Latest / Beyond the Facade with Choose Recovery Services and Blueprint Institute / 61: Discover Your True Values - with Sy Bee
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- 0:00All right, everybody, we got Part 2 of our episode that we
- 0:03started last week with PSY really around emotional based
- 0:06decisions versus principal based decisions.
- 0:09So just a friendly reminder. The question for you is if your
- 0:13emotions LED you into any type of hiding or secrecy, how can
- 0:17you trust them to lead you towards truth and recovery?
- 0:20So today we're going to be asking and continuing to talk
- 0:23about those critical questions. How do I in recovery define my
- 0:27values when my emotions can be trusted?
- 0:29We're going to talk a little bit about size, experience with how
- 0:32he makes decisions, some that he made with emotions and some that
- 0:37he made with values. So we're going to dive into that
- 0:39with Sigh. Welcome to Beyond the Facade
- 0:44podcast. I'm your host, Luke Gordon, and
- 0:47I'm thrilled to have you join me in this space today.
- 0:49What we're going to be doing is diving deep into the trials and
- 0:51triumphs and truths of seeking authenticity.
- 0:55Becoming your true self isn't about a single action or a
- 0:57moment. It's a relentless pursuit, a
- 1:00commitment to self that reveals the rich connection and meaning
- 1:03that our life has to offer. So whether this is your first
- 1:06time tuning in or you're a regular listener, know this what
- 1:09you're building here goes beyond a conversation.
- 1:12You're here to challenge, to change and to celebrate the
- 1:14incredible journey of becoming your authentic self.
- 1:18Because when you dare to show up fully, the rewards are
- 1:20immeasurable. So welcome to Beyond the facade.
- 1:23Let's get started. All right, everybody, we're back
- 1:27here with Psy. You can tell different
- 1:28background, different place, all the things excited to continue
- 1:32with conversation around emotionally based decisions
- 1:35rather than values based decisions.
- 1:37So sigh, you said something is lost on, hey, if we talk about
- 1:41races, that's a long story for another day, but can we dive
- 1:45back into the experiences you've had of of, I don't know, maybe
- 1:52giving up on a race because of it was hard versus when it's
- 1:55wise and making decisions and making choices not based off
- 1:59emotion. Yeah, absolutely.
- 2:02So my first 100 mile race, I stopped mall 69, all right.
- 2:07And the reason I use 69 all the time is that's the that's the
- 2:11distance I went before I stopped.
- 2:13I would have stopped earlier, but I had to walk the rest of
- 2:15the way to my car. It probably would have had ended
- 2:18earlier, but I made the decision to stop earlier than that with
- 2:21mall 69. Is that that's why I use it,
- 2:23right? I was having issues, bowel
- 2:27movements were stopping and. This was your first long race,
- 2:31right? Your first 100 mile race.
- 2:32The furthest I'd gone before this race was 32.4.
- 2:38Yeah, 31.2. Sorry, 50K.
- 2:42That'd be it. That was a furthest I'd gone up
- 2:45to that point. Let me backtrack.
- 2:47This furthest race I'd ran, I did it last month standing race
- 2:50where I made it to 49.5 miles. So I had gone a good distance.
- 2:55But that last man standing race is a different type of race.
- 2:59So there's a lot, it's different.
- 3:00That's a different one to explain.
- 3:02And that one also, I didn't keep going due to emotions as well.
- 3:06Emotionally based decision. I'll I can cover that too.
- 3:10This ball 69, like I logically it made sense.
- 3:14I had issues going on and I just, yeah, I logically in my
- 3:19mind, it made sense if I kept going.
- 3:22I have no idea what the health consequences were.
- 3:25They couldn't find out. What I really needed was some
- 3:28medicine to help out with that. Wait about 20-30 minutes and I
- 3:32probably would have been just fine and I could have kept going
- 3:36either way. So with that, it was backed up
- 3:40with logic. But it really came down to I was
- 3:42out at night, middle of the night at 4:00 AM in the middle
- 3:47of the mountains in West TX, really cold, even though it was
- 3:51March. But when you're, you've burnt
- 3:54thousands and thousands of calories and you have very
- 3:58little energy in you and you're climbing, going up and down
- 4:02mountains and it's cold 4:00 AM and you haven't seen anybody in
- 4:06two to three hours, right? You, you start making decisions.
