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The Ex-Cop Who Planned a Murder Like a Sniper Operation · FBI Files

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  Speaker 1: Ein Geldtransporter verschwand während eines Routinehalts. Mit fast einer Million
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  Speaker 1: Dollar geladen, galt er als unbezwingbar. Die Ermittler wussten nicht,
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  Speaker 1: ob der Fahrer involviert war oder überfallen wurde. FBI-Agenten und
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  Speaker 1: örtliche Detektive verdächtigten eine Gruppe ehemaliger Polizisten. Es brauchte Entschlossenheit
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  Speaker 1: und Hochtechnologie. Führung. The Arrowhead Mall, Glendale, Arizona. November 28, 1994.
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  Speaker 1: At 1.30 p.m. a transporter stopped in front of a
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  Speaker 1: shopping center. It was an unobtrusive fully armored Wells Fargo vehicle.
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  Speaker 1: Several companies use these special transporters because they are less
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  Speaker 1: conspicuous robbery targets. According to protocol, the driver remained in
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  Speaker 1: the car, while the boat picked up the money.
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  Speaker 2: Dead.
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  Speaker 1: The car was bulletproof, and the doors could not be
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  Speaker 1: opened violently from the outside. In the shop's office, the
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  Speaker 1: boat exchanged empty bags against the income of the weekend,
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  Speaker 1: let's call it that. It was the Monday after Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: The money collection followed to the busiest shopping weekend of
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  Speaker 1: the year. When the boat returned minutes later, the transporter
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  Speaker 1: and his driver were gone. He immediately called the police.
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  Speaker 1: The emergency call went to the police in Glendale, Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: They sent units to the crime scene and informed the FBI.
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  Speaker 1: The next FBI outside office is in Phoenix, 32 kilometers
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  Speaker 1: from the mall. Since the money in the car was insured,
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  Speaker 1: the FBI opened a case. Agents made their way to
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  Speaker 1: the crime scene. The detectives from Glendale first met at
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  Speaker 1: the shopping center. They began to question the boat. He
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  Speaker 1: said he had only been away for four minutes when
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  Speaker 1: he noticed the disappearance. The boat estimated the content to
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  Speaker 1: be something over a million dollars in bars, checks and coins.
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  Speaker 1: The detectives questioned other people in the mall. Nobody had
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  Speaker 1: seen or heard anything unusual. FBI agents from Phoenix had
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  Speaker 1: a quick look. Tracking technicians examined the area. Where the
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  Speaker 1: car was, they found a cigarette tip and a broken
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  Speaker 1: pair of glasses. The boat confirmed that his partner was
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  Speaker 1: a smoker. And said the glasses resembled the one McGush
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  Speaker 1: needed to drive. The technicians secured the objects and marked
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  Speaker 1: them as evidence. Detective Tom Clayton is the head investigator
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  Speaker 1: at the Glen Dale police station. I think our first
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  Speaker 1: thought when we saw that the transporter was gone, was
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  Speaker 1: that the driver ran away with the money and wanted
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  Speaker 1: to leave the city. We also considered that someone could
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  Speaker 1: have stolen it. Since the glasses were there, we weren't
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  Speaker 1: sure if it was staged or if something had really happened.
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  Speaker 1: We took every possible possibility into account. The head of
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  Speaker 1: the Special Agent Stephen Chenoweth was now standing in peace,
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  Speaker 1: conducting the FBI investigations. The investigators organized a search after
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  Speaker 1: the transporter and its driver, assuming that the person who
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  Speaker 1: had stolen the vehicle would soon exchange it for a
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  Speaker 1: flight car. They sent some officers to look for a
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  Speaker 1: ground to the shopping center. of the Arizona Department of
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  Speaker 1: Public Safety conducted a search from the air. The DPS
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  Speaker 1: officers started at the shopping center and then extended their
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  Speaker 1: search in concentric circles, while they looked for the transport
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  Speaker 1: in the surrounding neighborhoods. Whenever you discover a white transporter,
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  Speaker 1: you call on ground units to check it. Special Agent
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  Speaker 1: Chenoweth and the others knew that most of the overfights
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  Speaker 1: on gate transporters were insider jobs or armed detainees. Witnesses
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  Speaker 1: didn't hear any shots. Maybe the driver decided to exchange
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  Speaker 1: his hourly wage for a million dollars. And of course,
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  Speaker 1: Should the transporter be locked and the driver inside and
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  Speaker 1: thus inaccessible? The fact that the transporter was missing led
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  Speaker 1: us to at least think about the possibility that the
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  Speaker 1: guard was involved. The investigators looked for further information about
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  Speaker 1: the missing driver.
