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Week 10 Preview | LSU Fires Kelly, Utah-Cincy, UT-OU, Texas-Vandy, and more · The Extra Point

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What's up y'all, you're listening to the Extra Point
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College football podcast. I'm your host Jacob Karn, joined
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as always by my Co host Daniel Hammock.
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Daniel, today's episode are four quarters for our in season show.
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We'll talk about one thing we learned this weekend. 2
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questions we have moving forward.
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You know this is not our full time job Daniel.
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So we're recording this on Monday.
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XPR will still come out tomorrow, but we will not talk
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about it on the episode. If you're listening on Tuesday,
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XPR is out. We just won't talk about it
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because it's not ready yet as we're recording.
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Still waiting on some of these computer models to spit out some
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good numbers, but it's almost there.
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We'll have minimal change because a lot of teams won that
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should have this past weekend. We'll talk about three games
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we're not picking. We're excited to watch as far as
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well as 3U matchups. We're excited to watch this
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weekend and then 4 picks against the spread for this weekend's
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four biggest games. Daniel, how you doing?
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You ready for for week 10? They were ready.
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This is kind of the time of the season, Jacob, that we get to
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the end of October. November is about to start.
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I start thinking, man, you get so into the season that you're
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like, oh, I can't wait to see this next week of games.
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I can't wait to see this next week of games.
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We only got one more full month of regular games before bowl
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season and all that kind of stuff.
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Crazy playoffs. And it's just like, dude, don't
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wish it away, Enjoy every Saturday.
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That's why if somebody invites you to a party, if someone
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invites you to a wedding, dude, they are selfish.
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All right, I'm not going to get on the whole soapbox about all
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of this, but. Just say no.
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Probably a bad person if they're asking you to do something like
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that. You only get technically 12 of
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these if you're just going off of your team's games regular
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season. But dude, what?
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14 weeks of the regular season we're at Week 10.
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You only got four more after this before championships.
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Dude, come on. Just savor every ounce of
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college football you get, brother.
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This is the last Saturday before CFP rankings come out, so just
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keep that in mind as well for those who subscribe.
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But my goodness, just just enjoy every moment, every rivalry,
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every game that doesn't look like it deserves to be on there.
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Imagine yourself in May begging for Kennesaw State versus Utah.
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Think about that. OK, that's what I'm going to
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say. I love it.
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Will you be on site tomorrow night for Kennesaw State versus
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Utah? We got credentials.
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We are not going to be there. OK, have some other prior
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commitments. So fortunately won't be there
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watching the. State.
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Yeah, she's been good to us. They've been good to us, so
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shout out to the Owls favorite tomorrow night.
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Who knows? You're 2IN FBS win the
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Conference USA. If they win tomorrow night,
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they're officially ball eligible for the first time in in FBS.
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So that's right, it's time so. I love it, Daniel, what's one
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thing you learned after this past weekend?
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In that same vein of me, basically, you know, ranting and
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raving about this season, guys, Vanderbilt's not a Cinderella
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story. They are, but they're not.
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This team is going away, OK, at least in the sense that
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Vanderbilt normally does. Normally, Vanderbilt's already
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dropped two, three games at this point.
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So the fact that they've lasted this long is amazing.
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And it should not be diminished if they lose to Texas, which
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we're going to pick that game later.
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It should not be diminished if you lose to some of these other
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teams that are on the schedule. Tennessee is a really good team
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this year. Texas is underachieved, but
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they're still a phenomenal roster and they've got a lot of
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talent. They're favored in that game.
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Jacob, we've talked about a lot about history for Vanderbilt.
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So what I'm saying is Vanderbilt's making history and
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we need to pay attention. That's my thing I learned.
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But a lot of people are talking long term historical context.
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I've got something for the young people.
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All right, people who are CFP babies, how about this?
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They have never been ranked in the CFP rankings.
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Wrap your head around that. Vanderbilt has never been ranked
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in the CFP rankings. Like not in the top 20?
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Not in the top 25 because you think about it, Vanderbilt has
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usually lost a couple games by then.
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And nobody's going to put like if Bama loses a couple of games,
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they're still going to get a little cachet, a little respect.
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Georgia loses a couple, maybe same thing.
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Ohio State all year upper, you know, Texas, Vandy, they get a
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couple losses on them, man, you can't dump them fast enough.
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So they have never been ranked. You know, they've only had CFP
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since 2014. They're they're going to be
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ranked if they if they're going to be ranked even higher, But
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dude, if they lose to Texas, they'll still be ranked.
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So like, let's take this in. This is a different season for
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them. They have made it not in the
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first three weeks being 3 and O. It's like, no, there was it 7
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and one at this point. Just think about that like it's
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it's something to be reverent about for Vanderbilt.
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Shout out. They're also they are.
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It's their highest AP ranking ever at 9.
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They've been 10 before that was tied. 9 is their highest ever AP
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ranking. Again, history being made at
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Vanderbilt this year. Daniel, My one thing I learned
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it's a funny one is hey, don't go to the field, slash rush the
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field before the clock hit zero. And look, we've joked about
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this. If you're, if you're listening
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to this podcast, you're a big college football fan.
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And if you're listening to any sports podcast, you're probably
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a big sports fan. Just common thing, Look, sports
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fans are weird people. They're superstitious.
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All right? Do do we really think that
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moving chairs affects the outcome of the game?
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We absolutely and rationally do, because it does affect the
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outcome of the game. Where you sit matters.
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The way your hat is matters. I mean, Daniel, what?
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You're holding matters what you're wearing.
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Yes, how you're sitting. Look, we don't, we don't run
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from this. You and I are Georgia fans.
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I went to the Ole Miss Georgia game with our buddy Hunter and
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when the fourth quarter started, we turned our hats backwards.
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Daniel, we just said, you know what, maybe this is what we
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needed in Georgia. Went on a 17 nothing run in the
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fourth quarter and they got nice guy sitting next to us.
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I'm going to forget his name now.
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Nice guy, older dude. When Georgia took the lead, he
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looked at me and said I undid my top button proudly.
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Like as in like when we started the fourth quarter, I undid my
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top button in like. I've heard since several people
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be like, I moved seats. A former Co worker of ours was
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like I stood up and then remain standing for the fourth quarter.
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This is this is every fan base. Pick up my son.
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I picked up my son and held him for the fourth quarter right we
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all. Everyone does this yes, everyone
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does this. You try something.
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If things are going well, then they don't you you start to
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think about what did you do before.
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All that being said, Daniel, it was very funny to watch Brandon
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Walker because he broke one of sports most important rules,
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which is look, he, he was on the field, went to the suite.
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Mississippi State starts rolling and he goes down to the field
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because he wants to be there when, when they beat Texas and
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Texas comes storming back and then to have the winning
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touchdown be in front of his face was very funny.
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And then look, this is all related, but my, my one thing I
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learned is don't go to the field too early because also South
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Carolina students were crowded on the field trying to be there
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like first ones to rush the field.
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Bam, it comes back. They they get touchdown.
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They they need the two point to tie.
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They get it. They didn't score again to make
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it a touchdown game. And all these students are left
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having to exit through the tunnel because they've gotten
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down near the fence to rush the field.
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This is just a classic sports thing, Daniel.
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Just don't, don't do stuff too early, man.
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Don't get out of the field too early.
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Don't try to rush the field too early.
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Games not over to the clock at 0.
