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Iranian Diaspora vs The Shi'a (Ft. Hassan Al-Qadri) · After Maghrib 🌙

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  Mullah. Brothers, sisters, welcome back
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  to the Aftermarket, a podcast. We're in a new year, but
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  unfortunately situations are continuing.
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  We've seen over the last few years so much tension and strife
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  building up in the Middle East. We've seen the genocide in
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  Palestine, we've seen war all across the region, and
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  unfortunately foreign intervention has continued along
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  the way as well. Today we're going to be talking
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  about what's been happening in Iran and particularly the effect
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  on the Shia community around the world.
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  Now, of course, if you've been following the podcasts over the
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  last three years, you'll know that we are primarily a
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  faith-based channel. We talk about spirituality, how
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  to get close to our last panel to Isla.
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  We talk about the Shia faith, the Shia community, but at times
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  it's imperative that we as a population and of course as
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  issues that affect our people here.
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  We live in a globalized world. That means that if something
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  happens in one corner of the globe, it will affect how it's
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  perceived and and responded to in the other.
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  And in this situation we're in now, we feel that this is an
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  example of that. In the last two or three weeks,
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  we've seen a lot of tension building up in Iran.
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  And that has meant that we've now got to a point where
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  everyday situations are changing.
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  Whether it's the possibility of military intervention, whether
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  the economic sanctions will be continued and upscaled, and
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  whether foreign actors will get involved in what's taking place
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  in Iran to either overthrow or attempt to overthrow the
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  administration or to fortify those who are protesting
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  themselves. But we're not going to get into
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  too much of that now before we introduce our guest, as always,
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  said Ali. Salaam Ali Khan will have to
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  live and work out. How are you, brother?
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  I'm all Hamdallah worried in many ways, but we we put our
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  trust in Allah. Always, always, yeah.
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  And look, it's an app time to talk about this because we are
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  also in the months of spirituality and gaining
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  closeness to the last one to either.
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  As we are recording now, we're approaching the Shahadat and I
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  think by the time this releases will be the Shahadat of our 7th
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  Holy Imam, Imam Musal Qarim Alayhi Salaam, who taught us how
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  to live a life of standing up against oppression, being
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  patient in times of difficulty against the oppressor, and also
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  how to live our lives with Tawakkul and with Iman, that the
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  plan of Allah will always remain victorious.
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  And I think today what we wanna do is be able to understand how
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  the current situation we are in. Yeah.
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  And the world is in ties in with the ultimate plan of online, the
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  lessons we have in our heritage and in our traditions.
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  So we're really honoured, brothers, sisters, to be joined
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  again by someone who needs no introduction.
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  Not only has he been on the podcast three times, I believe
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  I'm not mistaken, three previous times.
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  So Hamdallah for his fourth reappearance.
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  We welcome our dear brother Hassan.
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  How are you, brother? Well, Hamdallah.
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  You've been awfully quite recently on social media.
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  Extremely, yeah. Believe it or not, I actually I
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  know that this is probably hard to accept and agree with me on.
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  I actually don't like the limelight believe it or not,
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  especially after I started having kids and so on.
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  Listen, just let me go into my library and read.
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  You say that I I was on your phone 10 minutes ago and it said
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  that you'd reached millions in the last 30 days.
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  Yeah. Yeah, we don't have the
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  limelight, but you know. We we love the camera of course
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  of. Course you've got to do.
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  What you've got to do, I actually lack a peaceful life.
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  But I believe a Mukman that, you know, wants to stick to his
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  obligations and so on, he's never going to be able to fully
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  have a peaceful life, you know, and that's.
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  Just I agree. Look, I mean, let's kind of set
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  the the pretext here. You, the reason I think why it's
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  it's apartment to have you on is because you were especially
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  within the last week, since the the podcast has released, you
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  have been at the forefront of standing in defence of one of
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  the, the, the largest and the most well known Islamic centres
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  in the UK. And you kind of rallied the
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  Shiite community together to come to defence of a place of
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  worship. I think first and foremost
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  that's imperative to mention that defence of any place of
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  worship is something highly regarded, especially, you know,
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  the places of worship which we ourselves engage in.
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  How did you get to that situation in the 1st place?
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  Why were you there? What happened?
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  Can you give us a bit of a back story for those who have not
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  seen anything? You know, I think most people
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  think it was just like, oh, I found out the Shahies are
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  covered. Let's go and fight there.
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  It wasn't like that. Just a normal Saturday and I was
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  in the area and it was prayer time and so I had to go and do a
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  few things and then I told my wife and kids.
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  I told my wife, you know, take the kids, meet me at Islamic
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  Centre so I can go and pray. So I go and I go inside.
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  I pray and I told my wife, you know sit in the car with my baby
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  daughter because my daughters were still inside playing with
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  the kids and so on and so I go inside.
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  Also I told to go inside so I don't get a ticket when I'm when
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  I'm prayed come back out and I just I see 1 old man across the
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  road near Quiche and he's got a Israeli flag and the old sha
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  flag. So took a quick picture as I'm
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  taking the picture honestly, and I'm typing on for Instagram
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  story about 10-15, maybe 20, something like that.
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  Just 1015 cars pull up and they're going crazy nuts.
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  Shahi flags, mad Persian music or whatever.
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  And I see them park up and they're starting to make their
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  way towards the markets, the centre.
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  And so straight away I run to the car.
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  I can run, you know, it's like a friend says, come on, you as
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  well. Yeah.
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  So straight away I see them coming.
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  I see the threat. Yeah, I told my wife, look, I
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  don't know, you don't know me. Stay in the car and stay safe.
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  I come back in front of the centre and now they're starting
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  to run towards the centre and there's quite a lot of them, I
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  would say between 20 to 30, something like that.
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  So I start going towards them and I'm looking their their
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  faces baffled, like what is this?
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  This guy, guy And I go, we would you not want we doing it?
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  And then I was like, look, there's kids inside.
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  Because I know every Saturday there's Arabic school and so on,
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  and it's all kids and they go we don't care.
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  F this, F this scholar, that scholar.
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  OK, so I was like, yeah, is that what you're not doing?
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  They said, yeah, I said, all right, cool, I'm going to beat
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  you all up then. And then it's just kicked off
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  from there. And then, you know, like when
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  you're in in a fight or you're getting attacked by a lot of
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  people, 15 seconds feels like 15 minutes.
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  Yeah, Yeah. And then I don't know if you
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  remember that scene in Lords of the Rings, I was telling you
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  guys and he goes, you know, the wizard goes, you shall not pass.
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  All I remember saying, Gandal not getting through.
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  And I'm just chucking, I don't know, grabbing people.
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  There's a guy, I see him trying to climb the fence outside the
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  Islamic State. I just grab him.
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  Honestly, I don't. Remember Hulk mode?
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  Yeah, just for a look. I don't know how they weren't
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  able to, you know, attack me properly because, you know, I'm,
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  I'm okay. Numbered.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was outnumbered big time, but
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  I don't know, I was able to kind of like fight them off to a
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  certain degree. You know, we've got a little
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  Persian massage and that. Yeah, yeah.
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  And I think of. The back and and whatnot, but.
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  But all of this is like it started somewhere, right?
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  So if we pull it back, there's this context.
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  Yeah. So if we go back, well, we can
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  go back all the way till, for example, the 7th of October and
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  the events of Yeah. Even.
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  Prior and prior to that, but this is when, for example, Iran
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  went on the world map in terms of like the Western world and
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  here, especially in the UK and the US and all these Western
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  countries, they're like, OK, what is Iran doing?
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  Who's it defending? Why is it taken, for example, on
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  the Palestinian side? So Iran has been on everyone's
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  minds. And now especially, I think in
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  the last two weeks, you know, people turned to the news.
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  They see, for example, something that started off as genuine
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  protests has spiralled into violent, deadly riots across the
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  nation. And saying all of that, my
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  observation is it's not just riots, and it's not just, for
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  example, demonstrations and protests.
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  No, I see copies of the Quran being burnt.
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  I see mosques being set ablaze. I see.
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  Yeah. So they've gone to the extent
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  where I feel like whatever's happening in Iran or whatever's
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  has the back behind all these riots and things like that.
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  As it goes back to one thing, look at the streets today.
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  We look at the protests that they called protests when they
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  came outside the Islamic centre. I think their intention was to
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  attack the Islamic centre rather than protest.
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  They're holding a certain flag and that flag goes back to the
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  state of Israel. So it's not just that people are
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  upset, for example, with Iran. No, I think there's a lot of
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  elements here. These are people who are backed
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  by a certain group, a certain state rather I would say.
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  But they have this element of being anti Islam.
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  Now as a Muslim yourself with Hamdallah, you were there, you
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  went there for Salah, You're with your wife, you're with your
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  with your daughter, but you're at the same time at the mosque.
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  How did that feel? Knowing for example, I don't
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  know how I would have reacted if that was me.
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  Kindly for for me, I'll see for example, OK, I've got my wife,
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  I've got my kids, I've got the mosque.
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  I'll probably freeze if I'm honest in that moment.
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  But you said, don't you put them?
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  Aside, you said this is you said this is like a switch.
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  This is a mosque. It's such a switch so.
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  How have we? My question is, how have we gone
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  from the protests and the riots and the murder and the killing
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  that's happened in Iran to an issue now outside the Islamic
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  centre? So this is the thing, this
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  happened a few years ago as well.
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  Yeah, few years ago it was even worse.
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  They beat up a few people that were harassing old people, that
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  beat up a few old people. It's just crazy now.
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  A lot of the Shahi's did message me and they were condemning what
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  they were doing. So I'm fed.
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  I'm. Fed to them?
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  That's interesting. But the reality of it is it's
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  they should, they should not just only, you know, message me
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  and say, look, we're against this.
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  This shouldn't have happened. No, we need to see clear you,
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  you guys know who they are. So you need to point them out
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  and let the police deal with it. Honestly, when it happened, like
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  I, I usually have a very hectic week.
