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Pirates Will NOT Trade Paul Skenes · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the three OT where we talk all
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things Major League Baseball. Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate
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Reyes. It all starts right now.
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Welcome back to the three OT presented by Chinook.
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Cedry, this is episode 538. I'll be your host, Kyle Cord.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes.
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Nate. Casey, How are we?
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Not going to lie, man, I'm I'm still reeling from in a good way
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from our score keeping adventure Sunday night.
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I've still been thinking about how much I how much I enjoyed
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that over the last few days. That was good.
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That was a good time. And even in the, even in the
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last couple games that I've watched and the night since
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then, I've been thinking, I've been sort of just playing it out
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in my head like, OK, what would I score?
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Like, what am I scoring here? What am I, what am I jotting
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down on my score? And I, I, I feel as if I need to
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get my muscle memory down and maybe score another game in the
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coming days, maybe this weekend to sort of get that.
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I agree. I agree.
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Not that not that Meredith struggles to watch with you at
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all, right? Because she seems she's a Nats
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fan. She's she's always been dish.
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But I didn't say anything. I didn't say anything if you're
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watching on YouTube. You guys have been together a
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long time. So like she's she's been around
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baseball a long time. Yeah, she loves sitting down and
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watching a game. Have you, have you told her
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about like, have you brought it up to her about maybe teaching
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her? I haven't I feel like I should I
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I did express how much I enjoyed it and I was I was like AI was
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like a proud toddler. The after the game on Sunday
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night when I took up the we finished up down here and I took
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the scorecard up and I was like I stated there, like like I
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wanted to put her, wanted her to put it on the fridge or
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something. I'm like, look, my first score
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kept score of my first game. She's like, good job.
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No, I'm just kidding. She was she was happy.
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But yeah, that's that's a skill that I I may may need to pass
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along to her. That was that was good.
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And I again appreciate you for teaching me and the the many
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others that were in the I feel bad.
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Honestly, I feel, I feel like I miss stuff and there's also
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weird things that didn't happen. The fact that we didn't have a
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single double play in that game was wild.
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Very. Yeah, that was.
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So those had no idea what we're talking about and didn't didn't
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get to check the live stream Sunday night.
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We're going to do something. I guess we've mentioned this a
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bunch of times, but if you live under a rock and maybe this is
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your first episode, welcome. Hi.
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I'm Kyle, This is Nate. We're going to do something like
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once a once a month ish where we're going to watch Sunday
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Night Baseball, We're going to stream it and and we're going to
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keep book. And I'm not going to proclaim
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that I'm some kind of expert or anything.
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I just know how to do it. And Kyle didn't and now he does.
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And if you want to learn, we're going to do that.
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We're going to try to pick like a good matchup once a month that
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hopefully kind of lines up with our schedules.
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And yeah, we're going to hang out on Sundays, eat some dinner,
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eat some seeds, keep book, which by the way, is the is the
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baseball phrase for keeping score, which I don't know who
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was in the in the comments upset with calling it keep keeping
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book. I yeah, Who calls it Keeping
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book? I'm like pretty much everybody
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that's ever been around the baseball field that I've talked
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to about it. Anybody.
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Yeah. I learned in high school and
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that was like that I've never heard.
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I've actually that sounds weird to me if you say I'm going to
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keep score. Yeah, it definitely.
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Yeah, I don't, I don't really saying it.
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How neat is it, by the way, that like what other sports can you
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do that for? True, true.
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Nothing. I'm.
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Going to keep stats but like in a manual like traditional way
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very very. True, that's our thing.
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Super sick. Any who's Speaking of sick?
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You know what makes me want to throw up?
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I could have taken a shot, but I won't.
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All right, go ahead, take your shot.
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Medium rare steak. All right?
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OK, buddy. All right.
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No, actually, I would enjoy medium rare steak.
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What makes me want to throw up is the fact that the pirates
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have made it clear that they're not wanting to trade Paul
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Skeens. And I tell you what makes me
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want to throw up. What's the shrub?
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What's the shoulder shrug for? Don't even try to convince me
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that this is like a smart business endeavor.
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For the very short term, sure. But like very short term.
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I think this is a year by year base basis.
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I think this is let's, I don't think it's something that like
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they can just have a sweeply sweeping declaration on and
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saying like we're not trading them at all.
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I'm in the camp that no one can afford them.
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And when I mean no one, I mean no one, no one can afford Paul
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Skeens. No one can afford Paul Skeens
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right now with four plus years of control left.
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Actually, it's probably like 5 years of control left.
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No, no one can afford him. And the ridiculous I, I was
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watching something that Bleacher Report posted where it was like
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the mock trades, like let's, let's come up with like mock
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trades from some teams that may be in contention and every can,
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every team was just their top three prospects and that's it.
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That's not enough. That's enough for Paul Skeens in
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two or three years where he only has a year left.
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When you have 4 plus go around five years of control, Paul
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Skeens, you can't afford him because it's not just your top
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three minimum. I would say probably another
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couple prospects and a couple big league right now guys,
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current big league right now guys.
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So what's the point? I'm also in the camp that what
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are you trading for? Are you trading for another Paul
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Skeens? What are you hoping for in that
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trade? You're not ready to win now.
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There's no point in moving him right now.
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That that's exactly the point. That's the the exact reason they
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should move him. Bob Nutting buddy, open your
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eyes. You are doing a disservice to
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the game of bet. Not just, not just the.
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City of pitching to grow. That's it.
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I think it's silly. You are doing a disservice to
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the game of baseball. You're you're not helping Paul
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skins your own team can't help Paul skins lot.
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What was it last outing 8 innings of one run ball lose the
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game and that's you think oh, that's just an one example Look
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at the way the entire season has gone.
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It's only going to get worse. This isn't going to get better.
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And and I think, I think you know, Bob Nutting and whoever
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else is in charge of discussing the decision around Paul Skins,
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whether or not to move, move on from him or not and maybe get
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some value, better get a haul of value in return.
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They're naive to think that anything is going to change.
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How like for the last, how many year, how many years have we
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been saying this about the Pittsburgh Pirates?
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Like, man, they're, they're, they've got the, the ingredients
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for the recipe to make it work to, to really light the fire
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onto that in that city for that sport, for that team.
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And we can see a resurgence of Pittsburgh Pirates baseball.
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How many years have we been saying that and nothing's
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changed? So why not Just like selfishly I
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understand, but I'm sitting here going let him go play for
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somebody else that's gonna make the team better, the team that
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can support him and also just be more of a reward for the rest of
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baseball to enjoy. Instead of watching him sit
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here, look, look at his body language in the dugout on start
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days and after starts. He's he already knows.
