Latest / New Teacher Talk / Ep 130: Keeping Students in the Game Throughout the Year
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- 0:02Welcome to New Teacher Talk,
- 0:04the podcast that's all about empowering early career and
- 0:08aspiring educators like you.
- 0:10Whether your classroom is in a rural area,
- 0:13the suburbs or the city,
- 0:15we're here to provide guidance and inspiration for your
- 0:18teaching practice.
- 0:20Glad you've joined us today.
- 0:22I'm Dr.
- 0:23Anna.
- 0:24And I'm Dr.
- 0:24Beth.
- 0:25Today, we are talking about something every teacher faces,
- 0:29keeping our students engaged when motivation starts to
- 0:33wane.
- 0:35You know, Beth,
- 0:35I was just telling a first year teacher yesterday that the
- 0:39spring slump is real.
- 0:41What are you seeing with the teachers you mentor?
- 0:44That's an excellent question, Anna.
- 0:46So many of them are worried that it's something that they
- 0:50are doing wrong.
- 0:51I always try and reassure them that motivation naturally
- 0:55ebbs and flows.
- 0:57The key is having strategies ready when they see those
- 1:02early warning signs.
- 1:04Exactly.
- 1:06Those blank stares, the heads on the desks.
- 1:10What are your go-to strategies when you notice engagement
- 1:13dropping?
- 1:15I'm a big believer Anna,
- 1:16in simply changing the state of the room.
- 1:20If we've been sitting too long, which can happen, we stand.
- 1:25If we've been working independently, we switch to pairs.
- 1:28Sometimes that physical reset is all the students need.
- 1:34Beth, I love that.
- 1:35I also when I'm teaching try to build in what I call small
- 1:39wins when I see motivation dipping.
- 1:42I try to bring in something that students can master
- 1:46quickly before tackling harder stuff.
- 1:51That is a brilliant suggestion.
- 1:53Students really do need to feel successful in what you've
- 1:56recommended makes good sense,
- 1:58especially when their confidence is lagging.
- 2:01I always keep what I call a "Motivation Emergency Kit" at
- 2:05the ready.
- 2:07Beth, tell me more about that.
- 2:09Well,
- 2:10that emergency kit has a few high engagement activities
- 2:13that require minimal prep,
- 2:14but they get everybody in the classroom involved.
- 2:18My favorite is Expert Challenge Cards.
- 2:21Those are really cool.
- 2:23The students pick a card with a concept that we've covered.
- 2:27They get to spend three minutes becoming the expert using
- 2:30the notes that they have,
- 2:32and then they teach another student.
- 2:35It gets everybody moving and talking in the classroom.
- 2:39I'm stealing that idea.
- 2:41I have a trove of 3x5 cards.
- 2:45For me, it always comes back to relationships, though.
- 2:49Students work harder for teachers they feel connected to.
- 2:53I make sure to greet everyone at the door, use their names,
- 2:57and check in personally when I notice engagement dropping.
- 3:02Well, as teachers, that is so true.
- 3:04That connection is everything.
- 3:06And speaking of connection,
- 3:08I'd like to talk about those crucial one-on-one
- 3:11conversations with consistently disengaged students.
- 3:15We all have students like that.
- 3:17So what's your approach, Anna?
- 3:20Setting matters so much.
- 3:22So I really make an effort, Beth,
- 3:25never to have these conversations in front of peers or when
- 3:31either of us is frustrated.
- 3:33I invite students to have lunch in my classroom.
- 3:37I like to create that relaxed atmosphere where we can
- 3:40really talk.
- 3:42I'm really in support of that approach.
- 3:44I've done the same thing.
- 3:45You want to start with curiosity, not judgment, right?
- 3:48And something like,
- 3:50I've noticed you've seemed less interested lately.
- 3:54I'm wondering what's going on for you.
- 3:57Questions like that are really good conversation starters.
- 4:02Exactly, and then this is crucial.
- 4:06Listen more than you talk.
- 4:08To understand anyone else's perspective, that's critical.
- 4:13I've had students share everything from,
- 4:16I'm bored because I already know this material,
- 4:19to serious issues happening at home,
- 4:22and different causes need different approaches.
