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S3 E2: NFL Draft Preview · Nickel City Crew Podcast

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Fifteen degrees. You can see your breath out in the lake effect, breaking
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tables like it. Where else would you have to be? And to Ron
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Elvis and the lay Panchow, remember that you need to know I hold you
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out here now, your family? Where else would you happy? Where else
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would you? Welcome into the Nickel City Crew. I am your host,
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Rob Crippin. Please like us on Facebook and follow us on Instagram and Twitter
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glad that you're joining us for some of your Buffalo Bills and NFL content again
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today, and as always, these are my Bill's thoughts set out loud.
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It's about so ridiculous. Eighty three was sick shout? Where else would you
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want to be? All right, let's get straight to it. Excited about
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tonight's episode, Season three, Episode two, I'm just ecstatic. I mean,
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this is like it's a fun time of year, man, when you
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look at the calendar in the NFL offseason and then the draft comes up tomorrow
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night, and it's just like an influx of talent and new people across new
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players, excuse me, across all thirty two teams, and it's just like
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a lot of just renewed sense of hope and just opportunity and you know,
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young guys. And then after the draft, you've got the undrafted free agents
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who are are chasing their dreams still as well, and they get signed and
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picked up by team. So this is a fun time of year. I'm
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excited about it. I am not a draft nut, as I talked with
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my co host Free Show about it, you know, I mean, I'm
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just not like a guy that's going to dip into all of the names and
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know every single little thing about all of these guys. And one of the
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reasons it's because it's a crapshoot. Like it's really really, really hard,
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and it's kind of like just grabbing a couple of lot of tickets and you
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just you see what's going on. You can't win the lotto unless you play.
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So the Bills are getting ready to play the lotto tomorrow. Maybe we'll
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get up from the picks that we have. We've got six picks. Maybe
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Brandon Bean trades a couple of them or or some futures and moves up,
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but we'll find out what they get ready to do. But tomorrow night,
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the NFL Draft gets center stage right there in Kansas City and it should be
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a fun event. Joining me tonight as always my co host Adam Dump Truck
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Rupsick Holad the crew DT. What's good? Which it's been a minute.
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We are all of our break officially, we we we were done. We're
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our wounds have been healed. We're ready to move on. Yeah, nigga,
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little city, what's up? Rob? Gonna be back, man,
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It's gonna be back. I it kind of snuck up on us. You
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know, it was that numb time for a while, and just getting through
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the rest of winter, and you know that that breaking weather in the into
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the spring, just uh, you know, your mind gets focused on other
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things and then all of a sudden, you know, football's back. Just
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when you're about to forget about it, she comes back. And how are
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you doing? Man? How you back? Man? I cannot complain.
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Man, I'm really excited as season three gets kicked off. And I know
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we kicked off the episode um episode one a few weeks ago, but you
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know last month. I mean, I'm just excited, man, I mean
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like you you you, you took the words out of my mouth. DT,
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it snuck back up on you. And like football just consumes so much
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DT where it just really isn't really much of an off season. As soon
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as the super Bowl is done by like March or April, the bills are
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already emailing you, getting ready to letting you know that your first payment's coming
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out for your season tickets. So like there really is no downtime. Like's
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it's a situation where we really did need that break. So I appreciate the
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break. I appreciate the fans of Nickel City crew. I know where our
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crew has grown a little bit, and I appreciate you guys being patient with
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us. We haven't really recorded since episode one of season three a month ago,
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but we needed that break, and DT the tape, you know,
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the page is turn like it's it's time. Twenty twenty three is upon us.
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Man. The off season's kind of gone through. We've talked about some
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of the moves and some of the different things we told you that we would
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interrupt your regular scheduled program or something crazy happened. Nothing really crazy happened.
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Lamar is still you know, sitting there you know, under the exclusive franchise
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tag that he has not signed. Nothing really crazy has happened other than obviously
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somebody, you know, mister Rogers coming to the neighborhood to hear in the
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AFC East that we'll talk about later. But DT man, like the seasons
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upon like before you know it, the fella is going to be heading out
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to Pittsburgh. Man will be helpless head enough to Saint John Fisher before you
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know it, may before you can blink an eye, would be summer.
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Yeah, yeah, And that's kind of you know why you mentioned in the
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beginning of the show. And you know, you and me aren't the biggest
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like draft boffs if you will, Like we'll get into it a little tonight
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and you know, see what's out there. But that's probably why we you
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know, we take that shutdown. We take that break somewhat just like the
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players do, you know, right with the season ends, and take that
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time off. Yeah, yeah, exactly as opposed to just studying the draft
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and learning all these dudes like take a little time off. But you know,
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make no mistake, Nicola City crew, we're back now and and we're
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gonna be focused in just as the Bills organization is and uh, you know,
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we'll be tomorrow night. So yeah, like you said, we got
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we got this. And then right after the draft is the schedule release,
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which is gonna be you know, big for us with you know, with
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playing games to go to and what games you're coming up to and everything between
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with that, and then man, we're we're going to piss for for for
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training camp and after that basically there's no break in between there. So it
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goes right right into the preseason, right into the season, and we'll come
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up. But it was kind of it was kind of nice not thinking about
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football because you weren't count days down and now it's here, and now you're
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gonna be all football and it's gonna go a little slower now because you count
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days. So yeah, you're absolutely right, we're back to counting days for
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sure. The NFL Draft tomorrow night, eight o'clock on ESPN and NFL Network
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and I'm sure you know, obviously Twitter and a whole bunch of other places
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you can catch some of the coverage of the NFL Draft. You know.
