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Drew Lock Shines, JSN Goes Off, and the Defense Shuts Down Arizona · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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Brandan: Hello, and welcome to the Sea Hawkers Podcast.
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I'm Brandan Schulze, and I am joined by a couple of my good buddies who
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just got done doing an entire live stream for about three and a half
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hours as they watched this game versus the Arizona Cardinals live.
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We get the win 31 to seven, blowing out the Cardinals in their home stadium.
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How you doing, Adam?
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Adam: Hey, time flies when you're having fun.
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And boy, it was a ball in the second half, boys, as the Seahawks just
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throttled the Cardinals and then choked the life out of them down the stretch.
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Clinton, it was an enjoyable game.
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I love doing the, the live with you.
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Yeah.
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everybody that was with us too, that was a good time.
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lot of cool things to come out of this game, bud.
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Clinton: Yeah, man, you know, if you do what you love, they say
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it's, it's not work at all, right?
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So that was a lot of fun.
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Lot of cool things.
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And A- Brandan, you pointed out in the commenting at the end of the
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first half where, you know, I had a little, little consternation, a
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little, a little worry and concern that we're only at seven-seven.
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You're like, "We outplayed them, and we're the better team."
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You kinda like just put like something.
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I'm paraphrasing a bit.
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Yeah, yeah.
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But it kinda calmed me down a bit.
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I was like, "Oh, he's right.
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He's completely right."
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And then for the entire second half, starting with the kickoff
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we just absolutely BTA'd the Arizona Cardinals as…
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You know, they, they were cute thinking they were going to two and O, but
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it was inevitable, Brandan.
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Brandan: It, it was, and JSN was inevitable, catching three touchdown
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passes against this Arizona Cardinals defense, nine receptions, 155
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yards during the game.
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They, they put up the graphic, him against Marvin Harrison Jr.
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I would've been fine with the graphic of him up against Trey
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McBride- Uh-huh… because we played the Arizona Trey McBrides.
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And, and he finished the game with a respectable eight catches
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41 yards, and a touchdown.
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But, majorly dwarfed Adam, by the production of JSN.
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Adam: Absolutely, and McBride is a weapon, no doubt about it
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but it's really is about the only thing they have offensively.
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I mean, the graphic with Harrison in, JSN is hilarious as they, continue
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to compare former college teammates and how the Seahawks', college teammates
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came out im- were clearly superior in this game as, Jadarian Price also
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out-rushes Jeremiyah Love 52 to 29 yards.
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Hmm.
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But, Harrison was a non-factor.
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Michael Wilson I think had one catch- Who?
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… for a first down- Who?
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… that we were excited about.
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Clinton: Who?
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Adam: Who?
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Who?
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Who?
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it's a name I've heard.
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Okay.
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Good name.
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I, I don't know.
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Yeah.
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Clinton: Okay.
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Just making sure.
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Adam: But, Seahawks defense keeping everything in front of them
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throughout this game and really just kinda snuffing the life out
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of the checked-down Cardinals.
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Clinton: Mm-hmm.
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that was, that was probably the biggest observation the first half was
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like we're sitting there going like, "All they're doing is checking down."
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But early, Brandan, it was like they check down and get seven, so they're like in
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they're in second and two or three, and Jeremiyah Love looked fine at that point.
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And Allgeier can go get two or three yards, so didn't love that formula.
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But as the game wore on, they, they also took away, they just stopped giving away
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the free six, seven yarders, and the Cardinals had absolutely zero answers.
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it was…
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It all starts up front.
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We know that.
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And we, I feel like we, Brandan, got, as the game kept on going from
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the third to the fourth quarter, we just kept getting better.
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That was a, a very solid performance of four quarter football, second
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half being like magnificent.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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Great to see them just jelly it down the throats of the Arizona
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Cardinals toward the end of the game.
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We've got Ryan911, our live executive producer, coming in with a 9.99
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Super Chat.
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Thank you.
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"Go Hawks.
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Great team win.
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Drew looked incredible.
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JSN is inevitable, and the dark side is good."
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And Drew Lock finishing the game 19 of 26, 235 yards.
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That's an average of nine yards, per completion, three touchdowns.
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Of course, the 82-yarder, Adam, to kick off the game against the Cardinals.
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you know, you would think that they would've heard of this
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guy named Jaxon Smith-Njigba-
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on our Seattle Seahawks, and they go, "Oh, first passing play of the game?
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Eh, we don't need to cover that dude."
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Adam: No, we don't need to cover that dude that gave up the 82-yarder.