- 4:11It's like, do I still keep going?
- 4:14What good is going to come out of this?
- 4:16I hear that conversation. I hear that question a lot of
- 4:19times talking to guys. What good is going to come out
- 4:22of having a conversation with my wife about what just came up for
- 4:27me? What good is that?
- 4:29What good is, is what are your values?
- 4:32Who are you going to choose to be OK?
- 4:35And if one thing I want to say clear, like what is a value,
- 4:40right? A person's principle or standard
- 4:43of behavior, very plain and simple, OK, One's judgement.
- 4:49So a person's principle or standard of behavior, I think
- 4:54it's a very important definition of value, OK?
- 4:57Or you can add to it a little bit.
- 4:59One's judgement of what is important in life, OK, So in
- 5:04that moment of do I share what just really came up for me and
- 5:09what good is it if you don't? Do you then are changing your
- 5:15principles or standards of honesty, transparency,
- 5:20integrity, and you're withholding information that's
- 5:24coming up for you? So that's an emotionally based
- 5:27decision out of could be fear, could be apathy towards the
- 5:33conversation, right. But if you go back to the race,
- 5:37and I'm sorry if I jumped back and forth at that time, it was
- 5:40like, what goods can you come out of this?
- 5:42I'm in the middle of night by myself.
- 5:44I probably won't even make the next cut off.
- 5:48What was my value? My value is I'm not going to
- 5:51quit. I could I hold that I try to
- 5:54limp by that. I just don't quit what I start
- 5:57and I'll give all the effort I can.
- 6:00But I changed that due to the fear of health problems, which
- 6:06is a logically sounds very valid.
- 6:09But I was in pain. My feet hurt.
- 6:12I have never had my feet hurt so bad in my life.
- 6:15It hurts so bad to the point I wasn't walking around the next
- 6:18day after I got home. So that's an emotionally based
- 6:22decision based on pain, fear and I went against my values.
- 6:28Now if I hadn't made the cut off and they pulled me out of it, I
- 6:32would have had a different feeling towards the race.
- 6:35But I still finish the race left and within two hours I was like,
- 6:40golly, I could have kept going. There's not much of A worse
- 6:46feeling than knowing you just did something you wish you
- 6:50wouldn't have done because of an emotionally based decision.
- 6:56So do you regret that? I in a way, if I hadn't, I would
- 7:05regret it if I hadn't tried again.
- 7:10That's powerful, yeah. What?
- 7:14So say more, will you? My next race, so I that was
- 7:18March. I didn't run another race until
- 7:23October and I ran the Arkansas Traveller 100.
- 7:27You have a 30 hour cut off. I finished in 28 1/2 hours.
- 7:33Greatest feeling I've ever felt in my life and I'm very grateful
- 7:37for the things I learned from the first race.
- 7:39Yeah. I implemented Imodium, right?
- 7:43It makes a huge difference. You got to learn from your
- 7:46mistakes. And I implemented a lot of
- 7:49watermelon in my diet while running.
- 7:52Watermelon. Yeah, watermelon.
- 7:54Sure. Like 35 questions, but we'll
- 7:56stay away from that. Sugar and hydration at the same
- 7:59time, anywhere. OK.
- 8:00So I got a question for you there.
- 8:01Was there anything else you wanted to share as part of your
- 8:03story? No, I just, I went and completed
- 8:06a race that I probably wouldn't have finished had I not learned
- 8:10from my failure before. OK.
- 8:13So I would have regretted it, but I went and reapplied myself.
- 8:18There's this thing that I have in recovery that I think was my
- 8:21experience, but also I've noticed with others of what are
- 8:25my values? How do I know what my values
- 8:27are? And people are always like what
- 8:29do anything? We talked about this in the Part
- 8:311, but how do I know how to pick my values?
