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The Photoshop Fail · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Sarah's Day says Booktopia is
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  Speaker 1: holding her cookbooks hostage. Why fans are convinced Anna Paul's
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  Speaker 1: family friend is actually her boyfriend. Tully Smythe's Photoshop fail
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  Speaker 1: and Shani Grimmon returns to vlogging. But first, a clip
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  Speaker 1: of Rachel Dillon's sister singing at her wedding is dividing
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  Speaker 1: the internet. At the time of recording, the clip has
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  Speaker 1: racked up over 1 million views and has had 7,000 send-ons.
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  Speaker 1: Whilst many people have praised the special sister moment, other
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  Speaker 1: corners of the internet have mocked the bridesmaid's singing ability.
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  Speaker 1: Let's throw to the clip.
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  Speaker 2: I would now like to sing a song dedicated to
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  Speaker 2: Rachel and Toby and their love story.
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  Speaker 1: Those times you stood by me. I'm going to cry.
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  Speaker 2: By me.
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  Speaker 3: For all the truth that you made me see.
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  Speaker 1: For all the joy you bring to my life.
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  Speaker 2: For all the wrong that you may write. For every
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  Speaker 2: dream you may come true.
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  Speaker 1: For all the love I found in you. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: forever thankful, baby.
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  Speaker 3: You're the one who held me up and never let
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  Speaker 3: me fall.
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  Speaker 1: Now, a lot of people in our Facebook community have
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  Speaker 1: been talking about this clip and it has been a
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  Speaker 1: highly requested topic for us to cover. Yeah, this thread
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  Speaker 1: got pretty heated. It actually got removed by the original
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  Speaker 1: poster because they were copying a lot of flack because
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  Speaker 1: people thought they were being somewhat judgmental and negative towards
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  Speaker 1: Emma's singing abilities. Yeah. So before we get into our thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: I want to point out that Rachel is also an influencer.
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  Speaker 1: She has over 400,000 followers and the sisters have been
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  Speaker 1: sharing content alongside each other for years. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that is why people feel comfortable to comment on her
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  Speaker 1: singing abilities. I think if this had just been a
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  Speaker 1: family member who didn't have a public profile, people would
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  Speaker 1: have felt differently about it. Yeah. And Emma is also
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  Speaker 1: not a professional singer. However, Rachel has said that one
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  Speaker 1: of her favorite memories from childhood is watching her sister
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  Speaker 1: singing at recitals. Following Rachel's post, there were a couple
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  Speaker 1: of people who accused Emma of trying to steal Rachel's spotlight.
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  Speaker 1: And I feel like we have, as a society, become
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  Speaker 1: obsessed with this concept that when someone has a wedding,
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  Speaker 1: there's people out there in their own family and their
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  Speaker 1: own friendship group who are out to get them. when
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  Speaker 1: it is just not the case at all. Generally, most
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  Speaker 1: people want their sister to have the best day possible.
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  Speaker 1: And Rachel asked her sister to perform at her wedding.
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  Speaker 1: So she obviously wasn't concerned about her stealing the spotlight. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is a very important point because Rachel was quite
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  Speaker 1: surprised when Emma said yes, and she was so grateful
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  Speaker 1: and so happy because Emma is really putting herself out there.
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  Speaker 1: This is an enormous moment, not only, you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the life of her sister and But it's an enormous
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  Speaker 1: social media moment because there were so many eyeballs on
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  Speaker 1: this wedding. And as you can hear in the clip,
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  Speaker 1: Emma appears incredibly nervous. And at the start of the song,
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  Speaker 1: she almost breaks down in tears. And you can see
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  Speaker 1: she really has to pull herself together to actually get
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  Speaker 1: through the song. And at a few points, her voice
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  Speaker 1: cracks in the song, which I actually think added a
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  Speaker 1: lot of emotion to it. It reminds me of when
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  Speaker 1: Kurt Till's surprised Sarah's day with a performance at their wedding.
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  Speaker 1: So we got up on stage. And he got into
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  Speaker 1: the first line and just broke down into tears. But
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  Speaker 1: I think it's all about the recovery. The fact that
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  Speaker 1: both Kurt and Emma were able to recover and then
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  Speaker 1: do the whole song in front of a large group
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  Speaker 1: of people is pretty commendable. This is giving me flashbacks
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  Speaker 1: to before my wedding. My husband, Dale, told me that
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  Speaker 1: he had been thinking of performing a song.
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  Speaker 3: At our wedding.
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  Speaker 1: And it was at that moment I thought, do I
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  Speaker 1: even know you? Like he's never once... sung professionally or
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  Speaker 1: sung at any point really other than in the car. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I have never personally heard him sing. I mean, we've
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  Speaker 1: had many bonfires together and it's not like he's the
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  Speaker 1: guy that will grab the guitar and start singing along.
