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Onboard an Extraterrestrial Craft: Seven Firsthand Cases · UFOS & PARANORMAL WITH PRESTON DENNETT

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  Speaker 1: Hello everyone. My name is Preston Dennett, and thank you
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  Speaker 1: for joining me for a new episode of UFOs and
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  Speaker 1: the Paranormal. Today, I'm going to be talking about the
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  Speaker 1: ultimate type of UFO counter and that is the onboard experience.
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  Speaker 1: The title of today's episode is Onboard and Extraterrestrial Craft,
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  Speaker 1: Seven first hand cases. I like this aspect of upology
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  Speaker 1: because these are the kinds of cases that I think
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  Speaker 1: really have the most data to them, have the most
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  Speaker 1: potential to answer the many, many questions surrounding extraterrestrial contact.
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  Speaker 1: In the seven cases I've chosen for you today absolutely
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  Speaker 1: are very extensive. In each of these cases, people were
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  Speaker 1: able to converse directly with the ets and get quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit of information about them, so that I think
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  Speaker 1: makes these cases very important. These kinds of cases I
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  Speaker 1: think are the cutting edge of UFO research and deserve
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  Speaker 1: far more attention than they're getting now. The seven cases
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  Speaker 1: I've chosen for you today cover quite a period of time,
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  Speaker 1: all the way from nineteen seventeen up into practically the
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  Speaker 1: current day, and again come from all over the world.
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  Speaker 1: The seven cases I've chosen for you today include Canada, Finland,
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  Speaker 1: Soviet Union, Brazil, and three cases in the United States,
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  Speaker 1: including Alaska, Alabama, and the state of Washington. These are
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  Speaker 1: really amazing cases. Several of them are supported by some
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  Speaker 1: very interesting evidence, such as landing traces, or physiological effects
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  Speaker 1: or animal reactions and more so, this is not just
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  Speaker 1: people telling purely anecdotal story. There is some evidence to
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  Speaker 1: support these cases either way. They're all first hand cases,
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  Speaker 1: meaning the witnesses do speak about it in their own words,
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  Speaker 1: and that I find particularly interesting. So let's just get started,
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  Speaker 1: because this is going to be a pretty long episode,
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  Speaker 1: I think. In the first case I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about today, I call the disappearance of any Latu. This
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  Speaker 1: is a very early case. It occurred in January or
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  Speaker 1: thereabouts April of nineteen seventeen in Jirinvara, Finland. And what
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  Speaker 1: makes this case so interesting is that onboard encounters that
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  Speaker 1: pre date the modern age of UFOs and the mid
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  Speaker 1: nineteen forty seven are exceedingly rare, and yet here we
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  Speaker 1: have one that's quite an early case, and it contains
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  Speaker 1: many of the elements we see in modern cases. At
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  Speaker 1: that time, the idea of being taken on board a
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  Speaker 1: craft and meeting with extraterrestrials was not really in the
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  Speaker 1: public consciousness in a factual way. And here we have
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  Speaker 1: a case which is really extensive, so I think you'll
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  Speaker 1: find it pretty interesting. This case comes from Finnish researcher
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  Speaker 1: Mauritz Haitimaki, and it was published in the Nordic UFO
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  Speaker 1: newsletter and in the UFO Research of Finland Annual Report.
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  Speaker 1: But it actually first appeared in the newspaper Kirki Jolikanin
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  Speaker 1: and since then has been fairly widely published. This incident
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  Speaker 1: took place in the small village of Jhirinvara also called Alho,
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  Speaker 1: according to some sources, west of kirki Joki, Finland. There
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  Speaker 1: does appear to be some confusion about the exact location,
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  Speaker 1: by Lake kankin Lumpi. Others say it's Lake Ladoga. At
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  Speaker 1: any rate, The witness was Annie Latu, age forty four.
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  Speaker 1: She lived with her husband in this small village and
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  Speaker 1: was well known to the residents there. But one day
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  Speaker 1: in early nineteen seventeen, in the beginning of the year
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  Speaker 1: January April, she disappeared. Local villagers assumed that she had
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  Speaker 1: gone to visit her daughter, but upon her return Annie
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  Speaker 1: said that no, she had actually been taken into a
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  Speaker 1: craft by strange beings. According to Annie, she was walking
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  Speaker 1: to her home carrying a load of wood through the snow,
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  Speaker 1: and this is when her encounter began. She saw this craft,
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  Speaker 1: as Annie says, I spotted it, just before dusk. It
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  Speaker 1: stood there as if it were part of the forest,
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  Speaker 1: yet it did not come from it. A huge metal bowl,
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  Speaker 1: like an upside down sink, gleamed silently by the lake shore.
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  Speaker 1: The air was still, the birds were silent, so Annie
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  Speaker 1: describes this object as metallic, huge, with a very smooth surface,
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  Speaker 1: kind of reminding her of a gigantic wash basin or
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  Speaker 1: a soup plate. She said. It landed right next to
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  Speaker 1: her cottage. She could see a thin metal ladder extending
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  Speaker 1: from the bottom of the machine, and coming down this
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  Speaker 1: ladder were short, little figures, no more than waist high,
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  Speaker 1: she said, with long arms and shiny eyes, moving in
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  Speaker 1: a strange way. She didn't really describe them any further
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  Speaker 1: than that, but again, at this time, UFOs and visitors
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  Speaker 1: from other planets were not really part of the public consciousness,
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  Speaker 1: so this never crossed her mind. But it was clear
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  Speaker 1: to her that these beings were not human, so she
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  Speaker 1: told herself devils they've come for me now. Weirdly, she
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  Speaker 1: felt no fear at first, just a strange silence. Then
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  Speaker 1: one of the beings raised its hand and pointed at her,
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  Speaker 1: and she heard a voice in her head saying come on.
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  Speaker 1: And her legs, she said, seemed to move of their
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  Speaker 1: own will, and she found herself involuntarily walking towards the craft.
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  Speaker 1: At this point she did become afraid and tried to resist,
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  Speaker 1: but before she could, she found herself taken inside this craft.
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  Speaker 1: And once she was inside, she was surprised to see
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  Speaker 1: that it was fully lit and that the light cast
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  Speaker 1: no shadows. The interior of this craft was very clean,
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  Speaker 1: shiny and smooth, and also pleasantly warm compared to the
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  Speaker 1: winter weather that she had been in moments before. And
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  Speaker 1: inside there were many of these small little men, she said.
