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Supernatural Signs and the End Times | Josh Peck · The Week in Bible Prophecy

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  Speaker 1: The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome everyone to the podcast this week. I am here
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  Speaker 2: with Josh Peck, Mono Gonzalez of course, and welcome Josh.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, good to be back.
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  Speaker 2: We are here to discuss your brand new book, The
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  Speaker 2: Final Cataclysm Supernatural Signs of the End Times, and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to get into all the details of this, which
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  Speaker 2: again I think is pretty fascinating. But before we do
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  Speaker 2: want to remind everybody about a couple things that are
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  Speaker 2: happening this year. Of course, you know, we are very
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  Speaker 2: very busy. All of us are busy doing things all
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  Speaker 2: around and I am traveling and speaking at different conferences
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  Speaker 2: as well, and a couple things that are on the
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  Speaker 2: agenda for us is to put on your calendar is
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  Speaker 2: October ninth through twelfth, we have our Prophecy Conference in Norman, Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to have a thousand people or so, Lord
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  Speaker 2: Willing coming and hearing the twenty plus speaker which will
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  Speaker 2: be there. Josh, of course you'll be there. It's easy
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  Speaker 2: and it's gonna be a good time. And we also
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  Speaker 2: will take we're going to be taking a trip as well.
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  Speaker 2: If you have ever wanted to go basically a missionary
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  Speaker 2: journey of Paul trip. We're going to be seeing Athens,
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  Speaker 2: and we're gonna go to Mars Hill where Paul spoke
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  Speaker 2: to the Athenian the philosophers and Act seventeen. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: also go and see where Paul wept to the elders
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  Speaker 2: of Ephesus in my leaders, and we're gonna go to
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  Speaker 2: troll Az, and then of course we're gonna have a
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  Speaker 2: seven Churches of Revelation tour, which will be helpful to see.
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  Speaker 2: It's so amazing being there. I had the first time
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  Speaker 2: ever in my life to be there last fall and
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  Speaker 2: to walk in the different places and to see how
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  Speaker 2: the words of Jesus just truly come alive when you're
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  Speaker 2: on location there. It's it's a pretty amazing and fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: And then even when I was at one of the
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  Speaker 2: spots in Leah Toicea, we know Lay to sea doesn't
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  Speaker 2: get have a very good reputation in that relation Chapter three,
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  Speaker 2: and it's fascinating that as I was looking around there
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  Speaker 2: at the archaeology, there was an inscription that was found
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  Speaker 2: there that discussed They discussed all these things, but they
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  Speaker 2: left out the letter to Lao to see it because
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  Speaker 2: it was very it was very condemning of them. And
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  Speaker 2: so anyways, if you're interested in joining us there again,
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  Speaker 2: we're going to be heading down on a quick jount
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  Speaker 2: to Giza to see the Pyramids, as well as going
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  Speaker 2: to eastern Turkey to see one of the possible candidates
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  Speaker 2: for Noah's ark. So you can get all that information
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  Speaker 2: at propsewatchers dot com. Go to the events tab and
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  Speaker 2: just scroll down and you can see the different things
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  Speaker 2: that we will be doing. And again, our goal is
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  Speaker 2: to minister to people worldwide as well as to teach
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  Speaker 2: at these locations if possible. So but we are here
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  Speaker 2: to talk about again your book here as it relates to
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  Speaker 2: the final catitalism, So you know, the supernatural signs of
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  Speaker 2: the end times right there out of the gate, right
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  Speaker 2: right that they're at the top. I find this pretty fascinating, Josh,
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  Speaker 2: because we see that maybe help us make a connection
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  Speaker 2: with what Jesus said in Luke seventeen in Matthew twenty
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  Speaker 2: four that the days of the Son of Man his returned,
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  Speaker 2: not just the that when he returns, but the days
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  Speaker 2: leading up are going to be similar to the days
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  Speaker 2: leading up to Noah and the days leading up to
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  Speaker 2: what we understand Lot as well kind of talk about
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  Speaker 2: that connection, which I think sets the tone for the
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  Speaker 2: whole book.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what the entire two volume set is about,
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  Speaker 1: because it's showing how in all of these different areas
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  Speaker 1: of our modern life, these are reflections of the days
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  Speaker 1: of Noah and the days of Lot. And when I
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  Speaker 1: think about the Days of Lot, I mainly think about
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  Speaker 1: the angels that they were trying to have relationship and
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  Speaker 1: the immorality and everything else, of course, and and that
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  Speaker 1: runs constant with the days of Noah as well. But
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  Speaker 1: also these stranger areas, like the days of Noah are
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  Speaker 1: marked by corruption. A lot of people think of the flood,
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  Speaker 1: and of course, yeah, it's the flood, but what's the
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  Speaker 1: cause of the flood? Like, what was the reason for it?
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  Speaker 1: And it was all of creation except Noah and his
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  Speaker 1: family were all corrupted. Well, science is now doing things
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  Speaker 1: today that's corrupting the creation as well. We've talked about before,
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  Speaker 1: but a lot of people are familiar that there's been
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  Speaker 1: recent news about the de extinction of the dire wolf,
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  Speaker 1: which isn't really a dire wolf. It's worse it's a
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  Speaker 1: hybrid of a few different things that, from what I understand,
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  Speaker 1: can't reproduce naturally. So these are blurring those lines where
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  Speaker 1: God said in Genesis, you know, each after its own kind.
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  Speaker 1: These are blurring those lines and going against God's creation.