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  Speaker 2: We examined John McGosh.
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  Speaker 1: First we started to check his name on the computer
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  Speaker 1: to see if we could find any arrests or if
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  Speaker 1: he had a criminal history. We started with the Olds
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  Speaker 1: Fargo file, his personal file, looking for relatives, friends, his
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  Speaker 1: place of residence. After they had obtained a search warrant,
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  Speaker 1: the investigators went to his apartment. Your landlord let you in.
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  Speaker 1: The investigators looked for evidence that McGosch had planned the assault.
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  Speaker 1: The apartment seemed undisturbed. Nothing indicated that he had planned
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  Speaker 1: the attack or was willing to leave the city. Do
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  Speaker 1: you know who that is?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's Lisa Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: The investigators found out that McGosh had a daughter who
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  Speaker 1: lived near Phoenix. After they had identified her address through
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  Speaker 1: the DMV documents, they went to question her. McGosh's daughter
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  Speaker 1: described her father as honest and balanced. He took his
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  Speaker 1: job seriously. The police found others who said the same.
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  Speaker 1: McGosh had no criminal record. The investigators began to consider
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  Speaker 1: the 61-year-old grandfather no longer a suspect, but a victim.
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  Speaker 1: John McGosh had a good reputation. We spoke to family, friends,
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  Speaker 1: relatives and colleagues. He was a person who did not
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  Speaker 1: make any big demands in his life. He was not
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  Speaker 1: a big topic for him. Based on our background check,
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  Speaker 1: we did not believe that he was involved in the crime.
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  Speaker 1: As McGosch appeared to be a suspect, the investigators stood
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning again. They needed the help of.
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  Speaker 2: The public.
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  Speaker 1: If you do not have eyewitnesses, you try as much
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  Speaker 1: information as possible. In the hope of reaching someone who
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  Speaker 1: may have seen something, but has not heard anything yet.
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  Speaker 1: This afternoon, the FBI and the police of Glendale held
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  Speaker 1: a press conference. The bank robbery in front of the
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  Speaker 1: shopping center. They published photos and or the Wells Fargo
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  Speaker 1: truck was asked to contact the FBI.
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  Speaker 2: Investigations without support.
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  Speaker 1: A reward of $ 60, 000 was issued for every note that
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  Speaker 1: led to the recalculation of the money and the conviction
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  Speaker 1: of the perpetrator. Hours later, an emergency call from a
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  Speaker 1: church in Sun City, Arizona, directly outside Glendale, came in.
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  Speaker 1: The caller reported a delivery car with a running motor
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  Speaker 1: on the church parking lot. Members of the community who
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  Speaker 1: came to a bingo evening on Monday noticed the car
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  Speaker 1: that appeared in the news. Signs and serial numbers confirmed
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  Speaker 1: that it was the car they missed at the shopping center.
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  Speaker 1: The investigators approached carefully because they did not know who
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  Speaker 1: or what was in it. There was no one on
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  Speaker 1: the driver's seat, but the investigators could see the burrs
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  Speaker 1: of a body on the ground. They tried to open
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  Speaker 1: the car. But the armored vehicle was even impenetrable for
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  Speaker 1: the agents.
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  Speaker 2: The engine ran. It was locked.
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  Speaker 1: And a first fleeting examination of the interior revealed the
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  Speaker 1: body that lay in the middle. No.
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  Speaker 2: To keep access to the car, we had to call
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  Speaker 2: the money transport company.
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  Speaker 1: No one at the church had seen who had parked
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  Speaker 1: the car. Or which vehicle they used to escape. Looking
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  Speaker 1: through the window at the body, the police could see
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  Speaker 1: blood on the chest near a Wells Fargo sign. There
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  Speaker 1: was no sign of breathing. Die Behörden glaubten, dass John
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  Speaker 1: McGash bei dem Raubüberfall getötet worden war. Es gab keine
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  Speaker 1: Einschusslöcher an der Außenseite des Wagens. Kein zerbrochenes Glas, keine
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  Speaker 1: Anzeichen für ein gewaltsames Eindringen an den Türen. Wer auch
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  Speaker 1: immer den Wagen überfallen hat, wusste, was er tat. Ein
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  Speaker 1: Raubüberfall auf einen Geldtransporter ist ein ziemlich ausgeklügeltes Verbrechen. Und
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  Speaker 1: es erfordert eine Menge detaillierter Planung, After we had found
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  Speaker 1: the transporter and the body, we knew that we were
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  Speaker 1: probably dealing with people who had thought about it very
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  Speaker 1: well and had planned in detail and who would not
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  Speaker 1: be scared away by a murder to execute it.
