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349 - Embody Your Highest Self by Transforming Your Style w/Chellie Carlson 2/4 Emotional Generator · Unshakeable with Human Design - A Human Design For Business Podcast

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Nicole Laino: Welcome to Unshakeable with Human Design, the show dedicated
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to helping entrepreneurs use human design to shift from hustle to
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flow without sacrificing results.
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Come here to become an unshakeable human and build an unshakeable business
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according to your human design.
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I'm your host, Nicole Laino.
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Hello and welcome to Unshakeable with Human Design, everybody.
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I'm your host, Nicole Laino, and I am so thrilled to be here with
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my guest, Shelly Carlson today.
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Shelly is actually somebody I met, it's actually only been a little
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bit over a year, but It feels like longer that we've known each other.
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I spoke in a mastermind that you were a part of.
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And I'm just gonna, I'm gonna brag on you a little bit here because I've watched
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this Ascension that you've had, and I've watched this growth journey you've been
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on and you are, while you are a personal stylist, you are so much more than that
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and that's what I really feel has come through in this year plus that I've
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known you and I've been watching you.
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Now I'm also a member of your Style Society membership, which we're going to
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talk about in, in a little while because I'm gonna, I'm gonna rave about that too.
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Because honestly what you've done, I've always liked clothes, but I
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relied on brands and I, I'm not going to say that I always loved my body.
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I've never had a weight problem, but I, had big boobs from the time I was a kid
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and we're going to talk about body image.
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But what you've done in your membership, I've been in the membership pretty
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much the whole time I've known you.
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I joined pretty much right away.
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And So I've been in it for a year and you give these great style boards and
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you give such great advice, not just on like, Oh, here's what's trending now.
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Like you can get on a YouTube video, you get formulas for how to dress.
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Us how to dress our body and that has changed my whole relationship with my
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clothes the way that I shop Um, I use your suggestions, but i'm also able to
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be online My christmas list this year was so different because I was like, these
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are the pieces that I need These are the accessories that I feel like i'm missing
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from the look that I want to create For me, not because the magazine told me to.
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And I just wanted to, I just wanted to say that that's, we're going to talk
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about all of it today, but thank you because it's made me feel more empowered
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in my own body, in my own style, in the way that I represent myself.
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And that can't be understated how important that is.
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So thank you and welcome to the show.
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Chellie Carlson: Thank you.
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I'm so excited to be here
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Nicole Laino: And I also want to say that you are a 2 4 emotional generator
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and you are the incarnation cross of the vessel of love, which at the
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end of the episode, I'm going to get to what that all means, because when
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I see people really living true to their design gets me super excited.
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And I want to highlight some of that.
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So if you're listening to this and you are a vessel of love, you're a
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generator, you're a 2 4, we're going to go into all of that and how Shelly is
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really using this in her brand without necessarily knowing what , what you're
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doing, it's just coming through you.
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Why?
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Because you've done obviously inner work, you have reflected on
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yourself and you're stepping into your highest version of yourself.
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And that happens to be very aligned with your chart.
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So I'm gonna, I'm gonna call out some of that stuff at the end, but before
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we get there, let's introduce yourself.
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Tell everybody, what did I not include?
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What would you like everybody to know about you?
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Chellie Carlson: I, well, I'm thank you for that beautiful intro.
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It's received.
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It's an honor to have this membership and to hear reflected
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back to me is really special.
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So a little bit about me.
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So I live in Los Angeles, but I grew up.
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It's lots of duality here.
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I grew up on a farm in Missouri got a fashion degree
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from Central Missouri State.
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So, again, it doesn't matter where you go to school or what degree you get.
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So I got that degree and then I lived in Chicago 21 years.
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And then I've been in LA about a year and a half now,
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Nicole Laino: and are you loving LA?
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Chellie Carlson: I'm loving it.
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I'm never leaving this weather.
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I get to work outside every day.
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I have open, you know, I, it's.
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It's home, but I love to travel back to Chicago because I miss it a lot.
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I mean, I don't really miss the weather, but I miss the
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people and clients and friends.
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But yeah, that's my journey.
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And I worked a little, my background, I worked for a lingerie brand for 20 years.
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This You know, connecting the dots backwards, this work prepared me to
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ultimately understand women's bodies and minds and ultimately help them,
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you know, unlock, their inner beauty and know that their bodies are perfect
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as they are, no matter their size.
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So I would see women that had full large busts.
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Who wanted smaller to look smaller.
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And then all of my small busted women wanted to look larger.
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So there was so much confusion around, you know, basically no matter what
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size you were, you didn't feel like you were enough or it was right for you.
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Right.
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And so I would notice this and putting them in the right bra that made them feel
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really confident and comfortable in their body and made their clothes look really
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well, um, you know, these women would.
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Cry in the fitting rooms with me and they would hug me and say, Shelly,
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what you just did for my bras.
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I need you to do for my whole wardrobe.
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So that's when I started side hustling.
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I built a website in 2019 and then I started handing out business
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cards and building my business.