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  Speaker 1: So not only that, but even outside of that, they've
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  Speaker 1: created wooly mice, They've putten they've put wooly mammoth genetics
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  Speaker 1: into mice, and they've actually these are living creatures that
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  Speaker 1: have never existed on Earth before as far as we
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  Speaker 1: can tell. Maybe in the days of Noah they did,
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  Speaker 1: but even then that would have been a creation of
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  Speaker 1: the Nephilim or the fallen angels. But scientists are doing
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  Speaker 1: this today, and it's obviously all demonically inspired, but it's
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  Speaker 1: it's always it's always promoted as like the best thing ever.
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  Speaker 1: Like you, when you see pictures of the dire Wolves,
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  Speaker 1: for example, they're like cute little puppies, and the world
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  Speaker 1: is like except for people like me and you and
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  Speaker 1: like in our fringe Christian community or whatever we want
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  Speaker 1: to call it, except for us, most of the world,
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  Speaker 1: they're ecstatic about it. They're they're they're so excited, and
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  Speaker 1: they're adorable. And it's it's like this stuff is purely demonic.
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  Speaker 1: Another part of it, too, that I talk about heavily
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  Speaker 1: in the book is the use of technology, So the
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  Speaker 1: use of AI. I believe in the in the Old Testament,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff was done through dark occult magic.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they had a need for technology in
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  Speaker 1: the way that we have it. And the reason I
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  Speaker 1: say that is well, in the Old Testament, dark cult
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  Speaker 1: magic is all over the place in there, and even
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  Speaker 1: so much so that the pharaoh servants or whatever his
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  Speaker 1: magicians were able to replicate many, not all, but many
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  Speaker 1: of the miracles that God was doing. And of course
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  Speaker 1: God obviously won that God's way more powerful, but they
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  Speaker 1: weren't using technology to do that.
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  Speaker 2: And don't go too fast in the sense of like
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  Speaker 2: they threw down there their wooden rod, and it became
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  Speaker 2: and it became a snake.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it became a living creature. And there's nothing in
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  Speaker 1: the text that suggest that this was sleight of hand
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  Speaker 1: or that they like hid the stick away and put
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  Speaker 1: a snake down. It literally became that. And people wonder, well,
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  Speaker 1: if that was happening back then, why don't we see
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  Speaker 1: that now, Like why why can't, you know, because there's
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  Speaker 1: occultists and stuff, but you know, there's a lot of claims,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't really see them doing anything really special.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like, what's so different now? And I believe
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  Speaker 1: it's fully because we're in the Age of Grace and
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  Speaker 1: we have the restrainer, which I believe is the Holy
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  Speaker 1: Spirit dwelling in Christians. We have ancient accounts, ancient church
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  Speaker 1: fathers that talk about instances where Christians would go into
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  Speaker 1: a town and just there, just the presence of a
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  Speaker 1: holy spirit filled Christian would make it to where the
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  Speaker 1: oracle of that town couldn't talk anymore, couldn't the demon
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  Speaker 1: that was talking through the oracle couldn't talk anymore. There's
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  Speaker 1: a really famous account in Lac Tantus I believe about Apollo,
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  Speaker 1: and it's actually funny to read through because you got
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  Speaker 1: these Christians that are talking to this oracle and Apollo's
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  Speaker 1: talking through the oracle, and they're they're asking it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what is your name? Basically what are you? And it's
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  Speaker 1: trying to say it's trying to lie and say that
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's this great God and everything, but it
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  Speaker 1: keeps slipping up and calling itself a demon like it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Like Balem, you know he can't right, Yeah, he's exactly
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  Speaker 2: just up blessing, how'd that come out of my mouth?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly the same thing. And it's so funny because he
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  Speaker 1: does this two or three times and it gets to
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  Speaker 1: the point where he just doesn't talk anymore. And that was,
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  Speaker 1: as far as we know, the last anybody's heard of
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  Speaker 1: the apollow And so I think it's that restraining force
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  Speaker 1: that that that's really restraining the the the powers of darkness,
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  Speaker 1: where their power is is a lot more limited now.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, if if you're Satan, if you're the enemy,
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  Speaker 1: and you know you can't do the magic stuff anymore,
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to do? Well, maybe you're going
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  Speaker 1: to inspire humanity at a specific time to start developing
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  Speaker 1: all of this technology that we're developing now. And this
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  Speaker 1: is why I believe that we're right on the doorstep
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  Speaker 1: of the end times, because everything that we're developing now,
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  Speaker 1: there's really no reason that couldn't have been done five
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  Speaker 1: hundred years ago, a thousand years ago. We have the
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  Speaker 1: same brains we had back that base. If anything, theirs
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  Speaker 1: were probably better because it wasn't as degraded as we
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  Speaker 1: are now. They had access to the same materials. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: if anything, they had more time to figure this stuff
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  Speaker 1: out because they weren't distracted with the Internet and iPhones
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  Speaker 1: and stuff that we have. We got a lot of
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  Speaker 1: distraction going on. So why didn't it happen? And I
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  Speaker 1: think it just it wasn't the time. It just wasn't
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  Speaker 1: the time yet. That restrainer didn't loosen up enough yet.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it is now, which is good news
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  Speaker 1: for us as believers, because that means once the restrainer
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  Speaker 1: is finally removed, we go along. We go along with him,
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  Speaker 1: and that's the rapture in my belief. But I think
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  Speaker 1: we're seeing that restraining force loosen now, so we're seeing
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  Speaker 1: the signs of the end times, and many of them
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  Speaker 1: are supernatural, even though it's pitched to us as technological
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  Speaker 1: like AI and everything. But I believe the actual source
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  Speaker 1: for all that, the inspiration for that is supernatural. It's demonic.