- 8:36Because I really want to pick my values based off of motion and I
- 8:39don't really trust my emotions. So how can I pick a value?
- 8:44Because it might mislead me and I think you talked a little bit
- 8:46about it, but what's the problem with emotionally derived values?
- 8:50Do you have any thoughts on that?
- 8:53I may go down a rabbit hole with this one.
- 8:55Look, and I'll use an example of what you're talking about,
- 8:58right? Someone who is a people pleaser.
- 9:00They want to please people. They do everything to make
- 9:04someone happy. And one of their values is
- 9:07service. They value serving other people.
- 9:10Where's the issue with that? Well, everything they do is to
- 9:16please other people. Why are they doing it?
- 9:20And that is an important aspect, right?
- 9:23I value serving other people, but I'm not a people pleaser and
- 9:28there's emotions behind that people pleasing that feed their
- 9:34ability to try to make themselves look and be that
- 9:39people pleaser because they're scared to look any other way.
- 9:43And it's really fear driven rather than caring about others
- 9:48driven. So how do you know when I wanted
- 9:52to ask a question like this way? But it's probably not the right
- 9:54way to ask it. How do you know if you have the
- 9:55right value? That, that is a good question.
- 9:59Last part, we talked about how it, it could be trial and error.
- 10:04A lot of times if we sit down in a time of like calmness and we
- 10:11really think through our situations and we especially
- 10:16addicts coming out of addiction or someone who's coming out of a
- 10:19habit, habitual behavior in which we're trying to change.
- 10:25We don't know who we are. And this is one of the first
- 10:29things we have to do is work on figuring out who we are.
- 10:33And part of that is figuring out the standards or behaviors of
- 10:37which we want to live our life by, which is values.
- 10:42And we have to figure out how we want to live that way.
- 10:45So someone in recovery who has been lying and manipulating
- 10:49their whole life and trying to please other people may come
- 10:54back and be like, you know, I do value serving other people, but
- 10:58I value honesty, integrity and transparency over serving others
- 11:05now, because I've spent my whole life trying to serve others, but
- 11:09it's been all for my own benefit, not actually serving
- 11:14others. And so I might have to change
- 11:17what that value actually is to maybe the exact opposite of what
- 11:21we've been living and try that out for a while.
- 11:23OK, so this is huge. OK, so I put some thought into
- 11:26this and let's give this a little bit of a reframe here.
- 11:31OK, so if I recognize that I've been asking this question and
- 11:36still like, what do I feel like I value?
- 11:38Let's reframe this more of I'm going to discover what I value
- 11:42rather than reconstruct. And the biggest thing that I've
- 11:45noticed is people go into values and choose values based upon
- 11:49what other people have told them rather than going through the
- 11:52process of discovering what's important to them.
- 11:55So they end up living off of other people's values.
- 11:57So maybe some questions you could ask yourself is what do I
- 12:00want to be true about me? And maybe checking into a little
- 12:04bit of when my feelings betrayed me and I made a value decision
- 12:09based off of what I thought was a values decision, what I
- 12:12learned from it about it, what I actually value and that reframe
- 12:17of a discovery rather than it could reconstruct kind of his
- 12:20recovery. Who am I?
- 12:21What am I all about? And that that really is around
- 12:25values. Any thoughts on that side?
- 12:27I think you're 100% right. You have a very good use of
- 12:30words on that, one of a discovery.
- 12:33And that's one thing going back to races I've discovered about
- 12:36myself is that I really value going out and finishing what I
- 12:45start out to do. And something that I realized
- 12:51after working towards accomplishing that, that in
- 12:54addiction, I didn't finish many things.
- 13:00And I realized that led to a lot of shame.
- 13:05And after going out and discovering the fact that I
- 13:08value finishing things that I start out to accomplish, it's
- 13:13amazing the difference I have felt.
