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The Late Debate | 28 April · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Lake to be.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm done giddy Georgio tonight,
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  Speaker 2: joined by Kayla Bond and Joe Hill to a brand gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: good evening, Great to be here, Lovely to be Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're yeah, fired up ready?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Lovely to be had, Well.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to have you. I feel like you're a
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  Speaker 2: regular these days.
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  Speaker 3: I count.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I don't actually really even have a role here.
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  Speaker 1: I just sort of sleep here because I think you
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  Speaker 1: do between marriages at the moment. Every once in a
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  Speaker 1: while they start rolling the camera.
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  Speaker 4: I heard a vicious rumor, Joe that you like being had.
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  Speaker 1: I do like being had. Yeah, yeah, I've had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times this morning.
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  Speaker 2: And look, you know what, I don't know where this
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  Speaker 2: conversation is going, so all right, well, look, maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: time for me to introduce what's coming up tonight to spare.
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  Speaker 3: Us all, so stay tuned.
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  Speaker 2: School children in the UK and courage to wear tracksuits
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  Speaker 2: as part of an inclusivity drive.
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  Speaker 3: Whatever happened to having standards? Forget the manisphere?
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  Speaker 2: What about the angry lefty women who hate men marriage
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  Speaker 2: and capitalize We'll get to that shorely, how big of
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  Speaker 2: a risk is this to society? And wait till you
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  Speaker 2: hear how many world wars Democrat Ilanoma Pix there's been
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  Speaker 2: the first to night. Our fertility rate is in decline
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  Speaker 2: as many Aussies choose to have kids later in life
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  Speaker 2: or not at all, and of course due to the
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  Speaker 2: impact of the cost of living crisis. But is there
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  Speaker 2: a poorfect replacement for children. Well, the number of dogs
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  Speaker 2: per household has actually overtaken the number of kids in
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  Speaker 2: some suburbs. And if you want a sense of just
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  Speaker 2: how much things have changed, look no further than Sydney's.
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  Speaker 2: In a West, around fifty thousand dogs are microchipped across
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  Speaker 2: the local government area. That's up from about forty three
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  Speaker 2: thousand in twenty twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: And have a look at these.
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  Speaker 2: Marrickville leads with around four thousand, three hundred, followed closely
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  Speaker 2: by Leichhart.
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  Speaker 3: And bau May.
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  Speaker 1: Hang on, they don't tell you how many kids have
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  Speaker 1: been microchips.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's that's true. That's actually good point exactly.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Look, the demand is actually so high that Marrickville daycare
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  Speaker 2: center Kip Happy Stays, has rolled out additional services in fact,
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  Speaker 2: one in a West local spends close to ten thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars a year on daycare alone to work full time.
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  Speaker 3: At her office job.
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  Speaker 2: The French bulldog owner told nine newspapers, I think more
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  Speaker 2: people would have children if homes weren't ten times their salary,
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  Speaker 2: if childcare were completely free or more heavily subsidized, and
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  Speaker 2: if there was easy, uncapped and free access to specialized
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  Speaker 2: services pre and post birth. Now, look, I have been
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  Speaker 2: a very big advocate for dogs on this paddle, as
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  Speaker 2: you both would.
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  Speaker 3: I'm always.
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  Speaker 1: Just there bar that whole. I'm feek down it.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, but that's the point. Dogs are the best company.
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  Speaker 2: They really are man's best friend. They are there to
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  Speaker 2: comfort you through the good and through the bad. Do
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  Speaker 2: I think they should replace a child? Absolutely not. But
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  Speaker 2: in terms of the cost, I actually agree with what
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  Speaker 2: has been outlined in that article and I had a look.
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  Speaker 3: So owning a.
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  Speaker 2: Dog in oz On average costs about three thousand, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred per year, but if you're setting up the dog,
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  Speaker 2: it's about ten thousand dollars for the initial startup dogs
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  Speaker 2: and food and treats about two thousand dollars per year.
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  Speaker 2: But the cost of veterinary care would be ridiculous. And
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  Speaker 2: of course if the pet doesn't have any insurance and
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  Speaker 2: suddenly the dog needs surgery, good luck to you. But
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  Speaker 2: compare that, Joe.
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  Speaker 1: One a half grand.
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  Speaker 3: Compare that to.
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  Speaker 2: A child on average per year, it's about seventeen thousand
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  Speaker 2: dollars per child over eighteen years.
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  Speaker 3: It's three hundred thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Dollars for the first child and two hundred and thirty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars for child.
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  Speaker 3: Number two Joe.
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  Speaker 2: So look, I can understand the argument. Do I think
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  Speaker 2: that dogs should replace kids?
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  Speaker 3: No? But they are man's best friend.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah they are. Look we've got firstly, this is actually
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  Speaker 1: the LGA Local government area that I live in, although
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  Speaker 1: I live in the very last street, So I actually
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  Speaker 1: I live in the Inner West Council in the Outer
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  Speaker 1: Inner West, but the other side of the street and
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  Speaker 1: our closest shops are in fact in another LGA, So
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  Speaker 1: I identify as a resident of Southwest Sydney. Represent anyway, next.
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  Speaker 4: Thing, you'll say, you're a woman.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got three kids and three animals. I've got
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  Speaker 1: to tell you they're quite different.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: The animals have four legs and fur and can't talk.
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  Speaker 1: And really terrible panelists on this show, whereas the kids
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  Speaker 1: have two legs and won't shut up, and we'll probably
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  Speaker 1: end up having to do television presenting because they don't have.
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  Speaker 4: Any other skills, and the animals whatever you give them to.
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  Speaker 1: This is I think, Okay, I think, yes, Marrickville and
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  Speaker 1: the Inner West is very, very expensive to live in.
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  Speaker 1: Trust me, I know. But if you really want to
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  Speaker 1: have kids, you will find a way to have kids.
