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• speaker-0: Yeah. This week on Full Credit to the Noise, Triple Eight finds some stones they left unturned, the Save Albert Park gang are heading to Adelaide, and Scott Pye tries the Latvian spin. Welcome to Full Credit to the Noise. Well hello, good morning, good afternoon, good evening, and welcome to full credits of the noise. You can find this podcast on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook at FCTTN Podcasts. You can find me on Instagram, Twitter, Blue Sky, and Facebook at Former underscore legend. You can find the boy who crossed me on Twitter at AVL underscore motorsport. He's on Instagram at AVL dot motorsport. He's a man who this week declared his NDIS business, Andy Care, was bankrupt while he was holidaying in Monaco. He won the logie for best new talent in a reality singing show last night and tonight He's wearing the new summer range from Lululemon. Welcome to Speed Cafe's Andrew Van Lewen. speaker-1: Thank you, Former. I can assure you I'm not in Monaco, but I do have over my shoulder here a wonderful view of the ⁓ of the brown snake in Brisbane from my apartment here. And ⁓ I think that's pretty much the same as Monaco, right? It's the same? Yes, sure. speaker-0: Yeah, well you're the first one to draw that conclusion, but why not? Yeah, you should go down and see if there's a job down at ⁓ Brisbane Tourism for you. Yeah. Mate, you are up in Queensland and you're up there for the ⁓ Fark in the Dark or whatever it is, ⁓ up there at Queensland Raceway. All I know is that Nash Morris got a double in the T A twos on Saturday. Yep. ⁓ Tony Quinn won at his own track in his Subra on Sunday n ⁓ Saturday night and then on Sunday Tommy Smith got a When in race three, the T A twos. There were other eventuations that we'll touch on later on. How long did you hang around for? speaker-1: Yes. Interesting weekend. I didn't stay for the fight in the night, let's put it that way. I decided to ⁓ to head back to my accommodation before that race kicked off, but it was ⁓ that was good to be out of QR. It's always a bit of fun. speaker-0: Mm-hmm and you're going back out there this week, obviously. speaker-1: There'll be plenty of time spent there this week because we're there we're there until next Tuesday because of the Enduro test on the ⁓ on that Tuesday. So ⁓ I'll be seeing plenty of Ipswich between now and the middle of next week. speaker-0: I don't know whether you got across the Liburn sprints on the weekend AVL, but Dean Amos, ⁓ I think he's won it before in his ⁓ Gould, his two thousand six Gould, he did there was look, throughout the day there were fifty second runs, you know, they were pretty low. He came out and did a forty second run. And you know when you see a car that's just visibly quicker than anything you've seen all day? Well that was him. Absolute weapon of a thing. ⁓ forty seconds seems and he did it twice in a row. He did two forty second runs, so If you don't have if you haven't seen it, I'm sure it's on YouTube. Go and have a look. That thing is absolutely bullet fast. speaker-1: I think he's won it. I think that was the tenth or eleventh or twelfth time he's won that event. So ⁓ he goes pretty good there. I wish my red super cheap backed open wheeler went as fast as his did 'cause that thing is an absolute weapon. speaker-0: ⁓ geez i like I said, you can see visibly the way it accelerates from corner to corner is just l n like nothing else all day. So, ⁓ yeah, go and have a look at that thing. Let's go to the shift cut because there's some news happening as we speak and then there's some stuff that we probably have to go back over. Reheat some old soup, as they say. And we start as we go to air right now, AVL, ⁓ The appeal by Supercars against Kyle Allen and the tire pressure saga at Wanneroo is being heard as we record. You're saying that you don't think there'll be anything come out of that, even maybe tonight? speaker-1: I'm not sure what we'll learn tonight. It's ⁓ as we record, it started about half an hour ago. I imagine it'll be a fairly lengthy thing. I mean, it it is actually you say it's an appeal against Kai Allen, and it and it is, like that's not wrong, because he's obviously the potential loser out of this situation if the outcome from the Sunday night in Perth is overturned. But it this is all about supercars against Motorsport Australia. The appeal i is to try and uphold what they think is the integrity of their own rules. And their ability to enforce their own rules. So that's really what it's all about. So it's it it is a landmark case. It'll be very interesting to see how it plays out. I yeah, I I I really it's one of those things that because we've never seen this happen, like generally it's teams that appeal a Motorsport Australia outcome. But in this case, it's supercars appealing the outcome. So trying to get a read on how it's going to play out is just so incredibly difficult. What I will say is that. Outside of Grove Racing. And this is not anything against Grove Racing. They obviously they argued their case and they got the outcome that they wanted. So no problem with that. Every single team in Pit Lane would 100% do that. ⁓ but all of the other teams that like there's just complete alignment through the paddock that this wasn't the right outcome, that this breach had to have some sort of punishment attached to it, particularly because the breach was established. It's not like they're saying it didn't happen. They're saying, yeah, it happened, but we're not going to punish it. So it's a really important case. And yeah, as I said, trying to get a read on what what's going to happen from here is is really, really difficult. I think from the perspective of ⁓ f for the sport as a whole, I I I I feel like something has to happen. Like walking away