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From the ground up.
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Nicole Laino: And you did that, you're, you're not 22 years old, so I think
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Chellie Carlson: I did.
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Nicole Laino: And I, I mean,
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I found
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Chellie Carlson: it at 40.
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So this is another part of my story that ladies, I found it at 40 in 2020.
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So I found it 2 weeks before COVID hit.
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We had mutual termination with my company.
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I still love the brand and work with it.
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And I said, you know, I'm ready to go on my own.
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I'd been playing small long enough.
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I was so uncomfortable playing small.
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I'm like, I'm going to launch my brand, my business.
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Let's go.
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And then boom, COVID hit.
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So it was actually, and I was on, honestly, I was on unemployment
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for about a year and a half.
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Which was, you know, thank God I got that unemployment because, you
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know, I couldn't, you know, the stores were closed, things were
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happening that were out of my control.
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So I focused inward and I, I knew that this would pass and that
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looking back again, connecting the dots, it was a huge gift for my
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industry and then having women not.
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Leaving the house or wearing sweats for a couple of years, and then
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they're realizing, wait, I deserve more for my wardrobe, right?
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And we had the whole awakening and I deserve more from
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everything in my life, right?
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After being locked up for a year and a half.
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And so I hired a coach that created my three step methodology
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that I still use today.
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I launched that in 2021 and then right at that point it took off from there.
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Every year it just kept growing and growing as I kept growing and growing.
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Nicole Laino: And there's, there's a few things in there.
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I want to go into, I want to ask you first about the lingerie company.
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You brought up big busted women wanted to be smaller, smaller busted
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women, women wanted to be bigger.
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Um, , that was a huge, I mentioned this in the intro, but that
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was a huge conditioning point.
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I'm going to call it small T trauma that I grew up being called.
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My nickname was top heavy.
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Chellie Carlson: Wow.
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Nicole Laino: I was, and it was so, it was not a, it was not a compliment.
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Um, I always felt like I looked fat because everything, I did
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not have things that fit me.
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I did not have a bra that fit me.
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That was the
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Chellie Carlson: supportive.
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Mm hmm.
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Nicole Laino: That was like mind blowing to me.
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The first time I went for a bra fitting at a bra place, where a woman walked in
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to the dressing room with me, and was like, here, I want you to put these on.
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And they were different sizes than I had ever worn, and I wasn't spilling
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over the sides, I wasn't like up to my chin with my cleavage, they just fit.
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And I cried.
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I cried.
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Chellie Carlson: This, It feel there's so much shame society puts, as women
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were supposed to look sexy and show off our breasts, but then there's so much
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judgment and shame if you actually do it.
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And then I understand what you've I mean, so many women would come in the
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fitting rooms with me and they would cry.
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They would feel just like you the trauma from that.
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There's so much that was.
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held around the bras and it's so sad and then they would instantly become
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safe with me and I would say, you know, I'm going to get you in the right bra.
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It's going to change your posture, your energy, your confidence, and
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they would walk out of there looking 10 years younger and 10 pounds
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slimmer and feeling different.
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And then I've now get to do this with the whole wardrobe and it's life changing.
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Nicole Laino: Well, it's, It's one of those things to where, you
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know, you go from feeling like if I, you know, sometimes I think back
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to 10 years ago and I bought fancy clothes when I worked on Wall Street.
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I guess we're going back even further than that.
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I've been out of there a little bit longer.
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When I worked in corporate, it was very much suits and stuff like that.
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So, And I felt comfortable in a suit because I felt like I looked professional.
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I felt like I fit the role that I was playing there.
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It wasn't me.
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It was.
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Corporate Nicole looked like that and then when I left corporate, I had a
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closet full of Corporate Nicole clothes and I no longer was that person and
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then I had sort of like a style identity crisis for a moment where it was like, I
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don't really know how to, how to dress.
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Yeah, where do I, where do I start?
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And, and that's where your membership really changed everything for me.
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Before that, I had some pieces that I liked, but overall, just back to that
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bra thing about that trauma, cause it doesn't have to be your boobs.
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It could be another part of your body.
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My sister, it's her butt.
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She's just like my butt.
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Everything is just, her mind goes directly to it, which causes
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so many people to stay stuck.
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in a box.
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Chellie Carlson: Yes.
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Nicole Laino: the same thing that maybe doesn't work And
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Chellie Carlson: just hiding, potentially hiding it a lot of women,
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it's arms or legs and my job, you know, it's about how to balance.
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And once you have a beautiful look, that feels great on you,
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nobody's looking at your arms.
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Nobody's looking or focused on your, but if you feel really powerful and
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great in your body, they're looking at how your energy, they feel you
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and they, they treat you differently.
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And so it's wearing things that balance you and make you feel really good.
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Um, But so many and giving permission, you know, a lot of
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women I meet just won't wear shorts.
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And my last client, she said in her home, she's like, I won't wear shorts.
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Shelly, she lives in Scottsdale.
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And so I looked at her and I said, okay, Claudia.