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  Speaker 2: The investigators had.
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  Speaker 1: To get into the transporter to find out what had happened.
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  Speaker 1: On November 28, 1994, the FBI and the police of Glendale, Arizona,
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  Speaker 1: examined a money transporter that had been taken away from
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  Speaker 1: a shopping center and left on the parking lot of
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  Speaker 1: a church in the nearby Sun City. The driver, the
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  Speaker 1: 61-year-old John McGosh, was dead in the driver's house. He
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  Speaker 1: was shot in the head once, but his death did
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  Speaker 1: not come immediately. The technicians fixed aspirated syringes, which indicates
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  Speaker 1: that McGosh had breathed after the shot. The technicians secured
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  Speaker 1: numerous hidden fingerprints from the cash registers inside the transporter.
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  Speaker 1: These should be compared with the known fingerprints of the employees.
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  Speaker 1: No fingerprints were found. Hair or fibers did not point
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  Speaker 1: to a suspect either. Inside the transporter, the investigators found 132,000
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  Speaker 1: dollars in coins. The cash and the cheques in the
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  Speaker 1: estimated value of 920,000 dollars had disappeared. The details of
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  Speaker 1: the crime indicated that there were several violent perpetrators, according
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  Speaker 1: to Special Agent Steven Chenoweth. After we saw the transporter,
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  Speaker 1: we knew that we were probably dealing with more than
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  Speaker 1: one person, as this would be very difficult for a
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  Speaker 1: single person to process. So we knew that we were
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  Speaker 1: probably looking for at least two or more people. After
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  Speaker 1: very vicious and violent people who would be scared out
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  Speaker 1: of their wits to achieve their goals. Namely the money
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  Speaker 1: that was in the transporter. For the investigator Tom Clayton
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  Speaker 1: from Glendale, the deposition of the transporter outside the city
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  Speaker 1: limits of Glendale was for the understanding of criminals for
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  Speaker 1: police proceedings. We believed that.
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  Speaker 2: They had parked the transporter in Sun City.
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  Speaker 1: Um ihn aus unserer Zuständigkeit in eine andere zu bringen
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  Speaker 1: und die Ermittlungen sowie die Kommunikation zwischen den Polizeibehörden zu erschweren.
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  Speaker 1: Vielleicht hofften sie, dass wir die beiden Dinge nicht sofort
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  Speaker 1: miteinander in Verbindung bringen würden. Während der Autopsie des Geldtransportfahrers
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  Speaker 1: fand der Gerichtsmediziner mehrere kleine Projektilfragmente auf der linken Seite
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  Speaker 1: des Kopfes des Opfers. Die Fragmente waren zu stark beschädigt,
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  Speaker 1: um die Art der Tatwaffe zu bestimmen. It seemed to
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  Speaker 1: be a small caliber, maybe a Ply 20R. The court
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  Speaker 1: doctor did not find any traces of smog on the
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  Speaker 1: victim's head. That meant that he had been shot from
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  Speaker 1: a certain distance. McGosh's partner said the driver often smoked
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  Speaker 1: a cigarette while waiting in the transporter. Although it was
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  Speaker 1: against the company guidelines, he normally opened his door to
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  Speaker 1: let the smoke out. The investigators believed that the murderers
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  Speaker 1: knew this and shot at him when he opened the door.
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  Speaker 1: Due to his experience in the hunt for refugee criminals,
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  Speaker 1: the now retired FBI investigator Ron Myers was removed from
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  Speaker 1: the Hask Force for Refugees to take over this case.
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  Speaker 1: From the beginning he knew that they were not hunting amateurs.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things that made us suspect that they
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  Speaker 1: were professionals was the way they carried out the robbery.
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  Speaker 1: They were looking for an abandoned part of the shopping
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  Speaker 1: center where hardly anyone parked and there would not be
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  Speaker 1: many witnesses. They drove through areas where hardly anyone was
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  Speaker 1: on the road during the day and chose an empty
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  Speaker 1: parking lot of a church where there was no one
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  Speaker 1: during the day. The investigators received dozens of calls on
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  Speaker 1: their hotline. A witness reported and claimed to have information
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  Speaker 1: that could be helpful. Er sagte, er habe zur fraglichen
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  Speaker 1: Zeit einen weißen Lieferwagen gesehen, der das Einkaufszentrum schnell verließ.