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Even at his age, his his very young age, with his limited
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experience at this level, he knows this is not where he needs
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to be right now, and he hates it.
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OK, I number one, I think his body language is just that way
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when he pitches. He's just, I think he's a very
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intense guy. He's he's very unemotional in
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general. More let me clarify more after
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the fact, like after these starts when he gives you what he
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gives you and then re looks up at the scoreboard and goes well,
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that's another loss on on my record.
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Not that the losses matter to him, I'm sure, but.
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I, I don't, I don't disagree in the fact that like he, he's a
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very obvious competitor. He, he very obviously wants to
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win it and he, he seems like that guy.
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And to go from top of the world at LSU in a, in a national
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championship to, you know, one of the worst organizations in
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baseball for the last 3-4 decades.
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Like, I understand what you're saying, but in my mind, I think
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I think the scenario is, is, is let some of your youth continue
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to develop. Let O'Neill Cruz continue to
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settle in and be the guy he is. Let Jared Jones come back and
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we'll get into him later. Let Bubba Chandler come up and
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be his guy and like let all of this start to develop a little
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bit more because selling him right now I just, I don't think
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does anything it, it doesn't change anything.
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So why not just like enjoy the revenue that you're getting from
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this name, Enjoy the the eyeballs that you're getting
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from this name. And in hopes of over the next
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two or three years, maybe some of these other guys in your
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organization start to become things and maybe you can start
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to fill in gaps. I mean, I, I'm not holding out
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hope. But what I'm saying is like, I,
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I think there's a right time to press the button.
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And I just don't think right now is the right time.
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And I'm also going to double up. This question was saying, should
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the Pirates trade Paul Skeens? It's should any other team trade
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for Paul Skeens? And I think of what they would
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have to give up right now. No, I think no.
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I think it'd be an A a ridiculous overpay.
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I think we're giving the Pirates too much credit when talking
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about the future and saying, well, hold on to them, milk the
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value that you can because in that scenario, we're assigning a
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level of competence inherently to the front office and how they
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would handle Paul Skeens, his future and the pieces around
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him. We know, we know very well when
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it comes to the Pittsburgh Pirates that they have have said
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this countless times that they are a feeder system to the rest
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of Major League Baseball. So all really, the names that
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you mentioned in my mind don't matter when it comes to Paul
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Skeens, his future because there's a good chance they're
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not going to be there, whether it's because they've reached
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free agency or the pirates realize, oh, maybe, maybe we
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just trade this guy, capitalize on the value a little bit.
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So by the time Paul Skeens is ready to really capitalize, I
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mean, he's already made such a great impact for this team even
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just in his second year. But by the time he reaches free
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agency, where he's presumably fully hitting his stride, we're
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going to be talking about a completely different batch of
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names. So it's like, if that, if that's
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the way you're going to handle one of baseball's biggest stars,
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then just do the rest of the league a, a service a solid and
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just let him go elsewhere where he can help grow the game
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further. Would I love to see him compete
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for a relevant team? Of course I, I, I would love
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that. But I think the realistic side
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of it is just like none of it matters.
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I, I thought we weren't going to talk about them anymore.
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They need to wipe everything clean and learn how to develop
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and learn how to scout and learn how to coach at all levels.
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I, they need to do all those things, but they need to be able
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to fill in these gaps somehow, some way.
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And, and it doesn't just have to be go like the, the, you can't
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just stamp everything of like go spend more money on free agents,
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go spend more money on free agents.
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Like there's teams that don't do that.
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And that's OK. There's plenty of teams that
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find success other ways. It's the lack of searching for
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that success. It's the lack of changing what
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they've been doing that really bugs me the most.
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So who knows, man, if we Fast forward in two years and you're
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telling me that he's their number one, this Bubba Chandler
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kid is is the truth. And he's their number 2.
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And Jared Jones is back fully healthy from his surgery and
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he's their number 3. And you get a young manager in
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that like starts to create a little bit of a different
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culture. And you have O'Neal Cruz, who
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continues to do O'Neal Cruz things.
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There could be this this aura that gets created, and there
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could be this, like, somehow whatever is happening on the
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field is forcing this organization to change the way
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they're doing things. And I have hope in that more
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than I have hope in the front, the front office and the
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organization changing on their own, if that makes sense.
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I, I mean, I hear you and, and to a point I agree with you.
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But in this scenario that you've laid out, they're still
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presumably still going to be at the helm when that situation
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unfolds. When you're talking about a
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three headed monster, potentially 4, who knows Unless
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in your rotation. Unless.
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They. Sell, you know, OK, well, I
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mean, that's a completely different story, but I I just
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don't foresee that happening. So to me, it's like if they're
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still the ones making the decisions, they're still the
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ones that are going to have to to surround the that rotation
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with pieces in addition to O'Neill Cruz to make it a a
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respectable team, A-Team that's worth like capable of making a
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run of a wild card spot. I just don't.
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I don't foresee it happening. I, I in a perfect world, I'd
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love for MLB to step in. I'd love for other owners to
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step in and say, Hey, it's been how long?
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Ten straight years of a sub 500 record or whatever it is.
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Like something unbelievably uncompetitive.
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Like I, I, I would love for our league to step in and say you
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got to go and enforce the cell because like I, I think we've
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seen that in the past, like in it's weird sticky situations.
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What, what was the Dodgers thing 1015 years ago?
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There was like a divorce and that like MLB is like, you got
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to sell, you got to get rid of this.
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So like, I, I think there's ways around it.
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And I'd like to say that there should be some type of
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competitive stipulation, but there isn't really like any,
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what's the word? There's no.
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Accountability. No, What's the like when lawyers
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have like precedent? Like there's like precedent set?
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Like if there was, if there's something in the past where like
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a team was forced or an owner was forced to sell based on a
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lack of competitiveness, if that precedent was already set,
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that'd be great. But like something, someone's
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got to be the first. Why not the Pirates, man?
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Why not the MLB? Just stepping in and saying we
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got to change this now. You're going to be the first
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one. I like that.
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And and you could go so many different ways with that.
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Like if, if I mean as simple as like your winning percentage
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over a certain period of time has to be this or there's going
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to be ramifications or yeah, you you could, I mean, I don't want
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to go down too many rabbit holes.
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You could you could go so many different ways with that, but I
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mean, they'll I. But again, we'll wrap it up
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because we've had way too much Pirates talk already this year.
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Stop it. I said this last time, I'll say
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it again. I think when MLB expands, then
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we get two extra teams and grows at 32 and maybe teams move,
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maybe teams pop out of new cities.
