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#335 - Kiana Ledé · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's up.
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Speaker 2: I'm Keiana the Day. My album Grudges is coming out
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Speaker 2: on June sixteenth, and I'm here at the bluelet keV Podcast.
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Speaker 1: Boulet keV Show. Special guests in here from Phoenix, Arizona.
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Speaker 1: Keana the Day. Okay, hey, well, first of all, it's
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Speaker 1: nice to finally like get up with you. I've been
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Speaker 1: talking to Davey. I'm like, bro, you guys got this girl.
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Speaker 1: She's from my hometown. She's like the only person popping.
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Speaker 1: We got a talk.
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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to be here.
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Speaker 1: So what part of Phoenix are you from?
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Speaker 2: Seventh and Baseline?
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Speaker 1: Seventh, Oh, you're from the south side. I like, my
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Speaker 1: best friend lived on twenty fourth Street in Baseline when
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Speaker 1: I was a kid, So I spent my whole childhood
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Speaker 1: hanging out in the coult de Sac on the south side.
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Speaker 2: What a great place.
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Speaker 1: And then I think like, yeah, because like South Mountain
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Speaker 1: Community College is right there h seventh in Baseline. It's
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Speaker 1: changed right.
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, there's like a target.
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Speaker 1: And all kinds of shit over there.
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Speaker 2: There is a white man living in the house I
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Speaker 2: grew up in. I was so confused for.
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Speaker 1: People who don't know the South Side of Phoenix was
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Speaker 1: kind of like the African American American side of town. Yes, right, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: it's like a very you know.
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Speaker 2: Different, there's a different there. There was a Target, which
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Speaker 2: was like okay, cool with that, right, awesome, and then
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Speaker 2: now there was like a whole foods and shit. When
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Speaker 2: I went back, I was so confused.
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Speaker 1: And then everybody moved to Levine. They bought houses in Levine. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: although we could get a house for one hundred and
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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars in this suburb on the south side.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so crazy, but.
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Speaker 1: Still I love it. Yeah. So when did you make
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Speaker 1: the move to Los Angeles to pursue your hopes and dreams.
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Speaker 2: I was young. I was sixteen. I moved on my
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Speaker 2: own with my eighteen year old best friend.
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Speaker 1: Wow. So did you finish school?
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Speaker 2: No, I technically did so. Technically I had a GED okay,
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Speaker 2: and I graduated.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a GD and a diploma? Yes and special.
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Speaker 2: I was on the field for the and I was
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Speaker 2: on the field with my with the classmates from the
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Speaker 2: high school that I went to before I dropped out
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Speaker 2: when I was going to online school.
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Speaker 1: I've never met anybody with both. Yeah, it's pretty uh,
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's extra. Like I got the gend and
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Speaker 1: I got the diploma, because why not get both? The way,
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Speaker 1: what school did you go to? Were you like that
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Speaker 1: you walked out on the field on not the online
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Speaker 1: school because.
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Speaker 2: So I went to school in Albatuki two years all?
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Speaker 1: Why two kids? Mountain Point?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Where'd you go? Mountain Point? Yeah? Yeah, he's a data
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Speaker 1: girl who went to Mountain Point. I'm sorry she went
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Speaker 1: to it. Did you know anybody who went to eve
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Speaker 1: IT at the time you heard it? Eve It though?
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Speaker 1: East Valley Institute of Technology like kids, kids would go
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Speaker 1: there like for their electives. No, that's where I went
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Speaker 1: to school for radio broadcasting. It's in Mesa. It's on
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Speaker 1: Maine and uh home school, okay, Mesa?
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Speaker 2: So East Valley Children's Theater that I don't know what
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Speaker 2: that is.
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Speaker 1: That sounds amazing. Yeah, So what's it like being like,
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Speaker 1: you know, listen, there's some great talent in Arizona. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to shit on Arizona, but you're kind of
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Speaker 1: like the only like super fucking lid person from Phoenix
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Speaker 1: right now?
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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's so crazy, Like I feel, first of all,
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Speaker 2: I feel kind of like isolated and like almost like
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Speaker 2: I have to prove myself because people don't know nothing
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Speaker 2: about Phoenix, right, and they don't know anything about Arizona.