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  Speaker 1: They moved very quickly, and she was also surprised that
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  Speaker 1: she was able to understand them without warning. This craft
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  Speaker 1: took off in perfect silence. This also surprised her, as
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  Speaker 1: she was used to being on noisy trains which made
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  Speaker 1: a lot of noise, but when this thing moved, it
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  Speaker 1: was perfectly silent. She said that there were many little
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  Speaker 1: seats inside the craft. Which also were very warm and comfortable,
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  Speaker 1: and she said the beings were very friendly. Now, per Annie,
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  Speaker 1: these little beings flew her in their craft very fast,
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  Speaker 1: all across the planet, all over Earth, showing her many
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  Speaker 1: wonderful things. One of these beings appeared to be the leader,
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  Speaker 1: or it was he who communicated with her. Now she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't sure if they were just wanting to examine her
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  Speaker 1: or if they were trying to teach her something, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she said, they showed her many things. She saw the
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  Speaker 1: world from above. She described oceans, cities she had never
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  Speaker 1: visited before, huge mountains, and at one point they took
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  Speaker 1: her out into outer space showed her the stars, which
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  Speaker 1: she said looked so close they were like sparkling flowers
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  Speaker 1: on a black background, is how she put it. So
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  Speaker 1: this went on for quite some time. Towards the end
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  Speaker 1: of the experience, the beings offered her to stay. When
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  Speaker 1: she heard this, Annie became filled with sadness and homesickness,
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  Speaker 1: and she told them no. She wanted to go back
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  Speaker 1: home to her normal life. And the next thing she knew,
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  Speaker 1: she was waking up on the road in front of
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  Speaker 1: her cottage where she had been taken. There was some
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  Speaker 1: ice in her hair was cold, so she went home
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  Speaker 1: and before long started sharing her story with the local villagers. Now,
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  Speaker 1: these people were pretty religious, and they told her that
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  Speaker 1: these beings must have been little devils, so she kind
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  Speaker 1: of accepted that explanation because she did not know how
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  Speaker 1: to categorize this experience, and people really wondered about what
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  Speaker 1: she was saying. They thought she was kind of strange.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps she had gotten a bad scare, or hallucinated or
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  Speaker 1: dreamed the event, or got a fever, or was isolated
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  Speaker 1: as an old woman. But actually she was a very
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  Speaker 1: respected person in this community, and despite the skepticism of
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  Speaker 1: many of the people around her, she stuck to her
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  Speaker 1: story and told anyone who would listen, and told this
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  Speaker 1: story for years without any change in detail. Another interesting
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  Speaker 1: fact is that she became very well known in her
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  Speaker 1: community for her clairvoyance and her ability to read poems
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  Speaker 1: and her psychic abilities. How amazing is that all the
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  Speaker 1: details that Annie describes with her encounter are details we
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  Speaker 1: hear over and over again. Telepathy, the interior of the
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  Speaker 1: craft being very well lit with no discernible light source,
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  Speaker 1: being taken on a tour around the world or up
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  Speaker 1: into space, very very interesting. Also very interesting to me
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  Speaker 1: is that the ets offered to let her stay with them.
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  Speaker 1: She of course declined the offer. But a really interesting
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  Speaker 1: case because again at that time, people were just not
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  Speaker 1: talking about this, and although there were quite a few
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  Speaker 1: skeptics in terms of the people in her village, she
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  Speaker 1: stuck to her guns. She absolutely insisted her experience was
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  Speaker 1: entirely real. I also find it interesting that she became
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  Speaker 1: very well known for her psychic abilities clairvoyance, soothsaying, as
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  Speaker 1: some put it. So that is another pattern we see
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  Speaker 1: with contactees, and it's absolutely prominent with that witness, Annie Latou.
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  Speaker 1: So now let's move to the next case. I found
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  Speaker 1: this one to be particularly poignant and so unusual. I
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  Speaker 1: have not heard a case quite like this. There are
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  Speaker 1: many details, of course, that are quite familiar, but as
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  Speaker 1: always there's always some details that are unique, and as
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  Speaker 1: you'll see, this case definitely has some high strangeness to it.
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  Speaker 1: I call this one I was lifted into the sky.
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  Speaker 1: This occurred in June of nineteen fifty three in the
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  Speaker 1: small town of Phoenix City, Alabama. This case is virtually unknown,
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's an important case that deserves more attention.
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  Speaker 1: Just because it has such weird details and again really poignant.
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  Speaker 1: This firsthand eyewitness account comes from a gentleman by the
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  Speaker 1: name of Derek that is a pseudonym. He wants to
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  Speaker 1: remain anonymous. It was the summer of nineteen fifty three
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  Speaker 1: and he lived on Cedar Lane in Phoenix City, Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: At the time, that was a very small dirt road,
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  Speaker 1: quite isolated, very rural. It was afternoon and Derek was
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  Speaker 1: only five years old. He was walking home after spending
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  Speaker 1: some time at the local market, and as he walked
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  Speaker 1: down the north side of Cedar, who was very careful
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  Speaker 1: to walk on the far side of the street as
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  Speaker 1: far from a nearby ravine as possible. As it turned out,
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  Speaker 1: while walking home on two earlier occasions, he had been
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  Speaker 1: frightened by the appearance of a quote large hairy ape
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  Speaker 1: like man very much like a bigfoot, which was wandering
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  Speaker 1: among the kudzu that grew in that area. And as
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  Speaker 1: Derek says, although the creature never threatened me, I was
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  Speaker 1: afraid to get too close. So it was shortly after
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  Speaker 1: passing this ravine where he had seen this big foot
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  Speaker 1: like creature that his UFO counter began. And I'll just
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  Speaker 1: quote Derek directly, as he says, I was halfway across
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  Speaker 1: the dirt road when I was struck in the forehead
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  Speaker 1: by a bright, narrow beam of light from above. The
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  Speaker 1: beam was less than two inches in diameter. It made
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  Speaker 1: no sound, nor had any feeling, but it was amazingly
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  Speaker 1: bright to be seen during a mid afternoon. I gazed
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  Speaker 1: skyward and I saw a large gray disc suspended very
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  Speaker 1: high over the backyard of my home. Immediately, I was
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  Speaker 1: lifted up into the sky at very high speed. Now
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  Speaker 1: Derek didn't feel any sensation of being lifted. Instead, it
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  Speaker 1: felt almost to him like he was falling, except for
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  Speaker 1: the direction was definitely upwards and directly into the craft. Now,
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  Speaker 1: from this point his memory does get a little hazy,
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  Speaker 1: but he distinctly remembers being taken into this craft, into
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  Speaker 1: a strange room and seeing extraterrestrial beings. As Derek says,
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  Speaker 1: my memory is clouded about the ensuing details. I seemed
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  Speaker 1: to recall being greeted by at least three persons inside
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  Speaker 1: the craft. I can't describe what they looked like. I'm
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  Speaker 1: assuming they did not look like monsters, because I did
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  Speaker 1: not panic. I recall being on a table and something
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  Speaker 1: sharp was being stuck into my left nostril. It wasn't painful,
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  Speaker 1: but it was uncomfortable. I also recall being told it
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  Speaker 1: was a beneficial procedure. They weren't speaking words, we were
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  Speaker 1: communicating via thoughts. I was also told not to tell
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  Speaker 1: anybody what happened. They also told me that the hairy
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  Speaker 1: creature in the ravine would not harm me. The next thing,
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  Speaker 1: I recall, I was inside my house, standing behind a
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  Speaker 1: sheer curtain in the parlor. I don't know how I
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  Speaker 1: got there, So Derek did not tell anybody, especially because
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  Speaker 1: the weird events had really only just begun. That night,
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  Speaker 1: something incredibly bizarre happened that he knew nobody would believe.
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  Speaker 1: As Derek says, that night, I woke up in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the night and saw the hairy creature standing
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  Speaker 1: next to my bed. He was so tall his head
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  Speaker 1: bumped against the light bulb that was hanging from the ceiling.
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  Speaker 1: And next to him was a shorter, similarly hairy woman
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  Speaker 1: holding a baby creature. The hair on the adults lay
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  Speaker 1: flat on their bodies. The hair on the baby was
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  Speaker 1: fuzzy and stood away from its body. Suddenly, the baby
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  Speaker 1: jumped up from its mother's arms and bounced on my bed.
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  Speaker 1: She reached down to pick him up, and as it
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  Speaker 1: was being lifted, the small creature peered on my bed.