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  Speaker 1: You will have kids, you will move. And we know
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  Speaker 1: that people are doing this. Stories have been written in
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  Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraph time and time again about this great
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  Speaker 1: sort of migration from the inner city where Marrickville and
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  Speaker 1: these other suburbs are, to the fringes of the suburbs,
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  Speaker 1: to the regions. Right, So don't pretend that you can't
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  Speaker 1: have kids just because you live in Marrickville. If you
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  Speaker 1: want to have if you're choosing between Marrickville and having kids,
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  Speaker 1: and you choose Marrickville, you don't really want to have kids.
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  Speaker 4: Well, but I think it's not just about the cost
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  Speaker 4: of living. It comes down to the demographics.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So we're talking about the inner Wist of Sydney, where
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  Speaker 4: I also live. In fact, bal Maine, where I live,
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  Speaker 4: is third on the list of the top dog locations
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  Speaker 4: in the Inner Wist. I do not contribute to that.
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  Speaker 4: I have two cats, so I don't know what the
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  Speaker 4: numbers look like on that front. But they talk about
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  Speaker 4: there's nearly fifty thousand marcroship dogs in the Inner Wist
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  Speaker 4: in the last census, which was twenty twenty one, so
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  Speaker 4: the number is probably higher now, but as a proportion,
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  Speaker 4: I would have thought it would probably have gone backwards
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  Speaker 4: from twenty twenty one. But they had thirty four thousand,
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty seven people in the Inner West
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  Speaker 4: Council area who were between the ages of zero and nineteen,
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  Speaker 4: so even just slightly over the eighteen bracket. But I
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  Speaker 4: think this is quite instructive. In the Inner West, forty
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  Speaker 4: eight and a half percent of people have never been
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  Speaker 4: married compared to thirty five point seven percent across the
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  Speaker 4: rest of New South Wales, and those who have been
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  Speaker 4: married or are married. In the Inner West it's thirty
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  Speaker 4: seven point one percent versus forty seven point three percent
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  Speaker 4: across New Southwest, so it's basically inverted those two numbers.
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  Speaker 4: In the Inner West. You've got a lot of young people, yes,
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  Speaker 4: or not even young, but sort of older young, if
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  Speaker 4: you want to call it that, and they would be
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  Speaker 4: in the millennial category who if their blokes haven't grown
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  Speaker 4: up enough yet to decide that they want to have
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  Speaker 4: kids or have this idea that I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: have kids. And you've got women who also for the
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  Speaker 4: same reason, and it's full lefties in the Inner West.
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  Speaker 4: They've decided that it's bad for the world or the
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  Speaker 4: planet or something if they have children of the climate,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm not going to have kids, or they're girl
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  Speaker 4: bossing so hard that they've convinced themselves that they can
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  Speaker 4: wait until they're fifty seven in order to have a child.
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  Speaker 4: And at some point reality is going to mug you
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  Speaker 4: and you're going to discover that you can't have it all.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the inn the West is probably a great
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  Speaker 4: microcosm of this kind of person who is not having
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  Speaker 4: kids either because they think they don't want to, and
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  Speaker 4: I suspect most people will later realize they actually did
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  Speaker 4: want to, or they're putting it off. But the reality
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  Speaker 4: is though that they're trying to plug that hole that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't exist with the children with a dog, which would
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  Speaker 4: seem to indicate to me that they do actually want children,
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  Speaker 4: no matter how hard they tell themselves they don't, I
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  Speaker 4: or that they will wait.
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  Speaker 1: To have them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't agree with that at all. I don't agree
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  Speaker 3: with that.
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  Speaker 2: I know so many people who have dogs and they
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  Speaker 2: are genuinely happy saying this is my family, my son
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  Speaker 2: or my daughter is my dog.
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  Speaker 3: I know people who are.
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  Speaker 4: My kids, your age, my age, who would Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm not talking old, I'm talking I'm talking around
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  Speaker 3: our age. I'm talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: But so I disagree with that notion where you know,
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  Speaker 2: I do think that people do believe that dogs can
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  Speaker 2: replace a child, and they genuinely believe that, and they
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  Speaker 2: are also very and I agree. I do not think
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  Speaker 2: that dogs can replace children. I don't don't agree with that.
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  Speaker 2: But I do think that there are people out there
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  Speaker 2: who are very, very satisfied with their life with a partner,
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  Speaker 2: a husband, or even solo with the dogs, and that's
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  Speaker 2: the way that they live.
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  Speaker 4: Some people are like that, but I think there are
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people convincing themselves that that's how they
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  Speaker 4: want to be, and they actually don't.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's also a lot of people who just
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  Speaker 1: don't have a choice. I would love that they could. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: haven't been able to do for whatever reason. And and
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  Speaker 1: the dog sort of fills that. Boys, I've got something
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  Speaker 1: something to take care of. And that's also But I
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  Speaker 1: think the point remains is that inn where is not
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  Speaker 1: where you go to have kids because it's fun, because
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, got lots of citing cultural attraction and
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  Speaker 1: nightlife and stuff. In the old days, you go there.
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  Speaker 1: If you're a student in a big sharehouse, you probably
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  Speaker 1: can't afford to even do that anymore. Either way, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you are going to have kids, you are probably
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  Speaker 1: going to move further out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can have some lands. You see some
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  Speaker 4: interesting specimens in the inn weestas as you would will know.
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  Speaker 1: We're not just talking about the animals.
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  Speaker 4: I was at a peters From public house on Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: playing two up with one of our fellow hosts here
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  Speaker 4: at SCAR News. You see some interesting people move through there.
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  Speaker 4: So maybe it's best local identities. Yes, yes, so maybe
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  Speaker 4: it's best that some of them don't have children. But
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  Speaker 4: some of these people who replace the possibility of kids
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  Speaker 4: with dogs, you'll also discover that they treat their dogs
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  Speaker 4: exactly like children. They think they should be absolutely everywhere
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  Speaker 4: at all times. How dare you criticize my dog for misbehaving? No,
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  Speaker 4: my yog can do that. Yes, he can do a
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  Speaker 4: turd on your lawn. How dare you complain about it?
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  Speaker 4: You want me to pick it up off the footpath? No? No,
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  Speaker 4: there is no way my dog was digging a hole
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  Speaker 4: in your garden. Because this is exactly how they would
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  Speaker 4: parent if they had had a child as well. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm sure you have seen this across or many places.