- 13:16So discovering is very important because you not only have lived
- 13:22a life of living by emotions, and they've all have failed to
- 13:27provide a solidified or proper branding for your values, but it
- 13:35may seem like they have led you down the wrong path and lied to
- 13:39you at the same time. So we may have been lying to
- 13:43ourselves our whole lives. Nice for what other people say
- 13:47or our emotions. I swear you're like looking at
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- 15:01Let's use your story and I'm going to ask you some questions
- 15:03and tell me what comes up for you.
- 15:04You go to that. Yeah.
- 15:06OK. So I'm going to give you a
- 15:07three-part framework or the listeners, those are you here
- 15:10with us today, three-part framework for helping you
- 15:13identify your values. So first one, look at the
- 15:16wreckage. Sigh.
- 15:16If you look at the wreckage of your behavior back in the day.
- 15:20And then we're and we're getting to a place of identifying values
- 15:23like what behaviors LED you to betray or to harm or LED you to
- 15:28shame. What are some of those
- 15:29behaviors? I'm going to guide you through
- 15:31this. So what led me to those
- 15:34behaviors? What behaviors led to the
- 15:38betrayal, the harm or the personal shame?
- 15:40Behaviors led to the betrayal or personal shame.
- 15:44The behaviors were pornography, watching, masturbation,
- 15:51emotional affairs and lying, manipulating.
- 15:57OK. Yeah, just to give a few.
- 16:00OK, when you were on the other side of the wreckage, when you
- 16:03were looking at all the harm, if you reflect on it, what felt
- 16:07like misaligned, what felt like it wasn't actually you when you
- 16:10were participating in that behavior, even though it felt
- 16:13right in the moment. Is it OK to say all of it?
- 16:21Probably ultimately you betrayed yourself, right?
- 16:24There was something really important to you and all that,
- 16:26right? It felt right in the moment, but
- 16:28you were misaligned afterwards. You're like, no, that wasn't me
- 16:31so. It felt like a solution to the
- 16:36problem I was having and it felt like a relief from whatever was
- 16:40coming up at that moment. It could have been boredom, it
- 16:43could have been fear, it could have been shame.
- 16:46A lot of different things I removed myself from and it
- 16:54logically, like Matt, this, my brain was very much trained.
- 16:57Hey, this is this. I'll fix the issue quick.
- 17:00OK, so let's go to Part 2 of this question.
- 17:02So now that you're thinking about, you're reflecting, you
- 17:04got the emotion whatever your fell inside around the wreckage
- 17:07like OK, what was I doing? And it felt right in the moment,
- 17:11but it really I was misaligned afterwards.
- 17:14OK, OK, so now look at beneath the behavior.
- 17:18What were you really craving? What did you really want Was a
- 17:20love, was a respect, was a connection security,
- 17:23significance. What was it?
- 17:25What were you really longing for?
- 17:28You'd friend this really well, Luke.
- 17:29What I was looking for, craving for.
- 17:34Well, there's quite a bit to it. I could go on for a while, but
- 17:37to give the two main ones was love.
- 17:42OK. I wanted to feel love and
- 17:44appreciate it and I wanted to feel like I was worth something.
- 17:54Love and worth something. Love, love and what do you say
- 17:57worth something? What does worth something mean
- 18:00that you have like I brought? Do you have value?
- 18:03Like I had, yeah, like I had value.
- 18:05I was providing something that was helpful to other people.
- 18:11I was worth something to someone else.
- 18:13I was worth something to. And that's not that I'm looking
- 18:17to be worth something if someone else, but trying to explain
- 18:19this, I wanted to provide worth and value in what I did and
- 18:34that's looking back on it moving forward to where I'm at now.
- 18:37What that really looks like is I wanted to know I was OK and I
- 18:47really wanted to know that I wasn't a piece of crap.
- 18:53Yeah. Alright, so let's go ahead and
- 18:56give me one of the values you mentioned a couple.
- 18:58Give me one of them. One of my values.
- 19:00Yeah, just one of the ones that you mentioned, just one of them.
- 19:02And let me backtrack this. OK, I wanted to feel OK with
- 19:07myself. I want I want to do things that
- 19:11are. Like peace with inside of
- 19:13myself, yeah. Peace within my side of myself,
- 19:15trying to put down my words. Yeah, no, that's great.
