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INTERVIEW: Bobbi Brown Talks New Memoir 'Still Bobbi', Jones Road Beauty, Entrepreneurship, Motherhood + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Every day.
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Speaker 2: Up, Click up the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all, dump morning.
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Speaker 1: Everybody is the j n V. Just hilarious. Charlamagne the God.
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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. Laura Lorosa is here as well,
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Speaker 1: and we got a.
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Speaker 2: Special guest in the building, the legend Bobby Brown.
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Speaker 1: Hello, listen, which one now? I gotta tell me which one?
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Speaker 1: This is not new edition Boston, my prerogative, Bobby Brown.
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Speaker 1: This is Bobby Brown, makeup artists, entrepreneur, owner of Bobby
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Speaker 1: Brown Cosmetics and more. She has a new book out
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Speaker 1: right now called Still Bobby.
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Speaker 2: Well, hold on now. Bobby Brown Cosmetics was old?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that was That was the first one. Jones
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Speaker 3: Road is the new one.
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Speaker 4: I love that you have Jones Road. I'm gonna just
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Speaker 4: let you know right now. I hope this is not
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Speaker 4: of thing you I thought you were black. I ain't
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Speaker 4: gonna lie to you because you're Bobby Browne. It's so
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Speaker 4: good for my skin, our skin, you know what I'm saying.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and usually you.
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Speaker 4: Know, you know, we only we're the only ones who
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Speaker 4: know our skin.
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Speaker 3: But it's like, baby, Bobby, I'm you know, my background
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Speaker 3: as I'm a makeup artist. I spent my life doing makeup,
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Speaker 3: and I had this crazy idea that you should put
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Speaker 3: a foundation on that's the exact color of your skin.
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Speaker 4: The skin stick, the correct man everything that the foundation
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Speaker 4: with the sunscreen, the SBF.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jones Road is even better. Jones is even better.
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Speaker 3: But you know, I've I've I've done so many, so
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Speaker 3: many different makeups, so many celebrities, so many women, and
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Speaker 3: you know, it took a while to kind of teach
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Speaker 3: women that you just want to look good, you want
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Speaker 3: to look like yourself. I mean I used to do
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Speaker 3: with In Houston's makeup. She did not like the makeup
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Speaker 3: to look natural. She wanted a lighter foundation, and I
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Speaker 3: used to fight, I'm like, you can't.
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Speaker 4: It's got to match your skin, especially under them lights.
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Speaker 4: So thank you, miss.
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Speaker 3: I'm great. I'm great.
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Speaker 5: I want people to buy the book still, Bobby, but
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Speaker 5: I do want you to give them a little bit
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Speaker 5: of your history.
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Speaker 2: Like you started as a makeup artist.
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Speaker 5: How does the makeup artist go from that to creating
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Speaker 5: her first billion dollar brand?
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Speaker 2: Bobby brant Well, I.
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Speaker 3: Was a makeup artist that when I started in the eighties,
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Speaker 3: it was all really artificial makeup and just really not attractive,
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Speaker 3: and I started doing makeup a different way. But the
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Speaker 3: makeup on the market sucks. It was not good. I
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Speaker 3: used to have to fix everything. And one day I
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Speaker 3: met a chemist and I said, hey, I've always wanted
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Speaker 3: to make this lipstick, and he's like, I can make
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Speaker 3: it for you. So we made it, and I said,
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Speaker 3: I bet I could sell this, you know, And then
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Speaker 3: I thought about ten colors and I made it and
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Speaker 3: I started selling out of my house, you know, when
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Speaker 3: I had my first baby and my hometown of Montclair,
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Speaker 3: New Jersey, and I would be going into the city
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Speaker 3: to do fashion and Vogue and all that stuff. And
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Speaker 3: then it just kind of grew from there. And one
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Speaker 3: day I met someone and I talked to everybody because
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Speaker 3: I think most people are nice and interesting, and I said,
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Speaker 3: what do you do? She said, I'm a cosmetics buyer
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Speaker 3: at Burgdorf Goodman. I'm like, oh, I have this line
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Speaker 3: of makeup. I'm more. And I got into Bergdorf Goodman
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Speaker 3: didn't shop there at the time. Wow, But I sold
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Speaker 3: the makeup there and the rest is history. And then
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Speaker 3: we sold the company to Esti Lauder after four and
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Speaker 3: a half years.
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Speaker 5: Now, I don't want to give too much away, but
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Speaker 5: just break down the details of that situation.
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Speaker 2: I didn't even know that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, after four and a half years, we sold to
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Speaker 3: STI Lauder. I stayed as an corporate employee twenty two years.
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Speaker 3: You could read the book, you could text me afterwards
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Speaker 3: and ask me other questions. But you know, so that
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Speaker 3: was the first brand. And then I you know, while
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Speaker 3: I was I think the only reason I was able
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Speaker 3: to stay in corporate America because I am the least
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Speaker 3: corporate person you have ever met. I don't break the rules.
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Speaker 3: I just make up my own is. I used to
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Speaker 3: do all these cool things on the side. I was
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Speaker 3: an an entrepreneur, you know, so I did a lot
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Speaker 3: of different projects and you know, became a on Elvis Duran.
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Speaker 3: I became the beauty editor of Elvis Duran and Elves. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, by the way, that's how I
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Speaker 3: met Charlemagne. I was lucky enough to sit next to
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Speaker 3: him at a wedding, Elvis's wedding, yeah, which I guess
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Speaker 3: is like six years. I think he just celebrated. I
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Speaker 3: think so something something like that, and you know, and
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Speaker 3: I just liked this guy, and I'm like, let's have
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Speaker 3: dinner and he's like, all right, great, and we made
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Speaker 3: dinner plans and the rest is his.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what foundation.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's got such beautiful skin. He doesn't wear any that's.
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Speaker 4: His secrets of his which you would would would be
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Speaker 4: the shade back then.
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Speaker 2: Did you know him before that?
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Speaker 1: I did, I did not. I did not, But I
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Speaker 1: love that.
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Speaker 2: You had a nod compete for twenty.