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  So Saturday's is kind of like just everything just a bit slow.
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  And I was in slow motion mode. Yeah.
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  And then as soon as it happened, I just, I just flipped like that
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  within seconds. And I knew there was children
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  inside. And I was like, listen, you're
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  not getting in. No.
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  No. Good for you man, No.
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  Matter what happens, you're not getting in.
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  But I'll tell you the beautiful thing about with everything that
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  happened is a few hours after that, I put out a video.
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  You know, it's telling everyone, let's assemble.
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  Honestly, 2 to 300 people turned up.
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  And I thought it was such a beautiful thing.
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  Sure, at the end of the day on Sunday when they all, when we
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  all got together, it got a bit out of hand.
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  But we, I did me and you know, the other community leaders did
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  try to control the situation. But generally speaking, it was a
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  very beautiful thing to see because you see in the
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  Shirazi's, the Sistanis, the Najafi, Karbalahi, com Irani,
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  Avani, bro, even my Sunni friends.
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  Gorgeous fucking well. I had a friend of mine, he's a
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  Sunni from Surya that loves Jolani, and he came as well for
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  me. Wow, Wallah.
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  Yeah, it was. It was a beautiful thing to see
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  and it got the community together, which was very
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  important. OK, All right, I think this is
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  interesting. Let's let's zoom out and talk
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  about the bigger picture. So Iran, of course, has had,
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  like you said, turbulence and a lot happening in the last few
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  years from leaders and presidents and commanders and
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  all sorts of high-ranking officials within the
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  administration who have lost their lives for one reason or
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  the other or in different ways and in different places.
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  At the same time, we've also seen, and I think well, like as
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  you alluded to, the rise of economic instability, right?
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  A lot of this comes back to 2018 when Trump was in his first term
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  and he retreated. We he pulled back from the
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  JCPOA, the nuclear proliferation treaty with Iran, which Obama
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  put in place. Of course, since 2018, Iran's
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  been on a slow burnout economically to see economic
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  instability. We've seen, as we know, oil
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  prices have dropped massively in the last few months.
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  And of course, China being the main buyer of Iran's oil, oil
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  being the main export of Iran, that's hit them hard.
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  Inflation all time high between 43 to 50% has like been its peak
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  in the last few months. I think October, November is
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  probably its peak. You know, between 2030% of
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  people in Iran live beneath the poverty line.
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  There's a water crisis. At the same time, the real is
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  has depreciated to like, staggering lows.
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  People are struggling if we're going to be frank and real.
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  As of today, the real has lost 96% of its value.
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  It's insane. So what tends to happen is then
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  shopkeepers can't restock their shelves, parents can't feed
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  their children in many cases, and people are struggling to be
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  able to put a plan in place for how they're going to forecast
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  their lives. So with all this into account,
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  it makes sense to any human being to be able to speak up, to
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  say what I need to say for the sake of being able to feed my
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  family. Any human being, like you said,
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  would defend their children and so on and so forth.
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  I think one of the main differences we're seeing, one of
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  the main questions are and I think when it comes to the
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  reporting in the West, Western reporting, of course we've as
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  you mentioned will inflate and overemphasize and maybe mislead
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  the truth as to what's actually happening in the numbers.
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  We've seen a maximum of only 12,000 people on on the streets
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  in Iran, which is a very small it's less than 0.001% of the
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  total population which is actually been out there.
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  Of course, we've also seen other contradictory reports which say
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  that up to 4000 people have lost lives from security forces.
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  As they say in 12,020 thousand that's.
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  What I'm saying, there's numbers everywhere, but at the same
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  time, we have to remember that the Western reporting of it is
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  that the Iranian people want secularization, right?
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  They want to topple the government and they want to
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  create a new administration, a new revolution.
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  Whereas people in Iran, Iran, perhaps popular opinion or the
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  opinion of perhaps those on the streets might not be
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  secularization, but right perhaps, maybe just reformation.
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  So maybe because we saw in the 12 day war last year that the
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  Iranian people were in many cases publicly supportive of
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  their government's foreign policy positions when it comes
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  to defending the region and their own nation right against
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  foreign intruders and attacks on their country.
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  However, does that also mean that they are anti the Islamic
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  government, the Islamic Republic?
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  Does that mean that there are calls for secularization?
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  We've seen so many riots and protests in the last 15 years.
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  20/10/2011 2019-2020 12023 We've seen the Mass Amini protest, We
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  saw the water crisis protest. We've seen protest after protest
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  after protest. But to this day, of course, the
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  administration still stands and people are still very split.
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  So I'm talking a lot, but I just want to get off my chest.
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  It's such a diverse country, right?
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  You've got Azari Turks, you've got Balochistani, you've got
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  Hazaras, you've got Arabs, you've got native Iranians.
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  So you've got people, all these denominations and backgrounds
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  from different regions who spoke multiple languages and different
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  religions. For them to unite in any
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  circumstance is very difficult. So I wanted to ask kind of just
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  to as a precursor with all of this in context, what is the
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  reason for the instability? Is it a culmination of political
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  instability, foreign policy and stability, economic instability,
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  or is it primarily regime change as we're hearing reported?
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  So I feel like there's a few ways to answer that.
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  I think look there one point that needs to be mentioned is
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  there are that sorry there isn't a statistics or research that
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  shows us. How many people are with the
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  Iranian government and how many are against?
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  But I'm I'm speaking based upon my, you know, understanding and,
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  you know, at the end of the day, I'm Iranian as well.
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  And so I'm looking at how things are.
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  It seems like the country is split into three.
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  In my humble opinion. You have hardcore when I tell
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  fucking fully with the government.
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  Then you have another group that is with the government but don't
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  like some stuff. They want some, you know, reform
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  in certain areas and so on. And then you have the ones that
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  are fully against the government.
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  The ones that are fully against the government are a minority.
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  I promise you what we are seeing is the power of of the media.
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  You can never defeat Britain, America and Europe and the West
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  with regards to their media. It's so powerful.
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  Iran. It's narrative controlling.
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  Yeah, it's, it's literally that. It's like Malawi behaviour.
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  That's what it is. Honestly control the narrative.
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  And you know, they made it seem like there are 1,000,000, not
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  millions. Actually.
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  What we saw is the protests against the rioters in Bahrain.
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  I think it was yesterday or the day before, it was millions upon
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  millions upon millions. And So what they're doing is, is
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  they're making it bigger than it is.
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  And so there's the sanctions. That's one, by the way, I don't
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  know how for over 40 years this government has been able to do
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  what is and survive with the sanctions.
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  Secondly, I think it's important to mention that this was the
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  second attack of Israel. They thought this will topple
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  them. This is what they actually
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  thought. You know that, But it didn't
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  work because you remember the first time in the beginning of
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  the 12 Day war, what did they do?
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  It was all of them. What's it called?
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  Traitors and so on. That did what they did and that
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  first day that killed so many commanders and so on.
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  So there's all these elements that come together that like in
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  the beginning, the protest was just about inflation and so on,
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  right? And then they used it for their
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  momentum to kind of push it. And bro, I think it was in like
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  within a matter of a few days, the, the Iranian pound just
• 22:44
  collapsed like crazy. They're playing with it.
• 22:48
  They want Iran gone. They, I totally believe they're
• 22:52
  going to hit Iran and it's going to be a major war coming do.
• 22:55
  You think, do you think we've seen examples of this before?
• 22:58
  So there's, there's, there's a term which in international
• 23:01
  relations, which we use for cases like this, it's called
• 23:05
  casus bellai. It's a Latin term which
• 23:07
  basically means the case for war or the justification for war.
• 23:12
  Building consent. Building consent and kind of
• 23:15
  setting a narrative, setting a case for war.
• 23:19
  So, for example, Iranian people, look what's happened to your
• 23:22
  economy, look at the state of your country, look at where your
• 23:25
  position is regionally. You've lost your regional
• 23:27
  allies, you've lost Syria, you've lost your support,
• 23:30
  resistance support in the region.
• 23:31
  With the Axis, we now have a situation where you can either
• 23:36
  overthrow your government, come into power, we'll support you,
• 23:39
  we'll back you, or you can live under these circumstances and
• 23:43
  you can't feed your children. You know, sorry to interrupt.
• 23:47
  Yesterday I was watching Piers Morgan and they brought on this
• 23:51
  American, sorry, Iranian professor, Professor Mohammed
• 23:55
  Morandi. Morandi, yes.
• 23:57
  And you know, you know, you look at Piers Morgan, he.
• 24:02
  Hates. They hate each other.
• 24:04
  No, no, he hates Iran. Yeah, they hate each other.
• 24:07
  And, and you know what, Yeah, when you ask him and I've seen
• 24:11
  him on him mention it all, the whole thing about the hijab, the
• 24:18
  whole thing about not allowing, you know, woman to do certain
• 24:23
  things or all of them things that they have a problem with
• 24:26
  the woman, like freedom. Yeah, that stuff they want, they
• 24:31
  want Iran to be Westernised. If you know, if you remember
• 24:37
  Geolani when he first took over Surya, all of the reporters, do
• 24:45
  you know what they were asking him?
• 24:47
  Dude are you going to make sure that the woman have to wear
• 24:50
  hijab? Yeah, I remember.
• 24:51
  This I say what's? Wrong with you guys.
• 24:53
  That was in the 1st. What did you want them to?
• 24:55
  Yeah. And it like does, does, does.
• 24:57
  Do you want all the women to be naked?
• 24:58
  What's going on? Yeah, that.
• 25:01
  Why is that such an issue for you?
• 25:03
  In Islam, a woman wears hijab. She's obliged you colours.
• 25:09
  That's what it is like. What more do you want?
• 25:11
  They want to push. Push democracy.
• 25:14
  You might have you. I don't want your worldview.
• 25:17
  Yeah. You're doing good, America.