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  Speaker 1: Ein roter Pickup folgte kurz darauf. Aber er war sich
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  Speaker 1: nicht sicher, ob die beiden Fahrzeuge zusammengehören. Die Ermittler waren
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  Speaker 1: frustriert darüber, dass niemand den eigentlichen Überfall im Einkaufszentrum gesehen hatte.
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  Speaker 1: Wir konnten keinerlei Augenzeugen finden. Und wenn man nicht wirklich weiß,
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  Speaker 1: was passiert ist, oder niemanden hat, der einem sagen kann,
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  Speaker 1: was vielleicht mit dem Lieferwagen, vorgefallen ist, dann ist es
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  Speaker 1: ein Rätsel.
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  Speaker 2: Dann ist es ein Rätsel.
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  Speaker 1: Da es keine anderen handfesten Spuren gab, befragten die Ermittler
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  Speaker 1: die Nachbarschaften zwischen dem Einkaufszentrum und der Kirche. Vielleicht hatte
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  Speaker 1: dort jemand etwas beobachtet. Edward Morgan, ein Bewohner von Sun City,
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  Speaker 1: erinnerte sich, dass er den Lieferwagen gesehen hatte. On the
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  Speaker 1: afternoon of November 28, Mr. Morgan came back from the
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  Speaker 1: post office when he noticed the truck. And Mr. Morgan
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  Speaker 1: stopped because he thought they wouldn't stop at the stop
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  Speaker 1: sign and was afraid of being.
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  Speaker 2: Rammed.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, he noticed the white truck with the
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  Speaker 1: red pickup, just behind it, which both drove at an
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  Speaker 1: increased speed through the intersection and ran away. And he
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  Speaker 1: found that quite unusual, not only their driving style, but
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  Speaker 1: also how the red pickup seemed to follow.
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  Speaker 2: The white truck.
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  Speaker 1: I think they drove... Mr. Morgan could not keep to
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  Speaker 1: the numbers or the face of the passenger in the truck.
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  Speaker 1: Desperate on the search for a breakthrough, the investigators wanted
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  Speaker 1: to put him under hypnosis to bring his memory to life.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan agreed to travel with the investigators to Texas.
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  Speaker 3: Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Morgan, you should go now.
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  Speaker 2: There they met with a forensic hypnotist.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps the witness could remember more details of the incident
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  Speaker 1: under hypnosis. Statements under hypnosis cannot be used in court,
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  Speaker 1: but some police authorities consider it a helpful investigative instrument.
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  Speaker 1: Under hypnosis, Morgan turned to the events of November 28.
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  Speaker 1: He remembered the white truck and the man sitting on
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  Speaker 1: the passenger seat. Investigators now believe that at least three
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  Speaker 1: people were involved in the attack. Two in the truck
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  Speaker 1: and one in the red truck. When he was asked
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  Speaker 1: for the license plate of the truck, he could remember
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  Speaker 1: a part. 230. It wasn't much, but the investigators had
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  Speaker 1: a point of reference. We had to go to the
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  Speaker 1: registration office to check all combinations of these numbers to
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  Speaker 1: see what hundreds of possible vehicles were, as Arizona does
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  Speaker 1: not have any colors in the vehicle registration. Wir wussten also,
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  Speaker 1: dass wir nach einer bestimmten Art von LKW suchten, konnten
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  Speaker 1: aber anhand der Zulassungen die Farbe nicht bestimmen, was bedeutete,
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  Speaker 1: dass wir alle auf der Liste befragen mussten. Versuche, meantime mussten.
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  Speaker 1: Die Ermittler machten schließlich hunderte von LKW-Besitzern ausfindig. Jeder wurde befragt,
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  Speaker 1: aber kein Verdächtiger ergab sich. With a refreshed memory of
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  Speaker 1: the passenger of the delivery car, he worked together with
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  Speaker 1: a police officer tomorrow. There was no guarantee that the
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  Speaker 1: details called under hypnosis were correct. But the authorities were
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  Speaker 1: ready to try almost everything. The FBI continued the drawing
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  Speaker 1: to the media. Police and FBI have been looking for
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  Speaker 1: you for almost a month. The FBI and the police
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  Speaker 1: of Glendale, Arizona, believe that three men were involved in
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  Speaker 1: the robbery. But by the end of 1994, there were
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  Speaker 1: still no suspects. It started to look like the murderers
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  Speaker 1: would never be found. But the investigators did not know
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  Speaker 1: that the suspect from the phantom picture had already been identified.