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Speaker 3: Five twenty five years. And so when we sold the company,
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Speaker 3: I was thirty four. And when my husband said we
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Speaker 3: got this non compete, I mean I always got ds
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Speaker 3: in math that I'm very proud of. To be successful,
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Speaker 3: you know, and not be good in school, I think
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Speaker 3: is something to consider. But I counted on my fingers.
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Speaker 3: I said, well, I'll be sick in my sixties. I'm
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Speaker 3: not going to want to work when I'm in my sixties.
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Speaker 3: Fast forward, I'm sixty eight right now. So I started
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Speaker 3: this company really good.
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: I mean that, you know why, because I don't shoot
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Speaker 3: anything in my face? Okay, I'm shocked, you look really
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Speaker 3: really honestly, it's the truth, I think. But I'm also
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Speaker 3: into health and wellness and fitness, and you know.
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Speaker 1: So let me ask you about that, because it seems
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Speaker 1: like that's the new trend now. If you watch any
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Speaker 1: show on television, it's all about lip fillers and fillers
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Speaker 1: and botox and this talks and net talks and detox
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Speaker 1: and red talks. What do you think about someone that's.
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Speaker 3: I don't like it. I don't like I don't like
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Speaker 3: any of it. I don't I don't feel it looks natural.
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Speaker 3: I don't think it looks good. And I think you know,
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Speaker 3: the important thing is how you feel and your lifestyle choices.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I like to have fun like everyone, but
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Speaker 3: I know how to balance and I know what to
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Speaker 3: do to make me feel better. And when I look bad,
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Speaker 3: I don't run to the doctor to say fix me up.
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Speaker 3: I look at myself in the mirror and say, what
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Speaker 3: have you been doing that's not working? And change it?
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Speaker 6: Wow, So how do you implement?
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Speaker 2: She cut her off? She was a grown woman, and
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Speaker 2: you launched another brand?
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I launched another brand when the day my
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Speaker 3: non compete was out, and which was literally a week
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Speaker 3: before the presidential election. You remember that time, in the
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Speaker 3: middle of the pandemic. I just flicked the light up
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Speaker 3: and did three things and we launched the brand. Didn't
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Speaker 3: know what was going to happen and this we're celebrating
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Speaker 3: five years amazing. It's yeah, it's been amazing.
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Speaker 2: Now George rod Is a billion is like I got
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Speaker 2: to buy this one now too, right.
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Speaker 3: Something we're not for sale.
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Speaker 6: I forget what I was.
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Speaker 7: I guess now that we're here in that part of
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Speaker 7: your journey, like business wise, like what are your go to?
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Speaker 7: Like here's what I always rule of thumbs and business
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Speaker 7: because you make it just seems so effortless, like oh
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Speaker 7: I met a woman at Berdiff Goodman and boom, we're
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Speaker 7: in the store. I know it's not but in not
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Speaker 7: giving away too much from the book, but like, what
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Speaker 7: are those things that you kept very near and dear
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Speaker 7: to your chest?
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Speaker 3: It honestly you do every time, honestly, Like it's common sense.
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Speaker 3: It's just doing things the way you do things. And
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Speaker 3: it's doing things the way you know my parents taught me,
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Speaker 3: you know my grandparents, Like I grew up with this
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Speaker 3: loving family, complicated but loving and but they were you know,
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Speaker 3: everyone worked really hard, everyone worked really hard. Everyone had
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Speaker 3: to be nice. You had to be nice. You just
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Speaker 3: there was no excuse not to be nice, and you
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Speaker 3: had to you know, be a little creative with your thinking,
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Speaker 3: and when things didn't work, you're like, all right, that
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Speaker 3: didn't work, let me do something else. That's how I
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Speaker 3: lead business is like the same way I would lead
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Speaker 3: my life. And I'm like right to the point, like
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Speaker 3: I don't I don't mess around. I don't like when
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Speaker 3: people are like talking about what they should do and
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Speaker 3: how and strategizing. I've already done it. Yeah, I've already
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Speaker 3: done it.
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Speaker 1: Now how do you work with I know your son
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Speaker 1: is the CEO of your company. A lot of people say,
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Speaker 1: you know what, I don't want my family part of
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Speaker 1: the companies because family usually mess things up. You can't
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Speaker 1: talk the family. But you took a different route, So
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Speaker 1: break that down a little bit.
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Speaker 3: I did not choose to work with my family and
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Speaker 3: my I. You know, my husband and I. I've always
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Speaker 3: done everything with my husband. But our kids were not
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Speaker 3: interested three boys, none of them were interested in beauty
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Speaker 3: or business really, and it just kind of happened. Our
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Speaker 3: second son, Cody, who I named Dakota, which I thought
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Speaker 3: was the coolest name. But he's Cody. He came to
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Speaker 3: work with us on some growth things. He knows a
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Speaker 3: lot about digital marketing, he's he's now people meet us
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Speaker 3: and they're like, oh my god, your son is the
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Speaker 3: you know, is the guy. I'm like, yeah, I'm so
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Speaker 3: proud of that. But so he started helping and we
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Speaker 3: had to see a coeo, we had a president. One
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Speaker 3: by one, Cody started doing their jobs and so it's
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Speaker 3: like it's it seems like the more we get rid
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Speaker 3: of people, the better our team is. It's about having
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Speaker 3: like your community, your posse, and putting your heads together
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Speaker 3: and figuring out what to do. And he's been incredible.
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just been incredible, and it's not the
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Speaker 3: easiest thing working with the family.
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Speaker 2: Sure.
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Speaker 3: On top of that, my head of brand is his wife,
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Speaker 3: which is amazing, and she's a very beautiful, tough, smart woman.
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Speaker 3: And they have my two grandkids. So I've learned, you know,
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Speaker 3: the most important thing in my life is not to
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Speaker 3: piss them off, because I want to see those grand
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Speaker 3: kids every single day.
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Speaker 5: How has motherhood influenced your philosophy and business our beauty?
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Speaker 3: You know, the greatest thing about being a woman and
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Speaker 3: being a mother is we know how to multitask. If
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Speaker 3: I ask my husband or my chiropractor, any guy a question,
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Speaker 3: they stop what they're doing and answer you women, you
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Speaker 3: ask a question. You know, we're on the phone, we're
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Speaker 3: getting her nails done, we're chopping vegetables. So it's you know,
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Speaker 3: I just think being a mom, I have figured things out,
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Speaker 3: you know, how to get the kids ready for all
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Speaker 3: the things. I mean, you tell me, how's it like,
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Speaker 3: you know, having four daughters and watching your success and
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Speaker 3: how do you fit it all in? Well, I know
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Speaker 3: how you fit it in. You the best wife.