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  Speaker 1: So that's kind of just a brief overview and a
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  Speaker 1: couple of examples of some of the things that I
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  Speaker 1: go through in the book, But every chapter deals with
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  Speaker 1: one topic. Some topics are so big I have to
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  Speaker 1: do two or three chapters like cern, but every chapter
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  Speaker 1: or group of chapters deals with one one topic that's
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  Speaker 1: happening right now today and showing how this is a
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  Speaker 1: sign that we're in the days of Noah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's to me, it's pretty fascinating when you think
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  Speaker 2: about again what the Bible says, is Jesus himself, you're
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  Speaker 2: going to have a pattern between the days of Noah
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  Speaker 2: and the days of the Son of Man. And you
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  Speaker 2: start looking at again, even in Genesis six, what do
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  Speaker 2: we have. We have increased immorality from the time that
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  Speaker 2: it's everywhere, right, it's just the Bible says boom, from
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  Speaker 2: the time their youth every thought and that's pretty bad. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and now and what we're seeing as well, as we
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  Speaker 2: see supernatural interference through the sons of God coming down,
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  Speaker 2: we see genetic manipulation coming down. We see, of course
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  Speaker 2: there's other traditions and Jewish traditions about them manipulating animals
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  Speaker 2: and other things like that. So Jesus is saying, look,
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  Speaker 2: take a look. And of course for me, it's always
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  Speaker 2: about context. Jesus is speaking to first century Jewish people
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  Speaker 2: who understood clearly these background these Jewish traditions that were happening,
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  Speaker 2: and again I thought, all Jewish tradition is correct. But
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  Speaker 2: there was still a milieu, right there was there was
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  Speaker 2: a there's a there's a situation, there's there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: a not only a geographical but a religious and a
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  Speaker 2: cultural context of all those areas. This is why when
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  Speaker 2: you read in Second Peter two or even Jude when
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  Speaker 2: they're describing the the situation with the angels coming down
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  Speaker 2: with women and they're talking about chains of darkness, gloom, blackness,
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  Speaker 2: you know, till the judgement of the Great Day. I
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  Speaker 2: remember originally when I read that long time ago, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, where's Peter getting his information from? I mean how,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe the Holy Spirit's telling him that's possible.
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  Speaker 2: But then if you go over truly to the Book
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  Speaker 2: of Enoch. And I did this for one of my
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  Speaker 2: classes at church one time. Was I took all the
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  Speaker 2: language and then I asked the class where did show
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  Speaker 2: me in the Old Testament where Peter got this language
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  Speaker 2: about the angels And they were like, well, we don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And then I pulled over here all the same language
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  Speaker 2: because I could search it all out of the book
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  Speaker 2: at Enoch and I said, do you guys see this
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  Speaker 2: It was identical. I mean it quotes from there. And
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  Speaker 2: I said, now again, doesn't mean the Book of Enoch
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  Speaker 2: is one hundred percent inspired by any means or any
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  Speaker 2: percent inspired. But what it does show us is that
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  Speaker 2: was the Peter's backdrop of what he's doing. And so
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  Speaker 2: you know, when we think about as well, you have
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  Speaker 2: this in four parts, which I think is fun to
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  Speaker 2: talk about. You have signs and technolog g quantum sciences
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  Speaker 2: and transhumanism. You talk about part two, signs in the
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  Speaker 2: supernatural UFOs and extra dimensional entities. You have signs in
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  Speaker 2: the occult, demonic doctrines and practices again highlighting. And then
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  Speaker 2: you have signs in eternity the future for believers and
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  Speaker 2: what that all looks like as we go. But so
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  Speaker 2: let's kind of jump in here because there's there's of course,
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  Speaker 2: we can't get to all of it, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe of all of what you've written here in your mind,
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  Speaker 2: maybe maybe you got two minutes on a bus you're
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  Speaker 2: on a bus or on a plane or what your
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  Speaker 2: you get an uber or whatever. And the guy said
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  Speaker 2: and you said, oh, he says, oh yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I see you got a new book out, Final Cataclysm.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we got two minutes. What's the best connection
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  Speaker 2: of evidence that you have of these supernatural signs of
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  Speaker 2: the end times? Give me, give me your best in
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  Speaker 2: two minutes. What would you say?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if it was somebody like that, I would probably start.
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably start real slow and first, like just present
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  Speaker 1: some of the basics of Genesis six to just get
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  Speaker 1: a foothold in this stuff. Really, it would depend on
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  Speaker 1: what the person's interest was were, And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to deal with a bunch of different areas. What
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  Speaker 1: it seems like to me most people are interested in
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  Speaker 1: is the UFO stuff, and the stuff was CERN. That's
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  Speaker 1: what people really seem to have a big interest in.
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  Speaker 1: So I would probably everybody, maybe not as many people
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  Speaker 1: are aware of CERN. So I would probably start with
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  Speaker 1: UFO stuff, and I would say, hey, if you heard
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  Speaker 1: about UFOs, what do you think about that?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: And I would see if they have if they've ever
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  Speaker 1: heard of how countless people recount these these the same
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  Speaker 1: their same experiences that they seem to be doing some
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  Speaker 1: kind of hybridization program. They take DNA from humans and
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  Speaker 1: mix it with their own alien DNA. You know, quote
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  Speaker 1: unquote and uh. And then I would I would point
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  Speaker 1: back to Genesis six and I would say, well, in
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  Speaker 1: Genesis six it says that these were angels that were
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  Speaker 1: doing this, fallen angels. Yeah, and they might say, well
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  Speaker 1: they were mistaken. It was really aliens and they thought
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  Speaker 1: it was fallen angels. It's like, okay, well let's explore that.
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  Speaker 1: And that's why I have a chapter on extra dimensional UFOs.