from this and nothing happening is is just going to, as so many people have said, open a can of worms. in terms of tolerances, in terms of being able to argue what is in this case a sporting rule, not a technical rule. It just opens Pandora's box about what you can kind of try and argue and what you can potentially get away with because the old zero tolerance rule has been so effective for so long. So yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see how the whole thing plays out. Until we know more, there's there's not much more we can say. It's all stuff we've talked about already. But yeah, it's going to be an interesting couple of days as the whole thing shakes out. speaker-0: Things we can add to, but is this next story. So I know you boys covered this story on the news pod, which is probably one of the biggest stories this year in the sport, to be honest. But I've got some questions. So let me recap for those that aren't up to speed. So Will Brown has complained to his team on a few occasions about straight line speed of his Mustang this year, and Triple Eight, up until this point, couldn't find any issue and decided to give him the spare car coming up to Queensland Raceway next week, or this weekend I should say. ⁓ Triple Eight then discovered on Tuesday night. That Will Brown's car had been running an air restrictor one millimeter smaller than specified throughout the season to date that was put on the car during the Geelong launch of the car earlier this year, lent to them by Supercars. Triple H issued a strongly worded statement on Wednesday declaring it would be taking it up with supercars why they have supplied us with a control component out of specification. Supercars then responded by declaring the 49mm restrictor was loaned to them for the preseason demonstration and was never intended to be raced. Late last week, Will Brown broke his silence on the Saga via his Lucky Dogs podcast, declaring he was in shock and not sure how to feel after hearing the news. So that's pretty much where we sit right now. So here are some questions, AVL, from the cheap seat, some of them from Punters, some of them from me, that I guess I'm just gonna bring to the table. Let me start with a holistic viewpoint. From a media or PR's pers perspective. What would you give Triple Eight out of ten in how they've handled the situation to this point in time? speaker-1: Well, I guess it depends on what side of the media or PR fence that you kind of sit on this one, because as a journalist or someone who, you know, runs a website, like ten out of ten was amazing. Like Triple A going that hard and going early really added some spice to the entire news cycle. So as a journalist, I'm wary of being too critical because and that just comes from a place of pure self interest. But if you were a communications specialist You would probably have preferred that the team took a deep breath, taken a bit more time, done a bit more digging as to how this had all played out before they went out with a statement which was a pretty clear attempt to throw supercars under the bus. So there's two ways to look at it. It was really fun the way it played out, but again, if you were a PR firm that was engaged to do, you know, maybe crisis comms is too strong a statement. You know, given the fact that we're talking about a millimeter on a restrictor. But, you know, if yeah, if you if you were advising that team on how to tackle its comms, you would probably say, Yeah, let's just wait. Let's just get to the bottom of this before we go big, with a statement that while there was this one line about we accept responsibility, the rest of it was very clearly aimed at trying to find a scapegoat and that scapegoat being supercars. speaker-0: Because yeah, that's I was gonna say. They came out of the gates like y you'd like to see them jump off the line at Queensland Race week we this weekend. They flew out of the gates and then I mean a few people got dragged along with them as if to say, Yeah, supercars, what have you done? So if you're giving that out of ten, it's not not as far as much as as making your job a lot more interesting, but just as a PR kind of thing, what are you giving Triple Eight so far? speaker-1: It's probably a one out of ten on that on that side of things. From the from the yeah, from an actual comms management point of view, probably a one out of ten. speaker-0: And on the flip side, when supercars came back equally as bullish, what do you give them out of ten? speaker-1: It was a pretty strong response. There's no doubt about that. It was good that they were kind of up front about because by the time that statement came out, there was kind of some rumors circulating about what the issue was. So I do admire that they were upfront about what had happened. It's still not it's not it's not a good look for anyone concerned in this, right? Like it's it's pretty embarrassing for for both sides, but that was a pretty strong response and it was an honest response. speaker-0: Why why do you think it's bad for supercars? W what do you think they've done wrong? Why by not a ha asking for the part back? Is that that what it or is it because they haven't done scrutineering checks that have found this issue to this point in time? Is that speaker-1: A car's been running with a part that's not part of the ESD or the VSD for half a season. So some onus has to fall back to the series, but only a very small part. And this is the point that that we made on the news pod that, you know, from where I sit, this is a triple eight problem. Like that that they have to shoulder the absolute majority of the blame for this because they are responsible for what's on the race car when it rolls out on the racetrack. Yep. speaker-0: Yes. speaker-1: Ultimately that's that's where the responsibility sits. So it's