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- 0:01Speaker 1: Fremont County, Colorado. Amidst the hayfields. In this sleepy corner
- 0:06Speaker 1: of the Southern Rockies stand fourteen prisons. Corrections is now
- 0:11Speaker 1: one of the fastest growing industries in the United States.
- 0:15Speaker 1: Fear and loathing of violent crime led the American public
- 0:19Speaker 1: to demand get tough policies. Legislators did not let them down.
- 0:24Speaker 1: In fifteen years, the prison population has almost doubled to
- 0:28Speaker 1: more than a million. Sentences are getting longer. At least
- 0:32Speaker 1: three of the men in this film are destined to
- 0:35Speaker 1: die in prison. How to warehouse such criminals until that
- 0:40Speaker 1: point is a concern of the whole nation. An open
- 0:45Speaker 1: population maximum security prison is dangerous territory for prisoners and
- 0:50Speaker 1: guards alike. Prison gangs, sexual predators, drug pushes, and violence
- 0:57Speaker 1: create a nightmare for the weak and vulnerable inmates. Outnumbered
- 1:01Speaker 1: guard by more than seventy to one, the system is
- 1:10Speaker 1: under intense pressure. One solution is to remove the most
- 1:14Speaker 1: dangerous prisoners and tame them in high caste facilities, reforming
- 1:19Speaker 1: them until they're ready to re enter a less expensive
- 1:21Speaker 1: prison life. That's the theory behind the so called supermax
- 1:26Speaker 1: prisons like the new sixty six million dollar Federal ADX
- 1:30Speaker 1: at Florence, Colorado Supermax was born here Alcatraz Island on
- 1:38Speaker 1: San Francisco Bay. In nineteen thirty four, the island's military
- 1:43Speaker 1: jail was turned into an escape proof superprison to hold
- 1:46Speaker 1: America's most dangerous criminals. One of those criminals was Willy Radcay,
- 1:56Speaker 1: now eighty four years old. In nineteen forty two, Willie
- 1:59Speaker 1: topped the FBI's ten most wanted lists for bank robbery
- 2:02Speaker 1: and kidnapping in states across America.
- 2:10Speaker 2: I was a kid that never should have been born.
- 2:16Speaker 2: We had a priest at the Catholic school, Saint John
- 2:19Speaker 2: the Baptist in Kansas, Kansas, and he'd say, you steal
- 2:22Speaker 2: a penny out of a dead man's eye.
- 2:26Speaker 1: The cockshaw young hoodlum was to spend seven years on
- 2:29Speaker 1: the rock. His best friend would be George machine gun Kelly.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Alcatraz was kind of a scary word. No chance there
- 2:42Speaker 2: is going to be getting away because I was a
- 2:43Speaker 2: maximum prison at that time. The boat ride was rough
- 2:52Speaker 2: and everybody kept thinking what's going to happen next. I
- 3:03Speaker 2: was barefoot, pair of pants on and his shirt. No
- 3:05Speaker 2: one to close at all. We marched up at cold hill.
- 3:10Speaker 2: They were given out numbers. My number was six sixty six,
- 3:15Speaker 2: the sign of Satan. The warden was there. I finally
- 3:28Speaker 2: saw Salt Water Johnson after reading so much about him.
- 3:32Speaker 2: They said he was quite a man. I looked him
- 3:34Speaker 2: over good, but I noticed he gave each and everyone,
- 3:37Speaker 2: every one of us, a good up and down look.
- 3:40Speaker 2: I could see his mind saying, what's this guy think
- 3:43Speaker 2: he's going to do here.
- 3:46Speaker 1: With the onset of the liberal sixties, the reforming Attorney
- 3:49Speaker 1: General Robert Kennedy decided Alcatraz's damp dungeons were too harsh.
- 3:55Speaker 1: In nineteen sixty three, he closed the prison. For more
- 3:59Speaker 1: than a decade, America had no supermax, but during the seventies,
- 4:05Speaker 1: prison violence escalated. On one day in nineteen eighty three,
- 4:10Speaker 1: two guards were murdered at Marian Federal Penitentiary, Illinois. Marian
- 4:16Speaker 1: was locked down, inmates were permanently confined to their cells.
- 4:20Speaker 1: The new supermax era had begun. Westville Maximum Control Complex
- 4:29Speaker 1: one of two supermaxes in Indiana. Westville MCC has been
- 4:36Speaker 1: accused in court of abusing prisoners. As a result, its
- 4:39Speaker 1: operations are overseen by a federal judge. This is the
- 4:43Speaker 1: first time any media has been allowed inside here, a
- 4:52Speaker 1: man is allowed just one hour's solitary recreation a day
- 4:55Speaker 1: in a glass walled wreck room. For the other twenty
- 4:58Speaker 1: three hours he's locked up up alone in his cell.
- 5:02Speaker 1: This is the end of the line for prisoners deemed
- 5:04Speaker 1: unable to live by the rules. Critics call these prisons
- 5:09Speaker 1: control units. The guard's prisoner ratio is more than one
- 5:13Speaker 1: to one. The minimum sentence is two years. Most inmates
- 5:18Speaker 1: so longer jump ready for.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Rect Oh what's he gonna do?
- 5:31Speaker 4: You have finished year?
- 5:34Speaker 5: No one comes straight from the streets or from the
- 5:36Speaker 5: county jail to MCC to thirday time. They come directly
- 5:39Speaker 5: from another institution, rightly kind of thing had done to
- 5:48Speaker 5: get here? It would be assault continues, assaults on staff
- 5:52Speaker 5: members of our institution, assaults on other offenders, attempted escapes, escapes,
- 6:01Speaker 5: sexual contact with other offenders or other staff members, hardcore
- 6:08Speaker 5: gang members, heavy gang activities, and the other institutions things.
- 6:12Speaker 6: Of that nature.