- 19:17OK, so define that value is the opposite of the survival
- 19:23behavior. So I wanted peace once inside
- 19:26myself and to be myself. So what?
- 19:28How did you survive to get that in very destructive ways?
- 19:31What was your survival mechanism to get that peace even though
- 19:34you didn't really get it? What were you doing?
- 19:37All the things I mentioned before, acting out sexually,
- 19:41keeping my mind occupied by other things, Yeah, here's this
- 19:46is this was very destructive. I would overcompensate and try
- 19:51to do everything around the house.
- 19:54I would be quick to wash the dishes, I'd be quick to do
- 20:00whatever I was asked to do, and I'd be quick to say I'm sorry.
- 20:06OK, so is if I look, I'm going to I'm going to pull one out of
- 20:10it. I desire peace within myself and
- 20:12what I do it is I had sexual behavior and it gave me a
- 20:15mirage, a fake experience with peace with inside of myself.
- 20:19OK, it give me a, a version of that that wasn't sustainable.
- 20:24OK, that wasn't really peace. So your value showed up, your
- 20:29values show up as like an opposite of the survival
- 20:33behaviour. So we call this, we call this,
- 20:36it's some of my favorite work ever.
- 20:38It's values and shadow expression framework.
- 20:41Let me give you an example of this.
- 20:43But if I value authenticity, OK, the shadow expression, the
- 20:47shadow side of this is I seek validation, I'm managing my
- 20:51perception. I'm wearing a mask.
- 20:53I want to come across as like healed or a good man.
- 20:57And I've always in the, I always thought for the longest time, if
- 21:00I'm doing that stuff, I don't value authenticity.
- 21:03And that's so wrong. That's the reason I do that
- 21:07stuff is because I value authenticity is because I, I, I
- 21:10value who I am. So I'm putting on a mask to get
- 21:14people to see who I am. So that's the shadow side.
- 21:18That's the side that I don't want to have take over.
- 21:20But if I have that reframe that empowered state, then it becomes
- 21:24and I don't need to be perceived as anything.
- 21:26I just need to be real and honest in the moment.
- 21:30That's that empowered state compared to like that reactive
- 21:33state. And that's what I'm thinking of.
- 21:34Sigh. I've had the pleasure of having
- 21:36a somewhat of a front row seat to your journey.
- 21:39You go from a place of wanting to feel peace through acting out
- 21:43behavior. It not working and you did.
- 21:45You valued peace with himself and then you go on this journey
- 21:48of running ultras and you ultimately find yourself in
- 21:53that. You get this real sense of self
- 21:56through that. So the value never changed,
- 21:58right? Anyway, thoughts on that side?
- 22:01No. Truthfully, a lot of times I
- 22:05think we have our values picked out but we don't know how to
- 22:12live by them. We have learned, hey, I do value
- 22:17this, but in the moment it feels safer and better to do this
- 22:24right. Give you an example.
- 22:27I have a really good person who three months sober, feeling
- 22:30really good about himself, been going to group for a while and
- 22:34he's starting to get things in line, emotionally based.
- 22:38Let's start with this. He values family.
- 22:41That's one of his values. We'll stop going to group, OK,
- 22:47Mainly because the thought in his mind was I want to go home
- 22:50and walk with my wife. I want to stay at home and just
- 22:52go spend the Sunday evening and I walk with my wife.
- 22:55Makes sense. It's a value, like it's a value
- 22:59of his, OK. But the understanding there is
- 23:03additional value that we need to process everything through
- 23:07rather than just the one value, correct?
- 23:11Yeah. I like that, yeah, I value
- 23:13peace, but at the same time I also value doing something
- 23:18really hard. And sometimes when you're doing
- 23:20some part, there's not peace. One of his values is also
- 23:26recovery, living his recovery life as he's supposed to,
- 23:30because without recovery, it doesn't have his family.
