our families,
- 1:03:08Speaker 1: but us individuals. Our very bodies and minds are under attack.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: And this is happening while we're also distracted with these
- 1:03:16Speaker 1: terrible overseas events in Ukraine or in Yemen, or in Palestine,
- 1:03:24Speaker 1: wherever it's taking place. So we need to be discerning
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: and as somebody said in our chat box, evil doesn't
- 1:03:31Speaker 1: manifest through a group of people. It manifests through individuals.
- 1:03:36Speaker 1: So we need to be judging people on an individual
- 1:03:39Speaker 1: basis if we're going to get the top off what's
- 1:03:42Speaker 1: really happening to us in twenty twenty five. Will end there,
- 1:03:46Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining UK column News. We
- 1:03:50Speaker 1: are having a break this weekend, so no UK column
- 1:03:53Speaker 1: on Friday or Monday, but Friday and Monday we will
- 1:03:58Speaker 1: put out talks from that Cambridge peace conference. We'll end there.
- 1:04:03Speaker 1: Thank you very much for joining us, and thank you
- 1:04:05Speaker 1: for joining me. Bye bye.