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Julio Urias suspension, Guardians acquire Nolan Jones, O’s sign Kyle Gibson, Extension szn: Bibee, Kirk, Justin Martinez · Foul Territory

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Speaker 1: The less time at the beginning of some type of
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Speaker 1: arm injury, the less time at the end of it.
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Speaker 1: So hopefully they can calm this down. Nerves are nerves
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Speaker 1: are weird.
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Speaker 2: Hey, how are we doing?
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Speaker 3: First of all, we're very excited to be going to
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati for a few days later this week, So I
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Speaker 3: just want to remind everyone about that.
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Speaker 2: You're not going I.
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Speaker 1: Get invited, So don't did they invited?
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Speaker 4: I didn't get invited. I didn't get invited either.
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Speaker 2: I got invited.
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Speaker 4: You don't invite for me.
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Speaker 1: Anyway. Don't start mondays off like this. You guys are
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Speaker 1: still my friend, right, I mean you can't just say, hey,
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Speaker 1: you're still my friend. Like that's that's.
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Speaker 5: Why didn't we Why didn't Krats and I get invited?
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Speaker 5: That's that's more of the question, is Krats and I
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Speaker 5: didn't get invited?
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Speaker 4: Why? I want to know why we didn't get invited.
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Speaker 1: I know what, Todd in Cincinnati is way cooler than
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Speaker 1: either one of us and who else? Oh yeah, Danny
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Speaker 1: Graves is going to be there, So the pictures aren't
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Speaker 1: that cool?
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Speaker 2: Don't try to if we do one at the Brewers,
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Speaker 2: you're so invited.
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Speaker 1: He's cool in his own mind. Danny Graves is cool
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Speaker 1: in his own mind. It's not that like compared to
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Speaker 1: like catchers and stuff. Yeah, sure it's not.
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Speaker 3: It's close for a ja, I mean, if we're doing
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Speaker 3: in Chicago, Minnesota, et cetera. But maybe next time it
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Speaker 3: will not be most likely our only trip to Cincinnati.
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Speaker 2: So how about that.
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Speaker 1: Hey, when you got todd, you need to do it,
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Speaker 1: hm exactly.
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Speaker 3: So anyway, more details on that later on, but we
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Speaker 3: did break it last Friday. That will be there for
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Speaker 3: shows on Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, so stay tuned for
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Speaker 3: more information on that front. We will be live on
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Speaker 3: the scene for opening Day. And there is a scramble
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Speaker 3: going on right now. We'll trade We'll get to an
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Speaker 3: aspect extensions which hadn't really been formulating for most of
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Speaker 3: spring training like they usually do, and now all of
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Speaker 3: a sudden, they're hitting hard fast, so let's charge him out,
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Speaker 3: charging out, AJ, Can you explain this one for me?
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Speaker 3: Cleveland traded Nolan Jones several years ago to the Rockies,
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Speaker 3: who had a breakout twenty twenty three down twenty twenty
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Speaker 3: four for a number of reasons, both on the field
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Speaker 3: and off, and then the Rockies trade him back to Cleveland.
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Speaker 3: Guardians need pop for Tyler Freeman, utility infielder heading to Colorado.
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Speaker 2: Now, they acquired.
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Speaker 3: Juan Brito for Nolan Jones a couple of years back,
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Speaker 3: so now they traded Jones, they get him back. They
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Speaker 3: still have Brito. And I'm not knocking Tyler Fremant. Nice
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Speaker 3: serviceable utility player, plays good defense. But the upside of
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Speaker 3: Nolan Jones is still high. Right, he's not thirty nine.
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Speaker 3: I think he's like twenty six.
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Speaker 5: There must there must be something we don't know about,
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Speaker 5: because I don't understand why they would make this deal.
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Speaker 5: The best part of this is they were on the
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Speaker 5: phone texting each other, Hey, I got traded. I got
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Speaker 5: traded too, and then boom, they got traded for each
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Speaker 5: other and didn't know. I think it's awesome. I think
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Speaker 5: it's hilarious. I don't know what they're doing. I mean,
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Speaker 5: we've had, you know, questionable questions about the Rockies and
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Speaker 5: what they're doing and where they're headed.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I don't. I don't know. I really I don't.
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Speaker 4: I don't.
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Speaker 5: I just don't understand this one. Two years ago, he
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Speaker 5: hit twenty homers sixty Arbis at a nine thirty ops
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Speaker 5: last there was a down year, But I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I like his chances and he's gonna fit in great
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Speaker 5: in that Cleveland outfield because they don't have any pop
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Speaker 5: in that outfield.
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Speaker 4: They ain't all the pop they can't get.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, without putting big Christmas out there, you're you're struggling
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Speaker 1: to really get much pop. And I think the the
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Speaker 1: upside is really big on Nolan Jones. Tyler Freeman is
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Speaker 1: a big league player. But I'm just I'm wondering did
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Speaker 1: they feel like they had too many outfielders the Rockies,
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Speaker 1: because it just run three dudes out there in that
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Speaker 1: outfield in that altitude, you're just gonna You're just get
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Speaker 1: worn out. You just can't play. You can't play the same.
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Speaker 1: You almost have to have a mandatory four man rotation
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Speaker 1: out there, no matter what I mean, Brent Doyle gold
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Speaker 1: glove out there. Maybe they didn't think Nolan Jones's defense
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Speaker 1: was that great, but to me that this is this
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Speaker 1: is a good for Cleveland because they were like, oh,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I think we're just gonna let this
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Speaker 1: guy go. He strikes out too much in the minor leagues,
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Speaker 1: Little little cup of coffee in the big leagues. Then
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Speaker 1: he went to the Rockies and they're like, ah, crap,
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Speaker 1: maybe we won them back. I think it's a great
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Speaker 1: pickup for Cleveland.
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Speaker 3: For Colorado, a j their outfield according to fangrats right
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Speaker 3: now is Doyle like Crawd's mentioned, Jordan Beck and Nick Martini.
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Speaker 2: I know Zachvine's been hitting well in spring training.
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Speaker 3: So I don't know what his situation is, but it's
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Speaker 3: not the outfields of your dreams.
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Speaker 5: I mean, what position is Chris I enlisted as the
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Speaker 5: first base dh.
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Speaker 2: Dh m.
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Speaker 1: Okay?
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Speaker 5: I mean beans Bean's the guy who bat flips and
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Speaker 5: almost kills pitchers, So I mean he's he's got to
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Speaker 5: make the team right.
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Speaker 1: So much slag, bro, He's.
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Speaker 4: Got a little swags. I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I thought Nolan Jones was a great bounce back candidate,
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Speaker 5: especially being in course field, but now he's going to
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Speaker 5: go to Cleveland and get to play a lot and
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Speaker 5: voter knows how to It seems like put guys in
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Speaker 5: the right situations make guys feel comfortable.
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Speaker 4: So I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I like this move for Cleveland. I don't get it
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Speaker 5: from the Rocky side, but we don't get a lot
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Speaker 5: from the Rocky side.
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Speaker 1: We don't, but Cleveland's side of it. They've been looking
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Speaker 1: for a platoon for Big Christmas. As much as I
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Speaker 1: joked about it with with Voter when we were in
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Speaker 1: the Bbwa's like, the dude needs more at bats and
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Speaker 1: if they're not willing to give that to him, have
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Speaker 1: a strict platoon only versus lefties. And then Nolan Jones
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Speaker 1: gets alrighty, so I think I think it's a big
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Speaker 1: for him. So AJ.
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Speaker 3: The Guardians have a little bit of rays of the
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Speaker 3: Midwest vibes to them with the way they've been able
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Speaker 3: to develop pitching and operate on a really really small
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Speaker 3: budget and have some success lately. I mean last year's
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Speaker 3: a good example that was a super low budget team
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Speaker 3: made it to the ALCS.
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Speaker 2: Pitching was fire.
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Speaker 3: They made some really smart transactions over the last several years.
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Speaker 2: To me, it was one of those.
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Speaker 3: Cases where the Rockies clearly have not or should not
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Speaker 3: be receiving benefit of the doubt. Get a phone call
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Speaker 3: from a team that already had Nolan Jones regrets trading
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Speaker 3: him away and seeing him thrive in twenty twenty three,
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Speaker 3: calls to get him back. What should they have done, most.
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Speaker 4: Likely wondered what they did wrong and maybe have them.
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Speaker 5: I mean, if I'm if I'm the if I'm the Rockies,
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Speaker 5: I'm wondering why the Guardians won him so badly.
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Speaker 4: You know.
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Speaker 5: It's like when you make trades with the Rays, you wonder, man,
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Speaker 5: do they know something we don't know? That's what you
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Speaker 5: always hear, Like when did raise call? Don't answer because
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Speaker 5: they know something you don't know. It seems like it
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Speaker 5: always works out for him. Not always, but it just
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Speaker 5: seems that way.
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Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 5: It's a weird trade for me, but we'll see how
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Speaker 5: it plays out. We'll see what the Rockies end out.