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Speaker 5: Give her all the credit. I'm just here, like she handles,
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Speaker 5: she's the CEO of the household. Yeah, and she makes
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Speaker 5: our lives that much easier.
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Speaker 3: And she just loves you, man, she does you know.
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Speaker 5: So if I told my daughter that last name, my
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Speaker 5: ten year old, I was like, this is the most
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Speaker 5: important woman in all life. Then my wife goes, I right,
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Speaker 5: stop gassing it up, and I'm like, who else would
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Speaker 5: it be?
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Speaker 2: It's not you? And I really feel that way.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's evident.
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Speaker 6: You dedicated your book to your husband.
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Speaker 3: He is the light of my life. He's amazing. And
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Speaker 3: by the way, we've been married thirty seven years. It's
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Speaker 3: not easy, guys, nothing's easy, right, Is there anything easy
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Speaker 3: in this world? Nothing's easy. I work really hard.
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Speaker 4: You know, how is the impacted that that journey, you know,
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Speaker 4: between you know, the woman you are, your professionalism, business owner,
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Speaker 4: all of that house. He impacted that.
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Speaker 7: You know.
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Speaker 3: He's look, I can't do anything without him, because I'm
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Speaker 3: the one that's like, oh my god, how am I
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Speaker 3: going to do this? I'm only four hours sleep I
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Speaker 3: just got back for and he's like, come down, come down, breathe.
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Speaker 3: That was what he said to me on my way
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Speaker 3: out of the door this morning, he said, breathe. I don't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't. That was my first Poe.
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Speaker 2: Was there anything you discovered about yourself?
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Speaker 5: You know, maybe something that even surprised you in the
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Speaker 5: process of writing this book reflecting on your journey?
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Speaker 3: Actually yes, and I suggest everyone writes a memoir at
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Speaker 3: some time in their life, even if it's not to
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Speaker 3: be published, because it's very cathartic. You know. It's not
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Speaker 3: like being in therapy where you discuss things. But when
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Speaker 3: people ask you questions and you're talking about your journey,
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Speaker 3: you start to tie things together. And I realized how
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Speaker 3: watching Papa Sam and his car business, who came from
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Speaker 3: another country, you know, watching my dad kind of go
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Speaker 3: through different. He was a lawyer, but then he kept
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Speaker 3: hating it and doing other things and then coming back
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Speaker 3: to it because that's what paid the bills. I realized
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Speaker 3: some of my entrepreneurial spirit is from watching all my
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Speaker 3: family members.
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Speaker 7: The girls who are like starting today where they're not
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Speaker 7: doing like magazines because everything's digital and they're trying to
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Speaker 7: grow their brains like physical products. What do you advise
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Speaker 7: them to do because everybody's online with a product now right.
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Speaker 3: Well, you just you know, I have a lot of
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Speaker 3: you know, female founder friends and male founder friends, and
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Speaker 3: I help them all and I tell them the same
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Speaker 3: thing my husband tells me is breathe first of all,
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Speaker 3: and just keep doing it. You just gotta like how
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Speaker 3: do you start? You just start, and you just keep
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Speaker 3: doing it. Put a post up if it didn't work,
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Speaker 3: figure out what are you going to do next? And
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Speaker 3: you know, and meet people, you know, get out there
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Speaker 3: and meet people.
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Speaker 1: I was going to ask, you know, why is it
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Speaker 1: so important to you to document a lot of this,
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Speaker 1: this is your tenth book, like to share a lot
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Speaker 1: of knowledge. Why is that important to you?
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Speaker 3: Well? I think somehow, you know, all I wanted to
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Speaker 3: do when I was a kid, was be a teacher
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Speaker 3: and a mother, So I'm kind of both, right. I mean,
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Speaker 3: I'm a mother, I'm definitely a teacher. I like I
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Speaker 3: like to learn. I'm like I'm like notorious for like
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Speaker 3: wanting to try new things and learn new things. I
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Speaker 3: like to around myself with really smart people to teach
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Speaker 3: me things. But I also like to surround myself with
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Speaker 3: young people that I would like to teach certain things.
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Speaker 3: You know, how you can have And I'm hoping this
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Speaker 3: book is going to serve as you know, many different
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Speaker 3: things for people, but for young for a young person
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Speaker 3: to read and say, wow, you can do these things,
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Speaker 3: and you know you don't have to do everything so well.
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Speaker 3: I don't have to be perfect.
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you know, we see it here
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Speaker 1: a lot of people all the time, women and men
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Speaker 1: that's trying to create their own company, right, their own
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Speaker 1: lipstick line, their own hair line, and it's very difficult. Right,
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Speaker 1: what would you tell that young entrepreneur that's trying to
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Speaker 1: break through the doors and they're having a problems. Target
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Speaker 1: won't take their calls, Bloomingdale's won't take their calls, Macy's
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Speaker 1: tells them no, or they don't have enough stop what
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Speaker 1: do you tell that young entrepreneur.
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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I tell everyone, try to work
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Speaker 3: for someone first. Try to spend a year, and you know,
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Speaker 3: just think of it as being in school. Go work
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Speaker 3: for a company that you admire. I don't care if
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Speaker 3: you have to be the receptionist or social media manager.
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Speaker 3: Just see how things are. And when you're ready to
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Speaker 3: launch your own business, don't don't overinvest, because then you're
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Speaker 3: going to be stuck. People think it takes a lot
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Speaker 3: of money, And do it really slow and make sure
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Speaker 3: what you're doing is different than what's on the market.
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Speaker 3: And if you don't know if it's gonna work, just
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Speaker 3: make a couple things figure out. You know. People come
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Speaker 3: to me with these big decks and they're the most
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Speaker 3: beautiful decks and like, oh, this sounds amazing. Can I
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Speaker 3: try the product? Well I don't have the product. Well,
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Speaker 3: how do you know it's going to work? I mean,
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Speaker 3: you know, I had this one girl with a Harvard
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Speaker 3: degree come to me with this beautiful deck. I said, right,
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Speaker 3: let me try it. She was a woman of color.