• 25:19
  Good for you. No, the I do think by the way,
• 25:27
  any, any Western professor or academic that's smart and really
• 25:33
  has understood the different civilizations and empires in
• 25:36
  history, they would know that what America's doing now is
• 25:41
  overstretching itself. Spain was a great empire, one of
• 25:45
  the richest in history. It overstretched itself.
• 25:48
  War, war, war, war. They couldn't keep up anymore.
• 25:51
  It went same thing with the Ottomans.
• 25:54
  Overstretched itself, overstretched itself, and it
• 25:56
  weakened itself. When you get weakened, you're
• 25:58
  going to get eaten by the other empires or civilizations or
• 26:02
  whatever. Same thing with America.
• 26:06
  What Donald Trump is doing is actually accelerating the the
• 26:10
  downfall of America, but they just don't.
• 26:13
  I don't, I don't know why. No, no, like nationalists that's
• 26:17
  studied history is saying this to them.
• 26:20
  It's a stupid move. Venezuela.
• 26:22
  Like, bro, I thought I was watching a Hollywood movie.
• 26:25
  I see a report today in Venezuela.
• 26:27
  Do you know what I was saying? One of the, I think gods of the
• 26:33
  president or I don't know, ex president of Venezuela.
• 26:36
  Yeah, he was saying. They, they did something to us.
• 26:42
  Our blood started coming out of our noses.
• 26:45
  We collapsed on the floor. We couldn't do anything.
• 26:50
  Our radar systems, everything just stopped.
• 26:52
  Everything was our electrical stuff.
• 26:55
  Everything. Stopped.
• 26:56
  Yeah. These guys have like, it's
• 26:58
  crazy. Like you think it's a Hollywood
• 27:00
  movie. Honestly, it's nuts.
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  And now back to the episode. Yeah, man, yeah.
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  It's a crazy world, daddy. I'm, I'm, when you look at the
• 27:48
  world today, you would never, ever realise and you would see
• 27:51
  world leaders or governments acting the way they do.
• 27:55
  And if I just come back to Iran, for example, I, I really believe
• 28:01
  they've, they've sacrificed a lot for a lot of causes.
• 28:04
  One, for example, Philistine, because if we're, if we're
• 28:07
  honest, Iran can simply, for example, say, you know what,
• 28:11
  let's shake hands with Trump. Let's become more westernized.
• 28:15
  Let's take this democracy that the US is trying to install in
• 28:19
  every country. In fact, you know what?
• 28:20
  Let's become friends and neighbors with Israel, for
• 28:24
  example, and they can live the best life.
• 28:27
  They can have the best infrastructure.
• 28:29
  They can have the best economy. They can have.
• 28:31
  They can have the best of the best that's being sold to the
• 28:34
  world by the West, right? But they choose not to.
• 28:37
  But that means, number one, I think there is some values and
• 28:39
  principles they stand for. And at the same time, I don't
• 28:43
  think it's just they choose to know something drives them
• 28:46
  towards that. Nothing that comes back to the
• 28:48
  spirituality and it being, for example, the Islamic Republic of
• 28:52
  Iran and then just come out of nowhere, people actually devoted
• 28:55
  to have an Islamic Republic. If you go all the way back, the
• 28:59
  majority of the people in Iran chose to have an Islam Islamic
• 29:01
  Republic of Iran. Overthrew the but.
• 29:04
  What we see now, for example, this whole new things of women
• 29:07
  like freedom, this whole thing of OK, your economy situation is
• 29:12
  in such a way because this Iran is using its money to fund
• 29:16
  Palestine, for example, known as the sanctions.
• 29:19
  If we go back to everything, everything leads back to either
• 29:21
  the US sanctions or the hands of Israel.
• 29:24
  Israel How much more can they take?
• 29:29
  As. As as it is because you
• 29:30
  mentioned, for example, people worry about feeding their
• 29:33
  families. People worry about, for example,
• 29:34
  making sure their children are able to live an honourable life.
• 29:38
  For example, even their wives that give them an honourable
• 29:41
  life. Yeah, there is this worry, but
• 29:43
  they also have the other feeling, which is, for example,
• 29:46
  sacrifice Al jar to Madar like these sort of things.
• 29:50
  Like what drives them to do this?
• 29:52
  I look today, over 40 years, I don't think anyone can do that.
• 29:56
  And on top of all of that, during all that time, you can
• 29:59
  still have the highest level of education, you can still have
• 30:02
  functioning infrastructure, you can have so many things.
• 30:05
  You know what it is? I'll tell.
• 30:06
  You what it is, Yeah, I'll tell you what it is that the issue
• 30:08
  which the line which we, we have to understand with Iran is that
• 30:14
  firstly with like you said about education, literacy rate for for
• 30:18
  women is higher than men than Iran, 98.9% of women, 98.3% of
• 30:24
  men are literate. The thing about Iran is they
• 30:28
  want female engineers, but they want female engineers who wear
• 30:32
  the hijab. Do you understand?
• 30:35
  And that line, well, either that that line, when it's
• 30:38
  exacerbated, I'm stood on a broader like theological scale
• 30:42
  for how the country's run, it either triggers and antagonises
• 30:46
  the people who ideologically disagree with Ilan's running
• 30:49
  infrastructure or people side with it, right?
• 30:53
  Because this is not, for example, like when the West
• 30:55
  looks at Ilan and they see mandatory hijab and veils and
• 30:59
  covering and so on and so forth and morality police and so on.
• 31:03
  They see it as a Taliban esque informative government, right?
• 31:08
  It doesn't work like that. The difference is that in these
• 31:11
  countries, they don't, for example, endorse the education
• 31:17
  of women, the publicity of women to be news anchors and to be,
• 31:21
  you know, space engineers and so on and so forth.
• 31:24
  Iran and Iran they do. The difference is that they want
• 31:28
  these sisters to observe hijab, hijab Italian, like you said, as
• 31:33
  an obligation towards their Islamic duties.
• 31:35
  Now, that's such an enigma when you look at it on a global
• 31:38
  scale, because there's no country as big as Iran, as
• 31:41
  populated as Iran, as diverse, as educated and as woke.
• 31:45
  In many senses, Iranian people are quite woke.
• 31:48
  Do you know what I mean? In the sense of they, they have
• 31:50
  a real world understanding, like you said.
• 31:52
  How does a country who's for 47 years since the revolution has
• 31:56
  survived despite being pulled to its knees on so many occasions
• 32:00
  the year after the revolution, engaging in an 8 year war with
• 32:02
  Saddam. And then since then being put
• 32:05
  under such scrutiny from the global stage, from the
• 32:08
  international community. Whether it's human rights,
• 32:10
  whether it's the sanctions, whether it's political pressures
• 32:13
  from neighbors, whether it's internal riots and bombings and
• 32:19
  car bombs and assassination, all sorts of bits and pieces which
• 32:21
  have happened for decades and decades.
• 32:24
  How they kept going there is a determination there.
• 32:27
  What I want to understand is now today with all of this context,
• 32:31
  me as a Shia, I'm living in the West.
• 32:33
  I have no affiliate affinity or affiliation to Iran, not
• 32:37
  Iranian, don't have family there, have friends there, so on
• 32:40
  so forth. We know people doesn't mean we
• 32:42
  agree or disagree. OK, but I as a, as a Muslim or
• 32:46
  just as a human being living in the West, I can't imagine a
• 32:49
  world where, for example, there's a telecommunications
• 32:52
  blackout where the Internet shut off and you know, people can't
• 32:56
  reach one another. There is the perspective that
• 33:00
  and, and of course the reasoning that this was done because you
• 33:04
  can then spot foreign entities or foreign networks which are,
• 33:08
  which are live. And then you can spot, for
• 33:09
  example, any risks, anyone who's who's receiving like for
• 33:14
  example, Starlink or whatever it might be.
• 33:16
  But at the same time, there's also scrutiny that people should
• 33:18
  be able to communicate with their loved ones.
• 33:20
  You know, how does someone approach that kind of
• 33:22
  information living overseas when they see?
• 33:26
  Because when we saw in Gaza the blackout which happened, you
• 33:30
  know, the thought process for many people is different.
• 33:34
  How do we approach that when we look at it from here?
• 33:38
  We got to look at things for the roots, like what's the, the
• 33:42
  difference between what's happening in Iran and what's
• 33:45
  happening in Gaza? What was happening in Gaza,
• 33:49
  shall we say? Not that it stopped, but as in
• 33:54
  quote, UN quote, the war has stopped, right?
• 33:58
  Is that in Gaza? The, the roots of it is what is
• 34:04
  that? This is Palestinian land.
• 34:06
  Israel shouldn't exist. Like this is something new,
• 34:12
  right? When it comes to Iran, the roots
• 34:15
  of it is you have a superpower in the world, America, and then
• 34:22
  you have its little pet in the Middle East called Israel that
• 34:27
  are trying to destroy this government.
• 34:30
  And so I'll ask you when you are getting all of this information.
• 34:37
  So the rioters and there's, there's actual evidence for it.
• 34:40
  They are receiving information, they are receiving messages from
• 34:45
  the what's it called, the Mossad and so on instructions.
• 34:49
  And, and by the way, Israelis reporters are clearly saying it,
• 34:56
  our Mossad agents are on the ground.
• 34:58
  I think even Trump said it as well.
• 35:00
  They're on the ground. Today I saw on Channel 14, which
• 35:03
  is an Israeli news channel, they had someone there who speaks on
• 35:06
  behalf of the government and he said it clearly.
• 35:08
  And when he translate the tweet that they were quoting him, what
• 35:11
  he was saying on that on the anchor segment, he was like,
• 35:14
  we're providing them weapons and they're openly admitting that
• 35:18
  they have the anchor. Like, I'll tell you something
• 35:22
  and and I want all the Shahis that might watch this.
• 35:25
  I want you to kind of think with me.