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One of the things about it, and it's funny that we talked about a
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pre show DT is one of the main reasons why I'm not, you know,
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a draft nut or whatever the case may be, or what if you
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want to call it, it's just because of the fact a draft nerd,
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because just like a lot of people just don't have a damn clue what they
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are talking about. And one of the funniest things to me dt that I
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wanted to kind of throw out there to you, was kind of like,
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how how we rip these not we, but how sometimes the media will rip
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these prospects down. They'll build them up and then they'll rip them down,
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and you know, it just it was funny because when I'm watching all this
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CJ. Stroud stuff and Will Levis and he's shooting up the draft boards all
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of a sudden out of nowhere at the end of the draft process. It's
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just been funny to me because you know, like I'm thinking about Cam Newton
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back, you know, I'm down here in Charlotte, and I remember like
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how they said his smile was disingenuous, and it's like, who in the
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ham sandwhich is my father would say, would be able to tell that your
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smile was disingenuous and that you didn't mean to really smile the way that you
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were. But like throughout the process, man, they'll they'll bring these guys
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up, they'll build them up DT and then they would tear them down.
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I mean I heard, you know, Ship talked about CJ. Strout and
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he's supposed to be the number two guy all draft process, and then all
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of a sudden, oh, he didn't do something with the naming camp and
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he's not coachable, and then all of a sudden he's you know, being
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mocked, you know, way lower now. And it's just crazy how this
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this whole process goes because no other professionals have to go through this, no
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other professionals. You could be neurologists, you could be a doctor, you
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could be a lawyer. Nobody's going to tell you where you're going to go
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work. Now. You may make decisions and understand that, Hey, if
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I'm going to be on TV as a meteorologist, I might have to go
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and move to Iowa and move to Nebraska and move around before I actually get
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to my hub where I really want to be in Atlanta or one of the
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major markets. But like that's a decision that you made, Like nobody forced
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you to do that. These guys have zero opportunity to make a change on
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where they're going. Everything will be decided for them tomorrow night. And it's
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just a crazy it's just a crazy process. DT, it's crazy to me.
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Yeah, but Rob the other end of that stick of not having the
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choices, do you know, Yeah, the director positive every Tuesday. You
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know, we'll give you, we'll give you a million. But you're coming
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to your coming to Albuquerque Auque. Yeah, but you talked to the actual
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breakdown of these guys is crazy to the microscope. And but that's what it's
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got to beat. You're coming into the biggest entertainment show in the world,
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and that's right, the biggest, fastest, strongest dudes and you gotta be
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you gotta be elite with them. And that's right. Our our main guy
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seventeen went through the heavy draft process. You know, it's not he stinks.
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You know all this and every every story ever, you know, comes
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like that when when it comes to the NFL Draft. So it'll be interesting
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when you know, getting away from the draft, like study, the Bills
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aren't picking in the top ten anymore. Rob, you know, we don't
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we don't got to know these top ten know these trophy guys like, you
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know, build, build the team in the late rounds, and that's what
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all good teams do. So we don't got to study these top ten picks
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because we haven't been there late. We used to be. That's all we
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did, right. We were definitely a little more definitely a little more draft
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savvy back in the in the draft, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
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arguing about Aaron Maybin versus yeah, rying a rack photo and all the
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j Manuel Yeah, j Manuel versus Derek Carr and all these other comparisons,
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and trying to figure out what you're gonna do and what your team is gonna
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pull the trigger on. It's funny because, you know, the draft,
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as much as it is a crapshoot, being at the end of the draft,
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it kind of takes out some of the you know, you know,
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some of the you know, so to speak, like the speculation, you
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know what I mean, so to speak, like there's there's a lot of
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scenarios that you know are not gonna happen. And I you know, you
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know that I'm a w w GR listener, avid listener all the time,
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and I'm on the wide receiver train and and you know, I'm ready to
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go and I want a receiver in round one or two. But it's been
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funny to kind of listen to some of the rhetoric because like some of the
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guys that they're talking about they're hoping for is the Flowers and you know,
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you know, you know, Jackson Smith, the Jigbell, Like, like,
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these guys are gonna be long gone by the time the Bills are up
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on the clock around eleven thirty at night Tomorrow night for pick twenty seven.
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Yeah, you know you're gonna be it's gonna be a late night, man,
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you better be ready. I think there's a one NBA game. The
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NBA is such a smart business. They're playing most of their games tonight.