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Speaker 3: She wanted to make this special sun screen that looked
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Speaker 3: she didn't even know where the lab was. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: how could you do all this until you actually know
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Speaker 3: the product works, and you know when you do have
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Speaker 3: one that you think is great, put it in little
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Speaker 3: containers and start giving it to all your friends. If
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Speaker 3: they like it, then give it to other people. Like,
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Speaker 3: just start slow. You don't need like people think you
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Speaker 3: need it all figured out.
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Speaker 5: I want to say, this is a woman who's been
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Speaker 5: two billion dollar brands telling y'all it is okay to
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Speaker 5: have a job.
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Speaker 1: Okay, said worked for years.
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Speaker 2: So I'm saying, but most people will be like, we haven't.
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Speaker 2: We know a lot of entrepreneurs that no, I no,
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Speaker 2: I don't want to have a job. You shouldn't have
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Speaker 2: a boss.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. First of all, you got to learn things like
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Speaker 3: arriving on time, saying hello, or if you're late, calling
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Speaker 3: and saying I'm so sorry I'm late. How do you
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Speaker 3: learn those things? And you also have to figure out
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Speaker 3: how you can work with other people, and so you
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Speaker 3: know it's okay to work with people that you don't
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Speaker 3: like because you have to learn how to do it.
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Speaker 3: Like all these things in life, we're learning things.
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Speaker 1: I was gonna ask with makeup, it seems like it's
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Speaker 1: a it's a difficult industry, right, And the reason I
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Speaker 1: say that is like the red lipstick, right, Charlemagne puts
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Speaker 1: it on his lips and he might have a reaction
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Speaker 1: to it. That's a fantasy or you know something like that.
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Speaker 1: You never know what product works with somebody's skin. How
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Speaker 1: do you go around that to make sure something can
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Speaker 1: work for I guess everybody? Or do you say I'm
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Speaker 1: looking for a particular market and I'm going to focus
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Speaker 1: for that.
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Speaker 3: You know, either one of those work, it doesn't really matter.
16:06
Speaker 3: I mean, Jones Road is a clean makeup brand, so
16:09
Speaker 3: I know people are not going to have problems with it.
16:13
Speaker 3: You know. I also know the only people that aren't
16:15
Speaker 3: going to like Jones Road are people that like artificial makeup.
16:19
Speaker 3: If you like artificial makeup and want to look like that,
16:22
Speaker 3: there's other brands for you. So I don't have to
16:24
Speaker 3: be everything for everybody, but you know what I want.
16:28
Speaker 3: It's you know why Jones Road. I think one of
16:31
Speaker 3: the reasons why it's successful is because it's what I
16:35
Speaker 3: believe in, which is makeup that when you put it on,
16:38
Speaker 3: you just look better and you don't know why, because
16:41
Speaker 3: it's almost like magic. You're like, oh my god, what happened?
16:45
Speaker 3: Because it looks like you. You look less tired, your
16:48
Speaker 3: skin looks more even, it looks fresh. But that's my aesthetic.
16:54
Speaker 3: It's not every makeup founder's aesthetic. And my biggest warning
16:58
Speaker 3: to people that want to start their own brand is
17:00
Speaker 3: don't just go out there and do what other people
17:02
Speaker 3: are doing. It's you got to have a point of
17:05
Speaker 3: difference or you're just gonna sit there and you're gonna
17:08
Speaker 3: invest too much money. You're gonna borrow from everyone you know,
17:10
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna be like, well, this don't work.
17:14
Speaker 7: I saw your your master class and most people hear.
17:17
Speaker 7: And you want to be a teacher, makes a lot
17:19
Speaker 7: of sense most people who teach. While teaching, you're still
17:21
Speaker 7: learning a lot from other people. What are you still
17:23
Speaker 7: learning today with all the this success?
17:25
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm learning so much. First of all,
17:27
Speaker 3: I'm you know, I'm learning a lot. I'm learning. I'm
17:30
Speaker 3: learning how to hip hop. That's, you know, the most
17:32
Speaker 3: important thing which I need some help with. I love.
17:34
Speaker 3: There's nothing I like better in life than dancing. And
17:38
Speaker 3: I'm have you ever seen a Jewish girl dance?
17:41
Speaker 7: It's not but I do it anyway about the dance, huh,
17:44
Speaker 7: I thought you were getting up the dance.
17:48
Speaker 3: No, but that's how I wake up every day. As
17:50
Speaker 3: I put I followed this guy in the UK who's
17:52
Speaker 3: a hip hop dancer and I and it just gets
17:55
Speaker 3: my brain going in the morning. But that, I know,
17:57
Speaker 3: that wasn't the question. What was the question? Please?
17:59
Speaker 6: What are you still learning in today? Like you with
18:01
Speaker 6: all your success?
18:04
Speaker 7: You know?
18:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean just trying new things and just being
18:07
Speaker 3: curious and you never you never know who you're gonna
18:11
Speaker 3: meet and what interesting thing is going to happen because
18:13
Speaker 3: of it.
18:13
Speaker 5: You don't say learning how to hip hop, I'm learning.
18:19
Speaker 2: Learning how to dance.
18:20
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like the stuff I say to my husband
18:22
Speaker 3: about golf. I'm you know something, Oh you're playing whatever
18:25
Speaker 3: I say, it's never the right thing about golf.
18:27
Speaker 2: Now.
18:27
Speaker 1: I wanted to go back to your artificial What is
18:30
Speaker 1: the difference and does that affect skin?
18:32
Speaker 2: Right?
18:32
Speaker 1: Because my daughters danced, Yeah, and they have to wear makeup,
18:36
Speaker 1: oh yes, you know, because it's hair back. And I
18:40
Speaker 1: always wonder will that makeup that they put on affect
18:43
Speaker 1: them later on?
18:44
Speaker 3: As long as they wash their face before they go
18:46
Speaker 3: to bed. Most of the time, if they miss it
18:48
Speaker 3: a day or two they're gonna be fine. But no,
18:51
Speaker 3: as long as you take care of your skin, then
18:54
Speaker 3: you're gonna be fine. And it's not even the makeup
18:56
Speaker 3: on your skin that makes problems.