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  Speaker 1: In December 1994, a month after the deadly attack on
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  Speaker 1: a freight carrier in Glendale, Arizona, the investigators were caught.
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  Speaker 1: The investigators believed that at least three people had committed
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  Speaker 1: the robbery. They had a phantom image of one, and
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  Speaker 1: hardly anything else. Then, on December 31, the investigators received
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  Speaker 1: a call A detective in Mesa, Arizona, was told that
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  Speaker 1: his native woman had information about the crime. An examination
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  Speaker 1: showed that the woman had a stolen driver's license.
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  Speaker 3: It would simply.
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  Speaker 1: Make it to the interrogation to bring along without. The
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  Speaker 1: FBI asked the local police authorities to arrest her for
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  Speaker 1: the stolen driver's license. The investigators asked the woman if
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  Speaker 1: she knew anything about the money transporter robbery in Glendale.
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  Speaker 1: She claimed not to have any real information, but she
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  Speaker 1: knew someone who had.
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  Speaker 4: It.
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  Speaker 1: She told the investigators that her friend, Judy Espinosa, had
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  Speaker 1: spoken to her after the news reports about the robbery.
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  Speaker 1: Espinosa suspected that her friend might have been involved in it.
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  Speaker 1: Die Frau sagte den Ermittlern, wo Espinosa arbeitete. Die Ermittler
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  Speaker 1: sprachen mit Espinosa. Sie befragten sie zu dem Raub und
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  Speaker 1: erinnerten sie daran, dass die Behinderung einer Bundesuntersuchung selbst ein
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  Speaker 1: Verbrechen ist. Sie erklärte sich bereit, ihre Fragen zu beantworten.
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  Speaker 1: She explained that her friend James Greenham, who had the
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  Speaker 1: nickname Yoda, had asked her what she would do if
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  Speaker 1: he had stolen a money transporter and suddenly had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of money. She told the FBI Special Agent Ron
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  Speaker 1: Myers that Greenham sometimes worked as a cashier.
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  Speaker 4: Jim never had a cent, but on the day of
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  Speaker 4: the robbery he came home in the evening, told her
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  Speaker 4: he had to kill someone and he had a lot
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  Speaker 4: of cash with him. She told us that Jim was
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  Speaker 4: hunting for his head money with a man named Tim Ring.
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  Speaker 4: And that she had been to Tim Ring's house and
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  Speaker 4: had noticed several new off-road vehicles, jet skis and a
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  Speaker 4: new motorcycle. And Tim had made a remark that she
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  Speaker 4: would never find out how much money was in this garage.
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  Speaker 1: The information was good, but it was just hearsay. The
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  Speaker 1: investigators needed more solid evidence. Espinosa had kept several mint
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  Speaker 1: rolls that Greenham had given her. The paper rolls matched
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  Speaker 1: those used by dealers on the route of the money transporter.
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  Speaker 1: More than a month after the crime, the investigators finally
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  Speaker 1: took names. They examined the backgrounds of the two suspects.
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  Speaker 1: FBI Special Agent Stephen Chenoweth was the name of one
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  Speaker 1: of the men known as... Tim Ring was used in
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  Speaker 1: other FBI cases as an informant. We paid him for.
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  Speaker 2: Some information he had delivered to us in the past.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, to get information from informants, you don't
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with priests and you know good people.
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  Speaker 2: You have to deal with bad boys out there and
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  Speaker 2: Ring is a bad boy. If you're.
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  Speaker 1: Ready, Tim Ring and James Greenham worked as prison guards
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  Speaker 1: in Phoenix and now worked together as headhunter hunters. Both
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  Speaker 1: had many hours of shooting training. Ring was an experienced sniper.
