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Grifters, Vanderpump Rules Ending and North West · Juicy Scoop with Heather McDonald

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  Speaker 1: Christmas shopping has already started in our house. My daughter
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  Speaker 1: Gifts they'll cherish at prices you'll love.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald has got the Juicy Scoop. When you're on
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  Speaker 1: She talks Hollywood tales for real life.
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  Speaker 2: Heather MacDonald. Juicy Scoop. Hello and welcome to Juicy Scoop. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you guys, I'm very excited for you to hear this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Besides starting off with all the hot topics of what's
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  Speaker 2: going on in the news and pop culture, then I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get into what I really think of Vanderpump Rules,
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  Speaker 2: the cast members, where I think they're going to go,
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  Speaker 2: what predictions came true, what did not, the future of
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  Speaker 2: the series, and my advice, breakdowns of friendships, grifters in Hollywood,
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  Speaker 2: my own personal experience. and some of the grifters, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: that have weaseled their way onto Vanderpump Rules. That is
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  Speaker 2: what today's show entails. I'm going to get into it
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  Speaker 2: right now, but I just want to remind you that
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  Speaker 2: this Saturday, I will be at the Pechanga Resort with
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  Speaker 2: your favorite funny man, Chris Frangiola, for an entire Juicy
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  Speaker 2: Scoop hilarious experience. That is at the Pechanga Resort in Temecula.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is at heathermcdahl.net. Now, one of my stories I'm
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  Speaker 2: covering today is about Pete Davidson, who also performed this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: And according to Page Six and people that came to
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  Speaker 2: his show, people were heckling him so much during the
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  Speaker 2: show that he didn't even finish his entire show. He
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  Speaker 2: walked out towards the end. But it was so annoying.
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  Speaker 2: And what these people that gave accounts about it said is,
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  Speaker 2: Their opinion is that because on TikTok right now, we
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  Speaker 2: are seeing so much comedy that is amazing crowd work,
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  Speaker 2: that now people are coming thinking that's going to be
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  Speaker 2: the whole show, and they're inserting themselves too much into
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  Speaker 2: the stand-ups act. when they're not asking for it. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there's certain people like Matt Rife that's really, I assume,
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  Speaker 2: what it appears, that's 90% of his act and he's
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  Speaker 2: really great at it. And if you're going to go
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  Speaker 2: see him, you're going to go see that. But I
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  Speaker 2: have juicy, funny stories that I've been dying to tell
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  Speaker 2: you in person. And I don't want to be interrupted
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  Speaker 2: over and over. And so just feel the room. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not worried about my juicy scoopers because you are always
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  Speaker 2: been fabulous delights. But I did think that was kind
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  Speaker 2: of an interesting story based on what we're seeing in
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  Speaker 2: comedy and comedy is having a boom. Thank goodness. And
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  Speaker 2: there are lots of different comics that you can choose
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  Speaker 2: from and you might have never been to a comedy club,
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  Speaker 2: but you're going now because you see these comics do
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  Speaker 2: such great crowd work. So just to get a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a decorum, a little bit of etiquette when
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  Speaker 2: you go to stand-up shows, please don't disturb the people
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  Speaker 2: around you. Please listen to the comic and only really
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  Speaker 2: talk unless you've been asked a question or if they're like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: who are you there with or whatever, and you want
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  Speaker 2: to participate. That's the rules. Very interesting when I was
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  Speaker 2: in Denver, and I forgot to talk about this. But
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  Speaker 2: this is something that I believe Dave Chappelle started and
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  Speaker 2: then Comedy Works adapted it. And it was– I forgot
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  Speaker 2: about it when I went there. But it's so amazing.
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  Speaker 2: When you go to a show at the Comedy Works,
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  Speaker 2: they take your phone and they put it in this
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  Speaker 2: satchel that you cannot unlock. And then they give it
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  Speaker 2: back to you. So you can put it on vibrate.
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  Speaker 2: So if you have a sitter or something, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to make sure you don't miss a call from
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  Speaker 2: your child, you could feel it vibrate. And then you
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  Speaker 2: would get out of the comedy club and go to
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  Speaker 2: the lobby, have them unlock your phone, and then you
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  Speaker 2: would talk to the person or whatever the case might be.
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  Speaker 2: So it's not like they're holding your phone hostage. But
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  Speaker 2: what I didn't realize is right when I was finishing
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  Speaker 2: my first meet and greet, People were coming in for
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  Speaker 2: the second show and I saw these two guys that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, were there and I go, oh, before I go,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to get a picture? Because I see
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  Speaker 2: that you're going to come to the meet and greet after.
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  Speaker 2: And they go, we can't, we don't have access to
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  Speaker 2: our phone. And I was like, oh. And then I
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  Speaker 2: started to go, oh my God, what are they going
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  Speaker 2: to do for the next 25 minutes before, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the show starts? They're going to have to talk to
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  Speaker 2: each other, clear their mind, get in the mood to
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  Speaker 2: hear comedy. And I think that's one reason why people
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  Speaker 2: love performing at certain clubs like this that have these
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  Speaker 2: kind of rules, because not only are you not, you know,
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  Speaker 2: taking video or anything, but oftentimes people start scrolling through
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  Speaker 2: their phones and they're disturbing other people, but they're also
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  Speaker 2: not totally paying attention to the show because they're used
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  Speaker 2: to sitting on their couch, watching Netflix and also scrolling
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  Speaker 2: out their phone the same time. So I really encourage
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  Speaker 2: you to go to live comedy shows and put your
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  Speaker 2: phone away, whether they take it away or not, put
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  Speaker 2: it away, put it in your purse, put it on
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  Speaker 2: silence and really focus and take that time for yourself
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  Speaker 2: to not be distracted. You paid all this money, you
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  Speaker 2: got a sitter, you came like And you'll have such
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  Speaker 2: a better experience for everybody. And that's just a little information.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: For the future of comedy. Okay. Northwest. So Northwest appeared
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  Speaker 2: and she sang, which was in my head the whole weekend, um,
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  Speaker 2: from the Lion King at the Hollywood Bowl. And she
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  Speaker 2: came out and she's wearing like yellow sweats and a
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  Speaker 2: yellow sweat jacket with like a little furry hoodie and slippers.
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  Speaker 2: I thought, did like her dad, Kanye West, create this outfit,
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  Speaker 2: came out now? No, she designed her own outfits. Real
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  Speaker 2: costume designers did everybody else that you saw singing and
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  Speaker 2: dancing around her. And to say the least, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she is not a, child singing prodigy theater star with
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  Speaker 2: a ton of experience. She came out, she was happy,
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  Speaker 2: she was confident, but the internet has gone ablaze and
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  Speaker 2: especially stage parents of real like Broadway prodigy kids that
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  Speaker 2: can sing and dance, they are not happy. And they're
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  Speaker 2: sharing their stories about how their own children were up
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  Speaker 2: for this solo and went back three or four times
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  Speaker 2: And really came down to like three people and they
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  Speaker 2: thought they were going to get it. And then it
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  Speaker 2: went to Northwest. Now, this is what I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: say about this. It's not Northwest's fault and it's not
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  Speaker 2: Kim Kardashian's fault. The people that decided to put her
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  Speaker 2: in had every right to do that along with a
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  Speaker 2: special guest, Jennifer Hudson. But what they should have done
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  Speaker 2: is right from the start said, hey, for this big performance,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to bring in Northwest because they're the most
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  Speaker 2: famous family in the world. And it'll be a fun
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  Speaker 2: little exciting thing to do. So that part's taken. They
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  Speaker 2: should have never auditioned anybody for that part. That's it,
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  Speaker 2: it's taken. Don't ask how it is. Don't ask why
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  Speaker 2: we're doing it. We're doing it so that people know
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  Speaker 2: about this show and we have more eyes on it
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  Speaker 2: than we ever could imagine we're gonna have. That is
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  Speaker 2: why people go, why does it matter how many Instagram
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  Speaker 2: and TikTok followers a model has? And listen, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: 1992 where you can be discovered picking Korn or whatever
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  Speaker 2: because you're a perfect looking model and someone's going to
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  Speaker 2: put you in their outfit. They're not. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: do whatever it takes to get as many eyes on
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  Speaker 2: their jeans. And if that means picking Bella Hadid, who's
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  Speaker 2: dating Bradley Cooper, who's in the press and has millions
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  Speaker 2: and millions of followers, that way when she gets that ad,
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  Speaker 2: that jeans ad, she will post it on her page
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  Speaker 2: and you will see it even though you're not following
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  Speaker 2: the jeans. You will see, oh, she's wearing... these genes.
