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Speaker 1: let's get into today's story. On the afternoon of July eighteenth,
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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, a man was driving down a road
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Speaker 1: surrounded on both sides by trees and a rural part
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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin called Douglas County. There were no other cars
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Speaker 1: on the road, and so the sky was driving pretty fast,
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Speaker 1: and as he rounded this bend in the road, something
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Speaker 1: out the passenger side window on the side of the
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Speaker 1: road in the grass caught his eye. He couldn't tell
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Speaker 1: what it was, but it was a pretty big object,
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Speaker 1: and after he drove right past it, he just couldn't
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Speaker 1: stop thinking about it, like whatever it was, it just
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Speaker 1: seemed out of place. And so for whatever reason, this
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Speaker 1: man felt compelled to actually stop and go see what
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Speaker 1: it was, and so he slowed down and parked on
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Speaker 1: the shoulder. He got out and began walking along the
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Speaker 1: road back in the direction of this object. And as
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Speaker 1: he got closer, he began to see this object again
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Speaker 1: in the shoulder of the road, and it was sort
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Speaker 1: of obscured by grass and other things, so he couldn't
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Speaker 1: see what it was. But as he got closer he
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Speaker 1: saw the object was pretty big and it was all white.
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Speaker 1: And as he took a few more steps and got
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Speaker 1: within maybe twenty or thirty feet, he finally got a
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Speaker 1: better look at this object, and he just froze because
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Speaker 1: the object was a man, a man wearing all white,
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Speaker 1: a white suit, a white belt, white shoes, all white,
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Speaker 1: and he was laying on the side of the road,
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Speaker 1: just totally motionless. And for a second the driver thought,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe this guy is sleeping. But after taking
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Speaker 1: only a few more steps and getting a totally unobstructed
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Speaker 1: view at the sky, he saw there was a gaping
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Speaker 1: hole in this man's chest. He was obviously dead, and
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Speaker 1: so the driver turned around, ran back to his car,
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Speaker 1: sped to the nearest house, and called nine to one.
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Speaker 2: One.
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Speaker 1: The next morning, a Douglas County detective named Stephen Long
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Speaker 1: was sitting at his desk looking at the photos of
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Speaker 1: the dead man in white. This murder case was less
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Speaker 1: than twenty four hours old, but already this was one
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Speaker 1: of the weirder cases that this detective had ever been
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Speaker 1: assigned to. The victim had pretty much immediately been identified
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Speaker 1: because he was carrying on his person his wallet, and
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Speaker 1: in his wallet was his driver's license, and so they
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Speaker 1: knew who he was. But the man in white's identity
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Speaker 1: actually made the whole case more confusing, not less. And
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Speaker 1: Mark had no obvious ties to the area, So what
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Speaker 1: was this rich guy doing three hours from home, dressed
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Speaker 1: all in white getting shot to death on the side
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Speaker 1: of the road. Like it didn't add up? The dead
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Speaker 1: man was a forty five year old millionaire named Mark Foster,
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Speaker 1: and Mark lived three hours away in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and
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Speaker 1: had no discernible ties to Douglas County, And so the
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Speaker 1: detective was thinking, like, what is this rich guy doing here,
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Speaker 1: dressed head to toe all in white getting murdered on
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Speaker 1: the side of some local, random backroad. But things only
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Speaker 1: got more confusing from there. After the medical examiner did
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Speaker 1: Mark's autopsy, he told Detective Long that he had discovered
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Speaker 1: a note inside of Mark's shoe, and the note just
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Speaker 1: said Jack Fraser isn't here, but it's Jimmy Bailey or
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Speaker 1: a lookalike. I hope I'm okay. Now, nobody, including Detective Long,
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Speaker 1: had any idea what this note meant. It was far
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Speaker 1: too cryptic. But when they ran Jack Fraser and Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Bailey's names through their database, the police discovered that both
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Speaker 1: of those men one existed and two they lived in Minnesota,
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Speaker 1: same as Mark Foster. And so, naturally, Detective Long began
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Speaker 1: to suspect that maybe those two, those two men were
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Speaker 1: connected in some way to Mark Foster. You know, maybe
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Speaker 1: they were involved and his murder, or maybe they were
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Speaker 1: actually his killer or killers. He didn't know, but it
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Speaker 1: was his best lead, so Detective Long decided he would
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Speaker 1: just have to go to Minneapolis to try to find
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Speaker 1: out more. A few hours later, Detective Long parked his
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Speaker 1: car at the Minneapolis police station. He got out and
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Speaker 1: walked inside the building. Waiting for him. Inside was the