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There's four games one tonight and then only one tomorrow Atlanta and Boston. Yeah,
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they know to get out of the way. Man. The NFL is
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a behemoth. It is a snowplow. It literally just will come through and
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it would just wreck your entire world. It will take over everything on our
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focus tomorrow night and the other Bills at pick twenty seven. Yeah, on
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average, they've been saying on WJR throughout the week that you know, around
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eleven fifteen eleven twenty eleven thirty you can kind of look up and expect the
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Bills to be picking or if Brandon bean And in my opinion, would be
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the best move for him, if he gets a chance to move back at
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the late end of around one, maybe somebody wants a quarterback, Maybe somebody
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wants end In Hooker, or you know, Will Levis if he drops that
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far, or you know another poll that they another guy that they love so
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much. You know, it's interesting to see because there's just so many different
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scenarios. And I think that that's one of the things that one of the
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reasons excuse me why I stay out of the whole drafting DT is because,
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like you just, how do you get there's just too many variables, Like
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if so many variables where you have no idea what a team is really looking
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for. I heard that Will Anderson was the best player in the draft,
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Um, you know, doesn't matter regardless of position, and Houston's gonna grab
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him if they don't grab a quarterback. And then all of a sudden,
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now it's Tyree Jackson out of out of Texas Tech, and I'm like,
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well, what the wait a minute, You've just been telling me for two
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months that that you know that Will Anderson is the truth, and all of
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a sudden, Houston might not go with the quarterback. And if they don't
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go with the quarterback, they're not going with him to go with another defensive
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end. Like it just makes it's just all a crapshoot where really everybody is
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just it's a whole bunch of conjecture. And I'm looking for the Bills this
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year, like you said, some of these big names where I think that
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you know, they're probably gonna be good. Like in the past couple of
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years, these you know, the Crystal Loves Garrett Wilsons. When I'm talking
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receiver now, right, these big time guys have have usually lived up to
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the hype. And you know, you're coming in with with a lot of
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names in the receiver draft this year, but you're gonna have to go up
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to get them. So yeah, kind of been opposite of you what I'm
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saying. You know, the I would like a receiver. I would like
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a weapon, but I don't think we can get up high enough to get
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you know, who we really want up there, and so I don't think
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we settle at twenty seven for you know, a mid brain when Bean kind
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of likes the mid rounds to have that weapon Khalil Shakier last year in the
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fifth and gave Davis you know before that in the fourth, so he likes
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to kind of to shoot at that point or you know, maybe does something
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a little uncharacteristic this year, trade up and go get JSN or you know,
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or Addison or Flowers or something like that. Quentin Johnston from TCU.
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But I've kind of passed the point of they're probably not going to trade up
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to do that. So then no, at twenty seven, let's let's let's
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build. We'll see. Yeah. Von Miller, who who's been very vocal
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about wanting to become a general manager at the end of his football career,
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talked about you know, just on his little podcast Biggie, and I love
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listening to him now because I respected fact that he already you know, is
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planning out the rest of his career. He understands he won't play for the
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rest of the time. He understands that he needs to make plans, and
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I love the fact that he's into football and he's so into it. He
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was just like, take BPA T you know, take best player available like
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just you know, doesn't matter the position. And he mentioned quarterback. Obviously
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he really didn't mean that. You know, we obviously are not going to
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take a quarterback if that's number one on Brandon Beat's board. But you know,
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regardless, I mean, like I'm at this point in time, I
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told you that a couple episodes to go DT. Like I'm I've kind of
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backed off. I'm on the wide receiver train. I want one in one
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in round one or two. Excuse me, but like I'm okay if it's
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round two, because like I just it could be a defensive lineman. It
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could be a defensive tackle. There's no defensive tackles, as we've talked about
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it nauseum and they've talked about it and pointed out on w GR and all
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these other outlets, like there's no defensive tackles on the contract after next year.
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None, not you know what at Oliver being picked up. So like
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it could be a DT, it could be a you know, an ad
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rusher, it could be an offensive lineman. Maybe they want some help and
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somebody to actually push Spencer Brian right there on the right tackle position. Maybe
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they want somebody at a center position where they want an interior lineman that's gonna
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fell in for Mitch Morris if he doesn't play much longer with his concussion history
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I have. Maybe it's a safety. Even though they brought back you know,
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poorer and they were able to get lucky with him, you know him
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and hide are on you know, short contracts. Maybe they want somebody like
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that, you know, Demarhamlin. We don't know about his future. So
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happy that he's coming back to play football and be able to participate, But
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like, I don't know what the Bills are gonna do. But I'm not
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going to be surprised almost as I guess is my real point, DT.
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I won't be surprised by any position they take, almost and I definitely won't
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be surprised if it's on the defensive side of the ball, regardless of how
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much you know, I cringe that that that that thought earlier in the off
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season, right other than and that's kind of that. I'm all with this
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team in the m of being to do something like that, But I am
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leaning one way if we can't go up and get you know, a solid
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because I think receivers number one, like just because it's it's sexy, and
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you've got to give weapons, and all these teams that are god have weapons,
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you know. But if we can't get those those big name guys up
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in the middle teams or low twenties, un lean an offensive lineman, I
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think you got to focus on, you know, a high, high tied
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offensive lineman at the end of the first round, first round talent. Maybe
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somebody that's slipped a little because there's so many wide receivers quarterbacks taken. Go
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with the offensive lineman. Go with somebody big, like Priority one's got to
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be protecting longevity as seventeen weep. We keep talking about it. He's got
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to be upright to make plays and be a superstar. So that's I think,
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you know, if we're not making a huge wide receiver splash, I
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gotta directly lean to a high pick in an offensive lineman. We we gotta
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start getting some some talent there. They can go anywhere, you know,
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talent guard, center, tackle, guard, centers, use me any anywhere
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on the offensive line. I'll be happy if we take somebody in the first
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round. Yeah. No, I mean I I kind of just feel like
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there's a situation where, you know, when you're at twenty seven and you're
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just that far back. You kind of just have to let the board kind
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of fall to you unless you are to be ultra aggressive. And I don't
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know if you know, Brandon Bean's in a position where he wants to mortgage
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the future in respects to trading, you know, future first rounders or future
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second rounders they're running what are the case? Maybe it just doesn't fit like
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it It doesn't seem like it fits uh, to be honest, And it
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doesn't mean that they're not trying to go all in for the super Bow or
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anything like that, which takes us to you know, another option for the
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Bills that has been talked about a lot on WGR and on all the other
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shows as well, is the d hop thing. You know, listen,
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I'll state it here Stefan Diggs and DeAndre Hopkins across the you know, the
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field from one another, like obviously like no Bill, what bills? I
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don't know many Bills fans that would say nobody, Like no, that sounds
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absolutely great, And I've heard some things that we've talked about it earlier in
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a couple episodes prior DT, where you know, you can get his cap
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hit down and to write around five million dollars four point eight or something like
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that, five million bucks on a restructure after you trade for him. The
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thing about d hop is that you know, at his age, is it
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almost worth it too? If the Bills are sitting there at twenty seven and
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Jordan Addison is still on the board, we'll say that, you know,
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Jsn's gone, and and you know who I love, Zay Flowers, who
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seems to be a perfect fit for the Bills. He's gone. You know,
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maybe the Giants take or maybe the Cowboys take him, or somebody earlier,
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or Baltimore, somebody like that. If if Jordan Addison is there on
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the board, I don't know if I don't necessarily want the Bills to take
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him as opposed to DeAndre Hopkins. Is DeAndre Hopkins better to Jordan Addison?