- 6:25Speaker 1: Correctional officers feel safe working here. Some female officers say
- 6:29Speaker 1: they would not work in an open population prison. But
- 6:34Speaker 1: keeping men caged up can never be an easy way
- 6:37Speaker 1: to earn a living, and it's always controversial.
- 6:41Speaker 7: We don't abuse the offenders. They're human. Therefore we treat
- 6:45Speaker 7: 'em as human. We show them the type respect that
- 6:49Speaker 7: they show us. The public thing. Okay, you are a
- 6:58Speaker 7: prison guard. You were there to keep these people away
- 7:02Speaker 7: from me. Really their opinion knew we're not much better
- 7:06Speaker 7: than them.
- 7:12Speaker 1: When he was just seventeen years old, j Thompson was
- 7:16Speaker 1: sentenced to death for the murder of seventy two year
- 7:19Speaker 1: old William Hilborne and his sixty five year old wife Mary.
- 7:23Speaker 1: With an accomplice, Thompson went to the couple's house to
- 7:26Speaker 1: steal money to buy drugs. The Hillborns were stabbed thirty
- 7:30Speaker 1: to forty times, but remained alive while the two men
- 7:33Speaker 1: searched for money. The judge said there were indications that
- 7:36Speaker 1: the Hillborns may have been tortured before they were finally killed.
- 7:40Speaker 1: Thompson's death sentence was later set aside on technical grounds
- 7:44Speaker 1: and because of his age when the crime was committed.
- 7:48Speaker 1: He's now serving one hundred and twenty years. His Westville
- 7:52Speaker 1: sentence is for another stabbing, this time in prison an individual.
- 7:59Speaker 8: Basically, we tried to intimidate friend of mine and insulted him. Essentially,
- 8:06Speaker 8: and it escalated into a situation and in the end
- 8:15Speaker 8: man was dead.
- 8:16Speaker 1: The other prisoner was stabbed more than twenty one times
- 8:19Speaker 1: by Thompson and three others using a homemade weapon. J.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Thompson knows better than most the confrontational nature of prison life.
- 8:28Speaker 8: There's always predators in prison, those that will steal from
- 8:33Speaker 8: you or you know, try and rob you, sexual assaults
- 8:38Speaker 8: or just really the majority of its sexual intimidation.
- 8:42Speaker 3: You know.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Solitary confinement may neutralize disruptive prisoners, but it can also
- 8:48Speaker 1: lead to mental breakdown and even self mutilation.
- 8:53Speaker 8: The cells are enclosed, so there's no bars.
- 8:57Speaker 6: Actually the.
- 8:59Speaker 8: Course, the door is solid still with a small window
- 9:02Speaker 8: and l there's a light on in the cell for
- 9:07Speaker 8: twenty four hours a day, seven what bold. So you
- 9:10Speaker 8: have to either get used to sleeping with something around
- 9:13Speaker 8: your head over your eyes or just sleep with the
- 9:15Speaker 8: light on it.
- 9:18Speaker 1: The Eighth Amendment to the US Constitution prohibits cruel and
- 9:22Speaker 1: unusual punishment. Federal courts repeatedly question weather conditions in Supermac's
- 9:27Speaker 1: prisons are unconstitutional.
- 9:33Speaker 7: When they're locked up for twenty three, sometimes twenty four
- 9:36Speaker 7: hours of the day. To me, that's that's their punishment.
- 9:41Speaker 7: We're not here to reform them. They did something to
- 9:45Speaker 7: get sent here, and part of that punishment is sitting
- 9:50Speaker 7: thinking about what you've done, giving you that time to
- 9:53Speaker 7: get in touch with yourself and just think about it.
- 10:03Speaker 7: It's not cruel and unusual.
- 10:04Speaker 9: You know.
- 10:05Speaker 7: They do have contact with the staff members, so it's
- 10:09Speaker 7: not like they're locked away and forgotten about.
- 10:20Speaker 2: You.
- 10:20Speaker 10: Ready for outside rack.
- 10:28Speaker 8: They alternate when you come out, so you don't come
- 10:30Speaker 8: out at the same time every day. You can't set
- 10:32Speaker 8: your schedule by that. Essentially, the only activities are basketball.
- 10:44Speaker 6: Uh.
- 10:44Speaker 8: You know, you might bounce basketball around or shoot it
- 10:47Speaker 8: a little bit. They have these still bicycles that you
- 11:00Speaker 8: know are s really useless and uh tennis ball. So
- 11:16Speaker 8: if you're gonna really exercise, uh, it comes down to
- 11:19Speaker 8: calisthenics uh. In essence and UH or maybe running a
- 11:26Speaker 8: s small circle.
- 11:27Speaker 9: UH.
- 11:28Speaker 6: A lot.
- 11:44Speaker 1: In there are of freedom from the confines of their cell.
- 11:47Speaker 1: Inmates can choose between an indoor an outside rack. Today
- 11:51Speaker 1: Thompson was chosen a brief taste of fresh air and
- 11:54Speaker 1: a glimpse of sky through steel mesh in outside rag.
- 12:03Speaker 8: Really nothing changes and uh, and it's just a continuous routine,
- 12:08Speaker 8: come out for recreation for fifteen minutes or whatever, and uh,
- 12:13Speaker 8: get a ten minute shower. During that ten minute shower,
- 12:16Speaker 8: you have to within that period of time shave, uh,
- 12:20Speaker 8: you know, cleanse yourself.
- 12:22Speaker 6: And so forth.
- 12:23Speaker 8: And uh so uh, you'd have to learn to get
- 12:26Speaker 8: pretty quick about that stuff. And uh, but you do
- 12:31Speaker 8: have awful lot of time in that cell that you
- 12:34Speaker 8: have to occupy.
- 12:47Speaker 10: Did you take your belt off? Please?
- 12:50Speaker 1: Money, drugs, and weapons are the hard currency of prison life.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Even in a supermax, every officer is searched before starting work.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Frequent cell search use or shakedowns, help maintain security but
- 13:08Speaker 1: are deeply resented by inmates.