18:58
Speaker 1: It's like you see people with the creatives sometimes. I
19:00
Speaker 1: always wonder if that's like an effect of makeup that too.
19:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think look at your head.
19:06
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying that.
19:08
Speaker 7: If your hair is dirty and touches your face, yeah, you've.
19:11
Speaker 3: Got to You've got to clean yourself. But you also
19:13
Speaker 3: have to really realize so much of skin. You know,
19:16
Speaker 3: skin's an organ. It's the food you put in your body.
19:18
Speaker 3: And if you're eating junk food all day long, every day,
19:22
Speaker 3: you're gonna look like junk.
19:24
Speaker 2: Damn.
19:24
Speaker 3: What about fried chicken, Bobby? You know what just do?
19:27
Speaker 3: First of all, I also went back to school got
19:29
Speaker 3: my degree as a health coach. So fried chicken, French fries,
19:33
Speaker 3: those things that taste good, just do less of it.
19:36
Speaker 3: Just don't have it as your everyday diet unless you
19:39
Speaker 3: don't care about how you feel. I mean, maybe you
19:42
Speaker 3: feel good. I don't know. I don't feel good when
19:45
Speaker 3: I eat junky food.
19:47
Speaker 7: You know, that's interesting to hear you talk about going
19:49
Speaker 7: back to school because a lot of a lot of entrepreneurs,
19:50
Speaker 7: especially in the beauty space too, will say they don't
19:52
Speaker 7: do school because it doesn't like nothing creative comes out
19:55
Speaker 7: of being in college, of being in a classroom.
19:57
Speaker 6: A lot of people feel like that as well.
19:58
Speaker 1: Well.
19:59
Speaker 3: I went to my third college, which was Emerson College
20:01
Speaker 3: in Boston. I went because I wanted to study theatrical makeup.
20:06
Speaker 3: They let me. They didn't have a course. They let
20:08
Speaker 3: me make up my own course. Well, I didn't know
20:11
Speaker 3: the word entrepreneur back then. I still don't know how
20:13
Speaker 3: to spell it, by the way, but they let me
20:16
Speaker 3: make it up. So I learned how to kind of
20:19
Speaker 3: craft my own road by going to school. So I
20:22
Speaker 3: have a degree in theatrical makeup.
20:24
Speaker 1: Wow.
20:25
Speaker 5: The thing I love about still Bobby the most is
20:27
Speaker 5: like it just shows how rooted and family you are.
20:30
Speaker 5: And when you think about the two major brands that
20:33
Speaker 5: you've built and you raised a family, what was some
20:35
Speaker 5: of the hardest trade offs you had to make?
20:37
Speaker 3: It was tough. I mean, you know, I when you
20:41
Speaker 3: commit to a certain trip, if something comes up, I
20:44
Speaker 3: couldn't cancel it, you know. I once was supposed to
20:47
Speaker 3: do like this big fashion show, and I said yes
20:50
Speaker 3: to it. It was confirmed, and then my kids and
20:53
Speaker 3: my husband said they're gone skiing. Whatever break it was,
20:57
Speaker 3: I canceled the fashion show and guess what, they never
21:00
Speaker 3: hired me again. Opes. Oh well, so every year I
21:04
Speaker 3: made sure I went to the principal the first day's
21:06
Speaker 3: school with lip glosses, say hi, you know, here's some
21:10
Speaker 3: a gift for you. Could you please tell me what
21:13
Speaker 3: are the dates?
21:14
Speaker 2: Like?
21:14
Speaker 3: When is the school sing along? When's you know, the
21:17
Speaker 3: teachers conferences? Because I wanted to be there and I
21:19
Speaker 3: put them in my calendar, so I blocked those out
21:23
Speaker 3: and I never missed one. I think I missed one
21:27
Speaker 3: out of all the years of the three kids one
21:29
Speaker 3: of their singalongs. And my kids are wonderful, but they
21:33
Speaker 3: got no talent. But I was at every sing along.
21:35
Speaker 3: None of them could sing, none of them could dance,
21:38
Speaker 3: but I was.
21:39
Speaker 2: There looking back, Would you change how you balanced those roles?
21:42
Speaker 7: No?
21:42
Speaker 3: I got really lucky. I really did put my family first.
21:46
Speaker 3: And you know, my kids might say I wasn't there
21:50
Speaker 3: all the time, but for a working mom, I was there.
21:53
Speaker 3: I was the class mom almost every year for at
21:55
Speaker 3: least one of them. You know, and it was so
21:57
Speaker 3: stressful for me because I don't know how to type.
22:00
Speaker 3: And how could you be a class mom and not
22:01
Speaker 3: know how to type. I don't know how to type.
22:03
Speaker 5: What would you say to women who feel like they
22:05
Speaker 5: can't have it all, like they can't balance it all?
22:09
Speaker 3: You do what you can. I mean, I got better
22:11
Speaker 3: as I got older, Like I was not this Bobby
22:14
Speaker 3: Brown when I was a thirty year old, you know,
22:17
Speaker 3: worker or mom. I got better and I just learned.
22:22
Speaker 3: I like hacked my life. I just, you know, I
22:25
Speaker 3: hacked my life things that were stressful, like you know,
22:27
Speaker 3: realizing your kid is a birthday party on a Saturday
22:30
Speaker 3: and you didn't buy a gift and you run out
22:32
Speaker 3: you buy a gift and then you come home and
22:33
Speaker 3: you got to wrap it and you gotta get the
22:34
Speaker 3: kid ready. I'm like, this is stupid. I went to
22:37
Speaker 3: the local bookstore and I bought gift certificates for ten
22:40
Speaker 3: and twenty dollars, and every time they had a birthday party,
22:42
Speaker 3: I just threw a couple in an envelope like I'm done.
22:45
Speaker 1: Well, I've been doing that one, I know, but I
22:47
Speaker 1: didn't think of that. That's an easy one. Yeah, A
22:49
Speaker 1: bunch of GI certificates. Go ahead, every one.
22:51
Speaker 2: We yeah, six six kads?
