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Breakfast Club Classic - Kendrick Lamar Talks Overcoming Depression, Responsibility To The Culture · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: You're watching the Breakfast Club. One thing everybody is DJ
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Speaker 1: Envy Angela, Ye, Charl, I mean the guy we are
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Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club special guests and friends to the room
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Speaker 1: leader at the New School. When it come to these
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Speaker 1: rappers out here, listen. First of all, salute to you
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Speaker 1: for giving propers to one of my favorite them season
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Speaker 1: of all time, Killer Mike on the Hood Politics record
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Speaker 1: all the Time. Man, that never happens for artists like you.
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Speaker 1: Give propers to guys like Mike. He've been doing it
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Speaker 1: for a long time away before me. You, I'm saying,
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Speaker 1: so it's only right. He's gonna conte continue to do
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Speaker 1: it too. Do you actually listen to Mike like you
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Speaker 1: listening to Run the Jews? Ye, Running Jews Joint. It's crazy, Um,
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Speaker 1: Atlanta man, Now what happened with your album? Album? Was
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Speaker 1: supposed to come out that one week and then it
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Speaker 1: just dropped on a Sunday and then it was only
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Speaker 1: the clean version, and the clean version was taking off everybody.
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Speaker 1: What happened? They dropped? They dropped the um, the clean version.
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Speaker 1: And the crazy part about it is we knew that
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Speaker 1: the iTunes leak was gonna be down for a minute
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Speaker 1: when once they did that because it's a certain system
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Speaker 1: that they put in at the labels to either put
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Speaker 1: it on iTunes put it up, so the date was
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Speaker 1: actually confused and locked it in and locked it off,
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Speaker 1: so the fans was tripping. So I'm sure he's seen
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Speaker 1: that on his Twitter and went crazy. How much time
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Speaker 1: did y'all spend on the marketing campaign, like, Yo, how
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Speaker 1: are you gonna roll the album? Because you can't do
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Speaker 1: a traditional release no more? Yeah, definitely. We We always
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Speaker 1: sits as an entity as far as TD and make
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Speaker 1: our own rules first. And that's been day one. That's
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Speaker 1: been since iTunes, that's been since our mixtapes. So even
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Speaker 1: though everybody's doing it traditionally now, we always had that
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Speaker 1: knack to, you know, put it out the way you
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Speaker 1: want to. And our thing is is is the people
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Speaker 1: gonna like it? Regardless they gonna like it or they're not.
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Speaker 1: So you could put it out, you could put up
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Speaker 1: people on stage, you could do the war shows, you
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Speaker 1: could do radio, but if they don't rock with the music,
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Speaker 1: they're not going to get it or don't talk about
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Speaker 1: the first thing that we heard from from this project
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Speaker 1: little it wasn't your normal Kendrick Lamar per se type
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Speaker 1: of record. Yeah, yeah, So what was the inspiration of
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Speaker 1: our why you decided to let that one go first? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the inspiration behind it was really talking to some of
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Speaker 1: the older cats in the neighborhood and really doing somebody
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Speaker 1: of the norm, uh speaking, speaking some type of positivity
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Speaker 1: back in the city, rather than doing you know what
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Speaker 1: we used to doing period. You know, from an initial
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Speaker 1: content of the record, I always said, it's for some
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Speaker 1: of my homeboys back in on the yard and also
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Speaker 1: the community period. And it was it was it was
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Speaker 1: therapeutic for myself, you know, because sometimes wake up and
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Speaker 1: we may not feel the same on we feilt yesterday.
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Speaker 1: So that was that was the initial wind state. And
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Speaker 1: it did just that. You won two Grammys. WHI y'all
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Speaker 1: didn't show up y'all Purposelyott this year. I had to work.
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Speaker 1: I had to finish that album. I was locked in.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't lose focus. I couldn't go on tour, I
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Speaker 1: couldn't do no awards. I was on a deadline. The
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Speaker 1: aspect to win, because I mean last year you was
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Speaker 1: expected to win. Now I don't. I don't expect nothing.
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Speaker 1: I don't expect nothing. I just put the music out. Now.
