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UK Column News Podcast 5th March 2025 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, It's Wednesday, the fifth of March twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: just out of one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, mac Romson joining me today in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: I know actually he's not in the studio because it's
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  Speaker 1: an unusual week. Charles is at home today by video link,
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  Speaker 1: and also Vanessa Billy and Sandy Adams joining us today
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  Speaker 1: as well. A Later in the program, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be covering the litters from the MHRA, some gene editing
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  Speaker 1: in full, and Syria and Africa. But we're going to
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  Speaker 1: begin with conscription.
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  Speaker 2: Charles, indeed, and good afternoon, Mike, Good afternoon all, thank
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  Speaker 2: you very much. Yes, conscription is now a topic that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of moving its way towards the top of the
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  Speaker 2: list of headlines. And we start with a look at
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  Speaker 2: the British Army and how they're changing the imagery to
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  Speaker 2: make it look like we are answering calls for war,
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  Speaker 2: telling in this slide that the medics in the foreground
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  Speaker 2: are the people that the Army has chosen to suggest
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  Speaker 2: that we do need a bit of an underlying message there.
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt the army is not ready for a
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  Speaker 2: large scale conflict, especially not with an enemy that has
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  Speaker 2: a significant maneuver and combined arms capability, like for example, Russia.
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  Speaker 2: But that doesn't stop the constant push for recruitment into
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  Speaker 2: the Ukraine conflict. Now this seems to be beside the
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  Speaker 2: current recruitment and retention issues that are faced in the
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  Speaker 2: United Kingdom. Instead, there is a great push for people
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  Speaker 2: to join in Ukraine. This shown previously last week from
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  Speaker 2: the Ukraine border to sort with a computer game feel
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  Speaker 2: to it and indeed pushing people towards the Ukraine Foreign
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  Speaker 2: Legion here shown on screen. And of course this is
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  Speaker 2: because back in October there was a change to the
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  Speaker 2: law made by the Ukrainian Rada which specifically allowed officers
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  Speaker 2: to be enlisted from foreign nations, which was a change
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  Speaker 2: to the existing legislation which only permitted other ranks to serve. So,
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  Speaker 2: as I say, there's a less of a focus on
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  Speaker 2: the recruiting of soldiers either male or female into the
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  Speaker 2: British Army, but certainly a big focus on the Ukrainian
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  Speaker 2: armed forces. But of course, what sort of reflected message
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  Speaker 2: is that going to send to the people in the
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  Speaker 2: UK Now, the person who's most obviously sort of filled
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  Speaker 2: that void in terms of messaging shown here well initially
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  Speaker 2: at least on the Hope for Ukraine website, in many
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  Speaker 2: ways in which people can be pointed towards joining up
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  Speaker 2: or how it is that you get into Ukraine Armed Forces.
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  Speaker 2: And the former Conservative MP Jack Lapresti, who was formerly
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  Speaker 2: a corporaland the Territory Territorial Army backs of fifteen or
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  Speaker 2: so years ago as a member of the Royal Artillery,
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  Speaker 2: now in very public fashion signed up for the Ukraine
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  Speaker 2: Armed Forces. And again, as I mentioned last week, unless
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  Speaker 2: he has had specific permission from the King, this does
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  Speaker 2: constitute an offense under the Foreign Enlistment Act of eighteen seventy. Now,
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  Speaker 2: the reason I go into the weeds a bit on
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  Speaker 2: the legislation is because this illustrates very very well the
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  Speaker 2: degree to which the Establishment may manipulate legislation when it
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  Speaker 2: suits it, and indeed may disregard it. You'll recall the
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  Speaker 2: remarks of Liz Truss, who actively encourage people to join
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  Speaker 2: and fight for Ukraine. Of course, she gave absolutely no
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  Speaker 2: regard to this piece of legislation. On the Statute Book,
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  Speaker 2: Ben Wallace and Tobias l would notably weighed into the debate,
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  Speaker 2: as did Dominic Grieve, the former Attorney General, who pointed out,
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  Speaker 2: because of the existence of the Foreign Enlistment Act eighteen seventy,
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  Speaker 2: it was not permitted to carry out such an activity,
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  Speaker 2: which effectively stipulates that to join the armed forces of
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  Speaker 2: a nation that is engaged in conflict with another nation
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  Speaker 2: that the United Kingdom is at peace with. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: Russia and Ukraine are both at least on paper, at
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  Speaker 2: peace with the United Kingdom, constituting an offense. But Grief
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  Speaker 2: pointed this out, and this was countermanded by Bob Neil,
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  Speaker 2: who rather egredibly was chair of the Select Committee on
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  Speaker 2: Justice in the House of Commons, and he described it
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  Speaker 2: as being an antiquated piece of legislation and should be ignored.
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  Speaker 2: Now interesting again in terms of cherry picking, because of
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  Speaker 2: course we look back to the Southport clampdown after the
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  Speaker 2: terrible events that unfolded there in the summer, and all
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  Speaker 2: the legislation concerning riot, violent disorder and a fray comes
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  Speaker 2: from an even older piece of legislation. The offense is
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  Speaker 2: against the Person Act of eighteen sixty one. So cherry
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  Speaker 2: picking this absolutely is in deciding that something from eighteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy is antiquated, but something from eighteen sixty one is not.
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  Speaker 2: There's also the hypocrisy here in terms of the use
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  Speaker 2: of legislation to well facts, we'd be disregarded some way.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a slide on now showing how much publicity
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  Speaker 2: the Presty affair has had, but also to point out
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  Speaker 2: that it's to encourage or assist in an activity, or
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  Speaker 2: at least to believe that somebody will conduct a criminal
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  Speaker 2: act is an offense against Section one four seven of
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  Speaker 2: the Serious Crime Act two thousand and seven. But that
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  Speaker 2: also has been disregarded. Looking at the other side of
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  Speaker 2: the coin in terms of the hypocrisy we see going
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  Speaker 2: back to twenty seventeen, there was an older man by
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  Speaker 2: the name of Benjamin Stimpson who was and is in prison.
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  Speaker 2: No sorry wrong. He was imprisoned due to terrorism offenses,
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  Speaker 2: having joined pro Russian Septis in Eastern Ukraine. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: not a like flight comparison. The point is that legislation
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  Speaker 2: will be used when it suits the state, and certainly
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  Speaker 2: not used when it doesn't. But to return to the
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  Speaker 2: issue of conscription itself, what I'd like to do is
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  Speaker 2: to take a look at a video produced for UK
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  Speaker 2: Colin by Montgomery Toms who went into central London to
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  Speaker 2: canvas opinion amongst the youth. We'll just have a quick
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  Speaker 2: look at sit and see what he encountered.