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  Speaker 1: The father seemed perturbed by the incident, and the three
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  Speaker 1: of them exited my room, went through the parlor and
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  Speaker 1: out the front door. I never saw any hairy creatures again,
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  Speaker 1: So yes, this is quite bizarre. Derek knew this, and
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  Speaker 1: he did his best to forget these incidents, but there
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  Speaker 1: were several strange after effects from these encounters. For a
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  Speaker 1: period of about ten years following this, Derek suffered from
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  Speaker 1: boils on his body and chronic nosebleeds. He also began
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  Speaker 1: having many out of body experiences at night and would
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  Speaker 1: fly all around the house and the area where he
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  Speaker 1: lived now. Sometimes, when he returned from his astral projection experiences,
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  Speaker 1: he said he would slam into his body so hard
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  Speaker 1: he would physically bounce off the bed. Thankfully, following high school,
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  Speaker 1: the nosebleeds slowed down and eventually stopped. He grew up,
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  Speaker 1: began to work in the military as a soldier, later
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  Speaker 1: as a commercial fisherman and a pest control technician, and
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  Speaker 1: he said he always enjoyed really excellent health. As he says,
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  Speaker 1: I was an extremely healthy person. I did not have
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  Speaker 1: a primary doctor. I was never sick. The only time
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  Speaker 1: I saw a doctor was when I had injuries. Now
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  Speaker 1: decades later, in two thousand and five, Derek, now around
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  Speaker 1: age fifty seven, began to be bothered by something like
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  Speaker 1: a pimple in the inside of his left nostril. Over
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  Speaker 1: the next four years, it continued to irritate him, and
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  Speaker 1: suddenly it sprouted quote something that resembled a stiff hair.
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  Speaker 1: So he tried using scissors to cut it, but the
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  Speaker 1: thing would not cut. So one day he just grabbed
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  Speaker 1: a pair of tweezers and he yanked it out, and
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  Speaker 1: as Derek says, it was not a hare. Removing that
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  Speaker 1: thing was very painful. It looked like a section of
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  Speaker 1: thick monofilament from a fishing line a forty to fifty
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  Speaker 1: pound test line. Was more than an inch long, although
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  Speaker 1: less than a quarter inch had been visible when I
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  Speaker 1: removed it. I tossed it into the trash, so this
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  Speaker 1: is an apparent implant. Now, four years after this, Derek
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  Speaker 1: was diagnosed and treated for throat cancer. He barely survived,
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  Speaker 1: but he did. It was two years after that, in
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  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen that he decided to make an official report
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  Speaker 1: about his childhood encounters decades earlier, and as Derek says,
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  Speaker 1: I never spoke of these things to anyone. I tried
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  Speaker 1: to forget they even happened. There's nothing special about me.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up in an area and an era when
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  Speaker 1: things like UFOs were not even discussed. It wasn't until
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  Speaker 1: much later in life that I became curious. I'm filing
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  Speaker 1: this report because things are only now becoming more clear
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  Speaker 1: in my memory about unexplained things that happened in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I am curious to know whether or not I may
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  Speaker 1: have had contact with alien beings. As you can see,
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  Speaker 1: in many ways, that's your standard case of someone being
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  Speaker 1: taken on board and examined, and yet really unusual details
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  Speaker 1: with the Bigfoot connection. I also found it interesting that
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  Speaker 1: this witness reported having excellent health for most of his life.
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  Speaker 1: This is a pattern we see in so many cases.
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  Speaker 1: There's also, of course, the implant. That is another thing
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  Speaker 1: we see quite often. So yeah, a pretty amazing case
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  Speaker 1: by all means. All right, now we move to another
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  Speaker 1: very interesting case, which I call I was being watched.
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  Speaker 1: This one occurred in nineteen sixty one in a suburb
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  Speaker 1: of Alta Vista. This is in Canada and a super
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  Speaker 1: interesting case. This witness reports quite a few experiences throughout
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  Speaker 1: her life, but as we often see, beginning in early childhood.
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  Speaker 1: In this case, she did use hypnosis to recover some
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  Speaker 1: of her memories, but certainly did have some conscious recollections
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  Speaker 1: of encounters as well. But another fascinating case that deserves
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  Speaker 1: to be well known. This case comes from UFO researcher
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  Speaker 1: and author Robert Colombo and was published in his book
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  Speaker 1: UFOs Over Canada. The witness is a lady by the
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  Speaker 1: name of Joyce Halfin aka Joyce Aldrich. She's a journalist,
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  Speaker 1: an artist and a musician. Was back in nineteen sixty
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  Speaker 1: one when she was six years old that her encounter occurred.
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  Speaker 1: She was living in a row house on Eastern Drive
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  Speaker 1: in an Ottawa suburb called Alta Vista, not far from
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  Speaker 1: Rockcliff Air Force Base. You can see it here. One evening,
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  Speaker 1: she woke up and had a feeling that she was
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  Speaker 1: being watched. She looked to the window and saw what
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  Speaker 1: she called spacemen. They looked like figures with large helmets
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  Speaker 1: and visors. The next thing she knew she was suddenly
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  Speaker 1: flying high up in the air looking down on our
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  Speaker 1: housing complex. She saw a big, bright light and that
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  Speaker 1: was all she could remember. At that time. She wrote
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  Speaker 1: it off as some kind of dream, but she never
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  Speaker 1: forgot about it, always wondered about it because it definitely
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  Speaker 1: was not a dream. And later in life she started
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  Speaker 1: having more encounters, so she finally decided to go under
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  Speaker 1: regressive hypnosis, and she recalled that she was actually taken
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  Speaker 1: on board a craft at that time, and as Joy says,
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  Speaker 1: the spacemen who I thought were wearing large helmets with visors,
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  Speaker 1: ended up having large egg shaped heads and large insect
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  Speaker 1: like eyes. They came through the wall of my home
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  Speaker 1: and one of them picked me up. We then floated
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  Speaker 1: up to the ceiling, passed through it, and through the roof,
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  Speaker 1: where I remember looking down at a brightly lit area.