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I, I think the restructure of divisions could really, really
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affect things. And like I said, if, if the
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Pirates all the sudden have the Red Sox, the Mets, the Yankees,
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the Phillies in their division, and now all of those fans are
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filling up that stadium, that changes the value of that
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organization. And I do think that there's a
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peak time to sell. There's a peak time to sell this
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organization. There's a peak time to sell Paul
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Skeens then. I don't think the peak is quite
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there yet. So what happens over the next
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few years as MLB? And look, whether you like it or
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not, I think it's coming. I think the MLB is up for a huge
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shift. And I think NL and AL are going
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to look different than we've ever imagined.
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And you're going to see teams that have spent 100 years in a
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league. That that doesn't mean anything
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anymore. That's, I think that's the way
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it's going and it's going to shift some stuff.
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I've never, last thing I'll say on the Paul schemes better.
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I've never been a proponent of Major League Baseball or the
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players rather adopting the philosophy that you see play out
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or the practice really that you see play out in football and
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basketball with the sit outs related to contracts related to
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playing time related to this or that.
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But if there was a guy where I and I, and the reason I'm
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bringing this up is because I saw, I saw suggested on
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something, I was reading about it earlier today where it was
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like maybe Paul schemes, You know, like if the, if the
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Pirates have made it clear that they're not going to trade him,
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maybe Paul like if he's serious about it, if he really doesn't
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want to be there. And I we mentioned it earlier, I
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could see his feelings on this heightening tenfold, a
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hundredfold after this World Baseball Classic when he gets a
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true taste of what it looks like to pitch in competitive baseball
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games for a competitive team. If they, if the Pirates have
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made it clear that they're not interested in trading him and
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he's really serious about getting out of there, maybe he
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becomes a guy that sits out and says, you know what, that's
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fine, I can. Hear you, I think.
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It sounds great. I'm a holder.
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I'm just, I know I'm, I'm not saying that would happen and I'm
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not, I'm not an advocate of players sitting out.
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But in this particular situation with this particular team, even
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I, I feel I, I could feel a certain way about it.
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I could be very easily convinced.
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I think he's too much of A winner.
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Well, you could make the argument that if he if he is
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that much of A winner, maybe he would do what he needs to do.
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He he would he'd play a little hardball to get to a winning
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team so that he's not so so he's not going out throwing 8 Indians
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of one run ball and still getting handed the loss.
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I. Don't think there's anything you
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can do. Not during this period, not
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during arbitration. I don't know a guy that would
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probably be open to a trade for a bucket of balls.
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Luis Robert, he actually came out today, yesterday and asked
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about, you know, potential trade because his name's been floated
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around with on the trade market really the last last year or
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two. And they, Scott Merkin of
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mlbd.com asked him about it and he said right now is my season
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is going, I don't think anyone is going to take a chance on me.
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And I got to say he kind of nailed it on the head there
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because the guy stinks right now.
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Truthfully, don't really know why I have them stashed on my
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fantasy team. I don't know what I'm waiting
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for. A guy's been kind of cheeks for
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the last calendar year, if we're being honest.
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And that's a truthfully, call me ignorant.
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I I don't really understand why this is a name that's been so
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heavily coveted on the trade market, or maybe not coveted,
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but presented as such a valuable piece.
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Like, yeah, I've seen what he can do, but he there is
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something not right, whether it be mechanically, mentally, maybe
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just the fact that he's playing for the White Sox, maybe that
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has something to do with it. I, I just, I haven't seen it.
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It doesn't make sense to me why Louise Robert is a name that's
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being floated so often and so strongly, given the way his last
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year plus has gone. Potential, I guess.
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I don't know. I'm the White Sox botched
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another situation, but it doesn't help that he's sucked.
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It's been bad. There was a brief window last
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year where you could have, you could have moved from him or
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moved him, I should say. But to your point, it guy's
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been. They're in a they're in a bad
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position because he he's been unhealthy and he's also not
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performing when he is healthy. And, you know, $20 million a
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year is not something that just like easily gets picked up when
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that's a part of the mix. So any team that's calling is
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probably telling the White Sox like, hey, like you're going to
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need to eat this, you're going to need to eat some of this.
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I'll need you to eat 8 mill a year or whatever.
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I think the fact that the contract has back-to-back, which
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I haven't, we need to figure this out eventually because this
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topic seems to come up like once a year if that club option gets
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traded with with him. Where you getting 20 million
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from? I'm seeing, I'm seeing a six
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year, 50 million, $50 million contract.
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Yeah, it's all back loaded. This year he's making 15 to next
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year he's making 202027. He's also making 20.
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It was all back loaded. Are you looking at the luxury
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tax? Are you looking at what he's
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making? Payrollannualspottrack.com.
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Oh, I see. I OK, I got you.
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Yeah. Back load.
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I see. OK.
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I see what you're saying. Yeah, Yeah.
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Yeah, 2021 you made 3 1/2, then six, then 9 1/2, then 12 1/2.
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This year it's 15, next year it's 20/20/27 is also 20.
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Then he said to be a free agent at the year 2028, thirty years
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old. I got you.
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That was on me. I was looking at the wrong spot.
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So I think they missed their window.
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I think they need to figure something out, but like, you're
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going to have to eat some money and you're not going to get the
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prospects that you want because you missed the mark here.
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You missed the window man too. Long Yeah.
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So I don't there's no like good way to to go about this.
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I don't I don't think there's a a winner in any of this.
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It's every team is probably looking at him as like a buy low
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and for $20 million that's not really buying low.
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And so it's like it's, it's the worst possible situation and
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he's playing like crap. So it's like, yeah, you're
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stuck. I.
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And but to your point, though, they did, they missed the mark,
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they missed the window. And not to rehash the whole Paul
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Skeens thing. And it's a completely different
26:58
situation in in terms of on field talent and and value and
27:02
finance, marketability, finances.
27:05
No, no, it's very different. But I'm saying, but in terms,
27:07
I'm saying in terms of front office management, does it
27:10
surprise us that the White Sox have mismanaged Luis Robert?
27:14
No, it shouldn't. Will it surprise us when the
27:17
Pirates inevitably mismanaged the Paul Skeens situation?
27:20
No, it shouldn't and it won't. So that's sort of what I was
27:24
getting at with the Paul Skeens thing.
27:26
But to your point with the Louise Robert thing, it's that's
27:28
not an easy contract to move with how poorly he's been
27:32
playing. And I'll be honest with you, my
27:35
first thought when I read his comments are I guarantee you the
27:38
White Sox were not happy with the fact that he's just like
27:42
self owning. His awfulness is self owning is
27:47
suck because they're going we are.