• 35:28
  Look, I'm a human being and I'm sitting here right in front of
• 35:31
  you and I'm not talking to the Shahis that don't have any brain
• 35:37
  cells. By the way, just as a quick
• 35:40
  note, you know what one of them did?
• 35:42
  The guy that I grabbed off the fence, So when I grabbed them
• 35:46
  off, I threw them off or whatever it was.
• 35:50
  I swear to you guys like this. To me, I was like, bro, what's
• 35:54
  wrong with this guy? They were all weirdos.
• 35:57
  Anyway, to the Shahies, I tell you this.
• 36:00
  Look, I'm a human being, and no human being wants to see other
• 36:07
  human beings die. If they're good people, I don't
• 36:10
  come. I've never been raised where I'm
• 36:13
  happy to see innocent people being killed.
• 36:17
  But when I'm looking at the situation, I am seeing
• 36:23
  protesters that became rioters. Those rioters are Islamophobes.
• 36:30
  They are insulting the Prophet, they are insulting Islam, they
• 36:35
  are insulting the Quran. They are.
• 36:37
  I've seen them insult, say, the Zahra, Alayhi, Salaam, Wahuddha
• 36:40
  Billah, Imam Ali and Emma, burning buildings down, burning
• 36:47
  mosques, burning, you know, shrines down, throwing, what's
• 36:53
  it, petrol bombs at children and so on.
• 36:57
  When I'm seeing that and I'm looking at the government, I'm
• 37:01
  like, So what do you expect the government to do?
• 37:04
  I'm seeing like Iranians on Internet crying like, oh, what's
• 37:10
  happening on in Iran? What do you expect?
• 37:13
  I mean, how do how do you what do you want the government to
• 37:16
  do? Give you flowers?
• 37:18
  Ha Salaam habibi. How are you?
• 37:20
  John Azizam for Saint John Karma sabzi the AL Hey, there's a
• 37:25
  flower. Oh, you burn a mosque.
• 37:26
  How you got heavy? There's $100.
• 37:28
  What do you want them to do? Mukathy by?
• 37:31
  Let's let's be honest, it's clear that Israel is behind it
• 37:37
  and America's behind it. And the second thing is you
• 37:40
  Shahies now holding the Israeli flags, you're done, you're
• 37:45
  finished, it's done. And you made it a religious war.
• 37:49
  You made it a religious war coming to the Islamic centre of
• 37:54
  England. Yeah.
• 37:56
  Or not even just that. What you're doing, the insulting
• 37:59
  of the prophet, the Islam and so on.
• 38:02
  And then now they're joining up with who?
• 38:04
  Tel Aviv, Tommy. Tommy Robertson.
• 38:06
  Hey. Alyssa Adna recently.
• 38:09
  Nigel Farage. Yeah, so it's all the same
• 38:13
  group. What I'm trying to say is, is,
• 38:16
  and then you got the quote, UN quote, the Prince of Iran, the
• 38:22
  son of the Shah, he's telling Trump to bomb Iran.
• 38:26
  That's mad. What last man?
• 38:28
  Yeah, and he, I don't know where you guys want to go with it, but
• 38:32
  it's like I said, and I said it in my speech, no matter what you
• 38:38
  do, we will always be victorious.
• 38:43
  Because if you kill us, then we are martyrs.
• 38:48
  And if you don't kill us, we will fight to the last breath.
• 38:53
  We are the sons of Karbala, we are the sons of Abu Fabal Abbas,
• 38:58
  we are the sons of Ali Al Akbar, Imam al Hussain.
• 39:02
  We just don't lose losing there. There isn't something that could
• 39:07
  happen to us that will allow us to lose.
• 39:10
  You kill us, we were victorious. You don't kill us, we'll fight
• 39:14
  until the end. We will not stop.
• 39:19
  You want to be able to coexist? I'm talking here, even the UK.
• 39:26
  Let's have a dialogue. While I'm willing to debate you
• 39:28
  guys, let's debate. I'm willing any of the Shahis to
• 39:31
  come forward, message me, I'll debate them.
• 39:35
  I honestly would. And then there's another thing
• 39:38
  as well I want to talk about is I was taken back and I was
• 39:47
  Hamdallah. I was very happy.
• 39:48
  Mashallah. Like a lot of brothers stand up,
• 39:51
  but I want to remind the brothers that didn't turn up and
• 39:55
  the brothers that couldn't turn up.
• 39:58
  The ones that couldn't, that's a different story.
• 40:01
  People happen like Brother Ahmad, and they say it.
• 40:03
  They had things, but they sent their message.
• 40:05
  They were like, listen, we're with you, our Dazs are with you.
• 40:08
  But the people that didn't turn up or the people that are
• 40:13
  thinking about, Yeah, but my business.
• 40:16
  Yeah, but you know, I want to fly to this country or that
• 40:19
  country, man up. It's a this is, this is when
• 40:24
  manhood is is shown. It's for you to sacrifice.
• 40:27
  I've heard for you to be able to sacrifice, Yani.
• 40:30
  When we look at Imam Ali, Ali Salaam, when we look at the
• 40:34
  biography of the Emma, when we look at the biography of the
• 40:38
  Prophet, it's all about sacrifice.
• 40:41
  Yani. Some, some people want to talk
• 40:43
  about, no, I can't do this because it's going to affect my
• 40:49
  social media or I don't want to put my face or I don't want to
• 40:52
  do this. Listen, I understand everyone's
• 40:58
  got businesses and important things in their life.
• 41:01
  Do you think I want to be out there, Butler?
• 41:05
  But we have to sacrifice for things that are important.
• 41:08
  If Iran falls, and I'm talking about the government, remember
• 41:13
  who is leading the riots? Who is leading the attacks on
• 41:18
  the government? It's not people that are unhappy
• 41:21
  with the government and that's it.
• 41:23
  No, it's people that hate Islam, which means they are against the
• 41:28
  government. There's a difference.
• 41:31
  I think one thing I want to ask is specifically on this point
• 41:34
  when you talk about this year in the West, this is where we
• 41:36
  wanted to take the discussion now kind of the the implications
• 41:40
  on us as a community and as people living in, in, in, in the
• 41:43
  Western world, You know, you'll always, you'll always have
• 41:48
  difference of opinion. So you'll have those who say
• 41:51
  it's not feasible for me to help put my livelihood at risk.
• 41:54
  Like you said, my family, my, my job, so on and so forth.
• 41:59
  But what I'm more concerned about or what I'm more curious
• 42:02
  about, you said something in your video.
• 42:04
  So it doesn't matter whether you're Shirazi, you're reliety,
• 42:07
  you're a Sistani guy or whatever it is, you come together, you
• 42:11
  defend your centres. I want to ask you before the
• 42:15
  podcast, a friend said to me, he said, but I've grown up in a
• 42:19
  community or I've grown up around people and friends and
• 42:23
  their their families have said, well, A, they hadn't done
• 42:28
  anything for us, Why should we do anything for them?
• 42:32
  And B, well, prior to the revolution, there's never been
• 42:36
  an attack on the Houser. Before 79, there was never any
• 42:40
  attack on the Houser in Qom. So why should we be concerned
• 42:44
  about a potential of an attack on the Houser should the Islamic
• 42:47
  government fall? I want to ask you what you think
• 42:49
  about those two things. That's a good point.
• 42:51
  So I, I, I had a friend of mine that said the same thing, that,
• 42:55
  look, the Shah didn't do anything to the Hells or
• 42:57
  anything like that. And it's true to a certain
• 43:00
  degree, But remember, the Shah is different to what we're
• 43:06
  seeing with these people. This is the main point.
• 43:10
  Sorry for so many reasons. The Shah didn't show that he had
• 43:14
  animosity towards Islam. Yeah.
• 43:16
  These ones do. He just showed he's a bit, he's
• 43:19
  a liberal and and so on, right? He didn't show that he hated
• 43:23
  Islam. No, his his wife used to go to
• 43:27
  Ziara Najaf like it's a known thing.
• 43:29
  Yeah, I'm going. I'm basing it upon what I'm
• 43:33
  seeing now. Was he a tyrant and so on.
• 43:36
  That's another discussion. But generally speaking,
• 43:39
  generally speaking, there, there isn't nothing to me suggested
• 43:45
  that he hated Islam. He was a self-proclaimed Muslim.
• 43:48
  Sorry Habir, he was self-proclaimed Muslim.
• 43:51
  Who's to publicly sin? It was a known thing.
• 43:53
  For example, the US president would go to Iran on New Year's
• 43:57
  Eve every year and drink wine with the Shah.
• 44:00
  It's a known thing. Or, for example, that the Shah
• 44:03
  himself would assume that the scholars in Qom were just like
• 44:09
  monks who lived in their own Zod and they never engaged in
• 44:13
  anything. And they want to be taken
• 44:14
  seriously. Yeah, I'll tell you.
• 44:15
  Look at these old guys. They're living in their robes.
• 44:18
  They have no money. Little did they know, of course,
• 44:20
  that the root of the, the, the revolution had come from those
• 44:24
  circles. So I think now and also not to
• 44:26
  mention the foreign actors 70 years ago talking about from
• 44:30
  1952 with Mossadegh and when that started, the CIA operation,
• 44:34
  when, when that started then compared to where we are now 74
• 44:38
  years later, it's very different world we're living in.
• 44:41
  You know what I mean? If you're talking about the
• 44:43
  state of Israel or the entity of Israel and what they are now
• 44:46
  versus what what they were then, as you know, a newly formed
• 44:52
  land, in some sense, it's not the same dynamics.
• 44:57
  So I think for those who say, oh, well, we can expect nothing
• 45:00
  would happen to the Houser should anything bro, after the
• 45:04
  after 47 years of the revolution, they've seen what
• 45:07
  the Houser has produced and they've seen what ideologies
• 45:10
  come out. I.
• 45:11
  Hate for the religion has increased.