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  Speaker 1: When I looked up, I saw a large circular craft
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  Speaker 1: ringed with two sets of lights. We rose to the
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  Speaker 1: center area of the craft and a portal opened into
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  Speaker 1: a bay area. There were other beings standing there wearing
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  Speaker 1: different apparel, who were slightly taller than my companions, who
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  Speaker 1: were only four to five feet in height. I was
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  Speaker 1: taken to what at first looked like an elevator. A
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  Speaker 1: door opened and we entered a very dark room. I
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  Speaker 1: could still see the aliens. They moved with the precise,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: graceful movements of a praying mantis, deftly moving their large
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: heads on delicate necks. So Joyce stared at them in wonder,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and she was particularly impressed by their very large eyes.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And at this point a telepathic exchange followed, during which
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: the etes explained that their eyes were in some ways
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: insect like, but where we see only the surface level
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of things, they can do an in depth analysis and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: actually see the cellular structures of things and beyond. After this,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: an oval door opened into a corridor, and Joyce said
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: she was led to her room, where there are three
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: or four more beings standing behind a kind of hospital
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: gurney or table, and they placed her on top of it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And as Joyce says, I was told they were going
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to check my eyes. First, they put a dark cloth
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: over them and playfully lifted it off an eye and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: then the other. Then they took an instrument to retract
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: my lids so they could have a closer look. A
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: large machine which resembled an X ray machine was held
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: over my eyes. There were two long tubes attached to it,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and the aliens said they were going to try to
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: feed information into my eyes to see how much could
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: be implanted into the brain. Soon after the procedure began,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I got a terrible headache and asked them to stop.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: They did, and I was ushered to a small stool
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: to sit for a while, and that was pretty much
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the encounter. Shortly later, she was brought
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: back to her bedroom in the same manner she was taken,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: but later she would have other encounters. A major one
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: occurred on June twenty ninth, nineteen eighty nine, when she
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: woke up to see four beings in her bedroom, each
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: about seven feet tall, with extremely thin arms and legs
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and very small heads. She really couldn't recall anything else consciously,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: but under hypnosis she did remember that she was again
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: taken up through the roof of her house into a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: sort of boomerang shaped craft. The etes told her it
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: was a quote lightship that they used light to travel interdimensionally,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and they went into some detail about this. They told
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: her also that the current Earth space program is doomed
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: to failure but that eventually physicists would learn how to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: use light to travel interdimensionally. They told her that humans
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: are largely stuck in the third dimension and that we
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: think that death is the only way to reach a
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: higher dimension, which they said is not true. They talked
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: about the tunnel that near death experiencers see, and as
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: joy says, the light at the end of the tunnel
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: is actually a portal to another dimension. The alien said
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: that we can pass through the portal without dying, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that we have to shake off our old ideas about space,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: time and death. So it sounds like they're talking about
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: astral projection, which anyone can do now. Joyce has since
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: learned that many other people in her family have had encounters.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: One evening, her young son described what she believes was
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the UFO sighting. Her mother told her that she used
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to see glowing golden orbs entering her bedroom all the time,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and she also reported a wide variety of psychic experiences,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: premonitions by location experiences, and once actually levitated right in
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: front of her showed her that she could levitate. Also,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: her uncle told her that back in June of nineteen
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: fifty nine, while he was driving to work, down Impress Street,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: he saw a bright cylindrical object covered with flashing lights
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: hovering in the sky. It then took off really fast
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and was gone. As a report. Having many other psychic experiences,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and she later hosted her own podcast about arts, entertainment
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and of course UFOs and the paranormal. There are lots
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of details in that case that I found particularly fascinating.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: How the ets described to her that they travel interdimensionally.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: I found that fascinating. Also fascinating to me was how
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: she described the history of UFO encounters in her family
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: and especially with her mother, who reportedly levitated. That is
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: super interesting to me because I've heard that with quite
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: a few contactees. And of course the witness describes how
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: she herself had some amazing psychic experiences. Really really interesting
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: details in that case. So now let's move to the
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: next one, which is somewhat well known. I hadn't heard
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: of it before, but it's a fascinating case which comes
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: out of Russia. That alone, I think it is important
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: because we don't get a lot of cases coming out
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: of this area. I call this next one it actually
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: happened to me. This was in June of nineteen seventy
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: eight at Lake Pirogovsko in the Soviet Union. And what's
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: interesting about this case is that the witness is a
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: high ranking Soviet military officer, so a good credible witness.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: But some of the details he describes are absolutely unusual.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I've never heard them before. Some of course, are very familiar.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: What's really interesting is he does claim that he was
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: taken to apparently another planet, So that alone makes this
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: case very extensive. And yeah, like in all of these
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: cases that I'm presenting today, he was able to converse
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: directly with the ets, so I think you'll find it
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a pretty interesting case. This next very interesting case comes
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: from Russian eufologist Nikita A. Shni. The witness is a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: high ranking officer in the Soviet Army by the name
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of Anatoly Malishev. Was one day in late May or
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: early June nineteen seventy eight, Anatoly was walking near Lake Pirogovsko.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: And I couldn't find the exact location, so I'm not
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: exactly sure where this is. But according to Anatolely, without warning,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: two very unusual looking men grabbed him by the arms.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Both were dressed. He said in a very strange kind
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: of dull colored cellophane like garments. Anatolely had trouble remembering
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: what their faces looked like, and he said he was
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: overcome by fear. Then the beings began to communicate with him, saying, quote,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: we'd like to talk to you. It'll take just a
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: few seconds. Everything we'll talk about will be erased and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: you'll forget it now. Per Anatoly, the men didn't actually
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: say these words, as he says, I could feel their words,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: and I, in my turn, didn't talk, but thought, and
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: they understood me. So he's describing telepathy and hearing these
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: beings communicate with him. Anatole's fear lifted, and, as he says,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I felt lighthearted and free. He sensed that these men
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: were from another world and told them again through telepathy
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that he had nothing against talking with representatives from another civilization.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And the next thing he knew he was inside what
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: appeared to be a craft, as Anatole says, the next moment,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I remember myself being at a table in a dome
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: like room. It was bright inside. The walls were bright
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and white, but I can't say where the light came from,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: as I didn't notice lamps of any kind. There were
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: two figures sitting at a table, and I can visualize
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: them only hazily. Part of the room opposite me was
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in the dark. I could just see some small tables
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: with buttons and a big screen like a TV set.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Though after hearing that these beings were planning on erasing
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: his memory of the event, anatolely became determined to remember.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: So he says, I had to try one of our
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: old customs, and he told them it's a rule here
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: to celebrate such important meetings with a drink. So the
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: beings brought him a sort of spherical shaped glass tumbler
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: with a liquid that looked a little bit like lemonade,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but when he tasted it, he said it had an
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: almost salty taste, and anatolely told them that such occasions
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: should be celebrated with a stronger liquor. Now they seemed
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: interested and somewhat puzzled by this request and asked him
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: for further information about this. Anatole was intelligent. He knew
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: about the chemistry of alcohol and told them he could
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: write it down. So they directed him to stand by
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: the wall and told him to write it there as
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Anatole says, with slight surprise, I began to write with
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: my finger on the wall, and quite clear traces were left.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It was just like writing on misted glass or on
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: black velvet. I drew the formula and structure of alcohol
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: for them, and one of them said, we'll make it
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: right away and disappeared into the gloom. He then reappeared
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: with a glass in his hand and gave it to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: me naturally. Anatolely was quite surprised by this and asked them,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: how is it that such a highly developed civilization does
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: not use something like this? And one of them replied
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: again telepathically, maybe if we used it, we would never
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: have been so highly developed. Anatolely felt like they were
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: kind of joking with him, but he had more questions,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: so he asked them, why don't you help Earth's people
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: in their struggle against evil? They asked him what evil?
