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UK Column News - 12th May 2025 · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twelfth of May twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty five, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK Column News.
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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Brian Gerrish, delighted to have Ben Rubin
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Speaker 1: with me in the studio and we're joined by Diane
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Speaker 1: Rasmusen mcaddie via live link, and we're also very very
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Speaker 1: pleased to have a guest with us for today's news. Now,
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Speaker 1: I'd just like to say weather over the weekend just
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Speaker 1: complete contrast. We had some really lovely sunny weather. The
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Speaker 1: government wasn't too happy about that, so there were a
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Speaker 1: few warnings which we'll cover later in the news, and
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Speaker 1: then that was followed in Plymouth at least by a downpour.
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Speaker 1: But we've survived amazingly. So the news today we are
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Speaker 1: going to get onto hot topics and the key topic
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Speaker 1: is immigration now known by the BBC as migration, but
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Speaker 1: that must be just a change of emphasis by the BBC.
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Speaker 1: But I'd like to say to the audience the UK
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Speaker 1: Column is absolutely going to stay on target with the
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Speaker 1: change or Change agenda. We believe that if we're to
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Speaker 1: make any progress through politics, we have to understand what's
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Speaker 1: really going on and who is driving it now. Last
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Speaker 1: Monday's News I focused on Keir Starmer. Let's get him
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Speaker 1: back up on screen. And the key bit here is that,
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Speaker 1: of course what Labor is doing, what Keir Starmer is doing,
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Speaker 1: is talking about change. We've seen this through the Tories
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Speaker 1: as well, but it's the change agenda which is doing
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Speaker 1: the destruction in UK. Repeated change effectively equals revolution. And
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Speaker 1: I put up this diagram on screen saying that we
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Speaker 1: needed to stay abreast of the fact that we've got
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Speaker 1: UK locked into a hundred year packed with Ukraine. We
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Speaker 1: have no idea really what this means, or what people
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Speaker 1: are involved, or what their political opinions are, or indeed
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Speaker 1: their morality. We're locked into a memorandum of understanding with Israel.
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Speaker 1: Then we've got the EU still in the background, which
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Speaker 1: clearly we've never left Brexit without the exit. And Keir
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Speaker 1: Starmer had talked about preferring devils to Westminster. Now, if
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Speaker 1: I just add in one more section to bring us
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Speaker 1: up to date. Of course, the big thing in the
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Speaker 1: news over the weekend and today in particular is immigration.
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Speaker 1: And I had a little banner last Monday, and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to put that banner up again and say will
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Speaker 1: reform actually grip these issues. Now they're in a good
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Speaker 1: place because of the success in the local elections, and
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Speaker 1: we know a lot of people worked very, very hard.
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Speaker 1: So there are opportunities, but they're also threats. And the
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Speaker 1: key threat as far as the column is concerned, is
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Speaker 1: will the leadership of reform grip the realities about what's
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Speaker 1: driving politics. Now here's the hot topic of migration. And
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Speaker 1: let's just have a look at if at Cooper we
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Speaker 1: can pop that one up on screen please. So here
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Speaker 1: she is on the BBC and she's talking about dealing
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Speaker 1: with migration. Immigration, but she says it's time to end
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Speaker 1: care worker recruitment from abroad. So suddenly we've gone from
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Speaker 1: rubber boats to the big problem of care workers. Let's
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Speaker 1: have a listen and a look at what she said.
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Speaker 2: Well, what we're doing is it's a fundamental shift in
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Speaker 2: the approach to say that the immigration system should be
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Speaker 2: properly linked to skills and training. Here in the UK,
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Speaker 2: what you saw on that chart was really this failed
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Speaker 2: free market experiment with which the Conservatives replaced free movement,
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Speaker 2: where employers were effectively encouraged to recruit from wherever they wanted.
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Speaker 2: To including they actually had a twenty percent discount on
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Speaker 2: wages if they recruited from overseas rather than training here
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Speaker 2: in the UK. Well, that is a broken approach and
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Speaker 2: that's where we saw overseas recruitments, saw training being cut,
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Speaker 2: were switching that round and now saying well, bring in
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Speaker 2: new visa controls, particularly on the lower skilled migration to
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Speaker 2: bring that down, and also new requirements for workforce strategies,
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Speaker 2: for training commitments and for that better working to get
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Speaker 2: people who are not working back into the labor market
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Speaker 2: here in the UK.
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Speaker 1: So I think many people might listen to that clip
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Speaker 1: and say a lot of waffle, what is she really
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Speaker 1: talking about? And of course the reality is that if
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Speaker 1: that Cooper dared not talk about the reality of what's
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Speaker 1: going on, the figures or the latest figures seven hundred
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Speaker 1: and twenty eight thousand net immigration into UK ending in
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Speaker 1: the year ending June twenty twenty four. So this is
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Speaker 1: a massive figure. Ukraine has been a big part of
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Speaker 1: that extraordinary figure. But if we put one of the
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Speaker 1: diagrams from the government itself on screen here, the thing
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Speaker 1: I want to emphasize for people is that small boat
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Speaker 1: arrivals at thirty seven thousand. This is a drop in
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Speaker 1: the ocean, and the whole time that everybody focuses on
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Speaker 1: the boats, what they are not doing is focusing on
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Speaker 1: the reality of how this system works, with people pouring
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Speaker 1: into the country on all sorts of study and work visas,
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Speaker 1: and of course many of them taking jobs away from
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Speaker 1: people who are living already living in UK. If we
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Speaker 1: have a look at some of the forms of visas,
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Speaker 1: this is another graph here study visas over four hundred thousand,
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Speaker 1: work visas about three hundred and seventy thousand. Then we
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Speaker 1: have families. These are the massive, massive figures of people
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Speaker 1: coming into the country. So I just highlight those two
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Speaker 1: top ones, and then on top of this, if we
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Speaker 1: get in and have a bit more of the breakdown here. Apologies,
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Speaker 1: I've lost the logo of the source of this. We'll
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Speaker 1: correct that in the show notes. But this is applications
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Speaker 1: for health and care visas and study visas in the
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Speaker 1: year ending December twenty twenty two to November twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: And down at the bottom of your screen you can
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Speaker 1: see health and care that's in the purple and the
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Speaker 1: blue line, which are peaking at over two hundred and
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand and then dropping to over one hundred thousand. Now,
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Speaker 1: something that's not talked about, although it does emerge in
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Speaker 1: the figures, is that we have the International Labor Organization
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Speaker 1: at work. And if you've never heard of them, well
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Speaker 1: you need to know about them, because they're doing an
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Speaker 1: amazing job in inverted commas. Let's have a listen to
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Speaker 1: this video clip.
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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, the number of international migrants reached
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Speaker 3: almost two hundred and eighty five million. Of these, nearly
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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty eight million were actively contributing to
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Speaker 3: the labor force. This means that international migrants play a
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Speaker 3: crucial role of the global economy. In twenty twenty two,
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Speaker 3: they made up almost five percent of the total labor force.
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Speaker 3: Most were living in high income countries. The regions hosting
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Speaker 3: the majority of migrants in the labor force were in Northern,
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Speaker 3: Southern and Western Europe, Northern America, and the Arab States.
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Speaker 3: So what are these migrant workers doing. Most employed international
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Speaker 3: migrants were in the services sector. The sector accounts for
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Speaker 3: more than eighty percent of employed migrant women. In particular,
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Speaker 3: the caer economy bends from international migrants in the labor force,
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Speaker 3: especially women migrants. Almost one in three of employed women
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Speaker 3: migrants are in care jobs compared to one in five
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Speaker 3: of non migrant women. Learn more about the realities and
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Speaker 3: challenges of migrant workers check out the latest ILO Global
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Speaker 3: Migration Reports.
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Speaker 1: So when we look at UK statistics, we automatically start
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Speaker 1: to see the International Labor Organization at work in its
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Speaker 1: production of statistics and huge figures globally. This is some
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Speaker 1: of their stats migrants two hundred and fifty five point
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Speaker 1: seven million worldwide, with one hundred and sixty seven point
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Speaker 1: seven million in the labor force worldwide. Then we can
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Speaker 1: take a quick look at the peaks here. So the
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Speaker 1: peaks are in northern America and also into northern and
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Speaker 1: southern and western Europe with twenty three percent for Europe.