• 45:13
  Of course, of course. And by the way there.
• 45:15
  There's ideological. Yeah, and, and there's a point
• 45:18
  as well to mention is I've seen people say that.
• 45:21
  Oh look, they hate Islam because of the government I mean.
• 45:29
  Well, they hate hijab because of the government.
• 45:31
  I hear that a lot. I hear.
• 45:32
  That, yeah, I mean, I mean in the time of Imam Ali, Ali
• 45:36
  Salaam, when we look at when he became the Khalifa, they, the
• 45:42
  the people in his time were already practising things based
• 45:46
  upon the Sunnah of the Sheikhane.
• 45:51
  And even even with them, when it came to Imam Ali establishing
• 45:58
  his Falafa, remember he, he went through war number one German,
• 46:02
  Safin Nahrawan. By the time he got to Nahrawan,
• 46:06
  Nahrawan is who they came from, his army.
• 46:11
  The Qawwalis came from his army, Yeah.
• 46:12
  Yeah. Yeah, no, we don't want to fight
• 46:14
  anymore. I remember in a book called
• 46:17
  Kitab Al Khawat, it's one of the classical books of of war,
• 46:25
  sorry, one of the classical books of Mahazi, or should we
• 46:30
  say books on history or Mahazi? Mahazi usually a term used for
• 46:35
  the prophet. And in this book he mentions
• 46:41
  where and the whole the whole book is is is around the whole
• 46:49
  event of Safin, the battle of Safin.
• 46:52
  And they were saying no, I think, I think with the report,
• 46:56
  my memory says right. He says, no, we're cold.
• 46:59
  We don't want to fight anymore. I've.
• 47:02
  Seen that? These are the type of things
• 47:04
  that was happening. They were growing tired.
• 47:07
  They were like, no, we want to go to Mahalia.
• 47:10
  You know, Mahalia has good food. All of these things.
• 47:14
  It happens all the time. Yeah, people like honestly, by
• 47:19
  the way, I think even al Shia put put aside the Shahis al Shia
• 47:23
  when Imam al Mahdi reappears, I don't know what, because most of
• 47:29
  us don't read books of Hadith. You're going to be shocked or
• 47:33
  some of the, you know, some of the Hakam on certain matters,
• 47:41
  like when you're, when you're, when people are going to see,
• 47:43
  for example, capital punishment and so on.
• 47:46
  People are going to be shocked. People are not used to, we've
• 47:50
  been so liberalised, we've been so Westernised.
• 47:53
  It's unbelievable. And this is the same thing in
• 47:57
  Iran, in Iran, by the way, you know, you see them, they, they,
• 48:00
  they, they just want to be American, Habibi.
• 48:04
  Well, I told my cousins back home, I'm like, I'm, they, they
• 48:07
  think we're living a good life. I'm like, Habibi, at least where
• 48:11
  you are, you know what a man is or what a woman is Here.
• 48:14
  They're still having discussions what a man is and what a woman
• 48:17
  is. They, he, she, who he some like
• 48:23
  it's, it's a different world. And so Iran as a society,
• 48:29
  believe me, majority of them are not actually against the
• 48:33
  government. And if the if America and so on
• 48:38
  take over, they're not, I'm not telling you they're going to go
• 48:40
  and destroy Meshed or the shrines.
• 48:44
  But based upon what we're seeing and who's leading this
• 48:50
  revolution, it's Islamophobes. Let's just say how it is.
• 48:56
  It's Islamophobes. They hate Islam, hate it.
• 49:03
  You know, you mentioned about lessons from the holy Imam
• 49:06
  Alayhi Salaam. I think at a time like this is
• 49:08
  so important to understand what position to play.
• 49:11
  We talk said I, I said Ali and I always talk about how to know
• 49:16
  what to enact at which time, how to gain that level of matalafa
• 49:21
  where you understand our traditions to such a degree
• 49:24
  where you start to personify them like the energy and the the
• 49:30
  clock of the Imams Aliyah Musalaam and how they carried
• 49:33
  themselves at certain times when they were vocal and when they
• 49:36
  were less so, and how to how to enact the right lessons at the
• 49:41
  right times, if that makes sense.
• 49:43
  Of course, all lessons of that in my label, Salaam and the Holy
• 49:46
  Prophet Muhammad, of course, are lessons to be learned from.
• 49:51
  Now, as I mentioned earlier, we're of course at the time of
• 49:54
  the shihadis of our 7th Holy Imam, Ali Salaam said, I know
• 49:59
  that this is something like you mentioned to me the other day.
• 50:02
  A lot of us don't know enough about the Holy Imam.
• 50:05
  And one thing we do know, and that's one thing we do always
• 50:09
  reflect on, is that our 7th Holy Imam was unique in his struggle
• 50:14
  compared to the rest of the Imams.
• 50:17
  And what he went through was so, so difficult that he had to have
• 50:22
  that personal strength that you're talking about.
• 50:25
  So when you're offered the comfort of shelter and warmth
• 50:28
  and food, will you say no to that to stay on the path of
• 50:33
  Surat al Mustaqeen? Because I'm sure the Imam was
• 50:35
  offered this. We have the Wyatt about the Imam
• 50:38
  being offered every worldly pleasure during his captivity
• 50:41
  that we can imagine during the 2421 years of his captivity that
• 50:47
  you know was possible to him. But he remained firm on the part
• 50:51
  of Darreid and he remained true to his message and to his to his
• 50:57
  his belief in Allah sponta Allah.
• 50:59
  He never wavered. Why do you think at times like
• 51:02
  this is so important to reflect on what we have from from
• 51:04
  mammoth Carter, but I saw. Also, so it's a very good
• 51:08
  question. You mentioned Ahmed and I, I, I
• 51:10
  think if you're going to ask me, I'm going to say straight up, I
• 51:13
  mean that's, that's the expectation that we should have
• 51:17
  a Shia. Like in any struggle we're in,
• 51:20
  in any situation we find ourself, firstly, we go back to,
• 51:24
  if we're struggling, we turn to Allah Azza Wajal and we come, we
• 51:27
  come across these hadiths that if there is a struggle, there is
• 51:30
  oppression. If there is things going on, if
• 51:32
  we can use our hands, we use it. If we can use our voice, we use
• 51:35
  it. And if we can't, it's all in the
• 51:36
  heart. And that's why Rasulullah
• 51:38
  Muhammad sallallallahu alaihi was telling him.
• 51:39
  But if we come to Imam Al Khavam Ali in Salaam, you mentioned he
• 51:43
  was in captivity at things. And something that strikes me is
• 51:46
  that he preferred to be in captivity because he used that
• 51:50
  time and opportunity to worship Allah, spano to Allah.
• 51:54
  And that makes you think, yeah, if if if prison became your
• 51:58
  mosque, I imagine he turns Halla decision into a a place where he
• 52:03
  can worship. Like how do you reach that
• 52:06
  stage? You have to be something I I've
• 52:08
  always mentioned on so much podcast.
• 52:09
  How did maitham become become maitham at Tamar?
• 52:12
  How did Amar become Amar al Yasir?
• 52:14
  It wasn't just because, OK, the Allah were born Muslim.
• 52:16
  We pray five times a day. No, they took their Deen
• 52:20
  seriously. They took what are Allah asked
• 52:23
  us to stick to seriously. They listened to the imams that
• 52:28
  there was that level where as a Shiite we call ourselves
• 52:31
  believers and Manian how because Imam Ali is Amir al Ammanian,
• 52:36
  for example, right And this is something on the link for a
• 52:39
  second. When we say belief is and when
• 52:41
  we talk about for example, Iran and this whole thing you
• 52:43
  mentioned, you have the friends who said the story and what not
• 52:46
  is Subhan Allah. Last week, literally last week,
• 52:50
  Ahmed had a discussion with someone who who told me clear
• 52:55
  cut would like no barrier, no filter.
• 53:01
  He was like what you why are you voicing support for when I did
• 53:04
  for example, things like that and they made me realise we're
• 53:09
  still in the stage where we still have our differences of
• 53:13
  things right. If Imam and Mehdi comes now, I'd
• 53:17
  Allah to Allah, Farid al Sharif, we may say he's not the Imam.
• 53:21
  From what point? Because we're still busy
• 53:24
  focusing on making individuals as our focal point in life.
• 53:27
  Everything comes back to. Why disunity, Everything comes
• 53:30
  back to He's not from my line. Everything comes back to and
• 53:34
  This is why we've reached the stage where we are today where I
• 53:36
  think we don't know what we're doing as a community, as Shia.
• 53:38
  Because everyone's made their own school, everyone's made
• 53:41
  their own cult. In many ways, everyone's made
• 53:44
  their own separation. I can't be friends with certain
• 53:47
  people. I can't talk about certain
• 53:49
  things were brushed in in particular ways.
• 53:52
  Well, if we come back to it, no Anekunda Shia, Anekunda Shia,
• 53:55
  Allah, Muslimin, Mulwalin to the and to the Prophet.
• 53:59
  And it's sad. It's sad that as a Shia, a non
• 54:04
  Shia, you can tell me you can't support your own in a situation
• 54:07
  like this. It's worrying.
• 54:09
  That is very worrying. I'll tell you something.
• 54:11
  There's a hadith found in Sunni books where it's from Imam
• 54:18
  Sajjad al Salaam. He says we used to teach the the
• 54:23
  Saraya and Mahazi. So in in short, the biography of
• 54:29
  the Prophet as we used to teach the Quran.
• 54:35
  The beautiful thing about the Sierra of the Prophet and the
• 54:39
  Imams, and when you study it is that for every situation you
• 54:48
  have an answer. Why?
• 54:51
  Because you've studied their lives now.