a bad look for everyone just because it's a bad look, like it just is. But certainly, ⁓ if you had to portion up the blame, it it's to me, it's pretty clear that that it's Triple A's fault that this happened. They are the ones that have to ensure that the car is legal and has all the right parts on it. In this case, it was illegal in a way that made it slower, but that's it's still their responsibility. It's that clear. speaker-0: Still with the media. How do you think it's been received and reported by a couple of ⁓ accounts in particular, Motorsport three sixty on Fox's roving reporter, James Phelps? He declared, and I I quote, I'd be asking for my points back because they've given me a part that was faulty, which is an interesting take at best. One wonders how many points supercar should be giving back. speaker-1: I mean, obviously that's the exact question. Like, how do you possibly calculate that? Even if it was entirely their fault, how do you calculate that? I think it was it was pretty clear that Phelps he copped a briefing from Triple Eight before the show. And I do feel like the story had moved on from that opinion even by that point. And I think Jess Yates made an amazing point on that show, which was, you know, shouldn't the motto be to assume nothing? Because that was Roland Dane's mantra during his time leading that team. And it's literally written on the wall in banya in the factory. So that is, you know, this was a case of assuming something they've been given. And there's a few other bits to that because it's not it's actually something SuperCas regularly does is use restrictors that aren't of the race specification for demonstration events. So it's actually beyond just the assumption that they've been given a part that was right. It was a part that was given for a specific reason. and stayed on the car. So yeah, it's a it's just a very interesting thing. speaker-0: Thirdly, what does this do to the relationship between Will Brown and Triple Eight moving forward? Remembering that there have been whispers, and that's all there have been, that it's been strained at times this year from both sides. speaker-1: It has been strained. I think that's fair to say. ⁓ look, I don't know, this could be a galvanizing moment and it could be something that gives Will the confidence to get back to his twenty twenty four form. But some of these form issues that we're seeing, they go back to last season, long before there was a an issue with any restrictors or anything like that. So I do feel like this really ramps up the pressure on Will for this weekend. And Will is the completely innocent party in all of this. You know, that is one thing that's that that's important to make clear. He might thrive under that pressure and he might not. You know, we don't really know. The good news for you and for me and for everyone listening to this podcast is that qualifying on Saturday morning in Ipswich is going to be blockbuster to watch. Because whether he's on pole or whether he's fifteenth, like that's the story. It's gonna be a story. And we always talk about needing more storylines in our sport. And this one is an absolute beauty. speaker-0: Finally, and I haven't this is not on your rundown, it's just something that's come to me. Are supercars really good lenders of stuff? Because I've lent my mate a book and I've never received it back. Is this the same sort of thing where they should have been asking for it back a lot longer ago? speaker-1: I don't I don't fully understand how the process works with these demo restrictors. So I'm not a hundred percent sure on whether there's been a process failure from that side of things as well, to be perfectly honest. But again, ultimately, it just comes back to the fact that they put the restrictor in the car and then didn't take it out. The team I mean. That's that's what happened. So it has to be on the team. I just don't see how it's not on the team to to to have taken that restrictor. It was given to them. I I struggle to understand that that the fact that it was not a race specification restrictor wouldn't have been communicated to them. And maybe it wasn't, I don't know for sure, but I just struggle to to think that's the case. So that's where to me it just falls back on the team. speaker-0: ⁓ fan footage just to be a bad week for Triple Eight, because fan footage has emerged from an event in Latvia where the Triple Eight Red Bull Mustang plowed into a water filled plastic barrier and drove away without significant damage, it should be said. Scott Pye has been confirmed at the wheel. Pye is one of a handful of drivers tasked with driving the V8 for a series of demonstrations across Europe. ⁓ taking to his Apex Hunters United account, Pye made light of the moment that happened in front of thousands of spectators. He said, What a effing wobbler! And then to do to think that you can make up with it with a few donuts. Ford Mustang is in the midst of an overseas tour, joining several Red Bull affiliated events. ⁓ it appeared at the World Rally Championships, ⁓ it appeared at Goodwood, ⁓ it appeared at Latvia, and it's also gonna be the Red Bull Driftmasters. AVL never has a small video from some dude in Latvia been smashed like it got smashed last night in Australia. when ⁓ they've f people seen it for the first time on ⁓ Instagram and also on TikTok. speaker-1: Yeah, Scott knows how to go viral. There's no doubt about that. He'd ⁓ he did have a bit of a crack at us, and by us I mean Speed Cafe for initially reporting that it wasn't clear who was in the car. ⁓ but again to use the triple eight motto, assume nothing. Yeah and as you like, you know, we we saw Arvid Limblad in that car. in Goodwood. So, you know, they they have cycled other drivers through the car just to explain ⁓ why it was initially written like that until we