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Speaker 5: But it's definitely not a standard trade that you would
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Speaker 5: think would a team like the Rockies that needs all
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Speaker 5: the help they get would make, especially offensively.
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Speaker 2: And not not a back issue. Last year.
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Speaker 3: I know he was dealing with something off the field too, right,
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Speaker 3: a family issue.
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Speaker 2: I don't have to get into it, but back.
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Speaker 3: Issue alone, I'm like, Okay, if you think this is chronic,
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Speaker 3: this is it. This guy's going to be seventy five
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Speaker 3: ops plus cool, But at twenty six, I look one
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Speaker 3: year before that and say four win player one thirty
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Speaker 3: eight ops plus twenty home runs twenty stolen bases in
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Speaker 3: one hundred and six games.
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Speaker 1: By the way two years ago, I mean he couldn't
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Speaker 1: be happier. Get out of Colorado, not because the team's
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Speaker 1: bad or the organization, but because if you have back
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Speaker 1: problems and you've got to try to recover and play
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Speaker 1: throughout a whole year in Colorado, Welcome to Cleveland. Cleveland
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Speaker 1: Rocks mm hmm.
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Speaker 3: And it's a much more competitive team, much much more
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Speaker 3: competitive team. So good for weird one, but we'll.
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Speaker 3: extension season Tanner Biby, who's their guy right now? I mean,
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Speaker 3: I know Biaber's working his way back. But here's the
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Speaker 3: contract details from Zach Mizell. Five years club option for
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Speaker 3: twenty thirty. It guarantees him forty eight mil over those
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Speaker 3: five years. There's a signing bonus the club option. Excuse me,
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Speaker 3: I'm allergic to extensions, but for Bibby, I mean it
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Speaker 3: could end up being let's see if they take the
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Speaker 3: sixth year, six years sixty eight mil, so it's at
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Speaker 3: least five years forty eight mil. We always have to
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Speaker 3: do our reminder aja to everyone that this is not
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Speaker 3: the same as a free agent contract. Don't look some
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Speaker 3: free agent picture and say how does that person get this?
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Speaker 3: And Bibby only get that this guy who still has
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Speaker 3: plenty of years of team control left, but they take
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Speaker 3: up at least one free agent year, maybe two if
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Speaker 3: they pick up that club option, which would run things
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Speaker 3: through twenty thirty. I was looking back at how he
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Speaker 3: did last year and really has been good for a
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Speaker 3: couple of seasons. Last year he made thirty one starts,
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Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy three and two thirds innings. Nowadays,
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Speaker 3: that's a workhorse. Cleveland in his starts was twenty four
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Speaker 3: and nine. I know you hate wins and losses for pitchers,
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Speaker 3: but can I sell you on the team record?
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Speaker 4: I do.
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Speaker 2: On the team record twenty four and nine.
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Speaker 3: AKA, this guy pitches, then they go to the bullpen,
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Speaker 3: which was elite, and they win games.
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Speaker 5: He's their ace. Listen, you said it, he's their guy
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Speaker 5: right now. I don't care what you can put. You
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Speaker 5: can throw any number you wont him.
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Speaker 4: He's got.
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Speaker 5: This guy pitched the game one of every playoff series
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Speaker 5: that he was eligible to pitch. He was their guy,
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Speaker 5: and he deservedly so he kind of came out of nowhere.
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Speaker 5: I think it was last year, geez, because I remember
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Speaker 5: I had one of his first starts and I'm like,
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Speaker 5: who is this bibby bibb ribberdy bibberty guy right, And
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Speaker 5: they're like, no, it's baby, And then we got to
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Speaker 5: talk to him and he was awesome. And then we've
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Speaker 5: had him on the show and he's great. I think
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Speaker 5: he finished what second in the Rookie of the Year
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Speaker 5: last year ago.
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Speaker 2: You're mixing up two years ago. Two years ago he
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Speaker 2: came on the scene and you were like, what is
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Speaker 2: this guy?
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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, two years ago.
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Speaker 5: Sorry, there's been a lot of there's been a lot
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Speaker 5: of games I've done in the last two years, so
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Speaker 5: kicking a lot of guardians, I'm serious. So yeah, but listen,
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Speaker 5: this guy's great. We had him on the show last year.
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Speaker 5: He was unbelievable interview and you know, he's got the glasses,
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Speaker 5: he's got the whole look. He's got he's got the
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Speaker 5: fastball that he throws at the top of the zone.
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Speaker 5: He's got to break him on a change hup off
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Speaker 5: of it. He ain't scared. He throws it over the plate.
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Speaker 5: He started in playoff games for him last year, and
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Speaker 5: this is a great extension for him and for the Guardians.
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Speaker 5: It keeps him under team control. They know what he's
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Speaker 5: gonna make for the next five years. And you know what,
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Speaker 5: it also makes him easier to trade if it comes
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Speaker 5: down to it, because other teams know what he's gonna make.
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Speaker 5: So congratulations, Tanner, you got your first one gradulations Guardian.
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Speaker 4: You just got another trade ship down.
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Speaker 1: The Essentially, the Guardians just paid twenty six million if
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Speaker 1: I do my math right, for the rest of his
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Speaker 1: time as a Guardian, because as a free agent, he
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Speaker 1: would have been gone anyway. They cost certainty his time
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Speaker 1: with the Guardians. The extra whatever twenty one million in
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Speaker 1: nineteen would be his first free agent year twenty one
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Speaker 1: club option. All that does is make him super valuable
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Speaker 1: to trade. Guardians are never gonna pay him twenty one
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Speaker 1: million dollars. There's a chance they don't even pay him
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Speaker 1: the ten million, depending on how the twenty twenty eight
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Speaker 1: season goes. And I know that's morbid. You know it's
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Speaker 1: looking terrible, like, oh, he's not going to be here.
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Speaker 1: They did a great job of locking it up because
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Speaker 1: with the signing bonus, it's twenty seven twenty six million
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna pay him for four years. Get your
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Speaker 1: number one for six a year. Yeah, yeah, pretty dee.
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Speaker 1: Because if he goes and he goes in top five,
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Speaker 1: top ten and cy young in the next two years,
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Speaker 1: it's just gonna skyrocket's already because he was number two
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Speaker 1: in Rookie of the Year voting and he already got
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Speaker 1: that whatever million, million and a half bonus pool because
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Speaker 1: he got that. But yeah, it was crazy, crazy good
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Speaker 1: for good for both of them because he's locked up,
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Speaker 1: he's young, and he's not really giving away. Pitchers are
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Speaker 1: getting six year deals when they're thirty years old. He'll
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Speaker 1: be a free agent at thirty one.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're a pictuer at that age, you take
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Speaker 2: some cash first, right, Oh.
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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. I don't know if it's even just pictures.
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Speaker 1: You got anybody, I think anybody. I mean, it wasn't
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Speaker 1: like he was a high pick. He was a fifth rounder.
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Speaker 1: There's there's there's just a lot. I'm not telling everybody
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Speaker 1: to take an extension. I'm just saying, get your money.
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Speaker 1: Don't don't necessarily think, oh, this is gonna last forever
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Speaker 1: because it might not. And then he's not. He's not
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Speaker 1: giving away you know, his age thirty to thirty five
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Speaker 1: season through this contract. It's a lot of money and
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Speaker 1: good for him.
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Speaker 3: I just think, AJ, it's how much easier case for
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Speaker 3: a pitcher for two reasons. One, pitchers get hurt more
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Speaker 3: than position players and those injuries could be career ending.
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Speaker 3: And two, pictures like kratz Is mentioning, can get paid
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Speaker 3: a little easier in their thirties. The trust factor, if
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Speaker 3: you do make it into your thirties and you look
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Speaker 3: really good, is higher from teams than if you're most players,
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Speaker 3: besides the superstar outliers, they look at you if you're
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Speaker 3: in your thirties as a position player and say, hey,
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Speaker 3: we're counting down the days until that batsuite slows down.
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Speaker 4: Yes they are. I mean they'd call you old at thirty.
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Speaker 5: Nowadays, that was like, well, a lot of times the
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Speaker 5: guys are coming into their prime because they were smarter
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Speaker 5: and they knew how to hit. Now it's like, oh,
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Speaker 5: you're thirty, you're so old, in which I disagree with,
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Speaker 5: especially for position players, but yeah, they're almost like pitchers. Now, Oh,
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Speaker 5: has he had a Tommy john Oh okay, well yeah,
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Speaker 5: so okay, Well then he's already he's thirty, so we
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Speaker 5: know we can get four or five more years at
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Speaker 5: him because he's had a Tommy Johnny might have a
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Speaker 5: second one, but he'll be fine and come bounce back
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Speaker 5: from that too. So again, I love this deal for Tanner,
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Speaker 5: I love it for the Guardians, and it's good for
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Speaker 5: these guys to get their first contract because it matters.
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Speaker 3: Yep, I'm with you, and much more to hit in
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Speaker 3: terms of signings extensions, all of that later on. Kyle
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Speaker 3: Gibson signed and Alejandra Kirk signed an extension.