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  Speaker 3: If you were forced to fight against Russia on palf
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  Speaker 3: of Ukraine as an English young man, would you do it?
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  Speaker 2: Most likely not?
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  Speaker 4: Would you fight?
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  Speaker 5: Sir?
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  Speaker 1: I don't have an opinion on political matters.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm honest, it's not political.
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  Speaker 3: What if you were forced to fight and put your
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  Speaker 3: life on the line for this country, would you do it?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough, no one really would know. No one I've
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  Speaker 3: met today would And as a mum to this lovely
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  Speaker 3: young man.
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  Speaker 2: Would you want him to fight?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 3: Do you believe in conscription in the UK?
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  Speaker 5: Why?
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  Speaker 7: Because I want to choose I want to do.
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  Speaker 3: Would you fight for England right now if you had to?
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  Speaker 3: If you were forced to?
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  Speaker 2: Nah?
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  Speaker 8: I would not. I would not for me.
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  Speaker 2: It's not for me, mate.
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  Speaker 3: Young Men should be sent off to fight?
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  Speaker 5: No? Why not?
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  Speaker 7: Nobody should be forced to do anything.
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  Speaker 5: That's the first thing. Then in this century there shouldn't
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  Speaker 5: be anything that should involve the war as well.
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  Speaker 7: So this is my opinion.
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  Speaker 5: There's a good opinion.
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  Speaker 2: I agree, what about.
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  Speaker 4: Yourself, Yeah, I think we live in a society where,
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  Speaker 4: you know, we can have discussions around the table. I
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  Speaker 4: think war is kind of a final option. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we need to go to that, to be perfectly honest.
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  Speaker 7: There are things that could be solved by talking.
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  Speaker 4: We live in a society now where things can be resolved.
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  Speaker 3: So, as I mentioned halfway through this video, the response
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  Speaker 3: has been pretty consistent. People do not want to fight
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  Speaker 3: on behalf of the UK and that doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 3: be changing. And most young people they don't actually know
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  Speaker 3: what conscription is. How to explain what conscription is quite
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  Speaker 3: a few times now, and it just seems that young
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  Speaker 3: people also just very detached from current affairs. They're not
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  Speaker 3: too interested in politics, they're not too interested in left
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  Speaker 3: or right.
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  Speaker 2: So, first of all, a huge amount of naivety, bearing
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  Speaker 2: in mind how quickly conscription was actually jacked up back
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  Speaker 2: in nineteen thirty nine, with all the various acts that
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  Speaker 2: are passed now. That's a part of a longer video
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  Speaker 2: which I really would encourage you to go and watch
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  Speaker 2: on the UK Column website, and also i'd point you
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  Speaker 2: towards the UK Column extracts channel, which is in this
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  Speaker 2: instance on x also on telegram, because all of these
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  Speaker 2: reports are split up for you to be able to
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  Speaker 2: share and view as individual elements, which is a great
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  Speaker 2: way to spread UK Column content, of course. But the
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  Speaker 2: question that comes out of this and out of Monty's
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  Speaker 2: video is really what will change in order to alter
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  Speaker 2: the course of the public opinion of this generation. And
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  Speaker 2: we saw five years ago how behavioral tendencies of people
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  Speaker 2: were changed en Mass by the confection of what was
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  Speaker 2: described as an emergency. What is going to happen to
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  Speaker 2: change public opinion with regard to conscription and war?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles. So we'll be top about this in
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  Speaker 1: extra particularly the issue of whether legislation can be ignored
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  Speaker 1: or not just because it happens to be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit older. But Vanessa, let me welcome you to the
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  Speaker 1: program and let's talk a little bit about Iran. And
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  Speaker 1: I think we're going to kick off with people that
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  Speaker 1: have been to Lebanon recently related to Iran, I suppose,
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  Speaker 1: but what happened to.
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  Speaker 5: Them, Well, we're talking specifically about doctor David Miller, who,
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  Speaker 5: of course people will know from the last UK Column
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  Speaker 5: Live event. So let's just play the video where he
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  Speaker 5: explains exactly what happened to him when he came back
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  Speaker 5: from Scientists and Nasrulla's funeral in Beyroute.
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  Speaker 9: So I was detained on the Schedule saving of the
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  Speaker 9: Terrorism Act when I came back from Beirut on Monday night,
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  Speaker 9: the twenty fourth. And the reason for that was, of course,
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  Speaker 9: because I'd been at the funeral for say It Tassan
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  Speaker 9: Macerella in Berout and I had posted on x a
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  Speaker 9: number of posts about my experience at the funeral with
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  Speaker 9: shots of the actual ceremony itself. As a result, zion
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  Speaker 9: Is Twitter went absolutely crazy, started mass reporting me to
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  Speaker 9: the police. Anonymous trolls, known personalities zion This lobby groups
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  Speaker 9: all calling for me to be stopped and detained under
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  Speaker 9: Schedule seven, and then the Daily Mail just after midnight,
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  Speaker 9: and then the Telegraph later on that day, and the
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  Speaker 9: Telegraph had a quote from Robert Jenerick, the former Housing
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  Speaker 9: minister who called for me to be arrested, said I
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  Speaker 9: was supporting terrorism and wasn't even hiding my anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 9: And of course Robert Jenerick has form in this regard
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  Speaker 9: courses for ractical Zionists and he tried to get me
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  Speaker 9: sacked from my job at the University of Bristol, in
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  Speaker 9: which he was partially successful. So that's why I was
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  Speaker 9: stopped and detained under scheduled seven, because the Zionist bounced
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  Speaker 9: the police into doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, Section seven was the section that I was
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  Speaker 5: also detained under a couple of years ago. And this
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  Speaker 5: is basically lightly onto this oral statement by the Security
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  Speaker 5: Minister Dan jrvis today or yesterday sorry, in which he
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  Speaker 5: announced that they will place the whole of the Iranian state,
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  Speaker 5: including the intelligence agencies the Republican Guard, onto the enhance
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  Speaker 5: etier of the new Foreign Influence Registration Scheme FRS, which
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  Speaker 5: is very similar to the Foreger scheme in the US
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  Speaker 5: the Foreign Agent Registration Act. In his statement, he said, basically,
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  Speaker 5: the director of the MI five recently stated that since
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  Speaker 5: the start of twenty twenty two, the UK has responded
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  Speaker 5: to twenty Iran backed plots presenting potentially lethal threats to
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  Speaker 5: British citizens and UK residents. Well, I'm sure people would
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  Speaker 5: like more details on that. I'm also sure that people
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  Speaker 5: are going to get zero details on what exactly those
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  Speaker 5: supposed threats were. And he went on to say, this
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  Speaker 5: action will mean that those that are directed by Iran
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  Speaker 5: to conduct activities in the UK such as mid or proxy.