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Speaker 1: local detective whom Mark had already spoken to, and so
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Speaker 1: after meeting this detective, the two of them went into
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Speaker 1: an interview room where Mark Foster's wife was waiting for them,
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Speaker 1: and right away detective Long noticed that she was very
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Speaker 1: pregnant and at least fifteen or twenty years younger than Mark,
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Speaker 1: but despite that, she seemed very composed. It would turn
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Speaker 1: out she had already been told about her husband's death
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Speaker 1: and she was basically resigned to the fact that she
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Speaker 1: was here to try to answer questions to figure out
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Speaker 1: what happened. And so the detective sat down and they
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Speaker 1: began to interview her, and then when they brought up
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Speaker 1: the note that was found in Mark schu specifically, when
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Speaker 1: they said the two names that were on that note,
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Speaker 1: Jack Fraser and Jimmy Bailey, when they said that, it
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Speaker 1: triggered something in Mark Foster's wife mediately began to cry,
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Speaker 1: and then in between sobs, she would tell the detectives
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Speaker 1: that she knew who those two men were. She told
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Speaker 1: them that she had previously had relationships with both of
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Speaker 1: them before marrying Mark, and she said after she married Mark,
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Speaker 1: Jack and Jimmy became very jealous. They didn't like the
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Speaker 1: idea that she had chosen Mark over them, and so
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Speaker 1: she had always felt like those two Jack and Jimmy
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Speaker 1: sort of had it out for Mark as a result
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Speaker 1: of this romantic rivalry. After the interview with Mark's wife ended,
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Speaker 1: Detective Long began to think that despite this case appearing
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Speaker 1: on the surface to be very odd and confusing, that
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Speaker 1: perhaps in reality it was quite simple. Maybe Jimmy and
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Speaker 1: Jack were so jealous of Mark that they killed Mark.
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Speaker 1: I mean, based on what Mark's wife had just told
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Speaker 1: them in the interview about them being romantic rivals of Mark,
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Speaker 1: and also the fact that that note was in Mark
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Speaker 1: schu and named those two men, it certainly seemed very possible.
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Speaker 1: But over the next couple of days that Detective Long
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Speaker 1: began digging into this theory, that theory felt apart because
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Speaker 1: it would turn out Jack Frasier and Jimmy Bailey had
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Speaker 1: absolutely airtight alibis. They simply couldn't have been the killers. Now,
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Speaker 1: Detective Long was obviously frustrated. He felt like he really
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Speaker 1: had it here, but he was not deterred. He decided
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Speaker 1: his next move would be to try to better understand
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Speaker 1: his victim. To this point, he had already interviewed a
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Speaker 1: lot of Mark's friends and family, but something he had
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Speaker 1: not done yet was simply go to Mark's house and
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Speaker 1: have a look around. So Detective Long got a search warrant,
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Speaker 1: and on July twenty ninth, roughly a week after Mark
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Speaker 1: was killed, Detective Long, along with another detective, pulled up
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Speaker 1: in front of Mark Foster's large, two story home in
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Speaker 1: the middle of a quiet suburban neighborhood. Now, from the outside,
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Speaker 1: the home looked totally ordinary relative to its neighbors, but
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Speaker 1: once they got inside the house, it was anything but.
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Speaker 1: The detectives made their way up to the front door
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Speaker 1: and knocked, and a few seconds later, Mark Foster's wife
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Speaker 1: opened up the door and let them inside. And right
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Speaker 1: away Detective Long is looking around and he's seeing all
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Speaker 1: over the world. Walls on the first floor of the
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Speaker 1: house are these graphic pictures and paintings of naked people.
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Speaker 1: And then in addition to that, on some of the
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Speaker 1: coffee tables and various surfaces on the first floor right
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Speaker 1: when you walk in, are all these pornographic magazines and
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Speaker 1: books everywhere. And Mark's wife didn't acknowledge any of it.
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Speaker 1: She acted like it was completely normal to have all
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Speaker 1: this stuff right in the front part of your house.
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Speaker 1: And so the two detectives are looking at each other,
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Speaker 1: as you know, Mark's wife is leading them on this
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Speaker 1: tour through the first floor, and at some point, Detective
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Speaker 1: Long just said, hey, you know, missus Foster, why don't
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Speaker 1: you have a seat on the couch and you just
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Speaker 1: let us take a look around your house on our own.
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Speaker 1: And so she said, okay, she sat down on the couch,
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Speaker 1: and then the two detectives they left the living room,
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Speaker 1: went back to the front of the house and made
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Speaker 1: their way upstairs. And once they got upstairs, they found
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Speaker 1: the master suite and there was all this bondage gear inside.