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Would've loved to have seen it.
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Thanks a lot, freaking Fox.
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Like- Oh my gosh… I did not need to watch Green Bay-Jets overtime.
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Oh, that's right.
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Didn't need it in my life.
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Didn't need it, but-
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Brandan: Let me tell you something else-… moving on… about that.
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You used- Yeah… to be able to, with DirecTV- Yep… if you had Game
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Pass, you could go to the four boxer.
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That's right.
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And it would show the four boxes of the live games all right now
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and they screwed us this year.
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I, I don't know what DirecTV is doing.
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Why can't we have the live box of the actual game that we're paying for
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with the, the, through the DirecTV?
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Adam: I don't
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Clinton: know, man.
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Yeah, they should all be on.
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That's it.
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They should all be available, right?
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So I think it's You- well, it's YouTube TV that owns it now, not DirecTV, right?
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Oh, yeah
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Brandan: you- YouTube TV.
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Clinton: But-
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Brandan: Whatever… the four- Those, it's those guys that are screwing us.
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Clinton: But the four box is great, but you're, I mean, you're 100% right, guys.
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It's just a shame, like, hey, there's, there's no space in the
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world where the game that you…
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the reason you subscribe to the whole package is to watch that team.
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Like, make a button, favorite team, click.
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Okay, so if overtime, play your favorite team game, override that?
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Yes.
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Very simple.
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Or like, hey, we're gonna assume, since it's your favorite team, you don't
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gotta go through these freaking hoops to watch your favorite freaking team.
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But I was happy.
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But
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Brandan: that's not the point.
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The, the point is- Yeah, yeah… Jason Smith and Jigba, with the touchdown
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Clinton: early-
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Brandan: Wide open… on in the game puts
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Clinton: us ahead.
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Wide open.
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Guys, they d- they decided to not cov- Budda is chasing him, like
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from 10 yards back, 10 yards back.
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And the, the cornerback just, like, lets him go.
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So I…
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clear, clear mis- miscommunication.
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Go back a wi- he's wide ass open.
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So between Budda probably thought the cornerback was gonna, you
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know, co- carry with him.
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Quarterback had other ideas, Adam, and, you know, very, very
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quickly it is 7-0, good guys.
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Adam: Yeah, it was.
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And what a great way for Drew to start out the game and have that big confidence
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boost and, you know, kinda get the juice flowing, for the full offense.
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Even though offense was a little choppy in the first half.
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couldn't really run the ball as effectively as they'd like.
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And, you know, they end up closing the half out 7-7.
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And then what's really amazing about this team is you have a set of
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coaches on their sides of the ball with Coach Mike and Coach Fleury
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that went into halftime and made some fantastic adjustments and were just
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completely dominant in the second half.
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Brandan: We've got Shane Turner Acoustic in with 799 Australian, "Total dominance
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no drop off lock, O-line dominant, D dominant, pre-snap penalty dominant."
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Yeah.
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"Shout out to my daughter McKinley for watching the game."
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Oh, you got a little watching buddy.
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And I, I did wanna go back to what you were talking about in
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terms of y- with the first half.
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It, the reason why, to me, it felt like, not a big of a concern
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i- is you compare the two drives.
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The Seahawks had what?
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six drives, I think, if you count that final one that was only like 25 seconds.
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But, they moved…
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A- apart from one, where they had a, a loss of negative two yards
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the first drive was the 86 yards after, the, the big touchdown.
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So 86 yard drive.
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Then they had a 27 yard drive on three plays, so they moved the ball.
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Then they had the 41, yard drive where, you know, they
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they moved the ball a little bit.
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I think they e- ended up having to punt that one.
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Turned it over on downs when they had the short field of 29 yards.
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So they were moving the ball every single possession, apart from one.
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And then you looked at the Cardinals, and their longest drive, which resulted
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in the touchdown, was the 53 yard drive.
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Adam: Mm.
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It, it was.
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And look, i- the offense, if we're gonna stick on that subject for a
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second, you know, the first half, one of the things that kind of kept them
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from staying on schedule and continuing those drives was there, there was three
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drops in the first half, you know?
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Mm-hmm.
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Two by- Yeah… Shaheed and one by JSN that were, kind of killers there.
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So yeah, it did feel like the plays were there to be made, in all of that.
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You mentioned the Cards, and they, they had the one long drive.
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It was a 12 play drive.
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Their next longest drive, and they had a couple of them, were six plays.
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Mm.
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Defense really stepped up and just smothered the life out of these guys.
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Clinton: We, we won by 24, so that's obv- obviously a blowout.