- 13:11Speaker 11: During a shakedown, we we hope to find any contraband
- 13:13Speaker 11: that the offender might have or prohibited property, and that
- 13:15Speaker 11: those items are defined. Contraband is an item that that
- 13:18Speaker 11: is restricted for the offender to have in his possession,
- 13:20Speaker 11: whether that's some type of a weapon or some type
- 13:22Speaker 11: of drug parafernealia or things of that nature. We hope
- 13:25Speaker 11: to find those items before the finder gets to use
- 13:26Speaker 11: either one of 'em.
- 13:28Speaker 12: Sometimes they'll keep items off of the trades, food items
- 13:32Speaker 12: to say, maybe to make foods or whatever. Keep medication
- 13:35Speaker 12: that should have been taken other offenders, magazines or property
- 13:39Speaker 12: that they shouldn't have. And I feel it's their way
- 13:41Speaker 12: of like taking back some of the control, you know,
- 13:43Speaker 12: cause virtually there is no control here as far as
- 13:46Speaker 12: they are concerned.
- 13:50Speaker 11: In the beginning, we had a few offenders that tried
- 13:51Speaker 11: to bring in, uh, some type of homemade weapons or whatever,
- 13:54Speaker 11: usually in in in a body cavity of some sort,
- 13:57Speaker 11: and we haven't had anything like that, and uh quite
- 13:59Speaker 11: a while. We've taken away all the freedoms that they
- 14:03Speaker 11: had while they incarcerated in an open population setting. We
- 14:05Speaker 11: have gone further and taken those freedoms away, the freedoms
- 14:08Speaker 11: that allowed those individuals to run with gangs and gave
- 14:11Speaker 11: them the opportunity for gang violence or inmate on intimate violence,
- 14:13Speaker 11: to run drugs inside the institution, to make weapons, to
- 14:16Speaker 11: assault staff.
- 14:18Speaker 1: The contrast between Westville MCC with around one hundred prisoners
- 14:22Speaker 1: and Indiana State Prison with sixteen hundred could not be
- 14:25Speaker 1: more extreme. Now. A sergeant at Westville, Todd Kamlitter, began
- 14:30Speaker 1: his career here in one of the oldest penitentiaries in
- 14:33Speaker 1: the United States.
- 14:35Speaker 11: In an old population setting. At the prison where I worked,
- 14:37Speaker 11: it was usually about eighty to ninety offenders to one
- 14:39Speaker 11: officer and at any given time, and it was often
- 14:42Speaker 11: felt that those offenders could take control of those housing
- 14:45Speaker 11: units whenever they wanted to, and which is a scary
- 14:48Speaker 11: thought for everybody. I was much more vulnerable working there
- 14:54Speaker 11: because of the contact that you have with offenders. They're
- 14:58Speaker 11: out of their restraints, and if one happen to have
- 14:59Speaker 11: a gudge, yes see then see. It was constantly looking
- 15:01Speaker 11: over my shoulder wondering what I was doing there or
- 15:03Speaker 11: w w what what possessed me to work in that
- 15:06Speaker 11: type of environment.
- 15:10Speaker 8: Prison's not safe. Guards are there to keep you there.
- 15:13Speaker 8: They're not there to protect you, per se. I mean,
- 15:17Speaker 8: if they see somebody pull a a knife out, you
- 15:20Speaker 8: can believe they're not gonna jump between you and that
- 15:22Speaker 8: fella with the knife. You know, usually you're gonna see
- 15:24Speaker 8: the bottom of their feet as they run away, which
- 15:27Speaker 8: is understandable.
- 15:28Speaker 13: Really, just about everybody.
- 15:32Speaker 8: Has weapons in prison, doesn't matter how many cell searches
- 15:35Speaker 8: prison searches they have. There's always weapons, and you have
- 15:39Speaker 8: to have a weapon because your next enemy's probably gonna
- 15:42Speaker 8: have a weapon. And if he's got a two foot
- 15:45Speaker 8: long knife, and and you're bare handed, you're gonna lose.
- 15:53Speaker 1: The state's prison's convict cats have been in these cell
- 15:56Speaker 1: houses for longer than any life. Uh at least one
- 15:59Speaker 1: prison that has been killed fighting over ownership of a feline.
- 16:04Speaker 1: The most of prisoner at Westville can hope for is
- 16:06Speaker 1: a few books, a Walkman radio, and after three months
- 16:09Speaker 1: good behavior, a TV set, which he must buy himself.
- 16:14Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety two, inmates took the prison to federal court,
- 16:17Speaker 1: claiming physical and mental abuse. As a result, Westville's operations
- 16:22Speaker 1: are now overseen by a judge, like prisons in thirty
- 16:25Speaker 1: nine other states, but no judge has yet ruled Supermac's
- 16:29Speaker 1: prisons illegal.
- 16:32Speaker 2: If I was locked up in match Sale twenty three
- 16:35Speaker 2: hours a day, I don't think I could make it.
- 16:39Speaker 2: I really don't know just what would happen. I think
- 16:41Speaker 2: I could last it pretty long, but it'd be a
- 16:44Speaker 2: hard time to do.
- 16:54Speaker 1: A training exercise in an empty pod. The prisoner is
- 16:58Speaker 1: an officer with instructions to play his roll to the full.
- 17:03Speaker 11: This extraction team has been assembled to extract Defender Lawson
- 17:06Speaker 11: from sell B three one zero four.
- 17:09Speaker 14: And first of all, I'm giving you the record order
- 17:10Speaker 14: to quit.
- 17:12Speaker 11: The reason for this action is the fender lost in
- 17:13Speaker 11: assaulted staff.
- 17:17Speaker 6: Is there anything gonna help you?
- 17:19Speaker 15: Order?
- 17:19Speaker 1: The Federal court order on Westville means cell extractions are
- 17:22Speaker 1: now rare.
- 17:25Speaker 6: What seems to be the problem.