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Most sports fans know this. You just, hey, you do what
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you've been doing, you do what's working.
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Game's not over till it's over. And unfortunately some, some fan
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bases learned that on Saturday. It's been and especially this
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year, man, it's been a crazy season.
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So it's not over till it's over. Got to wait till that clock got
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4 zeros on it, then you go celebrate.
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Then you can change whatever you were doing.
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So shout out to South Carolina and Mississippi State crushing
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losses on Saturday late at the hands of some SEC blue bloods.
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Felt bad for some, not not so much for others, but just funny
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to watch. That was documented too.
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So that's what I learned. Daniel, 2 questions moving
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forward, what you got? Yeah, here in the second
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quarter, man, my first question, it might seem obvious to some,
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should Texas say in it be considered the SEC favorite or
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front runner? I think that's such an easy
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layup if you just ask it like that.
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But let's be real about it, man, Most people are thinking about
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Georgia who won the SEC last year.
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Even when they were down and out, they're still alive.
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Obviously for it. Alabama who beat Georgia and
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continues to beat Georgia, like Alabama, they're still alive.
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I mean, they didn't look amazing.
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But you know, you, you start, you always look at the losses
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and the, you know, and who's who's around.
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But Texas A&M still unbeaten. This game was a statement.
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I think you're probably about to talk about it a little bit.
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So I'm going to leave meat on the bone there.
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But a game that at halftime you and I were texting about and I
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was like, dude, LSU might be the team of the week.
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They were ahead at halftime. I was thinking, man, if they win
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this game, sure enough, my team of the week, you know, we'll get
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to that in a little bit, but comes from the game, but it's
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not. LSUI was thoroughly impressed
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with Texas A&M. Their resolve and I think that
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they can, they're a complete team.
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I think they play defense, they could play offense.
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They got good special teams and got good coaching staff.
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Think they're hungry. They've got good resources.
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So you talk program wise, not just the the players and stuff,
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they've got a good healthy program.
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They got a good fan base. They got a great home field
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advantage. OK, remaining schedule.
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I mean, what's it what they got left?
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They got a bye week, then they've got Missouri.
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No disrespect to Missouri, but I think Texas A&M is capable of
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winning that game comfortably well.
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Supposed to be. The I'm not going to sit here,
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not going to sit here and count wins.
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I do think Missouri's OK at quarterback.
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I think Matthew Zollers is going to be a star, but that it is
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what is so freshman and then they get South Carolina at home.
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I think still a great game, great atmosphere.
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You saw or what South Carolina can do when they play their
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best. But still then they get Sanford
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and then of course big match up in DKR against Texas and they
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got to get that monkey off their back.
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That being said, man, they undefeated is absolutely it's
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obviously you've got to be undefeated now to still have it
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be part of you know, is it possible?
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But I would I would say it's probable at this point is what I
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would argue based on what their remaining schedule is because
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they get locked into a game with Texas.
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I mean, they've got all the firepower on the Texas A&M side
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that they had, you know, I mentioned special teams.
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They had the the part returned for a touchdown.
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The Marcel Reeves just playing great ball.
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They can run the ball, they throw the ball defensively,
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think they can get stops and that Jacob we talked about at
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the beginning of the year, blue chip ratio.
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They're one of the teams that we both mentioned.
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Would we be surprised? We would say, hey, it's not
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common, but would we be surprised if they were a team
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that won the SEC? They could do it.
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So man, we got to start thinking about them differently.
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I think we probably have, but it's still that subconscious I
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think of we'll see you what they do if they play Alabama or
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Georgia, well, they're not on the schedule.
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They probably would have to play them in the SEC championship if
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that were to happen. But they're not on the schedule
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right now, so A&M, man, that might be the top seeded SEC team
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come playoff time. Yeah, I of course there's
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there's not infinite options if who can play for the SEC
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Championship, but I will say I've there's a great website,
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bball.nothing.net. You can pick who wins each game
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and it will give you the conference order to finish.
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If every I'll see if the top three went out because right now
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the everyone's pretty, everybody's pretty much thinking
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it's Alabama, Texas A&M, Georgia, those three, right, Two
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of the three will go to Atlanta. If everyone wins out, obviously
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it's Alabama and A&M undefeated in conference play.
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If Texas A&M does lose, Georgia goes if Georgia wins out.
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So if you know, if it comes down to Texas A&M versus Georgia, it
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will have to go the tiebreaker. And that's going to be a
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Georgia, Alabama SEC Championship.
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After the season of parody, how funny, how fitting I didn't see
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something we're. Going to am I right?
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We're going to have like a 2007 level of parody season followed
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by like a national championship of Ohio State and Alabama,
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aren't we? Or something like that, which is
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funny. So yeah, Texas A and MI think
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should be the front runner. They look like a very complete
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football team. I need to see it.
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I believe. I need to see like, let's see
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them finish. Daniel, let me ask you this.
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What percentage chance, what did you get that they beat Missouri?
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They are that I go. No, 75%.
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I mean, I'm trying on the road to conservative.
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OK, what about South Carolina? They get them in their
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Aggieland. I got 80%.
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There and then. What about at Texas?
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You didn't give me Sanford. 99% for Sanford.
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Doesn't matter for for conference.
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Conference CFP. If they lose to Sanford, they're
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going to take a hit, mind you, OK, but no yes SEC so for Texas,
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I it's at Texas. It's a big time head matchup OK,
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I say they're 55%. I think they're going to win,
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but 55 percent, 45% is my which if it's a presidential race,
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that's a great margin. OK, But you're talking about,
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you know, college football game that can swing on one turnover
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man. Yeah, so that gives us, sorry,
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I'm doing quick math here. You basically think they're
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going to get 2.1 win through that.
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Like again, this is where it was a team's favor.
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You don't count that as a win. You got to think about like
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percent chance to win that game. You're saying they went two out
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two out of three, which is still an 11 to one season, which is
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again what, a season for Texas A&M at 11 and one.
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I want to come back about the LSU because this is related.
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Which conference races create the bracket Buster?
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Because here's what could it could happen both ways.
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You have you have an AAC race or they don't call it that anymore.
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I think it's just the American what they changed it to.
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They changed it, yeah. You got 2 lane USF in Memphis.
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Now USF has two losses, but only one of those is in conference to
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Memphis straight like head to head Memphis also play Tulane.
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Like the winner of that game is going to go basically if Memphis
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beats Tulane, it's Memphis and Tulane.
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I think if they went out and then if Tulane beats Memphis,
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it's Tulane and USF who have not played each other.
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It's like that's going to have one spot, right?
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But here's kind of my as I'm mapping out, the end of the year
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is right now, it looks like you're going to have four or
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five SEC teams. My prediction a few weeks ago,
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Daniel, was that no one was going to get out of the SEC with
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less than two losses. The closer we get to the end of
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the season, that is looking less likely because, again, Texas
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A&M, that means they got to lose 2 of their last four remaining
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games for the 8 no or seven or no they OK Yeah, they've got to
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go 2 and 2 the rest of the way. That looks unlikely.
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Alabama losing one more could definitely happen.
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They've got a few more tough games, right?
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Georgia definitely could lose one more, but they've made it
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past Ole Miss. That was kind of like a big
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hump. They got a rivalry game this
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weekend. We're going to talk about still
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going to play Texas, but it's at home.
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They're playing Georgia Tech in a, you know, quote UN quote
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neutral site game. We'll see how neutral it really
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is. It is it is away from Athens.