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  Speaker 1: The persecution of headhunter hunters would be dangerous. Die Tatsache,
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  Speaker 1: dass diese Verdächtigen eine polizeiliche Ausbildung hatten, machte den Fall
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  Speaker 1: ziemlich schwierig. Zum einen waren sie in Überwachungstechniken geschult. Wenn
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  Speaker 1: sie nach jemandem Ausschau hielten, der sie verfolgte, wussten sie,
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  Speaker 1: worauf sie achten mussten. Sie wussten, was sie von jedem
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  Speaker 1: erwarten konnten, der sie verfolgte, der sie verfolgte. Also mussten
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  Speaker 1: wir sehr vorsichtig sein, wenn wir sie beschatteten. Das FBI
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  Speaker 1: und die Polizei von Glendale begannen eine 24-Stunden-Überwachung zu Boden
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: und aus der Luft. Sie mussten verdeckt arbeiten. Wissen Sie,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: wenn Sie nach Luftüberwachung suchen, schauen Sie nach oben. Nun,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: wir sind weit hier drüben, weil wir von dort vorne
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: aus nichts.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Sehen können, wissen Sie. Also sind wir weit hier drüben,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: ganz weit hier drüben.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Die Agenten wollten sehen, wie das paar Geld verdiente und
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: wie viel sie ausgaben.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Zu der Zeit, als wir Mr. Greenham und Mr.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Ring beschatteten, ging, soweit wir das beurteilen konnten, keiner von
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: beiden einer geregelten Arbeit nach. They had no income from
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: legitimate sources. Nevertheless, we observed how they spent a lot
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: of money. Ring let his truck overtake and Greenham took
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: a new apartment. Both bought motorcycles. The agents followed their purchases.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: It seemed as if the suspects would not exceed a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: certain limit to avoid the attention of the tax authorities.
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: Here.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: And they always seemed to pay attention to their spending
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: under the $ 10, 000 limit, knowing that spending on this amount
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: would be reported to the tax office in bar from
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: the shops. The investigators further shaded Ring and Greenham and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: created a list of their contacts. They photographed everyone who
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: the suspects met. They still didn't know who the third
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: partner was. The detective from Glendale, Tom Clayton, hoped that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: the surveillance would find the three at a meeting. We
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: watched them when they went to restaurants to meet each other.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: We saw them go to strip clubs where they met
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a few dancers they knew. Everywhere they went, the suspects
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: gave out a lot of cash, without suspecting that the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: investigators were watching them. them. Indicative evidence brought them in
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: touch with the robbery and the murder case. But the
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: FBI and the police of Glendale still didn't know exactly
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: what happened and who else was involved. Somehow, the investigators
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: had to infiltrate the shadow world of the money-hunter. While
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the FBI and the police of Glendale, Arizona continued to
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: investigate the deadly attack on the money-transporter, they received a
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: message from a accomplice of their two main suspects. The
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: money-hunter Michael Zendes assumed that he had identified two other
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: men with money-transporters. He believed that these men had committed
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the robbery in Glendale without him. Annoyed about being excluded
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: from the business, he decided to talk. He gave FBI
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Special Agent Ron Myers a hint on the third perpetrator.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Sanders came up to us and told us that he
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: believed that Tim Ring and Jim Greenham were involved in
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this money transporter robbery and that a former police officer
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: named Fergie, who worked in a camera shop in the
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Paradise Valley Mall, could be the third man. The investigators
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: had to identify.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Fergie.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: They looked through their case photos. The surveillance teams had
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: observed how Ring and Greenham met with a bearded man
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: who drove a Camaro. The car was also allowed by
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: William Ferguson. Da Sanders said Fergie was an ex-cop. Detective
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Tom Clayton from Glendale checked the police department's personal files.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: In the investigation of William Ferguson's background, we found out
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that after 20 years he went to the Phoenix Police
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Department in a state of rest, which was accelerated by
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: disciplinary problems. Investigators began with the surveillance of Ferguson. They
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: saw that the ex-policeman often met with the other suspects
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and also spent a lot of cash. The agents believed
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: to have identified the three men who were responsible for
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the robbery and murder. The investigations were made difficult by
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the fact that the three suspects had a police training,
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: because we knew that they would hide evidence. In addition,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: they were trained in dealing with firearms, which made them
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: dangerous for the officers. Detectives and agents needed evidence that
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: brought the men into contact. During the surveillance, they began
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: with garbage checks and confiscated garbage bags of the suspects
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: in the hope that some clues could appear. FBI technicians
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: examined the garbage. In Ring's trash they found several cards.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: On each card there were notes on routes of money transporters.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: An analysis confirmed that the handwriting came from Ring. But
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the investigators needed more. They wanted recordings on which the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: suspects spoke of the crime. All three men had keys
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to James Greenham's apartment. FBI Special Agent Stephen Chenoweth believed
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: that they used the apartment as their headquarters. So that
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: was the reason why we decided to go ahead and
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: install a hearing aid in Greenham's apartment. Special Agent Myers