- 17:26Speaker 8: In the past, it didn't take much to be extracted,
- 17:31Speaker 8: but nowadays there's a uh far more scrutiny on uh
- 17:37Speaker 8: that type of things. So uh you have to essentially
- 17:42Speaker 8: uh bring it on yourself really, Uh that is, they'll
- 17:46Speaker 8: give you a couple of warnings, you know, come cuff
- 17:49Speaker 8: up or whatever, and uh if you continue to refuse,
- 17:52Speaker 8: then they'll put the squad together.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Selex attractions are dangerous and feared by officers and inmates.
- 18:03Speaker 11: Team consists of Number one is Officer Fredericks. You'll be
- 18:05Speaker 11: in charge of the shield. Wheber two is Officer Gibson.
- 18:09Speaker 11: You'll be in charge of defender's right arm. Number three
- 18:12Speaker 11: is Officer Taylor. Have you be in charge of defender's
- 18:14Speaker 11: left arm. Number four Officer Shivers, be in charge of
- 18:17Speaker 11: the defender's right leg. Number five Officer Booker, you be
- 18:21Speaker 11: in charge the offender's left leg. Nurse Homer has been
- 18:24Speaker 11: placed on standby. She will remain in a secured area
- 18:27Speaker 11: until needed. Camera operator as the sergeant Brokeholder, please stay
- 18:30Speaker 11: the day and time as his person.
- 18:31Speaker 9: The camera time is two thirty three PMS June twelfth,
- 18:34Speaker 9: nineteen ninety five.
- 18:36Speaker 14: You proceed to bepon he heard I heard a song?
- 18:59Speaker 10: You heard me?
- 19:01Speaker 9: I did no, no, nobody, I didn't never nobody any up.
- 19:09Speaker 1: Simulating a real extraction. The whole process is videotaped in
- 19:13Speaker 1: case the prisoner sues.
- 19:15Speaker 14: I'll stand up. I'll stand up.
- 19:17Speaker 4: Does that stand up?
- 19:22Speaker 3: Hey?
- 19:23Speaker 6: Hey, heymen.
- 19:24Speaker 1: They try to take Russie down.
- 19:26Speaker 11: They try to take RUSSI woo woo wo sassap woo
- 19:31Speaker 11: whoo wo.
- 19:34Speaker 14: I did no, no nobody. I'm just trying to get
- 19:38Speaker 14: along with everybody.
- 19:40Speaker 1: Ninety five percent of all prisoners will one day be
- 19:43Speaker 1: free to return to society. How does prison prepare them
- 19:47Speaker 1: to be good neighbors? This question is central to the
- 19:51Speaker 1: philosophy here at oak Park Heights in Minnesota, more than
- 19:56Speaker 1: half the prisoners here have killed someone. Almost all have
- 19:59Speaker 1: committed crime against the person. This is an earth sheltered
- 20:05Speaker 1: maximum security prison, literally built in a hole in the ground.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Many prison insiders consider Oak Park Heights the most secure
- 20:14Speaker 1: prison in America.
- 20:18Speaker 16: Since we opened in nineteen eighty two, we have not
- 20:20Speaker 16: had an escape or serious escape attempt. We have had
- 20:25Speaker 16: several serious assaults, but have yet to experience our first homicide.
- 20:30Speaker 16: We have to recognize that inmates are human beings just
- 20:32Speaker 16: like ourselves, and that they have committed some atrocious felonies.
- 20:36Speaker 16: So we think it's a very important philosophical initiative we've
- 20:40Speaker 16: taken to allow inmates as much freedom and as many
- 20:43Speaker 16: choices as is possible given that it's a maximum security environment.
- 20:50Speaker 13: With the exception of this place here. I've escaped from
- 20:53Speaker 13: every prison I've ever been in my life, and every
- 20:56Speaker 13: time I've ever tried to escape, I got away. Unfortunately,
- 21:00Speaker 13: every time I got away, I got caught.
- 21:02Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy six, Robert Bobby Lewis was a marijuana
- 21:06Speaker 1: dealer in Florida. Louis shot a man dead, claiming the
- 21:09Speaker 1: gangster had threatened to kill him and members of his
- 21:12Speaker 1: family unless he was cut in on the drug money.
- 21:15Speaker 1: Sentenced to the electric chair, he escaped from Florida's death row,
- 21:19Speaker 1: the only man to do so, recaptured. His death sentence
- 21:23Speaker 1: was later commuted, and Louis was transferred to oak Park Heights.
- 21:27Speaker 13: Within the first twenty four hours that I went to
- 21:30Speaker 13: the prison system, I stabbed two people and beat one
- 21:33Speaker 13: with a pipe. Two people tried to rape me. Another
- 21:36Speaker 13: person tried to take my shoes and my watch from me.
- 21:40Speaker 13: I went to war with them.
- 21:42Speaker 1: Oak Park Heights has created an environment in which life
- 21:45Speaker 1: is much less violent than the prisons He's known.
- 21:47Speaker 6: Before, you had hours.
- 21:55Speaker 13: He was lucky if you had a whole day in
- 21:58Speaker 13: order to decide whether you could what you was gonna
- 22:03Speaker 13: be inside prison, whether you was gonna be somebody's boy,
- 22:06Speaker 13: whether it was gonna be used, abused, traded, whether you'd
- 22:09Speaker 13: ever have any money to spend yourself, whether any possession
- 22:13Speaker 13: you'd ever own would be yours, or whether you was
- 22:15Speaker 13: gonna get you a knife, a club, a stick and
- 22:17Speaker 13: start hurting people. Today, there's almost nothing I can't use
- 22:25Speaker 13: after twenty something years of prison as a weapon. I
- 22:28Speaker 13: can use any kind of chemical compounds to make any
- 22:31Speaker 13: kind of poison, gases or bums. I know what kind
- 22:34Speaker 13: of plants grow on a prison yard, what their effects are.