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Anatole told them against poverty, fascism, they're rich, and so on,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And their response was that they would have to help
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: the poor people and the rich, and that it would
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: ultimately be difficult to know whom to help, and that
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: they have elected not to interfere and are here just
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to watch us now. He asked them where they came from,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: and they told him that they were from another planet
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: in another stellar system. He asked them many things and
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they answered all his questions. Anatotally estimates that this conversation
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: lasted for about three hours, but he was only able
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to remember small portions of it now. At some point
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: during the encounter, the ets told him to step outside
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: of the craft as they wanted to put on a
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: quote flying show for him. So he stepped outside, apparently
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: still on Earth, though this isn't perfectly clear, and he
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: watched the craft rise up three hundred feet in altitude,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: and it then proceeded to change shape from a classic disc,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he said to Spherracle, then seemed almost to open up
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: like ap peeled orange. Then it went back to a
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: spherical shape, and finally a disc shape again. He was
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: brought back into the craft, which now went into outer space,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and per Anatolely, they actually flew to the far side
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of the Moon and the Etes showed him what appeared
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: to be some kind of alien base there. They then
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: flew him to their home planet. They told him per anatolely,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: that their planet was three light years from Earth. That's
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: what he says. They told him they landed on a
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: non Earth planet at some type of what looked like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a spaceport, because he saw other craft landed on the
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: ground disc shaped craft stepping out of the craft. The
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: craft he was in promptly disappeared. Anatole says that this
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: area was composed of some unknown material, so the plants
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: and trees definitely looked foreign to him, not of Earth.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: The sky was silver gray bright, but he did not
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: see any sun, and the etes walked him over to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: a large screen about ten by fifteen feet, and this
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: screen showed an image of a dark, complectioned man who
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: seemed to study Anatoly for a few moments. The ets
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: then guided Anatole back to the original craft, which had reappeared,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and he was given, he says, a forty minute long
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: ride back to Earth. Now, towards the end of the experience,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: one of the ets told him, well, now erased the
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: memory of everything we had talked about. And the man
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: walked to what looked to anatolely like sort of a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: control panel, pressing buttons which caused pulses to jump about
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: on this computer like screen, and they seemed to be
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: having difficulty. Anatoly asked him what was the problem, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: they told him that they were having trouble locating which
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: part of his brain had been affected by the conversation.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: And finally they just turned to him and instructed him
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to not let anyone know that he was able to
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: remember this experience, And, as Anatole says, the next instant,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I suddenly realized I was standing almost in the same
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: place where I had been before meeting the aliens. The
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: sun was in the same position at the same angle,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: and the clouds seemed the same. It was as though
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: only seconds had passed and everything had happened in a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: profound sleep. So he had an hour's long encounter, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: they took him back to that same moment in time.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: He went home and told his wife, who advised him
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: not to talk to anyone about this or he would
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: end up in a madhouse or worse, jail. But the
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: next day Anatole was still very impressed by his encounter,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: so he talked about it at work, and, as Anatole says,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: during a break in the smoke room, I began to
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: talk about the incident. The end of my story was
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: accompanied by the loud laughter of those who had been
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: listening to me, so this persuaded him to keep silent.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: But as he says, I'm pretty sure it actually happened
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to me. He did notice a few strange after effects
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: immediately following the encounter. After he left this craft, he
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: realized that his clothes were fresher and cleaner than they
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: had been before. He also tried to write down his
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: account and found himself physically unable to do it, and
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: could only relate the experience verbally to researchers, which he
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: did not long after the encounter occurred. Now, researchers were
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: very impressed by his case and his honesty. They traveled
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: back to the location and investigated the landing site. They
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: didn't find anything unusual. They also brought in a couple
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: of psychics who were separately able to pinpoint the exact
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: location of the encounter without being told where it was.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: They questioned anatolely in depth, and at one point subjected
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: him to hypnotic regression in the hopes of obtaining new details.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: But Anatole told the same exact story under hypnosis. Now,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: those who knew Anatoly considered him very honest and sincere
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: he had no prior knowledge of or interest in the
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: UFO subject. Anatoly in fact agreed to take a lie
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: detector test, which he passed, so investigators were ultimately utterly
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: convinced that he was telling the truth. And as Nikita Shni,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: the primary investigator, writes, I would like to stress that
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: all the facts related in this case, incredible as they are,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: are facts. All the events described actually took place and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: are not products of the contact his imagination. It has
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: been proved quite convincingly by the examination of the witness
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: himself as well as the Landing side of the UFO.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Our finding was that the case was neither hulx nor
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: hallucination like that case, because it was very thoroughly investigated.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: The witness is quite credible. He had no need to
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: use hypnosis. It was fully consciously recalled, and just an
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: amazing case in so many different ways, regarding what he
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: was told by the ets, asking them to help solve
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: our problems, and then explaining that no, we can't do this.
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: This is a theme we see in quite a few
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: onboard encounters. So yeah, super interesting stuff and an amazing case.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Now let's move to the next one. This one is
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: quite well known I think in the country of its origin, Brazil.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Huge thanks to Chico for referring this case to me.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: I found it super fascinating because, Wow, this one was
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: very well authenticated, very well researched, has an enormous amount
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: of evidence to it, including actual photographs, so it's almost
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: undeniable that something really profound happened to this gentleman. It's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: occurred on May sixteenth, nineteen seventy nine in Bependi, Brazil.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: And again this is an onboard experience where a gentleman
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: had long conversations with the ETS and was shown many things,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and I think it's an important case. This case comes
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: from doctor liber Rojara, Franco Rodriguez, Maria Jose Pereira and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: several others investigated it. It was published in the Brazilian
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: UFO publication SBEDV and in several other publications. It became
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: quite well known. It took place in a rural area
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: near be Pendi. This is in Minus Jeris, Brazil, and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: the witness's name is Arlindo Gabriel Daus Santos. He was
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: a young farmer with very little education. It was around
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: ten thirty am on May sixteenth, nineteen seventy nine, Arlindo
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: was hunting in a wooded area with his two friends,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: Jose da Silva and Olivera Prudente. They decided to split
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: up and each one hunting in different directions, So, now alone,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Arlindo saw what he thought at first was a lightning flash.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: This was strange because it was a clear sky, and
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: was shortly later that he came upon a clearing in
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the woods and was shocked to see a strange kind
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: of glowing, rectangular shaped object only about four feet tall,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: coming in for a landing about five hundred and fifty
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: feet away. Now, in the past, he and his father
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: had seen some unusual lights, this was four years earlier
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: while horseback riding, but those were off in the distance
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: and this was close. So he had some idea about UFOs.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: And Orlando describes this object. He said, quote was white
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and shaped like a post, and two and a half
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: palms wide and one and a half meters tall. On
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: top of it was a sphere that blinked red and white.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I took my camera out and took a photo of it.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Suddenly it vanished before my eyes. Now curious, he walked
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: over to the area to investigate, and this is when
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: he saw a second object descending, and as Arlando says,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: this one was shaped like a top and had like
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: a little fan turning around on top of it, shaped
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: like a spear on the bottom, and that stuck in
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: the ground. A moment later, I heard a sound like shot,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: and it disappeared in a cloud of smoke. I took
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: a picture of the smoke, so he stepped closer, and
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: this is when a third object came down, and as
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Arlindo says, it looked like a wine barrel, red and
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: white and about one and a half meters tall. It
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: had a propeller spinning slowly on top, larger than the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: one on the other object. It came down wobbling from
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: side to side and then put down a leg like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a stand for a TV set. But this was really
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: freaking them out. And then a fourth object appeared. This
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: was much larger and obviously a craft. As Arlindo says,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: this one was white like snow and shaped like a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: large egg lying on its side. There was a little
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: window on each side of a little wing that looked
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: like fins on a fish. When it was one and
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: a half meters from the ground, it stood still, hovering
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and four legs came down to the ground. So amazed
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: ar Lindo lay down on the ground and attempted to
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: photograph it. But at this moment the object sent a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: beam of light at him, which irritated his eyes. He
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: became very much terrified, dropped his camera, jumped up and
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: attempted to run away. As Arlando says, I was out
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of my mind with fear. I was very afraid. I
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: couldn't see, and I ran off, but I didn't get
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: more than two or three steps away when something like
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a magnet caught me. I couldn't move. I got very
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: nervous and scared. I couldn't feel myself. Then I saw
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: two men at the egg shaped object, wearing black helmets
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: and coveralls. There were visors in their helmets. I wasn't
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: feeling very well and I couldn't make out any features
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: behind the visors. On their backs. They had small drum
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: shaped packs with tubes that were attached to the helmets.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: They were wearing gloves, and the coveralls covered their entire bodies.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: The two men came to me and each took me
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: by the arm, and I got even more troubled and frightened.