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Speaker 1: I read that you started working on this album right
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Speaker 1: when you were finishing Mad City. Yeah, and so it
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Speaker 1: took you like two years. Two years to do it. Yeah, Okay,
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Speaker 1: how many songs did you actually do? Um? I probably
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Speaker 1: did about thirty to forty songs that we actually fought
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Speaker 1: over in the studio because a lot of the records
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Speaker 1: was was my favorite records. You know, sometimes it'd be
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Speaker 1: like that, you may do something crazy and it just
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Speaker 1: don't end up because it might not be as cohesive
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Speaker 1: as you thought. So what happens with those? They'd be
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Speaker 1: for my my ear of my iPhone. There's been a
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Speaker 1: lot of mixed reviews behind the album. Some people feel
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Speaker 1: like you're being too preachy preachy. How do you feel
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Speaker 1: about the reception of the album. I feel great about
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Speaker 1: the reception of the album. I ain't catched the preachy
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Speaker 1: thing because majority of the album is me, me talking
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Speaker 1: about my faults, especially on records like you Ain't Got
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Speaker 1: a Lot of Kicking, Black of the Bear. All these
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Speaker 1: are therapeutic songs for me. I feel like sometimes when
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Speaker 1: somebody's doing really well, because Ken Jake, you have a
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Speaker 1: lot on you like people look at you. It's like
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Speaker 1: Ken Jake is the greatest. Yeah, and sometimes people want
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Speaker 1: to come in and be really critical and find some
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Speaker 1: type of fun. Yeah, all the time. But we're all human,
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Speaker 1: So you gonna find a fault anyway that somehow. I
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Speaker 1: don't don't. I don't run from. I'm not scared of
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Speaker 1: I can't live in fear that. You know, everybody had
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Speaker 1: their opinions or whatnot. I didn't know you were suffering
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Speaker 1: from depression the way you said you was on the album. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: did the industry caused not the industry just to change?
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Speaker 1: You know, it's a drastic change when you you you're
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Speaker 1: around so many different faces, faces that you don't quite
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Speaker 1: understand and mean different people and things are going on
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Speaker 1: back home that it's out of your control to handle.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. People would think that that
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Speaker 1: would take you away. You know, the money that the lifestyle,
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Speaker 1: you're able to take a lot of those people that
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Speaker 1: would usually be from the hood, that you get another chance,
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Speaker 1: taking the places that they would never see. Yeah, you can,
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Speaker 1: but you can't take everywhe it's still stuff they're going
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Speaker 1: I still got family and comfty, you know, I can't
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Speaker 1: I can't put a million dollars and they parting and say,
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Speaker 1: you don't have feel what I'm saying, all I can
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Speaker 1: do is put them in positions where they can find
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Speaker 1: for themselves. But sometimes the lifestyle that they end they
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Speaker 1: might not know how to handle it. They might not
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Speaker 1: know how to handle some type of working world where
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Speaker 1: they never been in. All they know is the streets.
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Speaker 1: We talked the other day about responsibility and how responsible
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Speaker 1: are artists to the community, like as far as being leaders,
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Speaker 1: as far as speaking out against social issues, and this
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Speaker 1: is something that you've always done in your music. Do
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Speaker 1: you think that more artists should be responsible? Uh? Do
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Speaker 1: I think more artists should. We have a hand for
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Speaker 1: right now. But I think every artist should always be
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Speaker 1: responsible for how how they go about marketing or putting
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Speaker 1: their music or how they you know, put their words
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Speaker 1: together because us This is something I didn't understand until
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Speaker 1: I went out on these roles and talk to these kids.
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Speaker 1: They take my music very seriously. So with that being said,
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Speaker 1: I know they take the next artist music very seriously.
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Speaker 1: Sober by this industry now, I real talk because the
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Speaker 1: real life that the artists went through for for kids
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Speaker 1: in this new generation it might just be a trend
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Speaker 1: for them until they go out there and get themselves killed.
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Speaker 1: You feel I'm saying, so how I put my words
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Speaker 1: together me for me personally, it's a strategic way, you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm not just glowing find the streets of whatnot. You know,
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Speaker 1: it's a reality check, but it's for the better at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day. That's why I respected I
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Speaker 1: so much because it was an uplifting song for a
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Speaker 1: lot of kids that usually, especially during this time, we
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Speaker 1: don't see that, you know, and it was it was
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Speaker 1: mean and Charlemagne were talking it. It felt positive, but
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Speaker 1: it felt outcasts in a way that it was different
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Speaker 1: where kids can see that you ain't just got to
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Speaker 1: sell drugs and shooting. It was. It was a positive joy. Yeah, definitely.
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Speaker 1: It takes a lot of gus to put a record
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Speaker 1: like that on your second album too. What was the
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Speaker 1: label's thing when you came with that type of it
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Speaker 1: first single? Yeah, yeah, I mean that was behind it
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Speaker 1: because they know that we came in as business as
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Speaker 1: TDE top Dog Entertainment doing what we want to do.
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Speaker 1: You know, we were selling records, we were selling mixtapes,
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Speaker 1: and the foundation that we have with the kids is strong.
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Speaker 1: It's stronger than any type of number of marketing service
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Speaker 1: that a label can do. So it was behind it,
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Speaker 1: and I appreciate them for that. They never ever came
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Speaker 1: in trying to strategically move my creativity around, and I
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Speaker 1: respect that because on your second album, everybody's looking. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I know what the kids, won't you feel me? I'm
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Speaker 1: fairly young myself, you feel saying I got little brothers.