could confirm the fact that it was Scott in the car. But anyway, it was a fun story. It was great to see SVG, who was genuinely one of Scott's best mates, getting amongst the comments really early. Actually I think one of the comments was I can't wait for the talking head on this one. And to his absolute credit, Scott came to the party and gave us what we wanted to hear. Which was ⁓ his take on how it all played out. So so yeah, it's just a ⁓ it was a fun Sunday story. speaker-0: Moving on, a proposed Adelaide Moto GP track map has been leaked to the public today that shows almost every corner from the current circuit the supercars races on are being reshaped or emitted entirely while several large gravel traps have been added. What is currently the first sequence of corners, the Shanna Chicane, has been turned into S's with gravel traps on either side. The Wakefield Road section has been shortened with the track cutting across East Terrace to create a new strait with S's at either end. It comes after Adelaide City Council Lord Mayor Old Two Dad's Jane Lomax Smith ⁓ said late last week that she is looking forward to Moto GP publishing its proposed layout ⁓ for the next year's Grand Prix of Australia. The track has been met with consternation from a vocal minority Adelaide of Adult Adelaide residents amid plans to cull mature trees in the area to facilitate the track extension. A stop the chop campaign, which was also like Fark in the Dark and other things that I could think of. ⁓ was launched in the wake of news that Moto GP would be coming to the parklands as well as plans to renovate North Adelaide golf course for Live Golf. Probably won't have to worry about that from what I've been told. ⁓ there have been concerns about the project will require the removal of at least 45 to 50 significant trees. Councillor Lomax Smith said residents were also concerned about a loss of access to the parklands, traffic disruption, facilities potentially being demol demolished for the race. ⁓ in May, the designer of the Adelaide Street Track that hosted the first Australian Grand Prix in nineteen eighty five, Bob Barnard, estimated it'll cost more than a hundred million dollars to remodel the course to host the Australian Moto GP. At the time, ⁓ state premier Malinask said that there had been no any suggestion of a hundred million dollar bill. This is just standard behavior for every time there's a new racetrack placed down anywhere. That's speaker-1: That's exactly what I was gonna say. There's like this is just gonna be a constant storyline until we get to November next year. speaker-0: How are those Albert Park crew? How are they travelling? 'Cause they seem speaker-1: Yeah. Exactly. ⁓ so yeah, this is just ⁓ all these issues are just gonna rumble along. Like I don't doubt for a second that it it is an enormous challenge to try and turn that circuit into something that's safe enough for a Moto GP event. So it's going to be a big job. It is going to require a lot of changes to a lot of parts of the roads and you know, they're gonna have to put gravel traps in the middle of the city. You know, when you walk around the track, which I did When I was there for the Adelaide Motorsport Festival in March, you just go, I don't actually see how they're gonna do it, but they've committed to doing it, so they're gonna do it. There must be a way to do it. But it's not something that can be done without someone getting upset about how they're going about it. Whether it's, you know, butterflies that are getting relocated from their habitat in some car park somewhere in the park or whatever. There's just it's just gonna keep rumbling along with this sort of stuff. speaker-0: There a rare frog at Homebush that was gonna get stopped. Whatever happened to that frog, because last time I was at Homebush it's just as busy as it's always been. speaker-1: There was, yep. Yeah, exactly. So this is just something that's gonna rumble along. So I'm still fascinated to see how they go about making this track. It's gonna be really interesting to see, but we're just gonna keep hearing these ⁓ these complaints. Like it's just yeah, it's just a thing that's going to ⁓ that's gonna happen. So ⁓ yeah, get used to it. speaker-0: Alright, as we alluded to before, a statement from the TA two series management alluded to a mass exodus of categories from the ASA series that they promote, including Legend Cars Australia and the Australian IRC Racing Series. Australia Supertrucks has also moved to Motorsport Australia after operating under ASA sanctioning for several seasons. ⁓ the statement which I won't read in full but it says after weeks of discussions with ASA sanctioning body and high tech the TA two muscle car series, IRC and Legend Cars have collectively decided to withdraw from the remaining rounds of the twenty twenty six championship series. It goes on, but essentially they blame ⁓ promises not being met around television and and and the like. Does this mean that they have something that they're going to go to AVL and what does it mean for AAASA as a whole moving forward? speaker-1: Yeah, it's a unfortunately messy situation. So obviously there is something in the works from the T A two alliance in terms of, you know, IRC and and legends. And then there was the the Formula R X eight that had already exited the ASA platform already. So look the the camel back breaking straw here does seem to be the coverage from the weekend, which was undoubtedly problematic. ⁓ not that a functional live stream option shouldn't be seen as legitimate broadcast these days, you know, it i it is. ⁓ but the YouTube feed died, the overall quality of the broadcast was lacking, particularly when c compared to what was promised to the categories and the competitors for the season, which was this SBS coverage, this KO coverage, and