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Speaker 2: All that we'll get to a little bit later on.
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Speaker 2: The spring training injuries happened, a lot of them. This
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Speaker 3: Shane McClanahan looked like the Shane McClanahan from a couple
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Speaker 3: did not look good and the news is somewhat positive,
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Speaker 5: like he got shot. I mean seriously, like I mean
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Speaker 5: when when he walked off the mountain, You're like, man,
17:16
Speaker 5: did he just did his arm just explode? Like you
17:19
Speaker 5: know what was Dave Graveki god forbid? Or Tom with
17:21
Speaker 5: Tom Browning? I think were the two his arms like
17:23
Speaker 5: exploded that remember when they were pitching. And this is
17:26
Speaker 5: great that it's not going to miss a significant time.
17:29
Speaker 5: Now significant time is what a few weeks, a few months?
17:32
Speaker 5: I mean, he's gonna have to miss a couple of
17:33
Speaker 5: weeks at least to start the year, right, So I
17:36
Speaker 5: don't know, it's good news, but it's bad news because
17:38
Speaker 5: mclanann has been through so much and he means so
17:39
Speaker 5: much to this team and if they have any chance
17:41
Speaker 5: in the Al East, they're going to need a healthy
17:43
Speaker 5: Shane mcclanann. So we'll see, but this is yeah, best case,
17:46
Speaker 5: I guess scenario best of the worst cases.
17:49
Speaker 1: Can we go blessing in these guys because they weren't
17:52
Speaker 1: going to push him to one hundred and even sixty innings,
17:56
Speaker 1: which is workhorse status, So maybe he I just don't
18:00
Speaker 1: see arm injuries that guys don't miss a month, and
18:04
Speaker 1: a month is not significant when you talk about like
18:06
Speaker 1: what it looked like it could have been. At first,
18:09
Speaker 1: I thought maybe it was an obleaque because he put
18:12
Speaker 1: his arm straight down and then he like put his
18:15
Speaker 1: hand up on his oblique. But he wasn't going to
18:19
Speaker 1: get all these innings anyway, so maybe there's a little
18:22
Speaker 1: leeway here where he can miss the first month because
18:26
Speaker 1: even if he's out for two weeks, two weeks, you
18:29
Speaker 1: have to then build back up for two weeks and
18:32
Speaker 1: then you're able to pitch off the mound. So the
18:35
Speaker 1: less time at the beginning of some type of arm injury,
18:38
Speaker 1: the less time at the end of it. So hopefully
18:42
Speaker 1: they can calm miss down. Nerves are nerves are weird.
18:46
Speaker 3: My only thing is aja, where will the rays be
18:49
Speaker 3: at that point? I mean, you know, let's say he
18:50
Speaker 3: comes back in a month or two. Hopefully they're in
18:54
Speaker 3: decent shape. I just think the Rays are going to
18:56
Speaker 3: have to have a lot of things, or at least
18:58
Speaker 3: a good amount of things go their way to be
19:01
Speaker 3: able to survive the Ale East this year.
19:04
Speaker 2: The division looks really damn.
19:06
Speaker 5: Good, agreed. I mean, you know, Yankees Red Sox are
19:10
Speaker 5: much improved. Baltimore. Now we need Gunner back and Grayson
19:13
Speaker 5: to come back. But the Orioles are good, the Blue
19:17
Speaker 5: Jays should be better, and the Rays are always the Rays,
19:20
Speaker 5: so it's a tough division. They can't afford any many
19:22
Speaker 5: more injuries. The Rays, we know, always survived it, but
19:24
Speaker 5: there comes a point where you're everyone's depth runs out
19:27
Speaker 5: and keep taking hit, taking hit, taking hit, And the
19:29
Speaker 5: Rays didn't go out and do kind of what the
19:31
Speaker 5: Rays have done, which is make trades for younger guys
19:34
Speaker 5: that are controllable that they can mold into what they want.
19:36
Speaker 5: They were kind of counting on McClanahan and Pepio and
19:38
Speaker 5: some of these other guys to come back, Todge Bradley
19:40
Speaker 5: to take the next step, So we'll see how this
19:42
Speaker 5: affects him.
19:43
Speaker 4: But this is a big blow for the Rays no
19:44
Speaker 4: matter how long he's out.
19:46
Speaker 3: Yeah, Because I mean the offense on paper, compared to
19:49
Speaker 3: some other offenses in the division, looks maybe a step
19:53
Speaker 3: behind it.
19:55
Speaker 1: I think that's how it always looks. Yeah, and then
19:57
Speaker 1: you look up at the end of April and they
19:59
Speaker 1: have the most in Major League Baseball. I mean it
20:02
Speaker 1: was just two years ago that they were first team
20:04
Speaker 1: to ten wins, twenty thirty, forty fifty all the way
20:06
Speaker 1: at the sixty.
20:07
Speaker 2: Wins, and then they bombed in the playoffs.
20:09
Speaker 5: So they also started thirty. They also started thirteen to
20:12
Speaker 5: know that year. Yeap, I mean they had they had
20:16
Speaker 5: teams that year, Oh right, right?
20:17
Speaker 4: The game didn't they didn't play anybody. They didn't play anybody.
20:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry that I've I have my pillars. AJ.
20:25
Speaker 3: I believe in strength of schedule no matter what time
20:28
Speaker 3: of year, and it doesn't just go off of the record.
20:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they had a lighter schedule at the start.
20:32
Speaker 3: Of the season, and that can help you because some
20:34
Speaker 3: teams that start off the season with a West coast
20:37
Speaker 3: trip taking on all l West teams, like I think
20:39
Speaker 3: the Braids have that coming up this year. So if
20:41
Speaker 3: the Braves start the season three and six and people
20:43
Speaker 3: are like, what's wrong with the Braids, it's going to
20:45
Speaker 3: be like, well, they played the Dodgers the Diamondbacks, Like,
20:49
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
20:50
Speaker 4: I just started with the Padres.
20:52
Speaker 3: I know that, right, Padres first, then they go to
20:55
Speaker 3: the Dodgers, and then so it's two, it's Padres and Dodgers.
20:59
Speaker 3: But my point is, you know, if they start off
21:01
Speaker 3: two and five, I'm gonna be like, I don't care,
21:04
Speaker 3: They're fine because of who they played.
21:08
Speaker 2: Just throwing that out though.
21:09
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get to the next one. On the Dodgers topic.
21:12
Speaker 3: Did you see this with Mookie Betts. I mean, we
21:14
Speaker 3: knew he was sick, and he's given us more information
21:16
Speaker 3: on what's happening. I mean, he can't keep any food
21:18
Speaker 3: down and it's been a while now, so he's lost
21:21
Speaker 3: twenty plus pounds I think almost twenty five pounds. He's
21:24
Speaker 3: at one hundred and fifty seven pounds now because of
21:26
Speaker 3: the illness. So age, I don't know if you ever
21:29
Speaker 3: dealt with some serious stomach issues or whatever at some
21:32
Speaker 3: point in your career, but assuming they figure this out soon,
21:36
Speaker 3: how much do you think it's going to affect him,
21:38
Speaker 3: at least at the start of the season to be
21:39
Speaker 3: down that much weight, like five pounds. I feel like
21:43
Speaker 3: can be a lot when you're sub two hundred twenty
21:45
Speaker 3: twenty five pounds.
21:48
Speaker 5: That's crazy. I'm gonna say this because I know it'll
21:51
Speaker 5: make crats mad. I've been really dealt with stomach problems,
21:53
Speaker 5: so I can eat stuff, Scott unlike you. I can
21:57
Speaker 5: eat all kinds of stuff. It doesn't bother me.
21:59
Speaker 4: But this is weird.
22:00
Speaker 5: This is crazy to me because Uki can't afford to
22:03
Speaker 5: lose twenty five pounds. He's not big enough anywhere to
22:05
Speaker 5: afford to lose twenty five pounds. And what's also crazy
22:08
Speaker 5: is they haven't diagnosed him with anything.
22:09
Speaker 4: What's wrong. LA's got the best hospitals in the world.
22:12
Speaker 4: We can't figure out what's wrong with this dude.
22:14
Speaker 5: I mean, I know when he was in Japan they
22:16
Speaker 5: said he had a viral something, but what kind of
22:17
Speaker 5: virus doesn't go away? I mean this is like, this
22:21
Speaker 5: is just crazy to me, And we need Mooki back
22:23
Speaker 5: on the field if you're done.
22:23
Speaker 4: I know they won two and oh, but they need
22:25
Speaker 4: Bookie back.
22:27
Speaker 1: I've also never dealt with stomach problems like iron stomach,
22:32
Speaker 1: so I'm on AJ's like. I talk about it all
22:34
Speaker 1: the time because there's kids. There's kids on my baseball
22:37
Speaker 1: team at school that like missed two practices a week
22:40
Speaker 1: because they're sick. I'm like, I missed one game in
22:45
Speaker 1: my career because I was sick one game.