- 22:38Speaker 13: I can take a newspaper and run it through you
- 22:42Speaker 13: and make a blowgun, a spear, a hatch, and a hammer.
- 22:45Speaker 13: Everything is a weapon. Everything in pre prison you have
- 22:49Speaker 13: to look at is how can I use this or
- 22:52Speaker 13: how can it be used against me.
- 23:01Speaker 16: We don't have a problem with the excessive number of
- 23:03Speaker 16: shanks or homemade weapons being carried by inmates here. Every
- 23:07Speaker 16: time inmates enter or leave an area, they are pat
- 23:10Speaker 16: searched and metal detected. We have very rigid tool accountability
- 23:14Speaker 16: for our industry programs, and if a tool is missing,
- 23:17Speaker 16: we immediately go into a lockdown status where inmates will
- 23:19Speaker 16: be locked down in their rooms for three to four
- 23:22Speaker 16: days while their rooms are completely searched and the living
- 23:25Speaker 16: in the work area is searched.
- 23:28Speaker 1: Efficient security systems and highly trained staff who are encouraged
- 23:32Speaker 1: to treat inmates with respect keep violence towards officers at
- 23:35Speaker 1: a fairly low level. But the architecture exists for the
- 23:40Speaker 1: prison to be locked down and turned into a supermax
- 23:42Speaker 1: overnight if necessary. The decision to lodge one of America's
- 23:50Speaker 1: most violent federal prisoners here is proof of oak Park
- 23:53Speaker 1: Heights security. Ron Crowder has killed twice in thirty years.
- 23:58Speaker 1: He has innumerable conveytions for violence in prison, or, as
- 24:02Speaker 1: he describes it, catching a case.
- 24:06Speaker 15: I started doing time in nineteen fifty seven for breaking
- 24:10Speaker 15: into a school still in a movie projector. But I
- 24:16Speaker 15: really didn't start doing hard time til around nineteen sixty six.
- 24:24Speaker 15: First institution that they sent me to was uh Petersburg Reformatory.
- 24:29Speaker 15: I made parole when I stayed out about uh three months,
- 24:34Speaker 15: and I caught another robbery in manslaughter. It gave me
- 24:41Speaker 15: uh fifteen years, and they sent me back to Louisbourg.
- 24:47Speaker 6: I caught a case in lewis Burg.
- 24:50Speaker 3: Uh.
- 24:50Speaker 15: They gave me a salt, locked me up in a hole,
- 24:55Speaker 15: and uh they said that I was a management problem,
- 24:58Speaker 15: so they sent me to Atlanta Federal PENITENTI I caught
- 25:02Speaker 15: another case down there, so they send me to Marin.
- 25:05Speaker 15: Marini is the last stop all the bad albus is
- 25:08Speaker 15: that you know what I'm saying. I hit a gown
- 25:11Speaker 15: of yard and they uh they sent me to the
- 25:13Speaker 15: control unit. They gave me thirty six months and then
- 25:19Speaker 15: I was out in population about uh about three or
- 25:24Speaker 15: four months, and I caught another case. They gave me
- 25:27Speaker 15: eight years on that. You know.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Crowder is a leader of one of the most violent
- 25:33Speaker 1: prison gangs in the federal system, the DC Blacks.
- 25:37Speaker 15: The Fairs gave us that title the DC Blacks because
- 25:41Speaker 15: we was a bunch of black people from out of
- 25:44Speaker 15: DC that we stuck together. They try to turn it into,
- 25:50Speaker 15: uh a gang, but it's it's not a gang, you know.
- 25:53Speaker 15: It's just a bunch of people that came up together
- 25:56Speaker 15: out of the neighborhoods.
- 25:58Speaker 6: We hung together. We looked out for one another, and
- 26:01Speaker 6: we didn't go for anything. You know.
- 26:03Speaker 15: Uh, if you do something to one, you gotta do
- 26:06Speaker 15: too all. If you would do something to one of
- 26:12Speaker 15: us that's in Lewisburg, well wherever you go, you gonna
- 26:17Speaker 15: get taken care of because you violated. You did something
- 26:21Speaker 15: to one of us, and and and then and and
- 26:24Speaker 15: under any means necessary, we.
- 26:26Speaker 6: Would get you.
- 26:28Speaker 1: After the prison slaying of a DC Black in nineteen
- 26:30Speaker 1: eighty three, Crowder did exactly that.
- 26:34Speaker 15: Cadillac was a a homeboy from the same town where
- 26:37Speaker 15: I'm from. We came up together, and uh, he had
- 26:40Speaker 15: a lot of respect. He was killed by the A b. S.
- 26:44Speaker 15: Which is white supremacist crew. He was he w he
- 26:48Speaker 15: was hit, He was hit sixty four times with knives.
- 26:52Speaker 15: You know, chilling is one thing, but man, when you
- 26:54Speaker 15: grab a man and drag him down a tier.
- 26:57Speaker 6: So all his people can see that.
- 27:00Speaker 15: You know it was disrespect then, you know it was
- 27:04Speaker 15: disrespect that was my friend. You know, that was my friend.
- 27:11Speaker 15: So I had to do something, you know, I had
- 27:15Speaker 15: to do something. I just couldn't ignore that, you know,
- 27:19Speaker 15: I couldn't. And I did what I had to do.
- 27:24Speaker 15: It caused me my freedom, you know, and I would
- 27:28Speaker 15: be in it til I die.
- 27:32Speaker 6: And if I had to do it over again, I would,
- 27:34Speaker 6: you know.
- 27:40Speaker 1: Ron Crowder is strip searched in preparation for a visit.
- 27:45Speaker 1: A lifetime spent in prison has left him alone in
- 27:47Speaker 1: the world. At Oak Park Heights, he began corresponding with
- 27:56Speaker 1: a local woman, ronk No considers married his coma little wife.
- 28:02Speaker 6: Yeah. I got a a wife and sem daughters.