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  Speaker 1: There is something a little bit cringe, I have to say,
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  Speaker 1: when a friend or family member does go up to sing.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's what people were projecting on this
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  Speaker 1: moment because you can kind of see in the crowd
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  Speaker 1: a few awkward faces, not because it was a bad performance,
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  Speaker 1: but it's kind of that moment where you're like, as
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  Speaker 1: an audience member, don't laugh or you kind of, you
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  Speaker 1: almost feel anxious for the person that's put themselves out there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that the videographer, when they edited this clip,
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  Speaker 1: was aware that they flashed to this crowd member who
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  Speaker 1: almost looked stunned or as if he was like, what
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  Speaker 1: the fuck is going on? Like, I don't think he
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  Speaker 1: meant to have that expression, but that's how it came across.
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  Speaker 1: I also don't think that it helped that the microphone
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  Speaker 1: seemed to have this weird echoey effect on it. And
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  Speaker 1: because she was singing acapella, she was singing really loudly
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  Speaker 1: so that everyone could hear. But then her voice was
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  Speaker 1: too loud for the microphone. So it was blasting it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. I think people were being critical, not of
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  Speaker 1: her voice, but it was actually the audio that let
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  Speaker 1: her down. Because she actually had a really nice voice.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very pleasant voice and it would have
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  Speaker 1: taken a lot of courage to get up there. This
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  Speaker 1: song was also a Celine Dion song. particularly easy to
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  Speaker 1: sing no and it was acapella that's what really shocked
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  Speaker 1: me with the amount of money that they probably poured
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  Speaker 1: into this wedding Could they get the poor girl a band?
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  Speaker 1: Because she looked so lonely standing there. That's what added
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  Speaker 1: to the awkwardness of it. I thought you were going
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  Speaker 1: to say, could they have at least afforded Celine Dion
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  Speaker 1: to perform? Well, no, I mean, poor Celine Dion is
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  Speaker 1: having issues with her voice at the moment. So she
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to hit these notes as well. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Toby wrote on social media that this was a beautiful
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  Speaker 1: moment for us all to experience for so many reasons.
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  Speaker 1: But even more impressive than your voice and love, Emma,
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  Speaker 1: is the courage you put forward to share this with us.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Rachel added, couldn't agree more. We
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  Speaker 1: are so lucky. And I just think at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, if this couple was happy with it,
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  Speaker 1: what else matters?
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  Speaker 4: I don't take it too seriously because God only knows
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  Speaker 4: if I looked at their photos what they look like
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  Speaker 4: in real life. I also don't care.
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  Speaker 1: Like it is what it is. Popular Instagram account Celeb
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  Speaker 1: Spellcheck has dusted off the cobwebs to critique an Aussie
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  Speaker 1: influencer's horrendous Photoshop fail. Whilst the popular account occasionally posts
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  Speaker 1: about A-list celebrities and nostalgic content, she hasn't directed her
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  Speaker 1: attention to Aussie influencers for over.
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  Speaker 5: A year now.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the influencer in her site was former Big Brother
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  Speaker 1: contestant and OG influencer Tully Smythe. And the photo was
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  Speaker 1: a mirror selfie. So in it, Tully was wearing a
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  Speaker 1: slinky black dress with cutouts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And the lower half of her body looked completely warped.
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  Speaker 1: It almost looked as though she was missing a leg.
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  Speaker 1: And the normally flat floor looked like it had this
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  Speaker 1: massive speed bump running through it. Now, Celeb Spellcheck also
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  Speaker 1: shared a second photo of Tully in the same dress,
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  Speaker 1: which was posted to her Instagram story. And this time
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  Speaker 1: it was a bathroom selfie, which appeared to have a
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  Speaker 1: crooked door in it. So in the post, Celeb Spellcheck
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  Speaker 1: asked her audience if they'd tell their friend to take
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  Speaker 1: down an obviously photoshopped post. It's safe to say that
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  Speaker 1: people are happy that Celeb Spellcheck is back because the
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  Speaker 1: comment section was full. So one person joked that the
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  Speaker 1: floor looked like their local skate park, while another suggested
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  Speaker 1: that maybe Tully got her mirror from a clear-out sale
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  Speaker 1: at Luna Park. There were also other eagle-eyed followers who
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  Speaker 1: were taking the opportunity to zoom in on the photo
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  Speaker 1: more and point out other possible Photoshop mishaps. Celeb Spellcheck
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  Speaker 1: even got in on the action, saying in the comment
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  Speaker 1: section that she thought the post was satirical until she
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  Speaker 1: saw the warping in the story post as well. There
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  Speaker 1: were some followers who were sympathetic towards Tully and commented
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  Speaker 1: on the broader issue of Photoshopping and how sad it
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  Speaker 1: is for women in the public eye to feel this
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  Speaker 1: pressure to edit and manipulate their bodies. That was my
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  Speaker 1: initial response. Yeah, I felt sorry for Tully. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was shocked to see that Celeb Spellcheck was back and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, fabulous. But then for some reason
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  Speaker 1: when I saw it was a photo of Tully... I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I just felt sorry for her because, as
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  Speaker 1: you said, I don't think it's coming from a place
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  Speaker 1: of vanity or anything. I actually think it's coming from
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  Speaker 1: a place of her maybe not feeling so good about
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  Speaker 1: herself and the constant pressure to look good online. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's also the constant pressure when you're in your mid-30s. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think a lot of people assume that
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  Speaker 1: Tully is a lot younger than she is, but she's
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  Speaker 1: in her mid 30s. She's trying to live up to
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  Speaker 1: this expectation online. She's a beautiful woman. And what was
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  Speaker 1: sad was because Tully saw the post and she wrote, whoops,
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  Speaker 1: my finger slipped. And she had a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: joke about it. And then she actually ended up resharing
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  Speaker 1: the photo minus the photoshopped part. And she looked so
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  Speaker 1: much better in the photo that wasn't photoshopped. Like she
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  Speaker 1: looked amazing in it. Yeah, she explained this as being
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  Speaker 1: down to a thumb slip. And some followers were infuriated
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  Speaker 1: by Tully's explanation, saying it wasn't merely a thumb slip.