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Speaker 1: But this is the key point that UK is working
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Speaker 1: in partnership with this organization, so there should be no
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Speaker 1: surprises that UK is continuing to keep this migration running
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Speaker 1: and this routine has been going since nineteen nineteen. If
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Speaker 1: we have a look at the chronology from the International
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Speaker 1: Labor Organization itself, there are penalties to what's happening. This
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Speaker 1: is the nursing times from two thousand and seven where
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Speaker 1: it was admitting that patients were very upset by not
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Speaker 1: being able to understand what nursing and doctor nurses and
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Speaker 1: doctors were saying around them. And this is going back
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Speaker 1: to twenty eleven where Theresa May was having to admit
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Speaker 1: that there were problems in integration and this was causing difficulties,
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Speaker 1: including with security. So she said, we'll do more than
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Speaker 1: any other government before us to promote integration. The gender
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Speaker 1: is not stopping migration and immigration. The agenda is to
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Speaker 1: facilitate it. And this is very clear across all three parties.
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Speaker 1: And at which point we say, is it party politics
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Speaker 1: that's driving the agenda or are we dealing with something deeper.
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Speaker 1: And at that point, I'd like to welcome Diane on
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Speaker 1: screen because Diane, you have been looking in depth at
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Speaker 1: what's been happening with powerful organizations such as the Fabians.
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Speaker 4: Yes, thanks Brian, and hello Ben, it's good to be
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Speaker 4: here today to talk about this. I've been looking in
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Speaker 4: particular at the Faliens. There are a lot of organizations
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Speaker 4: around the world that are basically hidden in plain sights,
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Speaker 4: and I want to at this point welcome professor Gloriat
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Speaker 4: mass is my guest today. She wrote an article for
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Speaker 4: a UK column that was published a few weeks ago
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Speaker 4: called the Secret Society dedicated to New World Order, the Fabians,
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Speaker 4: and it's got some phenomenal responses from viewers, from other
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Speaker 4: people on the UK Column team, and it really exposed
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Speaker 4: quite a bit. So at this point I'd like to
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Speaker 4: invite Professor mass into the program and maybe just summarize
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Speaker 4: a bit about your article and then let's talk about
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Speaker 4: how this is relevant to what we're talking about today
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Speaker 4: in the news. So, hello, Lauria, Welcome to the UK Column.
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Speaker 5: Hi Diane, it's great to be on the show.
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Speaker 4: So if you want to just go ahead and go
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Speaker 4: through a little bit of your article and kind of
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Speaker 4: how you got to this article, how you reached this side.
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Speaker 4: I know as your editor that you started looking at
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Speaker 4: the Assistant Dying Bill and that somehow led you to
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Speaker 4: the Stadian organization. Do you want to talk a little
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Speaker 4: about the process and what you learned as you were
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Speaker 4: going through the writing.
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Speaker 5: Well, yes, my way in, as you say, was the
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Speaker 5: assisted Dying Bill, which is awaiting its third vote in Parliament,
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Speaker 5: and I noticed deep concerns from numerous sources, including concerns
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Speaker 5: from the UCS Society the Protection of the Unborn Child,
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Speaker 5: who highlighted the extent to which the bill put vulnerable
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Speaker 5: people at risk, the fact that assisted dying could not
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Speaker 5: be controlled easily, that assisted dying would undermine palliative care,
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Speaker 5: and the purported pretext for the bill terminal illness and
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Speaker 5: intractable pain were not in fact the leading causes of
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Speaker 5: assisted dying in other countries. Because, of course, there are
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Speaker 5: many other countries that have introduced similar bills, and we
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Speaker 5: have a lot of experience to draw on, including a
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Speaker 5: US study twenty fifteen that said that there was a
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Speaker 5: link between assisted dying legislation and a six percent increase
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Speaker 5: in suicides across the board, doubling more than doubling amongst
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Speaker 5: a sixty five plus age group to fourteen point five
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Speaker 5: percent of suicides, creating an increased inclination to suicide. Well,
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Speaker 5: this is horrific. And then I came across an article
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Speaker 5: by Dawn Lester. Do look out her subseck article listing
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Speaker 5: out the drugs that would be used that would create
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Speaker 5: brain death, not death. I would provide the perfect climate,
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Speaker 5: perfect conditions for organ harvesting. And then there was a
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Speaker 5: committee appointed to look into the bill where the committee
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Speaker 5: twenty three mp strong, fourteen proponents only nine opponents, so many, many, many,
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Speaker 5: many safeguards were voted away and there was selective calling
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Speaker 5: of witnesses. Brilliant article on that unheard, And just before
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Speaker 5: the bank holiday, the government released a report talking about
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Speaker 5: savings to the HS over a ten year period from
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Speaker 5: a sister dime of sixty pounds. Perhaps they timed it
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Speaker 5: so that not too many people would notice in the
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Speaker 5: run up to the bank holiday. So that was all
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Speaker 5: pretty horrific. So I started to look more into that,
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Speaker 5: only to discover that many of the main players are
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Speaker 5: members of the Fabian Society, not least the proponent of
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Speaker 5: the bill, Kim Ledbeta. She spoke at a Fabian Woman's
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Speaker 5: Network conference in September last year, and she wrote a
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Speaker 5: report under their imprint. And then there were two ministers
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Speaker 5: on the committee, which is more than usually fined in
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Speaker 5: a private member's bill, that Sarah Sackman and Stephen Kinnock.
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Speaker 5: Sarah Sackman, Minister for Courts and Legal Services, indubitably a Fabian,
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Speaker 5: she was elected to the Executive Committee of the Fabian Society.
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Speaker 5: Over four years, that's twenty fifteen, to nineteen and the
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Speaker 5: other minister, what do you think of that? This fact
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Speaker 5: he's Minister for Care and a proponent of an assisted
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Speaker 5: dying bill. That Stephen Kinnock. He was author of a
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Speaker 5: Fabian report and speaker with other Fabians at Fabian's events.
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Speaker 5: So his father, Neil, I believe, was a Fabian, so
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Speaker 5: maybe he's followed in his father's footsteps. And of course
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Speaker 5: presiding over all of this is the Prime Minister, Sir
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Speaker 5: Keir Starmer, and he's a Fabian, in line with all
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Speaker 5: Labor Party prime ministers. In July if you wanted evidence
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, the Fabian Society itself referred to working
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Speaker 5: with a Fabian Prime Minister. So that was my wake
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Speaker 5: up call really, and I thought, what is it with
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Speaker 5: the Fabian society that's so top heavy in the assistance
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Speaker 5: dying now? And so I thought I'd do some more research,
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Speaker 5: and of course, with such an important topic, it's really
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Speaker 5: vital to use evidence based critical thinking. And actually that's
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Speaker 5: the subject of a book that I wrote with second
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Speaker 5: author Catherine Armitage, and it's called light Bulb Moments and
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Speaker 5: the Power of Critical Thinking. It's a weapon we all
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Speaker 5: have in our minds, brilliantly exemplified by UK column, and
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Speaker 5: so I adopted that approach. Evidence based very important because well,
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Speaker 5: I hadn't been taught anything about Fabian society at school
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Speaker 5: nor in the university. And I've been to university several
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Speaker 5: times for first, second and third degrees. And not surprising
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Speaker 5: perhaps because mainstream school and university is not necessarily where
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Speaker 5: we might go for truth. Truth University Press has published
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Speaker 5: book on that subject, The Dark Side of Academia, How
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Speaker 5: Truth Is Suppressed, So one shouldn't phaps be too surprised,
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Speaker 5: And certainly if you're interested in that book or the
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Speaker 5: Critical Thinking book, you can get them from the website
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Speaker 5: of ww of Truth University, which is www dot truth
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Speaker 5: University dot co dot uk. They're both good reads, by
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Speaker 5: the way. Now, we shouldn't be too surprised if we
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Speaker 5: didn't know about it, as I say, because mainstream education
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Speaker 5: hasn't always been there in recent decades to tell us
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Speaker 5: the whole truth and nothing but the truth, anything but
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Speaker 5: Increasing the difficulties was the fact that the Fabians themselves
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Speaker 5: their original crest many of you may know this was
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Speaker 5: in fact a wolf in sheep's clothing, so their objectives
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Speaker 5: were overtly cloaked. They didn't mean the public to know
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Speaker 5: too much about them, I think, and so I set off,
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Speaker 5: armed with critical thinking in search of information. And some
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Speaker 5: of this information, much of it you can find in
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Speaker 5: the article that I wrote for UK column, and from
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Speaker 5: that you can glean that the Fabian Society has broadly
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Speaker 5: three main policies, three main parts to its agenda, and
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Speaker 5: one is indicated in the title of the article, the
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Speaker 5: creation of a new world order. That means the destruction,
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Speaker 5: doesn't it of the status quo. And we can see
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Speaker 5: this exemplified in the stained glass window currently in the
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Speaker 5: London School of Economics, that was one of the places
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Speaker 5: I did post graduate studies. You can see it exemplified
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Speaker 5: in the stained glass window that was designed by none
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Speaker 5: other than playwright Bernard Shaw. Now, if you look carefully,
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Speaker 5: you can see two characters on the right. Let's just
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Speaker 5: go back to the stained glass window. In terms of
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Speaker 5: the image, there are two figures there on the right.