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  Speaker 5: So he leaps immediately to the accusation that will be
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  Speaker 5: levied at anyone that has connections to Iran in the
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  Speaker 5: UK must register that activity, whatever it is, all face
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  Speaker 5: five years in prison. So this of course means people
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  Speaker 5: like David Miller and others who are presenting a show
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  Speaker 5: in the UK that is effectively on behalf of prestv
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  Speaker 5: Uranian State TV are going to have to register their activities.
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  Speaker 5: So you know, the crackdown on dissent and the challenging
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  Speaker 5: of UK establishment narratives continues, and the ramping up of
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  Speaker 5: antagonism against Iran.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for ness, And of course the justification for
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  Speaker 1: all this is national security. And well you'd be glad
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  Speaker 1: to know that the College for National Security has begun
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  Speaker 1: a program of awareness sessions for civil servants here in
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  Speaker 1: the UK to both they say, understanding of the national
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  Speaker 1: security situation and also of this new body, the College
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  Speaker 1: for National Security and the importance of national security across
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  Speaker 1: the civil service. Now, the first awareness event is going
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  Speaker 1: to be held in Edinburgh on the nineteenth of March
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  Speaker 1: and future similar events are going to be held in Cardiff,
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  Speaker 1: Bristol and other cities in the following months. And now
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  Speaker 1: this is Andrew Miller here. He's the head of the
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  Speaker 1: College for National Security. He said that national security is
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  Speaker 1: foundational for all of the government's key missions and that
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  Speaker 1: makes our own drive to increase awareness of its importance
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  Speaker 1: and impact even more pressing. Okay, well, the College for
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  Speaker 1: National Security recently launched a new online course and it's
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  Speaker 1: called what is National Security? And they are claiming that
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  Speaker 1: this will break down barriers, sorry, breakdown barriers to understanding
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  Speaker 1: national security threats and to help civil servants integrate considerations
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  Speaker 1: related to national security into their jobs. So we should
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  Speaker 1: make no mistake that this is all representing a pretty
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  Speaker 1: fundamental shift in the approach to the governance of this country.
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  Speaker 1: Government department right across government are being placed effectively onto
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  Speaker 1: a war footing. And there is one publicly available document
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  Speaker 1: from the College, and that is the twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: Guide to the National Security Community, and I recommend everybody
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  Speaker 1: reads this. It's very interesting. It makes clear how national
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  Speaker 1: security is being placed right at the heart of every
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  Speaker 1: significant government department, as you just mentioned, and there's a
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  Speaker 1: series of kiss studies documented. So, for example, the Department
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  Speaker 1: for Science and Technology has this to say. In March
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two hoax calls made to ministers from individuals
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  Speaker 1: purporting to be the Ukrainian Prime Minister were uploaded to YouTube. And now,
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  Speaker 1: of course the most famous of this was Ben Wallace,
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  Speaker 1: as Patrick and I were talking about on Friday. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: their statement goes on to say these were publicly attributed
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  Speaker 1: to the Russian state by number ten. In immediate briefing
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  Speaker 1: following this, the kind of Counter Disinformation Unit, which was
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  Speaker 1: previously part of DCMS but has moved to the Department
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  Speaker 1: of Science Technology, engaged with YouTube to secure the removal
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  Speaker 1: of the videos. So here we have a clear acknowledgment
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  Speaker 1: that government is directly intervening with YouTube to get content
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  Speaker 1: that it doesn't feel as appropriate taken off. They went
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  Speaker 1: on to say this was the basis. This was on
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  Speaker 1: the basis that they were part of a Russian information
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  Speaker 1: and influence operation designed to achieve strategic advantage by attempting
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  Speaker 1: to embarrass the UK government and undermine its support for Ukraine.
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  Speaker 1: When YouTube was unable to identify the state link and
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  Speaker 1: therefore breach the breach in their terms of service. The
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  Speaker 1: Counter Disinformation Unit facilitated engagement, including via the declassification of
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  Speaker 1: relevant intelligence. So that's that example. The Department of Transport
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  Speaker 1: then saying that over the last decade been several attempts
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  Speaker 1: to attack planes using concealed devices in hand luggage. One
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  Speaker 1: specific case, we worked with scientific experts to confirm the
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  Speaker 1: device's viability, use those results to develop new security measures
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  Speaker 1: and mitigate the risk, and introduce new domestic and international
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  Speaker 1: travel security procedures. And then GCHQ, well, there are some
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  Speaker 1: case studies for that, and I recommend you read them,
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  Speaker 1: but I wanted here to focus on this on the
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  Speaker 1: legal framework they operate under it because they said the
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  Speaker 1: Intelligence Services Act nineteen ninety four sets o GCHQ's function
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  Speaker 1: as a foreign focused signals intelligence agency, and I just
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  Speaker 1: want to point out that that would seem to be
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  Speaker 1: incompatible with the integrated operating concept, which is military doctrine
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  Speaker 1: in the UK at the moment, and which removes the
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  Speaker 1: distinction between foreign and domestic focus. And as we reported
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  Speaker 1: in the past, we should keep in mind at seventy
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  Speaker 1: seven Brigade, which was claimed by the government to only
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  Speaker 1: operate on foreign shores was retasked domestically on a whim
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  Speaker 1: during COVID, So I'm uncertain whether we should accept the
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  Speaker 1: implication of this initial claim by the GCHQ. The second
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  Speaker 1: thing that they say here is that the Investigatory Pars
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  Speaker 1: Act twenty sixteen governs the use and oversight of investigatory
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  Speaker 1: pars by law enforcement and the security and intelligence agencies.
