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"ICE Crisis in Minneapolis" (Thursday, January 8, 2026, Hour 1) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Quick first thing today on the Talk Media Network by
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  Speaker 1: Joe Thomas, the second most famous Thomas and Charlottesville.
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  Speaker 2: Jew Wort's that steal me stem.
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  Speaker 3: You have a day least for work when the sun
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  Speaker 3: comes up, drops a pet to scoop.
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  Speaker 4: Joe has everything a dream do all the.
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  Speaker 5: Jers needs.
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  Speaker 3: The one that Joe's as smiled he only asp.
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  Speaker 6: Joe, thank you for letting us be of service to
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  Speaker 6: you this morning on the radio program that tells you
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  Speaker 6: what went on last night, gives you our analysis of
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  Speaker 6: the evidence left behind in the debris field, and then
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  Speaker 6: of course want to find out how it's impacting you
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  Speaker 6: where you are at four three four eight eight two
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  Speaker 6: four two one seven. That's multitasking. You can text message
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  Speaker 6: there or call in the traditional traditional sense because we
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  Speaker 6: know how mornings are and you don't always have time
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  Speaker 6: to sit and have a conversation. But you can holler
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  Speaker 6: something at voice to text and hit send and we'll
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  Speaker 6: do our level best to give your words all the
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  Speaker 6: gravity you want them to have. And you can also
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  Speaker 6: dot com. It's kind of sad that JT in the
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  Speaker 6: Morning wasn't a sufficient gmail address, but there were forty
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  Speaker 6: two other ones that we're using that and I have
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  Speaker 6: one question, who are you and why are you using
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  Speaker 6: my handle? That being said Q the mayor of Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of information that is swirling around right now,
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  Speaker 2: and we collectively are going to do everything possible to
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  Speaker 2: get to the bottom of this.
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  Speaker 7: Translation.
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  Speaker 6: We don't know anything, but that's not going to stop
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  Speaker 6: me from continuing to talk.
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  Speaker 2: To get justice and to make sure that there is
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  Speaker 2: an investigation that is conducted in full.
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  Speaker 6: But what we do know is that my lawyers have
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  Speaker 6: told me be careful of what I say here because.
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  Speaker 7: We don't know everything that went on.
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  Speaker 6: But I'm going to try to sound like I have
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  Speaker 6: my community's interest at heart is.
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  Speaker 2: That a thirty seven year old woman is dead and
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  Speaker 2: that she was shot by ice.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so far, so good, And he goes on though.
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  Speaker 2: They are already trying to spin this as an action
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  Speaker 2: of self defense.
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  Speaker 6: Now it starts to get to be where the mayor's
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  Speaker 6: lawyers are like, oh.
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  Speaker 7: How are we going to walk this bag?
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  Speaker 2: He said, having seen the video of myself, I want
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  Speaker 2: to tell everybody directly that.
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  Speaker 6: Is because I wasn't there, so I don't know, but
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  Speaker 6: I've seen video shot by somebody who is across the street.
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  Speaker 6: I saw it on YouTube and my TikTok feed, so
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  Speaker 6: I know what's going on there, because that's always the
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  Speaker 6: way to know what's going on.
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  Speaker 7: Trust me on this. I work in this field, mister Mayor.
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  Speaker 2: There's little I can say again that'll make this situation better.
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  Speaker 7: That's not going to stop me from saying lots of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But I do have a message for our community, for
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  Speaker 2: a city, and I have a message for Ice.
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  Speaker 8: Two.
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  Speaker 2: Ice get the out of Minneapolis.
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  Speaker 6: And so the populism begins to get in the way
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  Speaker 6: of investigations, and of course you will get plenty of
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  Speaker 6: and we will cover all the information that we have.
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  Speaker 6: And our populism is born of the idea that it's
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  Speaker 6: most popular to tell you what actually is going on.
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  Speaker 7: So let us do that.
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  Speaker 6: Let's get our first things on the air this morning
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  Speaker 6: for our friends Katie Iz and Minneapolis and all the
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  Speaker 6: way around Minneapolis on Edge this morning.
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  Speaker 7: That much is clear.
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  Speaker 6: After a woman was shot and killed in an interaction
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  Speaker 6: with Immigration and Customs enforcement officers.
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  Speaker 7: As they were.
