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A (Half) Bachelor Break-Up: Discussing Jason Tartick and Kat Stickler · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, guys, welcome to Almost Famous.
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  Speaker 3: And the OG and the It's like DJ and the Bear.
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  Speaker 4: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: So we're here to talk about Jason Tartic and Kat
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  Speaker 2: Stickler's breakup.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So I'm really bummed about this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, I know we have to talk about
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  Speaker 4: it because it is Bachelor Nation news, and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like, you know, only half Bachelor Nation news.
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  Speaker 3: That's true, it's only half news.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, Like when did it become like if there
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  Speaker 2: was a Bachelor person involved, it was still a Bachelor
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  Speaker 2: Nation couple because that's what they just like, shouldn't it
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  Speaker 2: just separate off?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be like just a separate breaking news
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  Speaker 4: for two personas in the year.
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  Speaker 2: If Jason had never dated Caitlin, this wouldn't really have
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  Speaker 2: been news. But he really stayed in such a relevant
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  Speaker 2: battle for so long.
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  Speaker 4: Oh that's very true. And you know it's funny. When
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  Speaker 4: he first started dating Cat, I actually was like I
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  Speaker 4: didn't know who she was, and I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 4: she kind of resembles Caitlin a little like in my mind,
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  Speaker 4: like I thought they kind of resembled one another. I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't say they looked alike, but they had like both
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  Speaker 4: had these bubbly personalities, both bruts both.
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  Speaker 3: You know, maybe that's why I thought that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but anyway, Yes, it's official, they are
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  Speaker 4: broken up. I owe him a phone call, actually, and
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  Speaker 4: I will do that.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying that you owe the phone call to say I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry that you to hear about your breakup.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So that means you guys are close enough for
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  Speaker 2: you to make a phone call like that.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I think we're I wouldn't say we're We're
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  Speaker 4: not like you know, it's not like we're like besties
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  Speaker 4: and we call each other every day. But whenever we
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  Speaker 4: see each other at things or whenever we something happens,
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  Speaker 4: it's relevant in the other person's life.
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  Speaker 3: We both reached out. I love his mom because you know,
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  Speaker 3: he did the Today Show panel with me few times.
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  Speaker 4: That's how he and I and that's where he broke
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  Speaker 4: that he and Caitlin were a couple actually, and uh
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  Speaker 4: it was with with with Kathy Lean Hodah and so
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  Speaker 4: you know, I feel like I was a part of
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  Speaker 4: that journey a little bit there, and you know, not
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  Speaker 4: so much a part of this one. I never met Kat,
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  Speaker 4: but you know, I was rooting for them. But I
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  Speaker 4: gotta think it's hard, you know, Like I was thinking
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  Speaker 4: about this the other day. You know, I make like
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  Speaker 4: I literally I've had the conversations with people and they'll go,
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  Speaker 4: you know, are you into what we call online dating?
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, no, I do deald fashion. I go
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  Speaker 3: on a TV showing him not flowers.
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  Speaker 2: But also, like, you haven't been dating in quite some time.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't be dating in a very long time. Although
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to date my wife again to let her.
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  Speaker 2: Know we should do that too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough with kids at these ages, you know.
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  Speaker 4: But uh yeah, So I was so hopeful for these two,
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  Speaker 4: but I also realized how difficult it had to be
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  Speaker 4: because they're both they both become uh you know Instagram
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  Speaker 4: people write or or TikTok people or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's what she's known for, yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: as being a social media She's an influencer who really
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  Speaker 2: gardnered her own audience. You know, she didn't come from
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  Speaker 2: the show.
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  Speaker 3: Right, which is huge.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's her career and I've.