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  Speaker 1: If these are things from another planet, there are things
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  Speaker 1: that the beings themselves and the crafts should not be
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  Speaker 1: able to do, Like they're just impossible. The way that
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  Speaker 1: let's say some of the craft and these are coming
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  Speaker 1: for these accounts, and this is why I believe a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them, these are coming from normal lay people
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  Speaker 1: that have no background in quantum physics, no background and
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  Speaker 1: even what an extra dimension is, let alone how it
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  Speaker 1: would behave if it was introduced into our own So
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  Speaker 1: they have no background in it, yet they're explaining things
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  Speaker 1: because I have researched it, I know that's exactly how
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  Speaker 1: an object that's extra dimensional would behave.
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  Speaker 2: They're talking in language that they don't know really what
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  Speaker 2: you're talking about, and you have the scientific background to
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  Speaker 2: go they don't even realize what they're saying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly. And the fact that you can have
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  Speaker 1: a solid object seemingly split apart, come back together, grow
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  Speaker 1: in size, shrink, disappear. All of that stuff is perfectly
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  Speaker 1: possible without technology, even if it's an object of an
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  Speaker 1: extra dimension. We as humans can't really because we're three dimensional,
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  Speaker 1: you know, in space. We can't imagine what a higher
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  Speaker 1: dimension would be like. But we can imagine. This is
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  Speaker 1: why I appreciate the work of doctor Chuck Missler so much.
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  Speaker 1: We can imagine a lower dimension. We can imagine a
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  Speaker 1: two dimensional universe that has no up or down. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if I interacted with that universe, what would that look
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  Speaker 1: like to them? I could put let's call it flat land.
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  Speaker 1: That's the classic example from the like the eighteen hundreds.
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  Speaker 1: I could put two fingers in flatland, and anybody any
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  Speaker 1: flat land or in that universe would see two separate circles,
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  Speaker 1: and I could move them around independently. They would have
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  Speaker 1: no idea that it was attached to one being. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing. And if I kept
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  Speaker 1: doing that and put my whole hand in there, it
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  Speaker 1: would look like those two circles converged into one big
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  Speaker 1: one as my wrist was going in, and then as
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  Speaker 1: I pulled it out, it would seem like these circles
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  Speaker 1: separated and then disappeared. It's exactly, you just bump it
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  Speaker 1: up one dimension. So these three dimensional, seemingly three dimensional
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  Speaker 1: objects that people are seeing are doing the exact same things.
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  Speaker 1: They're splitting off, they're coming back together. And it makes
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  Speaker 1: perfect sense if there's actually more to this thing than
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  Speaker 1: we can see, because it's hidden in a dimension that
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  Speaker 1: we can't perceive, but part of it is breaching into ours.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fascinating, and I don't think I don't
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  Speaker 1: think a bunch of people can just make that up.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting too that that kind of thing is in
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  Speaker 1: the Bible, in the Book of Ezekiel, when he sees, now,
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  Speaker 1: these are the good guys, but when he sees the
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  Speaker 1: in the very first chapter, this amazing image of the
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Throne of God, and these angels are carrying it. But
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: when you really dig into the language, it says things
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: like their legs are like you could say, fused into
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: like one hoof, it's really weird. Or their wings are
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: like fused together. But when you see them, when you
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: see these same beings again in Revelation, they're all separate.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: The difference is because I believe they're extra dimensional. I
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: believe angels are totally extra dimensional, whether they're fallen or
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: not fallen, and when they interact with our three dimensional world,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: it's going to look like. There's actually a term in
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: quantum physics called extra dimensional unfolding, and it just means
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: that if you're of a higher dimension in a lower dimension,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: it would appear as if you're taking up like like
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: different parts are taking up the same space. So where
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: you have like the legs of these angels coming down
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: to one hoof, that's not really what's happening, but it
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: definitely looks like that. And Ezekiel is just reporting what
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he's seeing. This was twenty six hundred years ago. He's
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: not an Ezekiel's not a quantum message. And then the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: wings melding together and all of that, and the way
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: that they behave makes perfect sense, makes perfect sense with
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: what we now know about, and it's even been mathematically
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: shown how extra dimensional entities or objects would interact in
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: our world. So that's a lot, you know, but I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: would probably point to something like that because it's something
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: relatable and say, aliens can't do that. If it was aliens,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: if it was Martians or whatever, they would have roughly
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: the same biological case abilities we have. We can't do that.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: There was a recently a declassified CIA document, and I
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: don't know for sure if this account really happened, but
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it's interesting because it said that I think, like thirty
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: years ago or something, over Siberia, there were like some
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: it was like over a military base. They shot down
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: a UFO and the story goes that these these five
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: what seemed to be like what we would call the grays,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: these five beings came out, but then they all merged
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: together into a ball of light and sent off this
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: big flash and then turned the soldiers to stone, like
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: all but two of them. And I guess because the
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: two were behind trees or something, but I don't Again,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that story is actually true or not.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: But it's like, if you were going to make up
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: an alien story, why would you go that route with them?