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In a game where we turned the ball over at the half yard line also.
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You know, this was-
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Adam: And Price had a fumble.
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Clinton: And Price had a fumble, right.
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So definitely had- Kind of a
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Brandan: fumble.
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Clinton: Well, he
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Brandan: r- I could picture, Clinton losing his mind- Well, yeah… about
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them not stopping forward progress in time
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Clinton: on that one.
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Look, back, it just, just my…
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You know, you guys know I'm not gonna drain it.
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My point is-… back in the day, that the whistle's blown because they
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all did it because they don't want a, a, a running back, you know, getting
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hit unnecessarily when the play's clearly over and momentum has stopped.
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So that's what they used to call.
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They don't do it anymore.
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That's fine.
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He's gonna hold them to the ball regardless.
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Not a great day for Price, but okay.
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Okay.
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And, seemingly and maybe a little dinged, guys.
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It looks like a, maybe a little bit of a chest injury.
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However- Yeah
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Brandan: L.J.
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Collier landed on him, pretty hard- Oh
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on that final run
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Brandan: where-
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Clinton: Ah.
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Gotcha.
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Okay
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… Brandan: so you could kind of see him getting up a little
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gingerly, and then he never made it back on the field after that.
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Clinton: One more point on, on, Price is that the nice thing is there's
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a play out there where Price is lowering his shoulder and running over Wingard
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and it's caught the- That's so good.
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It's…
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Yeah, it didn't, I didn't catch it live, but it's caught the attention
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of one Kyle Brandt who likes to do- Oh, yeah… the angry run.
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So at the very least, you know, he'll be an angry run candidate, it
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sounds like, coming in next week.
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I
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Brandan: think we should call him Wingard from now on after that hit.
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Clinton: Like-
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Adam: What, what, what's his actual name?
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Brandan: W-I-N- Wingard, Wingard
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Clinton: Oh, Wingard, yeah
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Brandan: Wingard?
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Clinton: Yeah, Wingard.
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Who pronounces it Wingard?
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Absolutely, we
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Brandan: can go.
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Yeah We, we've got Z- got Zero Hawk in with $10.
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Love it.
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JSN is like Thanos, inevitable.
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What a great win in the second half.
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Emanuel Wilson looked like a true RB one.
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Ooh.
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21 carries, guys.
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Sure.
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92 yards.
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And I know, Adam, you wanna switch over to the defense, but I keep
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I keep, hammering stats on the offensive side of the ball.
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Adam: Hey, hey, w- let's, let's stay on the offense then
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if that's your flavor of the day.
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After scoring 31 points, I can understand how you would get there.
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Look, Wilson in the second half, he, he really did bring the physicality
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and the offensive line did a nice job of giving him some room to work, and
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he just continually just jellied it and jellied it right down their throats.
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And there was nothing the Cards could do to stop it, and they were able to
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bleed out the entire fourth quarter nearly just behind the pads of Emanuel Wilson.
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So very productive day from him, and that was fun.
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Clinton: Very fun.
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Are we…
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Look, the stats, if we're looking at some of this stuff here, Emmanuel
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Wilson does the job, as you're saying.
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21, 92.
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Very, very good stuff.
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Price, 13 for 52.
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Not bad at all.
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So the averages of four and 4.4
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you know, going, going back up the chain towards Wilson.
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Are we at all concerned that it's the JSN show again?
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I know we won a chip last year, but I know the- I haven't thought
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Adam: on this.
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Clinton: Yeah Right, because, now Emanuel Wilson and Price
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combine f- we have 162 yards on the ground, 162, so, you know, take…
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That's really good.
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But the first half of last year was the JSN show until it wasn't, and then we
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kinda changed and became a different team.
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So if you have a thought on it, Adam, love to hear it.
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Adam: Yeah, I mean, it was right in the vein that you were going with
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there towards the end of your comment and just the idea of like this looks a lot
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like the offense from last year in terms of how it evolved throughout the year.
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We start out and, look, first game was a little rough.
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I can't remember how many points we scored against the Niners.
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It feels like it was about 13-ish.
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13 Yeah, yeah, you know, same as we did against the Patriots.
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And then, you know, the passing game was able to like pick up for the next like
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seven weeks or so, seven, eight weeks.
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And you could tell the Cardinals, they're like, oh, backup quarterback, all that.
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You're gonna run the football.
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They were really fixated on trying to stop the run and do it early, and so
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that opens up things through the air.
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And look, if teams wanna play us that way, that's the beauty
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of this style of offense.