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Absolutely, But you have to factor in the fact that he's a first round
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picks, which means we've got four years contract plus a fifth year option that
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is held by the team, in addition to the fact that he's so much
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younger. Where I can groom this young man, I can find a way
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to to you know, to incorporate him where he maybe he is a you
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know, a succession to Stefan Digg. So I'm not exactly sure where I
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lean. I just know that obviously d hop would be awesome, and it
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sounds like Madden. And also a lot of times that I hear it,
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it kind of was like the Beckham stuff last year, where just like it
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sounds like something that's not going to happen. Like, I know that Arizona
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would love to rid themselves of that contract, if not just sit back and
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just wait until they release him and then go to him and then battle it
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out with Kansas City or whoever other contender that he wants to go with on
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a contract. Trading assets for a guy at that point in time, at
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that age, I don't know if that's the best choice. If you know
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somebody that they love, obviously somebody that they love is sitting there at twenty
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seven. Well we're talking figure till they hear. If the Bills are interested
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in DeAndre Hopkins, right, if they're if they're legit about DeAndre Hopkins,
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and I think they're using the draft is like it's it's a win win if
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that's the case. You know, if they can't if they can't go up
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and get the guy they want, or not even go up if they guy.
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If they can't get the receiver they want, that they make a run
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a d Hop after the draft. You know, maybe that's a little little
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move if they're on de Hop right now, you know what I mean,
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like like we're gonna we're gonna see what we can do if we can get
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one of these guys a smarter route, you know, get the get the
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get the young guy come in, so you try to mold them. If
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we can't do that, let's draft best player available and then we'll go get
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d Hop after the draft. Yeah, because it looks like that, you
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know, the Dhop trade would be something that happens in the second round.
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Anyway, the Bills are not going to give Arizona their first round pick under
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any circumstances. I don't think so. Um. You know, if that's
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a situation where you want to wait till Friday and see what the what the
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lay of the land, as they say, looks like, then I'm all
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down for that. I mean, d Hop sounds like a great you know,
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it's a great idea, Like I can see it, you know,
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on the opposite sides of the fields. And obviously it is going to cause
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defensive coordinators, um a lot of headaches. Now, speaking of defensive coordinators,
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obviously our head coach has finally made an official and uh, you know,
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he has said that he's going to take over the defense. So,
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harkening back to a couple episodes ago, you know, I'm excited about this
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opportunity for the Bills to kind of get an opportunity to kind of really just
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shed the light onto Sean McDermott. And I'm not calling for his job or
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anything like that. We won't redo an episode or anything like that, but
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you know, all eyes on McDermott and and he has made an official he's
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going to call the defense DT that's coming up twenty twenty three season. He
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says that if he has to regulate and kind of delegate and let some other
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guys take care of some things, if it's just a little bit too much
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on his plate, obviously he left this self the flexibility that he'll adjust if
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he needs to. But as of now, he said he's excited. He
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said that, you know, that's where he cut his teeth. We've always
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talked about it, you know, that's where he did cut his teeth with
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Philly and Caroline as a defensive coordinator and kind of getting him, you know,
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on that side of the ball. Listen, Leslie Frage's gone. I
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listened to a couple of our old episodes DT today, just kind of getting
21:49
back in the swing of things, and like we'll see man. I mean,
21:52
he is front and center, You're head coach, front and center before
21:56
we talk about the AFC East additions and and how the AFC in general is
22:00
just a juggernaut coming up in twenty twenty three. Okay, Sean, he's
22:06
the man. He says he wants to be the man. He's the man.
22:07
He's got it. Yeah, and I think there's gonna be some success
22:11
there because you know, he's he's one of those guys that isn't gonna,
22:15
isn't gonna you know, he's got a lot of pride to him, right,
22:18
and he knows he's putting this all on his plate and he's gonna be
22:22
you know, super critical, critical under the magnifying glass with this defense.