22:52
Speaker 1: Yeah it Me and my wife got six wow, married
22:55
Speaker 1: twenty four years, Yeah, six kids. Logan's number two. Madison
22:59
Speaker 1: is old.
23:00
Speaker 3: Didn't know you guys were married.
23:00
Speaker 4: No, she has a Mexican I don't have a Mexican.
23:15
Speaker 4: Mexican crazy. We have two kids, and I'm going to
23:18
Speaker 4: get my wife of six.
23:20
Speaker 3: And you have four.
23:22
Speaker 4: And I'm showing ask you that question because that's what
23:24
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do now, trying to balance, you know,
23:27
Speaker 4: the work, the mom life, everything I have going on.
23:30
Speaker 3: Don't worry when your kids are out of the house.
23:32
Speaker 3: She'll have it together, okay, And you know what, so
23:35
Speaker 3: what you don't have it together? I remember, you know,
23:38
Speaker 3: and I had to be a corporate person and dress
23:39
Speaker 3: up and show up like, you know, like I was
23:42
Speaker 3: Melanie Griffith and working girl. You know, I didn't know anything.
23:45
Speaker 3: And I'll never forget. Tina Brown, who was this big
23:48
Speaker 3: editor in chief, was on stage once and someone asked
23:51
Speaker 3: her how she did it. She goes, oh my god,
23:53
Speaker 3: it was a ship show. It was always a mess.
23:55
Speaker 3: I always forgot things, and that just gave me permission
23:58
Speaker 3: to be like, yeah, to be real, Like that's my advice.
24:01
Speaker 3: Be real, Yes, it's sometimes it's a shit show. And
24:04
Speaker 3: tell your boss if you're gonna be late, tell them
24:08
Speaker 3: if there's a reason you're not your best self, maybe
24:11
Speaker 3: the kid didn't sleep all night, whatever it is. Yeah,
24:14
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, be real and don't worry about it.
24:17
Speaker 5: How important is people knowing Bobby Brown the person to
24:21
Speaker 5: Bobby Brown the brand.
24:23
Speaker 3: Well, I think people get confused. They think I am
24:25
Speaker 3: still with the brand and I am not. The book
24:29
Speaker 3: tells the whole story. And yeah, it was hard. You know,
24:32
Speaker 3: I don't own my name, so I can't just you know,
24:35
Speaker 3: slap my name on things or use it the way
24:38
Speaker 3: I want. But it's okay. You know, I've been able
24:40
Speaker 3: to my husband and I have probably sent twenty twenty
24:42
Speaker 3: five kids to college, so it's it's okay. I'm glad,
24:46
Speaker 3: you know, I'm at peace with it. And Jones Road,
24:50
Speaker 3: you know, just came. I found it on Ways when
24:53
Speaker 3: I was given my husband direction, and I'm like, oh,
24:55
Speaker 3: that sounds like a cool name.
24:57
Speaker 2: But I feel like Bobby bron the person is the brand.
25:00
Speaker 3: There, Bobby Brown the person is the Jones Road brand. Yeah,
25:03
Speaker 3: it's not. I know it's complicated, right, it's complicated. But
25:08
Speaker 3: you know, there's Calvin Klein, there's HARMANI, there's all you know,
25:11
Speaker 3: Donna Karen. So it's you know, it is the way
25:15
Speaker 3: of the world. But you know, yeah, I Bobby Brown.
25:21
Speaker 3: I mean, who knew people were brands, but we are apparently.
25:25
Speaker 5: I was alway Jones Road.
25:27
Speaker 4: The significance behind that is just you just saw it
25:29
Speaker 4: on Wait.
25:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, my husband said, if I didn't have a name
25:32
Speaker 3: by Monday. It was a Friday. We were driving to
25:34
Speaker 3: the Hampton's and my husband always has me look at
25:36
Speaker 3: ways and Google Maps because god forbid, we're five minutes late,
25:40
Speaker 3: even though we have nowhere to go. So my head
25:43
Speaker 3: was down and I saw Jones Road and I said,
25:45
Speaker 3: Jones Road. Makeup Instantly, I thought it sounded like a
25:48
Speaker 3: British bespoke, you know brand, And I thought, oh, that's
25:52
Speaker 3: a cool name. And I can't use Brown, I might
25:54
Speaker 3: as well use Jones. So he said I like it,
25:58
Speaker 3: and it was available, and that's how it became Jones Road.
26:01
Speaker 7: Why don't you believe in contoorn.
26:04
Speaker 3: Because what's wrong with your face? Then you need to contour.
26:08
Speaker 7: I think when you contour, it just gives you like this,
26:10
Speaker 7: like slim like pool together. Like I see the difference
26:13
Speaker 7: in photos when I contour when I don't. My face
26:15
Speaker 7: is fire either way, but I do see. But I
26:19
Speaker 7: do see the difference.
26:20
Speaker 3: A lot of people that contour. First of all, it
26:23
Speaker 3: makes them think there's something wrong with their face. Contour
26:28
Speaker 3: is when you put something dark to make it recede.
26:31
Speaker 3: Like I like to contour my stomach. I'm sorry, put
26:34
Speaker 3: something nice and tight on. I will contour that all day.
26:36
Speaker 3: But my face, well first, so I don't. I don't
26:38
Speaker 3: have a lot of fat in my face, so I
26:40
Speaker 3: like to use blush to make my face look a
26:42
Speaker 3: little bit fuller. And I don't know. I think people
26:45
Speaker 3: are beautiful as they are. They don't need to change
26:47
Speaker 3: the shape of their nose.
26:49
Speaker 1: Oh that's the thing where I see online where they
26:51
Speaker 1: put the dog online.
26:52
Speaker 5: And make the.
26:54
Speaker 6: Cheeks too.
26:56
Speaker 5: And you know you didn't have to get a those job.
27:00
Speaker 1: I did not get a noose jobs. If he did
27:03
Speaker 1: tell her what happened to no, I did not. I
27:05
Speaker 1: was ignoring a lot. So when I went to the doctor,
27:07
Speaker 1: they removed the polyps. That was it. There was no
27:09
Speaker 1: nose job. It's the same nose, Flimmers.
27:13
Speaker 2: I'm not judging fixed.