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Speaker 1: I know what they listened to all day. So it
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Speaker 1: takes a strong following and a strong support system, not
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Speaker 1: only from me in my camp, but the folks around
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Speaker 1: me to say, okay, continue to do what you do.
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Speaker 1: And what was that dance in the video that day?
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Speaker 1: What was that called? That's that's l a coaching man.
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Speaker 1: We go, we go, We're gonna continue to push that one.
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Speaker 1: Where the hell did the Tuparc audio come from for
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Speaker 1: Mortal macause I thought I had heard every Tupac in Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I ain't not heard those vocals before trip. I got that.
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Speaker 1: I got that uh when I was in Germany from
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Speaker 1: this caddy. He said, I got this unreleased uh Park
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Speaker 1: interview and he handed off to me. So what made
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Speaker 1: you listen? Because I'm sure everybody close. Yeah, real, tug.
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Speaker 1: I did my research. I had to see it is
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Speaker 1: this official, you know? First off? So I went through it,
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Speaker 1: play it back and oh yeah, you gotta get everything clear.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, But when you heard it, you felt like
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Speaker 1: he was talking to you or have the questions in
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Speaker 1: your mind or yeah, because the trip is Park was
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Speaker 1: a prophet to be and everything he's talking about, it's
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Speaker 1: actually going on today. You've saying and and and that
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Speaker 1: right there just sparked idea immediately for what I was
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Speaker 1: talking about about. Record. So when you met Park in Cuba,
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Speaker 1: this is the old Germany thing. I got vocals in Germany.
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Speaker 1: What the hell is an to Germany? Now? But it was,
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Speaker 1: it was, It was a blessed and I came about it.
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Speaker 1: And I really appreciate his mother too, you know, for
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Speaker 1: for um giving me, giving me an opportunity to use
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Speaker 1: the vocals, because you know, people hold them things dear.
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Speaker 1: And if she would have stood down and said no,
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Speaker 1: I would have respect that too, out of respect that
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Speaker 1: I have for her and her son's legacy, because the
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Speaker 1: things that he know, it comes from her. You feel
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So either way, it would have win.
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Speaker 1: I would show respect period. Do you read a lot?
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Speaker 1: I always wondering. I'm like, because you seemed like you
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Speaker 1: got you're so full of knowledge and wisdom, Like, where
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Speaker 1: does it come from? I mean my encounter with people.
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Speaker 1: I'm not scared to talk to people. I'm not scared
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Speaker 1: to to interact, whether it's a five year old kid
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Speaker 1: or or eighty year old man. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: Of course I read, but I put it to you
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Speaker 1: like this. I'd rather be interacting with a person, you know,
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Speaker 1: rather than gathering up information, you know, from somewhere else,
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Speaker 1: speaking to a person with wisdom that've been here before me,
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Speaker 1: some more life experience. It's always um. Now, what about LA.
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Speaker 1: You had seemed like you were disappointed with the album
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Speaker 1: sales in LA alone. You feel like they're not supporting
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Speaker 1: you like they should. I think that was top Dog.
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Speaker 1: You don't music actually care about you do the music,
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Speaker 1: and you let them hand. I can't see you in
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Speaker 1: the studio like y'all. They're only about thirty now. Top
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Speaker 1: absolutely got out ready to go shoot up record stores.
10:33
Speaker 1: Yeah he gotta do that. He I mean, he's the businessman.
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Speaker 1: You got to calm Tap Dog down sometimes all the time, man,
10:40
Speaker 1: you know, but he he he knows the music, and
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Speaker 1: he knows the quality of the music. So he looked
10:47
Speaker 1: at it not from only a businessman standpoint. He knows
10:50
Speaker 1: the magnitude of the record. You know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: He's close to it, just like I'm close to it.
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Speaker 1: So if he gets angry about something, I can't say
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Speaker 1: you shouldn't be angry because he has a right to it.
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Speaker 1: We were just we starved together man in the studio.
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Speaker 1: You know, did you ever envision all of this happening
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Speaker 1: when you first signed early on and you know it
11:08
Speaker 1: took some time to get the ball run? Did you
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Speaker 1: ever think that things would be this big and you
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Speaker 1: would be considered like one of the biggest hip hop
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Speaker 1: artists today to be hundredcent real, which I didn't but
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Speaker 1: Top Dog did. That's real talk. And you can ask
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Speaker 1: anybody that's been around us, or if you whoever nor
11:25
Speaker 1: him a long time. He always said, Kay Doves gonna
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Speaker 1: go gonna do something in this game. Way be five
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Speaker 1: and believed. You know, I was in the studio just
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Speaker 1: playing around. You know. He grabbed me and Jay Rock
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Speaker 1: off the streets Compton and watch say getting the studio,
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Speaker 1: do something better with your life, and we're here doing
11:41
Speaker 1: it now. Jay Rock is doing this thing. He's at
11:44
Speaker 1: an all time level where he's ready to blow and
11:46
Speaker 1: break out. And the same thing with him. He gave
11:50
Speaker 1: me my shot. Jay Rock gave me my shot by
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Speaker 1: jumping out into the wolves of the industry and the politics.