22:26
So he knows he's gonna he's going, you know, all out, even
22:29
if he's got to sacrifice some other things to make it happen. But you
22:33
know, go back to the draft. That's another one Robbie Ye just mentioned
22:36
was you don't got a play caller in the in the middle of the defense,
22:38
you know, so that you know, that might be something they look
22:45
at in the draft of Okay, we were gonna take this guy, but
22:47
now Sean's calling the defense and he thinks he can work with this guy better,
22:51
you know, think you know, because I think that's got to be
22:56
a pick. Is is backer, you know, and something like they did
23:02
David out there Lemont take David that they didn't you know, make a move
23:04
on and didn't do anything free agency linebacker why so you know they got to
23:10
make a linebacker pick. Now I heard I heard Sound Capaccio talking about this
23:14
as well, and I was interested because it was something that didn't really dawn
23:18
on me because I just, you know, next man up, best player
23:19
available, just go get it, you know. But I have spoken about,
23:23
you know, and we've spoken about on the on this show before,
23:26
just how Tyrell Dotson and you know how you know, Tourell Bernard they're gonna
23:30
get an opportunity to kind of play is it is? It kind of out
23:36
of character for the Bills to pick another linebacker when they just you know,
23:41
made a third round and you know investment on Tourell Bernard last year, Like,
23:45
is that is that out of character for them to kind of, you
23:48
know, quote unquote give up. I don't think that drafting a linebacker means
23:51
and you know, in the first or second round, means that you're giving
23:52
up on Terrell Bernard or Dots. And I just think that it's just competition
23:56
and iron Sharper AND's iron. Let all these guys coming in and participate and
24:02
go get it. And I don't really at this point in time, you
24:04
know, Edmonds is gone, so you need to find his replacement. And
24:08
at this point in time, I don't care where it comes from. I
24:11
don't care if they draft somebody in the second round over the first round of
24:14
its Jack Campbell or Drew Sanders. I mean, obviously there's got flaws on
24:17
all these guys. That's what the draft is like. You'll be able to
24:19
find flaws on everybody. Bryce Young is gonna go number one probably tomorrow,
24:22
and all they could talk about is how he's you know, as short as
24:26
Drew Brees. So like everybody's got you know, flaws, and everybody's got
24:30
different things to their game. Is it. Is it a signal that they
24:33
made a mistake if they draft another linebacker, because I heard that today and
24:37
I just I just didn't agree with it. I was like, hey,
24:40
I don't I don't think they give a shitt next player. Let's go.
24:44
Yeah, I don't think so, Because even if Tremaine Edmunds stayed and they
24:47
paid them this year and they drafted a linebacker, I don't think people would
24:51
have been, you know, that crazed up about it. Okay, So
24:55
you know, even so with Triman out, they draft a linebacker, it's
24:57
you know, it's got to happen. I think. Yeah. So that's
25:00
where I kind of stand and live it. You know, yeah, they
25:03
got I know, they've got to Rolle Bernard and and uh In tyrol dots
25:07
and and it was just kind of floated out there um today and that there
25:11
was a possibility that maybe the Bills would never possibly draft a linebacker early because
25:15
of the fact that they've just made an investment and linebacker. And I kind
25:18
of look at it as the circumstances changed. I mean, you know,
25:22
last year they did they drafted linebacker, and they drafted Bernard and he you
25:26
know, he played the game. It didn't really work out, but you
25:27
know he was he was in there. Come back to camp, you know
25:30
he's under contract. Come back to camp and put on your helmet. This
25:33
offseason, go to Saint John Fisher and knock some heads around and and try
25:37
to prove and earn your spot. If it's Drew Sanders or Jack Campbell or
25:41
or Trent Simpson. I don't think that it changes anything at all. Like
25:45
you guys have to all go out and compete for your job. Unless you're
25:48
seventeen, you got to go out in seventeen or fourteen or you know what
25:51
I mean. Or forty you better go out and earn your spot because or
25:55
fifty eight as we you know, give respect to Milano who they chose.
25:59
And twenty three. Yeah, yeah, there's not many spots available. Man,
26:04
There's not really many starting spots available as the point. So you got
26:07
to go out there and earn your job. So I'm down with that.
26:11
I'm really excited because you know, the draft is just a time, like
26:14
I said at the beginning of the show, DT, it's a time where
26:17
you know, there's new faces and there's new you know, blood into the
26:21
program. And I'm excited about it. Mister Rogers is in the neighborhood DT
26:27
officially now. It took him. It took him. It took him long
26:30
enough now, But mister Rogers is in the neighborhood. I don't know how
26:34
friendly the neighborhood is gonna be to him. What do you think about the
26:38
Jets? They finally pulled the trigger and they gave up the compensation that the
26:41
packers were looking for and got their guy. Um, I don't know if
26:45
he's just there for a year. I don't know if he's there for two
26:48
years. I couldn't see him there for any longer than three years for sure,
26:51
the way this guy waffles back and forth. What do you think about
26:53
the Jets? Man? Are they instantly on the bills coattails? They had
26:57
a great d obviously, you know we've talked about it at nauseum. Defense.
27:02
You know, defense is not always you know, comparable from year to
27:04
year, and that's really one of the great things about this Sean McDermott and
27:08
Leslie Fraser led defenses is that they've been great these last few years, which
27:12
is not always something that translates. What do you think, man, the
27:15
Jets had the d last year and now they claim they just needed the quarterback.
27:18
They go out, they get this old man. I mean he's he's
27:22
got plenty of MVPs. I mean, he's got a Super Bowl ring.
27:25
I mean, I don't know, it was a long time ago, but
27:26
he's still got one. What do you think about Aaron Rodgers? Yeah,
27:33
you know, good. Good for the Jets. Their rosters, nice,
27:36
rob their rosters nice. It was they're building there, but I guess like
27:41
they've had one hundred, you know, top ten picks five years. You
27:45
know, you would hope they get some players on that team. But this
27:48
is this is it, man. You got to build up to beat the
27:52
Chiefs, you gotta build up to beat the Bills, you got to build
27:53
up to beat the Bengals. Like, this is what these teams are doing.