27:15
Speaker 3: You have a beautiful nose.
27:17
Speaker 1: He does eyebrows though, you see that way You never
27:21
Speaker 1: did you eyebrows?
27:22
Speaker 3: Wow?
27:22
Speaker 2: In high school.
27:25
Speaker 3: With me being an adult and you know, guys are
27:27
Speaker 3: allowed to groom. Guys are allowed to groom. It's not
27:30
Speaker 3: a bad thing.
27:31
Speaker 5: Yeah, what was the most difficult memory our chapter for
27:35
Speaker 5: you to revisit while he was writing?
27:37
Speaker 3: You know, it's really funny because I had a you know,
27:39
Speaker 3: it's an audible book too right now, So I had
27:41
Speaker 3: to I had to read it and I cried once.
27:43
Speaker 3: And it was talking about my mother in law that
27:46
Speaker 3: I just adored her, and I just you know, the
27:49
Speaker 3: hard part, the hard weird thing is all the people
27:51
Speaker 3: that were my family are not alive anymore, right, like
27:55
Speaker 3: my original Chicago family. I mean, my dad is ninety
27:59
Speaker 3: right now and he's still there, but he's only one.
28:02
Speaker 3: You know. I lost a brother, I lost a mom,
28:04
Speaker 3: I lost my grandparents, you know. And it's like and
28:07
Speaker 3: my ninety four year old aunt Dallas is still there,
28:10
Speaker 3: sharp as attack. She has a boyfriend who's ninety five. Wow,
28:14
Speaker 3: and she's interviewing me on stage in Chicago when I
28:17
Speaker 3: come there at her retirement community. Wow, that's what I'm
28:21
Speaker 3: excited about this book tour. When are you going to
28:23
Speaker 3: Chicago October tenth or something?
28:26
Speaker 5: How did that make you look at your own mortality?
28:31
Speaker 3: You know? I look, it's weird because I know, you know,
28:34
Speaker 3: my parents were twenty and twenty one when I was born,
28:37
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I'm just twenty years to go, right,
28:42
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like, you know, I hope to live
28:44
Speaker 3: over ninety. But it's like shit, you know sixty eight guys,
28:48
Speaker 3: like it's totally young. Keep learning hip path.
28:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes me years off.
28:55
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm gonna text Flo Rider to come
28:57
Speaker 3: DJ my birthday and Floriade's if they today. Actually, I
29:01
Speaker 3: can't believe it. I hoped. My One of my best
29:03
Speaker 3: memories of my life is hop it on stage with
29:05
Speaker 3: Flow Rider made he put his chains on me and
29:08
Speaker 3: I Also I also hopped on stage with Salt and Pepper.
29:12
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you did the Apple bottom Jean, you
29:15
Speaker 1: did all that. You did push it.
29:17
Speaker 3: No, we didn't do push it. We did get low.
29:20
Speaker 3: I got low with Flow. Well, you know, my dad's
29:27
Speaker 3: name is James Brown. So when you meet my dad,
29:31
Speaker 3: you'd be like, James Brown is like, yeah, I feel good.
29:33
Speaker 3: How are you saying that for ninety years?
29:36
Speaker 1: James to great.
29:40
Speaker 7: Part one of your book is now where You're from?
29:42
Speaker 7: Talking about your family, and then you go into your
29:44
Speaker 7: nana and your papa. Right, Why why is knowing where
29:47
Speaker 7: you're from? Or how has that been so important in
29:49
Speaker 7: every brain you've created?
29:51
Speaker 3: Because it's who I am? Right, it's you know, being
29:54
Speaker 3: from Chicago has made me like a much I think,
29:57
Speaker 3: a much more like stable person with my feet in
30:00
Speaker 3: the ground, you know. I know Charlemagne talks about where
30:04
Speaker 3: he comes from. I just think it's important. And by
30:07
Speaker 3: the way, some people say my childhood was complicated, and
30:12
Speaker 3: I don't look at it that way. I mean things happened,
30:15
Speaker 3: and I moved around it, and I you know, I
30:19
Speaker 3: take the good stuff and I don't blame anyone for anything, right.
30:24
Speaker 3: I mean my mother there's a story in the book
30:26
Speaker 3: where she told me I was really pretty and I said,
30:28
Speaker 3: thank you. She said, but you'd be gorgeous if you
30:29
Speaker 3: had your nose fixed, and I didn't clearly, and I
30:34
Speaker 3: just it didn't define me, but it did push me
30:37
Speaker 3: to help people appreciate who they are.
30:41
Speaker 7: Oh so that that that's what steers you away from
30:43
Speaker 7: the contour.
30:44
Speaker 3: I think yeah, I think so. And you know, every
30:46
Speaker 3: time I'd go to Asia and I would tell the
30:48
Speaker 3: women they're beautiful, they would just say, oh no, my
30:50
Speaker 3: eyes are this and my feet and I'm like no.
30:53
Speaker 3: And you know, in women of color, it's like, guys,
30:56
Speaker 3: you have this beauty that we don't have, like, appreciate it,
31:00
Speaker 3: your skin color, your features, everything. And you know, to
31:03
Speaker 3: my fellow friends with lips small, you know that match
31:07
Speaker 3: their faces, leave those things alone.
31:10
Speaker 1: Right, Like people look so stupid with them their lips.
31:12
Speaker 3: Who if you get it's just it doesn't work even
31:15
Speaker 3: when you just I'm just gonna do a teeny bit. No,
31:17
Speaker 3: you look like a duck.
31:20
Speaker 2: How do you define authenticity?
31:22
Speaker 3: But just be yourself, be real, Just be yourself, be real.
31:26
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, now it's a trend. Being
31:28
Speaker 3: authentic as a trend.
31:30
Speaker 5: Okay, great, has your definition of authenticity I've a shifted
31:34
Speaker 5: over time?
31:35
Speaker 3: No, I think I think I've gotten much more comfortable
31:38
Speaker 3: with who I am. And that's that's a good part
31:41
Speaker 3: about getting older. You're like, you realize I tried on
31:44
Speaker 3: everyone else and it didn't work right.