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  Speaker 2: So the same thing goes for putting someone like this
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  Speaker 2: with this following through her parents and everything on stage.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't blame her or Kim or anyone for
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  Speaker 2: not turning it down. I do worry and I do
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  Speaker 2: hope that she does not see all the comments that
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  Speaker 2: were made about her performance because I think that would
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  Speaker 2: be really hurtful. And if you know that the comments
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  Speaker 2: are hurting me at my age and the Vanderpump, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people who are in their mid-30s, Can you imagine what
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  Speaker 2: it would do to a 10 or 11 year old
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  Speaker 2: that was like, her mom was probably like, guess what
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  Speaker 2: you get to do tonight? What? Oh, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go to the Hollywood Bowl. You're going to have two rehearsals.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to wear this comfy outfit. How fun will
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  Speaker 2: that be? And I'll take photos of you. And I mean,
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  Speaker 2: to her at her level, it could be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: it's either here at my school. So I guess I'll
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  Speaker 2: go to the Hollywood Bowl and do it there. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even think she understands the scope of it
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  Speaker 2: or what. at 10 or 12 or whatever she is,
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  Speaker 2: that the disappointment that a kid that really, really strives
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  Speaker 2: to do this might feel seeing her. But I think
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  Speaker 2: it's a state, it's the state that we're in of
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  Speaker 2: Hollywood and what moves and what happens and Nepo babies
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  Speaker 2: and talent and not talent and carving your own way
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  Speaker 2: and realizing that this is the, you know, the playing
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  Speaker 2: field is not going to be even. And that's life. Like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what to say, but I hope it's
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  Speaker 2: not her fault that she did this, you know? And
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  Speaker 2: so I was thinking, I hope that, you know, being
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  Speaker 2: that her TikTok is with her mother, that they don't
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  Speaker 2: let her see anything negative about this experience, that she
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  Speaker 2: just sees the great photos and doesn't read like comments
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  Speaker 2: or anything. And everyone just says that was so fun, Northie,
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  Speaker 2: and that's that. But here's the issue. Now, Kim's nephew,
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  Speaker 2: Scott Disick, and Courtney's son, Mason, has joined Instagram, and
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  Speaker 2: Kim told people to follow him. Now, you can't stop
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  Speaker 2: the older kid that's not yours from joining Instagram, but
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  Speaker 2: I just hope that in him being on it and
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  Speaker 2: seeing anything about his cousin, like it just doesn't get
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  Speaker 2: back to it because nobody needs to hear mean things
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  Speaker 2: when you're young like that. P. Diddy, now they are
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  Speaker 2: saying that they're going to do a grand, possibly doing
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  Speaker 2: a grand jury panel, meaning he could be up for
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  Speaker 2: criminal charges, not just all the personal lawsuits for sexual assault.
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  Speaker 2: And they're looking into that. Besides him being a Jekyll
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  Speaker 2: and Hyde, which we are not surprised about the evil
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  Speaker 2: behavior that now people are coming out, that they witness
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  Speaker 2: the anger, the craziness, the guns on the table during
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  Speaker 2: meetings and stuff. But the possibility of a grand jury
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  Speaker 2: changes a lot of things of where he could end up.
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  Speaker 2: So that's interesting. J-Lo, who dated P. Diddy. And again,
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  Speaker 2: I've said she does not need to speak on what happened,
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  Speaker 2: but you do wonder what the case is. I've heard
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  Speaker 2: different things that because she had her own career and
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  Speaker 2: her own talent, she was never a victim of any
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  Speaker 2: of his misbehavior or whatever. But then of course, she
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  Speaker 2: was with him that night when the shooting happened And
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  Speaker 2: that whole story when she was wearing– back when she
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  Speaker 2: was wearing the white bandana and the low jeans. But again,
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  Speaker 2: that was like 20 years ago. So she is doing
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  Speaker 2: this whole tour based on the This Is Me music,
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  Speaker 2: which I don't know that those songs from that are
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  Speaker 2: really catching on. And it's hard to sell tickets in
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  Speaker 2: big arenas and several shows have been canceled during the summer.
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  Speaker 2: According to New York Post, she was working on doing
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  Speaker 2: a $ 90 million deal with a major Vegas residency for
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  Speaker 2: residency at a major Vegas resort, meaning she would get
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  Speaker 2: $ 1 million a show to do 90 shows. They are
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  Speaker 2: now saying that that is maybe not going to happen
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  Speaker 2: because of the ticket sales not doing that great. Her
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  Speaker 2: last deal was around 2017, 2018. And she was making $ 500, 000
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  Speaker 2: a show. So she was making $ 500, 000 a show, and
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  Speaker 2: I think there were like 30 shows or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And so this next one was going to up that,
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  Speaker 2: double it, and be longer and be for that much more.
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  Speaker 2: And you've got to look at the numbers and be like,
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  Speaker 2: are we going to make $ 1 million? Every time that
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  Speaker 2: she performs, because we're paying her a million, you know, like,
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  Speaker 2: are we going to make it? And people staying at
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  Speaker 2: the hotel and buying the tickets and all of it.
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  Speaker 2: So that seems to be like it's on shaky ground.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Affleck was seen looking joyful as ever and going
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  Speaker 2: to his daughter Violet's graduation, and Jen did not attend
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  Speaker 2: with him. So everything we're seeing from a deaf girl
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  Speaker 2: that interprets what they're saying in a car is kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting. She's like a lip reader saying that like, oh,
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: they– OK, but what will she think? Like talking about
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  Speaker 2: their kids and they're struggling. Jennifer Garner wants them to
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  Speaker 2: stay together allegedly. They're looking at other property. Oh, but
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  Speaker 2: it's just investment property. They're just busy. But then they'll
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  Speaker 2: go out and like hold hands and he'll slam the
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  Speaker 2: door like too quickly as her ankle barely gets inside.
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  Speaker 2: It's just– And then you talk about that discussion. This
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  Speaker 2: is why you don't recycle old boyfriends. There's a reason
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  Speaker 2: why it didn't work out the first time. But it's
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  Speaker 2: such a lovely thought because you're like, oh, they made
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  Speaker 2: it back together. I mean, there are a lot of
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  Speaker 2: divorced couples that end up getting remarried and end up
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  Speaker 2: getting back together. And it's interesting because it's after the
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  Speaker 2: kids have moved out. And you're like, Maybe we do
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  Speaker 2: really love each other. Yeah, we always loved each other.