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  Speaker 6: Working on a crackdown on non citizens living in the
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  Speaker 6: Minneapolis area. The governor has called for people to remain calm,
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  Speaker 6: and schools are canceling classes all across Minnesota. Today is
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  Speaker 6: a safety precaution. State and local officials have demanded as
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  Speaker 6: you just heard ICE leave the state. The victim, thirty
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  Speaker 6: seven year old remained. Nicole Macklin Good, was shot by
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  Speaker 6: Homeland Security officers as her vehicle drove towards one of
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  Speaker 6: the officers. Secretary Christi Nome said agents are not going
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  Speaker 6: anywhere despite the mayor's call, and the Department of Homeland
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  Speaker 6: Security says that more than two thousand ICE officers have
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  Speaker 6: been deployed to the area. Meanwhile, in Salt Lake City,
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  Speaker 6: grieving as two people were killed and six others injured
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  Speaker 6: in a shooting outside of a church of Jesus Christ
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  Speaker 6: of Latter day Saints. Authority say no suspect is in
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  Speaker 6: custody as of now. All the victims were adults. At
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  Speaker 6: least three were injured in critical condition. Police say they
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  Speaker 6: do not believe the shooter had any animis towards the church,
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  Speaker 1: Quickly hundred to do list. Putting the radio on is
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  Speaker 6: Call Saul this morning. Well you better call me four
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  Speaker 6: three four eight eight two four two one seven and
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  Speaker 6: the I certainly don't engender the kind of hatred some
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  Speaker 6: other people do. And to be fair, I don't understand
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  Speaker 6: why people dislike me, but there are people who will
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  Speaker 6: send around pictures, photographs, frozen moments in time. From August
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  Speaker 6: twelfth of seventeen, there was a riot in our flagship city, Charlottesville, Virginia.
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  Speaker 7: And during that.
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  Speaker 6: Rally, grow group of people who had been up to
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  Speaker 6: that point purporting to be conservatives and Republicans exposed themselves
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  Speaker 6: as Nazis, anti Semites, white supremacists, and were all there
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  Speaker 6: really not to support free speech, but to hold a
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  Speaker 6: reunion with their Lord High mugwamp or whatever he's called,
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  Speaker 6: Grand Wizard David Duke. And in the midst of all that,
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  Speaker 6: I was, and I'm surprised by this, This must be
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  Speaker 6: evolutionarily curious. I'm taller than most of the white supremacists
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  Speaker 6: that were here from Ohio and Indiana and places like
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  Speaker 6: that to have their little convention in Charlottesville. So as
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  Speaker 6: CNN and Fox and all the collective news networks went
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  Speaker 6: live to Charlottesville, there was your humble host, head bobbing
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  Speaker 6: above the crowd. I have a fairly bushy ponytail coming
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  Speaker 6: off the back of my head, so I look sort
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  Speaker 6: of like a giant squirrel. And there I was very obvious,
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  Speaker 6: to the point where in the midst of it all,
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  Speaker 6: my sister called me and said, Mom is freaking the
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  Speaker 6: hell out.
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  Speaker 7: What are you doing. I said, I'm trying to cover
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  Speaker 7: a news story.
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  Speaker 6: She goes, Mom is losing her mind because every TV
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  Speaker 6: shot has you in the middle of it. Okay, guilty
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  Speaker 6: as charged, But I needed to be there to know
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  Speaker 6: what happened. Thus I can report to you that these
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  Speaker 6: were not conservative Republicans. These were white supremacists, David Duke
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  Speaker 6: supporters trying to get their white sheet.
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  Speaker 5: On.
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  Speaker 6: That being said, now let's jump to Minneapolis yesterday in
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  Speaker 6: the tragic shooting of a thirty seven year old.