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  Speaker 4: Got to believe that it's difficult, you know, Like like
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  Speaker 4: I watched the video that she posted about their breakup,
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  Speaker 4: and she looked like the last thing in the world
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  Speaker 4: she wanted to talk about, you know, And I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what that means other than I'm sure it's it's
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  Speaker 4: it's not it's not brand new, right, because, like she said,
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  Speaker 4: she's waited for a couple of the hurricanes that passed
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  Speaker 4: by before she posted something, which I think is pretty
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  Speaker 4: mindful and says a lot about her to to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: not think that the world revolves around her.
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  Speaker 3: And she posts something in the middle of a you know,
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  Speaker 3: natural disaster. Yeah, good for her on that.
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  Speaker 4: And then you know, and then you read what Jason wrote,
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  Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, he he seems like he's
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  Speaker 4: really lamenting the moment, and she almost I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: she looks like she's just sort of I mean, she
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  Speaker 4: hasn't really much choice, right, She's a mom.
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  Speaker 3: She doesn't have time to like sit around the wallow.
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  Speaker 4: She's got to get back in the mix with her
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  Speaker 4: child and be present and be you know, you can't
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  Speaker 4: sit in the couch and eat you know, a couple
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  Speaker 4: of cases of hoggindash for a month to get yourself
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  Speaker 4: over a breakup. You got a kid that needs you,
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  Speaker 4: so you're back in the mix. You know, I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what are your thoughts. I mean, you're a woman,
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  Speaker 4: you've gone through this kind of thing, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: what do you think when you when you see both
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  Speaker 4: sides of this?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so hers is obviously we feel more emotionally because
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  Speaker 2: we see her and we hear her when she's talking
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  Speaker 2: about it. She says it's mutual in the video. There's
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  Speaker 2: two sides of this. You can say, oh, it's mutual
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  Speaker 2: and like both people are going to be sad, or
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  Speaker 2: you can try to spin it the juice her way,
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  Speaker 2: I suppose, and be like, she seems quite upset. Doesn't
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  Speaker 2: seem mutual. Yeah, And you know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 2: make a lot of judgments there. We really don't know
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  Speaker 2: at all what happened. Jason said in his statement that
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  Speaker 2: he's a guy that like falls hard and falls fast,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes falling in love like that doesn't always work out.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's like kind of referring to his relationship
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  Speaker 2: with Caitlin in that sense too, just because he kind
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  Speaker 2: of like makes it a general statement, right, But the
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  Speaker 2: two of them have been together for I want to
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  Speaker 2: say it was like nine months. I think they were
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  Speaker 2: first spotted on vacation and December or January together. I
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  Speaker 2: know Ben had dinner with him, and I think February
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  Speaker 2: the two of them, and then they announced their relationship,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll have the dates in front of me. But
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  Speaker 2: I sometimes earning a spring, and so much of their
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  Speaker 2: relationship was public, and there was so much love bombing
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  Speaker 2: on social media where it's like just so many tiktoks
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  Speaker 2: and reels of them showing how into each other they were,
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  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden it stops, and we
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  Speaker 2: get that you have to do you know, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of you don't have to do it, but we get
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  Speaker 2: that as two influencers, it's beneficial to show your love
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  Speaker 2: like that if it's you know, you'd like to think true.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm sure it was very very true. We
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  Speaker 2: have no idea why they broke up, like I said,
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  Speaker 2: and we probably will never will. Yeah, she wants to
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  Speaker 2: reveal some things on her end. I don't think Jason
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  Speaker 2: will ever say anything.
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  Speaker 3: I always say there's three sides to every story. There's
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  Speaker 3: her side his side and the truth right, So.
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  Speaker 4: Like, and that's I really believe that not just in breakups,
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  Speaker 4: but in arguments and you know, whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 3: Is like there's always there's always some great area where.
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  Speaker 4: We're all interpreting things a little bit differently than one another,
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  Speaker 4: and you got to hope that somehow that just sort
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  Speaker 4: of mixes in the middle and it's it's all good.
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  Speaker 4: But you know, in a situation like this, I think,
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously she's she's very busy with her you know,
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  Speaker 4: social media career.