- 28:05Speaker 15: That uh I got a lot of respect for you know,
- 28:08Speaker 15: and it comes up here to see me regular and
- 28:11Speaker 15: like I said, I have a lot of love for
- 28:12Speaker 15: them kids.
- 28:13Speaker 6: You know. So I'm doing pretty much outright. You know, any.
- 28:18Speaker 10: Dentures, Ah, okay, alright, hand straight up? How long were
- 28:25Speaker 10: you be staying?
- 28:26Speaker 17: Uh?
- 28:28Speaker 10: Okay, lift your sack separate.
- 28:32Speaker 6: Okay, what you go through the metal detector?
- 28:33Speaker 3: Please light?
- 28:38Speaker 6: You have to take your shoes out.
- 28:43Speaker 10: Turn around, lift one foot at a time, wiggle with toes,
- 28:47Speaker 10: bend and spread.
- 28:49Speaker 17: Alright, and thank you.
- 29:17Speaker 15: Wedlfematically the love to you about talking so much.
- 29:30Speaker 1: Not every inmate appreciates the life at Oak Park Heights.
- 29:34Speaker 18: I was the first person in the Minnesota state to
- 29:36Speaker 18: get the new guidelines, which is a thirty year mandatory
- 29:39Speaker 18: sentence with the possibility of prol at the end of it.
- 29:43Speaker 6: Or that.
- 29:45Speaker 1: The half naked body of a young trainee chef was
- 29:48Speaker 1: found dumped on a country road. His throat had been cut,
- 29:51Speaker 1: his stomach and back had deep gashes. Of six people arrested,
- 29:55Speaker 1: Dan Naylor was the only one found guilty of first
- 29:57Speaker 1: degree murder.
- 29:59Speaker 18: Next thing I know, I'm in trial, and next thing
- 30:02Speaker 18: I know, the motive went from he stole some earrings
- 30:05Speaker 18: to he was molested children, to he was a cop
- 30:07Speaker 18: because it was a satanic ritchel jure I heard that
- 30:12Speaker 18: satanic stuff. I was fried.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Six years later, Nayla still insists that although he was present,
- 30:20Speaker 1: he did not wield the knife.
- 30:25Speaker 18: I ain't the same person I was when I was
- 30:27Speaker 18: out there. I ain't the same asshole that I was
- 30:29Speaker 18: when I was out there. I don't take I don't
- 30:34Speaker 18: take the sound of a bird chirping or a dog
- 30:36Speaker 18: barking off in the distances for granted anymore, I just can't.
- 30:42Speaker 18: I have nothing anymore, so I can't take any little
- 30:45Speaker 18: bit for granted.
- 30:47Speaker 6: I've got a card that was.
- 30:48Speaker 18: Sent to me in jail from my ex fiance at Stacy,
- 30:50Speaker 18: but I'll never get rid of it cause I can
- 30:54Speaker 18: still smell her on that car. A lot of people
- 31:00Speaker 18: in society will just say, uh, poor person. No, not
- 31:04Speaker 18: poor person. I don't want society's pity. I want society
- 31:07Speaker 18: to wake up and see what's going on and quit
- 31:10Speaker 18: believing just disinformation they keep getting. We don't have it
- 31:14Speaker 18: as a resort here. Sure that the building may be
- 31:22Speaker 18: new and the cells may be cleaner. Well, we ain't
- 31:27Speaker 18: got that easy. There's nothing easy about prisons.
- 31:35Speaker 6: I know for a fact.
- 31:36Speaker 18: If I would be released a day back into society
- 31:39Speaker 18: and they told me I had to live on the
- 31:40Speaker 18: streets and be a bum, I say, when do we leave.
- 31:49Speaker 16: At Oak Park Heights. We have two extremes. You've got
- 31:52Speaker 16: a choice. You can live in general population, accept a job,
- 31:56Speaker 16: and you're gonna basically have a lot of freedom within
- 31:58Speaker 16: a small space between seven in the morning and ten
- 32:01Speaker 16: pm at night. The other choice, if you don't obey
- 32:05Speaker 16: the rules is we have a very rigid, punitive segregation unit.
- 32:11Speaker 9: Here.
- 32:11Speaker 16: Inmates are only allowed out of the room one hour
- 32:13Speaker 16: per day and offered very few amenities, very few clothing items,
- 32:19Speaker 16: very very little reading material, things like that. One key
- 32:27Speaker 16: element to our success has been that we keep the
- 32:30Speaker 16: difference between general population and segregation extreme. And if you're
- 32:34Speaker 16: an inmate, it's looking at many, many years his personal
- 32:38Speaker 16: life being spent, and you've made that decision to try
- 32:41Speaker 16: to accomplish some constructive goals. The choice is obvious.
- 33:06Speaker 15: Old park House. I mean it's so kicked back. It's
- 33:12Speaker 15: nothing going on here. I mean, it's nothing that you
- 33:14Speaker 15: can get into. I never been in the penitentiary like
- 33:18Speaker 15: this before. It's strange for me. I mean, you can
- 33:21Speaker 15: go to school, you can lock and unlock your own
- 33:24Speaker 15: door when you want to. You around what fifty two
- 33:29Speaker 15: people every day, so it's just like a close knit family,
- 33:36Speaker 15: you know what I'm saying. You can lay your head
- 33:39Speaker 15: down here and go to sleep. You know, you ain't
- 33:42Speaker 15: gotta worry about getting whacked. This is a nice place
- 33:47Speaker 15: where you can retire. I mean, you know, just get
- 33:50Speaker 15: away from everything. It's right here.
- 33:55Speaker 3: Wrong.
- 33:55Speaker 1: Crowder knows that one day he may have to return
- 33:58Speaker 1: to the federal system baron itself.
- 34:01Speaker 8: You know.
- 34:02Speaker 15: It's just like being in the bell of the beast,
- 34:05Speaker 15: you know, because that's a pit.