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: was part of the team that entered the apartment to
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: place the device. When we opened the door to go in,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: an alarm went off immediately, to which we closed the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: door and left the area. At a later point, we
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: had to return experts with an alarm system.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And when.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: We walked through the door this time, we found out
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: that it was just a simple motion detector, which was
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: on the top of the refrigerator, and we just had
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: to press the switch.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: It wasn't complicated.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: While the team was in Greenham's apartment, the detective who
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: was monitoring Tim Ring saw how he left his house.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Ring owned a red truck, similar to the one that
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: was allegedly seen as he was following the delivery man.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: The detective followed Ring. After a few turns, he recognized
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: where the suspect was going. The agents were still in
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: the apartment. Tim Ring was on his way there. Ring
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: often went to Greenham's apartment, even if Greenham wasn't there.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: If he.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Went to the apartment, he would interrupt the connection of
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: the hearing aid. The team inside needed more time. The
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: detective called a uniformed officer to stop Ringel from exceeding speed.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: All to stop the suspect. The officer taught Ringel about
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the dangers of grass. The detectives wanted to deal with
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: him while the team was done in the apartment. They
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: just made it just in time before Ringel entered. The
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: investigators also let the fixed network and mobile phones of
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the other suspects stop. To get them to talk, the
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: chief special agent Stephen Chenoweth published false information about the case.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: We decided to publish a press release to talk about
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the investigation, from which we thought that if they would
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: hear it, it would certainly trigger some phone calls and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: other discussions among these three suspects. And it had the
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: desired effect that they would While the suspects spoke, the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: investigators listened.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: We didn't get a real confession in which they said,
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: I robbed the money transporter. What we got were several
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: conversations among each other about different aspects of the case.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: You always heard the news, followed all printed reports or
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: all TV reports. And when something appeared on TV, they
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: called each other and made comments like, well, that's not
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: how it happened. You know, you'll never find this number sign.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: The evidence against the suspects.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Increased.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Have you seen him lately?
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: But the state prosecutors wanted direct statements about the crime.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Before they filed a statement. The investigators provoked the suspects again.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: A detective from Glendale went to James Greenham's apartment when
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: the suspect wasn't there. At the door, he left his
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: business card with the note, trace, 173 years. The investigators
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: watched Greenham's reaction to the card. He knew what the
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: note meant. The authorities regarded him as a trace. Er wusste,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: was die Notiz bedeutet. Die Behörden betrachteten ihn als Spur.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Greenham wurde völlig aufgelöst. Er raste von seiner Wohnung davon
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: und rief Tim Ringel auf seinem Handy an. Agenten hielten
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: aus einem Flugzeug Ausschau und hörten die Telefongespräche ab.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Mr.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: Timmann. Greenham went out into the desert before he stopped.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: That's my guy.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Mr.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Mann, they have nothing against you in their hands. Don't worry.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Ringel tried to calm Greenham and promised that the authorities
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: would not have anything against them. We have nothing. Don't worry.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: But Greenham said he was afraid.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I can't do that anymore.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: He even threatened with suicide. Just do something stupid. After all,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Ring talked to Greenham and convinced him that the authorities
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: were not following him. But if I see a bull,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: I see a bull. Greenham said if he still contacted
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: a policeman, he would bury the money. There seemed to
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: be a direct connection to the crime. Cent 40. The
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: investigators had the feeling to finally have enough evidence.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Bring it away, 67.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: They sent units to capture Greenham and Ferguson. Jim Greenham
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: was captured by a team. William Ferguson was captured by
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: another team and resisted, but was quickly overwhelmed. Tim Ring
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: was lured into the FBI office under the pretext of
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: seeing some photos, because Ring had previously offered to help
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the FBI identify the perpetrators, which we tried to find out,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: which we already knew. The FBI agent who had previously
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: used Ring as an informant called the suspect. Ring willingly
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: agreed to come.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: By.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: On February 16, 1995, Tim Ring met in the FBI's
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: office in Phoenix. Covered investigators awaited him in the lobby.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: They believed he was not armed in the FBI office,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: but could not be sure In order to ensure their safety,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: they had to surprise him. We had two great, strong
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: trainers for defensive tactics, from whom a 25-year experience in
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: martial arts had. He came to him, missed him a
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: blow on the head and dragged him down like a
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: sack of potatoes before he knew what happened to.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Him.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: All three suspects were pulled out of the traffic. Now