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So but staying in the state, they don't go far.
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I think that you're going to have like 5 or 6 zero or one
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loss SEC in Big 10 schools. And So what I think that's going
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to do is let's just say, let's say Georgia Tech finishes at 10
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and 2, Daniel, let's say they lose to Miami in the in the ACC
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championship game. I think the amount of 0 and one
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loss SEC in Big 10 schools keeps A-Team like that out on top of
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the fact that you had what happened to SMU last year.
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These are people, these are humans.
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That's going to be in the back of their mind.
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I'm not saying it should. So are.
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You saying they're all they're 10 and three or they're 11 and.
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Ten and three, they're 10 and 30, but again, let's say they're
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11 and 2 and Daniel it's Georgia Tech or A10 and two Tennessee,
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whose 2 losses are on the road to Alabama, who is, we'll say
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one loss SEC champ or and then the other one to Georgia by
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three in overtime at home who's 11 and one who missed the SEC
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championship. And then you've got Georgia
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Tech, who probably has the same in that scenario, probably the
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same loss as Tennessee and then another loss to a much worse
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team than Alabama and then to Miami or Georgia Tech wins in
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Miami's ten and two right and 10 and two Miami's getting left
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out. So I just think there's this is
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the expanded playoff fascinating scenarios of you still can't
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have a bracket Buster. Clemson last year won the the
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ACC championship. They're kicking out like an
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Alabama because they got that automatic qualifier.
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There will be some fascinating questions down the road of like
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conferences affecting each other in spots, especially at large
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spots since you still have the five conference champs getting
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in. So that'll be fun to watch down
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the road. Dana, what is your second
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question as we move forward? Yeah, mine is.
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Will anyone challenge Ohio State before the Big 10 championship
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game? I think it's fair to start
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looking ahead for them. Obviously, we are a podcast that
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calls balls and strikes. Look, hey, let's call it fair.
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Michigan's won four in a row against Ohio State.
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We will both tell you. Now we're going to pick Michigan
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against them. I'm picking Michigan.
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I'm making you pick Michigan when we pick that game.
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I'm picking them. We're picking Michigan.
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Said I'm doing it. I'm picking Michigan.
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And then we will both be wrong because Ohio State's going to
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throttle them, but we're going to pick Michigan, OK, But the
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the rest of their schedule, they play Penn State this weekend.
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You wouldn't know it by looking at our picks because we're not
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picking them at Penn State. The spreads what?
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20 1/2 points. About to say yeah.
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Purdue, I'm not even going to give that any airtime, OK?
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UCLA the fighting Jerry Neuheisel's He's not even their
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head coach. But is this pause the podcast
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real quick? Who is UCLA's interim coach?
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Go ahead and see if he can answer that because not even
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media outlets are showing their head coach on the broadcast.
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I forget his name, is it Tim Dozier or something like that?
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No, it's Oh my God, Jim Brooks. No, dude, now I'm going to
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embarrass myself. Jake, if you can't ask me that
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and then not know it is Tim. Tim Skipper.
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Tim Skipper, There you go. Tim Skipper.
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There was like, it is Tim. I got his first name, Tim.
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I did change it to Jim when you questioned me.
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Tim Skipper. At they posted a picture after
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their loss of Tim Skipper and it was like after every win there's
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pictures of, you know, Neuheisel and then now they've lost the
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person, the real head coach. So Cinderella story's over, man.
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That's right, Tim Skipper. Shout out to Tim Skipper, man.
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Dude, he's. Doing a heck of a job.
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He was smart to put Jerry Neuheisel as a play caller.
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Yeah, the other guy wasn't doing that.
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Good job, Tim Skipper. All right.
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Penn State, Purdue, UCLA, Rutgers.
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OK. And then Michigan?
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And then Michigan, so 11:00 and 1:00.
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Where they're going to lose to Michigan.
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Yeah, on the road at Michigan. At Dave Portnoy dude but
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seriously like Penn State was supposed to be one of these
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challenging games. It's not it's not looking like
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it's going to be trust me, we'll all be tuned in, but is it going
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to be we'll see Purdue they haven't challenged like Cass
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high school man, they don't even know what's going on UCLAI mean
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if UCLA that would be the ultimate story of redemption
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them to beat Ohio State. But.
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I'm not going to start believing in something like that
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happening. Rutgers, you know, it is what it
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is in the Michigan. So obviously I am waiting on
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bated breath to see Indiana and Ohio State because those two, I
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mean, that's going to be a great Big 10 championship game.
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And I think that this year's Indiana versus this year's Ohio
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State's actually really good game versus what happened last
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year. So I'm very excited for that
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game. I just don't know if if Ohio
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State's going to be challenged. It's it's hurting me because I
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want to talk Ohio State on the pod.
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I want to kind of get, you know, I feel like we touched them at
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the beginning. Look at look at their scores of
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their games. The only single digit score was
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against Texas Week 1. They've been on another planet
21:04
forever. And I no disrespect to Ohio
21:07
State because I'm not going to disrespect someone winning by
21:09
double digits, but like the teams that they've played have
21:12
just been crappy teams. It's not Ohio State's fault.
21:16
Ohio State's a good team. We don't know how good because
21:18
the teams they played have not been good and they've been
21:21
destroying them. So at least running comfortably
21:24
OK. I think I think Illinois and
21:26
Washington are very like top 20 level teams and I think we're
21:31
like, oh, they're not that good. Ohio State dismantled them.
21:35
I'd say top 20 for Washington, top 25 for Illinois or top 30
21:38
still like they're beating good teams.
21:43
They're not being, it's not every week.
21:44
But like those are two that I'll say dismantled an opponent and
21:47
they're controlling. They must not have been that
21:48
good. So it's not even like, you know,
21:51
so again, I'm respecting Ohio State.
21:54
I'm just saying like it's they played Texas and now we see what
21:57
Texas is. But like you and I know that the
22:00
college football doesn't work like that.
22:02
It's they're playing that game. It's the ultimate everything
22:05
game. Yeah.
22:07
And they're playing it tight. They have a new quarterback
22:09
themselves. It is what it is.
22:10
I'm not holding that against them that they only beat them by
22:12
7. But the rest of your schedule I
22:15
I'm excited to see. The thing is, is I just feel
22:17
like this is a mystery that we're still yet to unlock who
22:22
Ohio State is as season goes on. Honestly, the Michigan game I
22:25
think is when we find out are they real or are they fake?
22:28
Because they haven't beaten them since 2019.
22:30
You know, I went to an Ohio State game in 2019.
22:32
They've not beaten Michigan since.
22:34
Am I the reason? Am I the reason?
22:36
I think it's a fair question. If Ohio State was to bring us
22:39
up, they. Should fly you out.
22:40
Credentials is all I'm saying. I'm happy to get.
22:42
On if they knew what they were doing, they would do it.
22:46
They would get this Southern fried clown on the on the best
22:49
Delta flight up to Columbus, in this case Ann Arbor, but.
22:54
I wear that that Michigan this. Year, right?
22:56
It's at Michigan. Yeah.
22:57
OK. OK.
22:58
Daniel, we were 25 minutes in. It's time to talk about it.
23:01
LSU was fired. Brian Kelly, my question is, who
23:05
does LSU hire? Because you and I did a job
23:08
breaking a few years ago. We talked about on last episode
23:10
of the episode before that it's time to redo a job ranking
23:14
because I think that has probably changed since we last
23:19
did it because the sports changed.