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: So at this point ar Lindo screamed out to them,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: for the love of God, let me go now. These
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: two little figures responded in his native Portuguese quote, in
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the name of God, we are all brothers. We don't
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: harm anybody. We only want some more information. Now, I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: said the voices seemed to come from a box like
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: device on the being's backs, and that these voices were
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: low and deep. They led him towards the craft. As
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: he got close to it, he could feel an intense
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: cold surrounding this craft. He saw another figure wearing a helmet,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: standing next to a ladder leading into the craft. This
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: figure was looking back and forth, almost like a guard.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: This figure asked him if he had seen the quote
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Zurka Orlindo did not understand this word and asked them
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: what it was, and they said it was a communications
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: device which they had apparently lost. He asked them where
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: they had come from, and they told him we come
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: from the other side of the mountain. According to other translations,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: they said we come from the other side of the coast.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: So they asked him at this point if he was educated,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and he said no, he'd never been to school. Wasn't
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: very smart. One of the short men took his hand,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: which he said felt very smooth and cool, and led
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: him inside the craft. And as Arlindo says, as soon
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: as I got inside, everything changed. I felt I was
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: in another world. It had a nasty smell, like dust
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: on the roads. I saw two other men sitting in armchairs,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: chairs like a dentist, and they appeared to be typing.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: They stood up, and others came and they started talking
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: to each other. I couldn't understand what they were saying,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: so in some of the descriptions, he said, it was
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: actually a musty smell. There was equipment there that he
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: couldn't understand what it looked like. He said. Their speech
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: really sounded kind of like a lot of hissing. Inside.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: The air was very cool, very pleasant, he said. Was
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: a large circular room about twenty five feet wide, with
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: a dome shaped ceiling. A bright light was coming from
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the center of this dome. On the walls. He saw
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: a few what looked to him like colored lights or buttons.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: And these men inside this craft, he said, looked human
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: but had large slanted eyes, very thin noses, large mouths
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that went from one side of their face to the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: other and were also wearing dark, height fitting uniforms, so
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: the machinery inside he couldn't describe it looked totally foreign
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: to him, another weird detail, as he said, once he
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: stepped inside, he seemed to forget everything about his own
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: life now. Moments later, a female figure came into the room,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: which he described as somewhat heavy set, good looking, with
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: tan skin and long, fine white hair. She was wearing
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: a white uniform and gloves, but did not have a
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: helmet on. He did see that she was wearing strange earpieces.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: She and one of the men he put his hand
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: on Arlindo's shoulder. They led Arlindo through a short corridor
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: into another room, which was not much larger than a bathroom.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: One of them pressed what looked like a button on
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the wall, and at this point a large marble looking
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: object shaped like a large refrigerator rose up. Per Orlando,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: is nine feet wide four feet tall, and had two
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: screens on it. This point, the female figure took a
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: wand like device and pointed it at this object, at
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: which point Orlando saw colorful images on these screens, and,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: as Arlando says, the upper half of the box lit up,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: and a round screen like a TV appeared. She pointed
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the wand at it and said, this is the Sun,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: this is the moon, and this is where we are.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: She pressed a button and the light went off, and
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: then another circle on the right side of the box
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: lit up in the same manner. A similar picture appeared,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and she said, here is the Earth, the Sun and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: the Moon, and the Earth turned and turned in the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: picture until it vanished. Then a little spot appeared on
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the top left and grew larger and larger. This was
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: their country, she said, this is where we are. We
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: come from there and return in only a few hours.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: So Orlando had a little bit of a hard time
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: understanding what he was looking at. Was very confusing to him.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: It wasn't sure if these images he was being shown
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: were from Earth or another planet. The lady proceeded to
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: talk about the rotation of Earth and how it affected
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: their ability to travel. Then they led him back to
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: the first room. At this point, the male humanoid took
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: off his helmet, revealing a pretty much human looking face,
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: but different for Orlando. His ears were pressed to the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: side of his head, had no real forehead, his nose
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: was more sunken than a normal person's a very roundhead,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and without moving his mouth, he told Arlindo, we are
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: made of the same substance, the same blood, and we
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: live of the same kind of world as you do.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: According to another translation, we do the same kind of
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: work that you do. Now, as Arlindo says, and I quote,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I was very, very scared, and I saw the door open,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: and I tried to escape. The man said, you can
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: go down now, but protect your eyes. So I went
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: down the ladder and ran across the field. When I
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: got off, I couldn't move freely. I felt restricted. Then
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: when I got to the end of the field, they
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: freed me. When I turned around, the two objects had vanished.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I was feeling ill and nauseated and dizzy. I called
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: for my friends and they found me and gave me
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: water to drink. Now, the duration of this encounter, Orlando estimates,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: was about two hours. Afterwards, he was ex extremely thirsty,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: his eyes were swollen. He was suffering from headaches after
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the incident, which persisted for a few days, but he
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: did also notice an apparent healing. Since he was a
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: young child, he suffered a sort of dermatitis condition with
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: itchy white spots on his skin, but after this encounter
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: these spots were gone and never returned. Later, after he recovered,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: they went back to look for his bag. He had
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a bag of food and other items, but they were
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: unable to find it. Now, on May twenty eighth, he
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: and his brother Jiro returned to the spot and were
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: able to find four imprints on the ground where the
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: object had landed. You can see them here. Each of
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: these four imprints were filled with small holes, and later
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: they did find Arlindo's bag in an area which they
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: had already thoroughly searched, so it looks like it was
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: put back there, even more so because it now had
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: strain change hieroglyph like symbols on it which weren't there before.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: They looked like they were drawn on and according to
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: the reports on this they were somewhat similar to ancient
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Hebrew characters or Phoenician writing Egyptian Aramaic. There were many
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: attempts to decipher this writing and they mostly ended up failing.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: The one researcher, Ricardo Ferrera Arantes, says that he was
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: able to translate it and that it is a message
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: of upcoming calamity on Earth and quote, the developed races
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: of space have the authority to lay the foundations of
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: universal fraternity, So I don't know about that, but certainly interesting.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: This case was very thoroughly researched by numerous researchers over
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a period of months. One of the researchers, doctor Rodriguez, writes, quote,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: we checked thoroughly into his character and background, and we
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: found him to be totally honest and sincere, and not
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: the kind of man who would make up a story
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: like this. We talk to many people who knew our Lindo,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and everybody speaks highly of them. We are convinced our
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Lindo's case is true and that what he says happened
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: really did happen. Thank you again, Chico for referring that
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: case to me. I found it super fascinating. The witness
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: is so obviously sincere. It's really the kind of case
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: that's hard to deny, and it's the kind of case
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: that I think we can learn a lot from. It's
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: so interesting how many different types of humanoids they there
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: are out there, and his descriptions are in some ways unique.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: But it's clear to me that we all do share
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: a common heritage, that each he's pretty much told this
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: to the witness, which is another detail that I find
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: particularly fascinating because that does turn up quite a bit.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Just an amazing case in so many different ways. Now,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: let's move to another case which I'm almost certain you
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: haven't heard of. It has not received any real publicity.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I call this one we are just measuring you. This
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: one occurred on May twenty eight, nineteen ninety one, in Burien, Washington,
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and it's a pretty standard case in some ways, but
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: has some really important details to it. It doesn't stand
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: alone too. There's other cases that have occurred in this
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: same area which is not very large, but I think
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: you'll find it really compelling. The witness in this case
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is Susan. That's a pseudonym. She is elected to be anonymous,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and she had a few UFO sightings in her life,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: but it was an encounter on May twenty eight, nineteen
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: ninety one that changed everything. It started at ten pm
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: when her pet German shepherd dogs started growling and staring
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: outside at the deck, and then ran down the stairs
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: to the basement, making low, defensive warning growls, and then
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: ran back up to the sliding door by the outside
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: deck and started growling again now. Susan's home was located
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: on the edge of a forested park in Bury in Washington.