31:48
Speaker 7: I was gonna ask about your light weight makeup approach,
31:51
Speaker 7: like that's like your your calling card. How do you
31:54
Speaker 7: deal with people who are on the other side that
31:56
Speaker 7: feel like lightweight makeup isn't as substantial or doesn't show
31:59
Speaker 7: up the best.
32:00
Speaker 6: I like when people are complaining that things are so.
32:02
Speaker 3: Late, it's fine, stop complaining, go use something else. It's fine. Yeah.
32:06
Speaker 3: I mean there's you know, like not everything works for everybody,
32:09
Speaker 3: and that's okay.
32:11
Speaker 6: You have such a simple approach to everything.
32:13
Speaker 1: Everything is.
32:16
Speaker 7: Yeah, it seems so like to get to where you
32:18
Speaker 7: are and what you do, especially with product you it
32:21
Speaker 7: feels so heavy when you're trying to do it, but
32:23
Speaker 7: you were sitting here just like no, well first.
32:25
Speaker 3: Of all, and also don't forget about your people around you.
32:29
Speaker 3: Ask their opinion. Do you like this? Like that's how
32:31
Speaker 3: I started. I had these little you know, I made
32:34
Speaker 3: Miracle Balm. I didn't know it was going to be
32:35
Speaker 3: this big company. It was during the pandemic. I put
32:38
Speaker 3: it in little things and I sent it to all
32:40
Speaker 3: my friends and they would call me up and say,
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Speaker 3: what is this? I need more? And it was during
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Speaker 3: the pandemic. They would call and say, all right, I
32:48
Speaker 3: need more. I'm coming to your house. But they would
32:50
Speaker 3: stand outside and I'd have to throw it from from
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Speaker 3: my you know, porch to them, and I knew I
32:56
Speaker 3: had something. But that's how I started my market research.
32:59
Speaker 3: I didn't hire a market research company. I just asked people.
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Speaker 3: And when I made my first lipstix years ago, I
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Speaker 3: would go to the park and the nannies were from
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Speaker 3: all over the world. They had all different coloring and
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Speaker 3: all different color lips. They would try things and I
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Speaker 3: would see how it looked on them. That was another
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Speaker 3: focus group. Mmmm, it's just common sense.
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Speaker 5: Amazing.
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Speaker 2: What do you hope readers take away from still Bobby?
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Speaker 3: You know, I hope it gives them encouragement to, you know,
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Speaker 3: to live their life their way and you know, and
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Speaker 3: and it's not as difficult as you make it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: and just be be naive, be positive, and you know,
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Speaker 3: just work hard and keep at it and just be nice.
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Speaker 2: And I noticed just the first week of a book.
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Speaker 5: But now that you shared this memoir, what's next, Like,
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Speaker 5: what are you excited to accomplish or create moving forward?
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Speaker 2: Not even just in the beauty world, just life.
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Speaker 3: You know, I try, I try things, like I did
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Speaker 3: a you know, a series on YouTube that I can't
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Speaker 3: seem to get enough eyeballs on called I Am Me,
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Speaker 3: which I interview all these really cool women. You know,
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Speaker 3: I don't know how to get more eyeballs on it,
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Speaker 3: but that's fun. You know. It was sponsored by JP Morgan,
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Speaker 3: which is cool, and I'm like, all right, I'll just
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Speaker 3: keep trying stuff.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: I had a podcast with iHeart. It was cool. It
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Speaker 3: was fun, don't you know. I'm like, I don't know,
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Speaker 3: maybe I'll do something else. I don't know, I don't know.
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Speaker 5: You get eyeballs on it by going on Mail show.
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Speaker 5: You go on Mail Robins Show and you tell everybody.
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Speaker 2: You had.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, all right, well that's on my list. I
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Speaker 3: have her and I have one other one and then
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Speaker 3: I'm good, okay, yeah, and I'm good. I wanted this
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Speaker 3: was on my list. So thank you for this. And
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Speaker 3: by the way, when I became Time one hundred this
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Speaker 3: year and ready to thank you, and they said, we're
34:42
Speaker 3: going to reach out to someone you know, who would
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Speaker 3: you like to write this thing? And they said we
34:47
Speaker 3: need five people, and I ranked them and number one said, yes,
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Speaker 3: it was Charlott Magne. But so I so there I
34:53
Speaker 3: was walk in the red carpet. You know, Bobby look here, Bobby,
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Speaker 3: look here. People didn't say how do you feel about this?
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Speaker 3: You know what they said to me? How do you know, Charlemagne?
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Speaker 1: How did you get.
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Speaker 3: Them to do that? Really?
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Speaker 2: No, I love Bobby and I love her husband, Steven.
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Speaker 5: And the thing I like that you bring people together,
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Speaker 5: like you know that that dinner you had with all
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Speaker 5: these different people walk their life to math class and
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Speaker 5: just making.
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Speaker 3: Everybody like Salmon Rushty was at that dinner. I'm like,
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Speaker 3: I'm sitting there with like Charlemagne and Salmon Rushty, you know,
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Speaker 3: and Don Garber, the Major League Soccer czar.
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Speaker 5: Because it's amazing conversation. Everybody, you know, put their phones
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Speaker 5: down and just talk. And I just think that does
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Speaker 5: so much. And bringing people together, man, And I think
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Speaker 5: we need those kind of safe spaces in this world
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Speaker 5: that we're in right now.
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Speaker 6: That's what You're sit down conversations are like too. All
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Speaker 6: those people. I'm like, I've never would have even known
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Speaker 6: who these people were.
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Speaker 3: People are interesting, by the way. I love people's stories.
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Speaker 3: And Jones Road just launched something called Beauty Stories because
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Speaker 3: I want to share people's beauty stories. You know, think
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Speaker 3: about your grandma, your mom, your aunt. Where did you
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Speaker 3: learn and what things kind of stay with you?
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Speaker 6: I love that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Still, Bobby, A masterclass and leading and authentic life is
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Speaker 5: available everywhere you buy books right now.
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Speaker 1: That's right, so make sure you pick it up. And
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Speaker 1: we appreciate you for joining us absolutely and thank you
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Speaker 1: so much.
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Speaker 3: Oh my pleasure, thank you for having me.
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Speaker 1: Bobby Brown. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, hold every
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Speaker 1: day up.
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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club. You're finish for y'all done,