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And I understood the fourth, look, I put her in the studio or shorts and
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she instantly had this, like my whole team when, when I said it's time for
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shorts, she literally physically had a reaction and was physically not well.
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We put her in these shorts.
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She she's now obsessed with the shorts.
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She took a selfie, sent it to her husband and she's like, I look great in shorts.
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And like, yes, you do.
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You don't.
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She hadn't worn them since childhood.
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They're like, you have beautiful legs.
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Why are you hiding them?
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And it was her.
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She'd been conditioned to believe her legs weren't good enough from childhood.
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So it's, it's setting us free from all of these limiting beliefs that
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Nicole Laino: when I think about body image and when I think about, this is
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a show that's dedicated to becoming the most authentic version of yourself,
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the, the, the highest, most authentic version of yourself through human design.
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And I wanted to have you on here because style is an expression
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of your authentic self.
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And when we are hiding, when we are in our trauma and not in our power
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with the way that we feel in our clothes, then you are not in your
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power, you are not being authentic, you are in the process of hiding.
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And so many people, so many entrepreneurs, we have to be out in front.
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We
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Chellie Carlson: have to be visible.
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Yep.
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Nicole Laino: visible when you're selling it's your energy, when you
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are marketing, it's your energy.
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And if you don't feel comfortable in your own skin, people, people, pick up on that.
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Chellie Carlson: sense it.
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Yep.
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Nicole Laino: And they might sense that something's off with you, but they're
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not thinking, I bet she just has, you know, she thinks she has a big butt
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and she's not comfortable in her pants.
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They're thinking like, I don't know, there's just something
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off about this person.
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I'm just not feeling the power I need to feel from somebody I need
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to trust before I invest with them.
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Chellie Carlson: It's so, so powerful.
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Oh,
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Nicole Laino: And so it's really about, it's more than clothes.
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It's not clothes
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Chellie Carlson: way more, way more than clothes.
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I wish.
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And again, I'm not the one who makes the rules with clothes.
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I wish, we weren't judged for anything we're wearing, but it's
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less about what you're wearing.
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And it's more about how it makes you feel.
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That's the power of it.
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And it's finding the things that make you feel your best and then wearing
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them over and over and over again.
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Nicole Laino: And loving your body through this process of,
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like, your client loves her legs
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again, and I'm sure she's enjoying her life more in Scottsdale with
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shorts on.
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I live in Austin, this, I live in Austin.
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Um, I had to come to terms with
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shorts and skirts.
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I never thought I was a girly girl, so I never wore skirts.
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And now I found dresses and skirts and things because you know what?
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Its hot, And I love them.
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When I found ones that fit my personality, fit, cause some of them don't
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Chellie Carlson: feels like me
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Lifestyle?
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Yep.
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Nicole Laino: they're in, but I'm like, this just doesn't feel like me.
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So bye, I don't need to fit somebody else's trend
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Chellie Carlson: Trend?
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No.
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Nicole Laino: And so I want to talk about signature style, because I
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know, and, and your method, because you have a three step method.
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And your method, it's not just about buying all of these other pieces.
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And I wanted to ask you, you said somebody helped you put together that framework.
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Does it help you in being able to explain what you do and how you help people to
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have a clear framework for how you do it?
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It's not just Oh, I shop for you,
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Chellie Carlson: Right.
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There's
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Nicole Laino: might be like, okay.
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Chellie Carlson: yeah, there is.
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It is changed the game for me of having, you know, people like the,
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you know, the container is very clear.
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These are the steps.
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This is all I do.
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You can't reach out and hire me for a one off or a photo shoot.
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This is my magic.
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And I do these all these 3 steps.
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And so it really, I think, is powerful.
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It gives people like, okay, this is they want methodology when hiring people.
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Like, , It's it shows that in the process works, the transformation
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happens only after these 3 steps.
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And it's proven.
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Nicole Laino: Well, you're telling them how you get results and for all the
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entrepreneurs listening, if you don't have a framework and you can't clearly
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explain to people how you get them from point A to point B, then that's
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probably why you are Not able to sell as regularly as you would like to.
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So tell everybody, first of all, what's a signature style
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and why does it matter?
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Chellie Carlson: Yeah.
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So a signature style is ultimately, the way you show up consistently
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creates your signature style.
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So it could be, you know, for everybody, it's different.
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Um, I can use myself, for example, so a signature style for me is my jewelry,
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which I'm actually not wearing because I have a bow, but I wear the same necklace
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Nicole Laino: everyday.
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Your stack.
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Chellie Carlson: my stack and it is my signature part of
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my signature style because I.
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Literally, no matter what I'm wearing, except the bow, I wear this signature
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stack and it shows that I'm consistent.
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People are watching me and it ultimately, when you show up consistently,
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you're building trust with your audience and it is so powerful.
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Another signature style aspect of my style is leopard.
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So I leopard is my neutral.
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I love leopard.
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I've loved it since I was a child.
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Having it be in style right now, I'm, I'm stocking up on all the leopard.