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  Speaker 4: You've been increasingly parents just seemingly unwilling to do anything
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  Speaker 4: about unruly children. There is not the discipline in the
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  Speaker 4: home that there used to be. So how glad was
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  Speaker 4: I to see a bloke called Tom Bennett. Now he
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  Speaker 4: is the UK Department of Education's Ambassador for Attendance and Behavior,
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  Speaker 4: and he spoke to Susie O'Brien at the News Court
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  Speaker 4: Papers and delivered a lovely dose of common sense about
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  Speaker 4: what's going wrong in our schools. Of course, we talk
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  Speaker 4: about why the kids are misbehaving so much in schools
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  Speaker 4: and you know why can't the teachers rain them in?
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  Speaker 4: He says it is the parents. He says some parents
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  Speaker 4: have very boundaries with their own children. They allow them
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  Speaker 4: to be on their iPads and phones all day and
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  Speaker 4: think that that's loving and caring because that's what they
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  Speaker 4: want and it's making my child happy. Teachers are having
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  Speaker 4: to teach a cohort of children who've come from low
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  Speaker 4: boundary environments where, for instance, they think they can do
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  Speaker 4: what they want and that they're the most important person
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  Speaker 4: in the room, and that their feelings are the only
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  Speaker 4: feelings that matter. Those schools need to build structures a
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  Speaker 4: behavior curriculum from the ground up. What he's saying is
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  Speaker 4: you don't get to complain about your kid coming home
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  Speaker 4: not doing well at school if you're not doing your
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  Speaker 4: bit as well. And spot on he is for pointing
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  Speaker 4: this out. I mean, it all started going wrong when
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  Speaker 4: we decided that kids wouldn't have scores in their school
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  Speaker 4: sports and their weekend sports anymore. You know, everyone gets
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  Speaker 4: a participation medal. It's all right, We're only here to
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  Speaker 4: have fun. No one's here to win to win, that's
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  Speaker 4: the whole bloody point. Yeah, we've treated kids. We're molly
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  Speaker 4: coddling kids. We don't let them go on you know,
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  Speaker 4: dangerous play equipment because you know, oh, my god, little
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  Speaker 4: Johnny might fall off and break a bone or have
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  Speaker 4: his arm and a cast. I mean, this is part
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  Speaker 4: of growing up. You learn the boundaries because you make mistakes.
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  Speaker 4: Your parents pull them up, pull you up for it.
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  Speaker 4: You learn the boundaries because you fall off the monkey
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  Speaker 4: bars and you break your arm and you decide you're
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  Speaker 4: not going to do that again. Kids need the discipline
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  Speaker 4: and the consequences, and increasingly it would seem they're not
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  Speaker 4: getting that in the home. So how are we to
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  Speaker 4: expect that teachers and then have any discipline in the
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  Speaker 4: classroom because that the kids aroundruly to begin.
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  Speaker 3: I absolutely agree.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there is nothing worse when you're out in public,
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  Speaker 2: right and you see an absolute brat of a child
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  Speaker 2: acting like a brat, and you've got the parent going, oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't speak to mummy like that, don't speak to daddy
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  Speaker 2: like that, and you just want to literally pick up
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  Speaker 2: the kid yourself and say, yeah, do that again, do
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  Speaker 2: that again, try that again. But it is a gentle
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  Speaker 2: parenting approach. I feel like it's the new age of parenting.
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  Speaker 2: And my concern, and I'll get to the point about
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  Speaker 2: the schools in a minute, but my concern is that
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  Speaker 2: we are wrapping these kids up in cotton wool, and
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  Speaker 2: then this is going to be the next generation that
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  Speaker 2: are going to enter the workforce, one thinking that they
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  Speaker 2: can do whatever the heck they want, that they are
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  Speaker 2: entitled to whatever the heck they want, and two just
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  Speaker 2: being absolutely unlike with no resilience, no resilience whatsoever about them.
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  Speaker 3: And the workforce is hard. Life is hard.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to go through the ups and downs in life.
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  Speaker 2: You'll go through very, very difficult periods. How are these
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  Speaker 2: children ever going to cope when they've been wrapped up
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  Speaker 2: in cotton wool their whole lives. And as for the schools,
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  Speaker 2: I feel so sorry for teachers. No wonder teachers are
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  Speaker 2: leaving the profession in droves having to deal with said children. Now,
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  Speaker 2: obviously teachers can.
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  Speaker 3: Discipline it child. If a child is naughty in the classroom,
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  Speaker 3: they can really time out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, maybe that might be the solution, Joe. They give
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  Speaker 2: them time out, they send them to detention, fantastic. But
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  Speaker 2: the main discipline comes from home. It is about setting
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  Speaker 2: rules and about setting standards to educate the next generation
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  Speaker 2: to be a great adult, to be a moral citizen
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  Speaker 2: for the community. And this gentle soft parenting, Joe, I
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  Speaker 2: just think is an absolute joke.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a combination of things. I think
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  Speaker 1: a little combination of things. I think it's a couple
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  Speaker 1: of different things. So I think, to be honest, like
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  Speaker 1: we think not keeping score and kids every soccer game,
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  Speaker 1: every footy game, the kids know the score. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: matter that it's on the score not But I think
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  Speaker 1: most schools, and it's really good, they try the first
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  Speaker 1: thing they try to do is make sure that the
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  Speaker 1: kids are all respectful, that they're part of the school community,
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  Speaker 1: they're proud of their school, that they look after each other,
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  Speaker 1: they have no tolerance for bad behavior and all that
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  Speaker 1: sort of stuff. And if those kind of moral values,
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  Speaker 1: or if that moral code isn't reflected in the home,
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  Speaker 1: then that just makes it so much work. So I know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm one of my favorite things to do is to
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  Speaker 1: go to all these public schools where they've just turned
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  Speaker 1: them around, and not just in nice little areas or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: but in some of the most challenging like them the
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  Speaker 1: high school servicing the Macquarie Fields area, it's just a
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  Speaker 1: couple of decades ago was the site of all those riots.