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Speaker 2: So everyone just assumes like everybody's white, everybody's Trump supporters,
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Speaker 2: which there is a lot of that. There is a
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Speaker 2: lot of that.
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Speaker 1: Also, Arizona went Biden last selection somehow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know there's also a lot of us.
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Speaker 1: So, yeah, it's a very like wild place because like
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Speaker 1: it is where everyone goes to retire. There is a
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Speaker 1: lot of old white folks. But it's also like where
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Speaker 1: it goes down. Everyone's strapped, the fucking cartels running shit.
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Speaker 1: It's a crazy place. Yeah, there's gangs, there's it's a
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Speaker 1: fucking Arizona's a wild place, for sure. It's just it's
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Speaker 1: kind of like Florida, Like Florida's a fucked up place,
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Speaker 1: but it's also a place rich people go to die.
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Speaker 2: No, it's literally the desert version of Florida.
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Speaker 1: It is the desert version of Florida. Yeah, for sure.
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like Mexico La is lacking a Philiberto's
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Speaker 1: style option of food? That's a twenty four hours a day.
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Speaker 2: That is so funny you said that because that was
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Speaker 2: like when I went to Arizona, that was like one
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Speaker 2: of the first places I wanted to go.
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Speaker 1: I just feel like, how are we in LA and
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Speaker 1: I can't get a burrito at any time of the night.
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Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you're in Arizona, you can go
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Speaker 1: to Phillies at six thirty in the morning, you can
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Speaker 1: go at three am, you can go out here? Does
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Speaker 1: taco trucks close it too? Like, I don't know where
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Speaker 1: else you're supposed to go to get food except McDonald's,
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Speaker 1: and we're in LA. The city is not supposed to sleep.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not trying to get McDonald's either.
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Speaker 1: Terrible twenty four hour of food options in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 1: Go to Christine's mom's house, Christine's mom's house in the
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Speaker 1: valley in the eight one A. Yeah, I'm like, you know,
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Speaker 1: Phillies is not the greatest Mexican food, but it's there.
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Speaker 1: It's there, It's it's dependable. You know, you can go
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Speaker 1: get a California Breed or anytime, but then after the
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Speaker 1: club you might be shit faced. Go to Phillies or
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Speaker 1: Roberto's or Romero's or Julio Berto's or any type of
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Speaker 1: birth dough. It's a lot of birth dows out there
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Speaker 1: there is, So how did you initially, like, okay, you're
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Speaker 1: sixteen years old, you decided to move to LA. Were
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Speaker 1: you already kind of like garnering up like a buzz
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Speaker 1: or did you just come out here like I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: fuck it. I'm gonna just leave home and go chase
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Speaker 1: this shit.
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Speaker 2: So it started off with my mom putting me in. Uh.
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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, I was saying, dancing, acting
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Speaker 2: my whole life, just like East Vallee Children's theater and
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Speaker 2: like Value theater and doing musical theater, doing pageants all
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Speaker 2: the shit.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: My mom really sacrificed a lot for me and my
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Speaker 2: stepdad was a lot for me to do that. So
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Speaker 2: really grateful for that. So I started with that since
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Speaker 2: I was like three years old, okay, and then was
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Speaker 2: put in by my mom a competition, a singing competition online.
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Speaker 1: Okay through Kids Bop. Oh, they were.
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Speaker 2: Doing like a separate thing called kid Star USA.
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Speaker 1: Okay, shout out to the kids Bop albums.
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Speaker 2: Kids, So they were doing that. I ended up winning
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Speaker 2: the competition. My mom didn't tell me until I was
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Speaker 2: in like top five that I was even in the.
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Speaker 1: Competitions, right, So I submitted you you had no idea
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Speaker 1: exactly by the way your top five, you might your
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Speaker 1: life might.
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Speaker 2: Change, you might exactly.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And the prize was to win a record deal, okay,
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Speaker 2: And so I was I think I was a Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I was a freshman by the time I had won,
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Speaker 2: and they came to my school and did this whole
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Speaker 2: like assembly thing.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: It was like really extra as fuck, but it was
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Speaker 2: so cool. So that then I went to New York
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Speaker 2: and signed with my first record deal. And then that's
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Speaker 2: when I started kind of going back and forth between
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Speaker 2: Phoenix and La a lot. And then there was times
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Speaker 2: where I was like living in La pretty much for
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Speaker 2: like a month, and then I would go back home
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Speaker 2: and just like come on my own, right. And then
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Speaker 2: I was officially here when I was sixteen, and then
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Speaker 2: I got dropped when I was seventeen.