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Yeah, I'm really happy.
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So leopard, anything for me, a Papa leopard accessories,
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shoes, whatever it may be.
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So when people see that, they recognize me.
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They're like, that's Shelly.
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That's her vibe.
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Another thing for me is oftentimes there were sneakers or.
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Actually, another one is like boots and shorts is another look I love.
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So people recognize me for that.
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Um, , so it's finding whatever it may be for you, whether it's a certain shoe you
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want to wear over and over again, you know, it's finding what you love that
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people, people comment on it, or they're constantly complimenting you try just
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wearing that piece over and over again, and then style it in different ways.
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You're going to then start creating and honing in on your signature style.
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Nicole Laino: Yeah, for me, I'm definitely, well, , I'm
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wearing a blazer right
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now.
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I'm, I love a blazer.
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I am, I have, no one, no money will ever be wasted on me
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buying a blazer
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a
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Chellie Carlson: blazer
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Nicole Laino: It will get worn, it will get worn again, and again, and again.
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And I feel like me when I throw it on, they are my jackets here pretty
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much all year long in Austin whenever it gets, you know, when it's not
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summer, I have a blazer on cause I don't need a winter coat here.
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They are like the jacket.
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So, um, moto jacket.
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I like a third piece over, over my stuff and I love the graphic tee.
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I'm a rock and roll girl.
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I live in Austin.
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My
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husband's a
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Chellie Carlson: new vision
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with you.
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Nicole Laino: I was absolutely like.
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You know, I had a Penny Lane phase where I was like backstage at rock concerts
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all the time, and that's who I am.
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So when I put that on, I don't, there's not a part of me anymore that
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says oh, I'm not dressed up enough.
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I don't look professional.
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It's like, no, this is, This is, who I am.
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Chellie Carlson: yeah,
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Nicole Laino: my, This is my
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Chellie Carlson: thing
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This is my vibe.
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Um, I have some opinion on that.
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So then when you put this outfit on, you love it.
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The beauty is Nicole, you could wear it all day.
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You could then go to dinner.
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You could go to any, you know, , so many people are getting dressed
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for the occasion or for who they're going to be around or the location.
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My wish for all of us is to dress for ourselves.
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So when you wear that outfit, that blazer and graphic tee, you could literally go
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from your podcast out to a rock concert and you are appropriate no matter
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what, because you love your outfit.
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Nicole Laino: I get stopped all the time and people compliment me on my outfits
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and they're just my everyday thing.
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But I messaged you actually because I was at an event and I
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had to go to the airport directly.
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I had to leave early and get, go to the airport.
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So I wore my graphic tee.
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I wore, um, I wore my flate, my frame.
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Palazzo pants, which is like pajamas.
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They're so comfortable.
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My sneakers, like my, like Puma sneakers.
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And then I had, my oversized blazer on over knee over it.
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I had my, necklace, this one that I'm wearing right now.
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And.
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So everybody's in like these dresses and they're super dressed up at this event.
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And I walk in and I'm just like, and I didn't think twice about it.
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I was like, I feel good.
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I feel lovely.
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I'm totally cool here being in this.
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And I got stopped by no less than five people telling me
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how much they loved my outfit.
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I gave them all your Instagram, of course.
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And it's because I walked in owning it.
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I wasn't just like, Oh, I hope it's okay that I'm wearing this or I feel out of
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Chellie Carlson: so that's the power of a signature style and
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ultimately you're going to save money.
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Nicole Laino: Mm
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Chellie Carlson: Stop buying and over consuming.
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that is key.
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Just stop shopping where the few pieces that you love and
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wear them in different ways.
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And then that's your signature.
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Look, save you time and money.
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Nicole Laino: So there, there's two things I want to mention one other thing
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that I, most people who listen to the show know that I'm an, I was an actor
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when I was younger and I had this acting teacher, uh, well, I didn't have her,
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she was dead, but I went to her studio in New York and it was Uta Hagen and we had
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a whole, it was a conservatory program.
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So you were in it for a long time.
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You went through all of these different units and one of them was on costuming.
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And you spent a month where all you did was try on costumes, so you would do the
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same scene in four different costumes.
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And it was all to show you how the clothes changed the way you acted, who you were
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being when you walked in that room.
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So it was this, it was such a lesson for me, because she was like, do it
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in her book, she has a book, and you basically went through every chapter
21:49
in the book and they were lessons that we did for like weeks in class.
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We did this for a month, where we just did things in different clothes.
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And, you know, we'd come in, in sweatpants and we'd do it.
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And then we'd come in, in a ball gown and we'd do it.
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And you brought in all these different things and different props and stuff
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that you would, if you put on beautiful jewelry, how did that make you feel?
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How
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Chellie Carlson: to change
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Nicole Laino: It changed everything.
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So.
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I know that's just a thing that has stuck in my mind when I see you and
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you're talking about Signature Style.
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I'm like, this changes your energy.
22:23
It changes who you're being when you are around other people.
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And that's what people feel.