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Speaker 5: They are destroying the world, and the man on the
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Speaker 5: right in green is Bernard Shaw, and lurking behind you
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Speaker 5: may cast a glimpse is that prest of the wolf
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Speaker 5: in sheep's clothing? So this is their gender to destroy
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Speaker 5: the world and create something different. What tools have they
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Speaker 5: been using? Well, brand has mentioned immigration and that has
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Speaker 5: been it seems a major, major, major tool in their weaponry.
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Speaker 5: And so former Fabian Fabian Society chair Roy Jenkins, some
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Speaker 5: of you may remember him. He promoted multiculturalism and cultural diversity,
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Speaker 5: so called deprioritizing the indigenous culture and such an agenda
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Speaker 5: was followed by the Blair Brown administrations. And some commentators
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Speaker 5: have suggested that Fabian labor policy, because that's what we
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Speaker 5: have to call it. I think Fabian Labor policy was
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Speaker 5: designed to actually change the ethnic and racial makeup of
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Speaker 5: British society, coming close to an act of genocide. Some
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Speaker 5: people might say, and note that the current Home Secretary,
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Speaker 5: Yvette Cooper, who has been chair of the Scottish Fabian Commissioners,
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Speaker 5: is sitting there as Home Secretary and I don't see
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Speaker 5: too much going on to stop, as Brahan said, the immigration.
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Speaker 5: So that's policy number one creation of a new world order.
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Speaker 5: Policy number two eugenics. Many of the founding members were
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Speaker 5: in favor of a eugenics agenda. Sidney Webb with his
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Speaker 5: wife Beatrice in the Book of nineteen eleven, the Prevention
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Speaker 5: of Destitution. In a chapter of that book, they advocated
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Speaker 5: eugenics approach to solve the problems of poverty bernature. Briefly,
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Speaker 5: a lecture at the Eugenic Education Society, he wrote that
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Speaker 5: this is his quote, nothing but a eugenic religion can
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Speaker 5: save our civilization from the fate that has overcome all
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Speaker 5: previous civilizations. And that's not all. Brother of Alders Huxley,
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Speaker 5: Fabian brother Julian Huxley. You can see a photo here.
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Speaker 5: He was former chair of the British Eugenics Society. He
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Speaker 5: even advocated for transhumanism. He actually coined the term transhumanism
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Speaker 5: and the idea that humans could be improved through science
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Speaker 5: and technology.
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Speaker 1: Gloria, I'm going to say thank you very very much
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Speaker 1: for taking us through that we have to move on
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Speaker 1: at the moment. I hope you'll be joining us for
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Speaker 1: extra at the end of the day's news and we
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Speaker 1: can have a look at this in more detail. But
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Speaker 1: you've absolutely taken us through the key things there that
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Speaker 1: basically we've got powers way beyond politics that are driving
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Speaker 1: the policies that are having these disastrous effects on us today.
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Speaker 1: And if we have any viewers who haven't read your
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Speaker 1: article on the UK column website. Encourage people to go
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Speaker 1: and do that. Now, Ben, you're going to take us
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Speaker 1: a bit deeper into this because you've also been looking
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Speaker 1: at the Fabian Tortoise. What have you found?
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Speaker 6: Indeed I have yes, thank you and thank you for
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Speaker 6: a fantastic article, Gloria. That was a great read, and
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Speaker 6: I highly recommend anyone to go and go and have
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Speaker 6: a look at it. I shared it on social media
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Speaker 6: over the weekend and I had some irate London School
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Speaker 6: of Economics graduates in my messages telling me how wrong
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Speaker 6: I was about their beloved Fabian Society. And actually one
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Speaker 6: of the things that you didn't quite get onto in
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Speaker 6: your report there you talked about the wolves in sheep's clothing,
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Speaker 6: which I'm going to come back to, but also the
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Speaker 6: mascot originally of the Fabian Society, or one of the mascots,
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Speaker 6: was the tortoise. Very famously, when I strike, I strike hard,
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Speaker 6: and I believe you can't prove it, but I think
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Speaker 6: that this is probably borne out by the facts behind
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Speaker 6: the scenes, that this is a direct reference that has
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Speaker 6: been made by Tortoise media, who we speak about a
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Speaker 6: lot the independent media organization started in twenty nineteen by
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Speaker 6: some former BBC editors and top OBAMA officials.
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Speaker 7: And what have you.
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Speaker 6: And I think that they are absolutely acting as wolves
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Speaker 6: in sheep's clothing, most notably through the acquisition of The Observer,
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Speaker 6: which we spoke about at the end of last year.
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Speaker 6: So this has now happened, it has been embedded. James
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Speaker 6: Harding from Tortoise Media has given the stirring leadership talk
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Speaker 6: at the Tortoise Media office to the Observer editorial team
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Speaker 6: to bring them on board, tell them about the future
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Speaker 6: direction and actually to show you what I mean by this,
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Speaker 6: like a direct reference to the wolf in sheep's clothing analogy.
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Speaker 6: Let's just have a little look at the daily sense
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Speaker 6: Maker email, which was the flagship piece of communication coming
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Speaker 6: out from Tortoise Media to its subscribers for the past
24:34
Speaker 6: several years. This has now flipped over to the sense
24:39
Speaker 6: Maker at the Observer, so they've done a total switcheroo
24:43
Speaker 6: in the background. The Observer, which has been going for
24:46
Speaker 6: about one hundred and fifty years, the world's I think
24:49
Speaker 6: it was the first Sunday newspaper. Actually, it's been going
24:52
Speaker 6: for an extraordinarily long time, it's got a great reputation.
24:57
Speaker 6: Whether you agree with its politics or not, it is
25:00
Speaker 6: a respected masthead on the news stand and it has
25:03
Speaker 6: now been completely taken over by Tortoise Media. And I
25:07
Speaker 6: think that this is a wolf in sheep's clothing situation.
25:10
Speaker 6: And I suppose my question to observer read is ultimately
25:13
Speaker 6: is do you actually really understand what's happened here? Because
25:16
Speaker 6: I don't think that most of them will understand what's
25:19
Speaker 6: happened here. Because the guy that I've mentioned who established
25:23
Speaker 6: towards media is that man on the left hand side.