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Speaker 1: From the Kids Bop la first label.
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Speaker 2: Well, I was touring with Kids Bop for a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, what's that? Wait? Wait, wait, what's the tour
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Speaker 1: with kids Bob? Who's Who's it goes off?
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Speaker 2: It's crazy?
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Speaker 1: Is it just a bunch of people's like a bunch
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Speaker 1: of children on stage, singing like in the club.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like five kids just like go showing h's your birthday? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: We're gonna party like it's your birth.
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Speaker 1: And you're on stage doing all the renditions, dancing. What's
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Speaker 1: the most ridiculous show? What's what was the most inappropriate
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Speaker 1: kids Bop? So because some of the songs, you're like,
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Speaker 1: how did they How did that make it to a
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Speaker 1: kids Bop compilation?
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Speaker 2: I think one of the ones that we perform, well, okay,
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Speaker 2: we performed what's that Maclamore song? Were you talking about
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Speaker 2: being in the.
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Speaker 1: Same oh, thrift shop?
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Speaker 2: That was called thrift shop. I'm like, you're talking about
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Speaker 2: being shop thrift shop. We did that one and it's like,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of like rapping in it,
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Speaker 2: so we had to change a lot of words. They
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Speaker 2: were not appropriate for kids, So that was interesting. The
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Speaker 2: things that we changed it to were really funny. And
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Speaker 2: then Locked out of Heaven that was also really.
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Speaker 1: Bruno Mars, Yeah, yeah, Bruno Mars. If you listen to
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Speaker 1: his lyrics sometimes you're like, oh, yeah, it's almost like
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Speaker 1: when you listen to the Weekend shit, Like you really
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Speaker 1: listen and you're like, oh, the Weekend might have a
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Speaker 1: drug problem.
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Speaker 2: I love that though.
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Speaker 1: The Weekend's my favorite, probably my favorite, Like I mean,
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Speaker 1: I just love I don't know if I listened to
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Speaker 1: anyone more than the Weekend. I love the Weekend. He's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Did you see him at a so far?
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Speaker 2: No? But she did?
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Speaker 1: It was fucking fire.
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Speaker 2: Really.
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Speaker 1: I went the night before he didn't perform because he
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Speaker 1: you know, he came out on stage and like apologized
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Speaker 1: to everybody because his voice wasn't you know, oh no,
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Speaker 1: which I actually liked because most people would have just
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Speaker 1: pushed through. But he was like, nah, I gotta do
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Speaker 1: this the right way. We're in LA. But he's amazing.
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Speaker 2: Dam did he come and like he spends it?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he redid it a few I say. I think
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Speaker 1: it's like a month and a half or two later
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Speaker 1: and then it's on HBO. Now I just watched it.
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Speaker 1: Tripping on shrooms?
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Speaker 2: Oh good for you? Should I do that?
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Speaker 1: You want to eat rooms right now? M mmm?
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Speaker 2: I mean Christine would have advice against.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I just gotta ask because we do have them.
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Speaker 1: We have the raw, we have the gummies. You just
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Speaker 1: let me know. Me and Ray Shimmer were Truman hard
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Speaker 1: during our interview. Really yes, like things are getting real realistic. Yes,
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Speaker 1: you enjoy psilocybin.
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Speaker 2: I really enjoy it. And I don't do nothing. I
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Speaker 2: don't drink good I don't smoke weed. I don't do nothing.
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Speaker 2: But you'll you'll partake in I just said nothing, but
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Speaker 2: my rooms.
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Speaker 1: Shrooms are great.
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Speaker 2: They're amazing. Yeah, they're literle like medicine.
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Speaker 1: I have people who, like a couple of my friends,
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Speaker 1: they'll microdose before they work out because it gives them
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Speaker 1: like a little more focused, little more energy.
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Speaker 2: And like a little lyft.
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Speaker 1: Yeah I read that. Have you eve Ben a d mt? No,
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Speaker 1: I want to try it. I'm scared.