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No matter what you're saying, that's what they're getting from
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Chellie Carlson: you.
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Right.
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And another, another ping, it's, it ultimately, it's about self worth.
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Like, every time you get dressed.
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You're, you're saying like, this is what I'm worth.
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This is my value.
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I'm not the one who made these rules.
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It's just the way it is.
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And so every time, you know, I challenged my clients, like you're getting
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dressed, make sure this feels like this shows people like where telling
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them where I'm going, who I'm becoming.
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Nicole Laino: hmm.
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Chellie Carlson: And it's so powerful.
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And I think self worth is one of the biggest struggles.
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All my clients struggle with is, am I worthy of investing in these clothes?
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Do I deserve to feel this good?
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Nicole Laino: Well, it's
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Chellie Carlson: big
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Nicole Laino: The one question that I ask people, like I'm always asking
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myself, can this person see their value?
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So people come into my programs and through human design, I try
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to help you see what your innate value is and your method and your,
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your, um, your mode is clothing.
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It's through dressing yourself.
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It's through balancing your body because there are different ways.
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And what are some common mistakes that people are making that you
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see with the things that they maybe have always been wearing?
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Is there something
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Chellie Carlson: Always been wearing
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Nicole Laino: they should not have, they should stop doing right now?
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Chellie Carlson: the number one thing is hiding in your clothes.
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So when you have that body part, I had it.
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It was sort of my stomach area for many, most of my life.
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I would just hide loose kind of flowy and they were in style back
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then like these moves hiding that body part only does one thing.
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It draws more attention to it.
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So, ultimately, I see women just, oh, like, large fabrics, hiding, trying to
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just blend in with everybody else, so they don't get judged, rather than actually
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finding garments that fit their body, getting them tailored to fit their body.
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And ultimately, every look we need, we put on, it needs to come in at the waist.
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I don't care if you're a size 20, which I work with size 20s.
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I made my size 20 look like a size 10 because we balanced her so well.
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And no matter if you're a size zero, you still need to bring it in at the waist.
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It's the most universally flattering silhouette.
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Is the hourglass.
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So I don't care if you're an apple, a pear, whatever shape you are, we're
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trying to achieve the hourglass.
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And it's so simple.
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You bring it in at the waist.
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Even if we have, I know all a lot of women, we, we have that stomach trauma.
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So there's a little pooch there again, when you stand up tall and your outfit.
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Looks balanced.
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Nobody's looking at that.
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They're looking at how, strong and radiant you look in your whole outfit.
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So I say the number one thing is just snatch in that waist,
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matter what size you are.
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Don't be afraid to do it.
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You're going to look longer and leaner.
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Nicole Laino: And by doing that, it's, to me, one of the things I
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had a no crop top thing where it was just like, I can't wear cropped.
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So any, I'm always, I'm always, I'm always telling my people, , beware of
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anything that says I can't, I shouldn't.
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Um, because those, you should examine every single, , Inner sentence that you're
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saying to yourself saying I can't do that.
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I can't wear that.
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I can't be that Because I'll call bullshit pretty much on any of that.
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I choose to not wear that doesn't feel like me but that's a different that's
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a very different statement and I had a I can't wear crop tops and Then high
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waisted pants came in And then everything else that was longer than my waist just
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made me look out of shape and not right.
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So I had to, I had to fall in.
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Now they're all crap.
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Now I cut all of my t shirts.
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Like you teach us how to.
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Chellie Carlson: And it's just about the front tuck.
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If you get a little front tuck or full tuck, you look, you just look
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more and you're, and it's, you don't have to sacrifice comfort ladies.
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You just do a little front tuck, make sure your pants fit right and
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you just, it's all about tailoring
26:56
Nicole Laino: So take everybody through those three steps.
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because it isn't just about shopping.
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So your method is, is, is made up of
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Chellie Carlson: start with your closet.
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Yeah.
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We start with your edit and this is a day with you really diving deep into.
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We're going to go to childhood.
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You learned how to get dressed from your mother.
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We're going to talk about.
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What she taught you about self worth where you can shop what you can and
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can't wear ex partners a lot of them Imprinted on you what's appropriate?
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You don't look goodness.
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You should wear this do this and then of course society the big one
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You know, your boobs are too big.
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You can't wear this.
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Your legs are not good enough.
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Don't wear this.
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So there's all of these.
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I'm able to in that closet when we're having we're trying on and
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editing through your wardrobe.
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All of those limiting beliefs are going to come up and I'm
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examining and noting each 1.
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So that when I shop for you, my job is to overcome those limiting
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beliefs and set you free just like I did with Claudia in the shorts.
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Claudia is never going to feel the same in her body again after working with me.
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She is like free.
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She's open and.
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She's magnetic.
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So this closet is closet therapy.
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So I'm all of your masks are coming off.
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You're sharing everything with me and we're editing.
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We're going to see all of the potential potential for choices.
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You may have made in the past.
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So whether it's.
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Buying low quality garments or it's buying the same category
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over and over and over again.
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Some women have 80 pairs of denim.
