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Brewsers #390- Sallie with Balanced Body Smoke Lounge · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers, a podcast about beer, coffee, booze, and bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Ray John, and today we talk to
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  Speaker 1: Sally with Balanced Body Smoke Lounge in Dallas, Texas. We
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  Speaker 1: talk about yoga, the cannabis laws, and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: Sally and everyone here in the DFW area is doing
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  Speaker 1: fantastic things when it comes to.
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  Speaker 2: The world of cannabis.
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  Speaker 1: We are in a weird period where things are going
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  Speaker 1: back and forth, maybe suspended, not suspended, but she's doing
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  Speaker 1: amazing things when it comes to yoga and obviously mental health, retreats,
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  Speaker 1: so many other things you'll hear about in this episode.
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  Speaker 1: So without further ado, you don't want to hear from me,
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  Speaker 1: you want to hear from her. Here is Sally with
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  Speaker 1: Balanced Body Smoke Lounge here in Dallas, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: I would like to welcome to the show Sally with
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  Speaker 2: Balanced Being Lounge. How are you doing, damn man?
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  Speaker 3: Doing great. Thanks for having me on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. This place is beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And so, but obviously, so did the yoga part start
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  Speaker 1: first or did the lounge or did they kind of
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  Speaker 1: at the same time?
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  Speaker 4: The yoga part started first. I opened this as a
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  Speaker 4: yoga studio three and a half years ago and I
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  Speaker 4: launched the lounge in January of this year.
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  Speaker 3: Awesome. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So the lounge is what, seven months old, and the
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  Speaker 4: yoga studio is three and a half years old.
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  Speaker 2: How did yoga come into your life?
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  Speaker 4: I got started practicing yoga around 2013. I actually started
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  Speaker 4: doing it while I was living in China and about
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  Speaker 4: to move home. We can cover that on another episode.
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  Speaker 2: You can give us the cliff notes if you want.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I started practicing it back then. I continued
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  Speaker 4: when I got home. It became a very, it became
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  Speaker 4: a practice that I relied on to manage my stress
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  Speaker 4: as well as my overall health over the years. And
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  Speaker 4: so that's what, why I feel so passionate about offering
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  Speaker 4: yoga to the community and why I opened a business
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  Speaker 4: to continue serving the community.
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  Speaker 2: In that way. And how did you find this location?
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  Speaker 1: Because Lower Greenville forever has been the spot for people
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  Speaker 1: to this, that, and the other. And so it had
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  Speaker 1: so many different facelifts and evolvedness.
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  Speaker 2: So how did you end up on Lower Greenville?
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  Speaker 4: I ended up here because a friend worked for the
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  Speaker 4: company that was overseeing the rentals.
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  Speaker 3: In this building.
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  Speaker 4: It's interesting that you ask that, though, because my family
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  Speaker 4: has been in the Lower Greenville neighborhood since before I
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  Speaker 4: was born. Okay. Yeah, my dad owned, he's passed, my
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  Speaker 4: family owns some apartment buildings down Lower Greenville, and he
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  Speaker 4: bought those before I was born. And then I lived
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  Speaker 4: in one of them for four years in the 2010s.
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  Speaker 3: My husband lived on Matilda before we moved into our
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  Speaker 3: house together. And so we've been in the neighborhood a
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  Speaker 3: long time.
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  Speaker 4: And when this happened, space was presented to me, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, I guess it would only make sense that
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  Speaker 4: I wound up in the Greenville neighborhood given the history
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  Speaker 4: with it for my family and my spouse.
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  Speaker 2: That's hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, so how's the neighborhood been treating you?
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  Speaker 3: Pretty good. Greenville's a great spot.
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  Speaker 4: There's always going to be change and, you know, sometimes
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  Speaker 4: we have stuff with the city like Two months ago,
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  Speaker 4: they decided no one could have sidewalk signs. But city
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  Speaker 4: stuff aside, I love being in the neighborhood, and I
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  Speaker 4: think the yoga plus plant medicine vibe fits really well.
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  Speaker 3: In the Lower Greenville community.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How did plant medicine come into your life also?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, like any college kid, start smoking weed
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  Speaker 4: at some point.
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  Speaker 3: But I, more as an adult, I have....
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  Speaker 4: Used cannabis both for recreation and social purposes. And then
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  Speaker 4: I like to use it to relax and unwind and
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  Speaker 4: help with sleep. And I really do view it as
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  Speaker 4: a medicine. I wish that the government viewed it.
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  Speaker 3: That way too, or, or acknowledge the fact that it's
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  Speaker 3: just a plant that grows out of the ground. So
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  Speaker 3: why should it be regulated?
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  Speaker 4: Um, so I have used it as long time, use
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  Speaker 4: it for a long time for personal purposes. And when
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  Speaker 4: I opened this business, um, I felt like cannabis fits
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  Speaker 4: really well with the yoga culture and community.
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  Speaker 3: I noticed this at other studios I worked for where
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  Speaker 3: people would smoke beforehand. You could smell it when they
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  Speaker 3: came in.
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  Speaker 4: I had people give me gummies at the front desk once.
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  Speaker 4: And so I already kind of saw that cannabis and
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  Speaker 4: yoga went well together. When I opened the space, I
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  Speaker 4: felt like it only made sense to have some cannabis, CBD,
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  Speaker 4: THC products. available here and since I've had the business
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  Speaker 4: I have really seen even more application for these plants
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  Speaker 4: as medicines when you know people come in and they
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  Speaker 4: have pain issues or you know terrible time sleeping all
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  Speaker 4: kinds of challenges and they look to the plants as
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  Speaker 4: a healthy way to treat it rather than relying on
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  Speaker 4: pills Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The stuff they want you to get addicted to and
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  Speaker 1: then try to wean yourself off.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't heal you. No, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: It's a horrible Band-Aid for a fire hydrant.