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't think I would do it. Why
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Speaker 2: not because I'm by I pulled her as.
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Speaker 1: Fuck and might get rid of that.
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Speaker 2: I'm not well. The mushrooms do that for me. I'm good.
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Speaker 2: I'm good with that. Maybe maybe one day.
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Speaker 1: Or ayahuasca like Aaron Rodgers, you.
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Speaker 2: Want to do ayahuasca, though, I actually do.
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Speaker 1: I heard that change it. That's like thirty years.
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Speaker 2: Chelsea Handler do it on her show.
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Speaker 1: How was that?
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Speaker 2: It was so interesting? Like she was like crying at
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Speaker 2: the end and shit talking.
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Speaker 1: I have a friend who changed their whole life.
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Speaker 2: Her sister, and like it just changes everything. I mean,
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Speaker 2: mushrooms did that for me too the first time.
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Speaker 1: I how much would you eat though? Did you eat
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Speaker 1: a lot? Well?
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Speaker 2: I we made it in tea.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's so.
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Speaker 2: It was good because it was like I could just
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Speaker 2: slowly get into it and take more and more, and
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Speaker 2: I didn't know what to expect.
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Speaker 1: That's which I love bellies like that. Belly only likes
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Speaker 1: it in tea. He's like big shrowd guy, but he
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Speaker 1: drinks it. I don't know if I could drink it.
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Speaker 1: There's like no escaping if you drink it.
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Speaker 2: I feel like you actually can well from what I
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Speaker 2: was told. But like if you go to I went
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Speaker 2: to Amsterdam and they like, it's so different there because.
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Speaker 1: It's like it's like, yeah, it's just how it is.
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Speaker 2: It's like a dispensary.
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Speaker 1: But it's like New York City now different. Have you
11:05
Speaker 1: been in New York recently? You just go to the
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Speaker 1: liquor store, Like literally the corner store in New York
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Speaker 1: City they got shrooms right behind the counter. It's fucking
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Speaker 1: in New York City. You could buy a blunt an
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Speaker 1: eighth and some mushrooms all at the Bodaga.
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Speaker 2: Now, well we'll be there.
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Speaker 1: Why it's the wild wild water right now, you'll see
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Speaker 1: just anywhere where they got like a smoke shop, just
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Speaker 1: walk in. They right behind the counter, it's on display.
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Speaker 2: That's good, you got there. Yeah. And Amsterdam, they said
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Speaker 2: that I love it because they like actually educate you
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Speaker 2: and like they'll give you like a slip and like
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Speaker 2: tell you exactly how to do it. But they were saying,
11:41
Speaker 2: if you start to feel too high or you're like
11:44
Speaker 2: not feeling good, just drink juice. As soon as you
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Speaker 2: eat something with like a high amount of sugar in it,
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Speaker 2: it will start bringing down your high.
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Speaker 1: I'd rather eat too much shrooms than eat too much weed,
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Speaker 1: because eating too much wheat is terrible. It's the worst
12:01
Speaker 1: shit ever you've ever had, like a like a bad
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Speaker 1: edible e space.
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Speaker 2: It's the worst I've never had that, but I've I've
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Speaker 2: literally I can't even do CBD, that's how bad it is.
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Speaker 1: Well, I don't think CBD is a thing. I think
12:14
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, one of those things where like
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Speaker 1: mentally you think it's supposed to help you out, but
12:18
Speaker 1: it's like it's a placebo effect. It's like you got
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Speaker 1: a CBD massage. My wife got a CBD massage in
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Speaker 1: Palm Springs this weekend. So what do you think that is?
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Speaker 1: What the fuck are they gonna do? They're gonna rub
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Speaker 1: CBD on you. Here's a blunt smoking.
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's not good for me.
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Speaker 1: So you get paranoid.
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Speaker 2: No, I had like a full on episode like it
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Speaker 2: was bad.
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Speaker 1: So you're out on the four twenty on THHC. It's
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Speaker 1: not for you.
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Speaker 2: No, that's good. None of that. I'll celebrate with mushrooms.
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Speaker 1: Shrooms are amazing. You have a lot of tattoos, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I do. Can we explain a few of the more
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Speaker 1: notable ones that you would feel like, you know, because
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Speaker 1: you got you got a lot, and they're very like
12:57
Speaker 1: there's mother father, There looks to be a church. There
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Speaker 1: is that a hookah? Or is that a genie lamp?