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: It goes down to Puget Sound. You can see the
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: exact area here. She had recently seen a little family
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: of raccoons behind her house, and she assumed that they
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: were the cause of her dog's concern, So if she
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: didn't think much of it, she checked outside but didn't
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: see anything. Now, strangely, she doesn't remember going to sleep
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: that night. The next thing she remembers is waking up
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: in her bed to see a very intense bright light
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: outside her bedroom window. And I'll just quote Susan directly,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: and she says, I remember thinking, why are the police
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: out there? And what are they after? That? They are
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: shining their spotlights on my window, But I didn't hear
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: sirens or radio or dog's barking or people talking. I
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: peeked outside, and the next thing I know, I was
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: lying down on a bed or table. I saw five
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: beings with very big, dark eyes that reminded me of
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: insect eyes, with a big head and slender bodies, no mouth,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: a tiny nosed protrusion, and they communicated through my mind.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: One of them touched my forehead and the other two
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: were checking my stomach while the other two observed. The
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: one by my head seemed to talk to me from
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: my mind. He told me they are just measuring me.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: A bluish beam above a bright light source scanned my
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: body similar to a hospital scan. The next thing Susan knew,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: it was dawn and she was waking up back in bed.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: For the first half of the day, she felt somewhat
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: light headed, and it was twenty eight years after the
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: encounter that she decided to report it to MUFAN. Now,
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: at that time, Durian had a population of about twenty
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: eight thousand people to only ten square miles back in
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight. Actually, another encounter occurred in Viuring, also
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: involving humanoids, was on October ten, around four a m.
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: As a different couple drove down First Avenue South, just
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: south of cl You can see it here was still
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: dark at that hour. Now, the woman was five months pregnant,
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: and I'll just quote her directly because she describes this
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: very interesting encounter with humanoids. As she says, I noticed
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: a very bright light to the right of me behind
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a grove of trees. As we drove down the road
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: towards the bar s packing plant. I turned and I
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: saw a large cylinder shaped object hovering on the edge
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: of a cliff behind a grove of trees, with a
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: very bright light emitting from a brightly lit window within
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: the object. It made absolutely no noise. It appeared to
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: be stationary, hovering on the edge of the hillside, motionless
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: and the size of a football field. I became frightened,
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: and as I stared at the object, I saw entities
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: with white egg shaped heads, large black eyes, and a
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: small slit for a mouth. They were dressed in black uniforms.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: They communicated telepathically to me somehow, saying, don't be afraid,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: we are just watching. At that point I turned to
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: my husband and screamed, look. Look. When we turned in
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: the direction of the craft, it had silently and completely vanished.
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: Since that experience, I continue to feel at times that
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: I am being watched and observed. On occasion, it was
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: an eerie feeling. I have told no one about this experience,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: as it sounds so incredible. How could one believe me?
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: Aw amazing? Is that another on board experience which follows
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the main pattern of people being taken on board and
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: physically examined, totally consciously recalled no need for regressive hypnosis here,
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't a particularly traumatic encounter. Their ET's just
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: told her we're measuring you. So that is super interesting
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: to me. I know that it's very scary for a
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: lot of people to have these experiences, but if you
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: look at these cases very closely, you'll see that does
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: not look like the ets are intentionally trying to harm
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: or hurt or scare people. No evidence that they're trying
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: to take over. It's quite obvious to me that they're
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: very concerned about our planet. This is what they've said
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: over and over again. So yeah, these cases I think
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: are so important in that regard because they really do
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: answer the questions about who are these guys, why are
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: they here, where do they come from, what are they
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: doing on this planet. We have enough cases now, a
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: big enough database that I think we've got really good
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: answers to all of these questions. And here's another case.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: There's always another case, and I call this one I
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: couldn't look over. This occurred on September second, twenty twenty one,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: very recent in Masilla, Alaska. Really interesting and again very
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: poignant case. For some reason, this one just really kind
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: of hit me in the heart center. This gentleman had
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: such an amazing encounter, and he describes it in such
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: amazing detail, and I think you'll find it a really
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: interesting case. It was shortly after midnight on September second,
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. And Andrew this is a pseudonym, was
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: outside his home in Wasilla, Washington, and he was splitting
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: wood for his fireplace. He usually performed this task late
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: at night due to his job, and he was transporting
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: a wheelbarrow full of cutwood to his front porch and
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: stacking it there. This is when he looked up and
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: saw a quote striking glowing object. He said it was
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: bright gold hovering in the northeastern section of the sky,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: and the second he saw it, he became utterly transfixed.
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: As Andrew says, I found myself unable to look away.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel a pressure of any sort on my body.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't look away. Quite literally, words fail me,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: so please accept my best attempt. It felt like I
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: wasn't allowed to disengage. It reminded me of the feeling
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: I got once when I was bluff charged by a
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: bear a feeling that something was happening that was going
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: to happen, regarding whether or not I wanted it to.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Looking away was not something my body would have allowed
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: due to some kind of instinctual process. Though he's staring
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: at this thing, the object quickly became brighter, and Andrew
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: could now see that it looked almost diamond shaped, was
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: emitting tentacles, a thick neon like lightning, and as Andrew says,
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: was absolutely stunning, was somehow beautiful. And this is where
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I started to come to terms with the fact that
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: something very strange was happening. It hovered in Physician for
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: a moment and then traveled at a very slow speed
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: in my direction, stopping to hover over my neighbor's property.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I was at this point that Andrew began to hear
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: a sound like quote fuzzy whispers in his head. He
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: said it was kind of like a deep static, almost subaudible,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: but it got slowly louder and clearer and evolved, as
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: Andrew says, quote into a whisper of what I can
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: only describe as information. And I'll just quote Andrew directly,
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: as he says, I was receiving a message that without
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: a clear language, told me to stay calm, while simultaneously
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: bombarding me with so much mathematical information that I was
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: almost physically sick and nauseous from. It was like having
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a math stroke, layers of information that shifted to a
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: low sound that made me very nauseous, and I was
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: suddenly watching my body watch the object as a second
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: me was drawn into it. The brightness of the vessel
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: gave way as I got very close about ten to
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: fifteen feet, I was seeing an enormous golden skinned craft
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: with zero lines or rivets. The sound completely seized when
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I entered this area. I was pulled into an opening
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: in the lower half of the diamond, so Andrew could
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: now see that this craft had a dome on top.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: He was pulled inside of it, and he immediately got
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: sick and puked. He was then confronted by three short
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: gray ET's with dark eyes. He said they were mumbling
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: to each other with what he perceived as excitement. He
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: started to feel a strange pressure on his back. This
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: caused him to lose consciousness briefly. He woke up what
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: fell like moments later to find himself lying on a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: sort of table as a wave of light swept over him,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: scanning his body and as Andrew says, I remember being
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: physically examined by two of the gray beings, but not harshly.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: They almost constantly mumbled during the encounter. I could barely
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: hear it, but what I could hear was indecipherable. It
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: sounded like a Middle Eastern dialect being mumbled through a tube.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: The next thing, Andrew knew he was back on the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: ground where he first saw this craft. He estimates he
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: was inside for about fifteen minutes. This craft was still
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: in the sky, but it now started to travel a
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: quote very strange, seemingly random pattern for maybe fifteen seconds
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  Speaker 1: towards anchorage and made absolutely no noise. He was still
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  Speaker 1: hearing this strange, staticky whispering sound, but as soon as
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  Speaker 1: the craft moved out of view, that also disappeared. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: immediately sat down on the ground, and he says he
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  Speaker 1: cried for several minutes, but then he composed himself. His wife,
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  Speaker 1: who is disabled, was in the bedroom. She didn't see anything.