22:50
Speaker 3: And then this is my specialty, is that I didn't
22:53
Speaker 3: miss much, but I did have stomach issues for a
22:55
Speaker 3: long time.
22:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.
22:57
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know enough about his specific medical case,
23:00
Speaker 3: but there could be a billion reasons why there's a problem.
23:02
Speaker 3: There could be a parasite, there could be some type
23:04
Speaker 3: of serious virus, there could be some type of food allergy, whatever.
23:07
Speaker 2: It could be a lot of different things.
23:09
Speaker 3: But they have so much medical like it's so much
23:12
Speaker 3: better things out it is, yes, but it's so much
23:15
Speaker 3: like every every day people.
23:18
Speaker 1: You're an everyday person who doesn't have a medical team
23:20
Speaker 1: on call. It takes time. Okay, make an appointment, Okay,
23:24
Speaker 1: see a specialist, do this test. You're talking a month
23:27
Speaker 1: out at the earliest. They're on it right away, and
23:31
Speaker 1: they still can't figure out what this is. Right.
23:33
Speaker 3: That's the problem for them and for the Dodgers. You
23:35
Speaker 3: know how they're going to approach this. They're going to
23:37
Speaker 3: take their time. They are the organization that does that
23:40
Speaker 3: because they kind of look around and say, we're sweet,
23:41
Speaker 3: We're probably gonna make the playoffs anyway, let's finish injuries
23:44
Speaker 3: suck here because we want to have time later. Gunner
23:46
Speaker 3: Henderson officially going to be on the IL to start
23:49
Speaker 3: the year.
23:50
Speaker 2: That sucks.
23:51
Speaker 3: AJ It sounds like it's going to be more day
23:53
Speaker 3: to day than week to week according to Michael Lias,
23:55
Speaker 3: who runs the front office. But you know you had
23:57
Speaker 3: that side strain from February and he's just not ready.
24:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, it sucks. By the way, crowds them as zero
24:06
Speaker 5: days my career for sickness. Just want to throw that
24:08
Speaker 5: out there, just because mister I missed one? How did
24:10
Speaker 5: you miss one? I don't get it. Just go to zero? Uh,
24:15
Speaker 5: I mean I played through some serious I played through
24:17
Speaker 5: some serious car sickness too. Just FYI as I tell
24:21
Speaker 5: my kids when I don't feel my best. But yeah,
24:26
Speaker 5: this sucks for the Oreoles and for Gunner. It's been
24:30
Speaker 5: a long time. The thing is, that's interesting. I know
24:32
Speaker 5: we're gonna get to Kyle Gibson, but we haven't got
24:33
Speaker 5: an update on Grayson in a while either. That's another
24:36
Speaker 5: one that is he worse than what they're saying because
24:38
Speaker 5: they were just like, oh, elbow inflammation. Then they go
24:40
Speaker 5: out and sign Kyle Gibson, so is that a thing?
24:44
Speaker 5: But the Orioles they need Gunner obviously, they need Grayson,
24:47
Speaker 5: they need both these guys. They need both their g's
24:49
Speaker 5: in there to make them go in a tough al East.
24:54
Speaker 3: And one more, you, Darbys is going to miss the
24:55
Speaker 3: start of the season. We hadn't gotten to that last week.
24:58
Speaker 3: Elbow inflammation preame, so you can see there. I don't
25:02
Speaker 3: know if there's been an update on the competition, but
25:04
Speaker 3: Kyle Hart, Stephen kolek, Randy Bosquaz, none of them, are
25:08
Speaker 3: you darbish?
25:11
Speaker 5: No, no, they're not. It's interesting to see what happens
25:14
Speaker 5: with the Padres, what they do. I'm out there on
25:17
Speaker 5: Saturday and we saw Michael King and Dylan Ceaster one too.
25:20
Speaker 5: But then who's gonna be that third day. That's that's
25:22
Speaker 5: gonna be an interesting battle for the for the Padres.
25:25
Speaker 3: I feel like it's weird, but people are sleeping on them.
25:28
Speaker 3: I know there was some turnover. Yeah, I mean some
25:32
Speaker 3: power rankings I've looked at have them way down the
25:34
Speaker 3: line in the National League, and I'm like, hold up,
25:39
Speaker 3: that's all.
25:40
Speaker 5: I mean, they lost a lot though, I mean I
25:43
Speaker 5: will say that they did. They It's not like they
25:44
Speaker 5: brought back their whole team. They did lose some people significantly.
25:48
Speaker 2: They're going to be the best team in the NL.
25:49
Speaker 3: I mean that's Braves, Phillies, Dodgers, Diamondbacks. Maybe right, there's
25:53
Speaker 3: some other teams that look better. I'm just saying they
25:55
Speaker 3: should be well in the playoff. Makes that would be
25:57
Speaker 3: surprised if they're not even two years ago obviously had
26:01
Speaker 3: the sick team that underperformed and they missed it. They
26:04
Speaker 3: were in the mix for most of the year. I
26:06
Speaker 3: just I think they'll be good and quick update. Grayson
26:08
Speaker 3: is throwing this week, so he resumed flat ground throwing.
26:12
Speaker 4: That's great, that's great news.
26:14
Speaker 5: Yeah, that still means he's like I mean, he's like
26:17
Speaker 5: a month away from being being able to pitch off
26:19
Speaker 5: a mound though, I mean, you know how slow they
26:21
Speaker 5: take it.
26:22
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I don't know if they said
26:24
Speaker 3: the exact timetable, but probably May or June would be
26:28
Speaker 3: my guess.
26:29
Speaker 1: Yeah.
26:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.
26:32
Speaker 3: Other spring training stuff, the Royals acquired Mark Kanna from
26:36
Speaker 3: the Brewers for a player to be named later.
26:39
Speaker 2: Yes, on base, that is the keyword.
26:42
Speaker 1: Or two.
26:43
Speaker 3: Mitch Hanneger was cut by the Mariners. He was owed
26:48
Speaker 3: fifteen and a half million dollars this season. Remember that
26:50
Speaker 3: was the Robbie Ray deal where they jumped that contract
26:53
Speaker 3: and said it was going to work out. And then
26:56
Speaker 3: Manny Margo was cut by the Brewers and he's headed
26:59
Speaker 3: to the Detrait Tigers. I mean, the one that I
27:02
Speaker 3: lock in on is Mitch Hannager because we'll see how
27:06
Speaker 3: Robbie Bay looks this year. He's healthy, aj, he's damn good.
27:09
Speaker 3: George Kirby's hurt to start the year. Hey, you do
27:12
Speaker 3: what you gotta do. But that was a money dump
27:14
Speaker 3: in my mind. We all kind of felt that way
27:16
Speaker 3: at the time, and that's what it's looking like now.
27:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
27:20
Speaker 5: But Mitch Haniger to me, was a great Mariner for
27:22
Speaker 5: a few years. Like he was a guy they were
27:24
Speaker 5: counting on, especially last year to come back and really
27:26
Speaker 5: hit for him and he didn't do it. So I mean,
27:28
Speaker 5: is this how Rowdy got to make the team? Rowdy
27:30
Speaker 5: hurt in other guy's feelings so he can make the team.
27:32
Speaker 5: I feel bad for Mitch.
27:35
Speaker 1: You know, that's an outfielder but if you can have
27:39
Speaker 1: when I mean, somebody's gonna pick up Mitch Haniger for
27:41
Speaker 1: the league minimum I think of the leagu's minimums seven
27:44
Speaker 1: twenty or seven thirty five, now seven something.
27:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can ask Andrew Miller next for the league.
27:50
Speaker 1: Yeah he might know. Yeah I doubt it, but he's
27:53
Speaker 1: doing more important stuff than that. But that's a great
27:56
Speaker 1: right handed bat that you can add to your lineup.
28:00
Speaker 1: Not you know, he might not be the All Star
28:02
Speaker 1: that he was, but to me, you know, he's still
28:06
Speaker 1: He's thirty four years old this year.
28:09
Speaker 3: Can I just make the counter just because we're being
28:11
Speaker 3: realistic here, I mean, the last couple of years he
28:13
Speaker 3: hasn't hit.
28:14
Speaker 2: Okay, so the.
28:15
Speaker 3: Last good season was twenty twenty two with Seattle. Right,
28:18
Speaker 3: he was not good in San Francisco. Seattle brings him
28:21
Speaker 3: over and even factoring in ballpark and all that stuff,
28:23
Speaker 3: he was well below league average.
28:25
Speaker 1: Okay, here's your two four because this is how teams
28:28
Speaker 1: look at it. We have two players who are worth
28:31
Speaker 1: seven hundred and twenty thousand dollars to our salary cap.
28:36
Speaker 1: You're calling up a minor leaguer, or you're calling or
28:38
Speaker 1: you're going to get.
28:39
Speaker 2: Mitch Niger depends which team who's the minor leaguer.
28:42
Speaker 1: No, that's not that's not the question.