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the investigators needed physical evidence to secure a successful prosecution.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: On February 16, 1995, after the arrest of three men
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: for a money transporter robbery and murder, FBI agents and
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: detectives from Glendale, Arizona searched the apartments of the suspects.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: In Tim Ring's house, Dem mutmaßlichen Anführer des Trios, fanden
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: sie wichtige Beweise. Die Ermittler stellten einen Zettel sicher, der
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: mit den Initialen F, Y und T markiert war. Unter
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: jedem Buchstaben stand eine Zahl. Die Zahlen ergaben zusammen die
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Summe des Geldes, das aus dem Geldtransporter gestohlen worden war.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: Die Agenten glaubten, F stünde für Ferdi, Y für Greenham-Spitzname
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: Yoda und T für Tim. It was the receipt that
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the three used to divide the money. In the garage,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: the investigators found a red pickup that resembled the vehicle
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: that the witness Edward Morgan had seen in Sun City.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: The number sign, however, did not coincide with the fact
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that Morgan had remembered under forensic hypnosis. Ring kept several
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: weapons and plenty of ammunition in his house. In a
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: sports bag, the agents also put 270,000 dollars in the safe.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Another 64,000 were found in Ferdi's house. Almost 600,000 dollars.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Of cash had been stolen. The investigators found that about 100,000
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: dollars were missing. The case against the three suspects seemed solid.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: FBI Special Agent Ron Myers hoped that the evidence would
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: bring him to talk. We finally got information firsthand about
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: this crime when Jim Greenham decided to cooperate. Jim Greenham
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: was the only one of the three who showed remorse
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: for what they had done and how they had killed
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the driver. Jim decided to cooperate. He told us what
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: had happened. He called us all the roles these people
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: had played in the attack. Reenem met with the investigators
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: and explained that the planning began.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: In autumn 1994.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Tim Ring had the idea to rob a money transporter.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: So they began to.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Expel the Wells Fargo vehicles. They drove through Glendale and
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: followed various trucks and transporters on their route. Then they
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: focused on John McGaugh's transporter. They shut it down for days.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: They could observe this one special transporter at several stops
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: and noticed that every time the driver got off the boat,
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: the door opened about 20 cm to smoke and blow the.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Smoke out to the side. And blow the smoke.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: They observed the driver at several stops and noticed this
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: one special stop on the back of a shopping center,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: where they noticed that he was always parking at the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: same place. What is it? On November 28, 1994, the
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Monday after Thanksgiving, a day when they were sure there
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: would be a lot of money in the transporter, they
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: were ready to strike. James Greenham and William Ferguson waited
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: unnoticed at the store. They waited until the courier was
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: out of sight. Like according to schedule, McGosh opened the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: door to smoke. Tim Ring parked 15 meters away with
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: stolen license plates on his truck. The trained shooter had
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: a silencer on his. 22 caliber rifle so that no
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: one would hear the shot. He aimed through the opening
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: and fired once. The bay must have hit the ground
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: with Gosch. The transporter was unguarded with the dead driver.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: No one noticed the vehicle that was leaving. They drove
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: to the church parking lot. It would be empty by
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: this time of day. They looted the money and the
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: checks in the pickup truck. They knew that the authorities
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: were looking for the transporter. Sie ließen die meisten Münzen
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: zurück und machten sich daran, die Schecks und andere Beweismittel
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: zu vernichten, so Detective Tom Clayton. Sie luden das Geld
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: in Tim Ring's truck, fuhren hinaus in die Wüste, teilten
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: das Geld auf, wechselten die Kleidung und verbrannten alle Beweise.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Greenham sagte, sie hätten die verbrannten Beweisstücke und das gestohlene
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Nummernschild in der Wüste vergraben.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: Und Sie können uns zu der Stelle führen, wo die
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: Schilder vergraben sind.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Special Agent Stephen Chenoweth asked if it was the sign
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: that Edward Morgan had seen. We drove there, actually found
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: the spot, dug it out and found that the three
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: digits on the sign actually matched the ones that Morgan
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: had given us. So he was actually right with his statements.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: James Greenham was accused of murder of the second degree
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: and armed robbery and is sentenced to 27 and a
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: half years. William Ferguson was known to be guilty of
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: the armed robbery and the aid after the crime and
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: is sentenced to 17 years. On December 6, 1996, Tim
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Ring was found guilty of the murder of the first
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: degree of the conspiracy and the invasion. Whenever someone murders
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: a driver like this, it is a very dangerous crime
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: and you would certainly want to use all resources to
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: identify the involved persons. und hinter Gitter zu bringen, und
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: hinter Gitter zu bringen. Oh.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: For his crimes, Ring received the death penalty. Waiting. At
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: the moment.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: David.
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: Prison. Florence. In the direction.
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: Bye. Bye.