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Speaker 1: I didn't have to go through that. I felt mad.
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Speaker 1: I always felt like Jay Rock had a great debut album,
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Speaker 1: but he was like the guinea pig. Yeah. Man, it
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Speaker 1: was so much. We had to learn, so much he
12:05
Speaker 1: had to learn, you know. So by the time we
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Speaker 1: went through a lot of mistakes, I was ready, you know,
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Speaker 1: and Rock was in my corner giving me game, like
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Speaker 1: do this like that, because when you do that, you
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Speaker 1: do when when when you go on this meeting like that,
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Speaker 1: they gonna say this, and you got to stand up
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Speaker 1: for yourself. And that's the gaming game is true. J
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Speaker 1: Cole was trying to sign you at one point. He
12:24
Speaker 1: never told me that. He never told me I wanted
12:28
Speaker 1: to sign yeah, because I think by the time I
12:31
Speaker 1: met him, he wanted to get this. This is his
12:34
Speaker 1: label off off the ground and he was already signed
12:36
Speaker 1: and doing this thing. I was still independent. But that
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Speaker 1: that's that's that's a good, good eye for talent album together.
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Speaker 1: That's also a thing that everybody's talking about all the time.
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Speaker 1: It's always just the schedule issue, you know, once we
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Speaker 1: get around that, that's that's my boy, though I talked
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Speaker 1: to him on a regular You got them extra songs already,
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Speaker 1: you know we do. Y'all got music recorded? Yeah, we
12:57
Speaker 1: do together? Yeah, exactly, But also going back in and
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Speaker 1: continue to work because new songs are so old. We're
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Speaker 1: both grown this artist. Now. When you dropped the Influmouce
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Speaker 1: control Verse, it seems like you were ready to compete
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Speaker 1: and eat all competition. But the Pimple Butterfly, it seems
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Speaker 1: like you don't even care what everybody else is doing. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know what the thing about control is.
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Speaker 1: I think people forgot just off the music that I
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Speaker 1: put out, that I'm actually from the West Coast and
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Speaker 1: the aggression that we have in our music. I can't
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Speaker 1: run from that, you know, whether it'd be a control verse,
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Speaker 1: whether it be Black or the Berry, that's that's all.
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Speaker 1: I'm influenced by. Q. I'm influenced by by Dre so
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Speaker 1: Free on your sugar free. Yeah yeah, respector ship definitely
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Speaker 1: sugar free is in my music, Kim Kunter one of
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Speaker 1: the interludes. So I think what happened was people forgot that.
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Speaker 1: So when you hear something like control come from Kenji Glamars,
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Speaker 1: it's a reminder that you know, I grew up off
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Speaker 1: against the rapp and that aggression are always being me.
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Speaker 1: Were you surprised that nobody snapped back because this is
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Speaker 1: you know, local exercise, and nobody was. Everybody was like,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave that man alone. Yeah yeah yeah, and
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Speaker 1: those who did, they did in a friendly way, very
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Speaker 1: very friendly. Uh yeah, it was. It was cool. What's
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Speaker 1: more important? Love from your peers are our love from
14:14
Speaker 1: the consumers discreeted because I see a lot of people,
14:17
Speaker 1: a lot of musical artists are picking up this album
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Speaker 1: crazy like yeah yeah, uh my fans for show, my
14:23
Speaker 1: fans for show, because those are the people that's been
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Speaker 1: rocking with me since day one, before we even signed
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Speaker 1: to a major. You know how I got out here
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Speaker 1: in New York. Then my first sold out show at
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Speaker 1: so OBS that was just off the love of the music,
14:37
Speaker 1: you know, so they always be number one period. You
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Speaker 1: remember your first interview you did up here. Nah, I don't,
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Speaker 1: I know, I know, y'all out y'all zon me, Charlemagne somebody,
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Speaker 1: but no. But but it was so early that we
14:49
Speaker 1: didn't even have it didn't even go on air. It