27:56
This is what the Bills did. And and we talked about, you
28:00
know, your your point at the end of last season, when you were
28:03
getting in Twitter fights about like graduating, like graduating our fandom like okay,
28:08
like we I appreciate that we're good now, but now it's time to take
28:11
that next level step. And as a Bills fan looking at this, like
28:15
yeah, they're they're good. They're gonna be better. It's gonna be a
28:18
tough game when we play them twice a year. But you know this is
28:22
because you beat a lot of mediocre teams and couldn't beat the really good teams.
28:26
They did not at all. We're just as good as a mediocre team.
28:30
So now if you know you got to go in and just take care
28:33
of it, like there's no other option. It's gonna be tough. It's
28:36
gonna be a battle. I kind of like it. Maybe there'll be a
28:37
new rivalry, you know, enlisted in the division. The division's gonna be
28:41
be hot and battle tested, and absolutely it's not just gonna be somebody running
28:45
away with it every year, which I think makes a lot of team grit
28:48
and a lot of you know, good divisional grit that we saw on the
28:52
right before the drought in the nineties of like that that that had bash an
28:56
AFC East. But at the end of the day, Rob Screw, he
29:00
might not say you might retire in training camp. Yeah, you might go
29:07
do some shrooms, man. You might just say feel like playing anymore.
29:10
Man, that's just such a like a Jets thing, I feel like.
29:15
So it's it's gonna be it's gonna be a challenge, it's gonna be a
29:18
battle. But but you used to beat them when they were mediocre. Now
29:23
you got to beat them when they're good. There's just no other choice,
29:26
you know. So yeah, well we'll see, we'll see. But they
29:29
got a good roster, you'll get no I mean, and we've given respect.
29:32
I mean, and you know that you and I have given Respector Joe
29:34
Douglas out there with the with the Jets, and I know we did our
29:37
you know, our schedule preview last year and we talked about the Jets and
29:41
how they were making moves and we said it was probably not you know,
29:44
last year, but you know, coming up they're they're coming up the rear
29:47
like they are. They're serious, and they're making some some good moves.
29:49
And I like Jermaine Johnson and I like their draft pick last year. Obviously,
29:52
you know, with Sauce Gardner and Garrett Wilson, those are whole runs.
29:56
I mean, anytime you you you know, you you fill out both
30:00
you know, offensive and defensive player of the year for rookies, you know,
30:03
the obviously that's a situation where you're doing something right. So you know,
30:07
one thing yeah. One thing about the jetso rob is last year even
30:11
too, like they kind of had that vibe of like the Memphis Grizzlies in
30:15
the NBA a little bit. You feel that, like just like ah,
30:19
like the young, up and coming, like boisterous team. Yeah, yeah,
30:23
we're young, but we're gonna punch in the mouth, like we got
30:27
right, we got the roster. We're good, like yeah, and they
30:30
were one, seven and nine last year and then oh we're good, and
30:33
like, yeah they might twelve, twelve whatever. I can't even do the
30:37
map now, twelve and six, right, so twelve and twelve and five.
30:41
So I just feel like they got that kind of cocky vibe. The
30:45
Dolphins a little bit with that too, like yeah, we got the roster,
30:48
we're young, we're good, but you know, have done nothing to
30:51
show for it yet. And at the end of the day, the Bills
30:52
are just just backing the lunch bail, clocking and clocking out. The Chiefs
30:56
are clocking and clocking out, the Bengals are clocking in, clocking out,
31:00
and you know, and these dudes are talking because they got a good roster.
31:03
So that's kind of where I stand with this type of vibe. And
31:07
the vibe they got going on right now. Yeah, man, I mean,
31:10
it'll be interesting to see he's in. He's in the AFC, so
31:12
we'll see him, as he said, twice twice a year, and we'll
31:17
see how long at lasts. You know, the Bills and the Jets probably
31:19
are our primetime matchup. That's something you know. I could definitely see us
31:22
on a Monday night or a Thursday night somewhere throughout the season, whether it
31:27
be in at MetLife Stadium or at or at the ralph Um. As we
31:32
as we begin to wrap up on this draft coverage, man, DT,
31:34
I wanted to get your thoughts on a prediction, because I mean, I
31:38
guess everybody else doesn't. So we just went in Rome. We'll we'll just
31:41
go ahead and predict. I have no idea what the Buffalo Bills are going
31:45
to do in Round one tomorrow. What I would I guess my number one
31:52
choice would be, you know, not number one choice, but number one
31:55
prediction would be that they go defense. I do think that they'll go defense.
31:59
I've kind of resigned to the fact that I think that that will be
32:01
a pick that they take. Now I will be pleasantly surprised. If it's
32:06
a wide receiver, I'll be obviously, again, we just talked about the
32:08
board. They'll play the board. I think Brandon Bean will do that.
32:12
But when it comes down to it, best player available, whether it's some
32:15
stud offensive lineman that fell in the draft, I just kind of lean towards
32:20
it'll probably be a defensive lineman, whether it be edge or defensive tackle,
32:23
you know, Maizie Smith, or you know, somebody on the interior or
32:28
that can kind of disrupt. Because of the fact that they've got all these
32:30
guys a one year contracts, I think that that's where they'll lean Round one.
32:35
I won't be upset. I'll be you know, glued in on Friday
32:38
on the wide receiver train, you know, grabbing the horn, you know,
32:42
you know, shoving coals into the engine for us to go ahead and
32:45
get a wide receiver, whether it be Josh Downs or you know, all
32:47
those different guys that they've kind of projected in the second round for us.