25:25
Speaker 6: That's James Harding, former BBC editor. He can be seen
25:29
Speaker 6: here at a Tortoise event from last year, maybe the
25:32
Speaker 6: year before the responsible Ai Forum at Watersdon and wasdone
25:38
Speaker 6: is owned by the Rothschild Foundation. In fact, in his
25:42
Speaker 6: summary of that event he personally thanked Lord Rothschild for
25:46
Speaker 6: the help in establishing the event as a partner. And
25:49
Speaker 6: as we've spoken about many times previously, the counterpart to
25:53
Speaker 6: the Rothschild Foundation in Israel is Yad hannahdev Yad Hannadev
25:58
Speaker 6: was the institutional body that was you to fund the
26:01
Speaker 6: construction of the Israeli Knessets and the Supreme Court, which
26:06
Speaker 6: suggests to me that these wolves, the people currently committing
26:09
Speaker 6: acts of unspeakable atrocity in the Middle East right now
26:14
Speaker 6: and for the past number of decades, are actually now
26:18
Speaker 6: in control of the Observer, and actually beyond that of
26:21
Speaker 6: Guardian Media Group, because Guardian Media Group has gone into
26:25
Speaker 6: a strategic partnership with Tortoise as part of that acquisition.
26:29
Speaker 6: I think that we are looking at a prime example
26:33
Speaker 6: of the wolf in Sheep's clothing methodology, approach tactics. Whether
26:39
Speaker 6: it's a direct Fabian link or not, I think that's
26:41
Speaker 6: what's happening here right with the Observer. And it's not
26:45
Speaker 6: just happening with the Observer. We've also got a similar
26:47
Speaker 6: thing going on at the BBC at the moment. We've
26:49
Speaker 6: spoken about the local Democracy reporter scheme extensively over the
26:55
Speaker 6: past couple of years. I brought them up earlier on
26:57
Speaker 6: this year. They've just announced a new round of of
27:00
Speaker 6: contracts that they put out. One of the people running
27:03
Speaker 6: this that the BBC is saying that the result of
27:05
Speaker 6: this process means that every part of the country will
27:08
Speaker 6: be covered by a local democracy reporter. So the BBC
27:11
Speaker 6: is paying the wages of journalists through one hundred and
27:16
Speaker 6: eighteen separate.
27:17
Speaker 7: Contracts across the whole of the UK.
27:21
Speaker 6: That are then operated that work for other news titles.
27:26
Speaker 6: BBC is the Wolf, the local news titles are the
27:30
Speaker 6: sheep's clothing essentially. Yeah, and the media, whether people realize
27:34
Speaker 6: it or not, is being very aggressively controlled and managed
27:37
Speaker 6: behind the scenes by international capital and the government. And
27:43
Speaker 6: I think we were really good to keep our eye
27:44
Speaker 6: on this.
27:45
Speaker 8: Yeah.
27:45
Speaker 1: And clearly it's way beyond politics, even a uniparty system.
27:51
Speaker 1: We see this thing everywhere and the tentacles are growing.
27:55
Speaker 7: Now.
27:56
Speaker 1: I'm just going to jump ahead to a video where
27:59
Speaker 1: Richard Twice was being asked some questions about immigration, if
28:04
Speaker 1: we could find that one, please, Mike. And the significance
28:08
Speaker 1: of this was that he'd been given quite a hard
28:10
Speaker 1: time where he was ambushed with a question on Ukraine,
28:18
Speaker 1: but eventually he got onto the subject of immigration and
28:21
Speaker 1: let's hear what he said.
28:24
Speaker 9: Great, let's talk about your plans and what you said
28:28
Speaker 9: you wanted to appoint a minister for deportations. I think
28:33
Speaker 9: we've already got one of those, and that's called the
28:35
Speaker 9: Home Structorary. What would you deportations do.
28:38
Speaker 10: Clearly not working. As clearly not working is it, because
28:42
Speaker 10: the reality is the reality is that we've just won
28:46
Speaker 10: by an absolute landslide the elections Thursday last week because
28:52
Speaker 10: people are raging furious about the levels of both illegal
28:57
Speaker 10: and legal immigration in this I mean smashing the gangs
29:02
Speaker 10: is clearly failing. It's encouraging the gangs. We've got over
29:05
Speaker 10: thirty percent more illegal migrants crossing the Channel this year alone,
29:11
Speaker 10: and the quantity of removals is frankly a drop in
29:15
Speaker 10: the ocean. What the Labor Party is now working out
29:19
Speaker 10: and realizing they've got their immigration white paper which come onto,
29:22
Speaker 10: is that they've got a major problem because reform is
29:25
Speaker 10: leading in the polls because people want this issue sorted,
29:28
Speaker 10: They want.
29:29
Speaker 7: The boats to stop.
29:30
Speaker 10: And frankly, I think the majority of this country agree
29:32
Speaker 10: with our policy. We need to freeze immigration because the
29:35
Speaker 10: way to get our economy, To answer your first question,
29:37
Speaker 10: the way to get our economy going is to freeze immigration.
29:41
Speaker 10: Get wages up for British workers, train our own people,
29:44
Speaker 10: get our own people who are economically inactive back into work.
29:47
Speaker 10: We've got nine million people economically inactive in this country.
29:51
Speaker 9: Look, you criticize people like me specifically for not treating
29:56
Speaker 9: you seriously. And I'm quite happy for you to do
29:59
Speaker 9: a victory law and because your people did very well,
30:02
Speaker 9: But that means that, you know, we want to know
30:07
Speaker 9: viewers want to know what it is you would do,
30:11
Speaker 9: so you know, with respect, I'm asking you, what is
30:15
Speaker 9: the meaning of your central plan the Minister for deportation?
30:19
Speaker 9: What would that person do? What past she would she
30:22
Speaker 9: he or she had that the home sectuary doesn't have.
30:26
Speaker 9: How many deportations would you invent?
30:28
Speaker 10: As When Nigel talked about that Minister for Deportations in
30:32
Speaker 10: a press conference a couple of weeks ago, he said,
30:33
Speaker 10: we'd put more meat on a bone, and we'll be
30:35
Speaker 10: having a press conference in the next couple of weeks
30:37
Speaker 10: putting meat on that bone. But the bottom line is
30:40
Speaker 10: people want the people who are here illegally removed. People
30:44
Speaker 10: want foreign criminals who have committed crimes removed full stop.
30:49
Speaker 10: The Labor Party is talking the talk, will they actually
30:51
Speaker 10: walk the walk?
30:54
Speaker 8: Well.
30:55
Speaker 1: I found that exceptionally interesting interview and the point that
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Speaker 1: I'm making by showing the clip is that Richard Tice
31:03
Speaker 1: had the opportunity to be talking about what the real
31:07
Speaker 1: system around migration and immigration is and the scale of it.
31:12
Speaker 7: But he didn't do that.
31:13
Speaker 1: What he's mentioned was the crossing the channel, the boats,
31:16
Speaker 1: the rubber boats coming across the channel, and he's talking
31:19
Speaker 1: about getting rid of immigrants who are in prison. This
31:23
Speaker 1: is a tiny, tiny fraction of the overall problem. And
31:26
Speaker 1: I think the key thing is that we've got to
31:29
Speaker 1: see parties like Reform or any of the other small
31:33
Speaker 1: parties that want to challenge migration and the immigration figures
31:38
Speaker 1: into UK. They've got to be talking about the system
31:41
Speaker 1: as it actually is, the complexities of it and the
31:45
Speaker 1: scale of it. It is no good staying on the
31:48
Speaker 1: emotive subject of rubber boats and prison We've got to
31:51
Speaker 1: be looking at why we have numbers of over seven
31:55
Speaker 1: hundred thousand coming into the country. This is clearly unsustainable.
32:00
Speaker 1: It can't work at any level, be it the NHS,
32:04
Speaker 1: the roads or schools. It cannot work. It is destabilizing
32:09
Speaker 1: the country. So I will be waiting to see whether
32:12
Speaker 1: Richard Tice will actually get a grip of this. But
32:15
Speaker 1: let's remember that if we've got a labor government in
32:18
Speaker 1: post at the moment that originally it was the Conservatives
32:22
Speaker 1: who were talking about their party creating chaos in UK
32:28
Speaker 1: as the means in order to bring in the change agenda.
32:32
Speaker 1: So the change agenda, that baton is with Keir Starmer
32:36
Speaker 1: at the moment, but this baton has also been with
32:39
Speaker 1: the Tory. So this is the Guardian report here, and
32:43
Speaker 1: this is going back around twenty eleven, if my memory
32:46
Speaker 1: serves me correctly, and basically we had the Tory mp
32:51
Speaker 1: warning about the fact that they were going to bring
32:55
Speaker 1: in chaos as a means of changing the country. And
33:00
Speaker 1: that comment by Nick Boles was also reinforced by parliamentary
33:06
Speaker 1: candidate Danny Krueger at the time. So two witnesses saying
33:11
Speaker 1: that chaos was going to be used to change UK.