- 4:26I agree.
- 4:26One tool that has been surprisingly effective for me that
- 4:30another teacher told me about is to use a quick interest
- 4:35inventory.
- 4:36When I notice that a student is checking out,
- 4:39I'll have them complete a survey about their interests and
- 4:42learning preferences.
- 4:44Then we explicitly discuss how to connect those to the
- 4:48coursework that we're working on.
- 4:51That transformation from disinterest to enthusiasm,
- 4:55it's why we teach, isn't it?
- 4:57What about when it's not just one student,
- 5:00but the whole class losing steam?
- 5:04We've all seen that.
- 5:05We've all experienced that.
- 5:06So for me, that's an indication for a class meeting time.
- 5:11I'll openly acknowledge what I'm seeing.
- 5:13I'm very communicative with the students.
- 5:16Our energy seems low lately.
- 5:18Let's do some problem solving together.
- 5:21Then a simple protocol such as...
- 5:24what's working well? What's challenging right now? What's
- 5:28one change that would help you stay engaged?
- 5:32And do your students really give you helpful feedback on
- 5:35this?
- 5:36Yes, almost always.
- 5:37I find that being real and honest with them is a great way
- 5:40to open up that conversation.
- 5:43It's a trust thing.
- 5:45Students do appreciate being treated as partners in
- 5:48creating their learning environment.
- 5:50But these conversations also need to include clear
- 5:53expectations.
- 5:56For instance, I've used things such as, I've noticed,
- 6:00I'm concerned, let's try framework.
- 6:03I've noticed that you haven't been completing work during
- 6:06class.
- 6:08I'm concerned because these skills build upon each other.
- 6:12Let's try setting some small daily goals and checking in at
- 6:15the end of each class.
- 6:17Using a framework like that strikes a perfect balance of
- 6:21support without enabling the student to just continue on.
- 6:26It shows that you have their best interests at heart,
- 6:30that you're noticing something about them,
- 6:33and that you care.
- 6:35And another way is to change the classroom setting.
- 6:39And this brings us to one of my favorite things to do in
- 6:42the spring, field trips.
- 6:44It is one of the best engagement tools in our arsenal,
- 6:49but it's also often underutilized.
- 6:53How do you use field trips to make the most of your
- 6:57classroom experience?
- 7:01What I've learned over the years and what advice I give to
- 7:03early career teachers that I mentor and coach is it's
- 7:07really in the preparation before and the reflection
- 7:10afterward for the students.
- 7:13Before a trip,
- 7:14build anticipation by connecting it to the learning goals
- 7:18that are happening. Also,
- 7:20afterwards process together. Ask questions such as what
- 7:25surprised you?
- 7:26How does this connect to what we've been studying?
- 7:30Oh, yes.
- 7:31And you know, Beth,
- 7:31I just read an interesting article about using the
- 7:36Montessori method to engage students in the preparation for
- 7:41a field trip, and we'll put that link into our show notes.
- 7:47That's really cool.
- 7:49And you know,
- 7:50just last week we had put together something about
- 7:53preparation for the day of your field trip,
- 7:56so we'll put that in the show notes, too.
- 7:59That sounds great.
- 8:00Always good, helpful resources, and they're free.
- 8:03Absolutely! Free is the best.
- 8:06Which brings me to the question,
- 8:09how do we manage field trips if we have limited classroom
- 8:13budgets?
- 8:14Oh, boy, we all have limited budgets.
- 8:16It's just hard to go anywhere these days.
- 8:19Sometimes it's just hard to even leave the building.
- 8:22So I'm a huge fan or a big proponent of creating many field
- 8:27trips.
- 8:28I've taken students to the school garden to observe plant
- 8:31adaptations,
- 8:33to the cafeteria in our school to interview staff about
- 8:37food waste,
- 8:38even just going to the parking lot for a geometry lesson on
- 8:42measuring angles and distances.
- 8:45What have been your experiences, Anna?
- 8:48Oh,
- 8:48I've been out to the parking lot with chalk to draw geometric
- 8:52figures.
- 8:55Oh yeah,
- 8:55kids love that far more than doing it on paper inside the
- 8:59building.
- 9:01I've also had a lot of experience with virtual experiences.