- 34:06Speaker 6: It's the snake pit, you know, And if you're scrown,
- 34:09Speaker 6: you're gonna survive. But if you're weak, you're gonna tear
- 34:12Speaker 6: you down.
- 34:13Speaker 15: I didn't seen a lot of good dudes break down
- 34:16Speaker 15: under that type of pressure, you know, paranoid, schipsophrenic thinking people, that's.
- 34:23Speaker 6: It's poising them.
- 34:25Speaker 15: Thinking, people's plotting against them. If they told me I
- 34:30Speaker 15: had to go back to Maryon tomorrow, I mean, married
- 34:33Speaker 15: is the whey I got to go back.
- 34:34Speaker 6: I'm ready to go. I just had to put that
- 34:37Speaker 6: face back on and I'm gone, you know what I'm saying.
- 34:43Speaker 15: But unfortunate for me, I won't be going back to Maryon,
- 34:46Speaker 15: you know.
- 34:47Speaker 6: I will be going to Colorado.
- 34:49Speaker 3: You know.
- 34:50Speaker 15: You know, they didn't have enough of me and Marion,
- 34:53Speaker 15: you know. So my next stop is Colorado Supermax.
- 35:03Speaker 1: It's known as the Alcatraz of the Rockies. The new
- 35:06Speaker 1: sixty six million dollar federal supermacs at Florence Colorado, the
- 35:11Speaker 1: most feared prison in the United States. One of the
- 35:17Speaker 1: first men to be moved here from Marianne was Oscar
- 35:19Speaker 1: Lopez Rivera.
- 35:21Speaker 9: I have far.
- 35:22Speaker 14: Spent fourteen years in prison.
- 35:26Speaker 9: I was convicted of our seditious conspiracy to overthrow the
- 35:30Speaker 9: government of the United States in Puerto Rico by the
- 35:32Speaker 9: use of force.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Rivera was convicted of playing a leading part in the
- 35:37Speaker 1: bombing of government on Wall Street targets during a seventies
- 35:41Speaker 1: terror campaign against the US presence in Puerto Rico. To
- 35:45Speaker 1: many poor Puerto Ricans, and especially his niece Lodes, he's
- 35:49Speaker 1: a symbol of liberation.
- 35:54Speaker 4: Oscars in prison basically for the struggle to free Puerto Rico,
- 35:58Speaker 4: and he was the most wanted manned by the FBI
- 36:01Speaker 4: from nineteen seventy six to eighty one. The judge with
- 36:07Speaker 4: Oscar said, I wish I had the tools to justify
- 36:10Speaker 4: a death penalty on you, but I will give you
- 36:12Speaker 4: fifty five years full term survey.
- 36:15Speaker 1: A later conviction for attempting to escape added twenty years
- 36:18Speaker 1: the Rivaria's sentence.
- 36:20Speaker 4: Oscar won't be released until the year two thousand forty six.
- 36:25Speaker 4: Uh he's not eligible.
- 36:27Speaker 10: For parole.
- 36:39Speaker 19: Administrative Maximum Facility eighty X has been opened approximately seven months.
- 36:45Speaker 19: We received inmates in November and we have two hundred
- 36:49Speaker 19: and forty seven inmates presently in the institution.
- 36:56Speaker 9: Prisident is very inhuman is very human icing. But when
- 37:01Speaker 9: you are in a control environment, then you begin to
- 37:05Speaker 9: experience the barbarity of prison. To sear to burn your spirit,
- 37:13Speaker 9: to take away your humanity. Here everything is cemented steel.
- 37:22Speaker 9: You can a smell the earth, you can see a
- 37:25Speaker 9: blade of grass, you cannot.
- 37:26Speaker 14: See a tree.
- 37:27Speaker 9: How can you correct an individual by placing that individual
- 37:31Speaker 9: in a cell for twenty two twenty three hours.
- 37:33Speaker 1: A day despite his crimes. Rivera speaks about control unit prisons.
- 37:39Speaker 1: With all the inside of a human being condemned to
- 37:41Speaker 1: live in one.
- 37:47Speaker 9: You can no longer be creative because you are constantly
- 37:50Speaker 9: in one single spot in a seven by nine feet cell.
- 37:58Speaker 9: Your total You become totally dependent on the jailer, on
- 38:02Speaker 9: the staff. You cannot even say, well, I'm going to
- 38:06Speaker 9: go and reach for food is given to you.
- 38:11Speaker 14: In the same environment you do everything.
- 38:13Speaker 9: You defecate because you got your toilet there. You're taking
- 38:16Speaker 9: food in the same place, so there begins to also
- 38:21Speaker 9: rob you of your humanity and strip you of your humanity.
- 38:31Speaker 19: The security procedures and designs here are specifically for the
- 38:39Speaker 19: maximum security inmates. Everything that an inmate would need is
- 38:45Speaker 19: enclosed within that inmate cell, showers, toilet facilities, things of
- 38:49Speaker 19: that nature.
- 38:53Speaker 1: To prevent weapon manufacturing. Sell furniture is made of poor
- 38:57Speaker 1: concrete when there's an angle to prevent prisoners seeing the
- 39:01Speaker 1: mountains outside. The cell is escape proof, but at a price.
- 39:12Speaker 4: When I saw Oscar, and he had already been two
- 39:15Speaker 4: weeks in this lockdown, in this hermetically sealed doors with
- 39:21Speaker 4: no ventilation, no sunlight, and there was someone who had
- 39:26Speaker 4: been medically diagnosed as insane and Miriam and this man
- 39:32Speaker 4: with two steel doors hermetically sealed Oscar. Could hear him
- 39:38Speaker 4: hitting the wall, He could hear him screaming. He could
- 39:42Speaker 4: hear him yelling for help in this cell.
- 39:47Speaker 1: A civilized society may ask itself whether control unit prisons
- 39:52Speaker 1: like Florence and Westville are just tombs for the living dead.