- 23:34Without recovery, he doesn't have his other values either,
- 23:37which is a secure job, which is a job and a career to provide
- 23:42for his family. Because acting out takes over
- 23:44black. And as he continues to gain
- 23:47sobriety, he's better equipped to provide for his family.
- 23:50He's better equipped to be present with his family.
- 23:54But because he allowed the thought to or the emotion of
- 23:59kind of uncomfortability of a group to sway him to do
- 24:04something more printable, which isn't a bad choice to spend time
- 24:08with his family. So you making decisions have to
- 24:12step back and make sure that the choice you make doesn't take
- 24:16away from all your top four values.
- 24:20And the reason I say 4 is you go more than that.
- 24:22You start, they start overlapping anyway.
- 24:25Yeah, yeah, There's so much overlap.
- 24:28I look at you and your journey and I go, it seems to me from
- 24:32the outside looking in that there's a level of peace inside
- 24:36of you that exists about self, like relationship with self.
- 24:39I'm good with me. I'm not perfect.
- 24:41I don't have anything figured out, but I'm good with me.
- 24:43That seems to exist. Is that fair to say?
- 24:46That is fair to say, yes. So that value has always
- 24:50existed. It's just how you went about it.
- 24:53And I just keep thinking about you with the running stuff.
- 24:55Like it's almost seems counterintuitive to realize that
- 24:59what you did to get peace with himself really didn't look like
- 25:04it was going to those activities don't look like they're going to
- 25:08produce that, but they do that connection to self.
- 25:12Absolutely. It's kind of like give you a
- 25:15little history. So after D-Day, one of my
- 25:18brothers literally told me, Luke, you can't run your way to
- 25:22recovery. Oh man, what do you think about
- 25:26that? I had another brother tell me,
- 25:29hey Psy, you have to do something that you enjoy and you
- 25:33can't stop watching sports. These people are telling you
- 25:36what you can and can't do right. Yeah, one of the things I've
- 25:39learned is going back to what you were asking, right, is
- 25:48learning that the perceived route in which to obtain peace
- 25:55for a lot of other people is different for everyone.
- 26:01For me, I gained peace by doing something hard and knowing that
- 26:08I'm OK. I gained peace by knowing that
- 26:12go this route, knowing that I have done nothing wrong in the
- 26:19most important relationship to me, which is gone.
- 26:22And that's one of the most important relationships.
- 26:25And if I'm OK there, my wife can get mad at me and we can have a
- 26:31hard discussion. But if I've done nothing wrong
- 26:35and or rephrase that from not just knowing I'm OK with God,
- 26:39but knowing that I haven't done anything else on my values,
- 26:43there is peace there. It's not just a value, it's my
- 26:49values. And if you can take your time
- 26:51and sit back and make decisions based on your values, Not a
- 26:57value, but your values, That time in between a thought and an
- 27:02action. The more time there is in
- 27:05between there, the more likely it is to align with your values.
- 27:09Your emotional based decisions tend to be very a lot quicker
- 27:14decisions. Yeah, I do want to take a moment
- 27:18and maybe give some more examples of I just really like
- 27:22this this all right, What's my core value?
- 27:25What's my shadow expression, which is a protective slash
- 27:28reactive state? And then what's my
- 27:30transformational reframe, what's empowered state?
- 27:32So let me give you some more examples of these.
- 27:34So maybe somebody goes, I don't know if I value integrity, do I
- 27:39am value tegrity because I've lied a lot in my life.
- 27:41Like I've I've been, I don't know, not perfect.
- 27:44I've lacked integrity. So that must mean I don't value
- 27:47it, right? So let me tell you what the
- 27:49shadow expression or the reactive or protective state is
- 27:53of somebody that values integrity, idealism, rigidity,
- 27:59harsh self judgement and unrealistic standards.
- 28:04Let me just think about that like that actually for me would
- 28:07have been hard to see that person values integrity when
- 28:10they're idealistic, when there's a lot of self judgement, very
- 28:14rigid, unrealistic standards. Integrity is something that's
- 28:18important to them. So if it's not the shadow side,
- 28:21if it's like the transformational side, that
- 28:22empowered state, what does that look like?