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: Because biological things, whether they're aliens or not, Like, no
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: matter what kind of technology they have, they shouldn't be
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: able to do that. That sounds like something extra dimensional
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: entities would be able to do. And again it behaves
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: just the same way. These these five seemingly separate things
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: can merge into one thing and then set off this
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: blast that turned them to stone. That kind of reminded
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: me of the whole Pillar of Salt thing. Yes, for sure,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: speaking of Days of Lot. So again, you know, I
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: don't know for sure if that account is true, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: just the fact that stories like that are out there,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and I don't see any way that like who would
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: use that story to try to say, yeah, aliens exist,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: martians exist, and they can somehow do this. To me,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that's like, no extra dimensional entities exist, fallen angels, just
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: regular angels. You know, Demons possibly not possibly that they exist,
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: They definitely exist. I just don't know if demons are
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: extra dimensional or not. But at least some of these
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: things are, and that's how they behave people are reporting
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: on it not knowing what they're looking at. They don't
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: have a background in quantum physics. So to me, that's
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: like that that's really strong evidence. So that's a lot
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: longer than two minutes.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought I was experiencing time dilation as we
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: were talking. With that, we'll go with that well, you know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: but brings us back to again the fact of the matter.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Jesus gave a template for understanding. And we also see,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Jesus in the All of It Discourse, he
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: is quoting Daniel chapter twelve. There's no doubt when he
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: talked about the second half of the tribulation after the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: abomination of desolation. You know, he says, when you see
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: it set up, Matthew twenty four to fifteen, flee into
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the wilderness, and then this is going to be a
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: time of tribulation that has never existed in the history
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: of humanity. Well that's a direct quote from Daniel twelve.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So he's definitely leaning in on that chapter in his
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: own language. But also we know in that chapter that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: Daniel's asking for clarification for many things. And the response was,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you know, Daniel, no, seal up the book, because seal
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: it up until the time of the end. And at
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: the time of the end, you would see knowledge increase,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: and you would see many would travel to and fro.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: So you see these at least a couple descriptors there.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: And and so now that we are we we believe,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: which I would say that we it's a fact based
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: on that passage that we are at the time the end.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Knowledge has certainly increased exponentially, exponentially, and it's continuing and
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: travel is I mean, we're living that, you're always in
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: some other count I'm trying to try to get the
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: word out. And so so you have right here, you
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: know again section one talking about the signs of technology
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and quantum sciences and transhumanism. So one of the things
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that you bring up here, and I think this is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: kind of I would say it's mysterious for some we
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: don't need to go to all the detail, but I do.
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: Would would love to get I'd love to have the
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: person listening because we keep hearing about it, and from
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: from a Christian perspective, explain what a quantum computer is. Sure,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: explain the quant you have here Chapter three quantum consciousness.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: What why is this a game changer? Yeah? For knowledge
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: technology and artificial intelligence crunching data as we know. That's why.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Why is that part of we think the end of
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: the age.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, the artificial intelligence thing, and then and then
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I'll deal with the quantum computing because I think these
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: two are going to merge. The artificial intelligence thing is
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: extra scary because specialists are saying that within five six
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: years it's going to have more intelligence than the culmination
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: of every human on earth, meaning it's going to be
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: able to solve problems we can't solve. It's going to
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: be able to shed light into mysteries that we have
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: no idea, no way of calculating or figuring out, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it can do it basically in an instant. That's where
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it gets moved into quantum computing because right now, classical
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: computers when they when they do a calculation or when
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: they try to solve a problem, typically they have to
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: do it like one at a time, like they have
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to like they have to, Yeah, it's sequential. Quantum computers
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: can do all of the options all at once and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: then find the right one. So an example that I
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: use in my in my house, when you first go
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: into my house, on the right side, there's three light switches,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and one of them does the one of them turns
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: on and off the porch light, one of them does
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: the living room light, and one of them doesn't do anything.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: And for the life of me, I just can never
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: remember which one is which. A classical computer, to solve
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: that problem would turn each one on and off, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: one after another to figure it out, and then it
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: would be done. What I do is more what a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: quantum computer does, and I just turn them all on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and then just turn them all off. The only difference
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: is when I do that, I don't I still don't
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: know which switch does what thing. You know, I'm just
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: turning on all the lights because I'm just don't want
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: to figure it out and I.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Don't want to waste any time.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The quantum computer would be able to tell immediately, and
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it could do it with more than just three It
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: can do it with billions. The scary thing is all
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of our our biggest encryptions things where like we we
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: like government secrets, or like bank financial information baking. All
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: of this, a lot of it is built on these
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: really hard, difficult math problems involving prime numbers. These just
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: incredibly large prime numbers something in their equations that are
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: so complex it would take a classical computer billions of
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: years to figure out. Because again it's got to go
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: through one out of time, it wouldn't be able to
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: do it. But a quantum computer can do it within
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: seconds or at most minutes. The scary thing about that
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: is that's what all of our encryption, the important stuff
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: is based on. So once quantum computing hits the mainstream,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: like once it becomes consumer friendly, which it is now,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: they've actually figured out how to One of the biggest
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: problems in the past with quantum computers is how to
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: make it stable, because it deals with really really tiny
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: particles that are really really fragile, and any little thing
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: can mess it all up. Well, different companies have now
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: come up with different ways to combat this problem. There's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: five or six different ways right now that they're doing it,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and they all work. So it's not going to be
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: long before this is going to be mass produced for consumers.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: But before it gets there, it really depends on whose
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: hands this is going to fall into. And it already
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: exists now. So experts are talking about, worried about and
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: warning about what's called Q day. That's the day where
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: quantum computing gets into the hand of say, really anybody
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: could be a hostile government or hackers or anybody where
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: they can use quantum computing to gain access within seconds
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: to all the governments of the world, all their secrets,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: banking information. They could steal money from anybody with this stuff,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: and they're trying to develop protections for this, called quantum
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: computing resistant techniques. But the problem is that's going slower
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: than the approach of q day and it's because everybody's
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: on the Internet all the time and it's all encrypted
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: in the way that it's encrypted now now. So to
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: change all of that, you have to do that while
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: people are still on the Internet. You can't just shut
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: down the Internet for the whole world while you figure