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Clinton: Mm-hmm.
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Adam: If teams want to play you that way and they're like, "Look, we
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know you wanna try to run the football.
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That's what you guys do.
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That's how you won your Super Bowl by running the rock.
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We're not gonna allow you to do that," well, okay.
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Then we'll just do what we did the first half of the year and have the
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JSN fireworks show, whether that's Sam Darnold getting him the pill
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or whether that's, Drew Lock.
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So at the end of the day, it's kind of interesting to see the, offensive
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evolution of Fleury through two games really match what Kubiak was going
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through early in his first year as offensive coordinator for the Chiefs.
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Brandan: We've got DCH in saying, "This is nothing like the beginning of last year.
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Much better run game."
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And- And that's what I would point out, especially in this game
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too, Clinton, because- Mm-hmm.
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Okay, let- let's do the thing where you take out one play, and- and
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take out the 82-yard touchdown by JSN.
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Mm-hmm.
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Then it's eight catches, 73 yards, and two touchdowns.
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Clinton: Not that bad.
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It's
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Brandan: still not bad.
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No, no.
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But- but it's also you know, if- if you're gonna
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If it's gonna be the JSN show for touchdowns, okay.
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Clinton: Yeah.
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Brandan: No.
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That- that's fine.
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And- Great point… the- the number of passes, it- it was 19 total receptions.
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They- Wow… they pushed the b- th- that was for the entire offense, so- Right
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right… nine receptions of 19 goes to JSN, so they- they split it up 50/50.
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And then the other offensive plays, 40 carries on the ground.
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Adam: Wow.
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It's
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Clinton: perfect.
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It's actually perfect, right?
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That's a great balance.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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Adam: And that's the numbers you're gonna get when you get up
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early in the second half and you're trying to grind something out.
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And we kind of mentioned it during the live broadcast, is I enjoy the awareness
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of Fleury and the discipline to get into the second half and be like, "Look," like
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"we don't need to reinvent the wheel here.
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Let's just pound it down their throat, take the air out of the football.
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The defense isn't gonna let them score.
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Let's just win this game."
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Yeah.
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And I, I think that's a very mature, thing for a first time play caller.
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Clinton: Yeah, for sure, dudes.
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So I know, I know we gotta talk some Drew.
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We have to talk Drew.
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We haven't really hit him yet.
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I also do wanna just talk about our run D once again, 'cause
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there's some glaring stats there.
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So Brandan, it's always a choose your own adventure, buddy, but where do
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you wanna, where do you wanna go next?
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Brandan: I want to talk about the defense- All right.
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Oh, heck no… because when you hold…
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Yeah, I did.
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When you hold a team to just seven points-
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Clinton: th-
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Brandan: they, they allow one touchdown in the first half on
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it was a, it was short field.
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They only had to drive 50 yards.
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And, and then apart from that, yeah, they, they hold Jacoby
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Brissett to 95 total yards passing on 17 completions, 28 attempts.
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So that's, you know, 3.4
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average.
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I, I suppose the yards per attempt's even lower than that.
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and then the ground game, th- this team continues to stifle the
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run game of every opponent, and that was what Cardinals fans were hanging
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their hats on coming to this game.
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Oh, Jeremiyah Love, close the book, he's already better than Jadarian Price.
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Well, Jeremiyah Love, nine carries, 29 yards, 3.2
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yards per carry, zero touchdowns.
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This defense shut him down.
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They shut down Tyler Allgeier who had two yards per carry.
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The, the guy who ended up leading in average was Bam Knight because he
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had an 18-yard carry in the fourth quarter on their last possession.
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Adam: That's right.
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Hey, welcome to the dark side, Arizona Cardinal fans.
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this is what they do.
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You're not gonna run the football on this team.
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You're not gonna do it.
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We s- you know, shut down the Patriots last week, and to Clinton's
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point during the live stream, watching the Patriots today really
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run wild in their football game.
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So, yeah, this run defense is no joke, and when you take that away
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from a quarterback like Brissett, it makes it really difficult for him to
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just put it on his shoulders and go out and win the game, especially when
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the defensive line did such a nice job of getting pressure up the middle.
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And really making life uncomfortable.
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And then the funny thing I feel from this game, defensively speaking
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Clinton, you talked a lot about the Cards podcast you listen to.
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Yeah.
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And how they're like, "Oh, their secondary, there's
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nobody on their secondary."
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We're like, "Yeah, I know."
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they're gonna, they're gonna not allow anyb- buddy to do jack or
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[catfish] other than, Trey McBride.