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Speaker 1: There were leather straps attached to the bedposts, there was
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Speaker 1: whips and handcuffs. There was also additional pornographic material in there.
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Speaker 1: But I mean, considering what the detectives had seen downstairs,
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Speaker 1: this sort of felt on par for this house. And
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Speaker 1: so after searching the other bedrooms and other rooms on
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Speaker 1: the second floor and finding more pornographic material basically everywhere,
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Speaker 1: the detectives found their way back to the hallway in
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Speaker 1: the second floor, and they noticed there was a rope
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Speaker 1: hanging down from the ceiling and it was attached to
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Speaker 1: the pull door that led to the attic, and so
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Speaker 1: the two detectives they walked over, they pulled the rope down.
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Speaker 1: It revealed this fold outset of stairs that came down
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Speaker 1: from the attic, and once those were in place, the
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Speaker 1: two detectives began climbing up. And once they got up there,
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Speaker 1: they discovered that this attic was not a storage space
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Speaker 1: like many attics are in American homes. Instead, this attic
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Speaker 1: was a fully functional room that sort of resembled like
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Speaker 1: a Satanic dungeon of sorts. All the walls were totally
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Speaker 1: jet black, and there were all these burned out candles
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Speaker 1: all over the place and tarot cards littering the floor
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Speaker 1: and on the back of the attic basically all the
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Speaker 1: way on the other side, there was what appeared to
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Speaker 1: be an altar that sort of overlooked the entire room,
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Speaker 1: and on the altar were more candles, and there was
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Speaker 1: a voodoo doll. I mean, it's totally creepy, and the
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Speaker 1: two detectives are looking at each other like what's going
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Speaker 1: on here? And so the detectives they climbed all the
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Speaker 1: way into the attic and then slowly began walking across
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Speaker 1: towards the altar, and when they got close enough to
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Speaker 1: actually see the altar up close, they just froze because
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Speaker 1: sitting on the altar. In addition to the candles and
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Speaker 1: on your altar? But Mark's wife, the second that attic
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Speaker 1: was mentioned, went silent. She refused to speak about anything
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Speaker 1: to do with the attic, and so, after a minute,
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Speaker 1: realizing this conversation was going nowhere, Detective Long and his
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Speaker 1: partner called for backup, and as they waited for backup,
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Speaker 1: the two of them stepped away from Mark's wife and
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Speaker 1: began speculating, like is this a cult? Was Mark a
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Speaker 1: part of a cult that ran it out of his attic?
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Speaker 2: Like?
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Speaker 1: What's going on here? And are we being targeted by
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Speaker 1: the cult. Is that why our names are on the altar.
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Speaker 1: A few minutes later, backup arrived and they would do
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Speaker 1: a much more extensive search of the property. But other
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Speaker 1: than finding more pornographic materials and bondage gear, there really
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Speaker 1: wasn't anything else substantive that connected Mark or his wife
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Speaker 1: to what happened to Mark or what Mark was even
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Speaker 1: doing in this house. Was he in a cult? They
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Speaker 1: didn't know, and so ultimately Detective Long and his partner
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Speaker 1: told Mark's wife, who still is being quiet at this point,
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Speaker 1: that she should not leave town because they were going
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Speaker 1: to follow up with her soon. Now. In fairness, Detective
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Speaker 1: Long couldn't tell if if Mark's wife was being silent
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Speaker 1: and not talking about what was going on in her
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Speaker 1: house because she was complicit in some way in what
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Speaker 1: happened to Mark, or if she was maybe being threatened
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Speaker 1: by somebody and she was afraid to talk. They didn't know,
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Speaker 1: but either way, after leaving the property after the search
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Speaker 1: was over, Detective Long and his partner felt like their
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Speaker 1: next move was to try to learn more about cults.
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Speaker 1: They needed a cult expert, and it just so happened
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Speaker 1: there was an occult bookstore very close to Mark's house,
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Speaker 1: and so they decided they would start there, and right
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Speaker 1: away their decision to go to that bookstore paid dividends,
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Speaker 1: but not how the detectives expected it would turn out.
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Speaker 1: The owner of that bookstore was indeed a cult expert.