23:21
Let me tell you what hasn't changed.
23:22
LSU is a bona fide top five job. I think it is a top three job.
23:27
And I think you could argue to some it might be the best job in
23:31
the country. I think LSU is that level job.
23:35
This is this is the job that we'll see.
23:37
Like I think they get a top dog more than if.
23:41
I mean, I say if more than Florida coming open, more than
23:44
Auburn coming open, more than an Oklahoma, a Penn State, this is
23:49
the top job. I think you're going to see when
23:52
you hear names like Marcus Freeman.
23:56
Don't turn your nose up at that. Now, here's the thing.
23:58
Here's where decision makers are dumb.
24:01
Does LSU say, no, we already tried hiring the Notre Dame
24:04
coach because this people do, Daniel.
24:07
They say, oh, we have the offensive guy.
24:09
Well, now we got to go get a defensive guy.
24:12
You know, the office of guy didn't wear it.
24:14
Makes no sense. That's so dumb.
24:16
But when you hear names like we're going to go to Marcus
24:20
Freeman, don't laugh at that because LSU was a top three job
24:24
in the country. This is this is the job dating
24:26
that we said we said it a few weeks ago.
24:27
He would take this job. I think I think like Florida was
24:31
that you should say it Ole Miss, I think LSU go leave for.
24:33
I joked in our group chat that, you know, this is the type of
24:37
job that would at least make Nick Saban smile thinking about
24:40
it. You know that's yeah.
24:42
Matt Campbell. I know.
24:43
So, you know, I know he doesn't have the, you know, the sparkles
24:47
he had a few years ago. And Matt Campbell's a good
24:50
football coach. Kenny Dillingham knows he had
24:53
his alma mater, but this is LSU. Jeff Brom at Louisville.
24:57
How about this, Daniel? How about Joe Brady part of
25:00
that? You know, did they go get
25:02
somebody who was a part of that magical 2019 season, the one
25:05
who, you know, mesmerized with his pass offense was not even
25:10
the OC that year. He was the passing game
25:12
coordinator Anyway. So I I'm fascinated to see who
25:15
takes this job. You haven't even made this.
25:18
Odds on favorite Jacob, Did you see who the betting favorite is?
25:22
John Sumrall And again, I think like.
25:25
I don't think so either. It's the LSU thing, though.
25:29
They're not going to hire the Tulane coach.
25:31
The Tulane coach. It's why they wouldn't.
25:34
And again, as dumb as that is. When he was at Louisiana
25:37
Lafayette, just Louisiana rage occasions.
25:40
Yeah, they weren't going to hire him.
25:41
They're not going. To hire him, they're not going
25:43
to hire John Summerall. It's just a these LSU boosters
25:46
aren't going to give in and be like, we had to go get this guy
25:50
from this lesser program in our state.
25:53
It's just not going to happen. So Joe Brady, he was the second
25:57
name on that list as far as the the betting favourites at least.
26:00
Who makes the hire? Because LSU doesn't have a
26:02
president right now. Apparently it's coming before
26:04
Friday. Maybe you're listening to this
26:06
Saturday morning and LSU has a president because there Are we
26:09
going to let Scott Woodward make the decision?
26:12
Just in case you weren't aware, Scott Woodward was the one who
26:16
lured Jimbo Fisher away from Florida State and hired him at
26:19
Texas A&M, fired him for the largest buyout in college
26:23
football history. He goes to LSU.
26:26
He lures Brian Kelly away from Notre Dame, fires Brian Kelly
26:31
for the second highest buyout in college football history.
26:35
I mean, Daniel, in the past four years, he signed off on paying.
26:39
I think it's like $115 million in buyout money.
26:42
This is fascinating. I'm fascinated to see who they
26:45
hire. And again, this is what makes
26:47
college football fun to Daniel is I think there's some names
26:51
like Matt Campbell, like Jeff Brown that I think will be good
26:53
football coaches. They would not be my top choice,
26:56
but I think good football coaches that could go in there
26:58
and win that I think LSU fans are going to turn their nose up
27:01
at and say that they want the sexy name.
27:03
I mean, look, they want Lane Kiffin and I would too if I'm an
27:06
LSU fan. But yeah, I'm I'm fascinated to
27:10
see who they hire. This is because this is a job,
27:13
Daniel, that you should be competing for SEC championships
27:15
and national championships every single year.
27:18
And again, as the sport's changing, I don't think you need
27:21
a big recruiter like you needed seven years ago, five years ago,
27:26
because you can bring in a really good head football coach.
27:29
He can hire a general manager to manage recruiting because
27:33
recruiting change and be the relationship.
27:36
I think you still have to be a relationship person.
27:38
Those coaches are you can just go get a good ball coach who
27:42
knows how to manage people. Maybe he's a, you know, an
27:45
offensive or defensive wizard and he can just coach ball.
27:48
This hires fascinating in this cycle.
27:50
I saw Stewart Mandel put this out to there's what, 8 Power 4
27:53
jobs open right now and there's 64 Power Four teams.
27:56
So what is that? 1/8 of the jobs are open right
27:59
now. More coming.
28:00
I think we expect Auburn to open, plus a few more.
28:04
Yeah. Not all of these schools are
28:07
going to get an upgraded head coach.
28:09
You know, there's not that many coach like to me, there's not
28:12
this hot board of like there are 10 coaches in the G5 ranks or
28:16
coordinators that everybody wants and everybody's going to
28:19
get this sexy hire. We've already seen some a Curt
28:25
Signetti, who you're thinking is at an Indiana job where most of
28:30
these jobs we you would look with a straight face and I would
28:32
too and say these are upgrades to Indiana.
28:35
And he's like, but why would I, why would I leave?
28:37
Why would I go to a pressure cooker when I can already kind
28:40
of get those results here? So far he's done it.
28:43
You know, he's already made the playoff in year 1.
28:45
He's undefeated with four games left in year 2.
28:48
So I, I'm just fascinated. Daniel who?
28:52
Who's on? You know, if you're the if
28:54
you're the LSUADU, who's your top three?
28:56
Yeah, I mean, I think Nick Saban's got to be #1 I say that
28:59
tongue in cheek, but like, also. He should be.
29:02
I mean, come on. Yeah, he's.
29:04
He should be every. Outside of Saban.
29:06
Yeah, and I'll say you, like you said, he this is literally the
29:10
only place outside of, if he was to return to Bama or something
29:14
like this is the only place where I could see him being
29:16
like, you know what unfinished business.
29:18
I shouldn't have left. LSUI saw some people posting on
29:21
message boards. It's his last.
29:23
It was his only bad decision leaving LSU to go to the NFL.
29:26
He came back to Bama and kind of righted some wrongs.
29:28
But he wants another chance at LSU.
29:30
He obviously could do it. But yeah, no, I mean, if I'm
29:33
LSU, I've got Lane Kiffin up there.
29:37
I I mean, Marcus Freeman definitely should be in that, in
29:43
that list. Yeah.
29:45
You know someone who we're not talking about that I don't know
29:50
if it's necessarily LSU right now, but it's definitely
29:54
probably the SEC soon. Their team's having a little bit
29:58
of a sleeper year because of some injuries at quarterback.
30:03
Fran Brown, Syracuse, I think he'd be a great coach in the
30:07
SEC. He had a couple of good years
30:09
and he could or a Goodyear already and then he started the
30:12
year strong at Syracuse. But their quarterback gets hurt
30:16
and they've not been the same team since.