33:15
Speaker 1: No dialogue of course with the public. And let's bring
33:19
Speaker 1: us to this classic UK column newspaper headline back in
33:24
Speaker 1: the time. I think that's twenty eleven there top right.
33:27
Speaker 1: We labeled the existing incumbents domestic terrorists. We described them
33:32
Speaker 1: as the cabal destroying Britain with big society media gagged,
33:38
Speaker 1: secret courts, the NHS, wrecked military, betrayed, pedophiles being protected,
33:46
Speaker 1: the police threatened, and genocide overseas. All of that, of
33:50
Speaker 1: course only possible with the banking corruption and fraud, and
33:54
Speaker 1: I think we were absolutely spot on. So underneath this
34:00
Speaker 1: to look at what is driving politics and of course
34:03
Speaker 1: alongside the World there Economic Forum, we now know we've
34:07
Speaker 1: got a very powerful Fabian agenda, but of course we've
34:11
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34:14
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Speaker 4: Yes, thanks Brian, this was an interesting conversation for sure.
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Speaker 4: I would like to note that today is a world
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35:27
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Speaker 4: so this is the perfect time to be broadcasting this interview.
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Speaker 1: Brian, Okay, Dane, thank you very much for that. And
36:16
Speaker 1: let's also mention that coming up that's the May Bank Holiday,
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36:26
Speaker 1: We've got the Stand in the Light event. This has
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36:50
Speaker 1: last year that it was wonderful to be able to
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. And I've got another one here Truth
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Speaker 1: to others. This is you, Ben I believe is that correct?
37:17
Speaker 7: It is Brace yourselves.
37:19
Speaker 6: It's truth time on the UK Column and we need
37:23
Speaker 6: some help, so we're going to bring these people in.
37:25
Speaker 6: This was an event that happened last week, truth Tellers
37:28
Speaker 6: the Sir Harry Evans Investigative Journalism Something at twenty twenty five,
37:31
Speaker 6: including Tina Brown, Alasta Campbell, James Carville, Jeffrey Goldberg from
37:36
Speaker 6: the Atlantic Christiana Guru Murphy, James Harding I spoke about
37:40
Speaker 6: earlier and I might bring him back into this in
37:42
Speaker 6: a moment. Animint In Beadows and the economist Samark Thompson,
37:46
Speaker 6: the big beasts of legacy media getting together and basically
37:52
Speaker 6: talking to themselves about each other and doing it in
37:55
Speaker 6: an echo chamber and BBC editors interviewing their own bosses
38:01
Speaker 6: in a room in North London, and you do actually
38:05
Speaker 6: get the sense of these people. Some of them certainly
38:08
Speaker 6: do actually believe what they're saying. You know, they're drinking
38:11
Speaker 6: their own call aid. I think it's so the indoctrination
38:14
Speaker 6: runs incredibly deep. So this was a big show piece
38:18
Speaker 6: event for the international media community. It was held at
38:22
Speaker 6: Reburst at the Royal Institute in British Architects, beautiful building
38:27
Speaker 6: actually slap bang in the middle of media land, basically
38:30
Speaker 6: out of the back door of the BBC studio right,
38:32
Speaker 6: So this was slap bang in the middle of BBC territory.
38:35
Speaker 6: And unsurprisingly they were actively involved in supporting the day
38:38
Speaker 6: as well. So BBC Verify, those great truth tellers that
38:43
Speaker 6: we always bring up on this program, they were supporting
38:46
Speaker 6: it alongside the Observer spoke about earlier who appeared to
38:49
Speaker 6: be controlled in the background by the powers behind the
38:53
Speaker 6: Israeli state, as well as a bunch of philanthropic groups,
38:56
Speaker 6: the post Code Lottery Group, civirid Rousing Trust, the Ford
38:59
Speaker 6: founda who we spoke about earlier on this year, who
39:02
Speaker 6: are heavily invested in the international media ecosystem. There was
39:06
Speaker 6: some actually quite interesting speakers here. They had the Chief
39:09
Speaker 6: executive sub Stack, he was there. That was quite an
39:12
Speaker 6: eye opening session. We'll provide a link. S just going
39:15
Speaker 6: to watch it.
39:16
Speaker 7: Probably not.
39:17
Speaker 6: The whole thing is about eight hours long, but there
39:19
Speaker 6: are a few interesting points, one of which was the
39:23
Speaker 6: one of the flagship sessions about rebooting legacy media. Let's
39:27
Speaker 6: have a little listen to how that was presented.
39:41
Speaker 11: Welcome there shall I John Storry, Captain of the Dying Medium.
40:11
Speaker 5: How long have we been talking?
40:12
Speaker 7: A long time? Let's go like three hours.
40:15
Speaker 8: I got to make a speech.
40:54
Speaker 6: So they're in trouble. Revenues are collapsing, trust is collapsing.
40:58
Speaker 6: AI is disrupting them and let's be honest. It couldn't
41:02
Speaker 6: happen to a nicer bunch of people, could it.
41:06
Speaker 7: It was?
41:07
Speaker 6: It was, It was It was quite a good panel
41:09
Speaker 6: that one. Actually I won't show any clips from the
41:12
Speaker 6: people speaking because there's just too much to go into
41:14
Speaker 6: to be perfectly honest. But it was actually summed up
41:17
Speaker 6: really beautifully by sanniment In Bedos, editor in chief of
41:21
Speaker 6: the Economist. He said, we need to make sure tomorrow's
41:24
Speaker 6: viewers and listeners know about CNN, the BBC, the Economist
41:27
Speaker 6: and know that's where you have to go to get truth.
41:31
Speaker 7: That was her summary at the end.
41:33
Speaker 1: But they are clearly am I allowed to use the
41:37
Speaker 1: expression wetting themselves on UK News? This is really people
41:42
Speaker 1: say to us, where is the good news? Well, today
41:45
Speaker 1: we're giving you the good news because not only are
41:47
Speaker 1: we showing that people are seeing through the political agenda,
41:52
Speaker 1: we're now starting to really dig into the machinery driving
41:56
Speaker 1: this terrible political system that we live in. And here
42:01
Speaker 1: is the media admitting that they are on the ropes.
42:05
Speaker 1: So if people want to know what the good news is,
42:07
Speaker 1: the good news is that the efforts of many, many people,
42:11
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands, millions of people probably over social media
42:15
Speaker 1: is now having a real effect on the legacy media.
42:19
Speaker 1: It's fantastic, then.
42:21
Speaker 7: It is.
42:21
Speaker 6: It's great news. Yeah, they've completely lost control of the narrative.
42:25
Speaker 6: And that panel you had Mark Thompson, sorry, sir Mark
42:29
Speaker 6: Thompson from CNN, who representing the big corporate advertising market.
42:35
Speaker 6: You had dead Returns from the BBC representing effectively the state.
42:40
Speaker 6: People talk about the BBC like it's distinct from government,
42:43
Speaker 6: but it's not. It's just government. Yeah, it's funded through taxation.
42:47
Speaker 6: That's government by definition. Actually, and Zanni ment In Beddos
42:52
Speaker 6: who are mentioned, who effectively represents the global predator class, right,
42:57
Speaker 6: and you know they neglect to mention this stuff.
43:01
Speaker 7: Right.
43:01
Speaker 6: So actually we just jumped back to that video we
43:03
Speaker 6: had deb Returnis presented. She's the chief executive BBC News.
43:07
Speaker 6: She's saying that AI distortion is the new threat to
43:10
Speaker 6: trusted information.
43:11
Speaker 7: It's the AI. My view is it's no, it's the.
43:14
Speaker 6: BBC actually, which is a threat to trusted information. Similar
43:19
Speaker 6: thing with Mark Thompson. He's saying that there's a revolution happening.