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Speaker 1: was on the webisode. Yeah it was. It was on
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Speaker 1: a webisode thing. And and I just remember back then,
14:55
Speaker 1: I was like, this kid is gonna be something. And
14:57
Speaker 1: we were having a conversation never day about who are
14:59
Speaker 1: the best lyricis and best rappers, and I mentioned you,
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Speaker 1: and Charlemagne was like, I don't think he has enough
15:03
Speaker 1: in yet. Still yeah, yeah, because you said he was
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Speaker 1: one of the greatest of all times. Man only got
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Speaker 1: two albums, but some time hearing him snapping some of
15:11
Speaker 1: the things that he said, most artists, I don't think
15:16
Speaker 1: they do y'all no favors when they automatically put y'all
15:19
Speaker 1: with the goats already get of course, of course you
15:23
Speaker 1: gotta have that time. And that's the thing that I
15:25
Speaker 1: say with the word classic and an instant classic album,
15:29
Speaker 1: um me putting to Pimper Butterfly out. You hear the
15:33
Speaker 1: speculation of kids saying that all over again. Prior to
15:36
Speaker 1: when we put Good Kid in matt City out and
15:38
Speaker 1: I always told him, listen to the music a few times,
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Speaker 1: man before we before we start throwing words out like that,
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Speaker 1: even when it's on my behalf, because I want you
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Speaker 1: to live with it, you know what I'm saying. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to be first listening and you like it, or
15:51
Speaker 1: first listening and you have an a pin, live with it,
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Speaker 1: grow with it, because at the end of the day,
15:58
Speaker 1: I make albums that have that type of longevity. If not,
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Speaker 1: I can just give you a whole bunch of singles
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Speaker 1: on record. You know what I'm saying. And I was
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Speaker 1: talking to somebody the other day. I make my music
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Speaker 1: basically for people in the system and in the printer
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Speaker 1: system and and kids in college because they got a
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Speaker 1: number of time to listen to it. So I want
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Speaker 1: you to treat it just like that I wanted. I
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Speaker 1: wanted to be an actual course that you're taking and
16:28
Speaker 1: that you can live with. And I agree with that
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Speaker 1: because like I like to read a lot, you can't
16:32
Speaker 1: just rush through a four agreement. You can't just rush
16:35
Speaker 1: through a forty eight law of power. And that's how
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Speaker 1: I feel with you my head. I hear something new
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Speaker 1: every time, every time every time. And it's supposed to
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Speaker 1: be like that for me personally. Um, everybody don't supposed
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Speaker 1: to do what I do or you know, stay stay
16:48
Speaker 1: in your lane. But as long as I do music,
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Speaker 1: I want to make some people can live with and
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Speaker 1: go back and say, you know what he did put
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Speaker 1: out a classic album. You know how many years from
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Speaker 1: now when you when you keep on playing it back
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Speaker 1: and it makes it's ridiculous. The album first, the album
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Speaker 1: literally came out. I woke up, it was up up
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Speaker 1: at night two hours later. It's a classic. I'm like, hi,
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Speaker 1: y'all figuring out already? Yeah, yeah, And I appreciate the love.
17:12
Speaker 1: I think, you know, for the most part is it's
17:15
Speaker 1: excitement of getting some some a little bit outside of
17:19
Speaker 1: the norm. And I appreciate that. But at the same time,
17:22
Speaker 1: live with it and and learn to learn to love
17:24
Speaker 1: it even more, you feel me. One of my favorite
17:26
Speaker 1: records these Walls, is that about? Yeah? Okay, yeah, that's
17:33
Speaker 1: one of my favorite records too. Who uses but was dope?
17:38
Speaker 1: But who like you know, you were the platinum artists. Yeah.
17:41
Speaker 1: When I went, when I went in the studio, when
17:43
Speaker 1: I said I wanted to do this record, I said
17:44
Speaker 1: I wanted to go in with these specific characters and
17:48
Speaker 1: lock in with them for seven months, you know, to
17:51
Speaker 1: a year. And that was Bloud Um, George Clinton and
17:55
Speaker 1: the Wise, Terence Martin producer sound Wave my in house producer,
18:00
Speaker 1: and uh thunder Cat and Rocky Um. We locked in.
18:04
Speaker 1: We locked in for a year and completed the project.
18:07
Speaker 1: So I already had the mind state on what I
18:09
Speaker 1: wanted to sound like me personally. I'm not I'm not
18:14
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not sold on your celebrity or how
18:17
Speaker 1: many you know records you sold. I'm sold on the
18:20
Speaker 1: actual talent and what we're trying to convey it and
18:22
Speaker 1: get across. So that was my my uh initial idea
18:27
Speaker 1: for making this record beforehand. Oh yeah, for sure, for
18:31
Speaker 1: sure Like old Snoop, Yeah yeah, I laid the skeleton down.