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  Speaker 4: It keeps you sick or could kill you.
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  Speaker 3: Plants don't kill.
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  Speaker 1: But, of course, the medication, don't take it if you're
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  Speaker 1: allergic to it, which, of course, you wouldn't know until
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  Speaker 1: you take it.
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  Speaker 4: I'm always confused by those disclaimers.
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  Speaker 3: Like, how would you know?
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  Speaker 1: Also, yeah, the diarrhea somehow that comes with all of
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  Speaker 1: them and the suicidal thoughts that come with all of them.
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  Speaker 3: Like, what are you doing? I know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, figure it out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, which is why I think everyone should be on plans.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And we should stop wasting so much time and energy
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  Speaker 4: and money fighting over it because it's just a plan.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Makes no sense. Well, so how did the idea
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  Speaker 2: of opening a lounge happen? Because I know when I
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  Speaker 2: was out in California.
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  Speaker 1: Woods at WeHo, it's an absolutely phenomenal place if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't been out there.
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  Speaker 2: Their lounge is so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: There's different places inside and outside that you can just,
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  Speaker 1: rent and smoke and it's absolutely beautiful. But I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I wish we could have stuff like this in Texas,
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  Speaker 1: but obviously Texas being the way it is. And then
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  Speaker 1: I found your place and I was like, Oh shit,
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  Speaker 1: we do have one.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. But because of the.
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  Speaker 4: Laws, it doesn't always feel safe to be seen.
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  Speaker 3: Um, of course we want people to find us.
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  Speaker 4: We want to build up this community because there's so
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  Speaker 4: many people like us who enjoy being plants who want
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  Speaker 4: a healthy safe alternative to bars and alcohol but sadly
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  Speaker 4: there's still people who think like.
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  Speaker 3: All of this is very illegal which it's.
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  Speaker 4: Not because cannabis was legalized in 2018 um but people
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  Speaker 4: still look at it and say well aren't the police
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  Speaker 4: gonna come there and you know the answer is no
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  Speaker 4: because they have better things to do with their time
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  Speaker 4: and also because we are not.
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  Speaker 3: A danger to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: They also, and I've had conversations with police officers and
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  Speaker 4: people who run events, like people who use cannabis are
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  Speaker 4: very peaceful and very chill. And then you have people
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  Speaker 4: who use alcohol or other recreational substances who are less peaceful,
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  Speaker 4: maybe bring in some negative behaviors. So you look at
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  Speaker 4: law enforcement, it's like, who do you want to spend
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  Speaker 4: your time worrying about? they are not worried about the
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  Speaker 4: stoners of course yeah and honestly i think they would
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  Speaker 4: prefer that more people fall into this category um but
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  Speaker 4: so it hasn't felt safe to be as the super
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  Speaker 4: public about the space and you know we want to
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  Speaker 4: preserve the community but you were asking like how did
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  Speaker 4: how did the lounge come about how did i get
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  Speaker 4: this idea well last year i was.
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  Speaker 3: Using both of these rooms for yoga. Okay. I was
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  Speaker 3: not filling up.
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  Speaker 4: The space with yoga students and I was looking at
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  Speaker 4: it and going, you know, I'm not really making enough
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  Speaker 4: on yoga to justify this extensive rent.
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  Speaker 3: And my most successful class then and now is our
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  Speaker 3: smoke and stretch format.
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  Speaker 4: So I started offering this about a year and a
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  Speaker 4: half ago, a little over a year and a half ago.
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  Speaker 4: And smoking's optional, but we just, Pop our heads out
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  Speaker 4: the back door. People share a joint. And then we
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  Speaker 4: stretch and we do a sound bath. And everyone's very
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  Speaker 4: zen and relaxed. I still can't believe these things.
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  Speaker 3: Could be considered illegal. It's just like we are a
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  Speaker 3: peaceful people.
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  Speaker 4: So that was the class I started bringing in students
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  Speaker 4: and made us different. And I looked at everything and
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  Speaker 4: was like, okay, well, what's working?
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  Speaker 3: Where do I make.
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  Speaker 4: my money, what gets people in and it's smoke and
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  Speaker 4: stretch the opportunity to like get together and share a
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  Speaker 4: joint together and my products. So then I figured, well,
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  Speaker 4: maybe we can just create a space where people can
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  Speaker 4: consume cannabis instead of alcohol and other non-alcoholic alternatives, because
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  Speaker 4: we do have Kava and we have a canna and
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  Speaker 4: blue Lotus drinks and sorry, in addition to a lot
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  Speaker 4: of cannabis options. So why not give that a try
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  Speaker 4: and just see how it goes and build up the
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  Speaker 4: community in that way.
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  Speaker 3: And so things have gone pretty well this year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, your mocktail list is fantastic. How did you end
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  Speaker 2: up with the drinks that you guys did? end up
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  Speaker 2: on there?
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  Speaker 4: You know, a little bit of brainstorming, a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of chat GPT. Definitely some trial and error. The flavors
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  Speaker 4: of the spirits are kind of unique.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you've tried kava.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we only use kava haven. We don't use fresh
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  Speaker 3: or raw kava.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: But it's got a very minty, earthy flavor.