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You need maybe 4 pairs of denim.
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That's it.
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But we keep just thinking.
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Oh, I have the.
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I need more clothes.
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I just need to keep shopping and buying and buying.
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And so it's really about letting go of anything that's dated.
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So anything that's like the long blouses, skinny jeans, anything that's old.
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Just get it out of the closet.
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It's taking up space and your closet space energetically represents.
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What's going on in your life?
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It is a snapshot.
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So when you get clear and clean with your closet, lots of other things
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in your life are going to shift and you're going to get clean and clear.
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So it's, it's, um, it's a powerful session
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And just to kind of,
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Nicole Laino: uh, you know, highlight that one piece there
29:35
where it's, you know, that your,
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your clothes and what's in your closet is, it's an, it's a physical representation
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of what you're holding onto and the things that you are still attached to, whether
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they believe so, if you have a shirt in your closet, a blouse in your closet, that
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reminds you of the time when you felt, heavy or it was about a bad breakup or
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maybe your ex wouldn't let you wear the top because you were showing Too much.
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whatever that is you're hanging on to that every time you touch it that brings back.
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Yeah, it's a memory it's a it's it's a trauma it's a Small t trauma, as I, as I
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Chellie Carlson: reffered to them
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Is.
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It is.
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Yes.
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Nicole Laino: why you want your trauma in your closet.
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Like we don't want that there because that's an intimate
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space that we go into every day.
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And since working with you through the membership, I have learned
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to love my closet so much more that when I walk in there, it's
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like, Oh, I have so many options
30:33
Chellie Carlson: there's so much abundance, but you have fewer pieces
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Nicole Laino: I have fewer pieces I can actually move
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the hangers in my closet now.
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Chellie Carlson: should, You should be able to know where every garment is.
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Like If I think of a piece of my closet, I have a very small closet.
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I know exactly where that piece is hanging.
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Like I just know, because I, I don't have that much
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Nicole Laino: Well, and I also know when something's missing from my wardrobe.
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By not having so much, I could go, You know what I'm always
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reaching for and I don't have?
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It's this.
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I wish I had one more.
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Long skirt to wear with those amazing boots that I have because I want to
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wear those boots more and show them off.
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So what else do I need to kind of like, make me feel like I have,
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yeah, like where I have, you , Oh, this would be perfect with these
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three tops, like one other thing.
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Then it tells me what I need to invest in.
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rather than just be buying new things all the time.
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Chellie Carlson: another small T trauma that I find women are holding on to our
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clothes that they used to be able to wear.
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So we, we all struggle with this.
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So you have you're holding on to that.
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Beautiful trouser.
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That's two sizes smaller than you are right now.
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That skirt, those jeans, ladies, you can keep these pieces, but we do not
31:54
keep them in our main closet zone.
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We are going to archive them.
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So this is your permission slip to take those pieces.
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Remove them from your closet, fold them up nicely and store
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them in another closet space.
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You do not need to be shopping them, reminding yourself that you
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no longer wear that size every day, reminding yourself that, you know,
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I'm gonna, it's just remove it.
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And if you do change sizes, you can revisit those and
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bring them back in when you do.
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Nicole Laino: yeah, so they're not part of your day to
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Chellie Carlson: day.
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Your not part of your day to day interaction and it's
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taking up that space again.
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We only, and back to like a seasonal closet too with my clients, we only have
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the current season front and center.
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So right now it's winter.
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There's no reason to have your white linen or flowy dresses like front and center.
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We need to move that to, the other side of the closet or hide it so that we can
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only focus on what we're wearing right now, which is fall, which is winter.
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Nicole Laino: It also feels like those clothes are new again
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when the next season comes,
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Chellie Carlson: When you re
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Nicole Laino: around.
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You do it with
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kids, right?
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You Take their toys away a little bit, you put them in a, and then you
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Chellie Carlson: And then
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Nicole Laino: again and they're like, oh wow, like I forgot I had this.
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Chellie Carlson: because there's, there's just, you'll edit again.
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So first thing you do next, you know, in the spring, summer, when we're pulling
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out those pieces, we're going to edit again and decide, okay, does this feel
33:28
like me or it's time to let it go?
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So seasonal editing is huge.
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Nicole Laino: Okay so we've edited, now what,
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now to what do do?
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So now, Now that i've seen what holds the clients has
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Chellie Carlson: and I see their current wardrobe, my job is to fill in the gap.
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Typically, my clients are getting with the full transformation.
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They're getting a whole new small capsule.
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Okay.
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A lot of their clothes.
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Don't work for them.
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So we purged the majority.
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So what that means is I get to source this new wardrobe from any retailer, you
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know, the highest value in every category.
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Um, We ship it to the style studio and the client gets to show up for
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one of the best days of her life.
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This is her shop day
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where she, her pretty woman day, she walks in the entire space is
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Exactly what she's always dreamed of.
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This is we're styling her three to five years out.
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This is her next level self.
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She gets to look in the mirror.
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Majority of my clients look in the mirror.