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  Speaker 2: It was just those awful roommates we had this whole time.
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  Speaker 2: And now that they're gone and we don't have anything
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  Speaker 2: to fight about with the kids, we actually can fall
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  Speaker 2: back in love. They never had kids together and they're
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  Speaker 2: breaking up the first time and they're having trouble this time.
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  Speaker 2: I think it has to do with all the eyes
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  Speaker 2: on them and him kind of being a sourpuss and
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  Speaker 2: her being happy and wanting to continue to do more
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  Speaker 2: and more stuff and be more and more in the
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  Speaker 2: limelight and use social media and take selfies of herself
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  Speaker 2: in front of her poster on Sunset about her movie
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  Speaker 2: called Atlas or whatever, which reminded me of Luann. Luann,
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  Speaker 2: I remember Luann got in a lot of trouble for
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  Speaker 2: going to her poster and taking a photo of herself
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  Speaker 2: in Miami. Oh, look at me. And I got so
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  Speaker 2: much hell just for going on a swim on a
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  Speaker 2: beach and stopping by my poster in Miami. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: who wouldn't want to do that? Money can't buy you class.
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  Speaker 2: You can't. There's nothing wrong with taking a photo in
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  Speaker 2: front of your billboard. If I ever had a billboard
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  Speaker 2: for a month, I would go and have a Chinese
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  Speaker 2: chicken salad in front of it for 30 days. Why not?
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  Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter. That gets you press. She knew
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  Speaker 2: that it would. She's doing all she can to make
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  Speaker 2: all the stuff that she puts her toe into a success.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like she does something and then doesn't promote it.
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  Speaker 2: But I think he kind of wonders, when is it
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  Speaker 2: ever going to be enough? But now that it's like
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  Speaker 2: she's had a little bit of stink on her and
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  Speaker 2: people made kind of fun of the movie and the
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  Speaker 2: things that she said with the crazy, crazy girl, that
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  Speaker 2: girl in the Bronx and all that. She's just trying
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  Speaker 2: to like continue moving forward, which is what you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to do. She doesn't have to go away. She didn't
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  Speaker 2: do anything wrong, you know? So who knows with them?
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  Speaker 2: But she also has a liquor brand called Delola. She's
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  Speaker 2: got a lingerie thing. She has workout clothes. She has
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  Speaker 2: so many products. She has some of her own products.
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  Speaker 2: She has some collab stuff. But this, so it is now...
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted, I'm giving her press. It's a really
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  Speaker 2: good commercial that she put on her Instagram. She's wearing
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  Speaker 2: a great green outfit and it is a light margarita. Really?
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  Speaker 2: You're going to do that to Skinny Girl? You're going
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  Speaker 2: to do that to Bethany Franco, you know? I was
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  Speaker 2: the original Skinny Girl. No one made more money than
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  Speaker 2: I on any reality show ever. I was the first
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  Speaker 2: one to think of making a lower calorie margarita. And
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  Speaker 2: I did it. And I did it myself. And I marketed.
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  Speaker 2: And I did it. And you know what? Nobody else
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  Speaker 2: did it. Nobody else could do it. So good luck.
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  Speaker 2: JLo's copying me. I can't do Bethany as well as
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  Speaker 2: some people. But how do you feel about that, Bethany?
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  Speaker 2: And does Skinny Girl Margarita still exist? Because I don't
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  Speaker 2: see it anywhere. I always felt it wasn't strong enough
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  Speaker 2: on flavor or alcohol. So it kind of makes you
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  Speaker 2: want to try this a little bit. But anyway.
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  Speaker 4: I'm Darman, and this is What Happens Next. Each week
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  Speaker 4: on the show, I sit down with extraordinary people who
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: have faced tremendous setbacks and yet somehow have found a
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: way to turn them into their greatest strengths.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: Life is one long lesson of chaos.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: I'm heading to the Emmys and I have police complaints
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: filed against me.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: When your free will was about to be taken from you,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: what would you do if it was given back?
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: Where did that need come from where you thought that
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: you had to succeed in order to feel loved?
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: He said, I have a work dad.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: I need a home dad. What happens next?
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: When I came in, he started crying.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: Everybody in life encounters hardships. What defines them is not
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: those hard moments that they go through. It's about what
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: happens next.
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  Speaker 2: I decided to risk it all. I realized how valuable
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: every day was. You're worth the work.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: Listen, Dara, I'm not going to pull punches.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: You can use your voice even if it's shaped.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: The stories are different, but the impact is the same.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: Only one question matters. What happens next?
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: We talked about on the other episode, what happened to
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Bachelorette Trista Stutter? because her husband was doing these kind
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: of cryptic posts and people were like, did you kill her? Like,
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: is this a gone girl situation? She's been married to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: her husband for like 20 years. They have two teenage kids.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: She has responded by saying, I am away. I'm taking
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: some time out for me. And by him posting those,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: it's like a digital diary. And it was like his
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: love note to me. And we didn't think about the
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: fact that I mean, I guess she's saying this. I
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: don't think they thought about the fact that other people
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: would interpret it anything other than that. I don't know
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: why you would do it. Like if you have a
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: plan to go to rehab or let me just get
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: away or we're having marital troubles or I just need
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: like a mental health break from like being a mom
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: and I'm a public figure, don't you think you would
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: have sat down with your spouse and been like, okay,
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: I'm taking, going to Promises for a month. I'm not,
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's hardly like she's in the limelight. It's
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: not like people like, you know who I haven't heard from?