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  Speaker 4: And then the cannabis spirits also have, just like any
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  Speaker 4: alcoholic spirit, we use cannabis and kava spirits. So you
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  Speaker 4: can just trial and error with different juices and flavors,
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  Speaker 4: and we run a very lean operation, so we didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to make it too complicated or anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: One fun thing has been using some of the local
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  Speaker 4: canned drink companies.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like, we had a Cali Sober, the Cali Express. It
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  Speaker 4: was a lemonade mocktail using the Cali Sober lemonade.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: We did a Rosie Buzz, which used Wild Revivals. I
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  Speaker 3: had this guest, Cosmopolitan.
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  Speaker 2: Wild Revival. I had them on the show. They're fantastic.
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  Speaker 3: Amazing. Yeah, Mike's amazing. We love Mike.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And for the summer, we're doing a Strawberry Sunshine, which
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  Speaker 4: uses the Hippie Sips strawberry lemonade. So we pull in
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  Speaker 4: our local vendors to the mocktail list.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So let's get to where we are today on August 6th.
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  Speaker 2: What is the law that we know of today when
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  Speaker 2: it comes to THC, cannabis in general, when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to Texas?
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  Speaker 3: Delta 9 is legal.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.
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  Speaker 4: The problem is that a lot of people are very
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  Speaker 4: confused as to what Delta 9 is and Delta 8
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  Speaker 4: and Delta 10. And this has existed for as long
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  Speaker 4: as I've run this business.
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  Speaker 2: I've tried to explain it to multiple people as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: So many people do not understand, one, the way the
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  Speaker 4: federal farm bill was written in 2018, which essentially legalized
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  Speaker 4: Delta 9 THC, provided that it's in small quantities by
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  Speaker 4: dry weight, which when you have a gummy, you can
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  Speaker 4: have a heavy gummy, not a lot of oil, and
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  Speaker 4: it's perfectly legal. So cannabis was legalized at a federal
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  Speaker 4: level in 2018.
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  Speaker 3: Texas adopted the same rules.
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  Speaker 4: Texas has subsequently attempted to dismantle that law and ban
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  Speaker 4: certain pieces of it, certain pieces of cannabis because they
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  Speaker 4: did not understand what they were doing when they wrote
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  Speaker 4: the law. None of the legislator regulators, none of them.
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  Speaker 3: Understood that they were legalizing cannabis.
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  Speaker 4: Don't get me started on the fact that we have a,
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  Speaker 4: we have the same plant being called cannabis being called
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  Speaker 4: hemp and marijuana.
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  Speaker 3: And we regulate them differently when they are the same plant,
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  Speaker 3: which also causes a lot of confusion. So Texas, Several years.
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  Speaker 4: Ago, there was a lawsuit against Delta 8, Delta 10, DHCP,
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  Speaker 4: synthetic derivatives from the cannabis plant. And that lawsuit was
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  Speaker 4: tied up in the courts for, I think, five years
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  Speaker 4: or something. And eventually the state ruled in favor of
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  Speaker 4: the people who wanted to ban Delta 8 and the
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  Speaker 4: other synthetic derivatives from the market. That's the law that
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  Speaker 4: went into effect on July 31st.
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  Speaker 3: So that impacts synthetics and specific cannabinoids. It does not
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  Speaker 3: impact Delta-9.
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  Speaker 4: And concurrently, there's a second lawsuit against THCA. There's a
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  Speaker 4: second regulation from.
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  Speaker 3: The DSHS in Texas.
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  Speaker 4: Outlawing THCA, and then the hemp advocacy group has sued
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  Speaker 4: the group state over that, that is an ongoing lawsuit.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Specific for THCA flour because, again, they didn't understand the
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  Speaker 4: plant they were trying to.
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  Speaker 3: Regulate and it's a plant.
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  Speaker 4: So I still scratch my head on this every day
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  Speaker 4: because it's been around much longer than the U.S.
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  Speaker 3: Government and it will be.
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  Speaker 2: Around much longer. We all scratch our heads on a
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  Speaker 2: regular basis.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. So.
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  Speaker 4: There were a lot of people mistakenly saying that on
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  Speaker 4: the 31st, all of these things were.
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  Speaker 3: Being banned, including THCA. However, THCA has already been banned
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  Speaker 3: for several weeks, technically.
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  Speaker 4: The rules are in place, and then at some point,
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure they'll get reversed because of the ongoing legal battle.
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  Speaker 4: So it's very confusing for the common consumer because they're
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  Speaker 4: seeing a lot of headlines that just say Texas banned THC,
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  Speaker 4: which is not accurate.
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  Speaker 2: Of course not.
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  Speaker 3: And most of what we sell is Delta-9, which is
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  Speaker 3: the naturally occurring cannabinoid. So out of our, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: 20 different drinks and 40 different gummies.
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  Speaker 3: I had one brand of gummies impacted. That's it.
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  Speaker 4: Because we never sold, I never sold anything to HCP
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  Speaker 4: and just a tiny bit.
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  Speaker 3: Of Delta A gummies. So not a big deal. Right.
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  Speaker 3: But people love to sensationalize the news.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. They think everything's got to be taken off the
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  Speaker 2: shelves and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Everything was banned.
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  Speaker 2: Go stock up before it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's just, it's stupid.
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  Speaker 2: So in Texas, we can't sell vapes. In Texas. Is
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  Speaker 2: FLOWER still? It's been back and forth, it seems like.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. That's the THCA lawsuit. So that went into effect on.