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  Speaker 1: But as we've been talking about over the last a
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  Speaker 1: few weeks, the amendments to the Investigatory Pars Act basically
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  Speaker 1: forbits them to do all kinds of unpleasant things. And
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  Speaker 1: so I encourage everybody to read that document. It'll be
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  Speaker 1: available in the show notes, and we'll have more to
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  Speaker 1: say about this an extra as well. Sandy. Let me
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  Speaker 1: welcome you to the program. What have you got for
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  Speaker 1: us on following on from Bryan's report on Ukraine on Monday?
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  Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Mike. Well, I've been looking really at,
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  Speaker 7: you know, what's happened in social media this week. We
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  Speaker 7: sort of saw what happened in twenty twenty with COVID,
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  Speaker 7: and it's almost as though the war in Ukraine and
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  Speaker 7: the trump Zelensky theater show is really triggered people is
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  Speaker 7: become almost the COVID two point zero. We have to
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  Speaker 7: remember that it's the interest of the deep state keepers
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  Speaker 7: all divided. I mean, I've had people arguing all the time,
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  Speaker 7: and it's important we don't fall for that bait. So
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  Speaker 7: I thought it would be just good to remind ourselves
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  Speaker 7: of the cover up of corporate profiteering going on in
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  Speaker 7: Ukraine and the real reason for this devastating and corrupt war. Obviously,
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  Speaker 7: we know Starmer has just agreed to send more UK
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  Speaker 7: taxpayers money to Ukraine this week, investments so far to
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  Speaker 7: over twelve billions since twenty twenty two, in the alleged
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  Speaker 7: help in their fight for democracy. Most of this money,
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  Speaker 7: as we know, isn't actually going to Ukraine at all. Instead,
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  Speaker 7: it's being funneled into the pockets of defense contractors, multinational
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  Speaker 7: corporations and financial giants like that Black Rock. This is
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  Speaker 7: a racket. I mean, it's a system designed to enrich
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  Speaker 7: the elites while keeping Ukraine in a cycle of war,
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  Speaker 7: debt and economic servitude. Sadly, so where's the money actually going? Well,
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  Speaker 7: it's interesting, I think we've got another slide for this.
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  Speaker 7: US has committed over one hundred and thirteen billion in
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  Speaker 7: so called aid Ukraine. But there's what Senate Majority Minority
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  Speaker 7: Minority Leader, sorry Mitch McConnell admitted some time ago, is
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: that the money we're sending isn't really going to Ukraine.
• 19:26
  Speaker 7: It's going to American defense manufacturers. So in other words,
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: this money is flowing straight into the US military industrial complex.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: And you know, this is what we've got. We've got
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: Lockheed Martin, north Rock, Wooman, Raathon, Boeing, and General Dynamics
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: all receiving massive military contracts. And as this week, as
• 19:51
  Speaker 7: you know, I know, the talism Or Sales Group have
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: taken on a contract in Belfast to to make munitions
• 20:02
  Speaker 7: for for Ukraine. This war isn't just about Ukraine. It's
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: it's big business for the American war machine. Sadly, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: as war rages on, what happens after the war, well
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: that's where even bigger profits come in. Blackpropers already signed
• 20:19
  Speaker 7: agreements with the Ukrainian government to advise all the post
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: war reconstruction. They're helping structure investment funds to build Ukraine.
• 20:28
  Speaker 7: But it's not charity obviously, Black Crop and its investors
• 20:31
  Speaker 7: will control How are you building funds going to be
• 20:34
  Speaker 7: spent and who benefits. This means major Western corporations will
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: seize control of the Ukraine's post war economy. So you
• 20:43
  Speaker 7: know it's taxpayer money will will fund it, but corporations
• 20:48
  Speaker 7: will profit. I mean, this is this is what happens unfortunately,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: and so it's all being sold to the highest bidder.
• 20:56
  Speaker 7: So you know, how how does it work? Well, Ukraine's
• 20:59
  Speaker 7: economy is devastated. It can't repay the billions in loans
• 21:03
  Speaker 7: from the US, EU, the IMF and the World Bank.
• 21:06
  Speaker 7: And that's the whole point. These loans aren't really designed
• 21:09
  Speaker 7: to be repaid at all. They're designed to keep Ukraine
• 21:12
  Speaker 7: under Western economic control forever. And how it works is that,
• 21:17
  Speaker 7: you know, Ukraine takes on massive debt in exchange, Ukraine
• 21:20
  Speaker 7: is forced to sell off its national resources, farmland, energy,
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: infrastructure to foreign foreign corporations and when it defaults, is
• 21:28
  Speaker 7: economy is how died over to the Western financial institutions
• 21:31
  Speaker 7: and multinational corporations that have bailed them out. You know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: this is this is how it works. It's the same
• 21:37
  Speaker 7: IMF debt trap that's been used in Latin America, Africa,
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: Eastern Europe and Iraq. So you know, Ukraine isn't being saved.
• 21:45
  Speaker 7: It's been colonized by economic means. And that's that's that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: really where it ends. Now. You know who owns the Ukraine? Now,
• 21:57
  Speaker 7: one of the biggest conditions of these loans, it's to
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: sell out its farmland to foreign corporations. Ukraine has the
• 22:03
  Speaker 7: richest farmland in Europe, the bread basket, basket of Europe.
• 22:08
  Speaker 7: And you know Monsanto now Baya, you know, buying it up,
• 22:12
  Speaker 7: DuPont Cargo, three of the biggest agribusiness firms in the
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: whole world. And who owns big shares and all of
• 22:19
  Speaker 7: these black rock is black crop again? Right now, thirty
• 22:23
  Speaker 7: percent of Ukraine's farmland is already owned by foreign corporations,
• 22:26
  Speaker 7: the same Western powers funding Ukraine's war and are taking
• 22:30
  Speaker 7: its land. Five hundred thousand Ukrainians have died in this war.
• 22:34
  Speaker 7: And did they die so their land could be taken
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: by Monsanto? I don't think so. We've got NATO's expansion.
• 22:41
  Speaker 7: You know, weapons manufacturers have been pushing the NATO's expansion
• 22:45
  Speaker 7: for decades, and the arms industry has lobbied for Eastern
• 22:48
  Speaker 7: European countries to join NATO. So more more members, more
• 22:52
  Speaker 7: defense spending, more profit. You know, this is how it works.