- 28:24They value integrity, but it's like integrity is not
- 28:27perfection. It's really me returning to
- 28:29alignment within compassion if I lose my way.
- 28:32So it's less rigid. So that's an example with
- 28:36integrity. I wanted to share one that has
- 28:39to do with one that comes up a lot here, which is do I value
- 28:44trust? What does that look like for me?
- 28:46Do I value trust in others or in self for others or the process?
- 28:51So the shadow expression, the proactive or reactive state is
- 28:55that person would control, they would micromanage outcomes, they
- 28:59would over function. But that more of transfer
- 29:02transformational state, that empowered state is they go OK, I
- 29:05can release control. I can trust.
- 29:08The strength also means letting go and letting others show up
- 29:12for themselves. I can let people not be perfect.
- 29:15So that person still values trust.
- 29:18There's a couple of a couple of more than I wanted to share
- 29:20side. Does anything come up with those
- 29:22here in the shadow side and the empowered side?
- 29:25I can talk to a lot of that. And you brought up earlier the
- 29:33often times the things you do value in addiction and when you
- 29:37move into recovery, you discover that, hey, yeah, I actually do
- 29:41value, let's say, integrity, right?
- 29:44Which if you don't know the definition of integrity is the
- 29:47quality of being honest and having strong moral principles
- 29:52or moral uprightness, right? The reason I put that in there
- 29:56having strong mere principles. No one I have ever met who
- 30:03enters recovery value not have. They don't value having not
- 30:12strong moral principles. We try to have an issue with
- 30:14words on that one. Everybody values having that
- 30:20enters recovery values having and straining our principles and
- 30:27integrity is part of that. And often times we get lost in
- 30:32just knowing how to follow our values.
- 30:36And when we talk about the shallow side, that really comes
- 30:39down to did you ever actually learn how to have integrity
- 30:43grown up, Luke, or you get hit in the rear end with for.
- 30:46Lying. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 30:49We never learned how to overcome our fear of telling the truth
- 30:55because of the outcome that might happen.
- 30:57We never learned to let go of the outcome.
- 31:01And a lot of the times, in my experience, Luke, the reason
- 31:06those shadow parts still exist, it's because we never learned
- 31:12how to, I love that, address them and approach them.
- 31:16And it comes down to education. And part of recovery is
- 31:20discovery of how to do things and learning the process of how
- 31:25to address hard emotions and how to do the things that quite
- 31:32frankly scare us to death, like have an integrity or being
- 31:37honest. So that, and I'm talking about
- 31:41those shadow side of things, it's I'll go in her child a
- 31:44little bit or in her child. If you let a child drive a bus,
- 31:50what happens? They wreck.
- 31:53Yeah, run. A good thing.
- 31:54Not a good thing. Running the bar pit, running
- 31:57over the fence, or running the cars.
- 31:58You said bar pit. Yeah, I did.
- 32:01Which is only like a Idaho, Utah thing, apparently.
- 32:03So that happens when you let a kid drive a bus.
- 32:09When we're older and we're still letting our inner child drive
- 32:14our decisions, what happens? It's the same outcome over and
- 32:19over again. Although when we were kids, it
- 32:21may have seemed like it worked. We didn't get hurt because when
- 32:26you drive a bus and you run over a fence, you're not really going
- 32:29to feel much. But that all changes the older
- 32:33you get and we start trying to redo the same thing over and
- 32:37over again. But we never learned how to
- 32:39actually drive the bus. Yeah, but that's a good analogy.
- 32:44Did you just come up with that? Came up with a while ago with
- 32:49myself, yeah. So there's this.
- 32:51Let me give you one more and then let's talk about how to
- 32:55maybe invite a different invite you into a different way to to
- 33:01discover values. So let me give you one more of
- 33:03the shadow side. This one comes up a lot in
- 33:06recovery. My value, I value excellence.
- 33:09OK, So what does that look like? The shadow side of that
- 33:11performance, like performative empathy, I think often urgency,
- 33:17like there's some urgency over identification with
- 33:20achievements. What I achieve, that's who I am.