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  Speaker 1: A majority of kids I believe are from public housing
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  Speaker 1: and they have done this phenomenal job of turning that
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  Speaker 1: school around and make it a school where they don't
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  Speaker 1: just teach the kids to get by. They teach their
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  Speaker 1: kids to excel and to shoot for the very best.
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  Speaker 1: And they are getting those results, and they get it
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  Speaker 1: through things like making the kids where a blazer entire
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  Speaker 1: so they have pride in their school, you know, again
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  Speaker 1: reporting any graffiti they see. They've got other stuff like
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  Speaker 1: a one step shop. But they told me and again
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  Speaker 1: it sort of breaks your heart. The worst part of
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  Speaker 1: any school year for them is all straight after school
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  Speaker 1: holidays because they know that all the work that they
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  Speaker 1: have done, all the boundaries they have been setting, and
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  Speaker 1: all the moral instructions for a lot of kids, that
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  Speaker 1: has all just disappeared and sort of run down the drain,
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  Speaker 1: and they basically have to start all over in January
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  Speaker 1: or February. And I think that is the most important thing.
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  Speaker 1: It is a combination of one or the other. Of
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  Speaker 1: it is either you know, wanky parents who think that
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: their little angels are just darlings who can do no
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: wrong and have a sense of entitlement and think the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: school should be providing everything that their child might happen
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: to it, and they're just a nightmare. They're just terrible.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: And there are also I think parents who are just
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason or another, often through hardship or their
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: own upbringing, just aren't equipped to instill in their kids
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: a sense of right and wrong, a sense of justine
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: and I'm crap as well. God, I'll let my kids
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: on the iPhones far more than we should and everything,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but I'm always always hammering them. What is the right
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: thing to do that you never talk back to your teacher,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: that you know that you you always think of other people,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: not just yourself, cetera. Said all these things that you've
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: got to just ram home, and you've got to say
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: it a hundred times to kids before you've even got
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: a chance of them, you know, actually processing it. So
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: you can imagine how people who are either working too
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: hard or not really quite sure what they're doing, or
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: have other issues in the home, or are just again
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: stuck up wankers who think that their kids are the
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: apple of their eye, they are always the worst ones.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I've seen it with my own eyes. I've had
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: someone I know when their kid I think was very
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I won't say who it was, obviously, but their kid
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: took a toy that another kid was playing off it
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: with and grabbed it off him. And I started pointing
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: that out and that the parents said, oh, well it's
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: his anyway, so I should you just able to take it.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: And I thought, that's it, that's it for life.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: I mean the thing is, though, when you spoke about
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: your own kids their drama, in the end, you're setting standards,
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: and I think that that's.
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: A bit of you're leading by example.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's all about setting standards, isn't it really.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: But there's a shame, it is a real shame that
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: there are standards going down the drain because over in
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: the UK there is a push for school children to
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: wear tracksuits to school as part of a quote inclusivity drive.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: And you cannot make this stuff up serious so that
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: this is incredible. The push is coming from a Commons Culture,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: Media and Sport Committee report which told schools to adopt
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: a sportswear friendly uniform policy. And I just want to
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: make the point that the chair of this committee is
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: actually a conservative MP. It sounds like an absolute wet
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Tory Tory. It's a woman actually now, the Cross party
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: group argue that such changes would make uniforms more inclusive
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: and remove obstacles to physical activity.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: The report suggested.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Current pe kit requirements create engagement problems for pupils. Now
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: here's an act an extract from that. It says, we
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: recommend that the government issue guidance making clear that schools
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: are expected to adopt pe kit and uniform policies that
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: prioritize comfort, inclusivity and dignity, particularly for girls and pupils
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: with protected characteristics. Sorry, one on earth is that do
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: we want kids to be a bunch of absolute slobs?
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Seriously?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Now, I was thinking back actually when I read this.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: When I was at school, we used to have to
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: change into our tracksuits when we did sport.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: But it was so strict that even.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: If you had sport as your last period of the day,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: we were required to change out of that tracksuit, put
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: our blazers, skirts or our ties.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: And shirts on to leave the school.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: And we weren't allowed to be seen at shopping centers
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: either in our tracksuit.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: That's how serious the policy was.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Now they're claiming here that you know this is part
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: of an inclusivity drive. Well, arn't school uniforms inclusive because
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: it makes everybody equal.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Everybody's wearing the same thing. You are not being.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Judged on what you wear, how you wear, your sense
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: of style. And I mean, this is just ridiculous in
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: my to say, oh, well, girls need to be more
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: comfortable in a tracksuit.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, if they're playing sport.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I would say, kayleb that they would be comfortable in
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: a tracksuit. But I mean, if you wear a skirt
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: or a dress that is just part of the school uniform.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: That is about again taking responsibility.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: And again it goes back to the discipline thing. It's
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: saying you're part of something greater than you when you're
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: representing something in the world and you know the clothes
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: you I know, some people don't like this anymore and
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: they don't believe it's true, or they're trying to make
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: it not true, even though it always has been and
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: it always will be. Not Aboriginal Land. Now, it's the
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: way you dress sends a message about you, and it
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: sends a message about the respect for the people around you.
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: It says something about what you're representing. A school wants
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: you to dress well because you are a representative of
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: the school. I don't see what the issue is with that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: I did think this was interesting. This report is from
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: gb News and they wrote in it Inclusive Sports Swear,
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: which is an organization that we started. In this report
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: from the House of Commons describe girls pea kits as
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: quote mandatory, over sexualized uniforms that offered a quote lack
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: of choice and comfort. Now my first comment is where
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: were these school sports uniforms when I was at school.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: I don't remember they over sexualized uniforms. Maybe I should
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: have gone to school in the UK. But my second
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: point is this, they say, a lack of choice and comfort.