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So, outside of McBride with his eight receptions, Michael
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Wilson, two c- two catches.
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Jeremiyah Love, so your running back with two.
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Mm-hmm.
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He was your second leading pass catcher.
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and then Kendrick Bourne with two, and then, Marvin Harrison, the
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worst Ohio State receiver, to say.
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Clinton: Dude, it
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Adam: yeah.
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So let's give credit to Pritchett, Thomas, you know, the guys that were coming in
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as backups and they did their job today.
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Clinton: Emmanwori back out there as well, right?
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Doing a nice job a couple times in, in the dropping back and his coverage
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as kind of a safety linebacker.
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But I was gonna, like, jump on the Trey thing, but then you kept on
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going, and I gotta start with, you know, Marvin Harrison was picked
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what, fourth overall, right?
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Yeah.
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Fourth?
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One target for z- for zeros.
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Z- guy- zeros, guys.
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So the problem with this is, like, the entire next week for Cardinals
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fans, like, they were like in a, a b- like, almost like a, a near
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heavenly state just last week.
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They're gonna be…
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This is not purgatory.
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This is like the, the Dante's, you know, steps of hell there, right?
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The layers of hell levels.
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They're pretty darn close to the bottom level now because they get blown out by
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big brother while wearing, wearing their rival jerseys, but their dude that they
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keep saying is a guy has a goose egg.
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And that is disgusting.
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Take it back to the top real quick.
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Yeah, McBride got eight, but it was for 41 frigging yards, guys.
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41 yards.
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Yep.
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They are nowhere near- And they
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Brandan: had to go for it- No… on fourth down to get that touchdown.
18:25
Clinton: Yeah.
18:25
Good
18:25
Adam: call.
18:25
Yeah.
18:26
Yep.
18:26
And look, he beat Job on that one, and sometimes- Yes, he did… you
18:29
get got and, and that's fine.
18:30
And Job
18:30
Brandan: played that well, too.
18:32
Adam: Yeah.
18:32
It wasn't like he was completely embarrassed.
18:34
It's not
18:34
Brandan: like he got, yeah, torched.
18:36
Clinton: No, he
18:36
Adam: he- But-
18:37
Clinton: McBride's way bigger.
18:38
That's what it boils down to Yeah
18:39
Adam: yeah.
18:39
DCH with a comment here.
18:41
"Love seeing, Jarran
18:42
Reed, looking 23 years old again."
18:44
Oh
18:45
Clinton: man
18:46
Adam: that
18:46
Clinton: sack.
18:46
Adam: I mean, we have to talk about the sack where, you know
18:50
Jarran Reed, he, added to his family.
18:52
I'm pretty sure he's a father already.
18:54
So, he can't be like Riley Mills here, become a father there.
18:57
But, boy, that was a man sack right there.
19:01
That was impressive.
19:02
Yeah, but- 'Cause Brissett's a big boy.
19:03
Brandan: Oh yeah, Brissett's big.
19:05
He went through the offensive linemen.
19:06
So you had, Jarran Reed with the one sack.
19:09
The only other sack was Leonard Williams on the day, so they, they
19:13
only get two sacks, but they do also get the interception from, Ooh
19:19
from our own Love.
19:20
And, we've got Tim Bosky12 with a 9.99
19:24
super chat.
19:24
"Love that the offensive line got better and Lock was great."
19:28
Yes, I do wanna get back to Drew Lock, but, yeah, how about Julian Love
19:33
with the interception, of the guy who just never throws interceptions, Clinton?
19:37
Clinton: Never, ever, ever, ever does.
19:39
He's got the lowest one, you know, since Aaron Rodgers, but here we are.
19:43
What a, I- live, I didn't think he caught it whatsoever.
19:47
I was like, "Oh, no, that, that…
19:49
He just, it just looked too wild."
19:50
He's sliding.
19:51
He, it must have hit the grass.
19:53
Then they go to that beautiful slow motion instant replay, Brandan, and Love got
19:58
the glove right where he needed to be
20:01
Brandan: I still think that JSN had a catch with his hand under
20:03
it and the, the, the- Me too
20:05
it just wasn't as good of a, a camera angle, but, Might've
20:07
been… yeah, they took that away.
20:09
But yeah, that Julian Love catch was amazing.
20:12
Dude was
20:12
Adam: sick.
20:12
Insane.
20:13
It was insane.
20:15
Look, Julian Love is balling out to begin this season.
20:18
It, it's something that we need to talk about more because when we
20:21
think of this dark side defense, we think a lot about the defensive line.