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Speaker 2: No, it's actually an old perfume.
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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a perfume bottle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I like that.
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Speaker 1: People are like a jellyfish.
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Speaker 2: A jellyfish is my favorite animal. This is there's a
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Speaker 2: type of jellyfish. I think it's called the eternal jellyfish.
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Speaker 1: Why do you love them so much?
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Speaker 2: Because it's the only animal. I mean, they're just cool,
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Speaker 2: like they don't have brains and they're living, like they're
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Speaker 2: literally just like floating around, but they're alive and like
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Speaker 2: they're not really conscious, Like it's I just saw crazy thought.
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Speaker 2: But this eternal jellyfish, it can live forever. It's the
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Speaker 2: only animal that lives forever.
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Speaker 1: Oh shit.
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Speaker 2: So once it's like it, I think it's something like
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Speaker 2: if if it gets like it feels a threat or
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Speaker 2: something happening, it just starts with the life cycle all
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Speaker 2: the way over and goes back to being a pull.
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Speaker 1: Up and then we'll start that's wild.
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Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
13:52
Speaker 1: Have you ever been to Rocky Point?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: I was in Rocky Point last summer and I was
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Speaker 1: surrounded by jellyfish, and I cry like a bitch. Was afraid.
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Speaker 1: I was like, my fucking I'm gonna have to get
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Speaker 1: pissed on. Did you get done? I didn't. I was afraid.
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Speaker 1: I was like someone's trying, like they were everywhere. I
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Speaker 1: just all of a sudden, I looked around and I
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Speaker 1: was like, is that a plastic oh ship, it's a
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Speaker 1: fucking it's like seven jellyfish. I wasn't actually crying, but
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Speaker 1: I really was like I'm done. I started panicking.
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Speaker 2: I know that feeling though. I was in Australia one time.
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Speaker 1: I was like, some dude's gonna have to pee on me,
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Speaker 1: Like I don't even know the guy. No, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm okay. Never shots r Kelly, but I'll passed hard,
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Speaker 1: pass hard past on the stranger pe Okay. So what
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Speaker 1: else do we have here? What is the fruit on
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Speaker 1: your shoulder? Is that a fruit? This thing rare rare? This?
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Speaker 2: Oh? This is uh?
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Speaker 1: He has a not a fruit? Oh so he has
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Speaker 1: a He actually has an art museum in St. Petersburg, Florida,
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Speaker 1: where I used to live. Really, the Balley Museum is there?
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Speaker 2: That's dope?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's an with a flower coming out of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got some vibes? What is well? Who's Nancy?
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Speaker 2: That's my grandma?
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Speaker 1: Shout outs to Grandma. Got to pay homage to Grahams.
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Speaker 1: Do you like to play craps? Is that why you
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Speaker 1: have dice? No?
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Speaker 2: I have dice because I've been rolling the dice since
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Speaker 2: ninety seven. It's a fixed nine.
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Speaker 1: I like that. Are you were you born in eighty seven? Wow?
15:21
Speaker 1: When were you born eighty seven?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I got a decade. I remember ninety seven? Do you
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Speaker 1: do you really for sure? What's what is like the
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Speaker 1: most vivid memory you have from ninety seven walking around
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Speaker 1: Christown Mall without my parents? Do you have any parents?
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Speaker 2: What happened?
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Speaker 1: Because I was a bad kid who would like all
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Speaker 1: my friends are older, so I'd be like ten years
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Speaker 1: old running around on the Red Line in Phoenix, fucking
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Speaker 1: going to Metro Center and the Christown Mall watching my
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Speaker 1: friends steel stuff. Oh my god, yeah, Valley Metro good place. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So for you, it's been a long time since you
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Speaker 1: put out music pre pandemic, even what's been going on,
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Speaker 1: I've just.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, God, I've been writing whole time. Album is ready
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Speaker 2: to come out now. I think there's just been a
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Speaker 2: lot of obstacles that have come up that I've had
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Speaker 2: to kind of maneuver around to make it to this point.
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Speaker 2: So I'm just I've just been trying to like.
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Speaker 1: Personal stuff, business stuff, folks, and.