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: This is what's wrong with the world now. We've decided
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: that choice and comfort are the most important things above
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: all else. This is why people people now want to
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: be able to go to the office in their bloody
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: active war and their tracking ACKs and whatever. And you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: how dare you say that I should wear a suit
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: and tie to the office. You know, people get on
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: planes now looking like they've just rolled out of bed.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: They don't dress up to get on a plane anymore,
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: because we've decided that comfort is more important than anything else.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: On a plane. I don't think anything wrong with that.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not on board with that.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: Are you wear a full suit and tie plane?
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: No? But I will wear trousers. Are the very least gene.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You'll wear this?
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: You would sit there like this and in the middle of.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I wear trousers, planes.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: My matching socks.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: You would be the absolute just fanciful thing of the plane.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't you just make an effort? People? And that's what
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: we're you know, no one wants to make an effort anymore.
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: It's all about comfort. And what was the other one?
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Choice?
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Choice?
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you don't get choice because you're a school student,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: for heaven's sake. And if you're a little bit uncomfortable
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: in your blazer all day, I couldn't give a toss.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: What if you're wearing something so cool, you can say
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it's choice, abro You know, I think it's all about
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: And again, this is something really serious. Not to hit
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: it with the boring stick. But again, the first thing
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that these principles do when they see school struggling and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: they turn it around, is that they make sure all
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the kids are wearing the school uniform. They're wearing it properly,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: and there's zero landitry and it sounds and it sounds
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: sort of superficial, but it's actually not, because it's like
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the broken window theory. Once you start paying attention to
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that and say, all right, I'm proud of my school,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and I'm proud of the way I represent my school,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and that's reflected in the way that I wear my uniform,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: then it will be reflected in the way that you
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: work and that you do your homework and that you
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: try in class, and that you go and you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: do your sport thing, which obviously I always excelled in
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: tracksuit pants or night although I preferred to wear a
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: little pleated miniskirt.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. I would have loved to say that.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: My catory and over sexualized.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Now let's get to ISIS brides. Now, I think whatever
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: your position on ISIS brides, it's fair to say you
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: don't awfully often see them in over sexualized active wear.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: I think here we can all agree on that.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: That's a very good point.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Great, but anyway, two women who are linked to ISIS
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: part of this cohort I believe, are expected to be
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: arrested when they returned to Australia. According to new information
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: obtained by Sky News and Liberal senator James Patterson on
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the program earlier this evening has accused the Albanesi government
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: of gas lighting over the return of the brides. Let's
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: have a listen to him on Shari earlier this evening.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: The contrary to the rhetoric of some of the supporters
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: of this and sometimes the government, these people do represent
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: a possible security risk to Australia because they may have
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: committed offenses while they're overseas sufficient that they should be
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: charged when they arrive home. But it also means they
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: are probably eligible for the threshold for a temporary exclusion order,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: which is a power that the government has to keep
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: people offshore not indefinitely, but for up to two years
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: if they are likely to have committed a terrorism offense.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: So the government has only applied for one temporary exclusion
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: order for this cohort. We don't know if it's one
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: of these two people, but at the very least there's
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: at least one other person. They probably could apply for
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: that along with denying these people passports because they've effectively
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: repudiated their loyalty to Australia and they presented a secure
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: risk to our country.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: So we know and again this is breaking tonight in
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: another great scoop by Shari. But we know that one
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: of the cohort, if it is indeed the same cohort
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: that was under the protection of the Kurds nonetheless in Syria,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: who previously the Syrian authorities wouldn't let go out of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: the Kurdishly run detention camp, please try to keep up
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: here a refugee camp. We know that one of those
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: was already refused a passport back to Australia because she
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: did not clear the necessary security checks. And now Shari
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: is saying that two who obviously because they're going to
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: arrive here have been given passports, will be arrested when
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: they arrive. Controversial, hot take here. Doesn't this mean the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: system works and that the security agencies are actually on
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: this and they know who the threats are and they're
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: going to arrest the ones they consider a risk as
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: soon as they.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Well it look at foot on as if they are
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: coming back. Yes, they ought to be arrested, but why
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: have we not taken every possible measure to try and
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: prevent them coming here in the first place. You know,
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: I understand this business about they are citizens and so
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: therefore they have a right of return. But obviously the
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: Home Affairs Department has at some point of immigration has
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: given them a passport, which you know, maybe we could
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: have delayed that or found ways around that. Surely we
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: should have explored every possible avenue to stop them ever
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: getting back here in the first place, because you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: once we arrest them and lock them up, then we've
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: got to pay for the business through the courts, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: then if they get locked up, we'll have to pay
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: for them to stay in prison and whatever. Why can't
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: we just leave them on the other side of the world.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: I think that is you've already sort of nailed it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: I think the fact is, if they are Australian citizens,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: they are entitled to an Australian passport, and if they
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: can get to a consulate or an Australian embassy official
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: themselves or through an intermediary and request that passport, there
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: is no legal basis for the government to refuse it,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: and so to stop them.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: The thing is is that we have been down talking
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: about isis Bride violate the compt But we've been talking
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: about isis bries now since February? Right, This has now
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: been going on since February, So this can't come as
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: any shock that you know, here come the brides. None
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: of us are shocked. The Passport Act is clear, it
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: can be denied if someone might prejudice the security of Australia. Now,
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I would argue that these women do meet that threshold.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: So between February to now, why haven't Why hasn't there
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: been any organization made to say, you know what, in
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: the event that these women do want to return to Australia,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: they do not meet the threshold for this country. You
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: can't just leave. We say this all the time. They
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: can't just leave this country for the g Hardy romance
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: when ISIS is a listed terrorist organization and expect to
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: be welcomed back here with open arms. Secondly, as for
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: their children, I don't think the children should be allowed
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: back either. I just it's not their fault that they
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: were born into this situation.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: It's not their fault.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: But we don't know what these children have seen. We
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: don't know what horrors they have witnessed. I mean, remember
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: it was his name, Kaleg Sharoof. He was a former
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: ISIS fighter. Remember he held that the son held up
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: that seven head. We just cannot have this and it's
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: okay for Labor to say, oh, no, we're one step
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: removed from this situation.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: No you are not.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: You are not one step away from this situation. You
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: are fully involved in it. As the Government of Australia.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: You have decisions that you could have made. But again
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: we're still talking about it and nothing has changed.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: And you know, if the problem is a constitutional one,