30:17
But he's someone who I think if that quarterback had not gotten
30:22
hurt, they probably have a couple more wins at this point.
30:24
I think he'd be getting some serious consideration.
30:27
He may not be on LSU's radar because they are going big fish,
30:30
big game hunting. I like the Joe Brady
30:33
conversation. I'll say that.
30:35
You get you've got a guy who, you know, can coach.
30:38
I think they really want, I mean, there's talk that, oh,
30:42
they want a defensive guy since Brian Kelly was an offensive
30:44
guy. I mean, any connection they can
30:47
get to that 2019 team or just any, you know, any offense that
30:54
they can get, I think that that's that's where they're
30:56
going to kind of look at. I'm trying to think if there's
31:01
someone that you haven't already mentioned man.
31:07
I did see Brent key. I personally wouldn't make that
31:09
higher. I just completely different
31:13
situation Georgia Tech good ball coach, but I think that.
31:15
That's more of like you've got to have another step in between
31:18
those two. Agreed.
31:20
In talent to to get to that point and you know, I think that
31:24
he could be in play for it. Well, I don't want to throw
31:28
shade on Auburn right now, but I think Auburn is the type of team
31:31
that I feel like would be like his ceiling right now as far as
31:35
getting that job. George steaks better than Auburn
31:38
right now, of course, but getting as far as resources and
31:42
all that kind of stuff. I could see him going up there
31:45
and then if he did well, you know, you don't see a lot of
31:47
that as far as head coach jumping in within the SEC.
31:50
But you know, dude, Jimbo Fisher's free.
31:53
He could come back and go coach LSU.
31:56
He was offensive coordinator under Sabin.
31:58
There's your connection right there.
32:00
How about that? I got 1.
32:01
You ready for this? I don't think they should do
32:02
this, for what it's worth, but I'd love to talk about it on the
32:06
podcast. Daniel, let's see, you got to
32:09
call it a guy who's been a head coach in the SEC.
32:14
Are you about to say Dan Mullen? No has won national
32:17
championships in the SEC Championships.
32:21
Daniel. OK, OK.
32:23
And one in the Big 10 NFL experience, Heisman winning
32:27
quarterbacks, recruiting monster, highest rated
32:30
recruiting class of all time. Well before Tech say no, Daniel
32:35
Urban Meyer, what are we doing? What are we doing?
32:37
Urban Meyer to LSU, Urban Meyer, LSU Urban Meyer LSU Urban Meyer
32:43
LSU. Let's get that SCO up.
32:46
Oh my goodness. Urban Meyer.
32:48
Nick Saban. He's so.
32:50
Awkward. There's my hot boy.
32:52
That hurts my brain. Yeah.
32:54
OK, there are Lincoln Riley on there.
32:56
How about Bob Stoops? How about Steve Spurrier?
32:58
He's on the list. This is Steve Spurrier that
33:01
that's in Florida should hire. If you're Florida, do you call
33:06
Urban Meyer and just be like, hey man, how's your heart doing?
33:10
Do you call Dan Mullen? Look at Dan Mullen's record.
33:13
Well, because here's the thing, the AD you fired, it's not going
33:16
to hire him. If it's a different AD, you can
33:19
call him. Yeah, Yeah, this will be fast.
33:21
This is tough. You know, as this heats up, we
33:23
might have to change our show structure just to talk kind of
33:26
coaching carousel because I think it's about to get nuts.
33:29
You might just have to make one of our quarters coaching
33:30
carousel every week because it's fun to talk about.
33:33
It's about to get crazy, so we'll see.
33:35
We'll keep you updated here on the extra point though, Daniel.
33:37
We don't have 1/2 time this week.
33:39
We will though. If you're listening to this on
33:41
actually, if you're listening to this period, XPR is out.
33:43
We just didn't have it. We recorded.
33:46
Check it out at the extra point pod on Instagram at Deep South
33:49
Daniel on Twitter at Jacob Karnes of the K on Twitter as
33:53
well. This will be our last XPR before
33:56
No, it's not true. We'll have one more before
33:57
playoff rankings. We'll have XPR out next Tuesday
34:01
for the first playoff rings that night.
34:02
So we will we will be able to compare our numbers to the
34:05
playoff rankings and tell you why ours are better and why the
34:08
CFP got it wrong. Of course, three games.
34:12
We're not picking that. We're going to be watching this
34:15
weekend as well as who was your Team of the week for Week 9?
34:19
Teased it, Teased it earlier, but Team of the Week played in
34:24
Tiger Stadium on Saturday night and it was not LSU.
34:28
It in fact was the Texas A&M Aggies.
34:31
Great, great win on the road down at half time and just all
34:37
facets of the game. Like I said, offense, defense
34:41
and special teams just completely overtaking the
34:44
Tigers. It's what a good team looks like
34:47
versus a dysfunctional team. And it was all the evidence in
34:50
the world needed to make a move from Brian Kelly for LSU.
34:54
But on that flip of that, man, you've got a really shiny
34:58
looking team in Texas A&M. We've already talked them a good
35:02
bit excited to talk more of them as the season continues.
35:05
But As for three games I'm watching.
35:08
I already mentioned Kennesaw State UTEP.
35:10
That goes without saying because you don't want to go to war with
35:13
the Owls, all right? No one comes into K town and
35:16
gets dubbed, but Kennesaw is playing for a chance to go to a
35:22
bowl game. So early enough in the season.
35:23
Still October. And they could make a win and go
35:26
to a bowl game. Still got a good shot for the
35:28
Conference USA championship as well.
35:30
How about Ohio State? Penn State.
35:31
Yeah, I'll still be watching even though we're not picking
35:33
them. Yeah, they're on this list.
35:35
And then little sleeper Jacob. But Navy, North Texas, couple of
35:42
teams that are 7 and O and well, actually one of them might be 7
35:47
and one. I think North Texas 7 and one.
35:49
That being said, they're both on my yeah.
35:52
North Texas 7 and 1, three and one in the American.
35:55
Navy 7 and O also in the American.
35:58
I mean, both of these teams, I mean, they at least are outside
36:02
shot. North Texas, very good offense.
36:04
They're very fun to watch. So that's a game to kind of keep
36:07
an eye on, man, get to know some of these teams.
36:10
That game's on ESPN 2 at noon, so if they can kick off the
36:13
snoozer, maybe if you like me and you have quad screen, have
36:18
it on one of the screens. Just see what's going on, man.
36:20
Get to know this team a little bit that games in Denton, TX at
36:24
North Texas. So we'll see they're favored by
36:26
a touchdown against Navy. We'll see man.
36:29
They they could be one of those teams if they end up in the
36:32
American Championship, they have to have some help.
36:35
But if they do, that could be a you could be looking at a
36:39
potential playoff team in that game.
36:41
So just get to know them just in case how they also could play in
36:45
like the Music City Bowl or whatever it is that they play in
36:48
the brute Sun Bowl. But yeah, those are my 3
36:51
Kennesaw State, Ohio State, Kennesaw State, Utah, Ohio
36:54
State, Penn State and Navy North Texas.
36:58
I love it, Daniel. The uniform matchup of the week
37:02
haven't had as many bangers recently.
37:04
This one was Mississippi State versus Texas.
37:06
I like Mississippi State bringing back the interlocked
37:08
MSU helmet. I also love their grey pants.