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  Speaker 1: He went inside, and he didn't tell her for some
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  Speaker 1: time because he knew that if he just blurted out
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  Speaker 1: what happened, it would sound like madness, and as Andrew says,
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  Speaker 1: I cried several times that morning and the next day,
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  Speaker 1: and I have an emotional reaction every time I try
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  Speaker 1: to remember or recount it. I eventually told her his wife,
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  Speaker 1: a portion of it, but AM still terrified to tell
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  Speaker 1: her or anyone else about it. I had decided to
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  Speaker 1: just keep it to myself. Two months later, he did
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  Speaker 1: finally report the encounter to both Newfork and Moufon, the
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  Speaker 1: head of Newfork, encouraged him to contact the media, but
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  Speaker 1: Andrew declined because, as he says, I most certainly did
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  Speaker 1: not care to be the subject of a local news
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  Speaker 1: story about UFOs in such a small place with Scilla
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  Speaker 1: is not a large town. It has about ten thousand people,
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  Speaker 1: but as it turns out, it does have quite a
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  Speaker 1: few sightings. In fact, another report given to Moufon involves
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  Speaker 1: a Wassilla man who says that he and at least
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  Speaker 1: one other witness saw what look like a star in
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  Speaker 1: the sky. I suddenly it zoomed down, hovered five feet
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  Speaker 1: off the ground, and began to pulse in brightness, And,
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  Speaker 1: as the witness says, after we watched it for maybe
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  Speaker 1: two minutes, it slowly went down the road. We decided
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  Speaker 1: to go after it. That's when we saw a yellow
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  Speaker 1: saucer shaped thing appear over the power lines near where
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  Speaker 1: I live. The yellow craft literally appeared and disappeared right
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  Speaker 1: before my eyes. It then appeared maybe one hundred feet away,
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  Speaker 1: and then white orbs began falling out from underneath it.
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  Speaker 1: I watched as the orbs would surround my neighbor's house.
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  Speaker 1: They would turn off all the lights in and around
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  Speaker 1: the house. Then they would light everything up. It looked
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  Speaker 1: like the lights were searching the house, and then they
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  Speaker 1: would move in. We watched that for maybe fifteen minutes.
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  Speaker 1: So that's an interesting case. And Andrew is certainly not
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  Speaker 1: the only Wacilla resident who believes that they have been
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  Speaker 1: taken on board a craft and examined by etssider. This
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  Speaker 1: next case completely separate, which occurred to the lady by
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  Speaker 1: the name of Jennifer, again a pseudonym. She was nine
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  Speaker 1: years old in November of nineteen eighty six. She had
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  Speaker 1: just been put to bed, but being a night owl,
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  Speaker 1: she remained awake and was watching the stars through her
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  Speaker 1: windows when she suddenly noticed in an unusually bright orange star,
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  Speaker 1: and after a few minutes it started to move, and
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  Speaker 1: she realized that, yeah, this was definitely not a star.
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  Speaker 1: As Jennifer says, as it got closer, it was giving
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  Speaker 1: off a lot of heat like the sun. The next
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  Speaker 1: thing I remember, I was on a metal table, not
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  Speaker 1: strapped down, but I couldn't move a bit, as if
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  Speaker 1: I was being restrained. They surrounded the table. I was screaming,
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, my voice wasn't coming out
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  Speaker 1: of my mouth, but it was inside my head and
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  Speaker 1: so loud. So Jennifer stopped screaming as these beings began
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  Speaker 1: to talk to her telepathically. She did not describe what
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  Speaker 1: they looked like, but as Jennifer says, they proceeded to
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  Speaker 1: poke and prod me through my belly button and between
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  Speaker 1: my toes. They seemed to be trying to soothe me
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  Speaker 1: by stroking my forehead like my mother did when I
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  Speaker 1: didn't feel good. The next thing she knew, she was
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  Speaker 1: back in bed, soaking wet, as if she had jumped
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  Speaker 1: into a pool. She immediately ran and told her mother.
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  Speaker 1: Her mother believed her and was a little freaked out.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, it was an event that they would often
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  Speaker 1: talk about but could never fully explain. Years later, Jennifer
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  Speaker 1: was watching TV and saw a segment about a huge
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  Speaker 1: craft that was seen over Alaska in November nineteen eighty six.
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  Speaker 1: This was around the exact time of her own encounter,
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  Speaker 1: and as Jennifer says, I was frozen in shock. I
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  Speaker 1: looked at my husband and said, that's it. That's the
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  Speaker 1: UFO that took me. So that case doesn't have a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of detail to it, the case involving Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: but certainly fascinating the way he describes it, can see
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  Speaker 1: it affected him so profoundly. Immediately after this encounter he
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  Speaker 1: breaks down crying. He's very scared to tell anybody. This
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  Speaker 1: is a pattern we see quite often. It's very difficult
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  Speaker 1: sometimes to process these experiences. But he did remember it fully, consciously,
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  Speaker 1: truly amazing. Also very interesting is that there were other
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  Speaker 1: people seeing humanoids in this town, which again isn't that big.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go another amazing case of somebody taken
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  Speaker 1: on board. And it's difficult to say how common these
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  Speaker 1: cases are, but I've said this before. J Ellen Heinek
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  Speaker 1: reportedly said that one in forty people have been on
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  Speaker 1: board a UFO. That's a lot, and it was in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety one that the Roper Organization did a poll
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  Speaker 1: and found that one in fifty people showed the markers
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  Speaker 1: of being a UFO contact D. So the point is,
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  Speaker 1: this is happening two millions of people. We now have
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  Speaker 1: a database of some tens of thousands of onboard encounters,
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  Speaker 1: but you can bet it's a lot more than that.
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  Speaker 1: So I hope someday all humanity accepts the fact that
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  Speaker 1: these experiences are happening. I think it's really important we
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  Speaker 1: take them seriously. We need to move past the skepticism
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  Speaker 1: and ridiculing and gaslighting of UFO witnesses and give them
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  Speaker 1: a safe space to share their encounters. It's one of
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  Speaker 1: the reasons I do this research because I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of you out there, particularly you who are watching this,
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  Speaker 1: have probably had encounters of your own. So I'm presenting
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  Speaker 1: this data and as objectively as the facts only manner
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  Speaker 1: as I can, because there's so much misinformation and disinformation
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: and confusion and fear surrounding the subject. It's really unwarranted.
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  Speaker 1: It's time that this subject goes mainstream and that we
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  Speaker 1: all accept the fact that we are not alone in
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  Speaker 1: this universe. And all you have to do is go
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  Speaker 1: outside and look at the stars, and it's pretty obvious.
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  Speaker 1: There's no way we could be the only ones living
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  Speaker 1: on a planet in this vast, practically infinite as far
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  Speaker 1: as we know, universe. So that's it. Seven cases coming
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  Speaker 1: from all over the world. I hope you've enjoyed this episode,
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  Speaker 1: perhaps learned something. I truly appreciate it. It's because of you, guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing this research and making these episodes, So thank you,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Until next time, keep asking those
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  Speaker 1: hard questions, keep searching for the truth. Most important of all,
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  Speaker 1: keep having fun in this amazing infinite universe. I will
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  Speaker 1: see you next time. Bye for now.