• 22:56
  Speaker 7: You know, it's used as a massive wealth transfer post
• 23:00
  Speaker 7: for a reconstruction will make black Rock and Western corporations
• 23:02
  Speaker 7: even richer. Meanwhile, you know Ukraine is being bled dry
• 23:09
  Speaker 7: war debt, then privatization, and the same corporation's profiting from
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Ukraine today will push for the next wall tomorrow. That's
• 23:16
  Speaker 7: just how it works. Meanwhile, Starmer's has agreed that Tharlis
• 23:21
  Speaker 7: or Talis is set to manufacture these weapons East Belfast.
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: Russia had previously warned against military a to Ukraine from
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: the UK, and may perceive the new factory is a
• 23:32
  Speaker 7: direct threat. You know they I doubt if they'd you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 7: use it. You know, a direct attack would trigger NATO's
• 23:39
  Speaker 7: Article five. However, hybrid warfare, cyber tax economy, you know,
• 23:43
  Speaker 7: economic retaliation, political subversion is far more probable. And two
• 23:48
  Speaker 7: years ago people in Belfast did protest against any of
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: the weapons manufactured by Tyler's and I wonder if they'll
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: keep up this pressure. Let's hope they do. Meanwhile, our
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: Defense secretary is off to Washington to talk about peace.
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: The highly profitable rebuilding of Ukraine I'm sure. So that's
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: my final words on that one.
• 24:10
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  Speaker 1: data that Britain has the data, they claim, the institutions
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  Speaker 1: National Data Library, which was announced as part of Starmer's
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  Speaker 1: AI Opportunities Action Plan, And in this report, Blair describes or.
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  Speaker 1: The authors described the UK's data infrastructure as fragmented and
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  Speaker 1: or sorry most valuable to collect given AIS capabilities. And
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  Speaker 1: adoption is held back. But the Data Library represents an opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: to unlock the value of public sector of data, alongside
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  Speaker 1: breakthrough insights, whatever that means. Instead of a complicated web
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  Speaker 1: of systems and slow one off approvals, the National Data
• 30:36
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  Speaker 1: It's a topic that I've been warning about for years.
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  Speaker 1: And the Data Use and Access Bill, which is a
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  Speaker 1: value anymore, at least as far as some of the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: people that it seemed to be weedling their way into
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: the British government, the United States government, the European governments
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  Speaker 1: are concerned. So we will have more to talk on
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: this a little later as well. Just put the Data
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Use and Access Bill up on screen again to remind
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: everybody about this should be one of our top priorities,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: I think at the moment, and it enables so much
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: of the digital ID infrastructure that's required for what's coming.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: Let's go back to international affairs and Vanessa, what's the
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Balganization of Syria? Is really something that you've been talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: about since the takeover before Christmas, But where's it at
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: at the moment?
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Well, I mean the partitioning plan for Syria, which of
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: course was mentioned by John Kerry back in twenty sixteen
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: as being Plan B is now swiftly becoming Plan A,
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: and Syria, you know, with everything that's going on, is
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: now also becoming the key focal point for the competition
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: between Israeli expansionism and Turkish neo Ottoman expansionism. Israel has
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: recently put out a statement refusing HGS presence in the
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: southern areas of Syria that Israel has now annexed and occupied,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: and effectively threatening HTS with military aggression should they infringe
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: upon the Israeli occupied territories south of Damascus and recently
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: very close to Damascus, in the area of Jeremana, which
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: is also close to the let's say, pivotal Shia Muslim
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: pilgrimage site s Dozina. There have been clashes between HTS
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: and the Druze minority factions that appear to some degree
• 33:23
  Speaker 5: to have been manufactured or orchestrated in order to enable
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: Israel to intervene ostensibly on behalf of the DRUS and
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: Israel has put out warnings against the HGS junta in Damascus,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: warning them against attacking the Druze factions. As tensions simmer
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: near Damascus, Netanyahu and Israel Katz, the current Defense Minister,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: have also put out statements saying we will not allow
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: the Islamist regime Syria to harm the Drews. If the
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: regime harms them, it will face consequences from US Israel.
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: And of course what this is is Israel basically hijacking
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: any kind of confrontation between the DRUS and HTS in
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: order to advance their own interests and to come nearer
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: or closer to Damascus itself. So this was put out
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: on telegram by the Cradle. Three hours ago, is Raeli
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: Prime Minister Benjamin Latimiani released a statement in support of
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: the newly formed Swayed that military council buying to defend
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: the majority Drew city of jerremana southeast of Damascus, against
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: the extreme Islamic regime of hiatarial Sham. The statement came
• 34:44
  Speaker 5: just after clashes were reported, and local sources have suppotted
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: trucks with Israeli and Drew flags carrying so called a
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: in Swayeda. Multiple convoys of trucks have entered from the
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: southern Israeli occupied territories in as far as northern Dada.
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: Sources claim HGS fight as reportedly withdrew after Israeli drets
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: and drones were seen in the area. So Israel basically
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: flexis muscle in order to force HDS to withdraw, or,
• 35:12
  Speaker 5: of course, as I said, this is potentially orchestrated to
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: allow Israel to advance. This was put out on x
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Israel is now advancing thirteen kilometers deep into Syria in
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: Mattel almal Peek in the Dada governorate. So this is
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: north of Dada, advancing further than they had before where
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: Assyrian military post once stood. Israel has also been bombing
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: these areas to finally destroy remnants of Syrian Arabami positions
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: and air defense, both in the south and on the coast.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: Israeli bulldovers were also heard in the area as well
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: as helicopters and drones. Military vehicles were seen.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: In the nearby town of Mashada and on a road
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: to the Syrian Alpaiha village, all of this north of
• 35:56
  Speaker 6: Durah and again coming much closer to Jamascus itself.