27:49
We need every ounce of positive PR around your situation, like
27:58
your potential trade package as we can.
28:01
And you're going out. You're going out there yourself
28:04
being like, no, no guys, other teams around the league, don't
28:08
bother. I'm not worth it right now.
28:10
Don't come knocking because I'm I'm not going to help.
28:13
Yet a little reverse psychology, maybe a lot of calls will come
28:16
in because of this. That's a very valid point, they
28:21
said. You know what?
28:22
But nothing's working. Just go out there, say you suck,
28:24
and maybe, maybe we can just eat some of this contract and clean
28:28
our hands of it and be be on our merry way.
28:30
Yeah, yeah, I they're going to have to figure something out.
28:36
It's going to, it's going to have to be something weird where
28:39
he's packaged with someone or there's a lot of money that's
28:43
being eaten. And then at the same time,
28:46
you're like, what? I don't know why.
28:50
Why not just wait? I wonder what, what the White
28:59
Sox would be on the hook for if they just, I mean, nothing,
29:04
right, $2,000,000 if they don't pick it up.
29:12
So instead of paying him 20 next year, you're going to pay 2?
29:18
Or is that two? Yeah, to buy it out.
29:22
So maybe that's a part of, that's probably a good thing to
29:34
negotiate with, say, hey, you're going to get these club options.
29:38
It's only a $2,000,000 buyout. If he sucks the rest of the
29:40
season, don't pick it up. You're only going to pay for
29:45
half of this year anyway. So a $10 million, a $10 million
29:51
rental with potential that a superstar is in there somewhere,
30:04
was in there somewhere. I don't know if it's still
30:06
there. He's only 28.
30:10
And there's not a whole lot of like risk to it.
30:17
Yeah, he's only played over 100 games once.
30:19
I mean, I know he's he's still relatively young, but he's only
30:22
played the one year he did play over 100 games, 145 in 2023.
30:27
That was his his best year. That's our, we've always, we've
30:30
always talked about this. The the lower half injuries are
30:32
never it's there's two terrible things that you're going to
30:37
have. It's lower half injuries or it's
30:40
hand and wrist injuries for hitters.
30:42
If you have any of those on your resume that doesn't doesn't
30:46
carry a lot of water. I don't know.
30:51
The White Sox are just delete them, delete them, move to Utah
31:00
ho. Yeah, real quick little tangent
31:05
I didn't get a chance to read. That article is floating around.
31:08
What? What's the deal?
31:09
There I I think is there mainly around the Coyotes thing because
31:13
like the the Coyotes going to Utah and now it's the Utah
31:18
Mammoth and that's hockey by the way.
31:21
And then there's conversation about like Utah trying to get on
31:26
board for this and prepping to be able to write a check for it.
31:30
And I don't know that. For what?
31:32
For baseball. Yeah, if if the Diamondbacks
31:36
decide to move, if they decide to leave.
31:38
Has there been any? Well.
31:40
Chase Field is kind of. There's some back and forth
31:43
about Chase Field. Oh, because of the lease, right?
31:46
There's like a lease thing. They also want to make
31:49
renovations and I don't think Chase Field wants to do it.
31:54
I don't know if this city of Phoenix wants to do it.
31:56
I don't know it's it's a very weird scenario.
31:59
I love having ball out there in the desert.
32:01
That's a. And I'm finally starting to get
32:05
like on board with it. Like, it's, it's actually good
32:08
baseball to watch. I'm like, no, don't leave.
32:13
Be odd. So, Utah, go get the White Sox.
32:17
Leave the Diamondbacks alone. Not a bad thought once, Juan
32:27
Soto, we're back to this topic again.
32:30
Gosh. Well, it's.
32:31
Just like I feel like it is this rinse repeat.
32:33
It's look, man, I mean, I'm I'm doing people want I'm doing what
32:39
I can. I'm doing what I can with the
32:42
credit cannon to really, you know, prop some people up.
32:46
Someone just. Drove off the road.
32:48
I'm sorry I'm. I'm really trying to use that to
32:51
prop some people up, get some other names in there, sort of
32:54
get some fresh blood in the end of the conversation.
32:57
But doesn't help when you got these these mosquitoes, namely
33:03
Bob Nutting and and the White Sox and the like that are
33:08
always, you know, making headlines for this reason or
33:11
that it it, it's not fun, but we got to talk about it.
33:17
But yeah, Juan Soto, which by the way, I think I'm just going
33:22
to, I think I officially may as I look at him on my television
33:28
this very moment, I think this may be the the podcast where I
33:33
I, you're. Calling it.
33:34
I turn I, I think I've really I, yeah, I, I was a big fan of his
33:40
in DC. Naturally, I was able to watch
33:42
him a lot when he was out here. But then the IT was really just
33:50
the progression of to Padres, to Yankees, to Mets, where
33:56
something, something about the, the Juan Soto narrative really
34:01
seemed to accelerate. And I started, I started keeping
34:04
a closer eye on just like how he was handling himself.
34:08
And I got to say, not a big fan. I think I mentioned it last
34:14
episode the the the ego. I think hey, shout out speaking
34:20
and Speaking of the national shout out James Wood fan love
34:23
that on YouTube dropping in with a little hello James Wood fan.
34:28
Now you want to talk about an outfielder for the Nationals
34:30
that I'm a big fan of. Stud.
34:33
James Wood. Stud.
34:36
So much a fan that I decided to capitalize on his value and
34:41
trade him away before the season started in fantasy.
34:43
But it's neither here nor there. Now he's on my team.
34:46
Yeah, I don't like it. I.
34:48
Get postponed games in fantasy so often.
34:53
I don't know if it's just me, but I lost him and CJ Abrams
34:58
tonight to a postponement. Love, love some love some James
35:04
Wood. So shout out James Wood fan in
35:06
the chat, but no Juan Soto. There's just I really think and
35:12
who who am IA mere man to sit here and judge another for maybe
35:18
feeling a little bit more self-righteous when it comes to
35:25
being at the center of attention for the last year with the I
35:30
mean really, obviously longer than that, but truly under the
35:34
microscope for the last year with his free agency.
35:39
And then the contract negotiations go down and then
35:43
the sign, the signing with the Mets and everything that came
35:47
with that and just the, and not to keep rehashing this, but like
35:52
the whole the the sweet thing and the family shopping spree
35:55
money and the the comments here and there.
36:02
I'm I just feel like I'm out. I just feel like I'm kind of out
36:05
on the Soto thing. Do I still think he's a
36:07
generational talent? I said that last episode.
36:09
Yes I do and I'm not. It's.