20:24
We talk about Emmanwori a lot, we talk about Spoon.
20:26
But Julian Love and what the, what he does on the back end to just kinda unify
20:32
the defense from back there, playing with a backup in Rodney Thomas, getting
20:36
everything aligned and organized.
20:37
A cerebral player that has made big play after big play, the
20:44
last couple years here, and he's starting out his season with a bang.
20:47
An interception in each game?
20:49
Like, that's huge.
20:50
I mean, are we talking Defensive Player of the Year, Mr.
20:53
Love?
20:54
Brandan: Man.
20:54
I mean, the dude is, right in line for All-Pro for sure.
20:58
Clinton: Yeah, he's-… he's early, early ballot leader
21:01
out of the gate leader to be like an All-Pro safety so far.
21:04
'Cause not that we're watching every single game and every
21:07
single snap, but man, can you play better football right now?
21:10
I don't think so.
21:11
Brandan: Shane Turner Acoustic in the chat saying, "Did anyone see Reed let
21:14
Brissett run into him like he was- Yes… another player and not sack him?
21:17
Funny after the game, not during."
21:19
The reason why that happened to Reed, though, is he was doubled over almost
21:23
on the ground, and then he got up and Jacoby just kind of runs into him, and
21:28
I don't think Reed, he wa- he didn't realize Jacoby still had the football.
21:32
Adam: Yeah.
21:33
He was just like, "Oh no, here you are.
21:35
Oh, no I could ta- Aw."
21:36
Like- Yeah… I think that was the, thought process there.
21:39
Clinton: Yeah, there's no way, 'cause he wouldn't do it otherwise.
21:42
But it, you know, it comes off as comical.
21:43
But in, in the moment, I'm like, "Dude, the guy's, like
21:46
running by you slowly," you know?
21:48
Like, "You might wanna tackle him."
21:49
But, but Reed blew things up, Leo blew things up, Byron Murphy blew things up.
21:54
Y- The nice part is we talked, we, we talked about exactly that as being the
21:58
key to the game and how Seattle can pull away and make what is a competent
22:02
quarterback in Brissett look bad.
22:05
You know, Jac- Jacoby Brissett's not a bad quarterback.
22:08
The Seattle Seahawks interior defensive line make him look like rubbish
22:13
'cause they do that, they, they do that to very good quarterbacks all
22:16
the way down to guys like Brissett.
22:18
Adam: Yeah.
22:19
I mean-
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Clinton: He
22:22
Adam: he, he's, he's a lower tier starting quarterback, so- Yes
22:25
Clinton: agree.
22:25
Agree.
22:26
Adam: Yeah.
22:26
Clinton: And we made him look exactly that way.
22:29
Some teams make him look like, "Oh, he looks good this week.
22:32
He's a, he could pitch the top 15," and then you play us.
22:35
Adam: Well, and that's what a bad starter does, right?
22:37
They can come in and they can, you know, look good against lesser
22:40
opponents, and then when they get up against the really top tier stuff
22:43
they just wilt and they have less than 100 yards passing and a pick.
22:46
and that's what it is.
22:48
So, like, you know, Brissett- Oof… a quarterback, he's a
22:51
he's a professional quarterback.
22:52
He's a professional.
22:52
And he is a starter, you know.
22:54
Again, 32 to 25, take your pick.
22:55
Clinton: Yeah
22:56
Brandan: I will stop saying good- We've got Godzera Hawk in chat, and
22:58
if you, if you don't listen to our pregame preview show, we had
23:04
we, we had the wishing well, Godzera Hawk, Marc came in with four wishes.
23:09
That's awesome.
23:09
And Phil, Phil said, "Hey, let's, let's try and limit it to three wishes."
23:14
Mm-hmm.
23:14
You know, that's, that's the rule.
23:16
But all four wishes come true, and so Phil's in chat saying, Godzera
23:20
Hawk officially the only person- Yes, there it is… who gets to make
23:22
four wishes from now on, I guess.
23:25
Adam: Yeah.
23:25
G- good job, Phil.
23:26
I was hoping that you would pick up on that in that exact way
23:29
because it's tradition now, right?
23:30
Like, now Clinton and I have to live stream games.
23:33
Like, 'cause we, we have to.
23:35
Yeah.
23:35
Clinton: I mean, thing, things are, things are cooking, boys.
23:37
I, and I, I've said this before and I'll say it again so this is not a jinx
23:41
because I kept saying it when it, when the streak was on last year, since we
23:45
got our second dog, Bowie, which was…
23:48
We got that dog on 12/12 last year.