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Speaker 2: A lot of times they are both. I'm an artist,
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Speaker 2: so like my work is me, so everything I take
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Speaker 2: everything really personally, which is also like kind of bad.
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Speaker 2: I need to work on like separating it a little
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Speaker 2: bit more. But but yeah, everything is like super personal
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Speaker 2: to me. So pretty much everything that has to.
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Speaker 1: Do with work is like so the album is called Grudges.
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Speaker 1: Correct why Grudges?
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Speaker 2: I hold a grudge very easily.
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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to get from the south Side.
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Speaker 1: I get it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really it's really hard for me to just
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Speaker 2: be like okay, because also, like loyalty is everything to me.
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Speaker 2: So like if I'm and I really try to be
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Speaker 2: like the best friend that I can to people, I'm
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Speaker 2: just like a good person. So if I'm being what
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Speaker 2: I think is an amazing front to you and you
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Speaker 2: think I'm be an amazing front to you, and you're
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Speaker 2: like just fucking living in it, and then you do
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Speaker 2: something to fuck me over, it just shows me what
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Speaker 2: kind of person you are, because I don't I don't
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Speaker 2: change like coming into no situation. I'm always gonna be myself.
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Speaker 2: I'm always going to be open.
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Speaker 1: Have you Praakeed dealt with a lot of that being
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Speaker 1: in LA because the music industry is full of the weirdest,
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Speaker 1: which is.
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Speaker 2: So shitty to say, because I feel like a lot
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Speaker 2: of times it's like I wanted to say, like, oh,
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Speaker 2: it just gets a bad rap or like, no, it's
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Speaker 2: just not really like that.
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Speaker 1: It's probably truth.
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Speaker 2: It is the truth.
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Speaker 1: Most people who are like your associates or friends here
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Speaker 1: are only that as long as they see the benefit
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Speaker 1: coming down the pipeline. Or it's like trust me, I know. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy.
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Speaker 2: Everybody's kind of off for themselves. But I have met
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Speaker 2: a few few real ones, but a few ruins for sure,
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Speaker 2: that's for sure, a few grounded people.
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Speaker 1: Is your eighteen year old best friend from Phoenix who
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Speaker 1: you moved out here with still around.
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Speaker 2: She's not here, but she's going to move back.
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Speaker 1: Oh what she doing?
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Speaker 2: She actually moved to South Mountain too, which she didn't
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Speaker 2: live there. She moved to South Phoenix voluntarily. Yeah. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: well her mom.
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Speaker 1: Lives there, so she like went, oh, she's coming back.
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Speaker 2: But she likes it because, like she hikes every day
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Speaker 2: and you know, it's a friend over there.
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Speaker 1: She's hot. It's really hot. Yeah remember that heat wave. Bruh,
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Speaker 1: it felt like Phoenix for like two months.
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Speaker 2: People don't understand the heat of Phoenix.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'll get in the car and get a third
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Speaker 1: degree burning from your fucking.
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Speaker 2: Seatnel literally literally, it's so crazy, Like when I I
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Speaker 2: can't when I go back, I just am so spoiled here.
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Speaker 1: Now as a kid, are you like listening to MC
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Speaker 1: magic and mb Ritis? You know who they are? Though?
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Speaker 1: Like you know who MC magic is as a kid.
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Speaker 1: I mean it's more like you know the Latin side
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Speaker 1: of things. But you weren't an EMC Magic fan, just
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Speaker 1: your friend over there from.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's yeah, that's like all she listened to.
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Speaker 1: All I listened to was little rob Amanda Perez a
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Speaker 1: n b Ritis.
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Speaker 2: No, but it's because my so the way that I
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Speaker 2: the only way I know my culture and have been
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Speaker 2: informed is from my surroundings growing up. My grandpa was
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Speaker 2: deported when before my mom was born, so I never
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Speaker 2: got to know the Mexican side of my family. We're
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Speaker 2: like finding them on Danna ancestry, which is crazy, like
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Speaker 2: getting in contact with like cousins and uncles and shit,
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Speaker 2: it's wild. So I'm trying to find her dad because
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Speaker 2: we don't even know like where it is or like
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Speaker 2: we're guessing who he is.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been like a whole So you're Mexican and
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Speaker 1: what black? Okay? Yeah, so you like the whole Mexican
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Speaker 1: vibe going on in Phoenix just kind of passed you.
