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Ep. 3706 Mark Kelly Has Public MELTDOWN as the Military TAKES CONTROL!!! · Turley Talks

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  [SPEAKER_01]: things are getting really, really bad for Senator Mark Kelly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he knows it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now for weeks, Kelly's been dismissing the Pentagon's review is just political theater.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's been laughing it off on podcast calling it Kubuki theater playing the tough guy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But in the last few days, the laughing stopped and the panic is starting to palpably set in.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The walls are indeed closing in on Senator Mark Kelly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: As many of you know, Kelly appeared in that video with the five other Democrats urging troops.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: to disobey what they called illegal orders from the Trump administration, a video that deliberately attempted to disrupt and destabilize the U.S. military chain of command, even though not a single one of the seditious six could cite a single command that was even remotely illegal.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But as part of the consequences for that idiotic and seditious stunt, Kelly is now facing a nightmare situation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The Pentagon has officially moved his case from a preliminary review to what's called a full command investigation.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So this isn't just the headline anymore.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is a very serious legal process that promises to explode into a full-blown political earthquake.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's the exact same mechanism that took down Lieutenant William Callie.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If you remember back in 71, he was the U.S.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Army officer convicted by court marshal for the premeditated murder of 22 unarmed South Vietnamese civilians during the My Lie massacre or Chelsea Manning.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You might remember that the former U.S. Army intelligence analyst who was convicted by court marshal back in 2013 for violating the espionage act after leaking hundreds of thousands classified military and diplomatic documents to WikiLeaks.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The process that Kelly is going through right now as we speak is the exact same process at all of these court martial situations went through and the moment that realization of what all of this really means the moment that settled in we watched a sitting U.S. senator going to a full blown public.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: meltdown.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Folks, you got to understand that our military's swears and oath to the Constitution, not to a person, not to the president.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A note that requires them to refuse illegal orders.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we, you know, we still know if they're actually going to try to follow through on this court martial of me, but we do know that they're moving forward with something.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This command investigation, as they call it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I want all of you to know that no matter what happens to me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I am not backing down because this really isn't about me.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is about all of us.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This is about every member of the military, every retired person, every U.S. citizen.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the go-to playbook for every single Democrat who gets caught in a legal activity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this isn't about me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about all of us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, sorry, Senator Kelly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is all about you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it's entirely about you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We didn't blatantly commit sedition, you did.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Don't hide behind us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This all belongs to you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, true to form, what you just heard there, was a blatant lie.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: All right, you just heard Mark Kelly claim that the Constitution requires a military personnel to refuse illegal orders, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You heard him say that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We take a note.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't take a note to a man.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We take a note to the Constitution and the Constitution requires us to refuse illegal orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You heard that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In fact,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: all the seditious six every one of them have been spreading that exact same lie.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The law does not, I repeat, does not at any point require that military personnel have a duty to disobey unlawful orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That is a blatant lie that the seditious six are routinely spreading.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The law does not, at any point, say that military personnel have a duty to disobey unlawful orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What the law does say is that they have a duty to disobey manifestly unlawful orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that one word makes all the difference.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Orders that are clearly objectively unanimously recognized by all.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: as illegal by everyone involved.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What is so blatantly seditious here is you've got an entire political party that's been claiming that deploying the National Guard is unlawful.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The blowing up Venezuela and Narco Terrace Boats is unlawful.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But obviously there's a difference of opinion on that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that there's a difference of opinion completely pulls the rug out from under the notion of manifestly unlawful.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: A manifestly unlawful order by definition is recognized as illegal by everyone.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: whereas in order that the Democrats simply don't like, by definition is not manifestly unlawful.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why Kelly and the seditious six are blatantly lying here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're leaving out the key qualifier for disobeying for a legal disobedience of unlawful orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's the manifest qualification.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It must be considered illegal by everyone, not just a bunch of rapidly woke leftists.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now,
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You can hear the panic in that video.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mark Kelly is not a civilian.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a retired Navy captain receiving a pension and under the uniform code of military justice, that means he belongs to them.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And a command investigation isn't just a casual chat.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's a formal, structured, fact-finding process ordered by military commander.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's governed by strict military law, not civilian opinion.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and its sole purpose is to gather evidence to determine if a service member committed misconduct.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And here's the kicker.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The investigation is the gateway.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It is the specific legal prerequisite that allows the military to move to administrative discipline, non-judicial punishment, or in the most serious cases in Article 32 hearing, which is the military equivalent of a