37:12
I think that's their best look with those grey pants.
37:14
So they had the maroon, maroon Gray.
37:17
I think I'd like a Gray face mask on that helmet.
37:20
Would like to see it at least. But Texas and the all whites,
37:25
the best all white look in the sport.
37:28
Yeah. Elite uniform at ship this week,
37:30
though. Ohio State, Penn State again,
37:33
that's a helmet game. Elite on Elite.
37:36
No notes. Texas and Oklahoma, some orange
37:40
and some dark red. That'll look really good in the
37:42
field. Oklahoma's got that.
37:44
Their helmets going to get that Pearl look to it where it's a
37:46
little shiny under the lights Saturday night.
37:49
That'll look really good. George and Florida, not my
37:51
favorite Georgia and Florida uniform match up.
37:54
I think I, I let I wish they'd rotated.
37:57
They know they did this for a couple years where you know,
38:00
they rotate who wears their home jersey.
38:02
We see we had a year in the past decade where both teams wore
38:06
home uniforms and again, it's blue and red.
38:09
So I thought it looked good. But Florida is wearing all blue
38:12
apparently this weekend. Now my favorite look in this
38:15
game, but will still look good. You get the blue versus red.
38:19
It looks good, especially with the neutral crowd like the whole
38:21
the whole vibe is is really nice.
38:23
So the cocktail party's got a great uniform match up this
38:26
weekend, Daniel fourth quarter four games against the spread.
38:31
We start with Texas and Vanderbilt.
38:35
Texas at home, 2 1/2 point favorite Vanderbilt, legit good
38:41
team. They're the higher ranked team.
38:44
Less losses. Daniel, this line is telling me
38:46
that on a neutral Vanderbilt favored over Texas.
38:51
Crazy world here in 2025. Who do you like in this game in
38:55
Austin? Yeah, I mean, I think that
38:56
that's that's fair. At this point, I was kind of
38:59
looking for Vandy to maybe be even favored on the road
39:02
potentially in this game. But you know, the more of dug in
39:06
Texas keeps letting these teams in getting these leads and you
39:11
know, against Mississippi State has to come back, does so in
39:15
very impressive fashion. But you know, they get CJ Baxter
39:20
back this past past week. And then, you know, Wizards, I
39:24
got duo. They're running back.
39:26
They really have yet to really get the running game going this
39:30
year. Like I think they've wanted to.
39:31
And honestly, this is the type of year that they need a running
39:35
game to help support Arch as he's been kind of growing and
39:39
progressing through this past game.
39:41
That being said, man, you know, Vanderbilt has had a very strong
39:45
season to this point. I'm not, you know, we talked
39:48
about the beginning. I feel like Vanderbilt, they
39:51
people need to understand the historical context.
39:54
They are doing something amazing.
39:57
They could get into the CFP. They're definitely going to be
40:00
in the CFP rankings for the first time this next week.
40:02
This is on the road at Texas. I think that Texas is desperate
40:06
because they've got 2 losses already and I think you've got a
40:10
defense in Texas that is going to be able to key in on Diego
40:15
Pavia since he has been offensively.
40:18
I'm not saying a one man show, but he is the leading rusher.
40:22
I feel like if they can contain the run a little bit from Diego
40:25
Pavia and then, you know, they could force them to kind of play
40:29
with their left hand a little bit.
40:30
Vanderbilt's still very good. I think that that Vanderbilt
40:34
could still win with their left hand.
40:36
I just think that winning with your left hand is easier against
40:39
Missouri than it is Texas. So I'm rolling with the
40:44
Longhorns, man. I'm going Texas.
40:46
It's only 2 1/2 points. I think Texas wins by 4 and I
40:50
think Vanderbilt's going to be in this game for the whole for
40:52
the whole game. So I have the 2420 Texas.
40:56
Hater, doubter, dude. Friend of the show Barton
41:00
Simmons will be disappointed. Sorry Nate Bargatze to my.
41:05
Boy, Daniel, I am. I'm going to Nashville this
41:08
week, going to going to drive past the beautiful new
41:11
Vanderbilt Stadium. May not Is Vanderbilt the better
41:15
team? I just, I, I think so I'm laying
41:19
the point of Texas. You're right in that this is,
41:22
we've seen it several times this year for the team that needs it
41:26
more, has figured out a way to win.
41:28
Texas has already done it again that they go on the road last
41:32
week, they get in the hole. You didn't see a team quit,
41:34
Daniel. They were down what, 17 in the
41:37
fourth quarter and come back and win that game.
41:40
You didn't see him quit, which I was impressed with.
41:43
You win that game. That creates A momentum.
41:44
The offense have been poor and Vanderbilt defense have been
41:47
good against the run. That's that.
41:49
If Vanderbilt wins the game there, there's the game to me is
41:51
Texas couldn't run the ball. Vanderbilt absolutely can run
41:54
the ball and they can stop the run.
41:56
They went a low scoring game in the 20s and they win the game.
42:00
I think Texas needs this more Daniel and two, this will be a
42:03
thing. You know what, I'm going to save
42:04
that for the next pick. There's a theme here with teams
42:08
like Texas. I'm picking Texas.
42:10
I'm laying the point. It's 2 1/2 almost to pick him.
42:14
I think Texas figures out a way here in November.
42:17
This Saturday, then we go to the world's largest outdoor cocktail
42:22
party known by no other name on the Extra Point podcast.
42:28
This great rivalry in Jacksonville in the, you know,
42:32
the last year in this version of this stadium in Jacksonville,
42:37
they will be renovating and rebuilding that stadium.
42:41
Is it a complete scrape and rebuild?
42:42
I don't know. You know, they're going to play
42:45
in Atlanta and Tampa the next two years.
42:47
So final year in this version of the stadium in Jacksonville, FL
42:51
fires an AP year. But now they've had a bye week
42:55
to kind of get their ducks in a row to finish the season.
42:58
A lot of times, Daniel, this sparks A-Team.
42:59
They don't quit. You know, you why do you fire
43:02
the coach mid season? To give some spark in the team.
43:05
Maybe there's a position coach or an assistant coach that
43:07
players love that they still play for.
43:10
You do this to make the team not quit in the middle of the year.
43:13
That's that's one of the reasons you fire a coach in season.
43:16
Georgia also off of a by they are a 7 1/2 point favorite in
43:19
Jacksonville. Daniel, who do you like in the
43:21
cocktail party? Yeah, look at this line.
43:23
It opened. At 7 1/2, it is at 7 1/2.
43:27
I mean, we are in Monday. So yeah, yeah, yeah.
43:30
Respect it. Might move move a little bit
43:33
man. The more I think about it,
43:35
Georgia, Florida, the cocktail party, what's what's been wrong
43:39
for Georgia so far this year? They give up a lot of yards in
43:43
the air. They can't get teams off the
43:45
field on 3rd down. So a lot of conversions.
43:48
So defensively has been their issue.
43:50
What do they do? Great offensively.
43:54
They possess the ball. They control the clock.
43:57
They don't turn the ball over. You know they're.
44:00
Efficient, they do their. Little March down the field,
44:03
they're also good at stopping the run on defense.
44:05
They're not good at rushing the passer.
44:08
OK, what what is Florida good at Well, I don't mean that tongue
44:13
in cheek they're good at running the ball Jaden Ball is a good
44:16
running back. I think when used, he's
44:19
Florida's best player. And so I think that Florida's
44:23
path to victory is a big day from Jaden Ball.