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There's tears like, who is she?
34:37
She's so beautiful.
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And.
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You're trying things you never thought you could wear busting all those limiting
34:47
beliefs during the session setting you free so that you could every day getting
34:54
dressed is the best part of your day.
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Nicole Laino: It's really fun when you love your stuff.
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Chellie Carlson: When you love and there's no reason why you shouldn't and
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you're, you know, no matter your size.
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I again worked with size 1820s this season.
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They cannot go to a store and buy clothes and so working with
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me, I handpicked and sourced.
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Everything that they literally the 1st, 1 of the clients, the 1st look she put on.
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She's like, if this is all I get, I'm happy.
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I can't believe everything fits me, you know, and it's like,
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we all no matter our size.
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We.
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We've been conditioned that it's not good enough.
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And so we, our bodies were just in constant battle with them.
35:39
And I know because I've done it my whole life.
35:42
And so I'm here to help, you know, now that I'm in my mid forties, it's getting
35:47
better, but I'm really here to just help women know that our bodies are perfect.
35:53
The clothes are typically the problem.
35:56
So let's get clothes on you that feel really good.
35:59
And you're going to feel lighter and majority of my clients after working
36:02
with me, just start losing weight because they now understand how to
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dress their body and they feel better.
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So they make better choices throughout the day.
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Nicole Laino: Have you ever met a woman that you've worked with that
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didn't have some sort of body, issue
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Chellie Carlson: no,
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Nicole Laino: ever?
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Chellie Carlson: not one.
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Nicole Laino: I can't think of a person, a woman I've ever met, that didn't have
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Chellie Carlson: something
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zeros.
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Yeah.
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So my, my zeros have it just as much as my 18 to 20s, maybe even more.
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My zeros have it more just that harsher, more critical view.
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Of perfection
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Nicole Laino: Mm hmm.
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And
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Chellie Carlson: and it's holding us back.
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Nicole Laino: It's, that's not your most magnetic self.
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When you're in your shadows of anything, whether you're shaming yourself or you're
36:57
trying to attain unattainable perfection.
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It's not the vibe.
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Um, , so, what's the
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Chellie Carlson: 3rd step
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Oh, next.
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Oh, then the next step is yours.
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So at the end of that, the top seamstress from LA comes in and tailors
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everything because fit is everything.
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So I make sure I've been sewing since I was 15.
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So I make sure fit every garment is perfect or retailer.
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That's my favorite part.
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Then we freight all of these clothes to the home of the client.
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And then the last session is.
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Basically their style session, so they've worn some pieces for a few weeks.
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I want to know what do you have questions on?
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What are we struggling with?
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How can I, you know, what do we need to work on here?
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And then I deliver a digital lookbook.
37:45
So this is their current wardrobe styled with their new pieces.
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So they have, you know, , Cher's closet at their fingertips,
37:54
all their looks on their phone.
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Nicole Laino: That's amazing
37:58
Chellie Carlson: So they can get ready in five minutes.
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Nicole Laino: I have some core visualizations that I do moments that
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I have for myself of what I'm calling in for myself for like the next year, I
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will share this with you publicly, that, um, one visualization, because I like
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moments, I like like actual moments, not just like, oh, I'm manifesting this money.
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It's like, what's a moment with something that represents me having it.
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And for me, it's you and your team.
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I'm welcoming you into my home.
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And my dogs are jumping on you and it's a whole moment and I cry
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when I do it because I'm like, because, you're so real to me.
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So it, it, it adds to that visualization, but I have this
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moment where I feel like I'm there.
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And because I think most women, I think all people want this, but I think
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women, especially because I think we tend to feel like we haven't been seen.
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Um, , we're dying for somebody to see us for who we are.
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And what a gift that you do that for people.
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Now, if it's okay with you, can I talk about your human design just a little
39:09
bit
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Chellie Carlson: course, I would love
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Nicole Laino: So,
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Chellie Carlson: to dive into that a
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Nicole Laino: so human design obviously tells us, so you're
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an emotional generator.
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So you have emotions and, and, you.
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know, Usually emotional people, like it's wisdom over time.
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Like as things sit with us and we marinate on them, like we
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just sort of deepen with things.
39:29
Generator, you know, you've done different things in your life, but
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there is a pretty strong through line.
39:34
I went to fashion school, I got my degree.
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I worked for a lingerie company, which is not what you do now, but
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it was the catalyst for something.
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And you kind of moved in, in an upward straight line, right?
39:46
like a stair step straight line.
39:48
And that's very much.
39:50
Generators also, they're builders, like I build things and usually
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they're at their best when they're building something they love.
39:56
But what I really want to talk about are two aspects of your chart.
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Um, Well, three, you being a two, four profile, the two is called the hermit.
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Um, Really what it's about is, usually twos love their alone time,
40:10
but the four is inherently social.
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So you have this push pull of like, leave me alone, but I love people.
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I thrive with people.