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: this out. And uh, I use this analogy. It's kind
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: of like if you found out, like in New York City. Uh,
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: if you found out that there was a group of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: people that had developed a skeleton key to every every
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: building and that this one key would work to any
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: building in the city. So the solution is, well, we
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: have to change the locks to every single door. But
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you're doing that while people are going in and out
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: of doors and doing all these builds. It's like impossible.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: That's that's I think that's a really good analogy for
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: how how difficult it would be to implement these these
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: quantum protections. So most likely, and I theorize in the book,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you know, most likely somebody's going to get their hands
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: on this first before protection could be put in place,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: and then then we live that that's QDA and we
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: live in a totally different world. I don't know what
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: that looks like for people like you and me. I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: mean I would probably want to pull all my money
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: out of the bank and yeah, a lot of people
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, get cash or silver or something. I don't know,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but something. But but by and large, worldwide, whoever can
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: control this, whoever's the first to control this, can basically
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: control the world. And that makes me think, you know,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: how is it the anti crisis is able to get
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: so much power so fast. Maybe it's something like this,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: or maybe it's already been put in place. So I
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: don't think we're going to have to wait till the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: tribulation to see q day. I think that that's gonna yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, depending the rapture could happen now and tribulation
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: could happen tomorrow, So it depends on how it all
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: works out. But that's one of the major kind of
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: frightening things that's happening right now today, and most people
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: aren't aware of it because it's not really it's not
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: really being publicized, it's not really out there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, there's no doubt that. I mean,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: we we look at this stuff and we read about it,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: and we're intentional, but I imagine, you know, for you know,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I know back when I was pastoring, and you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I had other responsibilities, right, you know, as you do.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: And I've always loved prophecy, but I wasn't necessarily reading
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: about quantum anything full time or writing about it or whatever.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: So you start so the typical Christian is like, well, okay, yeah,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on that. It seems kind of weird.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: But our point here is simply to say, what we're
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: seeing is another indicator, yes, that that we are approaching
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: the last days of the Last Days, which is again
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: is what you're documenting here in these books. And and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: you go into as well in the second part. And
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: again that was just you know, a small, small few
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: pages of part one. But in part two you begin
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: to talk about the signs in the supernatural, which again
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: reminds me of what Jesus said that there's there's supernatural
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: interference in the days of Noah with the sons of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: God and the fallen angels. And we see through the
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: book Revelation, we see demons being unleashed, We see other
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: angels being interacting with humanity, bringing the seven trumpets, the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: seven bowls. I mean, Jesus is the one that opens
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: the seals. But you see the four living creatures involved,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: you know them saying come. So there's no doubt this
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: this window that has often been a very hard separator
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: from our normal life. I mean, Hebrews searching too. We
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: entertain angel but unaware, right, so so unaware, So that
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: that window that that that that dividing line between realms,
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: if you want to say, that has been pretty stark.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: But that's going to change. And so I think what
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: we're seeing though is I do think that most of
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: what that description is is going to happen inside the tribulation.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: But we are seeing the birth, the birth pains. That's
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: a good way to say it. As it relates to
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: this the b system being established and implemented in the
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: technology coming to play. So and you talk about again
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the supernatural elements you you bring up and this is
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: kind of fun. You talk about shape shifting, nefilem angelic genetics,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: doppelgangers by location, plasmoid orbs Israel in the UFOs maybe
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: talk for a moment plasmoid or what in the world
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: that people don't know what those are. Explained to the
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: audience what those are.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is well, people have been seeing these things,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: but it's been it's a relatively new Is this.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Something I see on my camera when I see like
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: that a dot on there? An orb? Is that what
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: you're referring to?
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Or well sometimes sometimes people will like look at a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: star and they'll zoom in on their camera and it
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: looks all funky and they think that's what stars really
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: look like, or they'll they'll think that that's an angel
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: or something that's that's just that's just it's a phone camera.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I know different because I you know, we have telescopes
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to show that.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so, so I'm not I'm not talking about that,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: but it is. It is weird though, because some of
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: the people, some of the things that people are filming,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: it's not like as far away as a star, it's
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a lot closer, but it still does look weird. And
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the reason that the term plasmoid orbs actually came from
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: a scientific paper that was studying these things. And so
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: in the book, I go into a little bit of
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: the paper and the paper's really complicated, is a lot
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: of a lot of scientific papers are, but I try
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: to break it down as best as possible, but they
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: don't really reach any kind of conclusion. It's just basically like, Yeah,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: something's happening. And people really started seeing these things around
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: when the New Jersey drone stuff started happening. I don't
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: know what the connection there is. I don't I don't
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: think these these orbs are necessarily the drones themselves, because
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and again, you know, I have to caveat it with
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: saying any video can be faked, any picture can be faked,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: any interpretation can be wrong. One of the more convincing
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: ones that I saw, though, which led me to write
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: this chapter, actually are very own. Bob Olrick sent me,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: emailed it to me, and it was a TikTok video
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: of this, and probably a lot of people have seen
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: it by now, but there's this TikTok video of this
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: woman at broad daylight and she's see something in the
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: sky and she zooms in on her phone and it
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: kind of looks like just this sort of ORB with
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: these spindly things coming out of it, and she's talking
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: to it and she's like, Hi, I see you, you know,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: who are you? And then but then she says, do
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: you know Jesus, And then the thing starts like vibrating
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: and kind of seem it looked like it responded to me. Yeah, yeah,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: look and then she's.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, you do know Jesus. Yes, we love Jesus.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: And you know, I can't say for one thing, Yes,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: that video absolutely could have been faked. To me, it
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: didn't seem like it was, but I'm not I don't
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: have a background in that. I can't tell just by
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: looking at it. It seemed real. Could be faked. But even
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: if it's not, I don't know if it's responding because
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: it doesn't like them the name of Jesus, or if
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: it's like an actual angel and it's just getting excited
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: about it. And because they're extra dimensional, we can't see
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the whole thing and we're just seeing a piece of it.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but that video got so popular
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: and other people started coming forward saying that they were
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: seeing stuff too, So there's this phenomenon of people seeing
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: these plasmoid orbs. I did a video on it because
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I wanted to know if there was something to it,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and usually it helps if I get my audience's feedback.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So I said Hey, have any.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: Of you seen this?