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  Speaker 7: But I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 6: Neither was the mayor of Minneapolis, who at least sort
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  Speaker 6: of admitted that in the beginning of his profanity laced
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  Speaker 6: screed about ice in his city, never minding the discussions
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  Speaker 6: of whether ice was there righteously or not, or what
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  Speaker 6: the activities of the thirty seven year old Ms Good
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  Speaker 6: were prior to the shooting. We don't know, but I
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  Speaker 6: do know, and I can speak conversently of the fact
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  Speaker 6: that many people will send that frozen moment of me
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  Speaker 6: covering a news story to advertisers potential or actual advertisers
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  Speaker 6: on this program and supporters of my radio stations and stuff,
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  Speaker 6: and say you can't advertise on his show, Oh will
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  Speaker 6: tell the whole world you support Nazis. Look there he
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  Speaker 6: is in a crowd of Nazis. Because it's a frozen
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  Speaker 6: moment in time with no context and no ability to know,
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  Speaker 6: and many people way too busy to spend the time
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  Speaker 6: to go and investigate this kind of thing. So let's say, oh, gosh, gee,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't know that. I better not advertise on Joe's
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  Speaker 6: radio program. And why do they do it? Why do
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  Speaker 6: they do it because it works so in frozen moments
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  Speaker 6: in time, you're sitting there just like the mayor of Minneapolis,
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  Speaker 6: without the context, without knowing what the verbal interactions between
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  Speaker 6: this woman and the ice agents were, what our intentions were.
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  Speaker 6: We do know, as our friends at WGSO and New
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  Speaker 6: Orleans can tell you, a vehicle can do an awful
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  Speaker 6: lot of damage if driven into a crowd or even
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  Speaker 6: just an individual person. So while there are people saying, well,
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  Speaker 6: was he in danger, I don't know. How have you
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  Speaker 6: ever had an SUV driving towards you at any speed?
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  Speaker 6: I mean several thousand pounds of steel and plastic and
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  Speaker 6: aluminum coming down at you. It doesn't have to be
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  Speaker 6: going fifty five miles an hour to cause grievous damage.
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  Speaker 6: So the question remains is what was the context of
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  Speaker 6: the interaction. What was the officer saying to the driver,
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  Speaker 6: room is good before she hit the gas and drove
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  Speaker 6: towards the ice officer, putting him in a position to
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  Speaker 6: discharge his firearm. These are the facts, and even the
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  Speaker 6: Minneapolis mayor, before he launched into his profanity laced high rate,
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  Speaker 6: had to admit as such. We'll see if he stands
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  Speaker 6: behind the idea of getting to the bottom of it,
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  Speaker 6: which is always something they say, but it doesn't sound
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  Speaker 6: like it. Since then, as more protests gripped the streets,
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  Speaker 6: and schools are closed and businesses are closed, and we'll
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  Speaker 6: see if we have a re enactment of the mostly
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  Speaker 6: peaceful protests of twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: Good morning, You're on the air with Joe. First thing
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  Speaker 7: this morning. Who's this? Hey? This is Moscow, Bob, Hi Bob?
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  Speaker 7: How are you sir?
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  Speaker 19: Doing pretty good? Hey? Got a perfect solution to Minnesota's
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  Speaker 19: problem Okay, let's listen and do exactly what the mayor
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  Speaker 19: and governor Kim Walt said that he doesn't need Trump's help.
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  Speaker 19: He doesn't need the federal government's help and to get
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  Speaker 19: the hell out.
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  Speaker 6: Now, would that include financially, well, would would that include
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  Speaker 6: the money?
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  Speaker 7: So like, if you don't want the government's help.
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  Speaker 19: Yes, effective immediately, we will withdraw all federal employees from
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  Speaker 19: the state of Minnesota, and we will withdraw all funding
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  Speaker 19: for any for anything, you will get no more government
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  Speaker 19: fund That means you will have no TSA at the airports,
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  Speaker 19: which means effectively your airports are shut down because until
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  Speaker 19: you can come up with the money to fund it,
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  Speaker 19: we cannot have airlines flying into your state because there's
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  Speaker 19: no TSA. You could be letting a bomb on board.
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  Speaker 19: So effective immediately, no air shipments, no air travels, no FedEx,
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  Speaker 19: no ups, no nothing comes into your state. You want
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  Speaker 19: us out, We're out.
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  Speaker 7: Yep. It's call them onto the carpet with their own words.