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Trista Stutter. Is that her name? Trista. Yeah. Trista Stutter.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard from. In a while. What is she?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, she was on the show like 30 years,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: 20 years ago. Like no one's wondering where she is,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: what she's doing. So I'm just saying if you need
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: to take a break and you want to take a
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: break from social media, just take the break. Don't make
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: an announcement you're taking the break. Just take the break. People,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: very few people are going to do, unless you're like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the biggest star ever, is going to do an article
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: about how you didn't post or plan it out. If
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: you're taking a break from the summer of social media
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: because you just don't want to look at it, maybe
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: plan something with someone where they can post something like
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: once a week of just like beautiful summer sunset or
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: here's a throwback Thursday. Just do something like that. It's fine,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: but we don't need to think that your husband killed you.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad that you're doing okay. And I guess
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: she wasn't on a reality show. She wasn't doing Masked Singer.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: She wasn't doing Special Forces. And if I found out
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: that she was, then I'm going to be more pissed
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: at her because that means she lied. Britney Spears said
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: that all her jewelry was gone. And the video was
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: very odd. And it was very odd because the jewelry
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: box looked like something I had when I was eight
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: years old. It was very inexpensive, it appeared, and was
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: just like felt. And she's like, look at all the drawers.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: They're empty. Someone came in and legit stole everything. But
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: then there were still a couple old pieces left. And
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I think that she just came across this
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: jewelry box and forgot that she'd never put anything in it.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I hope that's the case. No way. Police report was made.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Then she was with her brother in Vegas at a
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: spa doing a video, very excited about going to spa,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: which I'm happy because that was the one of the
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: things she complained about. She didn't get to drive a car,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: go to coffee or go to a spa in Vegas.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: So she's having a good time at a spa in Vegas.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: She's kind of doing different accents and saying that the
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: spa looks like a spaceship and people are concerned. She's
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: with her brother. She's with family and she's going to
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a spa. For me, I'm happy with that. And hopefully
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: she wasn't robbed. And this was an old jewelry box
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: that she got when she was eight and she forgot
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: that she never filled it. This was super interesting. This
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: single mom went viral because she was sobbing, baking her
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: own birthday cake. She goes, I have three kids and
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I'm a single mom, but I have to bake my
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: own cake or my own cupcakes so that my kids
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: can feel like they can celebrate with me. So I'm
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: doing this for my kids, even though I'm all alone,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: being a single mom. And she got a lot of
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: love for that video. A lot of people were like,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: you're a single mom, it's okay. Your kids will remember it.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: You do have to do these things to make them
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: feel like they're celebrating your birthday. And like, who's the
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: piece of shit that, you know, where's the dad and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. Well, the dad sees it
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: and he does his own video and New York Post
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: put it all together. And he's like, I am her ex-husband.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: And he's like, and I have full custody of the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: kids because she has a criminal background. And here is
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: my court papers that I have her. I have the
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: kids full time that she owes me over $ 20, 000 in
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: child support that she can see them, but it has
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: to be arranged and all this stuff. So She's done
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: this in the past with social media to get followers
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: and sympathy, whatever. But it's amazing. It's amazing that someone
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: just does that. Just kind of wondering, oh, I wonder
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: if anyone will see this or whatever. I'm going to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: make this cake and I'm just going to decide to
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: say this. Again, a grifter move. Why are you doing that?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Why did you have to do a sympathy video? And
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: draw attention to the fact now we know that you
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: unfortunately don't have custody that your husband does, which is okay.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's okay if you don't have custody of your kids,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: but don't make up a lie of like that you
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: have no support from your ex-husband when in fact he's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: the one watching the children. Very interesting. Lizzo. is featured
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: in a South Park episode. I believe she is losing weight.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: She looks much thinner and she's like, I can't believe
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I'm part of a South Park episode. And the episode,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the joke was, you know, if you can't get your
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: hands on Ozempic, just take Lizzo and you'll feel better
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: about yourself. And I did not know what the joke
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: was in South Park. I thought it was that we
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: knew that she was taking Ozempic too. And I was like, well,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I predicted that two years ago. And I just posted that.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: I go, not to be annoying because I know sometimes
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: people are like you with your predictions, not people who listen.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: But I predicted that she'd take Ozempic and get thin
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: like two years ago. Now, I don't know if she's
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: taking Ozempic right now. I really don't. But I said that.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I said, I think what's going to happen because how
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: can you not when it's available and it's working for
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: all of your friends? How can you not just take
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: it and hopefully feel less hungry and have the results
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: of just eating less? If you eat less, you're going
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: to lose weight. So I saw photos of her recently
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: and she has definitely lost weight. And if that's making
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: her happy, great. And I think I did start talking
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: about a Zen pick about two years ago. I started
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about it when I found out that that's
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: what people were taking and that Kim– most likely took
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: it to get into that Marilyn Monroe dress and lost
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: 14 pounds in a week or whatever it was. And
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's when I first mentioned it. And so
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know when I said this about Lizzo, but
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: I'm right, people. It's happening. Just get over it. This
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: was such a weird story. This girl, Hayden Hopkins, I
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: guess she's a professional dancer. Other ones said that she
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: was just an influencer. So over the weekend, they said
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: that she is allegedly expecting a baby with the Raiders owner,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Mark Davis, who's over 70. But then today it says
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: professional dancer Hayden Hopkins is reportedly expecting her first child
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: with baseball player Joey Gallo. The revelation comes after Hopkins
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: shut down the rumor that she was expecting a child
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: with the Raiders owner, Mark Davis. So do you imagine like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Who is your baby with? The professional baseball player who's
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: cute and more age appropriate or the 70-year-old boyfriend who
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: owns the Raiders? Or is he not your boyfriend or what? But,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, if this is not a sugar baby gold
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: digger story come to life at a triangle, I mean,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: kind of fun. I hope she's okay. Speaking of having babies, Courtney,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: who had a baby with Travis Barker post being 40,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: she has revealed that she went through several IVFs with
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: him before having the child. And I think it's really
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: good that she's coming forward with that because when we
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: saw her hold up the sign at his concert, I'm pregnant,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: at that time, I believe we did not know that
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: she was going through any fertility treatments and that she
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: just was one of those few women that can get
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: naturally pregnant at 42 with no medical intervention. It is
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: very rare. Yes, it can happen. It is very rare though.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: And I think it's good that she is being honest
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: with us about it because your fertility just goes down
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: with age, just a fact. And then she also said
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that her baby has never slept in a crib and
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: I guess sleeps with her. Again, that's I like that
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: honesty and nothing should be judged by it. Recently, Paris
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Hilton got a lot of criticism because she was enjoying
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: the groundwater in Hawaii with her two kids. And she
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: was in the pool and she posted a video of
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: her in the pool with the little boy. And she
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: had the life jacket on, snapped all wrong. And so,
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: of course, the parent police came out and I mean,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the kid is doing fine. But yeah, again, if you're
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: going to post stuff as a parent, make sure that
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you have your car seat strapped in right. It's facing
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: the right direction for the kid's age and weight. A
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: life jacket, a swimming jacket. All those things. Otherwise, you
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: almost wonder if she does like doing this stuff now
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: to get people to talk about it. Because she knows
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: if he does one thing wrong, it's going to be
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: written up by page six. So I wonder if that's
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: the case. Oh, and I found out that she and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Nicole Richie are not doing, maybe they're still doing a
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: show together, but I guess traders had put out a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: rumor that they were doing traders together. And that's not true.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: They're not doing traders together. I don't even know. Who knows?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Just put your life jacket on right. And then Jonathan Chabon,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: this is from page six, the food god was spotted
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: at the Grand Prix after a party at Lily's Globs
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: in Monaco. And I just thought it was, the comments
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: were so funny. They're like, did Jonathan, like, oh, that's
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: what I woke up this morning wondering about. Oh, what's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the food god up to? Is he in Monaco? And