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: which is obviously in terms of citizenship, if you took
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: it to a referendum, which is of course the method
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: by which you've changed the constitution and said we'll in
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: cutoclause or change something that says that, you know, if
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: you go overseas and join a terrorist organization, you lose
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: your citizenship. I suspect ninety nine point nine percent of
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: the country apart from some parts of Western Sydney, would
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: vote for it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: So it's an interesting one. I don't know where it
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: would do it. I don't know where it would sit
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: in the concerts, because of course the citizenship stuff came
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: much much later before that were all in subjects and
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: so that's why all those MPs got accidentally caught up
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: with dual citizenship. But certainly I.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: Think I think the twenty sixth of January nineteen forty eight,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: we became something that.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there's all these you know, But again
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: my understanding, and I think the High Court might have
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: been involved in this. I'm honestly just going from memory,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: but that is my understanding. The government feels it has
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: no legal basis. And again you're right, there is a
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: provision to deny someone a passport, but I think only
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: for two years, and that is what happened to that
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: one case. So it's interesting to know why there would
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: be enough grounds to deny one person the passport and
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: enough grounds to arrest another two when they arrive, but
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not to deny them the passport in the first place.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So that's a bit strange. I don't know how that works,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: but I think that is the problem. If someone is
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a citizen of this country, they are not. And the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: other thing is they're not a citizen of anywhere else.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: So you can't render someone stateless. If they've got a
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: dual citizenship, you can cancel and say all right, you've
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: got to go and use your Syrian or Lebanese or
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: whatever it is citizenship. You're not can't be here anymore.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: But if it's just Australia, or stateless. I don't think
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: there's any legal basis on which the government can do it.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean we're talking about again the Passport Act.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: There's a provision there. I just don't think.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I just can't believe that this hasn't been discussed prior
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: to hear come the brides. All right, well let's talk
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: about the Manisphere. Now, the manisphere you may have seen
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the documentary are talking about, you know, the likes of
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Andrew Tate, these dreadful, dreadful.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Type of men.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: But you know what we don't talk about enough the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: lefty angry women.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Women who hate men, they hate marriage, and they hate capitalism.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Now Here in the UK Telegraph a woman by the
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: name of Ron Pelly. She's penned quite an interesting argument
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: arguing that the likes of say, the Greats of the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: world or the Alexandria or Cazio Cortezes are actually the
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: biggest risk to society. She says, as the mother of sons,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I wish we didn't spend quite so much time knocking
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: young men. And to be honest, I actually have to
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: agree to her agree with her. In fact, our latest
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: polling suggests that she's actually correct that we talk way
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: too much about young men and how terrible men are
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: in general, but we don't talk enough about the angry
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: women who hate on men all all time.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: It says, young women.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Age between eighteen and thirty are by far the most
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: progressive demographic in the UK. The polling found that young
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: women are twenty six percentage points less likely to feel
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: positively about capitalism than young men, and much less likely
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: to feel the economy works in their favor. They are
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: also much more pessimistic about the future, their own and
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: everyone else's. They also feel much more negatively towards young
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: men than young men feel about them. You know, I
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: feel like men don't have a hope in hell right
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: now around the world.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I'm curious to get.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Your thoughts on this, but I mean, look, to be honest,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I have there are I have some friends who do
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: genuinely hate men. They just are very wary of men
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: for whatever reasons. I think that society plays a big part.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I think that social media.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Because they were sorry I told you to leave my wife.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: That social I think social media plays a big part.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: You hear a lot of song lyrics. Listen to Sabrina
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Carpenter's lyrics is very very favorite, one of my favorite goals.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: But it's it's it is true.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I do actually think it is a problem because there
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: are some bloody great men out there, aka the ones
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting next to on this very panel tonight, and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: I just don't think that all men should be logged
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: into this category that they're just horrible to women.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: It's just it's not the case.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: But there is a generation of young women who feel
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: very angrily towards men.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's the problem. They haven't been out
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: with me. I mean, you know, they would discover how
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: great men are using this as a day they were
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: single and ready to mingle. But you're right though, the idea,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: I mean's obvious how this has happened to some degree,
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: and it goes back to what I was saying earlier
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: about you know, they've been girl bossing so hard that
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: they realize when they turn fifty that they can't have
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: kids anymore. And we've kind of sold this idea to
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: women that equality is not enough, which is, you know,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: you can do what you want to do and you
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: shouldn't be held back because of your gender, which is
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: one hundred percent right. It then went a step further
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: and became, well, you should basically be exactly the same
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: as men. And I think what women are realizing without
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: actually realizing what the cause of it is, is that
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: they're not winning out of that. They're not doing well.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: They're not happy with the state of the world because
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: they've been told what their place in the world is
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: and it's not actually what they want to do. Now
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: they're rebelling and going even further to the left in
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: an effort to try and fix that, but it ain't working.
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, the New Statesman describes them as the angry
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: young women. They had this article recently, Meet the angry
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: young women across Britain. A radical new feminism is rising,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: was the headline over there before take it away. I mean,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: it's not quite the same angry young woman. I'm not
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: sure it works, but you know, maybe that's going to
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: be Billy Joel's next new hit. But it is. It
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: is true. It used to be the archetype of the
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: angry young man. Now it's the angry young woman, the
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: greater turks of them.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: This is the thing. Like the New Statesman is obviously
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a very trendy progressive magazine. So it's obviously not the
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: author who's saying that it's angry lefty women we need
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to worry about. The New Statesman is obviously saying, you know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: when it says meet the angry young women across Britain,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: a radical new feminine rising, they're obviously saying that like
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: it's a good thing. I think it is. Actually, again,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: it is one of those things where the radical left
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: is fueling the populist right or the radical right, whatever
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: you want to call it, is too stupid to know
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that it's doing it, and then in turn being fueled
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: and triggered by that and becoming more and more radical,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: which then so you've got this vicious cycle. So you've
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: got women who say, you know, all men are terrible
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: and rapists or potential abuses and masculinities toxic or whatever
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: whatever whatever, and then that drives young men and again
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you'd only have to talk to them. They're so confused
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: because I think, but that's not me. I'm not like
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that or that, Or you have some of the more
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: crazy kind of trans stuff where you know, men are
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: insisted on saying that you know, blah blah blah. And again,
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: boys who were just sort of discovering their own sexuality. Go, no,
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: that's stupid, that doesn't make any sense. And so they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: are going over to people like Joe Rogan, who I
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: don't count as a particularly toxic member of the manisphere.