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  Speaker 4: March 31st, I believe.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And what happened with that is the Department of Health
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  Speaker 4: and Human Services, or whatever it is, they, all right,
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  Speaker 4: our government could not figure out how to regulate it.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 2: They're not great about alcohol. So with weed, I am
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  Speaker 2: not too.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: Of course. Well, they're like, how do we get money
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  Speaker 2: out of this? And how do we... Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the silly thing is that if they left all
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  Speaker 4: of it alone, they would get more tax money.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I know. Which I just don't know that maybe the
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  Speaker 4: alcohol has more lobbying money, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: They do.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, learn to pivot. You have
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  Speaker 1: to learn to pivot.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: You have to learn to.
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  Speaker 3: Accept the changes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Diversify all what you're doing sorry that your old old
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  Speaker 1: man game of alcohol that's been running for the same
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  Speaker 1: almost 100 years now since prohibition got turned back again
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  Speaker 1: we realized that was stupid yeah that oh no maybe
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  Speaker 1: if we also pivot into plants that we can grow
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  Speaker 1: ourselves and do what we want with it yeah maybe
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  Speaker 1: we will also make more money but hey I know it's.
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  Speaker 4: A scarcity mindset, but I, yeah, it's, it seems to
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  Speaker 4: be a little bit of a generational thing. Um, but
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  Speaker 4: so THC flower became illegal on March 10th, uh, March 31st.
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  Speaker 4: And then on April 10th, it was legal again. And
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  Speaker 4: then on April 29th, I'm making that up, but then
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  Speaker 4: it just went back and forth between.
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  Speaker 3: The rules are in place. Oh, now they've been suspended
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  Speaker 3: because of the lawsuit.
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  Speaker 4: Now they're back. Now they're suspended. So currently, they're in
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  Speaker 4: place for flour.
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  Speaker 3: Even though there is.
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  Speaker 1: A lawsuit, so it could suspend it again.
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  Speaker 3: It could go back again, yes. What was I going
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  Speaker 3: to say?
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  Speaker 2: The flour is illegal right now. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Drinks are fine.
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  Speaker 2: Edibles are fine.
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  Speaker 3: Drinks are fine.
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  Speaker 4: Edibles are fine. B, intoxicating flour, which is THCA.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: If the flour is truly CBD or CBG, I believe
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: that is still.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Legal, but no one's actually smoking that. Very, very few
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: people are smoking that.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Most people want THCA or whatever weed they're getting on
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: the street, I guess. And the thing is, I keep
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: saying it. No one's going to stop smoking weed. This
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: is not actually protecting anyone. It's just making it more
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: difficult for the consumer to get safe access. And then
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: whoever they're buying from on the street is almost definitely
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: not paying their sales tax.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: So they're taking a tax cut on.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: And they're not donating what they're getting to the schools
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: or anything.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: No. So it doesn't make any sense.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: And... And people are still going to smoke it. This
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: plant's been around forever. And no one has stopped smoking
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: weed even since it's been, even since, quote, unquote, marijuana
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: has been illegal.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: I only say cannabis. I don't say marijuana or hemp.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: But even since the government outlawed it in the 80s,
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: people still have been smoking. So, like, what are we doing?
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: And it's also not killing anyone. No.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: If you die on weed, there's literally got to be
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: something else.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: There are a number of other things, but... Cannabis and
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: mushrooms alone do not kill people. And we know that guns, obviously, alcohol, pills,
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: this is the soapbox that I get on.
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: There's so many things that are legal that kill thousands
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: of people every year.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Fast food, sugar.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, not to mention the poor dietary habits of
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: the country. But our government doesn't exist to keep us healthy. No,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: they exist to keep you stuck or dead.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly. Well, so, I mean, thank you for bringing up
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: mushrooms as well. Yeah. So what do y'all kind of
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: dabble in when it comes to mushrooms? Because, again, that's illegal, illegal.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: It's a plant.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: We have quite a few different mushrooms.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Awesome.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: We have some functional mushrooms that we serve in our drinks.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: And we have some products with functional mushrooms as well.
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: There are brands.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Similarly to some of the cannabis brands, there are a
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: lot of brands of legal psychedelic mushrooms now that use
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: a synthetic psychedelic and.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: People love them.
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: They're a lot of fun. They're good for recreation. They're
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: good for managing stress. Um, if you can work with
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: natural mushrooms that can like.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Change your brain, change your life.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: Uh, that's just, I like to call it a legal
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: gray area because I don't believe that a plant should
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: be classified as illegal. And when people ask me what's
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the difference between that kind of natural mushroom and what
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: I buy at the grocery store, I'm like, really not much,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: except for one can heal your brain and the others do.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Even the mushrooms you're getting at the store can have
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: a really amazing health benefit. But yeah, it's another one
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: where I'll get on my soapbox every day and say...