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: they're like, he probably sent the photo out, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: for people to see or send it to them. And well,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: here I am. And I posted this because I was
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: asked to collab of a photo with On The Edge
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Media that had, a– yes, when I left Tamron Hall.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: I went and did Tamron Hall yesterday. I flew all
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: the way to New York and it was a quick
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: turnaround and I had a great time and that show
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: is going to air June 6th. And when I came
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: out of the studio in New York, there was TMZ
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: and a couple of people and a paparazzi person who
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: took photos of me. as I was walking to the
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: car and I look pretty great. And so, yeah, I'm
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: going to talk about it. And if I am on
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: a billboard on sunset, I will go in front of
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: it and take a photo of it just like JLo
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and Luann. Gypsy Rose Blanchard says that she is a
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: trauma survivor, not a celebrity. Good for her. I'm not
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: annoyed at all by her getting her nose done for
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: free or taking any opportunity she has. to make money
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: because she is a celebrity. She is known. There's been
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: movies made about her. People are fascinated by her. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: think it'll kind of wave her off a little, but
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I'm not sad that she broke up with that boyfriend
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that looked like her mother or that husband. I'm glad
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: that she's with her dad and her stepmom and her family.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And I hope she's getting stronger. And I hope that, um,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: But again, if she gets offered opportunities, whether it's to
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: sing in the Lion King or go on Traders or
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: go on Special Forces or do something like that, she
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: would be crazy not to take them because they may
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: lead to other things or they may not be offered
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: a year from now. So sometimes you just have to
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: strike while the iron is hot and make your money.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You're already getting the negatives of being famous. You might
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: as well just get some of the positives. So don't
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: be a hater. Um, this Ohio billionaire is taking a
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: new sub to the Titanic. We literally just talked about
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: this the other day with my family. I'm like, could
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: you imagine doing that again? Like what? This guy is
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: going to now try it again. I'm like, good, go.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Like to see what? What are we going to see? Like,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: you know, I went on a trip in the, where
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: were we? I think we were in the Virgin Islands.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And we were so excited. They're like, you're going to
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: snorkel and you're going to be able to see like
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the shipwreck. And I'm like, oh, yeah, that is totally great.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: And then we realized they just threw an old ship
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: in like near the shore so that they could have
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: a tourist thing. And I was like, I mean, I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: glad that no one like died as a song. But
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: at the same time, I was like, well, that kind
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: of now I know like this isn't even real, but
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: it is kind of fun to do.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: But I don't.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: But just go snorkel, dude. Just go snorkel. in the
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Virgin Islands at a fake one. You don't need to
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: go down to the actual Titanic in your submarine and die.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, oh my God. New Jersey is happening and
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: it was pretty boring this past episode. It's coming down
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: to the friendship breaks of not talking to anybody just
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: seems to be not that interesting to watch. We had
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: a dog party. that went on for like 15 minutes
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: where each dog was introduced and did a fashion show.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: And then we had another 15 minute or 20 minute baseball.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: And between the dogs and the baseball, I'm like, something
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: good better happened. I want to know, break the fourth wall.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: I want to see what we're hearing about with these
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: bloggers and, you know, doing the storylines for these people
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: and putting out things on social media. Just mention it all,
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: expose it all. Because having these like kind of boring
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: family moments are like not doing it for me. But
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I think I have some juicy scoop coming about this
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: that will spark our interest into this show more than
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: it's been these last couple episodes and see where we're
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: going with it. Okay, now I know you're like, Heather,
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: just get into the Vanderpump Rules. Well, here it is. So,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: We finished the third reunion episode, three-part reunion of Vanderpump Rules.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: And I just have so many thoughts about it. And,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: you know, my scrolling is all these people that are
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: cutting clips of it and giving their opinion. And I
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: know I am friendly with many of the Vanderpump cast.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I go to events of theirs that are filmed and
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: that are not filmed. I have had most of them
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: on my show a couple times. And I don't want
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: people to ever think that I am not going to
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: cover it or give my real opinion because I have
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: personal friendships and care for many of the cast members.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: The reason I talked so much about Vanderpump Rules this
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: past year is not because I know them personally. It's
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: because it was such a fascinating story of Scandival and sad,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: fascinating story of betrayal, deception, friendship. You know, the fact
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: that it was Ariana's friend, Raquel, they became friends, who
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: then was having a secret seven-month affair with her live-in
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: boyfriend of nine years. And the way everyone reacted around it,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the people, everybody, that is why it was a big
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: topic of discussion. Because either you know someone like that,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: or it happened to you, or you had a level
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: of friendship, betrayal, or deception that maybe didn't involve infidelity
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: and romance, but some other level of you were like, whoa,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: were you really my friend or not? And I think
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: that happened last night on part three. Because we got
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: to see that they decided to keep the last bit
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: of the final episode. They said, we're not going to
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: give it to you. They always give them the screeners
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: before they do the reunion. And they said, we're not
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: giving it all to you. Um, now Ariana reveals that
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: she did not watch this season and it seemed like
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Sheena and a couple of the cast members might've been
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: annoyed by that because they're like, well, how can you
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: speak on it if you didn't watch the whole thing?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And she's just like, I didn't because I lived it
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: and it was painful and I just didn't want to
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: watch it. I know that Teresa Giudice of New Jersey
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: often says she, she says she didn't watch any of
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: it until a few years ago. She was never watching
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: it back for whatever reasons. I thought it was kind
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: of like required homework for the cast members to come
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: with guns a-blazing or fix things or be aware that
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: so everyone's on the same page. But again, if they're
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: not going to watch it, they're not going to watch it.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Ariana did say that she saw many clips, as we
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: all did, online when people would take little clips and
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: discuss it. But again, clips are not everything. But then again,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: they filmed a lot of things that we never saw either. So...
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I think it would have been good if she watched it,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: but I also understand why she didn't. Okay. So she
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: has said in an interview, Ariana, that she was on
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Katie's podcast and I heard a clip of it. And
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: she said, yeah, we did not like that we didn't
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: see the whole thing. And they show the ending, which is...
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: She says, I'm not going to give this redemption arc
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: scene to Tom Sandoval. I believe that this was exactly
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: what he wanted and the producers wanted for him to
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: be crying and apologizing. And then he could come back
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: next season and I would be left to have to
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: accept it. And she said it reminded me a lot
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: of what happened 10 years prior in 2014 when Tom
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: was bawling, crying to Kristen Doty, who was his girlfriend
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: of many years in the early seasons, about another cheating
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: scandal that he had or some girl in Miami or
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: something that happened. I'm not really confused, but he was
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: crying about apologizing and having this conclusion to their final
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: breakup scene. She was like, I'm not going to let
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: them redo that with me because he could have told
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: me he was sore all this time and he never
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: did when cameras weren't there. And to me, that's living
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: real life. Cameras are not. The argument on the other
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: side that came from Lala is we have to live
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: our authentic lives. We have to do this on camera.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: And I feel like I've done it. And I don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: think you've done it. Well, now the argument of Ariana is, yes,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: I have. I showed you my living situation because I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: had to live with Tom because I wasn't going to
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: walk away from a $ 2. 5 million house that I purchased
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: with him legally. I... did all the scenes. I did
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: have conversations with him, with other people in the room.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I went to the stuff. My new boyfriend did not
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: want to be on camera, did not want to do FaceTimes,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: but I convinced him to, to please the producers, to
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: please essentially my castmates that we were participating as much
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: as possible. But my boyfriend was not being paid. And
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: He did not ask to be on the show. So
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: if he wants to participate a little bit less, even
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: though he's on a trip, he has a right to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: do that. And I thought that's interesting too. Maybe these
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: shows need to learn that just because someone has a
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: boyfriend or girlfriend, maybe pay them for being on the show.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: They're not stupid. These shows, they know that their image
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: is going to be living on forever. And who's to