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: But again, from there you might go to Andrew and
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: people who are really really genuinely nasty and horrible and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: do terrible, terrible things. And then of course all the
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: radical lefty women who drove the boys into their arms. See,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: we told you they were on toxic.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: It's a me too movement.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: There's a metom movement honestly has absolutely killed it.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: I think killed.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to give men a break, that's
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: what that's what I tooize.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: A lot of good has bloody good. Lot of men
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: now in need a YouTube movie. We need it, I
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: absolutely agree. Oh gosh, stay with us.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: Coming up after break, we'll take a look at the
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: day's front pages. For the very first time, Chinese evs
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: are being made available at the taxpayer expense to federal MPs.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: But what about the spy fears? That's next.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at tomorrow's front pages, starting with
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: The Australian. The headline up there, Chinese spy fears tossed
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: in the Bootmore EV choices for MPs. Chinese electric vehicles
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: have been added for the first time to the list
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: of taxpayer funded cars available to federal MPs for their
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: private use, despite as warnings over security issues and a
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: looming US ban. Six bid standing for b I D
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: Build Your Dreams models and a Chinese made MG were
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: added to the list of options for MP's private plate
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: vehicles from April one, including the top selling SILLI A
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: suv and the Shark plug in. Sorry, look the defense
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the Australian is very small writing and I wear contact for.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: You.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Look that the mockery, the mockery. Look, let's talk about.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: This is toxic masculinity. This is radical left.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I am the new Greater Thumberg. Now okay, how dare.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: You called Don Ferrill driving his Sharon?
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: See, I take back everything that I said earlier that
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: we've got to give men a p I.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Go, okay, all right, Look, I'm just going to make
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it easy.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I am. I'm Joe.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: I'm going to try and make a comment on this
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: because I'm being absolutely you know, attacked here. This is
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: a real worry. This this is certainly a concern. I mean,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: of course Chris Bowen wants I saw. I can't take
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: you seriously when you're doing that to the side of me.
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: Please just casually, I can't. I just.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: This is not working, is blind.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I'm trying my best to talk about Chinese evs and
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: you two are playing funny buggers, right. I mean, you've
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: got Chris Bowen out there wanting to give everyone needs
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: an EV and now we've got these taxpayer funded EV's.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: For goodness sake. We don't know the risks, we don't
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: know anything about them, but don't worry, they're all funded
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: by the taxpayer.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I can't understand it. It wasn't all that long ago.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Only a couple of months ago, wasn't it. We were
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: talking about the the U tongue or you long, but
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: no U tong you long as a horse.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: The ung But you're getting it right?
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, at least I corrected myself immediately.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: And I've corrected myself.
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: And there's something in here about a toy toyr Tar
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: predo as well. But the utoon buses out of China
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: that they've now in the UK and some of the
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Scandinavian countries. They've investigated them and found out that, you know,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: because they hook up to the mainframe back in China,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and that G can sort of wander in one day
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: and say disabled the buses. So we know this technology exists.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: Why the hell are we allowing MPs to have it?
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: Like there's lots of other cars you can get, Just
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: get another car.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: And it also says it even says in the article
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: so I can read it. But Mike Burgess said last
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: year that there was concerns about Internet connected vehicles.
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, Yeah, plenty of people have raised and
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: it just it makes no sense at all. Maybe G
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: told the Prime Minisy, you would know, Joe's g all
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: the Prime Minister to do this so you can have
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: extra access to.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: All I know is that there is no way on
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: God's green Earth that the Chinese are going to be
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: able to hack the falcon.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Only the German cockroaches.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, German cockroaches. They are all over it, and they're
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: possibly reporting back to Vladimir Putin. But apart from that anyway,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: let's go to Marty Daily Telegraph here, and this is
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: an absolute cracker of a yarn from a very good
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: friend of yours and mine, Kayla Susan Giuliani, gun reporter
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: who's just come over to the telly from the bleak
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: City of Melbourne campus rant calls for interfarda and glory
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to our martyrs. Degrees of evil, get it because that's
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: like degrees University Degrees of Evil Exclusive by Susan Juliani.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: An article calling for a global interfada and quote unquote
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: glory to all our martyrs has been labeled appalling by
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: Jewish students after it appeared where else in the University
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of Sydney student publication. I remember when it used to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: be funny. If it's honey SWA, which I think it is. Yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: The Daily Telegraph can reveal an article by Selene Zau
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: published in any SWA on April twenty two, titled quote
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Who's afraid of Hesbela Huthi's hummas Islamic jihad i am
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: has been referred to university regulator, the Tertiary Education Quality
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and Standards Agency. The article, which has since been taken
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: down by the publication we think, declared the resistance deserves
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: our unconditional support until victory and glory to all our
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: martyrs From Gadigill to Gaza will have an into Fada.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: It also stated we are a branch of the Revolutionary Front.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: This is so Monty Python's for Brian, but Ani swat
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: used to be really funny and was actually one of
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: the inspirations for me when I was editing the Melbourne
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: UNI Student magazine at the same time, because it was
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: edited by the Chaser boys. Ah, that is how they
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: got their start. Yeah, that is how they made their note.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And I saw them and I went, oh my god,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: these guys are hilarious, totally irreverent. I remember they had
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: one one giant. They used to have a debate kind of
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: head to head sort of section on the back page
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: and the title was old People, landfill or part of society.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: It just point out the last line that says missus
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: Zoo also claims in her article the Isis Brides had
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: simply visited their families in Syria. Are just a little
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: casual soiree overseas with the band.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Because that's not what even the Isis Brides themselves said.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: That's what really annoys me about this too, apart from
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: the fact that it's just repugnant stuff, is that once
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: upon a time, student newspapers pushed the boundaries of like
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: generally accepted opinions. All they do now is published stuff
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: that all their other lift inmates think like. It's not
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: even revolutionary stuff anyway.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Because they are a branch of the Revolutionary Front.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: It's for goodness sake, people. I know that the Young
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Libs were trying to start a new newspaper at USAID
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: for a while, Bondoir I think it was called. They
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: asked a name they know it's Latin Latin. They asked
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: me to write a few things with which they did
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: like ten years ago, I don't know. Obviously didn't take
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: off anyway. On the front of the advertisers tomorrow it
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: says rapists paradise to go from one positive story to
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: another exclusive Here forensic mental health patients who have committed
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: violent crimes, including rape and murder are being adequately supervised
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: in the community with a medical body warning someone will
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: be hurt due to understaffing. So that isn't that great.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: They're just letting rapists and murderers and whatever with mental
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: illnesses wander around Adelaide. I mean, for goodness act. There
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: was a guy I remember a few years ago got
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: released from hospital. He was in there, you know, in detention,
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: mental detention. They didn't tell the cops they'd released him.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: He walked out of there and went and murdered someone.