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Speaker 1: But much more importantly and relevant to this case was
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Speaker 1: that the owner happened to personally know Mark Foster, and
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Speaker 1: he told the detectives that Mark came to his bookstore
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Speaker 1: all the time. And also the owner said he knew
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Speaker 1: a bunch of Mark's friends. And so by the time
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Speaker 1: the detectives left the bookstore, they had learned a little
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Speaker 1: bit about cults. But more important, they left with a
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Speaker 1: list of names the owner had given them of known
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Speaker 1: associates of Mark Foster who maybe were involved in whatever
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Speaker 1: was going on in Mark's house, and so maybe they
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Speaker 1: had information about what happened to Mark. The detectives were
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Speaker 1: able to track down everybody on this list very quickly,
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Speaker 1: and they were all young people in their twenties, and
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Speaker 1: in each of the interviews they conducted, each of these
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Speaker 1: young people were very open about being in what they
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Speaker 1: called a religious group that they said Mark was a
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Speaker 1: part of as well. Now, the detectives theorized that this
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Speaker 1: religious group was very likely a cult like they believed,
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Speaker 1: but they didn't call it a cult. They called it
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Speaker 1: a group. But the detectives didn't let up. They kept
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Speaker 1: pressing these people until eventually a new name surfaced, Greg Freisner.
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Speaker 1: Now none of these people said Greg was in charge
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Speaker 1: of the cult. Instead, they just sort of said, well,
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Speaker 1: talk to Greg if you want more information about our group.
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Speaker 1: The detectives naturally began to wonder if this Greg person
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Speaker 1: was the cult leader, or maybe he was Marx Keller,
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Speaker 1: or maybe he was both, but regardless, it seemed pretty
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Speaker 1: apparent that they needed to talk to Greg because he
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Speaker 1: might have more information about what happened to Mark. It
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Speaker 1: took a few days, but the detectives were able to
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Speaker 1: track Greg down and they brought him in for an interview,
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Speaker 1: and boy, oh boy, did Greg have a story to tell.
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Speaker 1: Based on what Greg told the detectives, here is what
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Speaker 1: happened to Mark on the day that he died on
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Speaker 1: July eighteenth, nineteen ninety seven. On that day, Greg Freisner
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Speaker 1: met Mark Foster at Mark's home and when Mark came outside,
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Speaker 1: he was dressed head to toe in white, something he
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Speaker 1: would do for special ceremonies, and so Mark, he came
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Speaker 1: down the steps, didn't say a word to Greg. They
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Speaker 1: went to Greg's car. Greg hopped in the driver's seat
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Speaker 1: and Mark climbed into the back seat, and before long
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Speaker 1: they took off and began driving northeast. And for hours
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Speaker 1: these two just drove in total silence. Mark just stared
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Speaker 1: out the window and Greg focused on driving. The only
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Speaker 1: thing that happened during this multi hour long drive was
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Speaker 1: at some point Mark pulled out a piece of paper
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Speaker 1: from his coat pocket and he wrote something on it,
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Speaker 1: and then after staring at it, he kind of smiled
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Speaker 1: and tucked it into his shoe. And then a little
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Speaker 1: bit later Greg pulled over on the side of the
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Speaker 1: road and Douglas County, Wisconsin, on this random backcountry road.
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Speaker 1: And as soon as they pulled over again, without saying anything,
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Speaker 1: Greg and Mark got out of the car and they
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Speaker 1: went around to the back of the car where the
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Speaker 1: trunk was, and the two men are kind of stretching,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's been a long drive, taking in the scenery,
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Speaker 1: and then before long Greg pops open the trunk and
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Speaker 1: in the trunk is a rifle. Neither men have any
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Speaker 1: strong reaction to this, Greg just reaches down, pulls the
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Speaker 1: rifle out, and Mark commas can be just begins walking
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Speaker 1: over to the side of the road to the shoulder,
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Speaker 1: and then once he got to the shoulder, Greg came
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Speaker 1: over and stood right in front of him and just
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Speaker 1: looked intently into Mark's eyes, looking for the signal. And
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Speaker 1: at some point after Mark kind of composed himself, he
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Speaker 1: nodded at Greg, at which point Greg raised that rifle,
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Speaker 1: placed the barrel directly on Mark's chest, and fired. Mark
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Speaker 1: crumpled to the ground and he lay made there for
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Speaker 1: a second, just moaning horribly, and Greg just stood over him,
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Speaker 1: watching until finally Mark went silent and died, at which
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Speaker 1: point Greg casually went back to his car, got inside,
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Speaker 1: and drove home. The only time he stopped was to
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Speaker 1: throw his rifle into a nearby river. But once Greg
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Speaker 1: got home, he was overjoyed because he knew the sacred
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Speaker 1: ritual he had just carried out with Mark had been
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Speaker 1: a total success. It had gone exactly to plant. It
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Speaker 1: would turn out, Mark Foster was absolutely a member of
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Speaker 1: that religious group, the cult, if you will, except he
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Speaker 1: was not just a member, He was the cult's leader.