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: This is a plant that can heal you and that
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: can dramatically transform your mental health. And there's no reason
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: that it should be illegal. It's just the war on plants.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's the war on opening your brain and literally calming
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: everything as well.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Because we're seeing what's happening when it comes to PTSD
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: in mushrooms. And then it's helping people with addiction. It's
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's healing so many different people.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Oh, it can actually heal people instead of keep you
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: hooked on a pill and in a cycle. But again,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the government doesn't want anyone to be healed and healthy.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: No. That's dumb.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Well, so tell us about your retreats that you guys do. Retreats? Yeah.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, sure. I am leading a retreat in... January in Mexico.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I will be taking a small group to Sayulita, which,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: are you familiar with Sayulita? No, no. It's just outside
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: of Puerto Vallarta.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: My husband and I got married there a year and
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a half ago.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: It's a wonderful little surfer hippie town on the Pacific Ocean.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: The whole town borders the beach, so you can't really
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: avoid going on the beach, which I prefer to be
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: on the beach all the time.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: So I've rented a luxury villa that's just footsteps away
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: from the beach and it's on the north end of town.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: We'll be doing, well, it's a retreat to unplug, reset,
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: and really treat yourself. To just have a few days
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: where you don't have to worry about doing much and
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: you can just kind of be present and enjoy life.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: And PsyLita to me has always been a place where
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: you can unplug and just enjoy life because It's so
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: laid back and the town is so vibrant that you
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: just kind of get sucked in.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: When I look back at the pictures and.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: Videos I have, I have like barely any because I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: just enjoying myself.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And again, you're unplugged.
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Yes. Wedding photos aside, of course. But I just, I'm.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Always just enjoying the town and enjoying the beach and
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: like relaxing.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: On a lounger. So that's why I.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: Wanted to bring this group to Sayulita because And then
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: on the retreat, we'll be doing daily yoga. We'll do
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: some breath work and sound healing practices and go out
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: on a private boat outing.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Nice. Yeah. Do you want to come?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, I would love to. I just came back
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: from Cancun, so it was amazing.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, nice.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm excited. I haven't led a ton of retreats. Okay. Personally, though,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: I am very passionate about travel. Yeah. And I have
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: done a lot of travel with my husband. Yeah. So
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I am excited to merge.
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: Some of my passions and take a small group to
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: Sayulita with me, just because it's such a special place
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: and such a very laid-back, chill spot to hang out.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Is this your first retreat?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: It's my second.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Okay. You did one earlier this year, right?
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I did one last year in November. Oh, okay. Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: How did that go?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: It was great. We were in Mallorca, and I have a...
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: friend and mentor in the spiritual space are two who
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: live there. It's a married couple.
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: So they invited me to partner with them on that retreat.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: And it was really beautiful. We were there for about
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: a week.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: Um, it was November, so it was a little bit cooler,
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: but similar offering of yoga combined with some really wonderful
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: healing practices.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: That's wonderful.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So how has the city, um, I mean, have they
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: messed with you at all considering the smoke part of it,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: or do they just kind of, somebody came in here
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and was like, okay, everything seems to be above board,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: so keep it up.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: They have not been in here.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: Okay, fantastic.
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: They have not been in here.
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: We are structured as a private member-only club for that reason,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: so we don't allow, we're not.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Open to the public.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Family gets around that way as well.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I don't know what gambling does.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: I've heard that it's membership clubs.
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So it's a private member club. That's good.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: You have to be on a recurring monthly membership or
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a single-day membership to come in and hang out.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: In the space.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: And aside from that, yeah, we haven't had anyone, like,
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: hook their head in.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: And ask questions.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: And the space stays pretty clean and.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: You know, as you can see, it's not, like, overwhelmed
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: with any smoke or anything because no one's smoking right now.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Some people have, I think some people have inaccurately thought
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: that when they visit, it's just a bunch of people smoking.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Like an opium den or some shit like that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's not the case at all.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Now, before the smoke and stretch class, yeah, there might
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: be a few people who've sparked a joint. But a
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: lot of people will just enjoy one of the canned
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: drinks or one of the mocktails and kind of chill.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: You know, it's personal preference. We're not here to say smoke.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Or don't smoke. It's kind of do consume whatever plants
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: you prefer.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of friends that, I mean, I'm
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a smoker, but I also enjoy the drinks as well.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: But they aren't smokers, but they do enjoy the drinks.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Because.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: It's easier, they can control it more, and again, it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: for relaxation and for sleeping better and something to.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Kind of take the edge off at the end of
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: the day.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: And it's better than alcohol because most of them are
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: sugar-free and you're not going to feel like crap afterwards. 100%.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You don't have to hang over. Yeah. It's crazy.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Well, if people want to actually try to fight this
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: or just get their voices heard or be like, we
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: don't want this to be illegal no matter what it is,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: we want.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: You need to get your head out of your ass
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: and make it legal, or at least regulate it. Because, again,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: that way people aren't getting you off the streets. Or
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: I know they say they're going to get it from
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: the cartel, but the cartel's not messing with weed anymore.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: They're off to fentanyl and whatever the hell else.
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. I only worry about plants.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: But what can people do when it comes to writing
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to their senators, congresspeople, whatever it is?
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't even talked about the looming federal hemp ban,
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: which is another.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: But I do believe that if they went through with it,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: it would be like a small economic crisis.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: For sure. So I don't think.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Well, considering what we've seen with oil and gas, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: think they're fine. They don't care.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Who knows?
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: But if you're in Texas, highly recommend following or donating
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: to Texas Hemp Business Council. They are the largest hemp
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: advocacy group in the state. So they are doing amazing
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: work for the state of Texas to continue fighting these
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: stupid changes in.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: The law and protect our industry.