something that was being produced at a reasonably high level. A very expensive and probably too expensive level, but it was it was a big step down. If you look at the coverage from this weekend. That's a pretty fair thing to say, I think. But on the whole, it's just a shitty situation for a whole bunch of categories who need somewhere to race. And hopefully this is the catalyst for a new era of that sort of second, third tier level of motorsport in this country. ⁓ and it doesn't matter who sanctions it. Like it would seem, as we've talked about, that there's this there's a plan led by TA two for something that would probably be Motorsport Australia well would be Motorsport Australia sanctioned based on the kind of explosive way that that you know it all came to a head over this weekend. And there will be other categories looking to forge something new under double SA sanctioning. And that's what we need. Because between the demise of the old Speed Series or Shannon's Nationals and now this, it's just clear to me that the governing bodies moonlighting as promoters doesn't work. speaker-0: Yep. speaker-1: They are governing bodies. So double ASA is not going anywhere, right? Because it's it's just it's the promotional arm of what it's doing that is clearly yeah. In terms of licensing and sanctioning and all that sort of stuff, it can still do all that sort of stuff. So I just hope that on both the Motorsport Australia and the double ASA side that there's dedicated promoter models separate from the governing bodies that can provide a sustainable platform. speaker-0: Cool. speaker-1: To keep that level of the industry alive. That's what we need. And like I say, we've we've got two very good examples now of how the governing bodies themselves trying to do it doesn't work. So hopefully it might be hopefully it's short term pain, but the long term game is that on both sides of the governing body divide, there is a platform that can come out of the ashes of all this stuff and support these categories that want to go racing. And give competitors somewhere to go racing. speaker-0: Yeah, because you know supercars can't absorb all of them, although I'd like to see it, it would cheese it would fill the cart up nicely. But yeah, they just definitely need speaker-1: Also incredibly expensive to be part of a bill. So it's it's that's not sustainable for a whole bunch of categories as well. Yeah. So that's the ⁓ that that that's the issue. We need there there is space for a you know, obviously we've got the the SRO speed series thing. There needs to be something else to support that on the ⁓ A side because that's not a great fit, you know, T A two aren't gonna go and race there and all that sort of stuff. It needs to be something else there and then There's still categories that just are a better fit with double ASA. So we just need we just need proper promoter models on both sides for that level of motorsport and just let the governing bodies be governing bodies and not promoters. ⁓ yeah, maybe. speaker-0: And a summer series. ⁓ IndyCar President J. Douglas Bowles says he's open to the single seater series returning to Australia in the future. IndyCar's flirted with Australia to ⁓ return to Australia, I should say, ever since the series last visited in 2008 when it raced on the streets of the Gold Coast. Speaking on speed with Harvick and Buxton, ⁓ Bowles was asked whether IndyCar would think about working with supercars. He said we definitely would consider that. We've had several high level conversations over the last several years about doing something. ⁓ before entertaining that idea of Australia Bowl says that IndyCar was likely to go to Mexico and capitalize the success of Siri's most popular ⁓ driver, Pado Award. And then also they would be looking at going to Japan because of their close ties with engine supplier Honda. speaker-1: I'd be passing Big Pete Malinowskis' number on to ⁓ to old mate Bowles here if I was ⁓ thinking about this to be honest. That's what I'd be thinking about, more than the Gold Coast. I don't think that would necessarily work, but ⁓ Adelaide might. But ⁓ it's amazing they don't have a race in Mexico. That's actually amazing. speaker-0: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ I think they were planning on going to it this year, but because of the FIFA World Cup it just became too much. So I would imagine next year will you might see them there. And again, I don't know where in Japan they're talking about, but ⁓ yeah, it seems like that that would also be a If you could get a three legger and get Australia in the third leg of that, that'd be all right. Yeah. To see them see them here. Let's talk about Kiwi's Nossies overseas and the IndyCars. ⁓ during the week, IndyCars went to Ontario for the first time in a track in ⁓ Markham, ⁓ but they didn't get to practice on Friday. And IndyCar president Jay Douglas Bowl, the aforementioned, said the series is incredibly disappointed after promoters of its new Markham Circuit were not able to complete it. in time ahead of practice. The track has a 12 turn, 2.1 mile replacement for the Toronto Street Circuit, but it was not ready in time for the opening practice sessions on Friday due to unfinished track elements including race bridges, safety fencing, timing and scoring cables. So eventually they got out on Saturday and was met with a bit of ho hum, but I tell you, the racing was unbelievable. If you haven't had a look, even just go and watch the half hour highlights package on YouTube. It is unbelievably great racing. ⁓ Scotty McLaughlin qualified third. Scotty Dixon was eighth. Will Power was twenty-third after a big crash in practice and Marcus Armstrong was last. In the race, Will Power climbed all the way to third. Scotty Mack got to eighth. ⁓ he was sort of like off cycle on the pit