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: It was three or four years ago. I just discrace.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Let's take a look at the Gold Coast bulletin end
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: of the road. The Esplanade at Surface Paradise faces permanent closure.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Would you believe under the biggest change the city's most
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: famous suburb has seen in decades. A super majority of
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: counselors back to one hundred and thirty eight million dollar
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: revitalization of the Gold Coast tourism heart at Transport Committee
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: meeting on Tuesday.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: This is big.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Actually, I mean everyone knows that big strip, the big Esplanade,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: it's the icon.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: Of of of a surface Paradise. Said, this is big.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: This, this is a fascinating, big, big change for the city.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: Indeed, I guess they're shutting it down to the traffic. Yeah, yeah,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: big pedestrian things, which I mean last time I was there,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: you couldn't really go very I just ran up and
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: down it and I reckon I was outpacing most of
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the car.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: Probably, But what are the local hoom's going to do
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: now to trek the building.
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: They trying to make it better. They're trying to they're
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: trying to make it look a bit more presentable. I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: would I would say you.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Can alway on the Gold Coast Highway mat. But there's no.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Chicks there to great, good, great, all right, we're going
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: to take a quick break.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: Coming up.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: How many world wars do you think that democrat ilan
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: omer believes there's been?
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: The answer might shock you. That's next.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show. What's going on with the
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: lobsters these days?
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: Caleb?
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: Well, it's not the lobster who is today's instrument, but
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: one who tried to steal you are times of the day. Yes,
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Emma Smart forty seven, she went to the old fish.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Market, so rather ironic names.
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, I know Smart by name, not by nature.
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: She're in the old fish market in Weymouth in Dorset,
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: in England, and she had one goal in man. She
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: was going to break into this joint and you can
• 45:51
  Speaker 4: see her here doing so, and take two lobsters that
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: she believed or take a lobster, sorry, that she believed
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: was going to be cooked up into turned into dinner.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: So she steals this lobster and takes it to release
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: it into the ocean. The only problem is that the
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: lobster was not destined for the play. It was in
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: fact a pet that was being kept in the tank
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: by the restaurant's owner, and it would have died the
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: moment it hit the cold harbor water. And not only that,
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: the other lobster that it was living with died from loneliness. Afterwards,
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: a stupid animal activist woman has managed to kill two
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: lobsters that she was allegedly trying to save, and for
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: doing so, she was charged and found guilty of criminal damage. Rightly, so,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, absolutely worthy dope of the day.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: These activists, by no.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just sick of these these activists. They are an
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: absolute nuisance. They are disgusting to be honest.
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: And killing lobsters.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: To kill the lobsters, she's forty seven, Yeah, eighteen year
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: old doing that, but she's forty seven, and get a lie.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Do you know that is actually the plot. I can't
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: go too much into it because it is a movie
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: that if you were a series TV show, if you
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: ever watch, you will not be able to unsee, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: that there is actually a plot device in a spoof
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: comedy about a guy who is sexually attracted to fish
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: who tries to liberate a lobster and also the ends
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: up dying, so they actually assume.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: What sort of things are you're watching, Joe?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: You know now that the government's banned anyways.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: Catch your VPNs.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Let's go over saying that in the UK now in fact,
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: where a Liberal Democrat led council has been ridiculed for
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: painting dny diny little three foot zebra crossings on a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: cycle lane. The road marking. It's just one stripe tended
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to help pedestrians cross the cycle lane and avoid the
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: pitfalls of being run over by an angry BMX.
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I'm confused.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: I'm confused by that. I would be confused. How would
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: you know? How would you know that that's a pedestrian?
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: How do you know that that's just.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: It's just going to get more people run over it?
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent you'd be absolutely snapped by cyclist.
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: I reckon. It's like, do you reckon? It's like a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: safety island where you could just stand on the white
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: bit in the cycles.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: That's what I think, it's that's what I think.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: On either side of this, only a council could think
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: that sort of thing out.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent council on there. But yes, yes, so yeah,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: maybe it could be what's her name? Someone smart? What was.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: Elan omer low Iq? Okay, a Democrat over in the US.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Now she said some really dumb things, but I've got
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: to say this was her finest ilan.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: How many World Wars has there been.
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: The last time the Alien Enemies Act was invoked, it
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: was used to detaine and deport German Japanese Italian immigrants
• 49:00
  Speaker 6: doing War War eleven.
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: World War eleven?
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: Wow?
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: Wow, wow Elan again, not bright low i q World
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: War eleven. There you go, some history lessons for you,
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: for you both from a star democratic that this could
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: be embarrassing yourself.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: You could please go and get a nice refreshing slurpee.
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: From seven to yes, but that is a that is
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: a very very good point.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Well, it's been a fun night, hasn't it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Caleb and Joe, thank you very much, Thank you for
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: your company at home, stay with us.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Rita panehy is next. Good night,