28:44
Speaker 5: Also, but here's the question for me. Is you mentioned
28:48
Speaker 5: but I mean, how much do the Mariners owe him?
28:51
Speaker 5: Fifteen and a half apparently, so they just have fifteen
28:55
Speaker 5: and a half they can just give away. See what
28:57
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Like whether they were talking about we don't
28:58
Speaker 5: have any money, but there's fifteen and a half, it's
29:01
Speaker 5: just going out the window for nothing.
29:03
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure, yeah, they offset it with the radio.
29:07
Speaker 6: But also AJ, I mean they clearly said this this
29:10
Speaker 6: bat doesn't look like it's going to be good enough. Yeah, Hey,
29:15
Speaker 6: congratu Christian Campbell, who is the Baseball American number four
29:19
Speaker 6: overall prospect in this sport.
29:21
Speaker 3: He made the Boston Red Sox. That's awesome, Super excited
29:24
Speaker 3: for him. And it actually plays to what Andrew was
29:27
Speaker 3: just saying.
29:27
Speaker 2: AJ.
29:28
Speaker 3: The service time manipulation game might turn into Christian Campbell
29:33
Speaker 3: obviously getting the opening day no and playing throughout the season,
29:37
Speaker 3: but also could turn into an extra first ish round
29:41
Speaker 3: pick for the Red Sox if he becomes a star
29:44
Speaker 3: in season one.
29:46
Speaker 5: Agreed, this was the question. Remember going into spring training
29:48
Speaker 5: and I thought Devers would stick at third base. I
29:51
Speaker 5: was wrong, right, but Christian Campbell put his way onto
29:54
Speaker 5: the team. Bregman's at third Devers is going to d
29:56
Speaker 5: age cost Us at first.
29:58
Speaker 4: Listen.
29:58
Speaker 5: If Campbell can hit the way they say he can
30:00
Speaker 5: hit and do the things he can do, this is
30:03
Speaker 5: a huge plus for the Red Sox and I love
30:06
Speaker 5: I love when young guys get the opportunity, especially on
30:09
Speaker 5: a team like Boston because they have veteran guys around
30:13
Speaker 5: him to make it easier of a transmit transition for
30:16
Speaker 5: him into.
30:16
Speaker 4: The Boston market. I love this and I love what
30:19
Speaker 4: the Red Sox are doing.
30:20
Speaker 5: And I hope he has a great year because you
30:21
Speaker 5: know why I want him to have a great year
30:23
Speaker 5: because of what you just said, Scott. It incentivizes teams
30:26
Speaker 5: to have these guys come up at a younger age
30:28
Speaker 5: and get her opportunity and give them an opportunity because
30:31
Speaker 5: guess what it helps him in the long run.
30:35
Speaker 1: Red Sox. Let him play that. You had a second
30:39
Speaker 1: basement come up a few years ago that struggled the
30:41
Speaker 1: first month and end up being a Red Sox Hall
30:45
Speaker 1: of Famer in Dustin Pedroia So I'm not saying they're
30:47
Speaker 1: the same player. Just let him play. You're in a
30:50
Speaker 1: big pressure cooker. It might be a little tough. You know,
30:53
Speaker 1: he might have a blip in the road learning the
30:54
Speaker 1: big leagues. But you know who said this, this would
30:56
Speaker 1: be your bet MGM Lock of the Year guy said,
31:00
Speaker 1: Pap said, Christian Campbell's making this team out of camp
31:03
Speaker 1: I did.
31:05
Speaker 2: We don't care, I said.
31:06
Speaker 5: You know what I love though, Just what else he is?
31:08
Speaker 5: What did I keep saying the Red Sox needed? What
31:11
Speaker 5: do I keep saying? They need a right handed power?
31:13
Speaker 5: Guess what they got, Yes, Bragmant and Christian Campbell. They
31:16
Speaker 5: got two right handed hitters, right, That's what they needed.
31:19
Speaker 5: They found them. And this is a guy. I'm telling
31:21
Speaker 5: you right now, this is a guy everyone's talking about
31:23
Speaker 5: Meyer and what Roman Anthony is the other guy?
31:25
Speaker 4: Right that?
31:26
Speaker 5: They were left handed guys. When I talked to Alex
31:28
Speaker 5: Kora last year, he said, watch out for Christian Campbell
31:31
Speaker 5: because he can play the infield and he's right handed
31:33
Speaker 5: and we need right handed.
31:34
Speaker 3: Bats out great athlete, you can play the outfield too
31:38
Speaker 3: if need be. And he soared through the miners last year.
31:42
Speaker 3: They did a lot of mechanical work with him to
31:44
Speaker 3: get much better. And it was a steal of a move.
31:46
Speaker 3: I think I'm sure it was Heyan Bloom during his time, right, Yep,
31:49
Speaker 3: it was so. I was a fourth or fifth round pick.
31:53
Speaker 3: That's not fourth round out of Georgia Tech. In twenty
31:55
Speaker 3: twenty three.
31:56
Speaker 2: Nailed it.
32:02
Speaker 3: Hot coinner time. Alejandro Kirk got an extension. Extension season
32:07
Speaker 3: will tend him out. Let's start with Kirk, because we
32:09
Speaker 3: have two catchers on this show. Five years, fifty eight
32:12
Speaker 3: million dollars. The deal includes a six million dollars signing
32:16
Speaker 3: bonus for Kirk and this starts next year. This year,
32:19
Speaker 3: the money is already locked in for him, so they
32:21
Speaker 3: didn't rip it up and start again. He's making four
32:23
Speaker 3: point six mil this year, and then just sign this
32:26
Speaker 3: up over the weekend. It'll take him through the twenty
32:28
Speaker 3: thirty season. There's no options involved on either side. He
32:31
Speaker 3: would have been a free agent soon after twenty twenty six.
32:34
Speaker 3: Now he's not a free agent until after his age
32:36
Speaker 3: thirty one season. And AJ he's the guy Danny Jansen
32:41
Speaker 3: he gone.
32:42
Speaker 2: Obviously.
32:42
Speaker 3: They traded Gabrielle moreno years back, and he's been pretty
32:46
Speaker 3: much a star for Arizona. Last year, Kirk had a
32:49
Speaker 3: ninety four OPS plus and one hundred and three games.
32:51
Speaker 3: Stat Casts has him as one of the better framing catchers,
32:55
Speaker 3: so they like his defense.
32:56
Speaker 2: What do we think about this one?
32:58
Speaker 5: Oh, good for Aleejandro perst of all, let me say that.
33:01
Speaker 5: Good for him. You know, it's weird when you look
33:04
Speaker 5: at these numbers. It's hard to quantify. Krafts could maybe
33:06
Speaker 5: speak on this a little bit better than I can,
33:08
Speaker 5: but I mean, framing is getting paid because his offense
33:11
Speaker 5: last two years hasn't been that great. You know, they said,
33:16
Speaker 5: now he's finally going to get to play every day.
33:18
Speaker 5: What the heck was he doing in twenty twenty two
33:20
Speaker 5: when he had five hundred and forty one at bats, right,
33:22
Speaker 5: I mean one hundred and twenty three and one hundred
33:23
Speaker 5: and three games. I mean that's playing pretty much every day.
33:26
Speaker 5: So I don't I don't understand that. But good for him,
33:28
Speaker 5: he got paid. I don't know, I mean good for
33:33
Speaker 5: good for Kirk. And to me, this just seems like,
33:35
Speaker 5: I don't know they needed to do this. I think
33:36
Speaker 5: they could have waited another year if.
33:38
Speaker 4: You're the Blue Jays.
33:39
Speaker 5: But Ross Atkins and Shapiro have been on the hot
33:43
Speaker 5: seat for not signing Blad. So they're like, hey, we
33:45
Speaker 5: made we signed an extension. Oh wait, it wasn't Glad.
33:47
Speaker 5: It was for ale Kirk. But congratulations, Alejandro. Get every
33:50
Speaker 5: dollar you can. Grab the headlines, grab the headlines.
33:54
Speaker 1: Blue Jays extend, Blue Jays extend blue Jay prospect. Oh wait, no,
34:00
Speaker 1: not Glad.
34:01
Speaker 2: But not a prospect.
34:03
Speaker 1: I mean that was with the with the organization homegrown
34:09
Speaker 1: talent extension for Blue Jays. Wamp womp, not blatty anyway. Yes,
34:14
Speaker 1: the framing, the framing metrics are definitely there. It's something
34:18
Speaker 1: that he was not very good at early, even in
34:21
Speaker 1: his All Star season. His All Star season was because
34:24
Speaker 1: he was raking. He has not raked the last two years,
34:28
Speaker 1: but he's elevated his war, he's elevated his value based
34:32
Speaker 1: on that framing. Unfortunately, you can go and get elite
34:37
Speaker 1: framing for much less than this. So for Alejandro, this
34:42
Speaker 1: is tremendous. My guy's locking in. You don't know what's
34:46
Speaker 1: gonna happen, especially at a catching position. Shortstops they age
34:50
Speaker 1: fine that you know. Shortstops don't steal a ton of bases.