23:50
That was the gotcha day for that dog.
23:52
Yeah.
23:52
12/12.
23:53
We haven't lost a football game, boys.
23:55
My dog Bowie, my second dog, remains undefeated as part of our
23:59
household, so let's, let's keep on.
24:02
Bowie, let's keep on running, buddy.
24:04
Love you.
24:05
Brandan: Love it.
24:05
That
24:05
Clinton: that's awesome.
24:06
Brandan: so yeah.
24:07
D- with turnovers, let's see.
24:10
Did we win the turnover battle on this one or did we end up tying?
24:13
I s- 'cause Julian Love had the INT, Price had the
24:18
Clinton: fumble.
24:18
Price fumbled, lost.
24:19
Brandan: So, th-
24:20
Clinton: Yeah.
24:20
Brandan: Yeah, there
24:21
Clinton: was- So one for one, yeah?
24:22
Brandan: Yeah, I think it must have been one for one.
24:25
Clinton: Yep.
24:25
I mean, she, he tried to, tried to give the ball away to start the second
24:28
half, but there was a Johnny on the spot who, made sure for us that it
24:33
turned, lemons into some lemonade.
24:35
Chazz
24:35
Brandan: Surratt, special teamer- Yes… of the game, guys.
24:37
Clinton: Yeah.
24:38
I mean, look, that's a…
24:40
The ball bounces the wrong way, that's a, that's an incredibly terrible start.
24:43
Instead, we take the ball, what, across the 50 and then just march right down
24:47
and score a tutty, so that's a huge play by Chazz to not only grab it, but then to
24:52
rumble, stumble, bumble for quite a bit.
24:54
Adam: Yeah, man, that was a, a super cool play.
24:56
Good to see Chazz Surratt get, a big play, you know, a key special
25:01
teamer and pretty darn cool.
25:03
I wanna talk about the defense just a little bit more in terms of, like
25:06
why this was a, a big day and why the Cardinals really did struggle.
25:11
And you start looking at some of the Cards' numbers here in
25:15
third down, man, three for 12.
25:18
Clinton: Geez.
25:18
Adam: Like, and the Seahawks were six for 13, so well over half of your…
25:22
Or just a hair under half of your third down conversions for the Seahawks.
25:26
That's the difference in the game right here.
25:27
Like, you know, Cards couldn't, convert, and then they couldn't get us
25:32
off the field, especially in the second half as they scored on every single one
25:37
of their drives, which is unbelievably impressive as they, they turn it up.
25:41
So basically go touchdown, field goal, touchdown, touchdown.
25:45
That's-
25:45
Brandan: One- The final touchdown was on a fourth down play.
25:48
They were, they were, oh for two on fourth down- Yes… efficiency.
25:53
And, and so they finally get the one at the end.
25:56
Clinton: The biggest difference in, in how we end up getting to, you
25:59
know, what, 25%, a third down conversion for the, for the Cardinals
26:05
is that the game started s- the game started out, they were like
26:09
second and two, second and three.
26:11
And then when we flipped the script and, and I think the
26:14
Cardinals threw the ball too much.
26:16
You know, they, they were, they were getting…
26:18
LaFleur got a little pass happy when he got down a little bit.
26:21
young coach, sure, but all of a sudden they were in third and seven
26:25
third and eight, third and nine, and they were converting none of
26:29
those when, when they got to that chapter, and that's how we closed.
26:32
Adam: Well, to be fair to LaFleur, after their early success on the ground
26:37
you know, I think they had, Love averaging over four yards a carry
26:41
like, early on or something like that.
26:42
We, we talked about it.
26:44
I mean, you see the graphic later on in the game where they're
26:46
talking in the twos, you know?
26:47
Yeah.
26:48
And the dark side just took the run game away.
26:51
And at that point then, what do you have left to do?
26:54
And that was to try to throw the football.
26:55
Clinton: Nothing.
26:56
Adam: So not, no good options for Mike LaFleur in his second game.
27:01
So Coach Macdonald- Yeah… officially owns, other LaFleur
27:05
Brandan: Got Tim Boski in chat, "Are we concerned about Shaheed?
27:09
Rashid Shaheed."
27:10
You mentioned the drops earlier.
27:12
he has the fumble on the return.
27:15
Yeah.
27:15
Is this one bad day, or is this something that is on your radar
27:19
then for future days, Glenn?
27:22
Clinton: It's…
27:22
I am on the record saying that I think Horton could be a, a
27:26
more effective wide receiver.
27:28
So, I'll, that's, so that's, that's where I'm at.