stops. Scotty Dixon sixteenth Marcus Armstrong eighteenth. It was right won by ⁓ Marcus Erickson, his first r ⁓ IndyCar win. ⁓ championship leader Alex Pollau had an absolute shocker to finish fourth. That's a shocker in Alex Pollau's world if you're not sure. Did you see any of it? speaker-1: No, I haven't said anything, but ⁓ I've heard good things, yeah. Yeah, our colleague ⁓ Simon Chapman was raving about how good the race was this morning when I woke up. So ⁓ yeah, I will go back and have a watch. speaker-0: Really good. There's a hairpin in that track you have to see to believe. It is unbelievable. NASCAR, and we'll start with the trucks, because in his fifth start in NASCAR's third division, Shane Van Gisbergen clinched his first ever NASCAR Craftsman's Truck Series pole at Richmond Raceway. In the race, he salvaged fourth place at the finish after an uncontrolled wheel during a second round of pit stops, resulting in a penalty in relegating to the rear of the lead lap. Very strong and good signs that ⁓ things are improving on the circle tracks. ⁓ in NASCAR ⁓ in the main series, SVG came back to earth in qualifying. He grabbed 31st spot on the starting grid for the weekly Peace Talks 400 at Richmond. In the race, SVG gambled on a strategy to get up to 14th spot. It was actually a quid pretty good result in a race one by Joey Logano. And just before we go to a break, Josh Buccan ⁓ finished seventh overall in race one of the British G P GT series in O'Roden Ferrari. In race two he collected silver and victory in fifth overall. So well done to Josh whilst he was over there. Had a quick look, looked okay as well. We'll go to a break, we'll come back and preview the Ipswich Super four forty from Queensland Raceway. speaker-1: ⁓ just before we do go to the break former, I just want to touch on the Knoxville Nationals 'cause it was pretty newsy. Like Kyle Larson didn't know if he was going to be able to race because he was obviously racing in NASCAR. A rain delay helps him jump on a private jet, fly to Iowa, jump in a spring car and win the Knoxville Nationals for I think it was a four when he didn't even know if he was going to be starting the race. And he literally h jumped in the NASCAR not knowing if he was going to speaker-0: Time? speaker-1: be able to get to it it was dependent on a rain delay, which he got to go there and do it, which is ⁓ which is absolutely wild. Like I've ⁓ I've seen the bloke drive a spring car up close, but ⁓ I think that shows just how good he is to be able to just do something like that. And ⁓ James McFadden, fourth, which is like a good Aussie bloke. That's a ⁓ pretty big result. And Joy Corbett was the best rookie, I believe, of the event, which is ⁓ he's a Queenslander as well. So yeah, that's ⁓ that Pretty good result for ⁓ for all concerned over there. So yeah. speaker-0: Alright, we will now go to a break and we'll preview the Ipswitch Super four forty from Christian Raceway when we get back. speaker-1: Credit to speaker-0: No. Winter could spell bad news for your vehicle's battery. Here are three maintenance tips from the battery gurus at RNJ Batteries. One, avoid frequent short trips to keep your battery at a healthy state of charge. Two, keep the battery terminals clean and corrosion free. Three, avoid running your accessories with the engine off for too long. If your battery is three years or older, it might be time to get it tested for free at your local RJ Batteries. RJ Batteries Power like nothing else. Yeah, welcome back. ⁓ I thought we'd preview obviously the Ipswich race ⁓ from Queensland Raceway ⁓ on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Now weather AVL, I know you'll be interested this. Cloudy on Friday, chance of scattered showers on Saturday and Sunday, although not a lot of rain, so speaker-1: It's been pouring. It's Monday evening as we're recording this. It's been pouring here today. Really? Absolutely pissing down. Yep. speaker-0: Okay. On Friday we have two practice sessions back to back. They start at two forty PM. They're fifty minute sessions each from memory. And then on Saturday we have two 30 minute qualifying sessions and then two 39 lap races in the afternoon. Sunday is qualifying a top ten shootout and one sixty-two lap race around the Ipswich paper clip. ⁓ it's supported by Transams, Aussie race cars, ⁓ the eighty sixes in the JR Cup and Carrera Cup. Other stuff that's happening. If you've never seen this, go and have a look at Tony Quinn's nineteen ninety five SimTech Formula One car. It'll be out on track, as will his nineteen eighty nine Porsche nine six two C Group C, which ⁓ is yeah, both those cars are unbelievable pieces of history. So if you if you are gonna go out, have a look at those as well. Rideau AVL prediction time. Yep. Podium for the weekend. speaker-1: ⁓ Matt Payne, Brock Feeney, Cam Waters. speaker-0: Right I I've got Woody Chaz Pain. speaker-1: Wow, you're predicting those supers to fly around the paperclip. speaker-0: B Spec engines, my friend, those B Spec ⁓ trademark Stefan Bartholomez. ⁓ speaker-1: It's not actually meant to be any faster than than the other one, it's just meant to be more reliable. speaker-0: Sure. Sure. ⁓ the four might have found an old restrictor that that's been holding them back. What about shootout poll on Sunday? Chaz. Best Ruffy. We might have the same one here. ⁓ no, we don't. speaker-1: Rock Faney. I'm going Zach Bates. Well, you you thought I was going Jade you thought I was going Jaden O'Jader again, didn't you? No, remember how well Zach did there last year in the triple A car. Admittedly that was in a triple eight. Yeah, he did. But ⁓ yeah, that was in a triple eight car, obviously. But he's obviously got some miles up there and and I just fancy him for a bit of a reset, try and reclaim a bit of the form we really saw from him