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  Speaker 1: It was a conscious effort to manipulate her photo to
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  Speaker 1: make herself look tiny on an editing app. I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it was an accident, but I think
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  Speaker 1: it was one of those moments, you know, sometimes where
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  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I might just turn up the saturation
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  Speaker 1: a bit in this photo. I mean, being a photographer,
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  Speaker 1: I'd play around with Lightroom a lot. And then sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you've just gone way too far that you look at
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  Speaker 1: the original photo and you're like, what the fuck? This
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  Speaker 1: looks completely absurd. Maybe it was one of those moments.
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  Speaker 1: Or maybe she had a couple of images that she
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  Speaker 1: had edited and she accidentally selected the draft copy or something.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very odd photo. As soon as I
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  Speaker 1: saw it, I was like, oh, my God, what has
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  Speaker 1: happened here? Other people were forgiving images. and responded to
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  Speaker 1: Tully saying, it happens to the best of us. Who cares?
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  Speaker 1: You looked amazing either way. And to her credit, Amy,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, she uploaded the non-edited version of her
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  Speaker 1: photo onto her feed and wrote, forget the little black dress.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the long black dress. And she poked
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  Speaker 1: fun at herself writing, take two. I noticed she tagged
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  Speaker 1: fashion brand P in the post and she previously listed
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  Speaker 1: this dress on her LTK account, which is an online
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  Speaker 1: platform where influencers get a commission if people use their
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  Speaker 1: link to purchase the item. I think that that's probably
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  Speaker 1: why she reposted it because if it was me, I
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  Speaker 1: would have cut my losses and just wiped this photo
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  Speaker 1: from existence online because it'd be really awkward to have
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  Speaker 1: people have the two photos to compare yeah that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the first thing I did I screenshot both of them
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  Speaker 1: to see what was going on look the sad reality
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  Speaker 1: is that the majority of influencers are using apps to
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  Speaker 1: photoshop their images but some are just doing it better
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  Speaker 1: than others well I would also say a lot of
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  Speaker 1: everyday people are also photoshopping their images not just influencers
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  Speaker 1: and celebrities because they're It's such a competition to keep
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  Speaker 1: up and put the best version of yourself forward. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the awkward thing is when someone does it and they're
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  Speaker 1: not an influencer and they clearly don't know how to
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  Speaker 1: use Photoshop. Like I've seen so many photos pop up
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  Speaker 1: of people who have like 50 followers and they've softened
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  Speaker 1: the shit out of their face. It's like they've learned
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  Speaker 1: how to do it. I feel like it's a boomer thing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and they just look like an alien.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think in this instance Tully decided to repost– the
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  Speaker 1: unedited version of her photo because she wanted to play
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  Speaker 1: off that this was a genuine mistake and that she
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  Speaker 1: had nothing to hide. However, it led to more people
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  Speaker 1: scrutinizing the photo and accusing her of editing other things.
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  Speaker 1: So you really can't win in this situation, can you?
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  Speaker 1: At least she acknowledged it. She could have just not
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  Speaker 1: even commented on Celeb Spellcheck's post. She could have pretended
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  Speaker 1: it didn't happen. I'm sure there's a lot of worried
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  Speaker 1: influencers though. Now that celeb spell check has come back
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  Speaker 1: with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: I hate drama and I was really hoping I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: have to make this video, but it's come to the
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  Speaker 2: point that I have to address it.