36:11
Unlikeable anymore. I'm not coming.
36:13
Yeah, I'm not coming off of that stance.
36:14
But it to me he's just not, I don't know.
36:19
I just it's really hard for me to to really buy into the the
36:25
Juan Soto likeable movement. But all I'm just saying the.
36:32
Mets didn't help. It's be real.
36:34
Yeah, which, hey, shout out to the Mets, just took a series
36:39
from you. Granted, we just dropped the
36:41
game tonight, but enjoy. Enjoy the flight home.
36:47
Anyway, the reason we're talking about Juan Soto is because he
36:50
caught some Flack in this series against the Red Sox Monday
36:56
night, I believe, for a lack of hustling.
37:00
And boy, I tell you what, I don't think I understood or was
37:05
aware of how many people have just normalized not running
37:17
after hitting a baseball. I am blown.
37:20
I was blown away. And how many people were just
37:24
like, So what I'm like, like, don't try, no, don't try to pin
37:32
this on me. Is it being like a boomer take?
37:34
It's literally what you are supposed to do.
37:39
You're supposed to hit the ball and run to the next base.
37:45
He didn't do that because he was watching the ball that he hit
37:52
that he thought was going over the Green Monster, but ended up
37:56
going halfway up. The monster made it to made it
38:00
to 1st, and if he was saying, well, he made it to second, he
38:03
stole the next pitch. Big deal.
38:05
OK, And what if he didn't? OK, what if the situation's
38:09
different? What if he ends up being the go
38:11
ahead run in the ninth inning and ultimately doesn't score to
38:15
help the Mets win a game? It didn't happen that way.
38:19
But I'm just saying what if, and I'm almost certain this is not
38:23
going to be the last time that this happens, Juan Soto.
38:25
And for the people that are saying, well, this happens to so
38:28
many other players, it happened to Pete Alonso in the same game,
38:31
I understand that. But the difference there is that
38:35
those players aren't the highest paid player in baseball,
38:38
$765,000,000. And those players also aren't
38:43
the ones after the game when interviewed about this very
38:46
issue, saying, well, if you looked at the hustle, you'd see
38:49
that. You'd see that I was hustling
38:51
tonight. Well, Juan, you.
38:53
Weren't. That's a weird comment.
38:55
What a weird response. Not a deflection, not a hey,
39:00
what are you even talking about? It's AII was hustling.
39:04
I don't know what game you're watching, buddy, but I was.
39:08
I was. I was moving out there.
39:11
No, you weren't, Juan. Scale, Scale of one to 10.
39:17
One being I, I, I'm buying a house in the middle of Queens
39:27
and I'm never leaving for the rest of my life. 10 being I'm
39:31
going to contact anyone and everyone to find a time machine
39:34
to go back. How much does he regret signing
39:38
this contract with the Mets right now, at this moment,
39:42
current moment? He wants Soto 1000% will not end
39:51
this contract as a met 1000%. This is not going to age well.
39:57
This is not going to age well. This is going to be, if you
40:03
remember when Bryce Harper signed the contract that he did
40:07
with the no trade clause, excuse me, the no opt outs people are
40:13
going, there's no way this ages well.
40:15
I think at this point in his tenure with the Phillies, you
40:17
can pretty safely say. That he's going to stay there
40:23
for the remainder of the time that slept on that contract.
40:25
Yeah, Juan Soto, you can very clearly tell.
40:30
And I, I look hand up, I acknowledge that a great deal of
40:34
this, maybe not a great deal, but a a good portion of what's
40:39
going on with Juan Soto is certainly being pumped and
40:43
fueled by the media. I'm I'm not naive enough to
40:45
think that that's not the case. They're it's New York.
40:48
They're absolutely pumping this and milkiness for every many
40:51
that it that it's worth. I understand that, but I think
40:57
you just look at the pieces to the puzzle that exists right now
41:02
and you can pretty easily reach the conclusion that Juan Soto is
41:08
not, when it's all said and done, is not going to truly
41:12
enjoy or or reap the benefits of what he thought this contract
41:19
was going to offer him. Because he's going, yeah, the
41:22
money is great. But boy, I tell you what, my
41:25
career numbers would would have looked a lot better at XYZ,
41:28
wherever that would be, whether it's the Yankees or elsewhere.
41:32
And I think at a certain point the like, you have so much
41:38
money, Juan Soto. And and I'm not going to sit
41:41
here and pretend like, oh, I know what I would do with that
41:43
money or I know how I would behave if I had that money.
41:46
But at a certain point, you got to think with that much money
41:50
still this young in his career or this early in his career,
41:55
he's probably going to be longing for more once the, once
41:58
the, the, the shininess of the coin, if you will, sort of wears
42:04
off. And he's going OK at $765
42:06
million. This is great.
42:08
But you're looking around the league.
42:10
Wow, it looks like Aaron Judge is having a lot more fun back,
42:13
back over in the Bronx or so. And so is having a lot more fun
42:16
at wherever I, I, I don't think as I mentioned, combined with
42:22
the media there in New York, they're not going to make this
42:24
situation any easier. I think when it's all said and
42:27
done that he's going to long way of answering your question.
42:30
I think he's very strongly going to regret this and I couldn't.
42:34
I can almost guarantee you that he will not finish his contract,
42:37
isn't it? You're going to give me a
42:40
number? Which end is?
42:46
Which end? One is he couldn't be happier.
42:51
10 is. I wish I'd go back in time.
42:57
You're asking me how he feels like right now.
43:00
I'd give you like, I'd give you a 75 and I think it's only going
43:07
to go up. I think that's a fair number.
43:12
I think something to also talk about right now is the fact that
43:15
like they're in first place and they're one of the best teams in
43:20
baseball and this is what we're talking about.
43:24
This is what the media is talking about.
43:30
We can't just slap a winning cures all on this.
43:35
Good point. And we might be able to by the
43:37
end of the season, but what does this say to your team?
43:42
Like I, I get who you are. I get your talent, But like, you
43:47
just got here. You have a guy that's begging,
43:52
that's pounding on the door all offseason, begging to get
43:56
resigned. I love it here.
43:58
I don't want to wear any other uniform.
44:01
Please take me back. You have another guy who is, for
44:07
some would argue, in MVP conversations regularly in
44:11
Frankie Lindor, who plays every day, who hustles every day,
44:19
who's been there for a little bit.
44:23
You just got here and this is what we're talking about.
44:27
Then winning isn't curing this. I said it didn't look quite
44:35
right when he showed up at Yankee Stadium.
44:40
I said it seems like he was trying to play it off.