34:53
Speaker 1: Age fine. Catchers, you got it. You can't just you
34:57
Speaker 1: can just fall into playing games. To me, this the
35:00
Speaker 1: catching position. Unfortunately for catchers, teams have been able to
35:05
Speaker 1: find value there in the war of wins above replacement area.
35:09
Speaker 1: Look at Kyle Higashioka getting is getting a contract to
35:13
Speaker 1: pair with jonah Heim. Jonah Heim is one of the
35:16
Speaker 1: best receiving catchers in the game. They have a lot
35:18
Speaker 1: of value there, a lot of value to the team,
35:22
Speaker 1: but also at a low, low price. Maybe the Jays
35:26
Speaker 1: may be overpaid a little bit here.
35:27
Speaker 4: Okay, let me ask you this, what happens when ABS
35:30
Speaker 4: comes in?
35:30
Speaker 5: What happens when ABS comes in next year and you
35:32
Speaker 5: don't have that framing, you know, frame like cal Rawley
35:37
Speaker 5: is what nine for nine? I think every time cal
35:38
Speaker 5: Rawly goes like this, you just know it's gonna be
35:41
Speaker 5: the opposite of what the umpire says. So what happens
35:43
Speaker 5: next year when ABS comes in? Because you say they're
35:45
Speaker 5: not doing it, they're doing it. We should have asked
35:47
Speaker 5: Andrew Miller because guess what, next year we're gonna have ABS? Right,
35:50
Speaker 5: So does this take away the value of what Kirk
35:53
Speaker 5: has brought to the table that was gonna be My
35:55
Speaker 5: other point was that this might not be now. The
35:59
Speaker 5: value not going to be completely gone. We're not going
36:02
Speaker 5: robo umpires. The value is still going to be there
36:05
Speaker 5: because there's you know, two you know, arguments, three challenges,
36:10
Speaker 5: whatever it's going to be. You do have to make
36:13
Speaker 5: sure the umpires still getting it wrong and the team
36:16
Speaker 5: has to challenge it.
36:17
Speaker 1: So there's still value there. But that value is going
36:20
Speaker 1: to go way down, and the value in blocking is
36:22
Speaker 1: going to be there.
36:23
Speaker 3: Sure, okay, but you're getting the prime years of a
36:25
Speaker 3: guy who even last year, for example, like sure, not
36:28
Speaker 3: a great offensive season, but it was close to the
36:30
Speaker 3: league average on OPS plus and for a catcher that's
36:34
Speaker 3: above average because most catchers, but you know, they're probably
36:38
Speaker 3: I think the average is probably in the eighties or
36:40
Speaker 3: something like that for OPS plus for catchers.
36:42
Speaker 1: But again, if the ABS comes in. When the ABS
36:46
Speaker 1: comes in, yeah you're going to have different types of
36:49
Speaker 1: players coming behind a dish a.
36:51
Speaker 2: Little more offense.
36:52
Speaker 3: But my only point here on Kirk is we did
36:55
Speaker 3: see it a couple of years ago, AJ, and at
36:58
Speaker 3: least you know, some of the scattering reports late are
37:01
Speaker 3: front office darling because he hits the ball hard, he
37:04
Speaker 3: does make contact too many ground balls. That's like the
37:07
Speaker 3: simplistic right up that you'll see from some fans, Right,
37:10
Speaker 3: where's the slug? Well, he's got to get more left
37:12
Speaker 3: on it? And you see this a lot with players.
37:15
Speaker 3: Sometimes it does actually blossom and in spring training apparently
37:19
Speaker 3: it's been better this year, and sometimes it doesn't, and
37:22
Speaker 3: the dude never gets off the ground ball ways. But
37:24
Speaker 3: I mean, wasn't Christian Yelich obviously a very different player,
37:27
Speaker 3: But wasn't Wasn't he a guy who had ground ball city?
37:29
Speaker 3: But it was a contact He hit the ball hard,
37:31
Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden he went from really
37:33
Speaker 3: good to superstar.
37:35
Speaker 1: He started driving the ball in the air.
37:36
Speaker 3: Yeah, poster boy for that, But I'm just saying, could
37:39
Speaker 3: that happen with someone like this who has completely figured
37:41
Speaker 3: out his offensive profile? Not yellish, but again I get that,
37:45
Speaker 3: But I'm saying, is there more in the tank here
37:47
Speaker 3: where this could be more of a four to fifty slugger?
37:51
Speaker 5: They hope, so believe, always believe it. The Blue Jays hope,
37:55
Speaker 5: So that's why they signed him with this deal. He's
37:58
Speaker 5: only twenty six, is young?
38:00
Speaker 1: Yep?
38:00
Speaker 5: He came up super young too, don't forget. And he
38:02
Speaker 5: kind of came out of nowhere if you remember, right,
38:04
Speaker 5: So I don't know. Listen, I'm happy for the guy.
38:06
Speaker 5: I'm always happy for players when they get money. We
38:08
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38:10
Speaker 5: We're pro union, we're pro players, so I'm all for play.
38:15
Speaker 3: But I respect you guys for putting that out there.
38:17
Speaker 3: They're like, hey, I don't know, we'll see. It's not
38:19
Speaker 3: like it necessarily looks like a bargain.
38:21
Speaker 2: That's fine.
38:28
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38:32
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38:36
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38:38
Speaker 3: Ronald Kuenan Junior is at plus two point fifty. Spencer
38:41
Speaker 3: Strider plus four hundred. This is the NL obviously, Sandy
38:44
Speaker 3: al Contra plus four fifty, Matt McClain plus five fifty,
38:46
Speaker 3: Brandon Woodrick plus six fifty.
38:50
Speaker 1: What do we like? I love Matt McClean there. I
38:56
Speaker 1: can't get out Contra why because he might not be
38:59
Speaker 1: in the National League at the end of the year.
39:01
Speaker 1: And players, this is a player voted thing. Players, you
39:05
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta go with the biggest name. So it's
39:07
Speaker 1: either a Kunya or Stryder.
39:09
Speaker 3: Contra could win it aj because he's gonna give you
39:12
Speaker 3: a full season. So if he's a top five young guy,
39:15
Speaker 3: doesn't he win it.
39:17
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna say, I was gonna say, Strider
39:19
Speaker 5: to me is the one that stands out at Cunya.
39:21
Speaker 5: To me, they're gonna play him slow. He's not going
39:23
Speaker 5: to steal as many bases. He's already come out and
39:24
Speaker 5: said that. So I feel like I feel like Stryder,
39:27
Speaker 5: once he comes back, is going to be full go,
39:29
Speaker 5: and that dude is filthy when he's full go. So
39:31
Speaker 5: I feel like Strider is the easy pick here. Our
39:35
Speaker 5: Contra is probably the best odds or McClain because McClain
39:39
Speaker 5: is going to get to play every day on a
39:42
Speaker 5: team that just you know, could surprise some people in
39:44
Speaker 5: the red. So I just feel like Strider is your
39:47
Speaker 5: best bet. But there's some other options. This is a
39:48
Speaker 5: tough one because there's a lot of options that are
39:51
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39:53
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Speaker 3: I like all contract value wise plus four fifty. He's
40:06
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40:09
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40:12
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40:14
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40:16
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40:25
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40:29
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40:32
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40:36
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40:39
Speaker 1: did you pick Matt Camp? He goes, well, that's what
40:41
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40:44
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41:12
Speaker 3: Let's first talk about news from Friday, which is going
41:16
Speaker 3: to come out on a Friday night.
41:17
Speaker 2: That is when you put out the stuff that you.
41:19
Speaker 3: Don't want to get covered a ton, But we're going
41:21
Speaker 3: to still give it a little bit of time right now.
41:24
Speaker 3: Julio Arias was arrested what was it, on September sixth,
41:28
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, placed on an admin lead.
41:31
Speaker 2: This is not the first domestic violence incident for him either.
41:34
Speaker 3: So the lead came out and announced that he has
41:36
Speaker 3: been suspended through the twenty twenty five All Star break
41:39
Speaker 3: for violating the Joint Domestic Violence Policy. Okay, so he
41:45
Speaker 3: is technically able to sign with the team after the
41:48
Speaker 3: All Star break. We're not going to talk much about
41:51
Speaker 3: the case. Obviously, this is this is a problem, This
41:53
Speaker 3: is awful. We don't condone any of this crap. My
41:56
Speaker 3: question for you guys is do you think he will
41:59
Speaker 3: ever play Major League Baseball again?
42:01
Speaker 2: Will a team signed this guy? I mean, I wouldn't.
42:05
Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's gonna sign it.
42:07
Speaker 5: And this is not a knock on him personally. I
42:09
Speaker 5: don't know enough about the case, but I just don't
42:11
Speaker 5: think they will. We've seen, we've seen the President already
42:13
Speaker 5: said with with you know another guy that everyone begs
42:17
Speaker 5: why is so?
42:17
Speaker 4: And sown up?