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is exactly what President Trump has been calling for days ago.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He took to true social and wrote quote, there are laws that impact our nation, retitoy teen chapter 115, section 2387, whoever with the intent to interfere, impair influence the loyalty, moral, or discipline of the military and naval forces is to be fined or imprisoned up to 10 years.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And then he sighed to Commander Kirk Lippold as giving that commentary, citing that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And he said Trump said this is right on point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Do what must be done.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Trump from day one of the stunt has been calling for a court martial.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Kelly knows this.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He served for decades.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that once this door opens, he loses control of the narrative.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The military justice isn't, don't care about your sentancy.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It don't care about, you know, you're, you're, you're a lot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't care about your rhetoric or anything like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It cares only about the uniform code of military justice.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And as a retiree drawing a pension, Kelly is still subject to that code.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So how's he handling it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Well.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: pretty badly waiting to you see his answer they gave the latest press conference uh... regarding his court martial this is going to absolutely make your day
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The last thing I heard from DOD regarding the person was in 2011, whatever, tire from the United States that was given the region of Paris for my service.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, yeah, this is all a bunch of bullshit.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why I think is because this is just about sending a message to retired service members.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: active duty service members government employees do not speak out against this president or there will be consequences Well, there you have it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's that's the related talking point.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This isn't about me, right?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about all of us.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We stand together.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: We stand against this print.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm sorry.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Center Kelly.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is about you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: This is all you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It's about you blatantly lying about the constitutional oath taken by our service men and women.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You blatantly lied about it in order to deliberately destabilize the chain of command in our military, which puts our entire nation at risk.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's all about you and your seditious act.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice try at deflection.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's all you.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Now, another deflection Kelly has been consistently throwing out there.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the legacy media has been amplifying it because, you know, the Democrats in the media are one.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: They're basically the same.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: One runs for office and the other one runs to cameras.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But there is this claim that Pete Higgseth himself often stated in the past that military members should refuse illegal orders.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So Kelly's basically running with this accusation that Higgseth is a hypocrite.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: it, Kelly's, and you know, in other words, Kelly's in doing anything that hegseth didn't himself do.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But again, true to form, Kelly is misleading us here.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: There's a massive legal distinction that Kelly is praying you don't notice.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: So in 2016, when Higgseth was a civilian commentator, discussing hypothetical war crimes, he did make some comments like that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Mark Kelly, by contrast, is a retired naval officer still taking a pension, a sitting U.S. senator, who used his rank to tell active duty troops to question their chain of command
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the definition of good order and discipline violations under the USMJ.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: You cannot throw the chain of command into question based on vibes, or based on your own political radicalism.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When you do that, as an officer, as Kelly blatantly did, you are playing with fire.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Bottom line, Kelly is trying to generate public sympathy because he knows he has no legal ground to stand on.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows his public comments misrepresented the Constitution.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows his public comments misrepresented the legal requirements and military members.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He knows that he's not an idiot.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I think...
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  [SPEAKER_01]: When all said and done, Mark Kelly is trying to position himself or was trying to position himself for 2028.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He looked at how Gavin Newsom's poll numbers went up immediately after he started confronting President Trump.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And so Kelly took a page from that playbook and tried to exploit his military service in precisely that capacity.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: and at Boomerang, he stepped in it.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: He literally stepped on a landmark and now he's facing the very well-deserved consequences.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: The seditious six-fity it wasn't just a political stunt.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It was a retired captain telling the military and the intelligence community to prepare to defy the commander and chief.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not just dangerous.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's not merely reckless.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: It is.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: In the eyes of both the president of the United States and the secretary of war, seditious.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And for the first time in a long time, the Pentagon is saying actions have consequences.
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