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  Speaker 1: Anger is mounting against fallen online retailer Booktopia, who recently
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  Speaker 1: fell into voluntary administration. Fitness influencer Sarah's Day, who used
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  Speaker 1: the online store as a distributor, says her cookbooks are
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  Speaker 1: now being held hostage as a lengthy administration process plays out. Sophie,
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  Speaker 1: this is an absolute nightmare for authors. Yeah, and authors
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  Speaker 1: are right in the middle of this gigantic mess at
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  Speaker 1: the moment. So when Booktopia went into voluntary administration at
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  Speaker 1: the start of July, it suspended all trading, leaving 150,000
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  Speaker 1: unfulfilled orders. That works out to around $ 12 million worth
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  Speaker 1: of books. Now, customers and authors have been left in
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  Speaker 1: limbo because the The administrators confirmed that orders will not
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  Speaker 1: be filled and refunds won't be granted until the administrative
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  Speaker 1: process plays out. So many of those orders are actually
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  Speaker 1: gift cards or pre-ordered books, which haven't even arrived at
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  Speaker 1: Booktopia's warehouse. And it looks like this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a rather lengthy process because administrators are looking to
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  Speaker 1: either restructure the business or sell it. because they are
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  Speaker 1: attempting to claw back $ 60 million of debt. This whole
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  Speaker 1: thing really surprises me, especially with the popularity of BookTok. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: Booktopia was doing really well in 2020 during the pandemic.
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  Speaker 1: They recorded their highest profits and they put those profits
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  Speaker 1: into expanding and modernizing their warehouse. But they are now
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  Speaker 1: blaming the increased cost of living and the greater competition,
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  Speaker 1: and also a volatile market brought on by this post-COVID
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  Speaker 1: downturn as the reason that they have done so poorly
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  Speaker 1: in the past year. And there is currently a lot
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  Speaker 1: of customer confusion over what's going on. And it's led
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  Speaker 1: a lot of customers to lash out at the authors online.
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  Speaker 1: And they've asked for an explanation and they've demanded refunds.
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  Speaker 1: So fitness influencer Sarah's Day is one of many authors
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  Speaker 1: who's found herself in the middle of the chaos. So
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  Speaker 1: she released her cookbook Sunny Side Up almost a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: And while the book is self-published, Sarah struck up a
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  Speaker 1: deal with Booktopia to distribute the book to Australian customers.
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  Speaker 1: So she said she felt confident using the online retailer
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  Speaker 1: as they said they were the biggest distributor of cookbooks
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  Speaker 1: in Australia and had the best setup. Now, as news broke,
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  Speaker 1: the Booktopia had collapsed and they were going into administration.
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  Speaker 1: She began to be inundated by followers asking why her
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  Speaker 1: cookbook was no longer available in Australia and why their
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  Speaker 1: orders hadn't come through. Here's what she said.
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  Speaker 2: If you've been trying to buy my healthy cookbook, Sunnyside Up,
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  Speaker 2: you may have been struggling with that. At the same
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  Speaker 2: time as you guys, I found out that Booktopia, who
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  Speaker 2: distribute my cookbook, went into administration. I am the author,
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  Speaker 2: creator of my cookbook, Sunnyside Up.
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  Speaker 1: And I did this all in-house. I self-published.
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  Speaker 2: Once I had created the books, I got them made.
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  Speaker 2: I got them printed all through my own money.
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  Speaker 1: This was like a self-project. Sarah pointed out that this
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  Speaker 1: situation wouldn't impact her international customers. as she has a
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  Speaker 1: warehouse in the US and UK, which is separate to Booktopia.
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  Speaker 1: She also apologised to customers, which is quite rare. She
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  Speaker 1: doesn't usually say the words, I'm sorry. And she said
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  Speaker 1: that in the meantime, she's trying to work her Sezzy
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  Speaker 1: magic dust on the situation, promising things will be sorted
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  Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. Well, you have to feel
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  Speaker 1: sorry for her because this really has nothing to do
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  Speaker 1: with Sarah's day. This is a Booktopia issue. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a bad one because all of these authors are suddenly
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  Speaker 1: being attacked by followers. And it's really one that's out
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  Speaker 1: of their hands. Well, I think there has been confusion
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  Speaker 1: because customers are thinking that the authors are keeping hold
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  Speaker 1: of their money. When in reality, a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: authors have complained that they have been sending invoices to Booktopia,
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  Speaker 1: which haven't been paid. Now, despite outlining in her video
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  Speaker 1: that her cookbooks are still available for Australian and New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand customers in a limited capacity, She then changed her
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  Speaker 1: tune in the comment section. So she pinned a comment
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  Speaker 1: which read AU slash NZ customers out of stock. More
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  Speaker 1: stock coming very, very soon. I will announce ASAP. AKA
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  Speaker 1: sunny side up is a hostage in this situation. If
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  Speaker 1: I don't laugh, dot, dot, dot. She also replied to
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  Speaker 1: a follower saying Booktopia went into administration. So my cookbooks
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  Speaker 1: are stuck in their warehouse until the administration team releases them.