• 54:53
  Yeah. How did you deal with this
• 54:56
  political thing? How did you deal with this
• 54:58
  social thing? How did you deal with this
• 55:00
  family problem? How did you deal with people
• 55:03
  that are deviants? How did you deal with selfish
• 55:05
  people? How did you deal with rich
• 55:07
  people, poor people, woman, children, slaves, servants,
• 55:12
  maids, all of these things? And the beautiful thing about
• 55:18
  understanding their life is that it shows us this important
• 55:23
  principle that we all have to start understanding much better.
• 55:28
  Which is because I feel like there are one side of the
• 55:33
  community, just hard, hardcore politics.
• 55:40
  Then you have another side of the community, hardcore, just
• 55:45
  like Al Qaidi stuff. Then you have another side of
• 55:49
  the community, just Latham and FEMA.
• 55:53
  Then you have another side. It's just she has just a
• 55:58
  somewhat of a identity. This is born into it.
• 56:02
  Politics is religion and religion is politics.
• 56:10
  Why? What do I mean by that?
• 56:12
  Tell me the way that we navigate through these political
• 56:20
  situations and events that are taking place.
• 56:25
  It must be through the lens of Islam, the world view of Islam.
• 56:31
  It's like when you put your glasses on.
• 56:34
  That's how you view things through the lens of the Quran
• 56:37
  and the Sunnah by the understanding of Ali Beit Ali
• 56:41
  Hamous Sanam, That's how you viewed these political scenes.
• 56:46
  So when you say like your friend, don't worry, I've got
• 56:49
  friends like that, I spoil light and Fati.
• 56:54
  OK, First of all, like right now, this support has actually
• 56:58
  got nothing to do with light and Fati realistically.
• 57:02
  So if you look at Imam Sajjad in his dua Dua Ali Thor, who's he
• 57:09
  making dua for the army of Benny Umaya.
• 57:13
  Benny Umaya, yes, people, people, he's making the arful
• 57:20
  Benny Umaya. Why?
• 57:22
  Because because even of how bad Benny Umaya is, but at the at
• 57:32
  least if the Christians were came in and destroyed the
• 57:38
  Muslims completely took out all the Muslims, killed everyone,
• 57:44
  the Dean is gone. While when you have Benny
• 57:47
  Almaya, at least with with that government, everything in it is
• 57:53
  protected to a certain degree. Do you understand what I'm
• 57:57
  saying to you? Sure, they hated that, albeit
• 57:59
  Sahaya, not all of them, but they hated that albeit and they
• 58:04
  didn't like the Shiah of Ali. I'm Sahaya but the Shiah of Ali
• 58:08
  was living where? In the Muslim lands that were
• 58:11
  ruled by who? The Omeids.
• 58:14
  So there is a must have by the way.
• 58:16
  Well I'm not well with the Birla making the comparison of the
• 58:20
  Iranian government with Benny Almaya but I'm I'm just showing
• 58:22
  you I'm like Benny Almaya is so bad yet the imam is making doubt
• 58:26
  for them. So what about a government
• 58:29
  that's saying Allah, Allah, Allah, Muhammad and Rasool
• 58:32
  Allah, Ali and Wali Allah? What do you want me to do with
• 58:35
  that? And what will happen with all of
• 58:38
  the resistance in the world? The only country that's been
• 58:43
  firmed the way that it has been with the Palestine issue is
• 58:48
  Iran. Iran, as I remember, the Salafi
• 58:50
  scholar, Athwan Al Khanis, Oh God, the Kuwaiti scholar, what
• 58:55
  he says, well, he he says it. I see it the other day.
• 58:59
  He goes back in the day before the Iranian revolution is that
• 59:03
  we still live with Shias. Everything was cool, but when
• 59:09
  the revolution happened, the Shia now started to have what
• 59:16
  was I don't want to like misquote him.
• 59:18
  They became paraphrasing. They became proud.
• 59:20
  They. Became more like proud and, you
• 59:23
  know, they, they had more strength to them.
• 59:26
  On the Shia, yeah. On the Shia, yes.
• 59:29
  And then and then he goes, he goes, he doesn't like it.
• 59:33
  They don't like it. Who were they want?
• 59:36
  And I'm talking more especially the extremists from Alison now.
• 59:41
  They want their foot on top of your head, just like them.
• 59:45
  Shahi's want their foot on top of that, your head.
• 59:48
  This is this is not just about relate to Fakir.
• 59:52
  It's bigger than that. Yeah, it's bigger than that.
• 59:55
  Why would I not support this government?
• 1:00:00
  Is this government perfect? No.
• 1:00:03
  Have they done mistakes? Yes.
• 1:00:05
  OK Habibi, we only have 14 masoomin and the only government
• 1:00:11
  that was governed in a perfect way is the government of Rasul
• 1:00:16
  Allah, Imam Ali al Hassan and Imam al Mehdi.
• 1:00:26
  And so and what we say by that is, by the way, even in the time
• 1:00:30
  of Imam Ali, I can't remember the name of his ambassador right
• 1:00:34
  now. Imam Ali, does he govern with
• 1:00:39
  absolute justice, Yes or no? Yeah.
• 1:00:43
  His governor, I can't remember which governor he is right now.
• 1:00:46
  Yeah. And I'm just the from top of my
• 1:00:48
  head. He, he himself, he was doing
• 1:00:53
  things that was gone against what Imam Ali was saying.
• 1:00:56
  And Imam Ali, you know, sent him a very harsh letter or even to
• 1:01:01
  some extent, I think Imam Ali went to him or he came to Imam
• 1:01:04
  Ali. Imam Ali got him to come to him.
• 1:01:07
  So what am I trying to say from this point?
• 1:01:10
  Is that, OK, the government is not perfect.
• 1:01:15
  There are people that are bad in the government.
• 1:01:17
  OK, we get that. We all know that.
• 1:01:19
  That's fine. No government is perfect except
• 1:01:22
  the government or Imam had Judge Allah for the judge and the
• 1:01:26
  government of Rasulullah and Rasulullah when he sent Khalid
• 1:01:30
  bin bin al Waleed to Yemen. And then, yeah.
• 1:01:33
  And then our good friend Khalid bin Walid, he went and did what
• 1:01:38
  he did in in Yemen. You know, I don't know, maybe he
• 1:01:42
  got hungry and he was cutting up, but he was in Yemen and he
• 1:01:47
  did what he did. And then and the Prophet says I
• 1:01:50
  I just I disown what Khalid bin Walid did in Yemen.
• 1:01:58
  Carlos, that's it. You, you have an infallible that
• 1:02:02
  is dealing or controlling or trying to control fallible
• 1:02:08
  people. The government of Iran.
• 1:02:11
  I'm not saying say that it's coming out and now it's
• 1:02:13
  invaluable for someone that's they say it is there and there
• 1:02:19
  are people around him that will that are probably not good or no
• 1:02:24
  problem. That happens.
• 1:02:27
  You know how many how many times do we do we get stories about
• 1:02:31
  the Wukala, the representatives of the Inman as the Imam Kavan.
• 1:02:35
  We're talking about Imam Kavan. What happened after Imam Kavan,
• 1:02:38
  his companions, his representatives, his wukala,
• 1:02:41
  What did they do? What did they do?
• 1:02:44
  They established one of the biggest sects at that time, the
• 1:02:47
  Wukifer. There you go.
• 1:02:52
  We need to stop with this rhetoric.
• 1:02:56
  We need to stop with it, honestly.
• 1:02:58
  When the Iranian government was established, we had a Zen
• 1:03:04
  karama. Does that mean there was 100%
• 1:03:11
  justice? No.
• 1:03:14
  Does that mean there was no injustice?
• 1:03:17
  No. We're not saying that either,
• 1:03:19
  but we're saying at the core of it, at the core of it, they are
• 1:03:24
  people trying to establish the Sharia of Allah, trying to the
• 1:03:32
  merger, says Sistani. May Allah prolong his life.
• 1:03:37
  He's trying to derive for you the Akam of Alibait, trying to,
• 1:03:45
  that's what he could do. He gets a hadith and then he he
• 1:03:50
  he goes through all these different principles or so all
• 1:03:53
  whatever comes to a conclusion. This is the fatwa.
• 1:03:58
  Yeah. He's trying to give you the the
• 1:04:01
  verdict of Elid Bate by his understanding and his
• 1:04:04
  principles. That's what it is.
• 1:04:08
  And I think actually I need to start to really hold hands more
• 1:04:13
  and more. I feel on Sunday it was there.
• 1:04:15
  Voila, like the Shirazi boys were there, you know, you got
• 1:04:20
  the Sistani law, you got the, you know, I saw from so many
• 1:04:24
  different communities, they just come together.
• 1:04:27
  The Afghan, the Pakistani, the Indian, the, you know, the
• 1:04:31
  African, the Iraqi, the Iranian. It was amazing.
• 1:04:34
  It was beautiful to see. And that's how we should be
• 1:04:38
  moving forward, inshallah. That's one of the biggest things
• 1:04:41
  which we lack and I think which we and obviously I think the
• 1:04:45
  primary reason why we wanted to do this discussion was to try
• 1:04:48
  and instigate that need for Shia, Shia unity, which we've
• 1:04:53
  always been a massive advocate of.
• 1:04:55
  And it continues to be our, one of our primary goals, you know,
• 1:04:59
  with our forthcoming event, like make sure we grab your tickets.
• 1:05:04
  But with our 4th event, like you'll see we have people from
• 1:05:07
  different backgrounds. We invite people from different
• 1:05:09
  backgrounds. Last year when you came, you
• 1:05:11
  found this. Inshallah, you know, I hope you,
• 1:05:13
  you will agree. But that was one of the things
• 1:05:16
  perhaps you realise when you're on stage, like we tried to bring
• 1:05:19
  people from, from different ideological backgrounds, not out
• 1:05:22
  of naivety because many people might look at this, but like
• 1:05:26
  these guys are naive. They're putting this guy next to
• 1:05:28
  that guy, that guy next to this guy.