18:37
Speaker 1: I lard the skeleton down because I haven't heard him
18:41
Speaker 1: like that in a long time. So I know he
18:43
Speaker 1: didn't write it. Yeah, that's that's the og. But uh
18:47
Speaker 1: me going in, I just said, do what you do.
18:49
Speaker 1: You know you've been doing it before me. This is
18:52
Speaker 1: what I've been a fan of, you know, So all
18:55
Speaker 1: I can do is directed. I can't sound like you
18:58
Speaker 1: know that's this talent, that's that comes from guy from him.
19:00
Speaker 1: You also did a surprise performance on Callie and you
19:03
Speaker 1: did all of that with Rebuke. You look like you've
19:06
Speaker 1: been working out doing cross fit a little bit. I've
19:09
Speaker 1: been doing some push ups. I don't know if to.
19:14
Speaker 1: I know I know every I know everybody. I know
19:17
Speaker 1: everybody when they signed up to Rebuke, they all do
19:19
Speaker 1: the CrossFit and everything and something I wanted to try
19:21
Speaker 1: because they always took about how great it is. I
19:23
Speaker 1: ain't jumped in it yet. You haven't you going to? Yeah,
19:26
Speaker 1: hopefully I get some time before this tour crack off
19:29
Speaker 1: explain that you was it attracted trail or something running
19:31
Speaker 1: through LA people chasing it? It was everybody run. It
19:35
Speaker 1: was a police chase. It first, everybody running. Everybody run.
19:37
Speaker 1: They had top Dog out there too. Hey, funniest day alive.
19:45
Speaker 1: Oh you see it's a red hat bouncing. No, it
19:48
Speaker 1: was crazy ran the whole way. You know who Noel
19:52
Speaker 1: Gallaghers from Oasis. He they asked him about you and
19:55
Speaker 1: he was like, who is that? What do you say?
19:57
Speaker 1: I never heard him? He sounds like a character off
19:59
Speaker 1: sign Feld. You can't about stuff like that. That's funny
20:02
Speaker 1: to me. I don't care for real, Why why does
20:07
Speaker 1: the d Why you don't do more records with Dre?
20:09
Speaker 1: That would that make the album? So to say it's
20:11
Speaker 1: it's it's a thing that we got going on that
20:13
Speaker 1: we weigh known. It's it's a strategic move. So are
20:18
Speaker 1: you gonna do an album? As if I if I
20:21
Speaker 1: could speak on it, I would, But that man is
20:24
Speaker 1: a scientist and we're gonna plan so that the direction
20:26
Speaker 1: of the third album more Drake production. Maybe it could
20:29
Speaker 1: be how does he help you with the album? Like
20:32
Speaker 1: do you go? Do you do records? And then he
20:34
Speaker 1: you know, arranges them for you. I don't know mixing
20:36
Speaker 1: like what no I do that? I do that far
20:39
Speaker 1: as uh, the arrangements. It's it's really going in and
20:44
Speaker 1: once I completed getting his expertise about you know, the
20:47
Speaker 1: sonic sound of it. You know me personally, I'm hands
20:51
Speaker 1: on with everything you know, and I'm a huge on
20:53
Speaker 1: how it won't something to sound rather scratch the record
20:58
Speaker 1: if it's it's a good record or not. I wanted
21:00
Speaker 1: to sound and feel a certain way, So things like
21:03
Speaker 1: going in and recording on two inch tape and running
21:06
Speaker 1: back through analog him knowing about things like that, and
21:11
Speaker 1: pro tools. What's the difference between it. You know, I
21:13
Speaker 1: did the most majority of the record going back when
21:15
Speaker 1: I'm mixing was through analog, the same stuff for people
21:18
Speaker 1: who don't know what analog is. This is what Marvin Gaye,
21:21
Speaker 1: Luther Van Jofs, what they recorded on prior to pro tools,
21:25
Speaker 1: you know. So it's a little bit more difficult, but
21:26
Speaker 1: it gives you a warm sound. And this techniques and
21:30
Speaker 1: things I don't know, you know, So I go to
21:32
Speaker 1: Drake for that advice. Now that's all. You say that
21:34
Speaker 1: you're the closest thing that a lot of these kids
21:36
Speaker 1: got to a reverend. Yeah, I say that. I said that,
21:39
Speaker 1: and it likes of you know, I got a little
21:42
Speaker 1: brother and little sister and cousins, and they belief level
21:46
Speaker 1: is is at an all time low, you know, know
21:49
Speaker 1: these days, you know, they they they don't believe in anything,
21:52
Speaker 1: you feel me. So if what I'm putting it and
21:56
Speaker 1: putting in in my music, it's an act of God
21:58
Speaker 1: and He using me as a vessel. What makes me
22:02
Speaker 1: any different from somebody being in church and giving their word,
22:05
Speaker 1: you feel I'm saying. So that's how I look at it.