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: This is just a photo of the Israeli forces digging
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: in in these areas in building fortifications and military fortifications,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: and if we have a quick look at the map,
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: this was supposedly published in Hebrew media, but I didn't
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: actually find it there. But it does show very clearly
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: how the Zionist forces imagine advancing to Jeremana. On the
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: back of in the green the two arrows say, showing
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: the Druz militant advances and reinforcements sent into Jerremana, which
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: you can see is extremely close to the capitol itself. However,
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: certain Drew's factions that have remained loyal basically to the
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: integrity at Syria have put out a statement. Shaikhamud al
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Hinawi of SUEDO said that the Druz community did not
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: bear responsibility for Natanyahu's statements, claiming he wants to protect
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: the Druz community through a complete demilitarization of the South
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: and that they reject any ties with Netanyahu. Also began
• 37:07
  Speaker 5: that suggests to me that certain factions were orchestrating this
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: conflict in German in order to facilitate the advance of
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: the Israeli forces. Of course, all with the tacit approval
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: of Algiolani and HTS. Now this is quite interesting. This
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: is in the Syrian Observer, Israel's strategic ambitions in Syria
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: fragmentation vorganization, the David Corridor and confrontation with Turkey. So,
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: as I said, Israel is now waking up to the
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: fact that it does face competition over the control of
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: Syria from Turkey and from Erdowan and his Neo Ottoman ambitions.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: This is effectively what is known as a David corridor.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: So what Israel is going to attempt to do is
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: to take control of the areas in the south and
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: then basically extend the corridor up the eastern flank of
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Syria on the borders with Jordan Andrew Rock and you'll
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: see they're also the Altani, the largest US unlawful military
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: based in Syria. With the potential that Israel could replace
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: the Sorry, could I just go back to that map
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: for one second, could replace the US military presence there
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: with Israeli settlers, and then to basically join the US
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: managed or control Kurdish sectors in the northeast that also
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: have control over the oil sector in order to basically
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: put obstacles in the way of Turkish expansion also to
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: the northeast. And finally, just to have a quick look
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: at the map of Syria itself, we can see that
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: the area in question to the south, so you have
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Sweda in the white circle and then obviously extending up
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: towards Samascus and Jeremana. And how the corridor itself would
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: basically link Israel to the far northeast, covering the borders
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: of Jordan and Iraq. So what we're seeing now, and
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: I'll cover this also in the next section with regards
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: to is Rady collaboration with Russia, we're seeing i think
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: the beginning of confrontation between Israel and Turkey.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Thank you Faness. And now, of course the whole Syria
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: thing began as effectively an insurgency, Western backed insurgency. Other
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Western backed insurgencies exist, and Africa, particularly the Sahel region,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: is one of the areas that suffers from this kind
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: of thing. We haven't covered it half enough on the
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: UK colun News, but let's do something to address that. Now, Charles,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: what have you got for us?
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I think so much of all covering today is interrelated,
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: and specifically I'm gonna be talking about the Hall of Africa,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: which which is little considered given its geopolitical and strategic significance.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: But we look at yet more effects of chatter from
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: the United Nations Security going to Barbara Woodward saying that
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: sanctions against the al Shabab group are being reinforced. This
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is really a sort of rehash from what happened in December.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: But concurrent with this is that there's been a sort
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: of brokering in Turkey of the relationship between Ethiopia and Somalia,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: which of course was so destabilized, primarily in fact by
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: the United Kingdom meddling in the port of Berbera Shenanigans
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: with regard to deeply world An investment and a trade
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: corridor that the Hogasa Corridor to give Ethiopia coastline and
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: recognize Somaliland sovereignty. It's a complicated story, but something that
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: has given rise to sorry I've gone on too far,
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: given rise to speculation or at least the connection between
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: the al Shabab activities and indeed the who the well
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: what they're describing as axis or network of resistance in Yemen,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and this is going back from last year the Royal
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: United Services Institute talking about the alliance or indeed the
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: when which weapons were moving from Yemen through to Somalia
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: for al Shabab. Of course, the villain of the piece
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: not just being the whoties, but also Iran. And this
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: is why this all relates very much back to the
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: statement that Dan Jarvis has made that NAS has already
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: been talking about. So there's that element to it, and
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: indeed this idea of there being sort of state threat
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: either from Somalia, Yemen, or most particularly Iran. But concurrent
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: to this, we've got the change in the UN mission
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: in Somalia, gone from at MISS the Transition Mission to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: what's now called I'm not sure whether you apnounce it
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: awesome or awesome, but see African Union Security Stabilization Mission.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: And the issue, as pointed out by Defense Web here,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: is one of funding, which of course is slightly ironic
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: given the Subcommittee on Delivering Government Efficiency, the DOGE hearings
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: wh've been going on in the United States over the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. I'm just going to play a
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: short video clip now which puts into focus the funding
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: of any UN mission in Somalia, particularly with regard to
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: countering the activities of Al Shabab.
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  Speaker 8: Mister Roman, are you aware that we are sending forty
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: million dollars a week to the to the Taliban? Yes, sir,
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: Can you name other instances of foreign aid going to
• 42:48
  Speaker 8: terrorist organizations.
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: We have assisted al Shabab and Somalia. There has been
• 42:53
  Speaker 10: instances of the Humsie network in Sudan Hamas Islamic. You
• 42:57
  Speaker 10: had Hasbal La Kapaliba, hasb La Haya Pakluros Shamsan Syria.
• 43:02
  Speaker 10: Dozens of terror organizations have received indirect assistance from US
• 43:07
  Speaker 10: foreign aid.
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  Speaker 2: No seemingly explosive of course on the face of it,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: But I think the question to be asked is why
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: would this information be released? And to get a bit
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: closer to that, we take a look at who Greg
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Roman is, the chap who was speaking then, and I
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: think most relevant to what he was saying is his
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: role as a director of Middle East Forum and the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: fact that he has worked for the Israeli government and
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: its Ministry of Defense. So although he is pointing out
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that these organizations have of course been funded by the
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: United States, still it is very easy to take that
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: information and still look towards Iran, or indeed look towards
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: supporting Israel. And the other thing that we should not ignore,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: and this relates very much to what Sandy's been talking
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: about with Ukraine, is actually the focus on Somalia itself,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: and I've got an article that goes back to twenty
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: twenty one suggesting that Somalia could be the first cashlest society. This,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: of course in African business, that was perhaps optimistic. Nonetheless,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: it suggests the efforts that are being made behind the scenes. Somalia,
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: as a frame of reference, only introduced its first cash
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: point machine first EIGHTM, back in twenty fourteen, but they
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: have come on a pace. And the Central Bank of Somalia,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: which is the sort of currentseration of all the Italian
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: banking systems that set up over the decades of the
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: twentieth century, but it has now produced something called SIS,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: which is a payment system that connects the Central Bank
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: to all of the commercial banks in Somalia. And no
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: great surprise then to see that this is coincident with
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: the announcements from the United Nations International Organization for Migration
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: talking about the stronger legal identity systems. Of course, what
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: they really mean there is digit ID. The IOM has
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: three point five billion dollars a year funding to be
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: able to promote these sorts of initiatives, and it should
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: be made clear that some of their funding does of
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: course come from private and philanthropic sources. So all of
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: this what starts as an apparent effort to deal with
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: al Shabab, when you scrape away beneath the surface, you
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: see that actually this is giving an opportunity to reset
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: a part of Africa that, as I say, does have
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: great strategic significance. There are a lot of countries operating
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: in that area, and of course the relationships with both
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: Yemen and Iran would be to my mind, exactly why
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: we're having these sorts of bits of information pushed out
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: into public domains be very interesting to see where this
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: goes in light of the UK's push for deciding or
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: describing Iran as being a state threat.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Charles, sadly welcome you back and back to
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Ukraine and the question of religious freedom there.