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  Speaker 6: I love the idea, especially as you said, you know,
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  Speaker 6: we'll take the police out. We're going to take all
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  Speaker 6: the money that the police are there with as well,
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  Speaker 6: and the schools. The schools you're going to probably have
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  Speaker 6: to be closed. And what about all the people who
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  Speaker 6: are scamming the government out of money? What are they
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  Speaker 6: going to do with money if we pull all the
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  Speaker 6: federal government money out.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, they're going to have to pray that the Somali
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  Speaker 19: government and the terrible people and to send money back
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  Speaker 19: to them to support them. But no, I think honestly
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  Speaker 6: You had to love the ability for folks, the multifaceted ones,
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  Speaker 6: to be able to use spin And I'll use the
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  Speaker 6: words of the Minneapolis mayor spin stories that you know,
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  Speaker 6: when the Branch Davidians Compound or Ruby Ridge happens.
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  Speaker 7: Oh well, these were crazies who.
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  Speaker 6: Were on the fringe, and you know, the authorities had
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  Speaker 6: to come in for you know what authorities have to
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  Speaker 6: enforce citizenship, and we don't know if this woman trying
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  Speaker 6: to find out for sure whether she was a member
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  Speaker 6: of one of these you know called protests, because this
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  Speaker 6: of Minneapolis aren't held accountable for subborting these flash mon
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  Speaker 6: that are called into action every time they hear of
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  Speaker 6: an ice operation going on somewhere. I don't know how
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  Speaker 7: I don't roll like that.
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  Speaker 6: I can't divert my eyes from my own gaze that
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  Speaker 6: to look myself in the face if I was that
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  Speaker 6: kind of disingenuous with you, especially at four three four
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  Speaker 6: eight A two four to two one seven. There are many,
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  Speaker 6: Electronics Show, and it's a part of it.
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  Speaker 16: You know.
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  Speaker 7: It's interesting.
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  Speaker 6: Five six years ago, citizen journalism was a big part
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  Speaker 6: Not so much this year, not so much. They don't
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  Speaker 6: like citizen journalism anymore. They want to push down on it.
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  Speaker 6: But then something like this happens, and oh, everybody, he's
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  Speaker 6: But if you if you take a picture of a
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  Speaker 7: But enough about that.
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  Speaker 6: We will get into a lot of other stories, including
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  Speaker 6: get your thoughts not just on Minneapolis, but Salt Lake City.
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  Speaker 6: What's going on in the parking lot of this Mormon church.
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  Speaker 6: The police say, that's oh, it's not about the faith,
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  Speaker 6: So was it? People specific? The police seemed to think
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  Speaker 21: Good morning, Joe. I'm okay, I'm doing okay. I wanted
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  Speaker 21: to say this and let me let me get all
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  Speaker 21: this out real quick. So we're human beings. God didn't
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  Speaker 21: just invent a robot or a computer. He invented somebody
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  Speaker 7: Or was an adult.
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  Speaker 21: And it's not a self driving car. That's a car
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  Speaker 21: the media is going to spend it as well. Why
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  Speaker 21: were they out there. They're not protecting anything, They're just
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  Speaker 21: away their federal funds. But that's a violation of Article
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  Speaker 21: for I think where states have to work. I mean,
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  Speaker 21: honor each state. But they also can't they can't take
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  Speaker 21: away the states' rights, but the states have to honor
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  Speaker 21: the federal government too, So in that respect, those laws
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  Speaker 21: are set up by the federal government. As far as aliens,
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  Speaker 21: these people, a lot of these people are illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 21: It means they broke the law commune into America and
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  Speaker 21: they're not citizens. And whatever she was out there doing,
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  Speaker 21: she broke the law herself. She may be an American citizen,
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  Speaker 21: but she's breaking the law and they were trying to
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  Speaker 21: enforce it. And you have split saysm split decisions to
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  Speaker 21: make within seconds. And like you said, that's not just
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  Speaker 7: You know, a couple of points in what you were saying.
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  Speaker 6: Number number one, I think what Bob was saying is,
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  Speaker 6: in there, and it's a rule of law, and this
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  Speaker 6: First thing today, that's our first We were listening to
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  Speaker 6: you trusted us. That could be Glenn Fry, the mayor
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  Speaker 6: of not Jacob. That could be the mayor of Minneapolis's
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  Speaker 6: statement right there, you peeped up, you trusted us. We
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  Speaker 6: told you we were going to do all these things.
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  Speaker 7: Uh for you? There quick answer to it, open question.
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  Speaker 2: There's a lot of information that is swirling around right now,
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  Speaker 6: Okay, Jacob Fry, mayor of Minneapolis. You know, I like
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  Speaker 2: They are already trying to spin this as an action
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  Speaker 7: So let me take that before we get back to
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  Speaker 6: And I mean, we've got so many folks going on,
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  Speaker 6: doing that at an electronics show technology fest there?