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Um, And you know, the fact that a lot of your growth has come through masterminds
40:24
and through networking and through just the people that you know, um, really
40:29
speaks to that four line connection opportunity comes through people and
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it's through the people that you know, and the people who know those people.
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And then the two though is just I'm just a natural at things.
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There's just something that I'm good at, whether I've been schooled
40:42
at it or not doesn't matter.
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I just have this natural talent.
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And then the rest of the chart starts to clue us into what those talents can be.
40:49
Now, one of them you have, the channel of something called the Perfected Form,
40:53
and the channel of Perfected Form is about aesthetics, usually people who
40:58
have this channel, there's just this draw to outer beauty, the things that,
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you know, things that just Visually are appealing aesthetics or say Anna Wintour.
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This is her only channel.
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She has just this one.
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Um, And it's just about impeccable taste and a way to, to really see the beauty
41:16
in things and how things go together.
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So you have that talent and then you have this, this design of talent being
41:22
a two line where there's just like your thing is just going to be your thing.
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And you won't be able to, you don't necessarily have to explain it.
41:28
It's just like, I'm just, this is just what I'm born
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to
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Chellie Carlson: is what it
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Nicole Laino: When 2's are doing what there born to do life supports
41:36
them in really amazing ways.
41:37
Now, being a vessel of love, the vessel of love, there's
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only, it is a very unique cross.
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This is, and our incarnation cross is like our purpose in life.
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And the, there's a lead gate to everyone's purpose.
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And yours is gate 10, which I wanna, I want to call out a couple of things.
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Cause it's, it's sort of freaky.
41:56
Gate 10 is the gate of authentic self.
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Behavior of the authentic self.
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So when you are being authentic then you become an example for others
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to be their most authentic self to behave where nobody cares, you
42:11
don't care what anybody else thinks.
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And the moment that you become self conscious, that's when things don't work.
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And by you being in your power in that gate, you, therefore,
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that's how this energy works.
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It's not a, I teach you how to do this, it's literally by you being in that
42:28
energy, you provide that energy for others and you become the example of
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what could be for them by being that.
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That's literally what your brand is.
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When we do branding by human design, that would be like the, the north
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star of your brand is authenticity.
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and loving yourself.
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But then we go over to the other side to your unconscious
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sun, which is the 46th gate.
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And the 46th gate is the gate of the love of the body.
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And so it's these two that the outer light and the inner light for you are love of
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your authentic self and just behaving as yourself and being who you're meant to be.
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And then the 46 gate love of the body to just say, I love this human form.
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I love this human experience, what a gift it is to be alive, and what
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a gift it is to be in this skin suit that we are walking around in, in
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this body, and how can we love it?
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And the 46s tend to, you know, There's a, my body is a temple kind of thing can
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definitely be a consistent theme where we, when a 46 takes care of their body,
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it doesn't mean being perfect, but where you feel like you're nourishing your body,
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that is also contagious to other people.
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And that's something that's more something you share versus necessarily being
43:48
an example of, although you can be.
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Um, But these aspects to me just popped out where.
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Because ultimately a vessel of love, you're here to be an expression of love
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in all of its forms and it's going to be what You love comes through you.
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And usually when you said that, you know, women would come to you when you worked
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in the lingerie company and they would immediately feel comfortable with you.
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That's what vessel of love people do.
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It's you just have a feel good energy that people feel good around you.
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And.
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So these are just, there's so much more obviously in the chart, but those were
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things that when I see people who are living so in alignment with what they were
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designed to do, I wanna give that example too to everybody listening, because when
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you step into your gifts, They become more than just your gifts, they're, then you.
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start to be a living, breathing example of them, And.
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it goes beyond you, and I think that's what you're doing.
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You affect so many people with the love of what you do, whether it's your
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Instagram, which everybody should be following her on Instagram, she's at
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Shelly Carlson On on I. G. We will link that up in the show notes for you.
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Of course, and you should join the membership because the membership
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is so ridiculously affordable.
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It is so amazing and it is the great, the best first step into your world.
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If you can't make the big jump to the full shop and the full method.
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It is so Jam packed with value and education on how you can
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live as your highest self.
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So I, through your style.
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So I just wanted to share that with you and with everybody here.
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and I want to thank you for being here and for sharing your
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wisdom and your gifts here.
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Chellie Carlson: Thank you for having me.
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It was beautiful.
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I could talk to you all day
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Nicole Laino: same.
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Is there anything that you wanted to say to the listeners
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before we, before we wrap up?
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Chellie Carlson: no.
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Just, yeah, come follow me on the IG.
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Let's hang out.
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Nicole Laino: She has such great content.
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She, she puts up such great content.
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Um, So please follow her again.
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She's at Shelly Carlson.
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You can find her on IG and send her a DM.
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Share this episode on your stories and tag both of us.
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I'm at Nicole Laino, official tag us and let us know what you thought about it.
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Show us your signature style, Shelley.
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Thank you for being here.
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I appreciate you.
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Thank you.
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listener for making it to the end of the episode with us.
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Remember in order to have an unshakable business, you must
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Everybody.
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