44:25
I think that Georgia is going to be able to stop the run in the
44:28
sense that he's not going to run wild because they're going to be
44:31
keying on him. They're going to force DJ Lagway
44:33
to beat them. Now, you and I watch this
44:35
rivalry all the time, and especially in a year like this
44:38
where Florida has fired their coach, they've had two weeks to
44:40
prepare. I think Florida is going to come
44:43
out and give Georgia one of their best shots ever.
44:46
This is maybe Florida's most inspired game so far this year,
44:49
but a couple of problems for Georgia has been getting off the
44:52
field well. Florida turns the ball over at a
44:55
great rate. 9 interceptions so far on the year for DJ Lagway.
44:59
I think that if he starts turning the ball over even once
45:02
or twice, that really turns this game in Georgia's favor because
45:05
possessions matter and Georgia can hold the ball and they can
45:09
cash in getting first downs and taking the ball down the field.
45:14
I also just think that Florida at their best can.
45:19
Georgia has been able to win several different ways this
45:22
year. So I think Georgia's going to
45:24
win this game. Now the question is 7 1/2
45:27
points, where are we at there? I think that if Georgia takes a
45:30
possession away like I anticipate, I think you're
45:34
looking at Georgia with a 10 point win.
45:37
So Georgia, which could be more, but Georgia's offense is not
45:40
super explosive right now. It's very much a possess the
45:43
ball, take the ball, air out of ball, you know, get first downs,
45:46
milk the clock, really use these new clock rules to to their
45:51
advantage of keeping it away from the other team.
45:54
So you know, one or two turnovers, even a turnover on
45:58
downs could be the end for Florida in a game that Georgia
46:02
could really hurt them. Where this isn't the Carson Beck
46:05
offensive last year where he might throw 3 interceptions and
46:08
give Florida plenty of opportunities.
46:10
This is a different offense, so give me Georgia.
46:12
I'm going to lay the points. Lay the points.
46:14
All right? Yeah, Daniel, I think.
46:15
To beat Georgia, you got to do a few things.
46:18
Well, like you mentioned, one of the things that a lot of teams
46:22
have looked good on Georgia on 3rd and 4th down.
46:24
Daniel, Florida is 129th in the country and 3rd and 4th down
46:27
success rate on offense. So they're A-Team.
46:30
I don't think will be able to take advantage of that.
46:32
And like you mentioned, this is something in this rivalry to
46:35
Daniel, the team that runs the ball almost always wins.
46:37
And Kirby Smart's 10 year, The only time that wasn't the case
46:40
was in 2020. Georgia did not rush Florida and
46:42
Florida won the game. But Daniel George's defense is
46:45
7th in EPA against the rush in the country.
46:49
Florida 50th in that category. So I think Georgia's going to be
46:53
able to stop the run. And again, on defense, like this
46:56
is a top 20 team in Georgia for rushing defense, not so much for
47:00
Florida. Here's the other thing, Daniel,
47:02
is this, this game teams like Georgia and I'll include Texas
47:07
in this. You got to think now in modern
47:10
college football with an expanded playoff, the season is
47:13
kind of in four quarters for teams that are going to make it
47:16
right. Like you've got the first
47:18
quarter, which is like first half the regular season or
47:21
first, third, second quarter, second, third, third quarter.
47:26
Can I get the last third of the season?
47:27
Fourth quarter, you've got the playoff, right?
47:31
These best teams, these top level talent teams, they scale
47:36
and they play their best ball in November and they start to get
47:40
better and better. I think this is a game where
47:42
we've looked at Georgia. They try to figure themselves
47:45
out that we've got a good grasp kind of what Georgia is at this
47:48
point now they've got a bye week.
47:51
I think you're going to get a good picture of Georgia and
47:53
Texas and some of these other teams of like who are you?
47:56
What do you look like as we head towards deciding who wins the
48:00
championship this college football season?
48:02
I think the best teams start playing their best ball in
48:05
November. If I'm correct, November 1st is
48:08
this Saturday, the date of this game.
48:10
Give me the dogs to win and cover.
48:11
I think Georgia wins going away. I think this is a 10 point game.
48:15
I think maybe it's, you know, Georgia gets in the 30s, Florida
48:18
gets in the 20s somewhere in there like a 3120 type game here
48:22
in Jacksonville. And I think you're going to get
48:24
a really good effort from Florida.
48:26
Don't think the players are motivated to go out here and try
48:29
to ruin some other people's season.
48:30
So I think you're going to get a really good effort.
48:32
I just think this is where you start to see Georgia scale and
48:35
play their best ball in November and I think the first glimpse we
48:38
see at that is this Saturday in Jacksonville.
48:40
So give me Georgia to win. Give me Georgia to cover.
48:42
I think they run the ball really well.
48:44
I think they stopped the run and Florida's not been great in 3rd
48:47
and 4th down. Don't see that changing in this
48:49
game, but who knows? George has made everybody look
48:51
good on 3rd and 4th down, so maybe that does in fact flip in
48:54
this game. We head to Knoxville.
48:57
Josh Hypo gets to host the team he played quarterback for in the
49:02
Olin Stadium, Tennessee, a 3 1/2 point favorite over Oklahoma.
49:05
Daniel, who do you like in Knoxville?
49:07
Yeah, I like this. I like this match up man this.
49:09
One's interesting because I think you've got deficiency
49:13
versus deficiency and strength versus strength.
49:16
I think Oklahoma has the better defense, of course, in this
49:19
game. And I think Tennessee far and
49:22
away has better offense. Tennessee is remarkable on
49:25
offense and they are a problem and they Josh Hypo, I mean, he's
49:30
running the offense that he wants to run.
49:32
He's got the guy at enjoy Aguilar who can do that for him.
49:36
You know, 6 picks on the year, but he's a three to 1 touchdown
49:38
interception ratio guy. So you know that you'll take
49:42
that as a coach when you want to run this type of offense.
49:45
You know, defensively, man, Tennessee, the least amount of
49:51
points they've given up was week two against who was it?
49:55
What was it? A East Tennessee state?
49:58
I wanted to get it right. I want to give respect to East
50:00
Tennessee State. 17 points was the lowest point total that
50:04
Tennessee has given up so far this year.
50:06
You know, 26 to Syracuse, 44 to Georgia, 24 to UAB, 34 to
50:13
Mississippi State, 31 to Arkansas, 37 Alabama, 34 to
50:19
Kentucky last week. That one was tough.
50:21
I think that Oklahoma will start to get a couple things right
50:25
offensively because it is Tennessee's defense and
50:28
Oklahoma's defense can get the quarterback on the ground.
50:32
They've got, you know, DD Lyman, 5 1/2 sacks this year.
50:37
Our Mason Thomas, I mean, that's he's got a, they've got some
50:42
skill on that side of the ball. I just think Tennessee's offense
50:46
is the best part of this whole game.
50:49
You talk about what's the best unit on the field.
50:52
Tennessee's offense, they're at home.
50:56
I think they're going to score enough to win this game by a
51:00
touchdown. So I think that you're going to
51:02
see Oklahoma score. And so people need to get ready
51:06
for that because you know, Oklahoma has had a a little
51:09
streak. They haven't scored above 26
51:11
points in an SEC game so far. I think today they go over that.
51:15
This game, they're going to go, they're probably going to score
51:17
35. Tennessee's going to score 42,
51:20
though, and they're going to do it against a very good defense.