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: say that they're going to stay with this person forever?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I think I don't know if Brock gets a paycheck
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: or not, Sheena's husband, but he certainly should. And I
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: know that comes with negotiation. But as producers, I would
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: think like, hey, if we want someone to appear, we
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: should pay them. So we get to this moment. between
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Lala and Ariana and Lala is. basically saying that I've
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: had conversations with Katie where she was annoyed with you
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: on the phone and now she's acting like she never was.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: And Katie said, well, if I did a while back,
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I don't feel that now. We're in a really good place.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people felt that's not really right
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: to reveal personal conversations that you had on the phone
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: or in private when they were not filmed. That's really
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: not your place to do it. So Lala got some
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: criticism for that. Also, She was like to Sheena, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: they're very close. She said to Sheena, well, you said
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: that Tom Sandoval was a better friend than Ariana was
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: because Ariana didn't go to all your events and Tom did.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Tell her when that was. And Sheena was like, I
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: don't know specifically just that Tom was a good friend
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: of mine. And so I start reading all the comments
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: because they're criticizing each other. You're living in the comment section.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: You're not being honest now because you're afraid that the
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: fans who are predominantly very supportive of Ariana, probably 90%,
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: that then if you are not totally supportive of Ariana
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: in every way, then you will lose popularity. And Lala
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: felt like I'm the only one. being honest about my opinion,
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: and it's true. And Lala has lost, at this point,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: in my opinion, reading everything, she has lost some popularity
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: with the way that she has behaved this season in
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: which we have seen. And Ariana, I really feel this
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: whole season has just come off, I've said it before,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: with grace and intelligence and articulates herself extremely well. And
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: probably because she went to therapy, probably because she's learning
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: what truly boundaries are. Also, I think she was really smart.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And it sounds like she is a predictor like I am.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And she had predicted that this would be her fate
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: this season. She has said on the Katie podcast that
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: she feared that it would be, let's get Ariana. Let's
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: have a redemption arc for Tom Sandoval. And- And then
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: also that Tom would exclude her in things, do a triangle,
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: and then she would be left on the outs because
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: she's not being forgiving of Tom. And she reminded us
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: that this stuff that we're seeing now was filmed three,
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: four months after she found out that her boyfriend of
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: nine years was sleeping with her best friend for seven months.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: That's a pretty short period of time to completely get
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: over it and be fine. Also, I think having a boyfriend,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: this guy Dan, does not mean that you are over
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: the trauma that your partner of nine years has caused
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you with betrayal, which is friendship and your life partner, everything.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: That trauma you may never get over. That trauma might
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: come up for the next 20 years. You could be
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: triggered by it. She might see a movie 10 years
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: from now that'll remind her of those emotions that she had.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Doesn't mean she doesn't love her new boyfriend. Doesn't mean
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that she's still in love with her old. It just
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean she has to be over it. Meeting a
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: guy and having a fun romance with someone after your
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: boyfriend screws you over does not mean that you are
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: over the trauma of what it was and that it
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: was so public. I also think The fact that she's
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: successful post-cheating does not mean that, again, that she's not hurting,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: that she's not traumatized, that she's not feeling left out
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: or what. But I definitely think she had these fears
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: or had these thoughts about where people stood, but she
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: was not aware until she was sitting in that chair
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: at the reunion that I really don't have any friends.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, if I was Ariana and I was in
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: her position and I heard what was being said about
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: the perception of like, you know, but besides Katie, I
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: would definitely feel like I don't have friends. And when
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: she said, so Lala says, she hears what Lala says
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: at the end, which she's like, She thinks she's Beyonce.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: I've never seen a person who's been cheated on, who's
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: been treated, you know, it suddenly becomes God. And she
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: just says, I don't think I'm Beyonce. I don't think
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: I'm God. I understand the frustrations that you might've had
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: filming this season, but I don't understand the insults from
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: a friend. And I don't think she deserves those insults.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think What happened is the show got
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: so big after Scandival, and then they went back to
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: film it. And there were all these weirdness and raw emotions.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: And I think the producers were getting into people like
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Lala and maybe Sheena's ear about the only way the
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: show is going to continue is if we all stay
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: on it together. And the only way we're going to
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: stay on it together is there has to be some
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: healing that between Ariana and Tom Sandoval. And you guys
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: have to accept Tom Sandoval and you've got to convince
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Ariana to do it as well, because without these uncomfortable scenes,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: we don't have a show. And I think that is
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: why Lala called Raquel and didn't answer the, she didn't
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: answer the voicemail. But in the early season, you see
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: that Lala calls her and is like, I want to
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: talk to you because maybe I was harsh or whatever. That's,
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: After the send it to Daryl and everything where it
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: seemed like all the girls really had Ariana's back and
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: now we're back filming and it's like, oh, well, maybe
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: there is another side to it. Maybe I could talk
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: to Raquel. Do I think that Lala would ever have
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: done that if we weren't if the cameras weren't there
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: and there weren't producers and people encouraging her to do it? No,
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: I don't. I think it's really weird because they're supposed
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: to live their real life, but then they're also employees.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: And without bringing it, the show doesn't come back, which
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: is what Lala was saying. I love doing this show.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: This show has given me lots of opportunities. It's given
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: us all opportunities. But then at the same time, Ariana's like,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: I am living my authentic time. life and truth. And
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to have that conversation with him. And
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: me getting up and leaving was way more interesting of
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: an ending than letting him do his fake crocodile tears,
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: which I think he is, he can turn on the tears,
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: whether they're real or not, he can turn them on.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: And it's pretty compelling whenever you see someone cry. So
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: I mean, the things that I'm reading is they think that,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: you know, Lala is being very hypocritical, being that She
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: was cheated on and told everybody that they could no
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: longer associate with her ex-fiance and baby daddy, Randall. They
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: couldn't play pickleball with them. They had to pick sides.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: The other part of it is I feel that she's like, wow,
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: when I was cheated on, I certainly didn't get this grace.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: I didn't get this kind of love from my castmates,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: from the world, from anybody. People felt I deserved it.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: And also she couldn't share it at the level that
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: she was Behind the scenes, it was a lot worse
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: than what we saw. And she couldn't share that because
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: he wasn't on the show. They were going through legal stuff.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Her daughter couldn't be shown. And so she did kind
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: of have to get over it and move on. And
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I really think it's unfortunate, though, that at the reunion,
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: this was still what she was trying to put out
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: there in explaining her situation and what she thought the
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: show should do or be. When I really just think,
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: you know, you have to be like, hey, this is
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: what happened. They were in my ear. I fucking freaked out.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: And I felt like she was not doing her part.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: And I was. And why is that fair? Now the
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: show might not go on. And Ariana sees it for
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: what it is. And she says, I'm sorry, but I
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: think leaving and not letting that conversation happen, if we're
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: talking about it, made for a better episode. Are you
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: happy now? Will that get you your next season? Will
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: that get you your next paycheck? And I mean, it
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: is what it is. If the show is boring, they
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: don't come back. And if the show doesn't come back, yes,
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: they're all going to still be famous for years to come.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: The fame does not go away. But that steady paycheck
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: or the opportunities that come from it might not be
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: as fruitful. And Ariana has created a whole nother career
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: of doing well on Broadway. But who's to say that
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: people are going to be, you know, feeling the hype
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: to see her succeed or go to her shows five
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: years from now. But I do think she's on a
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: great track because she has come across so well. She is,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: you know, a good singer, a good dancer. And now
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: we'll see how she does as hosting Love Island. So
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I do think it could lead to other things. They
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: all have, many of them have books, many of them
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: have podcasts and merch lines and other restaurants. Now the
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: sandwich shop, Katie and I are on a sandwich shop
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: opened up this weekend. I was invited to go to
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: the soft launch, but I had to go to Denver.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I was bummed. I missed it. You know, the reviews