22:09
Speaker 1: Last time you was up there, you said you're real
22:11
Speaker 1: personal and you're real quiet and private with your relationship,
22:13
Speaker 1: and you said you had a bull. Yeah, there was
22:15
Speaker 1: rumors that you guys got engage. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah,
22:18
Speaker 1: definitely congratulations that Yeah, I'm layal to the saw. You
22:21
Speaker 1: welcome to the club, bro, that's right. I just want
22:23
Speaker 1: to say that Tod Dog tell me no relationship questions,
22:27
Speaker 1: but I guess I'm glad he told me. I'm sorry.
22:43
Speaker 1: Congratulations something, congratulate you. Congratulations. I think that's a great thing,
22:49
Speaker 1: and that's a great that's also a great example to
22:51
Speaker 1: have somebody that you're loyal and faith to. A lot
22:53
Speaker 1: of people think it's cool to just sleep around and
22:55
Speaker 1: do whatever. So you know the thing, at the end
22:57
Speaker 1: of the day, you want to you want to always
23:01
Speaker 1: always have real people around you, period, rather it's male
23:05
Speaker 1: or female. And everybody else been around me. They've been
23:08
Speaker 1: around since day one, and I can't change that. I
23:10
Speaker 1: don't change for nobody. I can't run from that. You
23:12
Speaker 1: feel what I'm saying, So I always show respect when
23:15
Speaker 1: I respect it, it's been given and people that have
23:17
Speaker 1: been by your side, you post to honor that and
23:19
Speaker 1: that's how you stand up running around it and not
23:23
Speaker 1: acknowledging it. It's it's it's it's trivil. You feel what
23:27
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So you know you speak on respect. It's
23:30
Speaker 1: funny you said when you made the comments about Ferguson
23:32
Speaker 1: and you said we don't respect ourselves, how can we
23:34
Speaker 1: expect them to respect us? And people got mad at you,
23:36
Speaker 1: But you say the same thing in Black of the Berry. Yeah, yeah,
23:38
Speaker 1: people loved it. I think I think that's just people.
23:43
Speaker 1: Uh Like I said, it's a few times. These These
23:46
Speaker 1: are folks whoever responded to it a negative way, they
23:49
Speaker 1: actually know, understand or even know where I come from.
23:52
Speaker 1: And I can't. I can't knock them for that. You know,
23:55
Speaker 1: I've took a lot from them, from the community. You
23:58
Speaker 1: know where I'm from. My homeboys have and I still
24:01
Speaker 1: deal with it today. So when you when I say
24:04
Speaker 1: things like we need to respect, I'm not only talking
24:06
Speaker 1: about a black I'm talking about myself. Everything comes from
24:11
Speaker 1: me first, you know what I'm saying. I've been in
24:13
Speaker 1: situation and I still deal with these situations today where
24:16
Speaker 1: I have hate towards another guy because he has a
24:21
Speaker 1: he killed my homeboy. While I'm on tour, I still
24:24
Speaker 1: feel that that type of resentment you feel. I'm saying
24:27
Speaker 1: so when I talk about these things, it all has
24:29
Speaker 1: come from me, So me respecting the fact that he's
24:32
Speaker 1: a black man and not hating the fact that he
24:36
Speaker 1: has a different color. That's what I mean with respect.
24:38
Speaker 1: So whoever take that out of out of out of context,
24:41
Speaker 1: you really need to do your research and know where
24:43
Speaker 1: I come from and know the background of who I am,
24:47
Speaker 1: rather than just trying to tear another black man down.
24:51
Speaker 1: And we've seen it with everybody, Malcolm X, Martin, Luther, King,
24:55
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Don't don't don't do that. When somebody standing
24:59
Speaker 1: for some then that's good. You should be behind them
25:01
Speaker 1: and don't try to knock them off like that. Do
25:03
Speaker 1: you feel like messages are better conveyed through music as
25:06
Speaker 1: opposed to like seeing them in the magazines or seeing
25:08
Speaker 1: them in radio interviews all the time because people can't
25:10
Speaker 1: see and feel your sentiments. You know that with this
25:14
Speaker 1: album you talk about singles. Was there a single for
25:16
Speaker 1: this album? Because even with the label, A label was
25:18
Speaker 1: like play with play what you like. It wasn't like,
25:21
Speaker 1: you know, we're working on this record. It was like,
25:22
Speaker 1: play what you're like, Yeah, play with you? I really
25:24
Speaker 1: don't hear that offer. Yeah, definitely. Uh, that's that's the
25:28
Speaker 1: groundwork we deal. We've been building since day one. Um
25:32
Speaker 1: for me, this record, I mean it has potential records
25:36
Speaker 1: on the radio. But that's what I wasn't really trying
25:38
Speaker 1: to identify with that. I was really trying to get
25:40
Speaker 1: the point across or what I was talking about, and
25:43
Speaker 1: m yeah, that that was all for it because you
25:46
Speaker 1: got to have a strong team that stand behind you creatively.