32:51
So I'm I'm kind of leaning towards it will be defensive line, and that's
32:55
kind of where I'll just sit on it. Not what I want, but
33:00
I do think that the way that the board's gonna fall. I think that
33:02
Brandon Bean unless he trades up. I think that's where it landsforce, man,
33:06
I really do. Okay, well, I'll go opposite. I'll go
33:08
old line, staying in the trenches, stay in the trenches. Games one
33:14
of loss there, right, Robson? Yeah, yeah, either or I
33:16
would I would be um So I'd rank it probably in the first round.
33:23
Happiest would probably be receiver, sure of course, Neutral would be neutral,
33:30
would be offensive line linebacker. Okay, a little, a little what the
33:36
fuck would be? Yeah? Yeah, no, I don't think they're taking
33:40
a defensive backman, yes, a little bit. What the What the fuck
33:44
is funny because you know just all of the different you know resources then we've
33:47
talked about it in a preview episodes. Yeah, I mean, like what
33:52
you know what is going on? Because you know they they've poured into it.
33:54
So sometimes what you can what can happen? You know? And with
33:58
the drafted again kind of leads back to our point of how it's a crapshoot.
34:01
You can chase your tail. So you draft Russeau. You think that
34:06
he's going to be something generational with Bendy and he's huge, six seven,
34:09
and it kind of doesn't work. You know, now he's fine, he's
34:12
serviceable. But then you go back and now you can you know, ajup
34:15
and that's not really working. And then all of a sudden and one in
34:21
one draft year, you go, you know, back to back, you
34:22
do Rousseau and then you do wingiemash up and you're like, fuck it,
34:25
we're gonna go back to back and bashing Well, you know great, Yeah,
34:30
it's all of a sudden, You're chasing your tail, is what I
34:32
mean. All of a sudden. Now I'm drafting another defensive end because I'm
34:37
trying to make up for the mistake that I made the previous year. I
34:39
understand that those are premium positions, and I understand sometimes the logic behind chasing
34:44
your tail on those, but I don't want to continue to ignore weapons for
34:47
Josh Allen Um. I understand that you know guys like Darnielle Washington from Georgia
34:52
and you know all the bills you know, mafia, and Nicol said,
34:55
well, why are you gonna use them? And are you gonna run twelve
34:59
personnel? Like I don't care. I just know that he's like, he
35:01
looks better than Dawson back like he looks like excellent, like like this put
35:05
him on the team, Like I don't, I don't give a shit like
35:07
blood Josh and and and you know that's what you're paying Ken Dorsey for.
35:12
Pay this man to come up with options, to come up with different sets,
35:15
to come up with different you know, window dressing, to come up
35:17
with different motion pre you know, pre snap like different things. Like It's
35:22
just it all leads back to, you know, fill the weapons around Josh
35:25
Allen and then leaning it on Ken Dorsey to make it all work. And
35:30
if he can't, then let's be able to see why I am Why am
35:32
I so happy that that that Sean McDermott is under the microscope, Because if
35:37
it doesn't work, then I get a chance to get a little bit of
35:39
a glimmer into why it didn't work in the previous seasons. You know,
35:44
now I don't have to lay everything. You know, I never was laying
35:46
everything at at Leslie Fraser, but for the Bills Mafia that were, now
35:51
I have more ammunition to say, hey, no, well, maybe maybe
35:53
the off coverage against Cincinnati wasn't all on Leslie. Maybe the off coverage against
35:59
you know, Patrick mco on first and second down in thirteen seconds. It
36:01
wasn't on all on, Leslie, look at look at how your coach just
36:05
did X y Z this season. So I'm happy that you know it.
36:09
The curtain is kind of pulled back, and I want the curtain pulled back
36:13
on the offense as well. I want to know as quickly as possible if
36:15
Ken Dorsey can do this job or not continue to surround Josh Allen with weapons
36:21
so that way we can get to that answer quicker. That's kind of how
36:23
I'm leaning towards, like I want to find out if he knows what he's
36:25
doing as soon as possible. Yeah, that's a good point on both sides.
36:29
You're gonna really see if McDermott and get some closure or happiness. Yeah,
36:34
I'll definitely see, you know what, what Dorsey can do it if
36:36
we had some weapons, because I think even if they don't, you know,
36:38
draft a receiver or de hoop, the weapons train is still going to
36:43
be in motion. Like that's never gonna stop. Well seventeens a quarterback,
36:45
right, there's always got to be in the conversation. But I like,
36:50
but they kind of fuck it up last year though they kind of mean,
36:52
like by the end of the year, it was Josh asking for cole be
36:55
easily to come back here John Brown like that that kind of signals a fuck
36:59
up, like you might you might have wanted to drive some receivers beforehand.
37:02
Sure, yeah, that's that's that's great. I mean, keep it.
37:07
But yeah, but I like I like the spot the Bills are in right
37:12
now. I think they're it's a lot more comfortable being right in the middle
37:15
now, like you know, right in the middle of expectation, right in
37:16
the middle of you know, And it's it's the mindset I feel. The
37:22
past couple of years has been like, oh, maybe we'll be good again,
37:24
like with the team, you know, maybe we'll be good again.