early in the season. speaker-0: Speed. Copter shoulder in the main street. speaker-1: Where it looks so promising and ⁓ yeah, I'd like to see Zach have a good weekend. speaker-0: Safety cars for the entire weekend. speaker-1: ⁓ I'll go two from the three races. speaker-0: Yeah, I got one. What's your unlikely headline from the weekend? speaker-1: ⁓ spectators complain about lack of visibility and dirty toilets. Cause it is it it is honestly like a having watched a bit of racing out there this weekend, like you can just see everything. It's one of the few tracks where you don't need to be in front of a T V screen. Yeah. You can just sit there and watch the racing. Yeah and it's good racing. It really is. speaker-0: the track it gets a a lot of shit from a lot of people, but I tell you what, it produces really good racing. It mightn't be the most interesting as far as you know undulations or things like that, but it it generally speaker-1: It's just like w it's just like Wannoroo. Th the the layout actually lends itself to overtaking. speaker-0: My unlikely headline is strange miss by a broadcasting team who failed to call Queensland Raceway the paperclip during the entire weekend. Yep. ⁓ if this is the answer, what's the question? The answer is two millimeters. What's the question? speaker-1: I've set this one out 'cause I feel like you're gonna make some really low brow male genitals related gag here. ⁓ really? speaker-0: gone I've I've gone how close will Brody be to Kai before he pulls out of his slipstream in practice one? Because there still might be some over ⁓ underlying tension between those two after the Western Australian race. Yep. If this is the answer, what's the question? The answer is Brock Feeney on poll. speaker-1: ⁓ who topped up former legends sports better count over the weekend? speaker-0: My question is, and this has come from a number of listeners who have pointed this out to me over the last few weeks. If the answer is Brock Feeney on pole position, the question is if AVL gets asked for a prediction ten times, what will he say ten times? speaker-1: That is that is it. You're right. It's just the safest bet. I can't get out of the habit. speaker-0: Love's back in favourites, what can we say? Yeah. All right. ⁓ enjoy your weekend if you do go out there. It is a good track. It's great for viewing, and Tony Quinn has made some remarkable improvements over there. They don't just paint the bins like they used to. They've actually done some stuff around the place. So get out there and speaker-1: And have a look there is a fairly decent chance it won't be on the calendar next year as well. So so it's ⁓ it's worth getting out there if you are hanging around. speaker-0: Yeah. That's a bit of a shame actually. ⁓ all right, we'll go to a break and we'll come back with rear of grid. speaker-1: Credit to the noise. speaker-0: Yeah, welcome back to Rear of Grid. Now AVL, ⁓ the Discord, if you're a member of Full Credit to the Noise, which you can find the membership on FCTN dot com. You will actually be given lots of stuff, including being able to speak to like minded, which is disturbing in some points. ⁓ like minded people, but also you're about to get word of ⁓ the next big event that we will be hosting. So speaker-1: That's an important way. It's actually been my saviour the Discord this weekend, 'cause I've kind of been at a bit of a loose end here in Brisbane with not a lot to do and I've just been like that's great, I can just sit here chatting with all these people and having a good time so ⁓ speaker-0: said you had you got eight massages, what were they? okay. speaker-1: No, I did not say that. That's not what I said. speaker-0: Yeah, get into the Discord if you can. It's it's a it's a bundle of fun. Even last weekend. It's there wasn't much on, so she was a little bit more quiet than usual. But ⁓ as one long term member said to me during the week, I'm struggling to keep up with all the conversations. He said I had to go back and and read through them. So yeah, you'll never be lonely if you're in there. Exactly. All right, I I need you some six credit or shreddits. Mm-hmm. You're gonna give me a credit or a shredit whether you disagree or agree, we'll come back after we're done. Number one. As the former Ford homologation team, DJ R would have got a little bit of joy from Triple Eight's predicament this week. speaker-1: ⁓ that's definitely a credit. speaker-0: Never has there been a clearer credit than that. Number two, Will Brown is in a peculiar position this weekend at Queensland Raceway. If he polls it, it's because they fixed his car. If he's pee nowhere, there will be even more pressure on him. speaker-1: ⁓ yeah, credit. speaker-0: Credit. Number three, in as far as results are concerned, Triple Eight would have been better off staying with Chef. speaker-1: D speaker-0: Credit. Yeah, credit. ⁓ number four. There's no shame in crashing a car at an exhibition event, even if it's in Latvia. Credit. Really? Credit. We'll come back to that. Number five. The loss to Bangladesh is the darkest day for Australian cricket this decade. speaker-1: Full credit. speaker-0: Yeah, credit. Number six, off the back of the logies, there are no such thing as T V stars in the current day. speaker-1: Nah, I shredded speaker-0: Credit. ⁓ all right. We agree with the ⁓ DJI finding joy. speaker-1: Yeah, I reckon I reckon there's a fair bit of shard and fraud going on in Ryan Story's mind right now. No, he hasn't actually said anything like that, but I I think it's a pretty fair assumption. speaker-0: ⁓ Will Brown's under p a peculiar press press sorry, Will Brown's in a peculiar position this weekend. no poll means he's fixed the car, P nowhere, more pressure. speaker-1: Yeah, I think I think that's true. I also reckon Will would happily take the pop. speaker-0: Hm. Yeah, no doubt about it at all. Yeah. ⁓ Results Triple Eight would have been better off staying with Ford. I think that's a actually a a pretty straightforward statement, isn't it? speaker-1: Yeah, ⁓ it's a short term credit, ⁓ because it's hard to imagine that they wouldn't have won more races this year with the hardware that they were accustomed to. ⁓ but I'm sure the medium term future will look bright enough for Triple H. speaker-0: There's no shame in crashing a car at a Latvian exhibition event. speaker-1: Yeah, that's way more fun than just doing a burnout. The crowd would have loved it. You could hear it in the video. Like it's awesome. speaker-0: Wasn't the coolest looking crash I've gotta say. Wan wandering onto the skid pen and just going too far too straight. Whatever. But ⁓ yeah, fair enough. speaker-1: What you do have to think about is the fact that it's it's easy to kind of and obviously he wasn't trying to do a burnout when he when he did the crash, but it's actually probably more pressure than you think it is because unless you're someone who's won a whole bunch of supercars races and done a whole heap of burnouts in these cars, you don't just do burnouts in supercars. You know, like so obviously, you know, Scott was a race winner in supercars, but he's n Probably not someone who's done a heap of burnouts in one of these cars because you don't just rock up on a test day at Winton and say, I'm just speaker-0: That's a sharp way to say he hasn't won many times. Jesus. speaker-1: No, it's not what I what I'm saying is you don't just rock up at a test day and go, I might just go rip some burnouts. Like it's not something you do all that often. So it's actually in Scott's absolute defense, probably harder than you think to just jump in it and go, All right, just go rip some skids because guys get good at it, you know, but it's you have to be a regular race winner to be doing a lot of it. Yeah. Otherwise you're just you're not doing it. So speaker-0: ⁓ the loss to Bangladesh is the darkest day for Australian cricket this decade. ⁓ D did lose to West ⁓ West Indies at the Gabba, but I think this is worse. Losing to the bangers in Darwin. Jeez. And off the back of the logies, there are no TV stars. speaker-1: Watch. Yeah, it's a tough watch. So you don't think Sam Pang's a T V star? speaker-0: Mate, I think he's a comedian. ⁓ I guess he's he might actually be the exception to the rule in this. ⁓ I love Siampang, as anyone who knows me will tell you, but geeze there's not a lot like there used to be, you know what I mean? speaker-1: I watched a I watched a bit of the logies and ⁓ yeah, I don't know. No, no, just just had it on the background last night. speaker-0: Couldn't find the remote or Yeah, I don't know. Just not what they used to be. Maybe that's a good thing too, by the way. Rotto, our letter of the week comes from Matt JA in the Discord. He says with the manufacturer alliances that each brand has with the teams, are we at a point where there's really only three teams now with all of the data and setup sharing that goes on? Is the use of different DM teams data somewhat cheating? You wouldn't have seen teams from bygone eras d doing this, i.e. F P R, HRT, DJR, etcetera. speaker-1: This has been going on for a long time. Like DJR was a T eight customer team. Before that it was an FBR customer team. You know, you had HRT and Kelly Racing that was kind of one big team. And to be honest, we've almost seen a return to teams not doing this this year because none of those really competitive Ford teams want to be in any sort of alliance or sharing data, right? So that was one of the f sort of fallouts of Triple Eight moving to Ford was that they had a number of customers on the GM side in terms of people wanting to pay for the for the data and that sort of stuff, whereas now they don't really have that. There's only Blanchards. So there's only one team that they're able to do that with. But even like it's still quite limited in supercars, if you really think about it, because you compare it to NASCAR, like every team gets access to everyone else's data. All the time. Yeah. That's how that that's how that series works. It's not something you even pay for. That's just how it works. The data is available to everyone. So I don't think it's necessarily a modern thing. And I think what we also know is that it's not it's never a silver bullet to just get to the front of the field either. Because having the setup sheet for what Brock Feeney's doing doesn't mean you can bolt it in your car and qualify and pole. It's just not that easy. That that example probably stretches back to last season when you had, you know, the likes of Premier having access to their data. So I don't think it's a big problem. speaker-0: Yeah, I think the days that Matt might be talking about there, that was nearly thirty years ago, twenty-five years ago, where it was very secretive around data and things like that. And people were actually being accused of sharing data. speaker-1: Yeah, and and and and data wasn't as advanced as it was then. ⁓ and obviously there's avenues now through the the onboard cameras and that sort of stuff that's publicly available that all the data gets scraped out of as well. So it's a it's a it's kind of a complicated science really, but it's still like I say, it's no nowhere near as open as as NASCAR, for example. speaker-0: Alright, that'll about do us for this episode. A full credit to the noise. Don't forget you can find this show on all the socials at FCTN Podcast. You can read ABL's excellent work at speedcafe.com where they do break all the big motorsport news first. Until next time, I've been Former Legend, he's been ABL. This has been Full Credit to the Noise and we'll see you at the paperclip. speaker-1: I'll be there. Full credit to the noise.