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  Speaker 7: But here here in lies one of the questions.
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  Speaker 6: So since the mayor brought up spin, so if you
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  Speaker 6: go digging to see if there was a protest going on,
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  Speaker 6: you know, one of these, Hey, everybody, ICE.
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  Speaker 7: Is coming.
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  Speaker 6: Flash mobs, the Independent. I love this spin. You'll get
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  Speaker 6: dizzy from this. I may warn you you might want
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  Speaker 6: to sit down to grab your equilibriy by equilibrium, by
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  Speaker 6: both handles. There was no organized ICE protest in Minneapolis
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  Speaker 6: when the woman was shot. The incident was a result
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  Speaker 6: of an immigration enforcement operation, and the woman was shot
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  Speaker 6: by an ICE agent in self defense after attempting to
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  Speaker 6: run over ICE officers. The Minneapolis City Council described the
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  Speaker 6: woman as a resident who was out here it comes,
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  Speaker 6: caring for her neighbors. When she was shot and killed.
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  Speaker 6: Now that's code. That's how these protests get called out.
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  Speaker 6: Look after your neighbors. They're coming to round up your neighbors.
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  Speaker 6: Whether or not they're citizens or not seems to be irrelevant.
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  Speaker 21: They were like you said, it was a slow trickle,
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  Speaker 7: Is that how you say that? You, Saul Olinski? It's alis, Yeah,
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  Speaker 21: I mean, I mean a lot of these people. She
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  Speaker 21: was thirty seven. I think you were saying too. The
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  Speaker 21: ages go now from like probably I don't know, eighteen
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  Speaker 21: to thirty five, forty. But you also have to look
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  Speaker 21: at a lot of these older people too, the blue
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  Speaker 21: hairs and the people in their seventies and even late eighties.
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  Speaker 21: I mean when I was growing up, I was born
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  Speaker 21: out there now they're probably in their eighties. Because I
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  Speaker 21: was only seven years old, or if they're still alive,
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  Speaker 21: that half of these people protesting your older or at
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  Speaker 21: that age that I was saying eighteen, then maybe forty.
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  Speaker 6: I But that's what's happened is is it's self interest.
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  Speaker 6: This is why I brought up our seven vices, our
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  Speaker 6: inability to live up with the simplest of the you know,
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  Speaker 6: five or six commandments that don't involve a particular church.
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  Speaker 7: We can't even follow them.
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  Speaker 6: And so the idea of being self governing is a dangerous,
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  Speaker 6: volatile concoction right now, Joel, because enough of us, and
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  Speaker 7: Rule of law.
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  Speaker 6: And we've been driven here by a government that acts,
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  Speaker 6: against the citizens when its original construct was supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be to support the citizen's right to a speedy and
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  Speaker 6: fair trial. Yeah, a quote I heard during the Nick
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  Speaker 6: Reiner hearings yesterday. But I'm just saying that that there
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  Speaker 6: we'll hold it. We have three times as many people
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  Speaker 6: So now our courts are overwhelmed and we're charging people
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  Speaker 6: up state's evidence.
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  Speaker 7: On someone else.
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  Speaker 6: And we're you know, we've become such a mass of law.
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  Speaker 6: We keep writing new laws that that leave us in
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  Speaker 6: this density that justice itself cannot escape. And this is
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  Speaker 6: why there's such a mania. And I think truly on
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  Speaker 6: both sides.
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  Speaker 21: Joe, what about the Mariland man, he's an illegal alien,
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  Speaker 21: He was a human trafficker, and he also ran drugs
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  Speaker 21: and how he's walking around free.
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  Speaker 7: But don't you think he has a right to do that? Joel,
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  Speaker 7: don't you a human right? A human right?
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  Speaker 6: I understand, I understand. I'm tweaking you because George willyd
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  Speaker 21: And I bet you know they're going to parallel some way.
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  Speaker 6: Did well, and you're right to say decisions because she
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  Speaker 6: was there as part She was there as the spin
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  Speaker 6: even the individual.
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  Speaker 7: She was there caring for her neighbors. That's code.
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  Speaker 6: That was one of these flash mobs called out to
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