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: They also will provide advice and resources for how to
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: fight the national ban.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: So I think it's October, November.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: Currently scheduled for November. I was going to say, I
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: can't remember if it was this week or last week,
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: I called both senators, Ted Cruz and John Cornyn.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Cornyn? I think it's Cornyn.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: Cornyn. I got it right the first time. Called both
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: of them and left voicemails.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: I believe their website also was like, put in your
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: name and email, and then we'll just email the senators
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: on your behalf.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: The best way to advocate for it and take action
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: is to just call the politicians. And you're most of
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: the time just going to leave a message. And it
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: literally takes two minutes to call and leave a message.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: And the Texas Temp Business Council has all the instructions
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: and prompts on the page. That's why I say they're
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: a great resource because you can just... follow them, get
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: on their email list and they'll say, Hey, here's our
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: action steps.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: So the numbers were listed. I had a.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Script in front of me that was like, I oppose
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: this and gave the specific number of the law, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: which I'm not going to know on my own. And
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: then it's just like the bottom or the end, it said,
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: you know, mention why this is important to you.
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: So you don't have to do much.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: But that's the best way to make your voice heard,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: even though sometimes it definitely, you know, you got to wonder.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: Is my voice heard? But I guess they tally everything up.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: And so they, like it would count as a call
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: to say like, okay, this person opposes this ban. So
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: do I know if calling repeatedly gets.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: You more tallies? I don't know.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: It's such a.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: backwards system, but that's what we can do for now
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: and donate to organizations like Texas and business council. Cause
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: they're the ones like actually getting lawyers involved in suing
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: the state.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: As they should, because again, this is dumb and it's
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: been done for way too long.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: So we're very, grateful for the work that Texas Hemp
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Business Council does. They did not ask me to say
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: any of this. That's just, I have donated to.
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: Them and I know that they're the biggest advocacy group.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: So it's kind of like we got a band together.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think they were in Washington earlier this year
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: or last year, I think. Probably. Yeah. I remember seeing
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: that online. I was like, oh, good for them.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: No, they've done amazing work in the space. And then
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: they have a retail sister company, Hometown Hero.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But they're great.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: So I'm glad that we have some kind of group
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: to advocate for the industry.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Because are you familiar with Cali Sober?
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: The owner of Cali Sober is one of our members. Okay.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: And part of our community. Okay.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: And when we were talking many months ago, he said,
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: you know, the hemp industry, there aren't corporations.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: All of us are just little mom and pop companies.
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: Stores can't put their stuff in banks because.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: That's a whole other yeah we don't have time for
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: that either um but we're all just these little shops
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: all across the state across the country and there's no
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: like large entity to go after um i recently saw
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: on a weed advocacy page on Instagram that the U.S.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: government holds some patent for marijuana or cannabis.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: I have not heard that.
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to show you the post.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: And so they were like, oh, well, they hold this
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: patent and it, like, ran out in 2019 or something.
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: And just gives, like, another bullshit, behind-the-scenes reason why the
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: government would try to prevent something like this from being, like,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: widespread legalized.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: But.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: But anyway, because we're all these little shops, it's hard
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: to get everyone together, and we don't have some large
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: corporate entity that's going to go and try to spend
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: a million dollars lobbying for things, which is why the
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: federal hemp ban was put into the spending bill last November.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: The bourbon industry wrote them a $ 900, 000 check.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Which is dumb, considering how much money they would have
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: actually made if they did pass everything.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Way more than that.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm thinking the short term, not thinking long term.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: And if they could just kick this little can down
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the road, then they'll be fine with it.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I talked to Jonathan Black, who's the CEO with Cheech
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: and Chong recently.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: And he, again, was like, same thing you were saying, like,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: there's not one big one. It's just all these little,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: so they're trying, it's a slow but surely situation.
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: And it's like, can we just figure it out? Again,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: it's a plant. What are we, why are we fighting
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: so hard?
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Why are we spending more money to fight this thing
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: than we are to be like, Okay, thank God we
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: can all make money now.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, again, just look at what Colorado did
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that first month, and that was 20 years ago, I think,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: at this point?
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: I think 2014. Okay, then, yeah, like 12 years ago. Yeah.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: How much did they do in the first month?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, way more than anybody ever would have anticipated.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Those schools were very happy. Yeah. Because it actually went
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: back to the schools.
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: Well, that's what, like, yeah, our government just won't. It's
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: so frustrating that they won't. Look at it and say,
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: like Colorado did, like, we could, if we legalized it,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: then we give a pathway for small business owners to
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: run a legal business, to serve their community, to make money,
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: to bring in tax money to then put back into
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: social programs and continue serving the community.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: But again, we don't really want to help the local community,
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and we also don't want to help schools, so none
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: of that would make any sense.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: We'd rather have guns in schools.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Of course. In case there's more guns.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: And then, of course, we love telling women what to
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: do with their bodies, which is even better, because what
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: are we doing?
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: Texas.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I know. I'm just like, why do I have to
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: be here?
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, it's one of those things you
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: hope that they get their head out of their ass
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: one day.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah. Maybe. Maybe.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: We'll see. So talk to us about the community conversations
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: you have on your Instagram. I think those are great.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Did you watch any of them?
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: I've watched some of them, yes.
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: Well, I, you know, similarly to what you're doing, I
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: have started connecting with other leaders in the community, either
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: who have a cannabis-based business or a wellness or fitness business.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And it's all about creating connections, learning from each other,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: and sharing what your experience has been and, um, you know,
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: relating on some of these issues that we all feel
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: very passionately about and then sharing some of our knowledge
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: and education with the general public because you don't always
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: get to hear to small business centers, sit down and
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: talk shop or, you know, what are our, how did
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: we get here? Just like you were asking or what
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: are our opinions about, um, cannabis or about running a
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: yoga business or.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: What's been working for you yeah there as opposed to
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: what's happening actually over.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Here yeah I did one with a friend who owns
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: a yoga studio in Plano okay and my staff was.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Here uh and got to overhear our conversation and.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: She said I just loved hearing that because that's something
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: I would actually want to listen to or watch and
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: it was just really like interesting and nice to hear
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: you guys talk about your experiences um I feel like
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: as a small business owner, there's so much that we
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: go through that we don't talk about or share publicly
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: or with our community because, you know, when would you,
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: to some extent, um, right. And, and so it's nice
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: to just sit down with these other business owners and
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: share our experiences and then be able to share those,
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: share bits of it with the community too. So they
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: get a little glimpse into what it's like.