42:18
Speaker 5: And the guy's over pitching in Japan right now, Everyone's like,
42:20
Speaker 5: why is so and so on up pitch. I'm not
42:22
Speaker 5: gonna say his name because people are going to go crazy.
42:23
Speaker 5: So yeah, I just think the President is there. I
42:26
Speaker 5: don't think you know, this is this is a tough
42:28
Speaker 5: it sucks. I don't know all the all the logistics
42:31
Speaker 5: of the case, but I just I'm gonna say.
42:32
Speaker 2: No, said two issues.
42:36
Speaker 3: I just don't think the team's going to be like, yeah,
42:39
Speaker 3: we're going to give another chance here.
42:41
Speaker 1: I'm all about forgiveness, but you got to show a
42:44
Speaker 1: willingness to change something that is different. This is this
42:49
Speaker 1: is serious stuff. Not even knowing anything about the cases,
42:52
Speaker 1: it's serious stuff and it's not just willy nilly. The
42:55
Speaker 1: league's like, oh, well, we'll just hand it out here
42:58
Speaker 1: and not there like that. They set a precedent and
43:01
Speaker 1: that they continue to set that precedent and they continue
43:04
Speaker 1: to keep it. Yes, I know it doesn't look like
43:07
Speaker 1: a long enough suspension, if you know, but I just
43:11
Speaker 1: don't see. I don't see how he gets back in
43:13
Speaker 1: without some serious forgiveness.
43:16
Speaker 3: People can say whatever they want, Oh, well, you can't
43:19
Speaker 3: prevent him from playing. Sure, but these are teams that
43:23
Speaker 3: are you mentioned last week. It's a monopoly teams that
43:26
Speaker 3: are run by essentially one person per team, right, there's
43:29
Speaker 3: a control that runs each team.
43:32
Speaker 2: They don't have to sign anybody that there could be one.
43:35
Speaker 3: There could be one player that just genuinely pisces them
43:38
Speaker 3: off in life, or one player that was mean to
43:41
Speaker 3: an owner and they go, that's my freaking toy, I.
43:43
Speaker 2: Ain't signing him. So it makes sense.
43:46
Speaker 3: So if you're going to complain about anything with him
43:49
Speaker 3: or Bow or anybody else it you then ask each
43:52
Speaker 3: individual owner, tell them to speak to the public and
43:54
Speaker 3: ask them why they won't sign them, because it's their choice.
43:56
Speaker 3: And let me tell you, if it was me, I'm
43:58
Speaker 3: the same way. I'm not say case by case some
44:01
Speaker 3: guys go through crap and then you go okay. I
44:04
Speaker 3: feel like, like you mentioned, this guy has learned lesson
44:07
Speaker 3: from that particular situation, in this domestic violent situation, multiple offender.
44:12
Speaker 2: Sorry, I don't even need to read that much into it.
44:14
Speaker 2: I'm out not for me, and guess what, most of
44:17
Speaker 2: the league's doing the same thing.
44:19
Speaker 3: Not worth the crap that I will have to deal with,
44:21
Speaker 3: obviously publicly, and I don't like it.
44:24
Speaker 2: I don't like.
44:25
Speaker 3: What's been done. It's happened multiple times, So there you go.
44:28
Speaker 3: Other guys, they'll.
44:28
Speaker 5: Wait, hold on, let me ask this. Let me ask
44:31
Speaker 5: this though, certain people that have done things and they're
44:33
Speaker 5: still playing. That's why there's a lot of people in
44:36
Speaker 5: the chat and in general that are like, why does
44:38
Speaker 5: this guy get still playing? This guy still play, but
44:40
Speaker 5: these other guys not get to play. I mean, that's again,
44:43
Speaker 5: we don't know all the specifics of the case, so
44:46
Speaker 5: I can't answer that. So when people say why is
44:48
Speaker 5: this guy playing this guy?
44:49
Speaker 4: I don't know. It's not my team. I don't get
44:51
Speaker 4: to choose it.
44:52
Speaker 5: I'm just going off president when I say I don't
44:53
Speaker 5: think you'll ever play again, I'm just going off past president.
44:56
Speaker 4: It's been set.
44:57
Speaker 5: Guys that have been suspended for this type of stuff
44:59
Speaker 5: haven't usually come back.
45:01
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm naive, but I trust that the investigations
45:06
Speaker 1: that they do are thorough what exactly went in the situation.
45:11
Speaker 1: And you know what, people can call me naive for
45:14
Speaker 1: believing in that, but there is the degrees to what happens,
45:19
Speaker 1: and they have somebody has to make the decision. It's
45:23
Speaker 1: not just a blanket. It's not a blanket statement, but
45:26
Speaker 1: they have major League Baseball is drawing a line. And
45:29
Speaker 1: you know, there's been other times where, you know, non
45:32
Speaker 1: domestic violence stuff, guys have been blackballed from being signed
45:37
Speaker 1: back by any team. Looking at the numbers from the
45:40
Speaker 1: year before, you're like, how is this guy not I
45:43
Speaker 1: get it, he's you know, he can be a problem
45:45
Speaker 1: or whatever, but how does this guy not have a team?
45:47
Speaker 1: This is major League Baseball. This is not everybody gets
45:50
Speaker 1: the same chances. Whether that's fair or unfair to me,
45:55
Speaker 1: I think major League Baseball did the right thing here.
45:58
Speaker 2: But also ad I just think they're a threshold.
46:00
Speaker 1: Right.
46:00
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's a player who's super.
46:02
Speaker 3: Annoying and bad in the clubhouse or gets in trouble
46:06
Speaker 3: all the time, right, And then.
46:07
Speaker 2: They're like, because I mean, I don't know, I'm not
46:12
Speaker 2: going to start calling out names.
46:13
Speaker 3: But my point, I know there are players, you know
46:16
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, right like, and even there are sometimes
46:18
Speaker 3: players who get in trouble and then people are like,
46:20
Speaker 3: I don't understand why he's not playing again, and I'm like, well,
46:23
Speaker 3: maybe there's more to it, not even just the case.
46:25
Speaker 3: Maybe teammates were sick of this person, maybe this person
46:29
Speaker 3: was a problem in the clubhouse, and they're.
46:30
Speaker 2: Like, okay, we're going to add this up.
46:32
Speaker 3: He's just okay, he's gotten in trouble and he's a
46:36
Speaker 3: problem anyway. So they do the math and they say
46:38
Speaker 3: I'm done, so that that's all there is to it.
46:41
Speaker 3: Not every single player in the league is perfect and
46:43
Speaker 3: has never had gotten in any trouble. And also I
46:46
Speaker 3: don't necessarily agree with every player that's been on a
46:48
Speaker 3: team or not so anyway, it's an interesting story, but
46:52
Speaker 3: it's also one where after the All Star break, if
46:54
Speaker 3: a team wants to sign him, that's their right, but
46:58
Speaker 3: it wouldn't be mine my decision, and I just from
47:01
Speaker 3: knowing they don't think anyone's going to sign him, just
47:04
Speaker 3: my thought, that's the prediction.
47:06
Speaker 5: Look at the guy we just we talked about the
47:09
Speaker 5: Blue Jays Azuna, right when he went to Houston, he
47:12
Speaker 5: had his problems, right, all the problems that caused within
47:15
Speaker 5: the clubhouse, in the front office, I mean, right, and
47:17
Speaker 5: in the media. I think teams look at past precedents
47:20
Speaker 5: and it sucks for the players. But you know, listen,
47:24
Speaker 5: none of us are saints. All right, Let's just let's
47:26
Speaker 5: establish that. So none of us are perfect. So we
47:28
Speaker 5: all make mistakes and we are about forgiveness. But at
47:31
Speaker 5: the same time, you know, teams make these decisions and
47:33
Speaker 5: we can't control them at all.
47:36
Speaker 2: Yep. Also they're different levels of mistakes.
47:40
Speaker 3: All right, we're back an extension that we'll do right
47:43
Speaker 3: now for three minutes, since we didn't have time earlier.
47:45
Speaker 3: Justin Martinez, who has an electric arm five years, eighteen
47:49
Speaker 3: million dollars, two options for seven million and twenty thirty
47:54
Speaker 3: nine million and twenty thirty one, so it could be
47:56
Speaker 3: as much as seven years, thirty nine million dollars. I mean,
47:59
Speaker 3: he's early in his nervous time, so he gets the
48:01
Speaker 3: guaranteed money as a reliever. And aj I haven't read
48:05
Speaker 3: a ton into this, But my guess is that this
48:09
Speaker 3: makes both sides happy because of the way that saves
48:11
Speaker 3: are a mess with arbitration. Right now, look at the
48:13
Speaker 3: Kyle Finningen case, right, It's like, yes, in arbitration, it
48:17
Speaker 3: matters more about your saves, where in real life it
48:19
Speaker 3: matters more about your stuff.
48:21
Speaker 2: And if you're a high.
48:22
Speaker 3: Leverage guy, So now the Diamondbacks can use him as
48:24
Speaker 3: their closer for years and it's cost controlled and on
48:27
Speaker 3: his side, he gets the guaranteed money.