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  Speaker 1: even though I own 100% of books. Gosh, I would
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  Speaker 1: have loved to have been a fly on the wall
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  Speaker 1: when Sarah's Day found that out and blasted her content
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  Speaker 1: at Booktopia. I would also be avoiding words like hostages though,
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  Speaker 1: particularly in the current climate that we're in. It just
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  Speaker 1: seems a tad inappropriate. It sounds like Sarah has been
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  Speaker 1: kept in the dark for quite some time by Booktopia.
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  Speaker 1: That being said though, people in the publishing world told
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  Speaker 1: journalists that it was industry knowledge for at least a
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  Speaker 1: year that Booktopia had been struggling. they also made 100
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  Speaker 1: staff redundant this year. So the writing has been on
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  Speaker 1: the wall. Yeah, and that's led a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: to question why were so many pre-orders still being taken
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  Speaker 1: by Booktopia when it was in such a dire situation? Now,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Sarah is adamant that She's getting new stock in a
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: few weeks time. It will be interesting to see who
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: she selects to distribute it or whether she decides that
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: she and her team will do that themselves. The administrators
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: are hopeful of finding a new buyer for Booktopia so
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: it can continue its operations. So far, 80 parties have
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: expressed their interest in buying Booktopia with Dimmicks and Kogan
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: at the top of their list. So I don't think
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: they will struggle to find a buyer. It is just
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: a matter of when and how much time that process takes.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: The whole gang is in Rome right now, but only
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: for breakfast. We're in Italy for literally only breakfast. Speculation
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: is rife that Anna Paul has a new boyfriend. A
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: so-called family friend has been popping up in the TikTokers
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: daily vlogs for months now, with followers convinced there's more
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to the story. So surely this guy is more than
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: a friend. He has to be. He has even landed
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: himself a spot on Anna Paul's Instagram feed. The guy
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: in question is Amarik Urbane, and he has been traveling
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the world with the Paul family for quite a number
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: of months now. So last week, Anna shared a video
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: of her and Amarik jumping off a cliff and into
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: bright blue water in Spain. She captioned the post, it
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: feels like summer. Now, many fans took this as a
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: soft launch. So one follower wrote, if this isn't a sign,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know what is. Now, despite all of this,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: Anna hasn't confirmed the relationship. And in June, she told
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: media publications she's single. So when Amrik first started appearing
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: in Anna's videos in August last year, it caused a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: massive stir because people were speculating that he was either
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Anna or Attis' boyfriend. I want to point out that
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Attis has only ever publicly dated women and there was
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this really uncomfortable speculation about his sexuality in August last year.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: So I think that that was also adding to the
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: speculation around who is this family friend. Yeah, and Anna
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: did address this speculation on a TikTok vlog. She said,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: apparently this is my new boyfriend, but apparently it's Attis'
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: secret boyfriend all along. Like, fuck's sake, listen. The shit
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: that I have read just because we posted somebody we
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: didn't fully introduce. I'm very sorry. Let me introduce him.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: His name is Amarik. He is a family friend. Addis
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: is not gay. I'm so sorry to disappoint. Our family
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: friend is not gay. I'm so sorry to disappoint. And yeah,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: that's all there is to it. Can you imagine if
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this guy is Anna's boyfriend and everyone was thinking that
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: he's Alice's? It would be so weird. The reason there
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: has been added interest in Americk popping up in August
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: last year is because that is the month that Anna
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: and Glenn broke up. So a lot of people were like,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: who the fuck is this new guy that's on the scene?
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I highly doubt that Glenn would have appeared in a
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: lot of Anna's subsequent videos and they would have such
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a good relationship if Anna had done the dirty with
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: this guy. Well, because Anna has remained pretty much silent
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: on this relationship, it has led to her very young
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: fans creating their own narrative. So one follower wrote, all
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: while Glenn's watching her cats like a slave and she's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: here with the reason they broke up. Whilst another said,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I think people care because we knew so much about
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: her relationship with Glenn and the timing here feels like
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: she hooked up with the new guy While she was
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: still with Glenn and shit happens, that's life. But why
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: lie about it? To protect the nice girl image, it's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: just odd. We've spoken about it before, but there is
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this phenomenon where fans start to create storylines about different
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: influences when that influencer shuts them out of parts of
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: their life. And this is clearly what has happened with
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: Anna Paul. Yeah, well, over the weekend, Amarik made another
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: appearance on her feed. And it was a video of
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: him talking to Anna's mum. And it was the first
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: time that followers had actually heard his voice before. And
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: even with that small snippet of information, they are now building, well,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: building the old narrative back up that they think that
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: he's gay. So her comment section was inundated with people
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: doing the nail polish emoji, which, and it was I
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: found it all really gross because she's come out previously
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: and said, look, America's not gay. It's very clear that
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: they're in a relationship, but she probably doesn't feel comfortable
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: yet to speak about it because she doesn't want all
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: these prying eyes and also the pressure of people's expectations
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: on them. It just reminds me of when One Direction
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: were incredibly popular and everyone was writing those fan fics
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: saying that Louis and Harry were in a relationship together.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: In this case, as you said, it seems pretty gross
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that Anna has literally come out and said both of
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: these men aren't gay. Like, can we just stop speculating
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: about it?