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  Speaker 3: Like you said, this isn't a hobby for her. This
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  Speaker 3: is this is she's really popular and really well known
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  Speaker 3: and really established.
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  Speaker 4: And she's she's a mom, you know, and so I
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  Speaker 4: would imagine as she strikes me as someone who would
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  Speaker 4: be a really hands on parent. It seems, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: as much as you can be, you know, when you're
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  Speaker 4: not with your child all the time. So you know,
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  Speaker 4: I would guess that you you know, your kid always
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  Speaker 4: comes first, and you you would hope that that's you know,
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  Speaker 4: the thing.
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  Speaker 3: So I wonder if that has anything to do with anything.
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  Speaker 2: That probably makes it harder for her. I'm sure that
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  Speaker 2: she didn't want to one introduce Jason to her. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure he stayed. I don't I'm just assuming things, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure he stayed at their house at some point.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, she did put the relationship out there
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  Speaker 2: so much with with having a child, and that's totally fine.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that, like I think that she
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  Speaker 2: probably was, like I thought that this would have more longevity,
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  Speaker 2: yeah than yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know they always say that, like people
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  Speaker 4: say say, like I didn't introduce them to my kids
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  Speaker 4: for six months, you know, I was like, Okay, maybe
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  Speaker 4: we're at that point or something, you know, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: thank you, right.
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  Speaker 2: I feel for her on that, and especially since she's
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  Speaker 2: probably that's what she's probably getting in the comments like
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  Speaker 2: why did you you know, why did you allow your
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  Speaker 2: daughter to be so involved in that relationship. So that's
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  Speaker 2: what sucks for her, But and it sucks just in
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  Speaker 2: general that like you have to deal with something like
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  Speaker 2: that when you do have a career like she does.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, then you also have to think about
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  Speaker 2: the benefits of a career like we all have. And
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  Speaker 2: it's just like it's the best job in the entire world,
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  Speaker 2: but does come with its downsides, and that being one
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  Speaker 2: of them.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's definitely a downside to it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I guess you're right, we're probably never gonna know.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, maybe it is am a call amongst both
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  Speaker 4: of them, and you know, maybe you know, who knows,
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  Speaker 4: Maybe there's a light at the end of the tunnel
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  Speaker 4: at some point for them as well.
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  Speaker 3: You never, no, I guess. But doesn't seem like her
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  Speaker 3: right now if you're reading.
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  Speaker 2: Her message as I don't know her personally at all,
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  Speaker 2: and you know I've only seen Jason on a occasion. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I still feel like I can talk about Jason's future romances,
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  Speaker 2: more so because he's part of Bachelor Nation. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: not even going to dabble with her. But what what
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  Speaker 2: do you see is next for Jason? Do you think
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  Speaker 2: he's going to be single for a while or do
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  Speaker 2: you think that he's gonna date somebody else in the
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  Speaker 2: public eye? He gonna date somebody bribe it, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know, I will say this so having been someone who
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  Speaker 4: dated publicly and got married publicly and then divorced publicly,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the hardest thing is is something like this,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like I remember going into the grocery store
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  Speaker 4: and I'm sitting there all heartbroken and I walk in
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  Speaker 4: and you know, and my ex wife and I are
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  Speaker 4: on the cover of you know, us Weekly, and you know, with.
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  Speaker 3: A rip down the Meddle, and I'm just like, oh geez,
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  Speaker 3: you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I made the conscious choice after that that I
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  Speaker 4: was like, you know, even if I do date someone
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  Speaker 4: in the public eye, which I did, I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 4: not gonna be public about it, you know, And so
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna try and keep something to myself
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  Speaker 4: for a little while. And I would say, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, for for Jason in particular, like you said,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know cats, so I won't speak to that,
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  Speaker 4: but Jason in particular, I do know him, and he's
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  Speaker 4: gone through too.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty public now, you know, breakups, and you know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe it is.