• 46:06
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well we're running up to Easter. Apparently it's ash
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: Wednesday today if you didn't know, and it's been almost
• 46:15
  Speaker 7: a year to the day since the Ukrainian government waged
• 46:18
  Speaker 7: a war on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, the UOC. And
• 46:23
  Speaker 7: it goes way beyond security measures. I mean, they were
• 46:26
  Speaker 7: saying that they felt that they were pushing Russian propaganda,
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: but it really does constitute a direct attack on Christianity itself.
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: While every sovereign nation has the right to protect itself
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: from threats, Ukraine's crackdown on the UOC, including the closure
• 46:43
  Speaker 7: of churches and arrests of priests and forced and congregations
• 46:48
  Speaker 7: and the force transfers of religious sites, raises serious concerns
• 46:51
  Speaker 7: about religious freedom. The uc has been the main church
• 46:55
  Speaker 7: in Ukraine for over a thousand years. You know, Smerican
• 47:00
  Speaker 7: human rights lawyer called Bob Amsterdam has been very vocal
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: on these wrestling He's recently been interviewed on Tucker Carson.
• 47:08
  Speaker 7: Do look at that. He's been campaigning for the UOC,
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: for the release of the priests and to stop this suppression.
• 47:16
  Speaker 7: You know, fifteen hundred churches have been seized, all their
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: land and their artifacts stolen, and they even have a law,
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: it's Law three eight ninety four to destroy the UOC.
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: So this is really, you know, it really is an
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: attack on religious freedom. Freedom of religion is a call
• 47:36
  Speaker 7: cornstone of democracy and it's enshrined in international law, including
• 47:40
  Speaker 7: the Article eighteen of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
• 47:44
  Speaker 7: and nine of the European Convention on Human Rights. Despite this,
• 47:49
  Speaker 7: Ukraine has systematically targeted the UOC. And what's interesting is,
• 47:54
  Speaker 7: you know it's very selective about you know, are who
• 47:59
  Speaker 7: are being persecuted did And this really does suggest that
• 48:02
  Speaker 7: the government's true most in not security. It's an attempt
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: to eliminate a particular branch of Christianity in favor of
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: Zelensky's state approved Orthodox Church of Ukraine, which was he
• 48:14
  Speaker 7: brought about five years ago. You know, you've got a
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: thousand year old church being replaced with a five year
• 48:20
  Speaker 7: old church that state approved. I mean, it's you couldn't
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: make it up, is that you know that the SBU,
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: which is the security you know, secret security police in
• 48:31
  Speaker 7: in Ukraine, are taking actions against the u S including
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: the detention of the clergy. And really it's they're behaving
• 48:39
  Speaker 7: a bit like as Starzi, you know. So it reminds
• 48:42
  Speaker 7: me of what happened in the in the Second World
• 48:44
  Speaker 7: War and the Gestapo in Nazi Germany and the Stars
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: in East Germany. You know, they're using intimidation, surveilance and
• 48:53
  Speaker 7: political persecution to silence opposition, and they carried out raids
• 48:56
  Speaker 7: on religious and political institutions that they deemed just you know,
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: a threat to the state power. You know, this is,
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: this is really happening in such a brutal way. And
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: what we you know, what I don't understand is in
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: in the UK we've got the Freedom of Religion and
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: Belief Act, which is understanding this is a human right.
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: So why why aren't we doing anything to protect this
• 49:24
  Speaker 7: this church? You know, it's a Christian church and they're
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: destroying it. You know, it's really unbelievable what's happening. And
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: just to wind it up, you know, religious persecution should
• 49:35
  Speaker 7: only have a place, you know, it really it should.
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: It's persecution should have no place in a nation that
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: claims to be fighting for democracy and freedom. And you know,
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: at the end of the day, people should be able
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: to pray in their own churches, especially at a time
• 49:52
  Speaker 7: of war, when people are stressed and people are dying.
• 49:54
  Speaker 7: You need that, you need that spiritual connection and that
• 49:57
  Speaker 7: is being destroyed in Ukraine right now. If you want
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: to support them, do go to uh, yeah, I think
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: it's called where is it? Yeah, support the Saves THEUOC
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: dot com if you really want to go and if
• 50:10
  Speaker 7: you want to support them, go to that website.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you, Sandy, thank you Vanessa. Let's
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: come back then to to Israel and well diplomacy with Russia.
• 50:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we talked about just now the race to
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: control sectors of Syria by Israel and Turkey. So let's
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: see where Russia is positioning itself in the new regional alliances.
• 50:36
  Speaker 5: So after the clashes in Jeremana that we talked about,
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Natiya who dispatched his military secretary has General Roman his
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: name Goffman, to Moscow, thank you for a series of
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: high level of security and diplomatic meetings. One of Israel's
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: key concerns for this is Turkey's growing influence in Syria.