44:44
It seems like it did bug him and now it's kind of carried over to
44:52
this point where like I think we did, we forget he was a Met for
44:58
the first couple months. Now we're seeing a downside of
45:05
him not playing well. Now we're seeing them in a
45:07
little bit of a skid. Drop 2 out of three to the
45:10
Yanks, drop 2 out of three to the Red Sox, and you're like.
45:13
Huh. He's not playing so great if you
45:17
look at the numbers and he's not hustling and he just got here.
45:23
Like there's got to be this level of like, I'm, I know I'm
45:26
the highest paid guy in the room, but I want to earn my spot
45:29
here. I want to earn not just my
45:33
teammates respect, my organization's respect, my
45:35
fanbase's respect. It's not just gifted.
45:40
It's not just granted to you. And I think that what he saw in
45:46
Yankee Stadium was like, I've spent my whole career beloved
45:52
everywhere I went. And now that's not really the
45:54
case. Now I've burned bridges and I'm
46:00
playing for a team that everyone hates and they don't even like
46:02
me that much right right now. How do I, how do I contest that?
46:12
Bust your butt dude. Run hard, put in effort.
46:18
You hitting 265 doesn't look so bad when you're busting it down
46:22
the line when you're laying out in the field.
46:28
We have jogging on double plays where the guy on 3rd we have
46:34
jogging in the outfield. You already suck in the
46:37
outfield. At least you could do is the
46:40
least you could do is just run and try to hunt some balls down.
46:47
I think I, I think what we watched him experience in Yankee
46:53
Stadium this past week has unlocked something that we've
46:59
never seen in Juan Soto before. And it's a not, it's not a good
47:03
thing. It's I think it's kind of a dark
47:05
side. I think it's kind of a strange
47:08
uncharted territory for him, and I'm curious to see how it
47:13
continues. Do I think the Mets are fine
47:17
this year? Yeah.
47:18
Do I think he'll end up hitting thirty home runs and over 290?
47:25
Yeah. Do I think he's going to walk a
47:28
ton and have a crazy good OPS? Yeah.
47:35
Will the narrative of him being unhappy change anytime soon?
47:41
I don't know. And he doesn't have a very good
47:43
poker face. All of what you just described,
47:51
you're 1 of I. Don't know 15, not even we're
47:56
two months in 15 and it's not it's not going to change like
48:03
you better, you better figure out how to flip the script then
48:07
be the ultimate villain. That's my that's my opinion on
48:10
this. If you're going to be looked at
48:12
and viewed as a villain, then be a villain and get good at it
48:19
because you smiling and thinking everyone loves you.
48:24
Ship a sail, dude, turn into a villain, be the bad guy.
48:33
That's the only way to save it in my mind and watch the Mets
48:37
rail at rally around that, you know what I'm saying?
48:39
I don't hate it. I think that's the only way to
48:41
do it. Don't hate it, Will Benson
48:51
leading off this week's edition of the Credit Canon segment.
48:58
Will Benson, my dude, hitting 478, 5 homers, 10 ribbies, and
49:07
an OPS of 1773 over his last eight games.
49:17
I know it's a small sample size, but 1773?
49:23
Like we're approaching American Independence territory there.
49:27
That's insane. Will Benson has the high, as you
49:31
would very easily imagine, has the highest OPS in the month of
49:35
May in Major League Baseball. The the question I have for our
49:42
beloved Tito Francona is why he's been on the bench for the
49:48
last two games. Didn't he may have gotten in as
49:52
like a late inning guy yesterday, but today I, I mean,
49:56
neither of the last two games has he started in.
50:00
And sure enough in those two games yesterday and today, the
50:04
Reds lose 1 nothing and 3:00 to 1:00.
50:07
And from everything that I'm I've gathered from Reds fans, he
50:10
is their only true offense right now, like exceptional offense.
50:16
And so when you're losing games that close where he could
50:19
presumably make a difference, like I'm unless I'm missing
50:22
something like unless there was like maybe a small tweak, but I
50:27
haven't heard anything about that otherwise.
50:28
So I'm just assuming that it's a it's an alignment thing.
50:33
It's a match up thing. I don't know, but dude's been
50:36
tearing it up. So not to.
50:38
And that that's obviously that doesn't reflect on him.
50:40
That's maybe just a decision from up.
50:42
Top, but it's kind of more on Tito.
50:44
Yeah, otherwise, dude's been tearing it up these last couple
50:47
weeks. So good.
50:48
Unwill, Benson. The ball he hit in Cincinnati
50:50
the other day was like I, yeah, there are sometimes where you
50:55
just you see someone hit and it like it's a little jaw-dropping.
50:58
That was wow. That was wow.
51:02
Where he like he walked, he strolled after he hit.
51:06
That ball was nuts anyway. He can get, he can get into it.
51:10
Next up, Riley Green hitting 444, three homers, 9 ribbies and
51:18
an OPS of 1426 over his last over the last week according to
51:24
Detroit Tigers PR on Twitter, since April 7th and this is
51:29
coming into Wednesday. Since April 17th, Riley Green is
51:32
hitting 333 with nine home runs, 29 RBIs and a 1006 OPS.
51:39
Over that span he has tied for the American League lead in
51:42
homers while ranking second in RBI, third in OPS, and tied for
51:47
fifth in average on the season. His 1.5 F 4 ranked sixth among
51:52
AL outfielders. That's good company.
51:55
American League outfielders, that's good company.
51:58
According to database Hit on Twitter Riley Green in the month
52:01
of May he's slashing 333-390-7680 to six homers which
52:06
is tied for the 4th most, 18 RBIs tied for the third most,
52:11
and then WRC plus of two O 6 which is 6th.
52:16
His six home runs this month has tied his career high dating back
52:22
to April or matching his his total from April of last season.
52:29
Best regular in baseball and this guy wasn't even right yet.
52:33
Now that he's getting right. Lookout bro.
52:39
Lookout times are coming, man. I'm in it.
52:43
What do you mean they've already?
52:44
They're already here. Nah.
52:45
I mean, they're like, I think this is going to be, this is
52:49
going to be start of something for a while. 33 and 17 coming
52:55
into today. Or this is going to be a thing
52:58
for a minute. Maybe after today.
53:00
Did they already play today anyway?
53:03
Yeah. That not to not to sound like a
53:07
broken record, but that American League Central is gross.
53:10
Like so good that it makes up for the the trash that is the
53:14
Chicago White Sox. Like the Guardians are in fourth
53:18
at 26 and 22. They would be second in the
53:21
American League East, second in the W, 3rd in the NL E Like
53:27
pretty much anywhere else in baseball, you're going to be in
53:29
a, in a contending spot in your respective division and they're
53:32
4th and they're only, they're only what, half a game back from
53:39
the Royals it looks like. Who were in 3rd?