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  Speaker 4: Time to try and not be so out there with
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  Speaker 4: it and see if that helps, you know, or maybe
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  Speaker 4: you know, And you definitely have every right to say that, right,
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  Speaker 4: you definitely have.
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  Speaker 3: Every right to go, I'm gonna take my time on
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  Speaker 3: this next one.
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  Speaker 4: And I was gonna, you know, I'm gonna wait before
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  Speaker 4: I put it out there because I don't want people commenting.
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  Speaker 3: Even if that's why you're not doing it. It's just
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  Speaker 3: to keep you know.
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  Speaker 4: Everybody at home, just to sort of keep their mouths
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  Speaker 4: shut for a little bit and give me a chance
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  Speaker 4: to have a relationship that develops at a normal pace
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  Speaker 4: as opposed to a highly accelerated pace, which I think
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  Speaker 4: that's what social media does.
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  Speaker 3: It takes at next level really fast. You know. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that that would my thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the next thing we can hopefully get is an
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  Speaker 2: answer from one of them at some point. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: Jason will come on the podcast, you know, when this
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  Speaker 2: is less relevant news, but always interested to know what
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  Speaker 2: happens in relationships. You know. I've because I'm a noseybody,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, this podcast, while we try to keep
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  Speaker 2: it classy, it really is a gossip podcast. And that
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  Speaker 2: is fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we do try to keep it classy San Diego,
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  Speaker 4: but we often Yeah, Well, let me ask you this.
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  Speaker 3: Are you are you prepared to break your news here
• 11:34
  Speaker 3: on our podcast of what you did last night?
• 11:36
  Speaker 2: Oh that I met justin Timberlake last night? What guys?
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  Speaker 2: I posted the video on Instagram. You can see the
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  Speaker 2: whole one minute in fifteen second interaction. I think that's
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  Speaker 2: officially meeting somebody, and thank you to everybody who took
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: video of his interaction. I can't believe that I was
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  Speaker 2: just like talking to him from the stage. It was
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  Speaker 2: just the most unreal moment of my life, A true
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  Speaker 2: fangirl's dream come true.
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  Speaker 3: Did he know who you were? Or did he?
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  Speaker 2: I always used to say, like, you know, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how I feel about meeting your like idols.
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  Speaker 3: Heroes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, heroes is like a strong word, you know. I
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't call it just a hero, but like definitely an idol,
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  Speaker 2: And it was. It was. It was everything I could
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  Speaker 2: have imagined and hopeful.
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  Speaker 3: I love that so good.
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  Speaker 2: I can watch the video over and over again. But
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  Speaker 2: to be honest, I was like scared to watch the
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  Speaker 2: video once I left the arena because I was like,
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  Speaker 2: what if I'm not cool? What if it's not as
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  Speaker 2: good as I thought it was in real life? And
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  Speaker 2: it was. It came across on video wonderfully as well.
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  Speaker 3: Was it a setup moment or was it just a
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  Speaker 3: total organic moment?
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Total organic moment. My friend who I went with wrote
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  Speaker 2: a sign that said I delivered her baby on your
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  Speaker 2: birthday because I went with my midwife. Oh my gosh,
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: and Dawson was born on Justin's birthday, and I kind
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  Speaker 2: of knew that that sign that we had second row
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  Speaker 2: seats might garner a little attention from him. All right, Well,
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  Speaker 2: now my kid, who was born on Justin Tipla's birthday,
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  Speaker 2: is yelling at me to get him another piece of pizza,
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  Speaker 2: so I guess I'll have to.
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  Speaker 3: Go that mom duty calls. All right, we have a
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  Speaker 3: great night. Thanks everybody for listening to Almost Famous and
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: the OG. We've had a good time Almost to Joe G.
• 13:20
  Speaker 2: You know you should fill in for Ben whenever we need,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: and we'll just keep calling it that. I love it.
• 13:24
  Speaker 3: I love it too. Let's do it.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: Bye bye.
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