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I love that because, again, if they don't know to ask,
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't know any of the back things, like taxes
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: or what actually is getting people in and out of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: this place and just the ups and downs of business
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: and the economy and stuff like that.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: We don't really talk about taxes. That's kind of boring.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: It's true, yeah.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: But it's also a giant pain in the ass for
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: a small business as well.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Well, then also the fitness community and the cannabis community
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: have gone together for so long. I mean, even back
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: when Arnold put out his pumping iron, he was talking
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: about smoking weed before he would go work out, which
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: is ironic because then he would just go eat the
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: large meal afterwards.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: From the cannabis from the workout, though.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Probably from the workout. Yeah.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: But, you know, I'd say I smoke weed before I
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: go work out. Sometimes people are like, oh, my God, really?
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, you're way more focused. You're feeling everything
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: in your body.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: And then also you're not like, distracted by everything else
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: that's going on.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: You know, we have a cannabis electrolyte.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: I've been wondering how much that's going to start blending
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: over as well, because we need more, like, most people
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: don't drink enough.
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: Water as it is. Right. So people putting electrolytes and stuff, especially, like,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: with the.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Protein craze that was happening and fiber is happening right now,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: so I hope more electrolytes are also happening for people.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we brought one brand from Austin. They have a
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: pre-workout and they have a post-workout electrolyte mix, and each
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: has 10 milligrams of THC.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: I have smoked plenty before working out too. And I
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: used to always do that before like every yoga class
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: I took.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: I'm not, now I'm doing morning workouts. So I, I
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: don't do that right now, but no, and nothing wrong.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Also nothing wrong with consuming before you work out. Um,
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: I do, I prefer to smoke out a little water bubbler. Um,
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: but you know, the act of smoking and working out,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: maybe not the best for your lungs, which is where
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: something like the electrolyte drink can be a really nice,
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: supplement that you can.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Switch to yeah yeah yeah there was a stretch when
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I had at my home gym that I would like
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: in between sets I would smoke like I don't know
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: why just trying different things and it was yeah it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: was definitely a test for my lungs for you know
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: being able.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: To keep it up and just you're trying new things and.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Seeing what doesn't work yeah Pushing your body's limits. Exactly.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: But there's a great page on Instagram, Weed and Wellness. Okay.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Do you follow them?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I don't. I will now.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: You should because he posts a lot of stuff around
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: how to consume in a more conscious and responsible way.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Gotcha.
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: And it's like, you know, it actually goes very well
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: with wellness and it's this plant that has so many benefits,
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: so many, or so much potential to heal and for
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: people to use it. again, in a responsible way and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: does a lot of advocacy to change the perception from
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: that stoner culture and like, oh, they smoke weed, they
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: must be a dead weed. It's like, no, you actually
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: just don't know how many people smoke weed.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that too. Yeah.
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Don't know how many people are out there smoking or
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: acting and gummy before they do something because we've had to.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Like hide it. And people who enjoy cannabis are, can
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: also be extremely high-functioning.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It works the opposite for me. It
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: opens my brain up. I have more energy.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I can't smoke before I go to bed because I'll
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: have to be up for another two or three hours
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: because my brain is just running through.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: You've got to experiment with different strains.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: They both do the same thing.
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: You're like, I have.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Believe me, I've tried.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: It's fine.
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: I still love it.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fair.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But no, with the cannabinoids, we've had even like LeBron
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: James' recovery company that he ended up having, like they're
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: breaking down the cannabinoids so much that they are.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Doing it for recovery for after the fact.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And so that's probably one of the reasons also why
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: the NBA just doesn't test for it anymore.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think any sport at this point tests for
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: weed anymore. I think most job advocates don't have to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: worry about it anymore.
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think, yeah, I think that is also an
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: outdated vestige Of the war, the failed war on drugs.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: And it's so, I always felt like it was so
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: unfair that cannabis stays in your system so long. And
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: you could be like, you could go to a state
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: where it's legal and consume legally and then be penalized
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: on a drug test for a job or for a sport.
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: When you haven't broken any law. Right. Like.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: It's not an inhibitor. Or it's not going to make your...
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Or an enhancer, I guess.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. You haven't broken a law. And.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: What are we doing?
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: So, yeah. I haven't had to take a drug test
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: in a really long time. I also... Always called them
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: an intelligence test.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Because I've always been smoking, and yeah, there are ways
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: around it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: There are definitely ways around it. I think I got
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: my current job by getting around it, so yeah.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You know, thankful that I don't have to take a
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: drug test to work here.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a buddy who just got a promotion
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: within the same company, and he was like, oh, I
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: think I'm going to get a drug test.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: I'm like, not in the same company, you're not.
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: And he didn't.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that would be weird.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, they already hired you. They're not
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: going to, just because you're going to a different part
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: of the company.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I understand....
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Drug tests for places that have, like, manufacturing or heavy equipment.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Right, right.