53:42
Who were they were? They were that was my division
53:45
winning team this year. So I'm going to need the Royals
53:47
to figure out how to hit a baseball.
53:52
That's also like a whole another thing too, says.
53:54
Like the fact that they're still in the hunt and they're not
53:58
hitting. Yeah is crazy.
54:00
Yeah, that's a damn good team too.
54:03
Shout out to the royal. Shout out.
54:04
Shut up, Bobby Witt. Always.
54:08
And shout out to his teammate. Look out Chris Boobich.
54:22
Craziest season Last name. Chris Boobitch two, and O with
54:33
an ERAF .44 with 21 strikeouts in his last three starts since
54:39
May 8th, according to underdog MLB.
54:42
Chris Boobitch this season. 61 in the 3rd. 61 strikeouts of ERA
54:49
of 147, A WHIP of one O 6. The second lowest ERA through 10
54:54
starts in a season in Royals history.
54:58
Dang dude, that's a nugget. That's a breakout season it.
55:04
Sure is. That's a nugget right there.
55:09
Hail central, bro. Good ball out there.
55:12
Good, good ball out there in the Midwest.
55:17
Some mighty fine baseball being played out there in the Midwest.
55:21
Some blue collar baseball, you know.
55:24
Just some hard nosed, hit the grindstone, old fashioned
55:31
hardball kind of baseball that's right being played out there in
55:35
those fly over states. Working with your hands getting
55:39
dirty. You know the lunch.
55:41
Pail. That's right, going home.
55:45
After a hard day's work cracking a.
55:47
Cold one flipping on the tube. Probably repair something when
55:52
they got home. Probably.
55:53
Fix something? Yeah.
55:55
That's what they're hold a hold a baby in one arm fix.
55:58
Fix the sink in the other. I mean, that's.
56:03
Just that's. That's that's what they do in
56:05
the that's central baseball. Yeah, right now that's what
56:09
we're talking about. Bring it back out east, though.
56:15
Jesus. Lazardo.
56:17
Two and O with an ERA of 138 and 16 strikeouts over his last two
56:22
starts. Optistats says that since ERA
56:27
became official in both leagues in 1913, two MLB lefties have
56:31
gone undefeated with a sub 2 and 10 + K per nine over their first
56:37
ten starts of a season. 1 is the Phillies.
56:42
Jesus Lozardo this year the other.
56:46
Any guesses? I know you weren't listening.
56:52
To me. So just throw out a.
56:53
Really. Jason Dominguez just hit a walk.
56:55
Off to the second deck. That's great.
56:58
Throw out throw. Out just really good lefties.
57:02
Really good lefties from what era?
57:06
Since. 1913. Oh boy, give me Randy.
57:10
Johnson. The other was Randy Johnson.
57:13
Here's a little, let's go. Here's a little like satellite
57:18
credit cannon for Randy Johnson. Little little little secondary
57:26
credit cannon for old Randy. Yeah.
57:30
Other was Randy Johnson, 1995. S Jesus Cesaro was in good
57:34
company with the start that he's had this year and by the way,
57:40
leads pitchers. In both the.
57:45
American League and the National League in war to date and by
57:51
the. Way second on that list.
57:53
Oh Jesus, Lizardo, 29, second on that list at 28.
58:00
Chris Boobich ahead of Hunter Brown in 3rd place Max.
58:07
Frieden 4th Zach William 5th Yeah, just a good a good start
58:13
for the for the lefty on the year.
58:16
As I mentioned, A29 war five and O to start the year 195 ERA and
58:21
a whip of. 115. I think it's weird man.
58:25
I I think the. Phillies are going to have to
58:27
get creative with with filling in some of their gaps because of
58:30
their rotational depth. I it makes me wonder if they
58:34
move somebody from that rotation to to fill in other spots.
58:38
And I don't know what that looks like, but they have they're
58:43
just. So deep rotation.
58:45
Wise that you're like and your bullpen just lost a huge piece.
58:51
He needs some more. Athleticism in the lineup, I.
58:53
They they got to tweak something a little bit.
58:57
I'm just really, really interested to see what they do
59:00
come deadline time. Good for Lizardo too.
59:05
Love to see guys that shine for some garbage organization that
59:09
go and and like prove that that was real somewhere else where it
59:13
matters. Yeah.
59:15
I mean, you know, a guy that could really.
59:16
Benefit from from a change like that.
59:22
Anyway, next cannon actually. No, you know what?
59:25
That that wraps up the credit cannon, but transition here to
59:30
closing the book. Let's just keep it rolling.
59:33
Jared Jones. No, no, I can't mean that's mean
59:37
that's mean that's mean. Well, I mean look, and nobody
59:42
was a bigger Jared Jones fan coming into the season than than
59:45
I, but will actually, no, already underwent.
59:51
I think it was today, right? Underwent surgery today.
59:54
It wasn't TJ. Was it not?
59:59
Was it one of those? Are you sure?
1:00:04
Yeah, it was a UCL sprain. Yeah, it was like the.
1:00:09
The what do they call it? It's like an an alternative.
1:00:15
Like the the brace? Thing like the brace, internal
1:00:17
brace, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not TJI, don't know what that.
1:00:22
Means it's still surgery still. Out for the year, How positive
1:00:25
are we on that? Yep, you're right, internal
1:00:28
brace surgery was successful is already eye in a return will be
1:00:34
back in 2026. You hate to.
1:00:39
See it? Man, I was really.
1:00:41
Really hoping to catch some some Jared Jones starts this year I
1:00:45
thought. I thought the tandem of him and
1:00:47
Skins was going to be just downright electric, especially
1:00:52
with. Both of them building off of.
1:00:54
Great years last year but the last was on track by the way to
1:01:01
come to make it back this year he had been shut down but it was
1:01:06
the when they started extending him distance wise that's when he
1:01:09
started feeling a little discomfort which never good
1:01:13
shout out bridge to. Bucktober, he's, he's always
1:01:16
kind of giving us the pirates updates.
1:01:18
I, I heard that there was like some his dad was kind of
1:01:23
involved with this decision a lot and there was a lot of like
1:01:26
back and forth on surgery or not surgery or not rehab the brace
1:01:33
surgery or TJ like it's been a lot and like honestly, it's just
1:01:38
a lot of wasted time. Well, you know why you got to
1:01:40
bring? I mean, even.
1:01:41
As a professional athlete, you got to bring dad in because you
1:01:44
got to bring dad in. Surely that front office.
1:01:46
Isn't going to. Lead you in the right direction.