43:24
Speaker 6: I'm not particularly bothered what he has to say about
43:26
Speaker 6: the media, to be honest with you, what I'd like
43:28
Speaker 6: to know is what he knew about Jimmy Saville when
43:31
Speaker 6: he was Director General of the BBC. That would be
43:33
Speaker 6: a good place to start if we were really interested
43:35
Speaker 6: in truth. You know, I think that would be a
43:37
Speaker 6: good question to ask Mark Thompson, but that wasn't getting
43:40
Speaker 6: asked at the Truth Teller's conference. And then finally Zanni
43:44
Speaker 6: Old Zanni Menton Bedos, editor in chief of The Economist
43:48
Speaker 6: and essentially a member of the global predator class herself. No,
43:53
Speaker 6: she doesn't just represent their interest like she goes to
43:55
Speaker 6: the Builderberg meetings basically every year.
43:58
Speaker 10: Right.
43:59
Speaker 6: I'm not sure if she's a the steering committee for it.
44:01
Speaker 6: She may well have been at some point, but you know,
44:03
Speaker 6: that's whose interest she's representing. And that's before you dig
44:06
Speaker 6: into the fact that The Economist itself is twenty six
44:10
Speaker 6: percent owned by the Rothschild family, forty six percent owned
44:14
Speaker 6: something like that by the Ignal, the Agnelli family, the
44:17
Speaker 6: Italian industrialist.
44:18
Speaker 7: So this is the voice of institutions, the establishment.
44:23
Speaker 6: I'm talking about the woes that they are currently experiencing. Right,
44:30
Speaker 6: So this was the kind of the meta narrative, the
44:33
Speaker 6: big top level story, but also local news, hugely, hugely important.
44:40
Speaker 6: They're reporting here that it's been decimated. Two local newspapers
44:45
Speaker 6: are closing every week on average. This is a huge
44:50
Speaker 6: threat to civil liberties. There is a total vacuum that's
44:55
Speaker 6: appeared around scrutiny of politicians. Voters are feeling disenfranchised, corruption
45:02
Speaker 6: is on the rise, and divisions are appearing in society.
45:08
Speaker 6: And again, what they failed to mention is that most
45:11
Speaker 6: of this stuff is being caused by the people behind
45:13
Speaker 6: this conference, certainly the people behind.
45:15
Speaker 7: The three titles that I was just talking to.
45:16
Speaker 6: Talking about a moment ago, right, they used to term
45:19
Speaker 6: a news desert where green shoots are sprouting up. We
45:22
Speaker 6: talked about organizations like the mill previously up in the
45:25
Speaker 6: top left there, who done a great job of savaging
45:28
Speaker 6: Rajamir's reputation up in Manchester, was pointing out what was
45:33
Speaker 6: going on with the grooming gangs. But apparently there is
45:35
Speaker 6: a renaissance happening around local news. And to find out
45:39
Speaker 6: a bit about how that's actually happening, let's now listen
45:43
Speaker 6: to the chief executive of the Bureau of Investigative Journalism, A.
45:47
Speaker 7: Razina Breen.
45:50
Speaker 12: You're, folks focusing on a more collaborative form of journalism.
45:53
Speaker 12: You go out, you find communities, you involve yourself with them.
45:59
Speaker 12: This is a new model which you've sort of been
46:02
Speaker 12: one of the pioneers of getting that impact through. Can
46:06
Speaker 12: you take us through what brought that new way of
46:10
Speaker 12: thinking how journalism can work.
46:12
Speaker 13: I mean, the Bureau has a long time history of
46:15
Speaker 13: innovation since before my day, and we do UK investigations,
46:20
Speaker 13: international investigations and local investigations. And I really wanted to
46:24
Speaker 13: start with a quote by Terry Albury, who is on
46:27
Speaker 13: a panel at the Logan's Symposium where Akash and I
46:30
Speaker 13: were last week. He's the FBI whistleblower. He said, the
46:33
Speaker 13: fire has always been there, we just haven't been paying attention.
46:37
Speaker 13: And I think there are fires across every constituency across
46:41
Speaker 13: the UK, and so accountability journalism really matters. And the
46:46
Speaker 13: thing that really I think about is who are we
46:49
Speaker 13: working alongside in order to surface the stories. Often we
46:54
Speaker 13: might parachute into locality to tell the story where we
46:57
Speaker 13: know what the top line is. Yet if you go
47:00
Speaker 13: into communities and ask the questions that will inform where
47:04
Speaker 13: the accountability gap is so one there is an editorial
47:08
Speaker 13: reason for doing what we do. And the second is
47:11
Speaker 13: I was really struck by and on the first panel
47:14
Speaker 13: who was talking about audience relevant. We have a crisis
47:18
Speaker 13: in trust in public institutions in the UK. That's across politics,
47:22
Speaker 13: that's also across the media. People feel disenfranchised. You know,
47:26
Speaker 13: I was running the largest network newsroom outside of London.
47:30
Speaker 13: I started that job on the week of the EU
47:32
Speaker 13: referendum for the BBC. We were an output that was
47:36
Speaker 13: very close to the audience and so we felt that
47:38
Speaker 13: the vote would go Brexit. I'm not making a political point,
47:41
Speaker 13: but politics is about policy and policy is about people.
47:44
Speaker 13: So unless we are actively working with people not to
47:48
Speaker 13: follow an agenda, but to follow the fact, we're not
47:50
Speaker 13: going to bring them along with us. And civic engagement
47:54
Speaker 13: skills spotting miss and disinformation has never been more important.
47:59
Speaker 13: So there is a way of approaching journalism that can
48:03
Speaker 13: be meaningful and holistic and not worthy, but actually community
48:08
Speaker 13: trust is everything, especially today.
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Speaker 1: Well, Ben I did sit here chuckling while that video
48:16
Speaker 1: clip was running to hear Razina Breen. I think the
48:19
Speaker 1: lady's name is there saying, well, to be proper journalists,
48:24
Speaker 1: we've got to get out there and track stories down
48:27
Speaker 1: and it's better if we actually meet the people, and
48:29
Speaker 1: it's better if we tell the truth. She's just discovered this.
48:35
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing what's coming out of this lady's mouth.
48:40
Speaker 1: Because basically any journalist should know that if you want
48:43
Speaker 1: to be reporting correctly, you've got to engage with people,
48:48
Speaker 1: you've got to check the sources of your information. But
48:50
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, she's just discovered this after working
48:54
Speaker 1: I think it was with the BBC News room, Yeah,
48:57
Speaker 1: about fifteen years ago. The stupidity and the arrogance of
49:03
Speaker 1: these people is breastaking, but more good news because she's
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Speaker 1: admitting that bij As, one of the media companies, is
49:14
Speaker 1: also on the roads.
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Speaker 6: It is on the roads, but also this very odd model.
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Speaker 6: So that was Judi Grieg I think his name is,
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Speaker 6: the editor of The Independent, who asked her the question
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Speaker 6: to start there. It says, are you're developing this new model,
49:25
Speaker 6: and there is this new model emerging. Essentially she's based
49:29
Speaker 6: inside the M twenty five, right, So you've got these
49:33
Speaker 6: investigative supposedly investigative journalist institutions of which the viewerau of
49:38
Speaker 6: Investigative Journalism is one example, right, And there's a bunch
49:41
Speaker 6: of these that sit in the Metropolitan Center and then
49:44
Speaker 6: they kind of go in to communities and she actually
49:48
Speaker 6: used the word parachute in. We go in there and
49:52
Speaker 6: we correct disinformation and misinformation, and we basically engage in
49:56
Speaker 6: narrative reinforcement. I really don't think she understands it like that, right,
50:00
Speaker 6: But if you go and look at their website, you
50:02
Speaker 6: know you can pull these things apart very very quickly.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: So this is the Bureau of Investigative Journalism homepage. What's
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Speaker 6: the big story. It's the poor content moderators at Meta
50:14
Speaker 6: all right, so the people that are centering your speech,
50:18
Speaker 6: we need to feel sorry for them essentially, right, And
50:21
Speaker 6: you know, it's all about enforcing reinforcing the climate change narrative,
50:26
Speaker 6: the censorship narrative.
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Speaker 7: And they're working with the Independent, they're working.