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Speaker 1: Like there was like the lowrider shows that were crazy
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Speaker 1: and like yeah, what, Yes, did you ever go to
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Speaker 1: the swap meet like on like fortieth Street in Washington.
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Speaker 1: That's where I got my name. I was there selling
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Speaker 1: mixtapes and DVDs and fake purses and fake Jordan's.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Almost got arrested like eleven times. I've been banned from
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Speaker 1: the swap meet by the airport, like at least ten times.
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Speaker 1: They told me to never come back. So I would
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Speaker 1: just book my spot under a different name every time,
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Speaker 1: and then I'd pay the guys to like let me
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Speaker 1: know when the security was walking around, and I'd just
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Speaker 1: walk off. How old were you sixteen, seventeen eighteen? I
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Speaker 1: had like a newborn kid when I was eighteen.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm still doing it today.
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Speaker 1: No, I'm not. I'm not, I'm not. But I still
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Speaker 1: do get random WhatsApp messages from like Chinese ladies who
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Speaker 1: have shit for sale. So they'll send me like a
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Speaker 1: link and be like new product the vail and I'll
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Speaker 1: be like, damn, they're bootlegging iPods and not iPods, the
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Speaker 1: AirPod like the ads you know those three big heavy
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Speaker 1: duty Yeah, you can get those counterfeit, and they're supposed
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Speaker 1: to sound the same. Wow, I can't get anything counterfeit,
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Speaker 1: Mac makeup. That was a vibe for a little bit
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Speaker 1: slang in that Mac. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Did you know where that was coming from?
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Speaker 1: China? Yeah? I was literally I would like I would
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Speaker 1: literally get on like MSN Messenger with like a little
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Speaker 1: Chinese lady on webcam and she would show me.
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Speaker 2: Shit and she'd be like wow, and then send it
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Speaker 2: to you.
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Speaker 1: I'd be like, show me the Larry Fitzgerald Jersey, let
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Speaker 1: me see the back. Wow, you get fifty of those.
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Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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Speaker 1: That's a great swat me, great place. Okay, so why
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Speaker 1: is there? So you got all your affairs in order,
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Speaker 1: all the all the stuff you went through is finally
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Speaker 1: kind of settled, and now we have the album? Yes?
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So what I was gonna say was the
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Speaker 2: album also had a different name before Okay, it was
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Speaker 2: called Closure. And then as we added more songs and
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Speaker 2: I did more sessions and I was going through more
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Speaker 2: shit in my life, it just didn't feel like I
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Speaker 2: had closure on nothing Like it felt like, oh okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm just like literally talking shit and I am I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about all the shit that I'm going through and
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Speaker 2: there's no answer to none of the things that I'm
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Speaker 2: putting out there. So it's grudges and not closure.
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Speaker 1: So the new song with LMA, it seemed did someone
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Speaker 1: play you? Is that what happened?
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Speaker 2: I mean people always play We just talked about this,
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Speaker 2: We just talked about how.
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, were you like? Because because at first of all,
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Speaker 1: I love the song because it's definitely like a relatable
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Speaker 1: song because a lot of people try to act like
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Speaker 1: they're not jealous people, but you know, like you're like, yo,
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Speaker 1: drop all your bitches, or don't drop all your bitches,
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Speaker 1: but drop all Yeah is that something you actually went through?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I've had that feeling.
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Speaker 1: So I.
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Speaker 2: The thing about me is like I'm one of those
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Speaker 2: people who says I'm not a jealous person.
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Speaker 1: Where every by the way, every woman ever is that.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, but no, they're all, I'm not jealous.
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Speaker 1: Who the fuck is this bitch like in your photo?
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Speaker 2: No, you can ask Christine. That's my best friend and
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Speaker 2: my manager. She's literally with me every single day because
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Speaker 2: she has to be. But you would choose, but literally,
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Speaker 2: I'm not jealous. The only thing that I'm I get
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Speaker 2: jealous about, which is so valid. Okay, is Instagram, which
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Speaker 2: is okay liking other people's photos, like other bitches photos.