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: So today I'm going to do something fun with my hair.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Britt Hockley has unveiled a new hair transformation a year
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: out from her wedding. The Life Uncut podcaster told her
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: followers she went in for highlights, but the strawberry blonde
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: gods had other plans.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: We literally haven't even started yet and I've just done
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: a 180.
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: I know we're going natural and we're going to do bellyage.
• 21:49
  Speaker 5: We're going to do very like really lush, beautiful, cute,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: but I'm having a crisis.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I've changed my mind. I've flipped.
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: I've done a 180.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I've always.
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: Wanted to.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: And unless I have someone that's going to throw me
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: in the deep end, I'm never going to do it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Found it.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Found it.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a good idea to do
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: anything dramatic with your hair on a whim. I know
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: some hairdressers who, if you come in and say, oh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I want a fringe or I want layers, they will
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: actually say, no, you have to think about it. We
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: might do something slight today, but we're not doing anything dramatic.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: But the reality with Brit is she looks good with
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: blonde hair. She looks good with dark hair. She looks
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: good with strawberry blonde hair. She's got the face that
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: she can pull off any hair transformation. It felt a
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: bit pervy because she shared a screenshot of her revealing
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: her new hair to her fiance and he was saying, oh,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: it It's different, which you never want to hear. You
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: never want to hear that her hair is different. But
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: he did say she looked very model-esque. Yeah, to be fair,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: he wrote, you look hot, baby. And she wrote, yeah,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: you like it. And he wrote, yeah, it's different. But
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Boys need to be trained on how
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to react to a hairstyle. They either don't notice it
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: or they don't say the right thing. I think that
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: they're just black and white, though, because it did look different.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Yeah, it did. Well, Brit's
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: hair transformation was part of a campaign with hair dye
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: brand Godwell and and hairstylist Kirby Lago. And the campaign
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was entitled Blonde Your Way. But a few of Brit's
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: followers were quick to point out that Brit's new hair
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was more ginger than strawberry blonde. So her Kiss co-host,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Mitch Turi, even likened her new look to Fiona from Shrek.
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: Wow.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think that that's what the hairdresser was going for.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: That's a bit offensive. Well, the campaign was referenced as
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Blonde Your Way. So Brit argued it was blonde her way.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: She wanted strawberry blonde. Yeah. I feel like that's stretching
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: it a little bit. I'm surprised that she would make
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: such a dramatic hair transformation when we've heard that her
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: wedding will probably be in the next year, just because
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: when you add a lot of different colors and dyes
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: to your hair, it can damage your hair quite a lot. Yeah. Well,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that's why I think she didn't want to go full blonde.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Like I actually think this is the safest color for
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: her to get. I have no doubt that she will
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: dye her hair back to the original color before then,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: but it has really been a successful collaboration because At
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: the time of recording, the reel has had 470,000 views
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and Brit's hair transformation has been picked up by the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail, Who, New Idea and Yahoo. So I think
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: that brand will be celebrating.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Morning.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: Let's do a little day in my life. I'm feeling
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: really nostalgic because Shiny Grimmond has finally made a return
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to vlogging. And whilst it's not YouTube, like we were
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: all hoping for, she is sharing daily vlogs about her
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: life on TikTok.
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: And She's even invested in a new tripod and light
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: to make the content a bit more high quality. And
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: after consuming all of these vlogs, I think we are
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: seeing glimpses of the 2016 Shani because she's included a
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: scene of Jacob fake tanning her back. We've seen a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: dinner date with Michael Finch. She's been sharing about her
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: anxiety and we even got an update on how she
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: deals with constipation.
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: So I'm feeling a bit sick, a bit corked, if
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. So I'm going to have
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: some Quenda. This is what I have when I'm constipated.
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: Why am I telling you this? But seriously, if you
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: struggle with that, Quenda is the go-to. Makes you get
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: the wild berry flavour.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: And this is why everyone loves Sharni Grumman, because she
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: is such an oversharer and it feels like she's this
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: friend that is telling you about her bout of constipation. Yeah,
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: and her comment section was full of old fans who
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: were so excited to see that she'd made a return
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: One wrote, Sharni, I love you. I was obsessed with
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: your YouTube channel in 2016. Whilst another said, I've been
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: watching you since 2016 and just found your TikTok. So
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: happy to be reunited with you. And Sharni replied, welcome back, queen.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: She was also very overwhelmed by the support. Here's what
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: she said in one of her vlogs.