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Speaker 1: And Mark is the one who orchestrated his own death. However,
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Speaker 1: Mark did not view his death as him actually dying,
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Speaker 1: quite the opposite.
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Speaker 2: We celebrate life as we celebrate death. Death is nothing
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Speaker 2: to be afraid of. Death is a great crossroads, a
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Speaker 2: change in attitude, a change in longitude, a change in
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Speaker 2: a way that we pursued our spirit. When we reached
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Speaker 2: that porthole, they'll ring some golden half.
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Speaker 1: He believed that what he and Greg, his most devout follower,
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Speaker 1: were going to do this sacred ritual, was after Greg
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Speaker 1: fires the shot into his chest and ends this body's life,
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Speaker 1: that his soul, his consciousness, and his power will be
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Speaker 1: transferred into Greg. Basically, his soul will go into Greg.
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Speaker 1: And Mark believed once this transfer happened that basically he
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Speaker 1: would be immortal, that his soul would never die. It
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Speaker 1: would stay in Greg and then maybe at some point
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Speaker 1: get transferred to somebody else, but basically he would be
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Speaker 1: here forever. The bizarre note that was found in Mark
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Speaker 1: schue the note that he wrote and stuffed in there.
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Speaker 1: That note was designed to throw police off the trail.
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Speaker 1: He knew that he was having Greg murder him again
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Speaker 1: for this ritual, but he wanted to make sure Greg
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Speaker 1: didn't get caught, and so he wrote on the note
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Speaker 1: very specifically Jack Fraser and Jimmy Bailey. Those two people
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Speaker 1: he hated that they had been in past relationships with
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Speaker 1: his wife, and they hated him, And so he figured
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Speaker 1: if he was going to create a scapegoat for his murder,
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Speaker 1: who better than his romantic rivals. They had nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with it. He just named them in that cryptic
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Speaker 1: note to get them in trouble. As for all the
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Speaker 1: pornography and bondage gear that was found inside of Mark's home, well,
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Speaker 1: that all played a role in Marx's cult as well.
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Speaker 1: He was a firm believer that the more sex he
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Speaker 1: had with his followers, often multiple followers at the same time,
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Speaker 1: the more powerful he would become. As for the detective's
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Speaker 1: business cards found on the altar up in the attic,
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Speaker 1: those were very likely placed there by followers of Mark,
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Speaker 1: so members of the cult in an effort to potentially
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Speaker 1: thwart their efforts to solve the case. They might have
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Speaker 1: believed that by placing those on there and performing various
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Speaker 1: rituals that somehow would prevent them from solving the case.
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Speaker 1: We don't know for sure. That's the theory around why
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Speaker 1: they were there, but obviously that didn't work because the
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Speaker 1: detectives solved the case. Greg Freisner would ultimately be found
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Speaker 1: guilty for playing a role in Mark's death. Obviously was
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Speaker 1: the triggerman, and so he was sentenced to ten years
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Speaker 1: in prison. As for Mark's wife, although she definitely knew
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Speaker 1: about the cult and may have been a participant, there
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Speaker 1: was never any evidence that actually connected her to marx murder,
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Speaker 1: and so she was never charged with any crime.
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Speaker 3: An American submarine L two was hurrying to assist the
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Speaker 3: Portuguese freighter which had been torpedoed near Padstow, when she
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Speaker 3: had encountered UB six' five sitting motionless on the. Surface
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Speaker 3: As Lieutenant Augustine grant prepared to give the order to
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Speaker 3: sync the unsuspecting enemy, vessel he paused. Momentarily through his,
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Speaker 3: binoculars he could see that The german submarine was already
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Speaker 3: listing heavily to one side in the. Water he could
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Speaker 3: also make out the shape of a solitary officer standing
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Speaker 3: up on the ship's, deck apparently staring out to. Sea
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Speaker 3: before his excited men had even finished loading their submarines torpedo,
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Speaker 3: Tubes grant OBSERVED ub sixty five suddenly shake, violently as
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Speaker 3: if she had been hit by a huge, explosion before
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Speaker 3: she sank beneath the. Waves for the next, hour The
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Speaker 3: american vessel sailed back and forth searching for, survivors but
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Speaker 3: there were. None the haunted submarine had taken her entire
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Speaker 3: crew down with her to her, grave and almost ninety
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Speaker 3: years would pass before she was ever seen.
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