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Speaker 6: With the Guardian. You can see the logos at the
50:31
Speaker 6: bottom of the screen there. Yeah, so this is kind
50:34
Speaker 6: of like these titles of outsourced investigative work to a
50:39
Speaker 6: third party, and then that work is then being presented
50:43
Speaker 6: back as if it's come from that title. This feels
50:47
Speaker 6: a little bit like that kind of wolf in sheep's
50:49
Speaker 6: clothing thing I was talking about before. Right, And then
50:51
Speaker 6: you go and look at who's funding this, well, blind me,
50:55
Speaker 6: it's the Bill and millin the Gates Foundation and it's
50:58
Speaker 6: the Joseph Rowntree Foundation and nan Kelly Chase and also
51:02
Speaker 6: Open Societies, Paul Hamlin, the Pairs Foundation, and we spoke
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Speaker 6: about a couple of weeks ago who are very very
51:09
Speaker 6: closely involved with full Fact and extraordinarily powerful.
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Speaker 11: Right.
51:12
Speaker 6: These are the people that want to own truth and
51:14
Speaker 6: they have flooded what should be a pure space of
51:20
Speaker 6: investigative journalism and taking complete ownership of it.
51:23
Speaker 5: Right.
51:23
Speaker 6: And actually local news is now completely owned by global capital,
51:29
Speaker 6: just like the rest.
51:30
Speaker 7: Of the mainstream media ecosystem.
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Speaker 1: The lid's coming off, though, Ben and reinforce that for
51:37
Speaker 1: viewers Monday the twelfth and May twenty twenty five. We
51:40
Speaker 1: have got the legacy media admitting it's on the rope.
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Speaker 1: So let's keep the initiative going. And if you're not
51:48
Speaker 1: supporting UK column, support UK column and help us put
51:52
Speaker 1: more pressure on the team. Now, Diane, let's bring you
51:56
Speaker 1: back and grease guys in the Today. But other people
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Speaker 1: very concerned at what they see in the sky.
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Speaker 4: Yes, understandably so, Brian, Mike, if we could just please
52:10
Speaker 4: scroll through some photographs that I'd like to show the
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Speaker 4: viewers before I talked about this. These were some photos
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Speaker 4: that were sent to UK column from a member down
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Speaker 4: in Kent, and there's a variety of photos here from
52:24
Speaker 4: the Maidstone areas you can see there. This particular person
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Speaker 4: sent these to us because he wanted us to expose
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Speaker 4: what he observes as going on. But what I want
52:35
Speaker 4: to do is sort of as Ben mentioned, BBC Verify
52:38
Speaker 4: and Marianna Spring as viewers might remember, we have UK
52:42
Speaker 4: se Verify. So I'm starting to bring this back to
52:44
Speaker 4: actually verify what is really going on as we look
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Speaker 4: at these photos. Yes, we can see that there are
52:49
Speaker 4: white lines in the skies, but can we verify what
52:52
Speaker 4: is actually happening in the UK skuys or can we
52:54
Speaker 4: possibly verify what's going on in the skies in other countries.
52:58
Speaker 4: So this viewer wrote to his in p about his
53:03
Speaker 4: concern about kim trails that he was seeing, as documented
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Speaker 4: by his own photographs here, and he sent along this
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Speaker 4: official letter which he got in response. And so Helen
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Speaker 4: Brandt is his MP and Grant got a response back
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Speaker 4: from Kerry McCarthy, who is the Ministry for a Climate
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Speaker 4: from the Department of Energy Security and net zero. So
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Speaker 4: I just want to read out this letter. It says
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Speaker 4: Dear Helen, thank you for your email to the Department
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Speaker 4: of Environment for Rural Affairs to September on behalf of
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Speaker 4: a constituent regarding chemical sprain brackets chim trails in the
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Speaker 4: UK airspace. Your correspondence has been passed to this department
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Speaker 4: and I am responding as this matter fails falls under
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Speaker 4: my ministerial portfolio. There's no deliberate chemical spring activid Gore
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Speaker 4: Guy anywhere in UK airspace. Apart from regulated aerial spring
53:52
Speaker 4: of pesticides and herbicides and agricultural practices. Prop spring is
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Speaker 4: always carried out at low altitude. Further details can be
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Speaker 4: out at this link. We'll come back to that, and
54:02
Speaker 4: she went on to say there is no deliberate chemical
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Speaker 4: spring activity going on. Again. She says chemical pen trails
54:08
Speaker 4: is a term some people apply to contrails short for
54:12
Speaker 4: the white condensation trails seen behind aircraft, to claim evidence
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Speaker 4: of deliberate chemical spring in the atmosphere. Contrails are caused
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Speaker 4: by the water vapor contained in hot exhaust gases condensing
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Speaker 4: in the high cold atmosphere where aircraft fly. More information
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Speaker 4: on this can be found in an article on the
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Speaker 4: government website. So let's take a look at these two
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Speaker 4: links that she linked to in her letter. The first
54:34
Speaker 4: one is about aerial spraying permit arrangements. This is from
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Speaker 4: the Health and Safety Executive. This is about basically how
54:41
Speaker 4: you regulate aerial spring for plant growth for example, and
54:45
Speaker 4: they give a template of what that might look like.
54:49
Speaker 4: I've got a sort of a screenshot of that as well,
54:52
Speaker 4: which just shows what it looks like if we are
54:54
Speaker 4: talking about this is how we apply to give a
54:57
Speaker 4: particular spray to make particular or plants grow. So that
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Speaker 4: is one thing that she's got there, that sample application plan.
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Speaker 4: The other thing that she leaked to was a website
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Speaker 4: from UK Department for Transport and this is where they
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Speaker 4: answer some questions about what they consider to be kim
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Speaker 4: trails contrails and you can read the entire linth of
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Speaker 4: will BEUTA show notes and it asks what exhaust gases
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Speaker 4: do aircraft emit? As well as water vapor, the primary
55:27
Speaker 4: exhaust emission. Dead engines emit carbon dioxide, small amounts of
55:30
Speaker 4: unvert hydrocarbons, oxides of detrogen dute particles, and CARBONI monoxides.
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Speaker 4: So such emissions are regulated by the International Aviation Organization.
55:40
Speaker 4: According to some reports. The next question asked chem trails
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Speaker 4: contain barium or compounds of aluminium and silicon, often called aluminiosilicates,
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Speaker 4: and they said, we have no credible evidence of the
55:52
Speaker 4: release of chem trails, but aluminosilicates are common in clay
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Speaker 4: soils and a wide range of other memorials. Therefore, measurements
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Speaker 4: in air and soil are dominated by the ground level
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Speaker 4: sources of aluminium silicates. The hard word to say. The
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Speaker 4: last LAS assessment of emissions from aircraft can be found
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Speaker 4: in the most recent National Atmospheric Emissions Inventory report, and
56:13
Speaker 4: the final questions are are there any ill health effects
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Speaker 4: caused by contrails? There's no evidence that contrails cause health
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Speaker 4: problems at the altitude that they are produced. The oxides
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Speaker 4: of dartrig in, a particular matter, which can cause respiratory problems,
56:26
Speaker 4: become dispersed. And if the contrails impact on climate change,
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Speaker 4: resistant contrails serious formed by aircraft can't affect the reflection
56:34
Speaker 4: of solar radiation and therefore have an impact on the
56:36
Speaker 4: Earth's climate. Now that a report that I mentioned that
56:40
Speaker 4: wouldn't in that response, we can look at that website.
56:43
Speaker 4: There are just various reports about greenhouse gases, carbon capture
56:46
Speaker 4: and all of the other propaganda related to a climate scam. Now,
56:51
Speaker 4: what was interesting was something else that was claimed in
56:54
Speaker 4: this email from the viewer who sent this to us.