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Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I just have to ask, Like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: if it's like a girl who's like bent over and
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Speaker 1: says Lincoln Bio, yeah.
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Speaker 2: For sure, I'd be pick.
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Speaker 1: It's a problem.
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Speaker 2: But it's like like girls that like you don't even know,
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Speaker 2: like you don't even be knowing them, and they're like,
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Speaker 2: you know, I love a girl and the bikini pick,
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Speaker 2: I have a bikini pick. We all do it. It's great, right,
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Speaker 2: but if my partner is liking that person's pictures, you
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Speaker 2: don't even know her first of all. Second of all,
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Speaker 2: she's not looking out for you, right she guys don't
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Speaker 2: give a fuck if you're liking her pictures.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's the line in the Sandie.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it's just like why because I'm okay with like
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Speaker 2: you looking at the picture enjoying it and then scrolling like.
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Speaker 1: I know we all are, but don't double tap.
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Speaker 2: Don't double tap? Why why do you have to go
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Speaker 2: to the extra mile because you want attention? So what
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Speaker 2: do you want the attention? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: What do you want what do you want that person?
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Speaker 1: That's what If they're just following the person, is that
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Speaker 1: a problem? No?
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Speaker 2: No, That's what I'm saying, Like, I I understand that
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Speaker 2: we're attracted to people, right, Like do you follow?
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Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to figure out what the female equation
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Speaker 1: or equivalent is to you know, guys will follow IG thoughts, right,
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Speaker 1: Are there dude versions of that that I'm just not
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Speaker 1: hip to? Like, are there guys with like twelve like
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Speaker 1: twelve packs? I don't even think that's real. That'd be
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Speaker 1: definitely surgical if that's the thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there is, but I don't want to see it.
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Speaker 2: I be following the Instagram girls because they're women are
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Speaker 2: just so much more beautiful.
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Speaker 1: I agree, you'll follow the IG women as well. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 1: so yeah, okay, don't be tapping. Don't don't double.
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Speaker 2: Tap, don't do it, like, just don't do it. Why,
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Speaker 2: especially because it's like for nothing, right, You're not you're
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Speaker 2: not going to get that attention you're seeking.
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Speaker 1: You're hoping that you get. Yeah yeah yeah, and then
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Speaker 1: you look crazy because if like one of your mutual friends.
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Speaker 2: Is like yo, sees that they're liking their show man is.
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Speaker 1: Over here double tapping Rosa Costa's fucking aspects exactly.
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Speaker 2: And my worst fear, like I hate other people knowing
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Speaker 2: things about me that I don't know. And that's like
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Speaker 2: the worst part.
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Speaker 1: You don't want to feel. You don'tant to feel like again,
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Speaker 1: like yeah, not, I hear you.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to look like an idiot, you know,
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Speaker 2: like I don't want other people knowing shit before me.
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Speaker 2: That was like the most that was the worst part
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Speaker 2: about being cheated on. The one time I was cheated on,
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Speaker 2: I was like, the most fucked up part was that
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Speaker 2: everyone knew except sent you.
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Speaker 1: So it was like they were like the friends knew
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Speaker 1: because it's I feel like it's like it probably a
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Speaker 1: different situation if like your man is on vacation in
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Speaker 1: Miami and he hooks of the stranger he's never gonna
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Speaker 1: see again. Sure you should hate that and you should
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Speaker 1: leave him for that, but it's not like if like this,
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Speaker 1: it's like a thing, a known thing, and everyone's lying
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Speaker 1: to your face and like you're like, what the fuck,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm just booboo the full at this point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it was like it was so bad, like
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Speaker 2: like this guy and his best friend had a threesome
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Speaker 2: basically with this girl. That's that's how I got cheated on.
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Speaker 2: And then his friend that he did it with asked
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Speaker 2: me to pick him up from the airport before I know. Hmm, yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Yeah, Trash.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I, you know, could participate in
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Speaker 1: such activities.
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Speaker 2: Would you If I'm not sure I can cheated on you,
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Speaker 2: would it hurt you more if they did it because
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Speaker 2: they loved the person, or if they did it because
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Speaker 2: it was just like a one night thing because they
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Speaker 2: loved the person, that would hurt more.
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Speaker 1: I think, So, huh what about you?
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Speaker 2: No, that wouldn't hurt more because you