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: Where if you're inhibited at all, there's, like, big physical risks.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: But for, like, a desk job.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: In downtown Dallas or Plano.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: Or you're dealing with people or... It's like, you probably...
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: You probably... would be able to tolerate your coworkers a
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: lot better if you were on a 5-milligram counting. Exactly.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Just something free to maintain the whole day.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Just a little dose to help you not explode.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I have a segment on the show I
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: call The 5 Counts, just five random questions.
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: What are the last three things you Googled?
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Last three things I Googled? Yeah.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Or JetTPD, whichever one you use.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of stuff. I mean... I'm just like
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: so many random things.
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Um, restaurants in Destin because we're about to go there
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: for vacation.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just had a friend that just came back
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: from there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: Uh, and then I was asking, I've been, I have
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: payment processor situations, so trying to sift through some.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Of that stuff.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Uh, and then working on like a marketing email for
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: the studio, um, In chat. I would say I use
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: chat a lot more than just straight Google, but.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I don't use the chat GPT, but.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: No.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Almost a billion other people do.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: I know it's divisive.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: If you're using it as a tool, as it's supposed to,
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: that's fine. But if you're using it just for like everything,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I feel like.
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: I use it for a lot of business stuff.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: Makes sense.
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: And when it comes to writing anything, I've talked to
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: it so much that I'll say, you know, write a
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: blurb for the retreat or caption for this post that
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: I'm putting up because it can do it in a
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: matter of seconds versus taking five minutes. You know, that's
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: like basic stuff. But I've also used it to help
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: me build websites, you know, and it just cuts the
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: thinking time down, which for better or worse, right? You
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: still have to be able to like read and comprehend
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: and then use your best judgment. Sometimes I'm like, No,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: I didn't like that. That's not the tone. It needs
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: to be more this way. And that's just how all
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: platforms are.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: But again, it's a tool. So you just, that one
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: didn't work. So like, no, take this up.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: So that's not a bad thing. If you were a
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: pro wrestler or MMA fighter.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: What would your name be? Steel Boot Sally.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Okay. That's good.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: That was a pirate name that my high school classmates
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: came up for me.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: 20 years ago.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: How did it come about?
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: We were in Barcelona on a trip after my senior year.
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: It was like a graduation trip with a group from
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: my high school. There was a pirate museum. And someone
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: was like, what would everyone's pirate savings be? And I
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: somehow brought up the fact that as a one.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Or two-year-old, I had to wear little steel.
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: Booties to get my feet to walk properly because I
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: think I was rolling over on my foot.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: And for a certain time, I had to have therapeutic shoes.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: That's how bad.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: So then they were like Steel Boots Alley. Would make
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: a good wrestler name too, right?
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, without a doubt.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Nobody's done it. I know that. Number three, who was
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: your first concert?
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: I think like Gavin McGraw. Okay. Yeah, he's a musician. Yeah.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Did I say the name right?
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: Or is it DeGraw?
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: I know he had that one song. I don't want
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that one. That guy.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: At the Lakewood Theater.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow, okay.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a theater anymore. No, it's definitely not. Yeah,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: but small venue. Yeah, Gavin DeGraw.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: You're like, sure.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: No, I think that's right.
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Number four, who or what inspires you?
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: My husband.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: How'd y'all meet?
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: We actually met, so I told you about how long
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: we've been in the neighborhood. We met at a friend's
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: house a half.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: A block from here. So this is like, and then we...
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: connected the, our set of our first date at truck yard.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And I had our first date at four day weekend.
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: Do you know four day weekend?
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Is that the improv? Yep. Yeah.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Improv right there.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: So like the beginning of our relationship was all within
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: like a two block radius of where we're sitting.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Do y'all live by here too?
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: We are just a little North of here, North Dallas. Yeah.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: Not far though.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: And number five, what would you tell your 17 year
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: old self?
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: You're a badass. And you're going to have an amazing life.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: That's good.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: And if people want to find out more about y'all,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: obviously follow you guys online, visit, support you guys in
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: any way, I'm going to do so.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And just come by and see us. Stop by.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: We're on Lower Greenville, right in between Alamo Club and
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Abby's Bagels. We have a wonderful retail shop if you
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: want to shop with us.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: You can drop in for yoga classes.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Just check the schedule ahead of time because on Monday
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: I had two people walk in at like 2 o'clock
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: and they were like, is there yoga right now?
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: And I was like, no. So check the schedule if
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: you want to take.
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: A yoga class or schedule a lounge visit with us
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: to come hang out and see what our cannabis.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Lounge is all about.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I love it. Sally, thank you so much for your time.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: This place is phenomenal and thank you for what you're
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: doing for the community.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. Well, thanks for having me on the show.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: It was a pleasure. No problem.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Sally for being on the show. Again, obviously,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: if you are in the DFW area, head on over
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: to Lower Greenville. Check out Balanced Body Smoke Lounge.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Obviously, they do yoga.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: They have a smoke lounge. You have to get a membership,
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: as you heard. So definitely go check that out. Check
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: them out and get with your politician. Figure out who
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: it is. If the laws are not where you want
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: them to be when it comes to cannabis, obviously, we
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: need to get them there because we need to support
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: cannabis in all forms possible. And we definitely need to
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: make sure this happens. So it starts with us, hopefully.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: Hopefully.
• 48:03
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• 48:06
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• 48:10
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• 48:13
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• 48:17
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• 48:18
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• 48:22
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• 48:24
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• 48:26
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• 48:28
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• 48:31
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