- 9:06They can be really powerful.
- 9:08You can have a Zoom interview with experts.
- 9:11I've had Zooms with a lot of authors of children's
- 9:15literature.
- 9:16And these Zoom experiences provide a window to the wider
- 9:21world when you can't physically go there.
- 9:25Very cost effective, absolutely.
- 9:27And however you do it,
- 9:29make sure that there's a connection back to the classroom
- 9:32learning, that's key.
- 9:34After visiting a local watershed,
- 9:36my students created public service announcements, or PSAs,
- 9:39if you will, about water conservation.
- 9:42The field trip wasn't just a one-off,
- 9:45but it was a launching point for deeper investigation that
- 9:49we wanted to do.
- 9:52And any time that you can do that kind of experience that
- 9:57just kicks off a unit is really exciting for students.
- 10:03And I find that having students document their experiences
- 10:08and then teach others is particularly effective.
- 10:12Knowing they'll be the experts later heightens their
- 10:15attention during the trip itself.
- 10:18One day we had adult tourists following my third grade
- 10:22class around the exhibit at the Field Museum because they
- 10:27had been prepared and looked at pictures of the artifacts
- 10:30we were going to see.
- 10:32And so then they would stand in front of that artifact and
- 10:36give all the background knowledge about it.
- 10:39It was fascinating.
- 10:41Oh my goodness. That engagement what you did,
- 10:43that's really cool,
- 10:44and the students really like the opportunity to interact
- 10:48with their peers. Those relationships...
- 10:50the relationships that are built during those shared
- 10:53experiences, as in the case of your field museum example,
- 10:57often translate just to better classroom dynamics. Field
- 11:01trips obviously create natural opportunities for students
- 11:06to see different sides of each other that extend beyond the
- 11:09classroom. And for us as teachers to really see different
- 11:14sides of our students.
- 11:17That's so true, Beth.
- 11:18Do you have any final advice for new teachers planning
- 11:21their first field trips?
- 11:24You know, start small and build from there.
- 11:27My first field trip was just taking my students to the
- 11:32football field to get a sense of how the band would look
- 11:35out there to the people in the stands.
- 11:38That's moving a lot of students to a larger space,
- 11:41focusing on what the learning objectives were rather than
- 11:45just trying to pack in too much.
- 11:47So that would be my best advice.
- 11:49Start small, build from there,
- 11:50stay focused on the objectives and really streamline the
- 11:53process.
- 11:56And it's important to involve students in the planning
- 11:58whenever possible.
- 12:00When they help research options or prepare questions,
- 12:04they're more invested in the experience.
- 12:07I agree.
- 12:08Anna, before we wrap up,
- 12:09do you have any final thoughts on keeping students in the
- 12:12game throughout the school year?
- 12:15That's a good question, Beth.
- 12:17We have to remember that our own enthusiasm is contagious.
- 12:22When you are genuinely excited about what you're teaching,
- 12:25students pick up on that energy that you give off.
- 12:29Find ways to connect your curriculum to your own personal
- 12:33interests, and don't be afraid to let your passion show.
- 12:38And don't forget to build a community with other teachers
- 12:41in your building.
- 12:43Teachers you know in other school districts,
- 12:45other teachers online through social media,
- 12:49share what's working.
- 12:51Some of my best motivation strategies came from casual
- 12:54conversations in the staff room,
- 12:56through coffee get-togethers with others from a different
- 13:01district,
- 13:02not those formal professional development opportunities.
- 13:05T
- 13:07That is so true, Beth.
- 13:09And to all of our new teacher listeners,
- 13:12keeping students engaged isn't about being perfect or
- 13:15having elaborate plans every day.
- 13:18It's about consistent care, authentic relationships,
- 13:22and a willingness to adjust when something isn't working.
- 13:27And, I would add to that great advice, Anna.
- 13:29Be patient with yourself.
- 13:31Celebrate the small wins and keep building your toolkit.
- 13:36That's what we do as teachers.
- 13:38We continue to grow and get better at what we do and add to
- 13:41that toolkit.
- 13:42Your students are lucky to have someone like you who really
- 13:46cares enough to look for ways to keep them motivated.
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