- 33:23That's that's a shadow expression of that value.
- 33:26OK, what's a transformational reframe?
- 33:28What's the empowered state with excellence?
- 33:31You might be saying something like excellence being more like
- 33:34sustained through being present in myself, alignment in thyself,
- 33:38not through the hustle or the overachieving.
- 33:41So you know, there's a shadow side of it.
- 33:43There's a transformational reframe that makes it last a
- 33:45while. So the invitation here can be
- 33:51build this into daily routines. If there's a discovery, it can
- 33:55be intentional where you come back to it often and you check
- 33:57in maybe in the morning, which what do I value?
- 34:00What's going to happen today if there's a shadow expression, a
- 34:03shadow side of it that's driving our behavior, What would that
- 34:05be? Here's my favorite part to find
- 34:08values. Here's some framework for you.
- 34:10Parts work. If you don't know what parts
- 34:13work is, I recognize you'd have to do a little bit of research
- 34:15here, but we've talked about it a lot.
- 34:17Parts work, integration. So start to invite your
- 34:20protector parts and protector parts into the conversation.
- 34:24So ask what are you trying to protect me from?
- 34:27What do you need to feel safe enough to let my core values
- 34:31lead? They'll tell you a lot about
- 34:34what you value, a lot about what you value, because they're going
- 34:39to point in a direction of something that really, really
- 34:41matters, and it might be surprising what it ends up
- 34:45being. Any other thoughts on this whole
- 34:47value conversation say? Yeah, absolutely good way.
- 34:53Another way to find out values, you're talking about parts work
- 34:57and the protectors coming out. I'll go back to the inner child
- 35:00part and kind of talk about one of the things that I realized, a
- 35:04great way to learn values. Kids love the rewards.
- 35:10They like to recognize the benefit of doing something
- 35:14right. One thing I've implemented early
- 35:18on in recovery and I tried to implement every once in a while
- 35:21is did I do something today that got me out of my comfort zone?
- 35:26What emotion was it that tried to stop me?
- 35:31How did I feel after doing it? Example.
- 35:35This is an extreme example, but jumping off the Cliff into like
- 35:39scary as all get up here. Don't know if it's worth it.
- 35:44When you jump it feels amazing. Was it worth the junk?
- 35:48Absolutely. You got that reward.
- 35:51How did it feel afterwards versus before?
- 35:55The greatest things in life are on the other side of fear.
- 35:58If you make a fear based decision, you get stuck in your
- 36:01comfort zone. And a great way to Start
- 36:06learning your values is if it's something on a fear doing and
- 36:11you do it and it was better on the other side of fear.
- 36:17Yeah, it might be worth continuing to make decisions
- 36:19like that. For instance, having hard
- 36:22conversations with my wife, I feared even talking to her, but
- 36:27the more I did, the more I realized the high value talking
- 36:31to my wife. But yeah, it points right to it,
- 36:35right? What we feel there's the value,
- 36:37right? Yeah.
- 36:40So here's the invitation. Go discover.
- 36:43If you're not familiar with your values, just some discovery,
- 36:46check with those projector parts.
- 36:47The inner child work like size talking about.
- 36:51You don't have to nail it. You don't have to get it right.
- 36:53Do some exploratory work. Write down 3 values that you
- 36:56lead with and then journal with the shadow side of that is with
- 37:00the protector side of that is. And as you go through this is
- 37:04about finding self. OK, so I, we're going to start
- 37:07to wrap out this conversation. Any other thoughts before we
- 37:10wrap it out? Keep doing something
- 37:13uncomfortable hard and you'll Start learning how much you can
- 37:18actually accomplish, and you might realize you have some
- 37:23pretty amazing standards in which you want your life to be
- 37:27lived by. Yeah, absolutely.
- 37:30OK, Thanks for coming back. We won't do a Part 3 of this one
- 37:34side, but hope you come back for another episode in the future.
- 37:37Absolutely all. Right, talk to you later,
- 37:39everybody. See ya.
- 37:44Hey, thanks for joining us today.
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