56:58
Speaker 4: They have the information that office had been involved in
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Speaker 4: over one hundred and thirty weather modification experiments that was
57:04
Speaker 4: reported in August of twenty twenty four. Now, depending on
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Speaker 4: the search terms that I use to check this on
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Speaker 4: Google's AI just to see what Google would say. It
57:13
Speaker 4: first said my first search that the office revealed that
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Speaker 4: a large number of weather experiments exceeding one hundred and
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Speaker 4: thirty were actively UNDERWIGH in UK. But if you look
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Speaker 4: at my next search using slightly different words, it says
57:25
Speaker 4: in August twenty twenty four, the Met Office did not
57:27
Speaker 4: specifically reveal one hundred and thirty weather modification events. So
57:32
Speaker 4: we have conflicting information and so we have to really
57:36
Speaker 4: watch what the AI summaries tell us. The Met Office
57:39
Speaker 4: claims that atmospherical application and geo engineering does take place
57:43
Speaker 4: in terms of research. They are talking about computer modeling.
57:47
Speaker 4: They're claiming that they do not engage in adding substances
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Speaker 4: to the atmosphere in order to modify it. And the
57:52
Speaker 4: difference between geo engineering is that g engineering is the
57:56
Speaker 4: larger issue of where they're trying to impact on climate
57:59
Speaker 4: change and wether mupiplication. That is very specific local actions
58:03
Speaker 4: such as cloud seating, which does alter the weather. So
58:07
Speaker 4: the Telegraph reported back in twenty twenty four that in
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Speaker 4: Dubai there was a full year's rainfall that happened in
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Speaker 4: one day and they've talked to some people from the
58:19
Speaker 4: UAES Meteorology Service and that was said, well, they believed
58:24
Speaker 4: that it was in fact caused by cloud seating. Now
58:28
Speaker 4: who was doing the cloud seating was a group of
58:29
Speaker 4: British academics from the University of Reading, and so they
58:35
Speaker 4: can't say year. They haven't said that this cloud seating
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Speaker 4: is taking place here in the UK, but they are
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Speaker 4: fully aware and admitting that they were responsible for the
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Speaker 4: cloud seating. Let's take a look at a video from
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Speaker 4: Professor Martin Enbam from the University of Reading saying what
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Speaker 4: he had to say about this event.
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Speaker 8: It is indeed true that that in the Emirates and
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Speaker 8: there's an operational cloud heating program, and then it's clear
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Speaker 8: for an arid region like that, they really want to
59:03
Speaker 8: target the few clouds that they have and to make
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Speaker 8: those clouds rain, because quite a lot of the time
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Speaker 8: those clouds do not produce rain in this particular case,
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Speaker 8: In fact, no clouds heating occurred in this particular case.
59:16
Speaker 8: It was a well predicted storm. People knew there would
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Speaker 8: be severe rain, the authorities and the Emirates knew there
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Speaker 8: would be strong rain, and they did not do any
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Speaker 8: seating operation during this particular event.
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Speaker 4: So he's not playing any responsibility. However, there are different
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Speaker 4: opinions on that. We can see. Back in twenty seventeen,
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Speaker 4: the University of Reading started or I believe this was
59:41
Speaker 4: the start of the funding from this UAE organization which
59:45
Speaker 4: is called the Research Program for Rain Enhancement Science or
59:49
Speaker 4: UAE REP as the acronym, and so we can see
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Speaker 4: them there in the UI participating in this. Here's an
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Speaker 4: example of publication with Professor Ambambas one of the author
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Speaker 4: is providing charge and mission for cloud seating aircraft. Basically,
1:00:04
Speaker 4: the first sense of the abstract says that this such
1:00:07
Speaker 4: as fog and clouds, offers a route to influence these properties.
1:00:11
Speaker 4: So what they're doing is trying to influence the natural
1:00:14
Speaker 4: abilities and and things that fog and clouds do for us.
1:00:18
Speaker 4: The u a REP is a large funding program that
1:00:20
Speaker 4: clouds research around the world that where these these different
1:00:24
Speaker 4: countries and research troops will come in and literally do
1:00:27
Speaker 4: the cloud seeding to make rain happen in Dubai and
1:00:30
Speaker 4: throughout the u a E. You can see to receive
1:00:32
Speaker 4: the strategic plan there where they're talking about being globally
1:00:35
Speaker 4: globally recognized research, but they do benefit it from themselves obviously,
1:00:41
Speaker 4: and here we see more evidence of them talking about
1:00:43
Speaker 4: globalism and going into you and organizations and what we're
1:00:48
Speaker 4: doing with the overall climate agenda. So just to to
1:00:51
Speaker 4: the second this particular segment, I have a video here
1:00:55
Speaker 4: from a u a REP YouTube channel. Here's a professor
1:00:59
Speaker 4: Roelpberger in South Africa and he's talking about this issue. Roll.
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Speaker 14: Thanks so much, DEEPU time really appreciate you're sitting with
1:01:08
Speaker 14: us here. And look, you don't need me to tell
1:01:11
Speaker 14: you that uae REP marking decade ten years of advancing
1:01:18
Speaker 14: rain enhancement science. But given your international global perspective as well,
1:01:24
Speaker 14: just wonder whether you could sort of reflect on the achievements.
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Speaker 9: Of ua REP in the last ten years.
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Speaker 14: But also the impact is having on global thinking when
1:01:33
Speaker 14: it comes to rain announcement.
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Speaker 15: No, I agree with you. Over the last ten years,
1:01:37
Speaker 15: the UAE has not only been advancing rain announcement science,
1:01:41
Speaker 15: but it's really transformed our understanding of the atmosphere. It's
1:01:45
Speaker 15: been driving innovative solutions to some of our most pressing
1:01:49
Speaker 15: problems like water scarcity and climate resilience, and especially it's
1:01:54
Speaker 15: been doing that through science, cutting edge technology, and global collaboration. So,
1:02:03
Speaker 15: for example, I think one of the things that is
1:02:07
Speaker 15: most exciting to me about this project is it's exemplifying
1:02:12
Speaker 15: how we should be approaching these very sticky context problems,
1:02:16
Speaker 15: and that is through transformative science. And if you look
1:02:21
Speaker 15: at the program, every aspect of it is dripping with science.
1:02:25
Speaker 15: From the very competitive funding calls the science independent scientific oversight,
1:02:31
Speaker 15: to the drive of the program to make sure that
1:02:35
Speaker 15: the results get published.
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Speaker 7: It's really transformative. It's lovely to hear.
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Speaker 4: That, But so what do you think, Brian, is that
1:02:46
Speaker 4: lovely to hear?
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Speaker 1: It's very interesting to hear. I'm going to say thank
1:02:51
Speaker 1: you very much for putting together this segment. There's a
1:02:54
Speaker 1: lot more to talk on it, am I reassured by
1:02:57
Speaker 1: saying it's dripping with science. Not reassured at all, and
1:03:02
Speaker 1: I don't think many people in our audience would be.
1:03:05
Speaker 1: But Diane, we're at at the end of the news,
1:03:08
Speaker 1: so just give you ten seconds to sum up on this.
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Speaker 1: We can talk about it more in Extra coming up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess just to say that this is obviously
1:03:19
Speaker 4: part of the global agenda, and hopefully an extra we
1:03:23
Speaker 4: will talk about the wonderful weekend of weather that we
1:03:25
Speaker 4: had and what happens in the media as a result
1:03:28
Speaker 4: of this amazing weather we had this weekend to join
1:03:31
Speaker 4: us for Extra.
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Speaker 1: Okay, thank you, thank you very much for that. Well,
1:03:36
Speaker 1: there's a lot of questions to be asked around this,
1:03:38
Speaker 1: and we will stay on the case. But of course
1:03:40
Speaker 1: it's one of many ways in which world population are
1:03:44
Speaker 1: being attacked, and we have to make sure that we
1:03:47
Speaker 1: keep our eyes on all the balls that are causing
1:03:50
Speaker 1: us problems in today's world twenty twenty five. We must
1:03:54
Speaker 1: end there, so Diane and Ben, thank you very much
1:03:58
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thank you also to less a glorium
1:04:00
Speaker 1: moss for UK column members. We will have Extra in
1:04:05
Speaker 1: a few minutes and we'll continue a little bit more
1:04:08
Speaker 1: with some of the spraying Saga and also of course
1:04:13
Speaker 1: the Fabian so join us for that as it for
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Speaker 1: today's news. Huge thank you to everyone who's watched, wherever
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Speaker 1: you are in the world. Bye bye.