37:27
Oh we're good again. And now it's we have to be good, you
37:30
know, we have to be good and and you know, and we're not
37:32
the we're still one of the betting favorites, but we're going to gradually become
37:37
I don't think, not the betting favorite with all this other you know,
37:39
bizzazz if you will, going around the conference. So yeah, I wouldn't
37:45
say we're underdogs by any means, but I kind of like being out of
37:47
the limelight a little Okay, back to focus, get back to your deal,
37:51
and you know, and have to be good is the mindset of this
37:53
team going in. And I kind of like I just feel a little more
37:58
comfortable being in that. Yeah, I mean, but you know, it's
38:00
just gonna be tough to hide. One of the things that Jeremy White had
38:02
said and I this week on WGR, and I really did, you know,
38:07
I echoed it and I understood that sentiment, like there's really almost nowhere
38:12
to hide for the Bills now, Like we're kind of marquis Like we're kind
38:15
of like the Broadway the show, you know what I mean, Like US
38:17
and Kansas City and Cincinnati and maybe a few teams out in the NFC,
38:22
but like the AFC is really stacked, and like we are kind of at
38:27
the at the head of the class. Like, so there's really nowhere to
38:30
hide for the Bills. You know, we're gonna be favored in a lot
38:31
of games. We've got a you know, crazy season coming up with some
38:35
of the opponents, and I know we're gonna talk about that when the schedule
38:37
comes out next month, but like you know, I just kind of I
38:40
kind of look at it where there's just almost nowhere. I just I'm really
38:45
running out of the excuse Like I'm not looking to give any more excuses.
38:49
I don't need us to play like every team is gonna play the underdog.
38:52
Every team is gonna say that nobody believed in us. Every team does that.
38:54
Every team believes in that. That's kind of one of the locker room
38:58
rally cries is that nobody believe us. And that's kind of how you galanize
39:00
the room. And and every you know, they're athletes like that. You
39:04
know, Michael Jordan made up stories that aren't even true to get himself up
39:07
for games, you know what I mean. You know they'll come up with
39:09
some type of way to have a chip on the shoulder. I just think
39:13
that the bills are we're marquee now DT like we are, We're on the
39:15
main event, and I just I just want us to make sure that we're
39:19
acting like it. Make sure that you're surrounding Josh Allen with as much talent
39:22
as you can, weapons or like you said, and we've talked about before,
39:25
protection, making sure that you're keeping him up right. Because I don't
39:29
want this to be an opportunity wasted that's all. I don't know how long
39:34
the window is open. It's open. He's our quarterback, he's healthy.
39:37
How long is he going to continue to be able to put on the cape
39:39
As we've talked about at nauseam. I want to make it easier for him.
39:43
I want the layup lines and YadA, YadA, YadA. So we'll
39:45
kind of see what happens DT, because tomorrow and this weekend you will get
39:52
some influx of new talent, new names on the Bills, roster, happy,
39:55
drafted checks out, you know, just to see. Also, one
40:01
of my favorite parts about the draft is just talking about all the other teams.
40:05
You know why they do that? You know, oh we are all
40:12
arm is just the constant um, constant fear of any pick. You know,
40:19
the Bengals are the Chiefs pick. Yes, you're just like, oh
40:22
damn, well, that's how That's how my drafts have been the past couple
40:30
of years, just kind of just ragging on other teams, and then every
40:32
Chiefs or Bengals pick like oh, like like really watching the highlight reel,
40:38
like damn, of course they got here, like I didn't even know the
40:42
guy, you know, yes, absolutely, I mean if the Bills draft
40:45
somebody in on the defensive side of the football, I pick twenty seven,
40:47
and then the Chiefs come around and draft somebody on the offensive side of pick.
40:52
Yeah, I'm going to be like, what, like, who is
40:53
this guy? You're absolutely right, I'll be wondering what random being missed and
40:59
why didn't we take him? So you know it'll be fun, man,
41:01
I mean, the draft is always fun. I love the intrigue. I
41:05
love you know, obviously, I put it out there on Twitter on Nickel
41:07
City Crew, just that one ESPN commercial just how family, you know,
41:12
just families change tomorrow night. And you know a lot of young men get
41:15
a chance to realize their dreams and take their families in different situations financially.
41:21
And I'm all about that, man. I'm all about the athletes going ahead
41:23
and getting theirs. Manum, I love it. I love that the fact
41:27
that they have an opportunity to make this this dream come true. So we'll
41:30
see man Bills at pick twenty seven. The NFL Draft Tomorrow, twenty twenty
41:36
three, starts at eight o'clock. Again on all of anywhere you find NFL
41:40
stuff, I mean the n network, and I mean you have to be
41:45
under a rock tomorrow, not to know what's going on in respects to the
41:47
NFL Draft, but tune in watch it and again around eleven fifteen. I
41:53
mean, I would say eleven o'clock. Get in at eleven o'clock, have
41:57
a late night snack, you know, get some chips like that, and
42:00
then you can kind of just stay awake for about an hour or so and
42:02
Alicia will get a chance to see the Bills who they pick um and then
42:07
and get a little bit of analysis on the young man. So we'll see
42:08
DT. I mean that we'll catch up next week. We'll talk about it.
42:12
We'll have all the draft picks in by next week's episode. I mean
42:15
we'll be able to talk shit and kind of pick them apart. Man like
42:19
they have these uh, these guys throughout this draft process. We'll see what
42:22
Brandon be does man Like he said he he gets Anty, he said he
42:27
gets Hansy. He might he might just train them and go get somebody.
42:30
Oh man. Man as always, Man, I appreciate your DT. Spread
42:36
love not hate. Man. These were my bills, thoughts set out loud
42:39
to hit him with get him with the go bills. Man. I mean,
42:42
we in our grown let's get back to it on the clock.