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: were mixed. Some of the people, I thought it was
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: really wrong that they were complaining. Yeah, you're waiting outside.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: What did you think? It's a tiny sandwich shop. And
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: that was their first day. And people were waiting and
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: waiting and waiting. Yeah, it's the first day. It's not
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: like if your local Subway opened You know, this is
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: famous people opening up the sandwich shop that they've been
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: waiting for two years for. But from mostly what I saw,
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: the sandwiches are very good. They are at a normal
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: price for a boutique sandwich, she-she kind of cute shop
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: in that part of Los Angeles. The prices seem fair.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: And like, if you don't want to wait in line,
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: I would wait. I would go in like a few weeks,
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: go in a few weeks, maybe go right when they open.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: And get your sandwich then. Maybe don't have breakfast and
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: go at 11. I don't know. But if you want
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: to experience it. But they said they were nice. They
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: took photos. All of it. So where does the show
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: go from here? I don't know. They're on a real break. And,
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: you know, so we won't see Lala go through her pregnancy.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: She has spoken on her podcast saying that one of
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: the reasons she has not been participating on Instagram is
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: because she knows. didn't listen to her own advice. And
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: she started reading comments and going to pages or seeing
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: videos in which people were criticizing her as a mother.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: And that really, really upset her. And other people said, well,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that. Well, I'm sure it exists because
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: I've had criticism across the board and I've been criticized
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: as being a bad mother too. And let me tell you,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: it does hurt more than anything else someone else can say.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: talk about my looks, talk about my nose, talk about
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: any kind of questioning of like, do my kids love
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: me and am I a good or bad parent? It
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: really does affect you. Even though you're like, who's ever
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: writing this is basically Martha in Baby Reindeer. That's who
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: writes this horrible shit, some unwell, weird person. And you
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: want to just forget it, but it does affect you.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: And I could see why she is just like kind
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: of spent on it. She is a single mother sharing
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: custody with one child, being a single mother by a
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: choice in which she's pregnant. So I think that can
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: be really difficult having two homes and family that is
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: a part of her support system in more ways than one,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: but still. So, yeah. So, you know, people are saying, oh,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: you're using the motherhood for an excuse. It is what
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: it is. We all watch the season. We watch the reunion.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: If you don't like where people stand with each other, fine.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: I think the interesting part of it is what happens
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: to friendship when you work together, when Hollywood's involved. when
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: jealousy is involved, when opportunities are happening and you perceive
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: it as, well, this person took this opportunity and now
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: they're so busy they're ignoring me. When the person with
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: all the opportunities are like, just because I have opportunities,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: you guys can still invite me to lunch. Like I'm
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: not hearing from you either. So in normal worlds that
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: don't involve Hollywood or reality TV, relationships shift as people move,
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: whether it's they get married or they move to a different,
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: a nicer, bigger house, or I've seen it happen with
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: my own life. And, you know, it is hurtful. And
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: you look back and all of a sudden there's a
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Facebook memory and you're like, oh my God, those people
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: aren't really in my life anymore. Am I a huge
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: loser because of it? And it's like, no, life is changes.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: And people that you're friends with five years from now,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, just all these people that are so critical
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: of like people that are no longer friends with their friends.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: Are you friends with every single person that you were with,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: that you were hanging out with, having lunch with five
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: or 10 years ago? Are they currently who you're talking
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: to on the phone today? It changes. But there's this
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: memory through social media and TV that makes us then
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: analyze other people's friendships. So You know, are Lala and
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: Ariana meant to be friends forever? I don't know. Probably not.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: Do I think the show can come back and be
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: compelling and funny and exciting again? Yeah, I do. I
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: really do. I think maybe the time could be good.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: There's lots of questioning. Would Lala and Sheena visit the Valley,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: which is such a big hit? And the fans are saying,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: we want them. And some fans are saying, we don't
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: want them. The show is so good as it is.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: I think about the business side. These girls and men
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: on Vanderpump Rules make a lot of money. They've been
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: on it for 10 years. They make a lot of money.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: They're at the top of their game, just like the
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: top housewives. The people on the Valley are not making
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: a lot of money besides probably Jax and maybe Kristen.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: The newbies, they make what new people make on reality shows,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: which is not much until about year three or four.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: And so if they were to bring Lala and Sheena
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: over there, are they willing to pay that Vanderpump price
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to have them come on? Do they feel like they
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: would get more eyes on them? Or do they want
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: to wait? And maybe they come in like two years
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: and they come as just like a day player or what?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: And which would probably be a wiser thing so that
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: maybe they could get other jobs that and not be
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: tied down to the valley. It's very interesting to discuss.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And that's why I took so much time to discuss
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: it because I think it is about Hollywood contracts, reality TV, friendships, betrayal,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: all of it. And really feeling like, wow, I didn't,
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: I mean, I can't imagine when I've had issues with friendships,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: if I had to sit in a gown and and
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: then watch back what my friends were saying behind my back.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've had a few glimpses of it on
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: a much smaller level, and it's totally devastating. It's like, whoa,
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: you danced on my grave. I was going through a
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: really hard time, and here's black and white evidence of
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: you dancing on my grave, being very joyful that I
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: was struggling. And guess what? I'm not friends with those
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: people anymore. I can't imagine if I now had to
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: like go to baby showers and all these other things
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: and act like we care about each other. Some cameraman's
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: here and, you know, a guy's sweating in his cargo shorts,
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: you know, watching me talk about, I hope we can
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: work it out. I love watching these shows. That is
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: why they're entertaining. But you got to think about the
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: person that's actually living it and how hard it must be. Um,
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Speaking also of which I thought this was so interesting, Schwartz,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: who was dating this girl, Jo. And this is interesting,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: even if you don't watch the show, I'm going to
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: tell you. So Jo was Kristen Doty's friend. He used
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: to be on the Vanderpump Rules and is now on
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the Valley. That is how she met these people. And
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: then she all of a sudden needed a place to stay,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: needed to couch surf for a few days and called
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: up Tom Schwartz, who was fresh from divorcing Katie. And
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: they started sleeping together and then they had a friends
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: with benefit relationship. Then the cameras came around. She was
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: featured a lot. Then they had their, then he pulled
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: away and they basically, he basically said, let's just be friends.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: Now that all happened five months ago was when they
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: finished filming the regular show that we saw Joe in.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Since then, she has gone on social media and I've
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: had fun doing impressions of her because she's pretty quirky.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: And he has now completely cut her off and blocked her.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: And what has been made clear to me is that Joe,
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: by a better definition of a word, I don't know
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: that I could find one, is a grifter. And I
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: believe that grifters are people that are very comfortable lying
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: and they sometimes lie for no reason. They just lie
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: so that when the bigger lie comes, you're going to
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: believe it because it was all these weird lies. And
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: some of the weird lies that Tom Schwartz said that
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Joe said to him on Brittany Cartwright's podcast was– She
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: he said, you know, if you join me in filming,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: I just want you to know, like reality TV is hard.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: And she goes, oh, well, I hate social media. I
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: never want to be a part of social media. But
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: which is ironic now because she's doing lives every other
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: day and trying to build a following, which, again, not
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: a problem with building a following is. She said, because
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I babysat your producers kids, so I totally know what
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: the reality world is like. And he was like, okay,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: didn't think of any– why would someone make up such
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: a weird lie? According to Tom Schwartz, he talked to
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: that producer and said, oh, well, Joe babysat for your kids.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And he's like, what? Or she. I've never– that person's
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: never babysat for my kids. It was just like a
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: weird– it's like these weird lies that grifters sometimes put
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: out to put you at ease, to make you think
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: that they have a background or something or they're more
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: connected to you than they should be. And they like
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: put your guard down. And then when you start to
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: kind of question it, you're like, but they're such a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: nice person. Like, well, what does it matter that they