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: It's 6.30.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I literally just woke up and checked my comments and
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: I actually could.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I could actually cry at all the support on my
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: last video, so thank you. I'm so lucky to have
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: you all.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, let's get up.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: I do, in fact, drive. I saw a few people
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: referenced our deep dive series that we did on Sharni Grumman,
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: and if that has actually inspired Sharni to get back
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: on TikTok, I'm really pleased.
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as a whole, I don't think she should judge
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: someone for their body count unless it's absolutely outrageous.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: UK influencer Saffron Barker has taken a cheeky swipe at
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: her ex-boyfriend, Lewis Rhys-Sambit, who was recruited to the Chiefs
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: earlier this year. So during a recent episode of Saffron's podcast,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Sex Lies and DM Slies, which she co-hosts with fellow
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: influencer Anastasia Kingsnorth, the pair were answering a listener's dilemma
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: when the topic of body counts came up and whether
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: they mattered. Here's what Saffron said.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I was very much like, you don't judge someone by
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: their body count, but I think I should have fucking
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: judged someone by their body count, to be fair. But
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: this person I'm talking about, genuinely, no one could ever, ever,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: ever guess a number so high.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So.
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: It.
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: Is like, how have you actually had time?
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: No, no, genuinely, the number is out of this world.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: And I'm talking... It's funny because people are probably guessing
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: the number of this person that I know's body count.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: But you're wrong.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: And it's... You wouldn't even be close if you tried.
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're wrong.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: I've never, like, I.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Remember I knew this guy who had slept with, he'd
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: slept with 100 people by the time he was 18.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And I thought that was high. I thought that was
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: very high actually, but it's worse. So whatever you can imagine,
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: it's worse. But anyways, I didn't judge them for that.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: But now looking at like their actions, I'm thinking I
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: should have judged them for it. But I don't think
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: that's very common. I don't think that many people were, Yeah,
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: as a whole, I don't think you should judge someone
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: for their body count unless it's absolutely outrageous.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if it's outrageous and you're like taken aback by
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: the number, so fair enough. But like, yeah, I agree.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: I don't think you can judge anybody by their body
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: count because if someone judged me by mine, I would
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: be quite hurt by it because like, obviously I've only
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: had one relationship, but I've slept with more people than that.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: But that doesn't make me a slut. That doesn't make
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: me a slag. That just means I'm a woman who's
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: enjoyed having sex.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: I love how she's like this guy that I know
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: and everyone knows exactly who she's talking about. It's her
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: ex-boyfriend's body count. It doesn't surprise me that it's high,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: but it does sound like it is astronomically high for
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: someone of his age because he is only what, like 21, 22.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: You could tell that Saffron and Anastasia were trying to
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: be really sensitive because the initial question they got from
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: the listener was that she had been shamed by her
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: boyfriend and Anastasia was very much saying, you know, girls
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be called sluts and there shouldn't be double standards.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: But Saffron couldn't help it, could she, but mention the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: ex as number one. It was verging on coming across
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: as hypocritical because it's almost that reverse sexism. Love Island
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: recently aired a similar debate. So there's a contestant in
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: there called Kieran who's 21. He's paired up with Nicole
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: who's 23 and she's like this ultra obsessive– well, she's
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: being portrayed as being ultra obsessive and goes nuts whenever
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: he talks to another girl– And he revealed that he'd
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: slept with 120 women. And she went apeshit about it
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: because she's like, well, if you started having sex when
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: you were, say, 18, that means that you've really fit
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: in 120 people in three years. She was crunching the sums.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: He'd had a relationship before. And I think that that's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: what Saffron and Anastasia were trying to articulate. They were
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: trying to say that it's not perhaps the best sign
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: when you're looking to be in a relationship with someone. Yeah.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And Saffron's boyfriend went on to cheat on her. Yes.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So that's what she was trying to draw back to.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: My front garden is mud slosh kaput.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Sophie Keisha has had the day from hell. The pajama
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: mogul was forced to leave a paint and sip night
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: early with her Keisha employees to get home to her
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: son Bobby, who was profusely vomiting. When I got home,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: he'd vomited in the toilet and he'd vomited all on
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: my bedroom floor, which I didn't know.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: And I ran in the house and I slid in it,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: slipped in the vomit on the floor, mushed it even
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: more into my carpet. And I was giggling like, I'm
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: not going to be mad.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: My son's sick. This detail made me feel sick to
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: my core. So she said that she came back to
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: clean the vomit, but her three dogs had eaten it.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: That is disgusting. I feel like people are going to
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: be turning this podcast off in their masses from hearing that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: She was quite pleased. She said it was a bit
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of a pro for her because she then didn't have
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: to clean it up entirely. That actually makes me feel sick.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like we're going to have to put a
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: disclaimer at the start of the podcast to fast forward
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: this section. I think talking about vomit is slightly better
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: than talking about poo though. I disagree. Now, Sophie ended
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: up bundling Bobby into her car with a blanket and
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: took him to the doctors and he was diagnosed with
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: influenza A and put on nausea medication to stop the vomiting. Now,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: her daughter Flossie was distraught because she really wanted to
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: go to a weekly drama class and Sophie begrudgingly took
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: her because Bobby said it was fine. So after the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: doctor's appointment, Sophie and Bobby sat in the car for
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: 45 minutes outside the class. Things didn't go to plan, though.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Of course, about halfway through Flossie's drama session, like I said,
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: we were parked out the front.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Bobby's laying back.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: He's dead asleep.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I'm like, there's probably no difference to him being at home.