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: And then we look at the fact that Israel is
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: strengthening ties with Russia, according to Hebrew media, in a
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: bid to curb Turkish influence in Syria. Jerusalem deepening security
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: coordination with Moscow while working to curb Turkish influence in
• 51:21
  Speaker 5: posts Asad Syria amid rising tensions. Nephanno, who authorizes military
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: action against which are the HTS forces and urges Moscow
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: to pressure Hamas for hostage talks. So interesting that Moscow
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: is now positioning itself as a mediator in the region
• 51:42
  Speaker 5: after what happened in Syria. In December last year, and
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: then this is from the same article, Israel seeks to
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: block Turkish Syrian military Act. Turkish president Erduwan is expected
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: to host Syria's new president, Joe Lanni, leader of the
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: Johardest rebel factions that toppled US, as their discussions are
• 52:04
  Speaker 5: set to focus on establishing Turkish military bases, training Syria's
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: reconstituted armed courses, and securing the country's airspace. So the
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: rivalry is becoming very obvious here. But I just wanted
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: to show this video that has been circulating on social
• 52:22
  Speaker 5: media that may put a spanner in Luwan's works towards
• 52:27
  Speaker 5: gaining control or the upper hand in Syria. These are
• 52:32
  Speaker 5: HDS representatives alongside ZIONUS officials at a conference, and this
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: is an HDS representative speaking at that conference. So let's
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: play this resistance and.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: My visits.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: My first visit to Isil after seven October.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I'm Fland just Forsted in October to support my events, and.
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: My brothers lived in Asyl and I visited LVA. It's
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: all very shocking.
• 53:07
  Speaker 7: For Ree when I see the pictures of people who
• 53:10
  Speaker 7: can't just.
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: Celibrate or dancing or some things like so very clear
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: that HDS is aligning itself with Israel. Moving on, Israel
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: actually lobbies the US to keep Russian bases in a week,
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Seria sources say so. Allegedly, Israel has been lobbying the
• 53:36
  Speaker 5: Trump administration to allow the Russian bases to remain on
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: the coastal region in Syria, again potentially as a block
• 53:47
  Speaker 5: to Turkish control in that area, which has been heavily
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: persecuted by the HTS factions ethnically cleansing Alla, White factions,
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: Sheer factions, and even Christian factions from the coastal region
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: and coming down towards Hama and Homs heading towards Damascus. Now,
• 54:09
  Speaker 5: what is very interesting in the midst of all this
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: apparent collaboration between Russia and Israel. According to Hebrew media,
• 54:18
  Speaker 5: Israel has been invited to Russia's May the ninth parade
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: while unfriendly nations excluded. Israel is apparently among the nations
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: invited to Russia's May ninth parade or Ve Day parade
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: in Moscow, along with Palestinian leader Mahmun Dabas, who is known,
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: of course to be pretty much a proxy of the
• 54:38
  Speaker 5: Zionis regime. Inside the occupied territories, and the Kremlin has
• 54:42
  Speaker 5: said it will not invite leaders of unfriendly states including Ukraine, Germany,
• 54:46
  Speaker 5: Front and others. Interesting until now Iran doesn't appear to
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: have been invited, but Israel is, and of course what
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: are the British too. The British are actually aligning themselves
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: through a rather junior Foreign Office member who I think
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: yesterday or Monday was having talked in Istanbul to discuss
• 55:08
  Speaker 5: posters ad Syria in Anchora with Alow. And so interesting
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: that the British appears to be aligning themselves with the
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: Neo Ottoman Empire, having of course previously been on the
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: enemies of the first Ottoman Empires. For interesting times and
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: a lot of maneuvering by the regional alliances.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, well, we will watch this space, thank you, Vanessa.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: Now let's come back to the UK then and finish
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: off well. First of all the MHRA, because the government
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: is announced today that they've appointed Lawrence Tallon as the
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: new Chief Executive Officer of the Medicines and Healthcare Products
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Regulatory Agency. He's going to begin that role from the
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: first of April. So my question is is this an
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: April fool's joke? Maybe but we'll see why in a second.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: So he began his civil service career in two thousand
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: and two as a policy manager before becoming Private Secretary
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to the Secretary State for Health just four years later,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and so that was quite a meteoric rise. He stated
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the Department Health for five years, then he went into
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the private sector for another five years and then went
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: back to the National Health Service. Now of note is
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: that he's currently a limited partner at KHP Ventures, which,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: as you can see on screen, describes itself as giving
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: equity investments with healthcare expertise for grind breaking med tech
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and digital startup startups. So let's have a look at
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: some of the investments. So what we're looking at is
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: mainly AI medical devices, which are exactly the same sorry,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: exactly the kind of thing that the MHRA is supposed
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: to be regulating. So the question is could this be
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: a conflict of interest or is this putting the right
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: man in the job as an enabler? Resume he will
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: resign from KHP Sorry, just take that off screen for
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: a second Stephanie, thanks. I presume he's going to resign
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: from KHP Ventures at the very least before the first
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: of April, but we will watch this space and see.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: But sticking with otter madness, you've got a preview over there.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Let's just have a look at it and eye that
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the genetic manipulators are out and forced trying to raise
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: money for Jurassic Park. It seems this is an organization
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: called Colossal Laboratories and bioscienceists who are into gene editing
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: to recreate what they describe as the lost megafauna and
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: other creatures of the past, but only the ones they
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: say that had a measurably positive impact on our fragile ecosystems,
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: like the willy mammoth, for example. They hope that having
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: mammoths running around the Arctic tundra is going to encourage
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: grass to grow, which is going to capture loads of
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: carbon dioxide. So, as you see from what you're seeing
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: on screen at the moment, they are into gene editing
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: and so on. But they've decided that they are going
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: to gene edit a mouse and give it long hair
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: as the first step along the way to Willie mammoths.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: But don't worry, they'll only start implementing an actual Sorry,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: they'll only start experimenting on actual elephants when they're convinced
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: that the process is safe and effective. So what could
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: possibly go wrong? Anyway? Remember this is all enabled in
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: the UK by the Genetic Technology Precision Breeding Act twenty
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: twenty three, and if you remember when it was introduced,
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Joe Churchill, the Minister for agri Innovation, said new genetic
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: technologies could help us tackle some of the biggest challenges
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: of our age around food security, climate change and biodiversity loss.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: So certainly what we've just been talking about covers the
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: second of those two. But as Charles reported some time ago,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: this isn't about vanity projects like this isn't only about
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: vanity projects like Willie Mamas. It's this is happening to
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: our food supply. So what was what we're saying Spring
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five for trials of precision bread cereals For us,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: this is the type of food that we're going to get.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: So again I'm just going to finally ask what could
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: possibly go wrong with this? Plenty to talk about in
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: extra in a few minutes time, but we've got to
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: leave the news there for today. I'm going to say
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: thank you very much to Vanessa, Charles and Sandy Stick
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: around on the live stream if you are a UK
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Calm member for extra otherwise, don't forget the interview tomorrow
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: at one pm. We'll be back as usual on Friday
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: for more news at one pm. See you then bye bye.