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: lied about that? That lie didn't hurt anybody. A lie
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: that doesn't hurt anyone. So I shouldn't worry. So then
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: the other lie that was told was she had put
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: out there, and Brittany said this, that when Kristen Doty's
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: dog died, that Brittany and Jax called her to say
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: that Kristen's dog died. Brittany's like, that just never happened.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: I didn't even have her number. I didn't call Joe
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: to tell her that. And, I mean, it's really like
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: a Lifetime movie. It's really the kind of Dirty John,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: grifter Lifetime movie type of things. And I think I've
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: kind of been a– I think I'm a pretty good
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: expert on catching grifters now. I, unfortunately, have been a
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: victim of a handful of grifters in my life where
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: I think they're fun. I think they have a great personality.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: I bring them in. And I have those red flag
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: moments that I kind of ignore.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: I had a grifter in my life who told me, oh,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm best friends with Leonardo DiCaprio and we
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: could have stayed at his house in Cabo. And I
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: remember thinking, I was like, there's no way that he
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: offered you his house in Cabo. I've known you for
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: three years. There's never been anybody that I've met in
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: your life besides one girl who actually does your hair extensions.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: That's the only person in this one grifter's life that
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: I had ever met in three years of hanging out.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: So who are all these friends? Clint Eastwood's son and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: Leonardo DiCaprio. But they just say it with such confidence
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: that you believe it. And then when they tell you
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: that earrings that you borrowed that you thought were fake
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: were actually $ 3, 000 because they're so rich and they're Leonardo DiCaprio's,
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: you believe them. You believe them. You pay the $ 3, 000.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: You find out they're worth $ 42, 000. And the grifter goes on.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: The grifter goes on. Joe will go on. But I
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: think it's important for people, especially in L.A., because I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: do believe L.A. is the land of grifters, to when
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: you start to see this stuff, to go, whoa. You know,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: and I recently had something else with somebody that– Told
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: me a few weird things at dinner. And it was
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: a guy. And I just thought he was a young,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: you know, cool guy. And I had some questions about
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: it then. And then he let me know, oh, I'm
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: going to hook you up with this amazing, with these
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: amazing tickets to this thing. And I kept going, oh,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: where can I meet you for the tickets? Oh, do
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: you have the tickets? Do you have the tickets? And
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: he just blew me off. And I mean, I caught
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: him in, I'll explain it more on Patreon because it
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: is kind of a juicy grifter story. But then, I mean,
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: I knew at that point he was a grifter. And
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: I'm like, how far do I go? And I don't
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: know why I never asked for these tickets. I don't
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: know why you offered to have these tickets. But it
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: was like trying to see, it's like a game they play.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Can I suck this person into thinking I'm somebody and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not? The other thing that Tom Schwartz said is
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: that Joe then somehow befriended his sister. And the sister
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: came and stayed with her and then said, those were
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: the two worst days of my life and blocked her.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: So all of it's very weird. It all goes to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: prove that Katie was completely right when she was like,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: she's weird and something is up with her. And everyone's like,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: you're so mean, Katie. She's a pretty girl. She's a hairdresser.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Her name is not Joe. It's like Kayla or something.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: So when she came to California, she changed her name
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: and went by Joe. I think Joe might be a
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: real name, but no one was calling her Joe 10
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: years ago. Changing the name is a little suspect too
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: for some people, I guess. I do know people, actors
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: that have changed their name when they got here. I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: know someone that changed her last name to start with
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: A because this is a long time ago and she
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: thought she'd be at the top of the list for
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: SAG after when people look for actresses. She wanted an A,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: a name that started with an A and a second
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: name that started with an A. I don't know. So
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: some people change the name when they're in the business. Okay.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I think that's, I think that she wanted
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: to get on the show. I think she obviously did
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: like him. And then when it ended and he pulled
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: back because he saw all these red signs of not
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: telling the truth, making up lies for no reason, that
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: then he said on Britney's podcast, please don't use me
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: to appear like you're a victim to gain a following.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: You know, you're a hairdresser. You like to surf. If
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: you want to gain a following, show that content. Don't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: just keep answering questions saying that, you know, oh, he
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: also said that on her live she said that he
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: was still texting her even though he has a new girlfriend.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: He's like, not true. Like, that's why I blocked you.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: I wasn't still texting you. I'm not still in contact
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: with you. I did enjoy you. And he really was
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: quite articulate on the podcast too. He was like, you know,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you just, you do vibe with someone and it's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: really fun and you like them. And then something happens
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: and you're like, you know, I just don't feel right
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: about this. And it's those people that when you pull
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: back is when they realize, ooh, they may be onto me.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: And then they can get pretty vicious once you want
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: to scooch them out of your life. And so I
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: thought that was really interesting. Jax and Brittany are separated
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: more and more. It appears they most likely won't get
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: back together. He has said in many interviews, he said
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: to me, we're fine. Brittany and I are fine. Hopefully
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: they're co-parenting well, and that's what they mean by fine.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: But he was seen out with this girl all weekend.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: Paparazzi happened to catch them at lunch. And she picked
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: him up in a limo, which is so weird. I
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: don't even know they're making limos anymore. And they went
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: to lunch and she's very attractive. But she was already
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: in Daily Mail prior to this, an article for Mail
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: Online saying that her breast implants cost so much, were
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: so large that she has to pay for back pain
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: treatments because her breasts are so large. So she was
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: already in the press as like a social media person
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: that told a story of having two bigger boobs. I
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: don't know. She's very attractive. Then they celebrated Ariana's brother's
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: birthday this weekend and they're showing video and, you know,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: they know other people are there that are going to
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: pick up the video and the big fans will get
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: whatever is said. And she jokingly said as they were like,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: happy birthday, Jeremy. She's like, I'm pregnant. So everyone's like, oh,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: my God, she wants to get on the show. Well, listen,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: everybody that's gotten on the show has gotten in as
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: someone that they're having a relationship. In Ariana's case, Dan
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: doesn't really want to be on camera. But in everybody else's,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: whether it's James got on being Kristen's boyfriend, Raquel got
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: on being James' girlfriend, Allie got on being James' girlfriend,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think. Ariana got on kind of as
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: working– well, she kind of started working there and then
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: became Tom's– so maybe she doesn't count. But Britney got on.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Britney's whole thing with Jax was I didn't really watch
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: the show. Then other people said, no, she did watch
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: the show with her mom. And then she got on
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: the show. So that is how people get on the show.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: It's not a terrible thing. But, yeah, you know, Tom
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: Sandoval has a new girlfriend who's very pretty, who coincidentally
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: dated Leonardo DiCaprio, too. So, you know, this, look, if
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: you want, this is what Hollywood is about, okay? It
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: is about who you know, who you screw, and how
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: to get on TV sometimes. And this just all reveals it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Hopefully she's a nice person. Again, wishing Brittany and Jax
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: whatever their situation is good. The Valley had their finale
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: and it was like a cliffhanger. I don't know if
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: they're going to have a reunion. I'll talk more about
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: that on Patreon with the scoop I have there. So
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: as you guys know, go to heathermcdoll.net for my Patreon.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And I have lots of juicy scoop I want to
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: talk to you about. It's always the more personal stuff.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be answering some of your questions on
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: this Friday's Patreon. Some of the things you've been asking
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: for for a while. So make sure you go there.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: And then, of course, that's where you go to buy
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: my tickets. And I will see you at the Pechanga
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: in Temecula this Saturday with Chris Frangiola. And then off
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: to Tampa and Orlando. And that is in June. So
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: please see all my dates.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: The car is beautiful. Where did you end up going
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: for it? This exclusive place that Dad has connections with.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: They have more cars for more dealerships than like anywhere else.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: You have to put me in touch.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: What's it called?
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: It's Dune ADL.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: Where?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: Dunaidial.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: There's an accent on the E.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: Do you mean... Yes, I got it on Dundale Cars.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: Lift?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Please. Are you going past Kimmage? Oh, Kimmage.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: No.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: Dundale Cars. You couldn't possibly go anywhere else.