25:49
Speaker 1: The walls out here for radio, yeah, um, probably mama, mama,
25:55
Speaker 1: these walls keen couter course, but yeah, these walls for Shure. Now, um,
26:02
Speaker 1: you roll with some some some crazy guys, top Dog Punch.
26:05
Speaker 1: You know, they don't necessarily speak for you with your people,
26:09
Speaker 1: they're your album dropped. Kanye started putting out pictures due
26:12
Speaker 1: his girl. Punch was like what this got to do?
26:18
Speaker 1: Enjoyed album? Do you ever have to call him and
26:20
Speaker 1: be like, man, stop it, h Now, I don't have
26:23
Speaker 1: to call him. That's that's that's their personal opinion. I
26:27
Speaker 1: don't really be on the social media like that, and
26:29
Speaker 1: me personally, I don't I think that's coincident. I don't
26:32
Speaker 1: really see Kanye doing that because I actually I work
26:35
Speaker 1: with him and he's he's an actual, actually a great guy.
26:39
Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying. So so they're not speaking
26:41
Speaker 1: for you because in my mind, I'm like, in the studio,
26:45
Speaker 1: you can't just post this all right now. But previously
26:53
Speaker 1: you had also said with this album, you didn't originally
26:55
Speaker 1: have like a release that it was just like whenever
26:56
Speaker 1: it's ready, whenever I'm ready to put it out. Yeah,
26:58
Speaker 1: that's what I'm gonna do it. When did you decided finally, okay,
27:01
Speaker 1: we gotta do this, man, when I'm dreamed, dreamed of
27:04
Speaker 1: of concepts and what I want to talk about. When
27:07
Speaker 1: I get get to a point where I ain't got
27:10
Speaker 1: no more to talk about it, it's done. You can't
27:13
Speaker 1: get hard, no more right talk. Yeah, and that's that's
27:20
Speaker 1: how I come about top Press the Button. So did
27:23
Speaker 1: they did you have those discussions like okay, so, um,
27:26
Speaker 1: we got to figure out it. What song is gonna
27:28
Speaker 1: be for you know, a single? What's gonna be for radio?
27:31
Speaker 1: Do we have that or did you just not really? Yeah,
27:34
Speaker 1: definite out not that I recall. Nope, we just what
27:39
Speaker 1: it feel like. You know, what's what's what's what are
27:42
Speaker 1: your sentiments? What I'm trying to convey. And this I
27:45
Speaker 1: always go back to having a good team because I
27:47
Speaker 1: don't I know a lot of artists. It's not fortunate
27:49
Speaker 1: to be in that position. You know. Fortunately I have
27:52
Speaker 1: somebody like Dave Free and Top Dog Punch to too.
27:59
Speaker 1: I'm rolling, you know what I'm saying to get the
28:01
Speaker 1: green light? Do what you do? Do it, say say
28:03
Speaker 1: what you got to say, rather than making it just
28:05
Speaker 1: about a number you feel. I'm saying he didn't make
28:08
Speaker 1: the album or rapping he always clowning like that. This
28:18
Speaker 1: is my final question. The Good Kid Mad City album
28:21
Speaker 1: cover that was your mom's man, Yeah, I think that
28:23
Speaker 1: was like your pops, right Pops. That's my uncle's uncles.
28:26
Speaker 1: So who's the people on the new cover standing in
28:28
Speaker 1: front of the White House? Oh? Man? These these feel
28:30
Speaker 1: the homies from the neighborhood. Um. That cover has about
28:34
Speaker 1: several meetings. So the one general I can speak on this,
28:38
Speaker 1: it's it's really taking you know, people they call negative
28:41
Speaker 1: and people I feel that also have have good hearts
28:44
Speaker 1: and taking them around the world. You feel they've never
28:48
Speaker 1: been out of Yeah, they know you're right about that,
28:52
Speaker 1: you know, and that's a concept within itself, but it's
28:56
Speaker 1: also severn several more, it gets a little bit deeper.
29:00
Speaker 1: We're gonna have a movie for this album too, man,
29:03
Speaker 1: what's going on with the movie with a budget. We
29:08
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us as always fun watching you grow man.
29:12
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, I never forget the first time
29:14
Speaker 1: I met you in that bowling alley. I'm like, I
29:17
Speaker 1: thought he worked there and can't take you really don't
29:23
Speaker 1: socialize now. You know when they say money don't change you,
29:27
Speaker 1: it just multiplies whatever you are. You're gonna buy someplace
29:30
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