- 39:57Speaker 9: I was strip searching the cell, our strip search in
- 40:02Speaker 9: the visiting room by the same people who had strip
- 40:05Speaker 9: searched me, who had been holding me and watching me
- 40:08Speaker 9: all the way down to the visiting room. Once the
- 40:12Speaker 9: visit was over, our strip search again in the visiting room,
- 40:15Speaker 9: and our strip search again in the cell.
- 40:19Speaker 4: And we were going to be seeing each other in
- 40:22Speaker 4: a two and a half inch fiberglass sealed wall between
- 40:29Speaker 4: us on a phone. Why would a human being strip
- 40:35Speaker 4: another human being and poke because they poked oscar to
- 40:40Speaker 4: see if he were what the hell was he going
- 40:43Speaker 4: to carry from his cell to the visiting room.
- 40:47Speaker 1: A spokesman said, ADX policy is the strip search a
- 40:51Speaker 1: prisoner once on leaving a housing unit and once on
- 40:53Speaker 1: his return.
- 40:56Speaker 19: Contraband materials can be passed between inmates and and visitors,
- 41:03Speaker 19: and this is to ensure that uh that does not
- 41:06Speaker 19: take place.
- 41:09Speaker 9: The first time I saw my granddaughter, she was probably
- 41:13Speaker 9: five months old. Nothing would have been greater than to
- 41:16Speaker 9: be able to touch her, to grab her out. My
- 41:19Speaker 9: my daughter would put her on the window so I
- 41:21Speaker 9: could uh and she would st uh almost try to reach.
- 41:24Speaker 14: At that early age, when she.
- 41:33Speaker 9: Touched the glass, the whole her whole uh Uh, all
- 41:36Speaker 9: the features in her face change, uh because she was
- 41:39Speaker 9: expecting to talk to talk to me and touch me,
- 41:42Speaker 9: and and so the glass prevented that.
- 41:44Speaker 14: Yeah, it was uh uh to look at her face.
- 41:47Speaker 9: It was a very horrifying experience of one that that
- 41:50Speaker 9: was extremely sad, one that was extremely uh.
- 41:53Speaker 14: You know when when you almost break down in tears
- 41:55Speaker 14: and you choke.
- 41:59Speaker 4: To I went from my visit with Oscar, with his
- 42:02Speaker 4: granddaughter who he had not seen in two and a
- 42:05Speaker 4: half years, and that urgency of helplessness God lost. When
- 42:12Speaker 4: Garina said I can I can feel you. There was
- 42:19Speaker 4: no glass anymore, even what the government thought they can
- 42:26Speaker 4: break us by that glass. And seeing that four year
- 42:31Speaker 4: old girl play and she played for the forty five
- 42:35Speaker 4: minutes we had to visit. She played and they played,
- 42:40Speaker 4: and there was no pain in that glass. There was joy.
- 42:48Speaker 4: So we broke the glass.
- 43:04Speaker 18: When you take a person and put him in a
- 43:06Speaker 18: setting where you dehumanize him to I don't want that
- 43:12Speaker 18: person as my neighbor when he gets out. And I'm
- 43:14Speaker 18: a convict sitting in this place. The only thing that
- 43:17Speaker 18: stops me from being dehumanized is myself.
- 43:22Speaker 13: If these prisoners here was to go down and go
- 43:24Speaker 13: through the reception center in the state of Florida. When
- 43:28Speaker 13: they brought 'em back and let 'em off the bus,
- 43:30Speaker 13: they looked like hostages coming back to the United States.
- 43:33Speaker 13: They would run up and hug the prison. It'd be
- 43:35Speaker 13: so happy to be back here.
- 43:38Speaker 8: This place doesn't change people. I mean initially, I think
- 43:40Speaker 8: it was meant to be a a type of psychological reconditioning,
- 43:45Speaker 8: make place so terrible that you would never wanna come back. Essentially,
- 43:50Speaker 8: this place is just a warehousing facility. In my opinion,
- 43:57Speaker 8: ten years are gonna look back and say, we have
- 43:59Speaker 8: two million people in prison and nothing's changed.
- 44:04Speaker 15: This education thing is one of the best things that
- 44:06Speaker 15: they got here, because you know, like you got a
- 44:08Speaker 15: lot of people here that's slow in certain fields, they
- 44:12Speaker 15: can better the self. Heel, that's what I'm doing. I'm
- 44:15Speaker 15: bettering myself and I'm damned. Are fifty years old. But
- 44:19Speaker 15: you're never too old and learned, you know, never too
- 44:22Speaker 15: old to learn.
- 44:25Speaker 2: People says, presents reform you. In my estimation they really doing.
- 44:29Speaker 2: What happens is you grow old, you're out of steam.
- 44:34Speaker 2: You can't whip nobody, much less than the police. So
- 44:37Speaker 2: the best thing is Coolidge. People laughing at me, says, boy,
- 44:42Speaker 2: maybe they sure changed. You know.
- 44:44Speaker 6: I grew up, got old.
- 44:46Speaker 2: I was fifty nine years of age when I got
- 44:48Speaker 2: out eleven work, after spending thirty five years locked up
- 44:52Speaker 2: more than half of my life. And I just took
- 44:54Speaker 2: it easy. When I got out and I got to working,
- 44:57Speaker 2: and things got better and better, and I says, don't
- 45:00Speaker 2: take no chances. Now you got more to lose your gain.
- 45:04Speaker 2: Years before I had nothing to lose and everything the gain.
- 45:09Speaker 2: I was just gambling with life.
- 45:17Speaker 1: The Russian writer Fyodor Dostoevsky, author of Crime and Punishment,
- 45:21Speaker 1: said the degree of civilization in a society can be
- 45:25Speaker 1: judged by entering its prisons. Today, the United States locks
- 45:30Speaker 1: up more of its citizens than any other nation except Russia.
- 45:36Speaker 1: If prison really works as a cure for crime, this
- 45:39Speaker 1: should be the safest country on earth.