• 1:05:29
  What do they know? Like they do they not know that
• 1:05:32
  these guys disagree with each other on these things?
• 1:05:34
  We know, Baba, we know. But it's more of a case of we're
• 1:05:37
  trying to instigate and create and foster unity amongst the
• 1:05:41
  Shia, create people who can unite under the banner of Imam
• 1:05:44
  and Hajj Allah, Dalaf al Sharif, because ultimately that's what
• 1:05:47
  we need. You know, when you said like we,
• 1:05:50
  we, we sometimes get that, that, that feeling like, yeah, we're
• 1:05:53
  too divided. Like you said, your, your, your
• 1:05:56
  friend who, who said why are you supporting?
• 1:05:59
  Well, that's fucking like I think it doesn't that's, that's
• 1:06:04
  not even the discussion. We're not even talking about the
• 1:06:06
  legitimacy of theocracy within Shia political thought.
• 1:06:09
  We're not going near that. We're talking here about human
• 1:06:11
  life. We're talking about justice.
• 1:06:13
  We're talking about protecting our imams.
• 1:06:15
  We're talking about protecting human life.
• 1:06:17
  Like these are things which are much bigger, protecting places
• 1:06:20
  of worship, protecting the sanctity of community.
• 1:06:22
  Like these are things which are are important.
• 1:06:24
  Like, you know, the generations that come after us will rely on,
• 1:06:28
  will have relied on us to have kept stability.
• 1:06:32
  If we're not able to do that, then who's going to do it?
• 1:06:35
  You know, whether it's through a podcast, you've got a medium on
• 1:06:37
  social media, for example, yourself with your posts and
• 1:06:40
  also your presence. Marshall, you have a knack and
• 1:06:43
  an ability for galvanizing, organising, you know, activating
• 1:06:48
  support, which is what we need at times like this.
• 1:06:50
  Not everyone knows the mandem. You know, the mandem, bring the
• 1:06:53
  mandem. Do you know what I mean?
• 1:06:54
  At times like this, you need to, you need to tap into your
• 1:06:56
  networks for some of the sisters who are online and who can't
• 1:07:00
  turn up at the centres. Use your voices online, defend
• 1:07:03
  people who need defence, support people.
• 1:07:05
  You OK? You don't agree, for example, on
• 1:07:07
  theological matters on everything or political matters
• 1:07:10
  on everyone. Doesn't matter.
• 1:07:12
  Sisters that does the podcast. Sister read that she mentioned
• 1:07:17
  it as well. Yeah, I saw.
• 1:07:18
  She, she, she. She's been, she's been vocal on
• 1:07:21
  it. There's been there's been a lot
• 1:07:23
  of, there's been a lot of nice energy which has come out from
• 1:07:27
  the back of the last week, of course, negativity and like a
• 1:07:31
  lot of bad news around the world.
• 1:07:33
  But in terms of, like you said, bridging our internal
• 1:07:36
  communities together, this is what we need more of.
• 1:07:39
  You know, we need to know how to stand there when the when the
• 1:07:42
  whole of the imam happens, Charlotte soon and Charlotte in,
• 1:07:46
  in coming years. But when that time comes, we
• 1:07:50
  don't want to be on the side who are isolated or who feel
• 1:07:53
  remorseful, like I missed the I missed the chance, like I had a
• 1:07:57
  golden chance to learn Islam, read through the Wyatt, read the
• 1:08:01
  Quran, research, prepare for the imam actively doing interwar to
• 1:08:07
  get we like there's, there's there's something which we we we
• 1:08:10
  normalize, we get desensitized when we hit, we'll do the AL
• 1:08:14
  Faraj. It's like, OK, cool, standard
• 1:08:16
  end of the monthlist. You do the and then you shake
• 1:08:18
  hands and go like, bro, come on, man.
• 1:08:20
  Like, well, there's got to be one thing more we can do, like
• 1:08:23
  to incorporate the Imam's message in his mission, in our
• 1:08:26
  day-to-day lives, like in our global mission.
• 1:08:29
  When like, you know, there's guys I know, I know a guy who
• 1:08:31
  left his job Subhanallah, like he left his job like 3 or 4
• 1:08:36
  months ago, bro. The guy Mashallah was killing
• 1:08:39
  it, doing really well. Really, really, really high
• 1:08:42
  salary. Really, really, really top
• 1:08:44
  position in a huge, huge corporation.
• 1:08:47
  He left his job. He's like, yeah, I need to serve
• 1:08:49
  the Imam full time. He's at home, he's doing, he's
• 1:08:52
  working on a project, my love, bless him.
• 1:08:53
  Full time, full time. He's working for the Imam.
• 1:08:57
  And he had a call with him last week or two weeks ago and he's
• 1:09:00
  telling me, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, I'm doing this, I'm
• 1:09:01
  doing that. I can't share it or who he is.
• 1:09:04
  But you know, guys like that is who we need.
• 1:09:07
  We need to be more like. So, yeah.
• 1:09:10
  And you said to me before the podcast, you said everyone's got
• 1:09:12
  a position, everyone's got purpose.
• 1:09:14
  Some organizations and some individuals will be more
• 1:09:18
  reserved in a community building from from the back or out of
• 1:09:23
  sight and in not in the limelight.
• 1:09:26
  Good bro, do that. Build infrastructure, Build
• 1:09:29
  communities. About that, you see, we were
• 1:09:32
  talking about that, you're right.
• 1:09:34
  But there is, I always say. There's a responsibility.
• 1:09:37
  There's responsibilities, yeah, but then there is also
• 1:09:42
  obligation for people to understand that you have to be
• 1:09:49
  and you have to push yourself to get out of your comfort zone.
• 1:09:53
  I've. Sacrificed.
• 1:09:54
  Yeah, I agree. Like bro, like you think it's
• 1:09:57
  also big now come viral with the shy.
• 1:09:59
  Yeah, like at any time now, not only do I have the Salafis on my
• 1:10:04
  head, I've got the Shahis as well.
• 1:10:06
  Yeah, I mean, I'm. Saying it's a Walking Dead man
• 1:10:08
  in London now. No, in Charlotte, we pray for
• 1:10:10
  your safety, but you speak picture like you weigh up your
• 1:10:13
  options. If I do this now, when things
• 1:10:16
  get worse, where will I be? Or if I do this now, who's going
• 1:10:19
  to look after my children? Or if I do this now, who's going
• 1:10:22
  to support this organization or who's going to, you know, do you
• 1:10:25
  see what I mean? So it's of course, Allahu Aklam,
• 1:10:28
  like only Allah knows if now is the time or not.
• 1:10:32
  But the responsibility is that it's incumbent upon us to do
• 1:10:36
  everything possible at the time where it's possible.
• 1:10:38
  And that whether that means, for example, being part of the
• 1:10:41
  online discourse, well, that means, for example, showing
• 1:10:46
  standing in solidarity in front of a centre to defend its
• 1:10:48
  worshippers, Like these are things which need to be done,
• 1:10:51
  right? So I think it's a lot of food
• 1:10:53
  for thought for us. We're approaching Shahabaan.
• 1:10:55
  Shahabaaban, we don't know what's going to happen.
• 1:10:57
  And Charlotte, you know these next 2-3 months are peaceful and
• 1:11:01
  you know believers are protected.
• 1:11:04
  Just before the podcast started, we we were seeing reports that
• 1:11:08
  there's aircrafts, the airspace shut down.
• 1:11:12
  It looks like it's about to begin.
• 1:11:16
  Charlotte, we pray for the safety of the security of all
• 1:11:18
  Montmini and Montminat across the across the world and for
• 1:11:22
  their security. I think before we end Sid Ali,
• 1:11:26
  it would be nice if we can watch Hassan speech.
• 1:11:29
  We should. OK, I haven't seen the full
• 1:11:30
  version. It's going to be it's it was
• 1:11:33
  Mashallah. It was well received online.
• 1:11:37
  Great. Well.
• 1:11:48
  Lagging. Internet.
• 1:11:50
  Thanks for the. Wi-Fi Muj Amir al Mahdin, Imam
• 1:11:58
  al Mahdin Assad al Akbar Faruqihadi Ali Ali in the Holy
• 1:12:18
  Quran. Sadaq.
• 1:12:23
  Uma Ahadullah Ali from the believers there are men Rejal
• 1:12:32
  that stay truthful to the covenant of Allah or the promise
• 1:12:36
  to Allah. You brothers is today's a
• 1:12:40
  Sunday. You all turned up.
• 1:12:43
  You could have been comfortable in your nice heated house, but
• 1:12:46
  you decided to be here to show face, to show these thugs that
• 1:12:51
  they cannot and they will not enter our massages.
• 1:12:56
  They cannot do that. But there is there is another
• 1:13:00
  important point to mention, which is we're not here to make
• 1:13:04
  it. A.
• 1:13:04
  Difficult time for the police. We are Shia, which means we have
• 1:13:10
  to act accordingly. We are not thugs.
• 1:13:14
  We are not violent. We just stop you there.
• 1:13:20
  We are not them. Yeah, that that that's a really
• 1:13:23
  important point. You know, You know, when you put
• 1:13:26
  yourself out there as a Shia, and I say this to all brothers
• 1:13:29
  and sisters, you know, you get a lot of brothers and sisters.
• 1:13:32
  They put 313 in the bio and so on, no problem.
• 1:13:35
  But when you do that, act accordingly.
• 1:13:38
  When you do that. Don't like don't like reels or
• 1:13:42
  videos of people that have had our music, don't like pictures
• 1:13:47
  that are inappropriate. Don't like videos where things
• 1:13:52
  are in the video or the content of the video is going against
• 1:13:56
  the Sharia. We are Shia.
• 1:13:59
  We have to show the beauty of Tishaya through our actions.
• 1:14:04
  We have to be the mirror of there in Malaya masala.
• 1:14:08
  That's what Tishaya is. And that is really important
• 1:14:12
  because I, I knew the Shahis are going to watch it.