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: And you know, you be honest, and it's okay if
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: you don't have evidence of it or whatever, but just like,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: have any of you seen this? And overwhelmingly I got
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of people that said that they have seen
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: similar things recently. It's like a recent phenomenon, and so
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I thought it was interesting enough to put in the
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: book and write about it, and especially with the background
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of that scientific paper, it at least caught the attention
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: of some scientific researcher writing about it. But to me,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: the way that I the main takeaway that I get
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: from that, from the whole phenomenon and what I write
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: in the chapter is I really like the La Marzouli approach.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Rebuke first, ask questions later. So I advise people, if
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: you do see something like that, a good angel will
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: never be offended if you try to rebuke it in
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: the name of Jesus, it just won't have to respond
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to it. You know, it's not going to be offended.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: It'll actually probably expect you to do that. But if
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: it's a fallen angel, you want you you absolutely want
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: to rebuke that first, or if it's something demonic. That's
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: why you always rebuke first, ask questions later.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: No, that that's that's really good, And it's just again
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: it's another it's another determining uh piece of evidence where
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: when you look from you know, basically as we know
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: there are people in nineteen forty seven with Roswell all
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: the way. I mean, there's you know, several thousand uh
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: of documented sightings of of something strange in the sky UFOs.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Now you know, some of them are venus, you know,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: some of them are that we know, but there's others
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: that are truly unexplainable, which is why, I mean, let's
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: just say it, which is why our Congress is having
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: you know, meetings about these these unexplainable you know, unidentified
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: flying objects you know, coming in our country around military
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: bases and other things enough that they're they're want the
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Congress is now wanting answers. There's so much evidence from
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: whistleblowers and other So again, it's just another sign that
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: we're in strange we're in strange times.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm totally unprecedented, And I mean I remember I
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: grew up on the X Files and stuff, and in
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: that show, it's like the government's so powerful and they'll
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: never let these secrets go, and then anybody in the
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: real world that like pushed for government disclosure were laughed
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: at and not taken seriously. And it's just amazing that
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: after that that tic tac Ufo thing that that most
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: people have heard about by now, that that news broke
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: in late twenty seventeen, early twenty eight James. Yeah, yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: and once that broke all of a sudden that I
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: think that was the first drop of disclosure. We've been
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: having a slow drip of disclosure. There hasn't been a
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: time where they just come out and said, Okay, we've
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: got you know, we've got this. It's really it's seemingly
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: slow going. But it's a lot faster now than it
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: was like when I was a kid, where the government
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even Congress wouldn't even talk about it, news agencies
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even cover it unless they were making fun of somebody.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: And now it's being handled as an actual serious topic.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, to me, it's time is getting short.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: Better get right with Jesus.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's really I mean, what I see
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: what you've written here is to do that. And then
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: part three you describe the signs in the occult and
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: demonic doctrines and practices. And again the question that I
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: always think about is again looking at the pattern of
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the days of Noah, in that we know from Second
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: Peter that Noah was a preacher of righteousness. Yeah, and
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: so he's out there preaching basically, got one hundred and
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: twenty years to build the arc or so, and I
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: imagine he's building it with his sons and who else.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, only eight people
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: get on the arc.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, besides his own family. He didn't manage to.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: But it was still good that he did that. And
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: that's why, like and I take that as great encouragement.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: You know, even when we feel like we're not being
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: listened to, Noah still was a preacher of righteousness. He
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: still preached it knowing it's almost like a lost cause,
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: but there's still a reason for it, and we're we're in.
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: That's other big part of the days of Noah that
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: we we can never forget. We have to be out
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: there preaching the good news, preaching the gospel. Even if
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: people don't listen, we still have to do it, and
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we should do it. People will listen, Like we are
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: in a time where it's not so bad yet that
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: just nobody will listen, right, that is coming. I think
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: like once, once we're out of here, uh, that'll be
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: more the case. But but but still, we're in a
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: unique time where we can see these things happening now
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: and the connection with the doctrines of demons. I talk
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: about a lot of New Age stuff in there, because
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of Christians don't even realize they have New
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Age beliefs because it's crept into the church and even
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of these a lot of these beliefs come
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: from these supposed aliens that are piloting these UFOs. They'll
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: tell people like, we're going to bring you to a
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: higher level of consciousness. They preach new Age stuff ye
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: all the time, and so people buy into this. People
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that are really into Ancient Aliens, you know, they're they're
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: almost always into New Age. If you if you've ever
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: seen one pro one episode of Ancient Aliens, it's steep
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: steeped to New Age. Oh yeah and so but yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: but the New Age aspect of it has been so
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: ignored most Christians, without knowing it, have at least one
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: New Age belief and don't realize it's new Age. One
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of the biggest ones is how many Christians out there
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: are doing yoga. And I'll tell you I did not
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: expect this, But I get more blowback from that than
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: about anything else. People really want to hold on to
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: their yoga and they want to say it's not non Christian,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: it's not demonic. Yes, it absolutely is that those specific
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: poses were taught by fallen angels posing as gods in
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: India a long long time ago to venerate these things.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: There have been people that had been damaged psychologically and
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: even physically damaged from doing yoga. And the thing is,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: if it's just for health, do calisenics do some stretches,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Go to your chiroproactor and as ask for some stretches
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: you can do. If it's purely for health, why does
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: it have to be yoga? But I get so much
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: pushback on it, And I think it's because these doctrines
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: are addictive. Whether they realize it or not, they're addictive.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I I years and years ago, before I got into
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: ministry and everything, I was a New Age for the
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: same reason. It's spiritually addictive and uh, that's really dangerous.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: So I would I would suggest that's one thing of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: a few others that I talked about in the book,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: But I would suggest if you're doing yoga, get out
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: of yoga class. Get get out of that and just
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: do Or if you're at a church that's teaching yoga classes,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: don't deal with it. Just do calisthenics or do pilates
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: or there's a million other things you can do to
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: be healthy.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean, that's always the challenge that I've
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: had is like you say calisthenics because I think, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: if I'm going to stretch in a certain way, does
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: if Satan labels it is, does he own it now right?