1:01:48
So yeah. Yeah.
1:01:50
Dad, what do you think? Yeah, 'cause my front office
1:01:54
sucks. Yeah, last item here.
1:01:58
Kyle Schwarber, 3 hundredth Homer on Monday night in Coors.
1:02:03
An absolute tank. 4. 100 And spare me the Coors Field effect.
1:02:11
I don't care. It was a moon shot.
1:02:13
That's what Kyle Schwarber does 466 feet off the facade of the
1:02:18
third deck. 32 Come on. Really. 32 yeah, 32 and turn 32
1:02:33
in March. It's that contract.
1:02:37
Like, is he supposed to be a free agent?
1:02:38
Next year. I think so because I'm seeing.
1:02:43
A lot of Phillies fans clamoring to keep him around, which,
1:02:46
rightfully so, they should. How?
1:02:49
How big an idiot you got to? He gets paid at 32.
1:02:53
He's going to get paid, Yeah. And especially knowing.
1:02:56
His profile at this point in his career, like, you know, you know
1:02:59
exactly what you're getting. So if it if having 40 bombs in
1:03:05
your lineup appeals to you, then sign up.
1:03:10
Sign up to to join the Kyle Schwarber sweepstakes.
1:03:17
How much idiots do you think the Cubs feel?
1:03:22
That didn't make any sense. How big?
1:03:24
Of idiots. Do you feel like the Cubs feel
1:03:27
like right now? Words.
1:03:33
Words are tough. It's been a long day.
1:03:35
It has which? I'm not going to lie, not great.
1:03:39
I'm. Going to say not great when he
1:03:40
was in. Chicago I could have.
1:03:42
Sworn he was like 35. Yeah, I did too.
1:03:46
Yeah, right. When you said 32, I was like,
1:03:49
Nah, come on. And here we are, like a decade
1:03:51
later and. He's 32, so that math's not math
1:03:54
then. But anyway, yeah, to answer your
1:03:56
question, I I think he gets paid whether or not Big Davey D.
1:04:02
Is going to pony up. That's yet to be determined, but
1:04:05
I I think you can do it for cheap.
1:04:07
I think you if you. Tack on two years.
1:04:11
To let him finish. As a as a Philly, they love them
1:04:15
there. Dude what?
1:04:16
Just it's. It's there's there's certain
1:04:18
guys where it's so sick, like it's so clear cut, like this is
1:04:21
what you need to do. Just make it happen.
1:04:23
Six years. Give him six years that that
1:04:27
sounds. Good to me, I would.
1:04:28
Make that give him six years. Anywhere from 1:00 to 1:20.
1:04:34
I think that gets it done because I don't think anyone
1:04:37
else in the market has given him more than four years.
1:04:42
Yeah, that's fair. Six years.
1:04:45
We'll ride it out for the. Last couple years where it's
1:04:48
probably not going to be great, but like you're you're going to
1:04:51
get close to 500 home runs at that point and we're going to
1:04:53
celebrate you and you're going to retire Philly and it you ride
1:04:57
off into the sunset. That's that's what's wrong with
1:05:00
that. And again talking about this
1:05:02
window. With that, the Phillies are
1:05:05
seemingly up against yeah a closing window with that dare I
1:05:09
say you need this, you need all the support you can get and if
1:05:13
again the the power that he provides that line up is going
1:05:15
to help you, which it most certainly will it has to this
1:05:19
point. Why not keep it around?
1:05:21
Keep him around so David D get it done.
1:05:26
Make this man a A. Philly for the remainder of his.
1:05:28
Career and celebrate 500 down the road.
1:05:35
Oh yeah. It's good.
1:05:38
Sorry, I was in a rather. Talkative mood today.
1:05:40
Sorry for just rambling as much as I did, but the rambling man.
1:05:46
But here we are. The Allman Brothers, by the way.
1:05:49
It's the it's the group that sings that song.
1:05:51
It's a great ditty for, for those who are uncultured and
1:05:54
don't know. Yeah, I, I'm out of here too.
1:05:58
I got to go study. You got to go to bed.
1:06:02
Simple enough, you've been working for like 17.
1:06:04
Hours. It's been a long day, yeah.
1:06:07
But that's what we do. We're here.
1:06:08
We. Deliver.
1:06:09
We're here and we deliver. We deliver.
1:06:14
We're like we're. Like FedEx?
1:06:19
Yeah, I feel. Like UPS is probably, I feel
1:06:23
like they probably or DHL. Even I don't know.
1:06:27
Is DHL still doing it bro? DHL is still doing it.
1:06:32
For who? I just, I don't know who's using
1:06:36
that. Not me, if I ever have.
1:06:37
A choice. I'm all about what Brown can do
1:06:40
for you. What, They still got those?
1:06:43
Little vans, they don't even drive the trucks man DHL is like
1:06:46
Nah. We're going to keep it
1:06:48
efficient. We're going to keep it with the
1:06:50
vans. I feel like they're always,
1:06:52
they're delivering like frozen foods, you know what I mean?
1:06:54
Like it's like weird, like weird one off scenarios where you're
1:06:59
like I I'm going to order a cheesecake from Chicago.
1:07:03
What? I'm going to use DHL and you
1:07:05
know what they do? They deliver.
1:07:07
And it probably shows up perfect.
1:07:08
That's us. We're the DHL of the podcast
1:07:11
game well. We can talk about it.
1:07:16
It's up for grabs. We can talk about.
1:07:17
It yeah, expect us Monday, correct not.
1:07:25
Sunday Papa's going to. Be up in Denver visiting some.
1:07:30
Fam catching the. Yankees, Rockies on Saturday if
1:07:33
you're in Coors Field. Let's let's hang out.
1:07:38
Let's. Well, if you're in the.
1:07:39
Field if you're in the. Field get help because it sounds
1:07:43
like that's a dangerous situation, but you're in it if
1:07:46
you're at there's a big fear to get buried alive, but.
1:07:50
If you're there, if you're in the stadium, if you're in the,
1:07:52
if you're in the situation, you want to come say hi, come say
1:07:57
hi. We'll see him one day.
1:08:04
I don't know. I'm out.
1:08:05
I'm done. I got to go study.
1:08:07
This is crazy. I'm a grown man.
1:08:08
Yeah. You're the one still talking,
1:08:10
man. Do you got?
1:08:11
Do you got to study? I'm getting delirious
1:08:14
curveballs. If you see them.
1:08:17
Typically you don't want to chase them.
1:08:21
We love you all and as always, looking forward to talking more.
1:08:22
Baseball with you guys soon. Until next time, stay filthy.