• 1:14:16
  I knew that I, I see some, you know, journalists and so on
• 1:14:20
  taking videos. So it was important for them to
• 1:14:23
  know we're not here. We're not thugs.
• 1:14:25
  You know, maybe some of the young brothers there acted a bit
• 1:14:29
  out of line and so on. But we are not thugs.
• 1:14:31
  We're not here to be violent. We, we are here to protect.
• 1:14:34
  This for us. Yeah.
• 1:14:36
  It's out of line like. That 100% we are here to protect
• 1:14:40
  this centre. Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  There are old people, woman, children that come to the
• 1:14:45
  centre. You will not attack it in any
• 1:14:49
  shape or form. But yeah, let's continue.
• 1:14:51
  Sorry, I just thought I'll add that point.
• 1:14:56
  We defend ourselves for sure, but we are not thugs.
• 1:15:02
  We have to stop this thuggery. It's unacceptable.
• 1:15:07
  We are Shia and we need to prove it to the world.
• 1:15:11
  No matter what, whatever happens in whatever country, every
• 1:15:17
  community, every shiery around the world, I don't care what
• 1:15:20
  magic you follow. I don't care what scholar you
• 1:15:23
  follow. We are one under the when I of
• 1:15:26
  Emir and Mukmanin Molan Mohadin Ali bin Abiyad Ali Ali Muhammad
• 1:15:31
  Ali Muhammad and to those thugs we tell them we are not violent
• 1:15:43
  but we are the sons of Rasul Allah Ali bin Abidali al Hassani
• 1:15:50
  1 Hussein the sahab of Rasul Allah that stayed loyal to the
• 1:15:55
  Messenger of Allah. We are the sons of Al Hassan bin
• 1:15:59
  Ali, Al Hussein bin Ali Ali bin Al Hussein, Muhammad bin Ali,
• 1:16:05
  Jafar bin Muhammad, Musa bin Jafar Ali bin Musa Muhammad bin
• 1:16:10
  Ali, Ali bin Muhammad and then Hassan bin Ali and Imam and Ajad
• 1:16:18
  Allah Farah Jahu Sharif. This is who we are.
• 1:16:22
  We are the sons of Karbala. We are the sons of Imam is
• 1:16:27
  Sajad, where he stood against the tyrant and he said.
• 1:16:37
  I truly believe one of the greatest lines that has ever
• 1:16:45
  been said by any of the Infallibles and they are all
• 1:16:51
  nor, but one of the greatest lines that has ever been said by
• 1:16:57
  the Infallibles is this line. You know we're talking about
• 1:17:09
  Imam al Kavam, right? It's mentioned in some of the
• 1:17:14
  reports. One of his companions, he says
• 1:17:19
  to him, my Imam, our chests have become tight.
• 1:17:26
  When is the Farage, when is the relief?
• 1:17:30
  We want you back, say EDI wama olai, the imam says meet me on
• 1:17:38
  Friday on the on the bridge of Baghdad.
• 1:17:43
  And then they realise that the body that's being being walked
• 1:17:49
  through this bridge is Imam al Kabul.
• 1:17:54
  The Imam is basically saying the Faraj is death, al patlulana ada
• 1:18:03
  or karamatunaminallah sharda. It's a honour.
• 1:18:07
  It's our Karama, it's our Isa that we love martyrdom.
• 1:18:14
  We love martyrdom and we see death as something normal,
• 1:18:19
  normal. That's the believer.
• 1:18:22
  That's what the Shia is like. And that's why it's so important
• 1:18:27
  to remember this. And just in case, you know, some
• 1:18:31
  of the non-muslim viewers are thinking, oh, you know, what's
• 1:18:33
  this guy talking about? No, Shahada martyrdom can be a
• 1:18:37
  old woman is walking across the road and then a car is about to
• 1:18:42
  hit her and then you push her and then the hit car hits you.
• 1:18:45
  You are a martyrdom. So Shahada is not just in the
• 1:18:48
  battlefield it. Can be on.
• 1:18:49
  Yeah, in many, so many different.
• 1:18:51
  In hospital, but. Yeah.
• 1:18:53
  So we we are talking about the shahada, but we have to actively
• 1:18:59
  pursue it. Yeah, Shahada doesn't come.
• 1:19:01
  Shahada's. Honor the station of how you're
• 1:19:04
  receiving. Shahada's are honor.
• 1:19:05
  Brothers, when you die. Shahada is not something that
• 1:19:08
  just Allah gives it to anyone. No no, you are a special person
• 1:19:13
  to get shahada and this is very important.
• 1:19:17
  Sorry I I thought. Death to us is the normal and
• 1:19:25
  mark of them is from Allah. This is what we live by.
• 1:19:30
  We are not here to be thugs. We are not here to be violent.
• 1:19:34
  Anyone that tries to enter our massaging, you will be faced
• 1:19:38
  with people like you've never faced before.
• 1:19:47
  Carbonara is with us every day. We share like to live in the
• 1:19:53
  places where it's uncomfortable. We like to live in places where
• 1:19:57
  there is a fight if they want to fight the truth.
• 1:20:01
  We are the Shia and we love being uncomfortable.
• 1:20:05
  So if you want to come and be uncomfortable, we know how to be
• 1:20:09
  uncomfortable. No one will enter up and massage
• 1:20:13
  it yesterday they. Came by the way. 2030 of them
• 1:20:16
  attacked me while there was children inside and I told them
• 1:20:20
  there are children inside while they were like we don't care and
• 1:20:25
  they started swearing. I said you don't care, let's
• 1:20:27
  fight. And it happened.
• 1:20:29
  Whatever happened, we are Shia, one of us is worth 1000 of them.
• 1:20:35
  Remember that we are the sons of Abu Fatah Abbas, the hero of
• 1:20:41
  Kabbalah. We have tongues like the Tango
• 1:20:44
  Saeed Azaya where she broke the empires with her tongue.
• 1:20:49
  Her tongue became Dufatan. Do not forget that but act
• 1:20:54
  accordingly. The police are here to help us
• 1:20:57
  and protect us. We must stand with them and be
• 1:21:02
  helpful towards them. We are not folks.
• 1:21:05
  If they want to come and attack you, come and we will show you
• 1:21:09
  the sons of Rasulullah. We will show you the sons of Ali
• 1:21:12
  bin Abidali. We will show you the sons of
• 1:21:15
  Imam and Hassan when Azhain come.
• 1:21:20
  Ma'am, why not come and have a dialogue with us?
• 1:21:23
  You disagree with the government, good for you.
• 1:21:26
  But this is a place of worship and no one will touch it.
• 1:21:31
  Please brothers act accordingly and Sandra Ala Muhammad Ali
• 1:21:36
  Muhammad. Wow, we're very proud of you.
• 1:21:42
  Amazing Shah Hassan. We're happy, we're happy to have
• 1:21:46
  you again here and we're more so honoured to see what what you're
• 1:21:49
  doing for the Ummah, for the community.
• 1:21:51
  And Allah knows. And I think those of us, we're
• 1:21:54
  honoured to be your friends, your brothers.
• 1:21:56
  We know you and we've spent a lot of time with you over the
• 1:21:58
  years. I think we know in your heart is
• 1:22:03
  pure intentions and the sincerity you wish for nothing
• 1:22:07
  but the best for the people around you, for the Omar and of
• 1:22:10
  course your your your actions are driven by God consciousness.
• 1:22:14
  May Allah reward you and bless you always.
• 1:22:16
  Your search for Haq, your desire to defend the truth, your desire
• 1:22:19
  to defend your brothers and sisters, the community around
• 1:22:22
  you. These are things which all of us
• 1:22:24
  should implement and be like so Allah inshallah.
• 1:22:27
  We pray to Allah to protect you, to preserve you, to give you
• 1:22:30
  more baraka, to give you more knowledge and opportunities to
• 1:22:33
  serve. Ilahi Amin ya rabala al Amin.
• 1:22:35
  And I have a feeling this is not going to be the last time we're
• 1:22:39
  on the podcast. I think I probably said that
• 1:22:42
  after the first one and now here we are three years later.
• 1:22:46
  But may Allah bless you, bro, happy.
• 1:22:48
  Thank you for coming. Bless you and.
• 1:22:51
  Always a pleasure boy as well. Happy, Michelle.
• 1:22:54
  Anything that I'd say, Ali. I'm just going to say, you know,
• 1:22:56
  just as a final point since we are ending, you mentioned
• 1:23:01
  comfortable, comfortable, comfortable and things like this
• 1:23:03
  and it reminded. Me of comfortable now I'm
• 1:23:06
  comfortable. We make you comfortable.
• 1:23:07
  Yeah, it. Makes you remember that the I
• 1:23:11
  where it says you want to achieve righteousness until you
• 1:23:13
  give away from that which you love.
• 1:23:15
  How fit is that? You can sacrifice in any single
• 1:23:19
  way. I think 100% very.
• 1:23:21
  I love that. I love that.
• 1:23:22
  Beautifully, said Hassan. May Allah protects you honestly.
• 1:23:25
  Have been saying. Like your family and your loved
• 1:23:28
  ones. And yeah, keep it going.
• 1:23:32
  I don't know if it's fright for me to say this, but I've seen
• 1:23:35
  your journey. We've been, we've known each
• 1:23:37
  other for very. I saw a picture of you guys
• 1:23:39
  yesterday when you were like 13. I'm.
• 1:23:41
  I'm very proud. I'm very.
• 1:23:42
  Proud of way. You're on life, Alec.
• 1:23:45
  I mean, it's not. All right, brothers, sisters,
• 1:23:47
  what a journey has been on this week.
• 1:23:50
  Look, we continue to pray for everyone around us.
• 1:23:52
  Inshallah. The safety and the security of
• 1:23:55
  what Manina? What Menard?
• 1:23:56
  Inshallah we will be back next week.
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