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, wait a minute, I should still
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: be able to stretch. And that's a lot, yeah, you know,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: in the sense of like you say Calisen X or
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: something that because I know that I don't even know
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the name says that I don't really do yoga, but
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: I do know that there's certain strets. If I put
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: my hands out and I put my you know, from
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: my own back, it's really nice and it'd be like, oh,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: you're doing yoga, and I go, no, I don't never
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: done yoga. Is that what you call yoga? And like, well,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: that's a stretch, and I'm like, okay, well, I'm doing
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: it because it helps my back out. I'm not a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: chance if.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: It's a stretch touch you get from your doctor or whatever.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: But those specific yoga stretches were actually they were taught
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to mankind from the fallen angels saying, you know, do this,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: this is how you venerate us. And that that's in
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: modern day yoga too. So it's like, you know, and
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: I don't blame if if somebody, you know, if Christian
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: gets into yoga and they just don't know. I think
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: most of them don't know, and then when they find out,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, well I don't want to deal with it.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Then that's I think that's all perfectly fine. But but
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: when when when I get so much pushback from it, Yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that's that's like, that is a weird thing to like
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: really want to hold on.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why you hold on to that? You can still
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: stretch exactly because you know, and God knows the heart
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: in that and so you so you the fourth section
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: here again we're just overviewing some of this and very
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: fascinating topics. You talk about the future for Bes, the
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Dead Sea Scrolls, rapture, future bodies of believers, and then
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: you talk about signs in love. So I mean, you know,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: as we as we think, as we're it's one thing
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: to look at. Hey, everybody, this is only the beginning.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: Like you mentioned birthpangs of getting into what Jesus described
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: as the end of the age, the days of the
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Son of Man, which we know it's only going to
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: get ten times a thousand times worse, right, But in
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: the midst of all this, we we have hope and
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: we have confidence. And you spend a chapter talking about
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: the future bodies of believers kind of explain that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well it's just it's I wanted to end
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: the book by saying, like, you know, look, we have
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: a future. We don't have to fear this stuff. We
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: should be aware of it, for sure. That's the whole
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: point of everything that came before the last couple of chapters.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: We need to be aware of it, but we don't
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: have to fear it. We have all of these signs.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: If you're a believer, point to something good for us.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be raptured. We're gonna be you know translated,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: we're gonna be chained. This this this corruptible flesh is
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: gonna put on the incorruptible. And so I spent that
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: chapter kind of dealing with like, well, like what does
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that exactly look like? Because when I was growing up,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: I kind of thought, I and I don't want a
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: dog on my church that I grew up on too
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: much because they are the ones that introduced me to Jesus.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: So you know, I'm saved because they and but it
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: was really surface level stuff. So I kind of thought, Okay,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: when we get raptured, and it was a pre rapture
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: church and everything, but we're basically going to sort of
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: be like clones of Jesus and I in a sense,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I was almost worried that we were gonna lose our personality,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: like like like our personality, like everything about us is
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: going to be changed where we're basically like not even
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: ourselves anymore. And and that's not the case. Like God
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: created you as an individual, me as an individual, will
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: just be our perfected selves, you know, will we won't.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: We won't be sinning anymore. There's times throughout the day
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: where I'm spending time with my family and I'm not
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: sinning in that moment. I think it's just gonna be
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: like like that, but just always in way obviously way better.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: We can't comprehend how amazing it's going to be, but
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it's not going to change our personalities in that way.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: God made us an individual for a reason, So it
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: really just goes through some of the physical changes that
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: will go through, some of the new capabilities will have
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: and are. I think one of our best examples is
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: when Jesus was resurrected.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he's the first fruits.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: It probably makes sense that that's our best go to thing.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And isn't it interesting that I love the account where
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: they're all in a room and it's all closed in everything,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and Jesus is just there. It's like he went through
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: the wall, almost extra dimensional stuff like. And so I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: believe that our future bodies are going to be glorified.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: They're going to be you know, in a sense we
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: would say, you know, celestial or spiritual or whatever, but
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I think that that's synonymous with extra dimensional and I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: believe that that's what we were always supposed to be.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: And but with sin and everything, that degraded everything. So
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: that's mainly what that chapter was about to just give
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: some people some hope and say, hey, and if you're
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: not a Christian in reading this, you should seriously give
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Jesus some more thought, because you don't want the future
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: that you'll get as a non believer. You want this future.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: You want this glorified future where you get to escape
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: all of that in a very good way.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So absolutely, I mean, and we again, senior chapter, we
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: take great comfort Philippins three, twenty twenty one. We see
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: in fet Trade fifteen that it says clear that our
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: lowly body is going to be conformed into his, something
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: like his glory glorious body, and we bury the image
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: of the earthly man, we're going to bear the image
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: of the heavenly man. So you have at least two
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: references of that our new body, our new glorified body,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: which is going to be like his, so we don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: have to guess about it, we don't have to speculate.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: It's pretty awesome. And again looking at some of these
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: characteristics of what he was capable of is fun as well. Well. Josh,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: appreciate your time. As always, here we have supernatural signs
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: of the end times, the final cataclysm, and if you
• 45:00
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• 45:04
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• 45:07
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• 45:11
  Speaker 2: again other things that are just we're living in the time.
• 45:14
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• 45:18
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