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: Sits up and he yells out, where's the ball?
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: And scared the shit out of me.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: And I was like, what?
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: What ball?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I thought he was dreaming. But he'd said, where's the bowl?
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: The sick bowl?
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: Because he went, you know, like the exorcist.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Scene on Scary Movie when it just goes, just sprayed
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: vomit all over my car, all over the queen size doona.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm still triggered from COVID, but To me, I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: don't understand why you would let your daughter go to
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: a drama class when she has been around a highly
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: infectious person with the flu. But it happens everywhere. The
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: schools are full of kids that like, they're like, oh,
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: my mom and dad has COVID and I'm at school.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I just, I just, have we forgotten what we learned?
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: It would have been germ central at this house, particularly
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: when there's dogs walking around eating vomit. Like in the clip,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Sophie Keisha had her dog sitting right on her, almost
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: kissing the dog's lips when he's just eaten the vomit.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: That is disgusting. I also wonder if her son Bobby
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: was happy with this information being shared about him to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: her followers. Well, particularly because in this same set of
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  Speaker 1: Instagram stories, she said, oh, he's just in the shower
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  Speaker 1: at the moment, but he doesn't allow me in there
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  Speaker 1: anymore because, you know, he's setting some boundaries. Well, he's 10. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he clearly probably doesn't want his vomiting incident talked about
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  Speaker 1: too much. hundreds of thousands of people online. Well, he's
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  Speaker 1: at an age where kids are aware of social media
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the mums would be aware of
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  Speaker 1: who Sophie Keisha is. Yeah, definitely. Now, her day also
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  Speaker 1: got off to a really bad start because she woke
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  Speaker 1: up to discover that tradies and plumbers were digging up
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  Speaker 1: her front nature strip. And this was because she had
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  Speaker 1: a water leak on her property. And for months, she
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  Speaker 1: had been complaining about paying really high water bills. So
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  Speaker 1: her water bills were thousands of dollars. And She thought
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  Speaker 1: it was because she had a new pool and she'd
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  Speaker 1: been running water into the pool over summer. However, it
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  Speaker 1: was because she had this huge leak out the front
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  Speaker 1: of her house.
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  Speaker 4: There was a leak, roadside and my side, flooding everywhere, everything,
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  Speaker 4: hence my water bill. So not only have I paid
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  Speaker 4: thousands of dollars for something that has not been my fault,
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  Speaker 4: was absolutely unaware of any leaks, my side, roadside, all
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  Speaker 4: of the above, everything.
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  Speaker 1: And my front garden is mud, slosh, kaput. A child's dream.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if she gets a refund for that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: the issue is the plumbers still haven't been able to
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  Speaker 1: stop this leak. So her front yard is also flooded
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  Speaker 1: at the moment. It sounds like an absolute nightmare. That
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  Speaker 1: is all we have time for. But before we go,
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, we are going to be recording a subs episode.
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  Speaker 1: about hens parties, because we've been inspired by Nikki Westcott's
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  Speaker 1: upcoming hens party, which she's having in Mykonos. It has
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  Speaker 1: appropriately been named Mykonos. So she is having a very
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  Speaker 1: lavish five-day event. It sounds insane. We will be going
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  Speaker 1: into those details on the podcast, but we want to
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  Speaker 1: know your hens party stories. What are the do's and don'ts?
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  Speaker 1: Have you had any funny incidents with brides who have
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  Speaker 1: been over the top, any dilemmas, we want to know.
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  Speaker 1: DM us. We'll put up a question box on our
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  Speaker 1: Instagram story as well. Yeah, because we want to answer
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  Speaker 1: some of your questions like who is in the wrong
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  Speaker 1: for this scenario? There's so many politics that come into
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: having a hen's party. So please DM us. If you
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