48:29
Speaker 2: I think this is awesome.
48:31
Speaker 5: And there's nothing more volatile than relievers. Look at I mean, yes,
48:34
Speaker 5: you have your ones that are really good. Those are
48:36
Speaker 5: the ones that get super paid. But if you look
48:38
Speaker 5: at numbers of relievers, a lot of guys go like
48:40
Speaker 5: this good year bad, You're a good year bad.
48:42
Speaker 4: You're even Andrew Miller.
48:43
Speaker 5: We had on had really good years and had some
48:45
Speaker 5: mediocre years, but then he had really good years.
48:46
Speaker 4: Right.
48:47
Speaker 5: So nothing is more volatile probably than a reliever. And
48:51
Speaker 5: it's freedom for him. It's freedom for the Diamondbacks they
48:53
Speaker 5: know what they're gonna pay this guy. And it's freedom
48:56
Speaker 5: for Justin Martinez because he goes out there and he
48:58
Speaker 5: get pitch and he's like, yes, I have this much
49:00
Speaker 5: money in the bank and I can just go out
49:01
Speaker 5: and throw a billion.
49:04
Speaker 1: No worse, no worse. You don't know if a guy
49:07
Speaker 1: is gonna become a a Brian Shaw who can pitch
49:11
Speaker 1: seventy two to seventy eight appearances a year for six
49:14
Speaker 1: straight years and make it to free agency. Yeah, those
49:17
Speaker 1: guys get paid big salaries. That's very few and far between.
49:22
Speaker 1: You don't know if you're gonna stay healthy. Good for him,
49:26
Speaker 1: he's young. That's a lot of money, and now he
49:30
Speaker 1: can go out and be a closer that if at
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Speaker 1: the end of this contract, yes, he's gonna left a
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Speaker 1: lot of money on the table. If he's that closer,
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Speaker 1: thirty five saves a year, he's gonna get paid exactly.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a win.
49:44
Speaker 3: And for the Diamondbacks, if you're watching them, you're gonna
49:48
Speaker 3: see a lot of this.
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Speaker 2: Guy, a lot.
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Speaker 1: Something they didn't even really happen when they went to
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Speaker 1: the World Series. They didn't really have a dude like this.
49:57
Speaker 1: Now I get it. He struggled throwing makes at the
50:00
Speaker 1: end of the year. Maybe I heard some stuff that
50:03
Speaker 1: he was getting tired towards the end of the year.
50:04
Speaker 1: Last year realistic, realistic. Now he's got another, he's a
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Speaker 1: full year under his belt. He can be that guy
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Speaker 1: for them, along with Ginkle, along with you know, some
50:16
Speaker 1: of their rotation pieces who had to slide into the bullpen.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well we'll get into that maybe tomorrow.
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Speaker 5: I mean, when calarburn Burns is your fifth starter, you're
50:25
Speaker 5: in a good spot that trip.
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Speaker 7: We'll cover that tomorrow.
50:46
Speaker 3: Let's lap and actually spend a few minutes on one
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Speaker 3: more signing that we didn't get to that also went
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Speaker 3: down on Friday. Kyle Gibson does sign, So we'd been
50:54
Speaker 3: talking about guys like Gibson. Of course Lance Lynn is
50:56
Speaker 3: still a free agent. But Gibson signs for one year
50:59
Speaker 3: five point two to five million dollars with the Baltimore Orioles.
51:03
Speaker 3: There's some performance bonuses in there as well, about one
51:06
Speaker 3: and a half million bucks. And AJ Grayson Rodriguez is
51:09
Speaker 3: hurt right now. Obviously Kyle Bradish went down with the
51:12
Speaker 3: big injury last year. They lost Corbyn Burns. Can we
51:16
Speaker 3: sometimes have signings where the guy isn't necessarily going to
51:19
Speaker 3: start a playoff game, but he can get you to
51:22
Speaker 3: that point by eating up one fifty to two hundred
51:26
Speaker 3: innings for this team.
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Speaker 5: Yes, yes, these guys are valuable, and I think they've
51:31
Speaker 5: lost their value. And I think that's one of the
51:32
Speaker 5: big issues that a lot of the players have talked about,
51:37
Speaker 5: is the players that are like this, that are really
51:39
Speaker 5: valuable and can do special things for you, aren't getting
51:41
Speaker 5: an opportunity because teams aren't giving him an opportunity. And
51:44
Speaker 5: I think these guys are valuable. Kyle gives him, has
51:46
Speaker 5: pitched in Baltimore. They loved him in Baltimore. Remember he
51:48
Speaker 5: helped come up with the whole sprinkler and the bird
51:52
Speaker 5: bath thing. So I mean, I love the signing. You know,
51:55
Speaker 5: let's let's hope he's ready and he can go out
51:56
Speaker 5: there and hit those incentives.
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Speaker 1: I love when I look at the guy's Baseball reference
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Speaker 1: page and it goes thirty one, thirty two, twenty nine,
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Speaker 1: thirty two, twenty nine, thirty thirty one, thirty three thirty starts.
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Speaker 1: That way, you don't have to do that to a
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Speaker 1: minor league guy. That way, you don't. You can figure
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Speaker 1: out how to get those innings. You have to complete games.
52:17
Speaker 1: You save your bullpen. Guys that make their starts every
52:21
Speaker 1: single day super value. Here and Gibbee and I've heard
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Speaker 1: he wonted five million, so good for him. He got
52:26
Speaker 1: more five.
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Speaker 3: Yep, no il since from twenty twenty two to twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty four, over seven hundred innings in the lap from
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Speaker 3: twenty one through last season ranks eighth, so top ten.
52:36
Speaker 2: He eats innings and he keeps you in games.
52:40
Speaker 3: And the Oriols have should have a good lineup and
52:42
Speaker 3: good defense behind him too. Real quick, let's shout out
52:46
Speaker 3: Trevor mayshow maybe he'll talk about it later, but may
52:49
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52:53
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52:56
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52:58
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53:00
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53:01
Speaker 2: It's part of the FT network.
53:04
Speaker 3: All right, we're back up tef fam final couple minutes here.
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Speaker 3: We just want to send out thoughts, prayers and really
53:11
Speaker 3: just talk about an awful, devastating situation. News from the weekend.
53:16
Speaker 3: We learned that the Gardeners lost their youngest son, Miller,
53:21
Speaker 3: at the age of fourteen.
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Speaker 2: Crazy.
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Speaker 3: Not a ton of questions or not a ton of answers.
53:27
Speaker 3: You know, the Gardner family came out with a statement too,
53:30
Speaker 3: and here's the one from the Yankees, but he said,
53:34
Speaker 3: the Gardener's Brett and Jessica. We have so many questions,
53:36
Speaker 3: so few answers.
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Speaker 2: We know.
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Speaker 3: He passed away peacefully asleep on the morning of Friday,
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Speaker 3: March twenty first.
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Speaker 2: They were away on I think a vacation, and I
53:45
Speaker 2: think multiple people got sick. And that's about all we know.
53:48
Speaker 3: But also just besides that, just awful, awful to lose
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Speaker 3: someone with so much life left to live. Brett Gardner's
53:56
Speaker 3: a special part of the baseball family for a long time,
53:59
Speaker 3: and just want to let them know that we're thinking
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Speaker 3: about them.
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Speaker 1: It's brutal. It's brutal when this happened to anybody, and
54:10
Speaker 1: when you spend a season with people, when your families
54:14
Speaker 1: spend a season together, the different ups and downs the
54:16
Speaker 1: season for everybody, you know, visiting from North Carolina, visiting
54:21
Speaker 1: from Virginia, as our wives would going into the playoffs,
54:24
Speaker 1: you're kind of like in a bubble, not like the
54:27
Speaker 1: COVID bubble which we were in, but you're in a
54:30
Speaker 1: bubble and you're in a group, like a safe group,
54:32
Speaker 1: so your kids they become close. Like he's two years
54:35
Speaker 1: younger than my youngest son, two years older than my daughter.
54:39
Speaker 1: Like it's stuff like that that you're like, you just
54:43
Speaker 1: you don't know it's going to happen. You don't think
54:45
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. And it was just like it
54:48
Speaker 1: it rocked me. It was tough, awful. Nobody should have
54:54
Speaker 1: to go through that.
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Speaker 3: No, so just wanted to let and our family know
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Speaker 3: we're thinking about you. And uh, it's it's tough news
55:04
Speaker 3: to even cover or talk about, but and you know,
55:08
Speaker 3: privacy wise, they released this, so felt comfortable talking about
55:11
Speaker 3: it here, just talking about what they sent out to
55:14
Speaker 3: the world. But rest in peace to to young Miller.
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Speaker 3: Have gone way too soon. Crappy way to end a show,
55:22
Speaker 3: but awful, awful news for the family. All Right, we
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Speaker 3: will say everyone tomorrow on FT.
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Speaker 2: Love you,