51:23
But yeah, I, I just, this one's going to be fun for if you're a
51:26
casual fan, if you don't have a dog in the fight, man, turn this
51:29
one on at 7:30 and just enjoy some ball, man.
51:32
This one's going to be a, a, a scoring fest.
51:35
You're not going to know who's going to win till probably the
51:38
late fourth quarter. I expect both.
51:41
Quarterbacks to make. Big a big time plays and just
51:44
kind of, you know, put their team on their back and kind of
51:47
have that feeling for different reasons.
51:49
So but give me the volunteers lay the was it 3 1/2 lay 3 1/2.
51:53
I'm going to lay the 3 1/2 with the Daniel I.
51:56
I don't think they eclipsed 26 though.
51:58
That was one of the stats I had. I think they get under 26 in
52:00
this game. I Oklahoma's defense, especially
52:04
their past defense stats have been inflated.
52:07
These DBS have been gettable all year.
52:10
They finally face in offense last week, they could take
52:13
advantage of it and they really took advantage of it.
52:17
Even in the rain, they take advantage advantage of it.
52:20
Tennessee is an offense that can absolutely take advantage of the
52:23
DBS on Oklahoma. That's been a weakness all year.
52:27
Again, that has hadn't faced a quarterback until last week.
52:29
They could really burn him on it.
52:31
Joey Aguilar can burn him on it this week.
52:32
I think Tennessee scores at will, not that will in this
52:36
game, but I think they get to 30.
52:37
I think that's my like, they get to 30 and I don't think Oklahoma
52:41
eclipses 26 and that's four points, Daniel.
52:43
I need 3 1/2 to cover lay the points.
52:45
John Mateer, also, look, you had your hand cut open for surgery.
52:50
The Velo has not looked the same on the ball since then.
52:55
They still haven't been able to been able to run the ball on
52:57
which again, the teams that have really scored on Tennessee have
53:00
been offenses that can run and throw.
53:03
So I think Tennessee wins and covers give me the Volunteers in
53:08
Knoxville on Saturday night and what could be, could be.
53:11
I think with Oklahoma's, with Oklahoma scheduled nine and
53:14
three, you should be in the playoff discussion.
53:16
But as we've talked about, I think we're starting to have
53:19
more zero and one loss teams that we initially thought in the
53:22
SECI. Like how you said last week,
53:24
this is a College Football Playoff qualifier.
53:26
The winner stays in contention. The loser is like, I mean, I
53:31
think if Tennessee loses, they're done.
53:34
Oklahoma might still have a shot because their schedule, because
53:36
they, you know, they could still beat Alabama and be fine.
53:39
But I like what you said last week.
53:41
This is a kind of a College Football Playoff qualifier game.
53:43
We go to Salt Lake City, UT hosting Cincinnati, both of
53:49
these teams still contenders in the Big 12 title race.
53:52
Cincinnati to me has been one of my surprises of the season as
53:55
far as I did not see this coming, how well they performed.
53:59
Utah, though, 7 1/2 point favorite at home.
54:02
Who do you like in this game in Salt Lake?
54:04
Daniel. Yeah.
54:04
I mean, did Brendan Sores be having?
54:06
A phenomenal year quarterback for Cincinnati, 20 touchdowns on
54:10
the year, 1800 yards. I mean, he's having a great
54:14
year. I think that, you know, we
54:16
definitely need to, you know, not overlook Cincinnati like
54:21
maybe we did earlier in the year.
54:22
I definitely did. They've beat some teams.
54:26
I mean, what they did to Baylor was impressive.
54:29
You're starting to kind of, I think that maybe if Cincinnati
54:32
play, if they played each other's schedule, that's what I
54:34
was trying to actually do. If you swap their schedules, I
54:38
think that they have each other's record.
54:39
I think this is an even game. I like this one.
54:42
Utah being at home, I think their defense is better and I
54:47
think that they are going to rely on the defense.
54:51
Obviously, you saw what they did this past week to to Colorado.
54:54
Colorado simply just overmatched in that game, but it was nice to
54:58
see Utah kind of get back some of their mojo.
55:01
They had it against Arizona State, West Virginia after
55:05
losing Texas Tech and then that heartbreaker to BYU. close,
55:09
close match up at BYUI. Think we're having to start
55:12
respecting BYUA little bit more. Definitely I will, I'm going to
55:15
put them higher in my rankings, but I like Utah in this game and
55:18
they're at home with the defense at night.
55:21
It's a late game. I just think that Brennan Sorsby
55:25
going on the road. So it's 7 1/2 point spread.
55:28
That's a lot of points. I'm going to take the points
55:32
with Cincinnati, but I like Utah in this game to win.
55:36
So give me Utah overall to win. But with the points I'm taking
55:41
Cincinnati, I'm going to middle it.
55:42
I only did it one time this week, y'all, 7 1/2 points with
55:46
Cincinnati, but give me Utah with the dub.
55:48
We're going to go 4 for four again.
55:49
Daniel Another. Wendy's week 4 for four is exact
55:53
same. I'm middling this.
55:55
I like Cincinnati plus 7 1/2 Utah to win because I think
55:59
because of how well Cincinnati runs the ball, they can keep the
56:02
number of possessions down in this game, which again, when you
56:04
go on the road, it's exactly what you want to do.
56:06
You want to run the ball well, play, keep away.
56:09
I just think Utah's offense is too dynamic to not win the game.
56:14
But I do think Cincinnati's best chance to win is to do what they
56:17
do well. Run the ball, hold on to the
56:20
ball, let the clock go down, run it with Soresby.
56:23
You know, maybe he has 185 yards rushing.
56:26
And this is a 2724 game where Utah squeaks out a win at home.
56:31
I'm getting 7 1/2. I think Cincinnati absolutely
56:34
can win this game. I don't think Utah wins.
56:36
I'm going to middle it, but I think they're capable of
56:39
winning. I don't think this is too many
56:40
points. Maybe Vegas knows something I
56:42
don't. But if this were 3 1/2, I'd
56:44
probably pick Utah. But at 7 1/2, I mean, give me
56:48
the points there. Cincinnati's playing
56:50
unbelievable right now. Their defense is really good
56:52
against the run. How healthy is Dampier still?
56:55
I think I'm still wondering that, too.
56:57
So yeah, this seems I almost said three points.
57:01
It's never three points. Vegas.
57:02
No stuff. I don't so.
57:03
But yeah, give me the 7 1/2. I'm meddling it with you.
57:06
We're 4 for four this week. We need better than you.
57:09
You. You are 45.
57:10
Percent and get to spread this season.
57:12
I'm 43 Daniel, we've this is our 7th football season doing this.
57:16
This is by far my worst performance in picks.
57:19
I need to go for another rest of the way just to make myself look
57:21
good. Daniel we've had season.
57:22
We're always above 60%. Yeah, we've had seasons of 60.
57:27
We have had 60. We got to get it right, man,
57:31
this is crazy. We got we got to get right.
57:32
We need, we need a four in a week.
57:35
We shouldn't have picked LSU last week.
57:36
We should have had a three in one week last week.
57:38
I just pulled you down. With me, it's OK, It's OK.
57:42
I wanted to believe. Did not know how bad Kelly was
57:45
behind the scenes. I thought Josh Pate had a really
57:48
good little segment on that. So it's OK.
57:51
We live and we learn, we move on.
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