27:30
I think he'd be a more effective wide receiver.
27:32
With that, w- Sh- look, that was not a good day by Shaheed, and
27:36
I think he would admit that too.
27:37
He had two drops, not just the one glaring one, but he had one that he
27:41
should've caught that was, you know, not a great ball, but he should've
27:43
still s- should've caught it.
27:44
The fumble, as we talked about.
27:46
And also, after the mistakes, he makes a great punt return to run up on the ball
27:53
that, like, again, most players I don't think have the balls to go fair catch
27:56
it under traffic so it doesn't bounce at the 20 and maybe careen down to the 3.
28:00
That's a fantastic special teams play.
28:03
Then he has a nice return later.
28:04
So, it wasn't great.
28:06
It was certainly uneven, but the last two times he touched the ball as the
28:10
special teamer were really good, and he had a couple receptions on top of that.
28:14
Adam: Yeah.
28:15
And look, there's other things that Shaheed does, and I, I
28:18
wanted to highlight this for Mr.
28:20
Phil.
28:20
You know, Sh- Shaheed forces a safety to stay high.
28:22
If he's not out there, the whole offense goes differently, and so
28:25
there's a lot of truth in that.
28:26
But also, too, Brandan, you said, how many days, bad days
28:30
that, that Shaheed has had here?
28:32
How many?
28:33
One.
28:33
Brandan: One.
28:34
Adam: One.
28:34
Okay.
28:34
All right.
28:35
Yeah.
28:35
So it's one.
28:36
Once is a coincidence, and, like twice a trend, three times a you problem.
28:39
So we're nowhere near me being concerned about Shaheed.
28:42
I think he'll…
28:43
Th- this wasn't a good day, hands-wise.
28:45
Just didn't have it.
28:45
Don't know why.
28:46
You know, the football's weird that way.
28:48
But I, I think he's gonna be just fine moving forward.
28:52
Brandan: Yeah.
28:52
It does, it does put it on your radar though, because, m- as…
28:58
Let's see.
28:58
Who was it in chat saying that, he, he, he got his $17 million
29:02
payday, and, now maybe that's, that's a concern that I, I, I, I…
29:09
It's on the watch list now, but it's, yeah, it's not a trend yet.
29:12
It's like Myers, having the bad preseason, Adam, and then now
29:16
being perfect with his, field goals and extra points so far.
29:20
It's even-year Myers.
29:21
Adam: It's even-year Myers.
29:22
Good to see him.
29:23
you know, we even mentioned it in the live just like, "Okay
29:25
we're officially good with Myers.
29:27
Don't…
29:27
Not worried about that."
29:28
But let's not forget, like, going back to the rules of threes here, Myers
29:32
had three bad games in the preseason.
29:35
Three.
29:35
Right.
29:35
And that's enough.
29:36
It's not like any of us were freaking out after one, right?
29:38
So we're giving- We, we were
29:39
Brandan: freaking out a little bit after three.
29:41
After
29:41
Adam: three- We were… I was definitely freaking out a little bit.
29:44
Clinton: Guys, we haven't talked about Drew.
29:46
Oh.
29:46
Can we talk a little bit about Drew?
29:48
Is it time?
29:49
Adam: It's time.
29:49
Brandan: Let's, let's talk a little Drew.
29:51
Clinton: Yeah.
29:51
A little Hose?
29:52
Yeah, go.
29:52
You guys go first.
29:53
Brandan, especially you.
29:54
No, I'll go.
29:54
Yeah.
29:54
We, we, we've been talking for three hours.
29:56
The Hose.
29:57
What did the Hose do for you today?
29:58
Brandan: Yeah.
29:59
Well, 235 yards.
30:01
I, I think the, the, the three touchdowns, all to JSN.
30:04
But the big thing, guys, with that 139.1
30:07
quarterback rating- Whoo
30:09
the dude did not turn the football over.
30:11
I don't think he even put it in danger like he did against
30:14
the Patriots the one time.
30:16
So, for him to come in, manage this game.
30:21
Again, what we saw last week, you saw Drake Maye get impatient
30:27
in the second half- Mm-hmm.
30:29
Yeah… and start spraying the ball downfield.
30:30
There was no impatience to Drew's game, and he comes out and ends up with a
30:36
a very respectable 235 yards, puts it in the end zone, and then turns
30:41
it over to his running game to…
30:43
And you could just see how fired up the dude was after the game.
30:47
It was so good.
30:48
Adam: It was so much fun.
30:49
Celebrating Drew Lock, like, is one of the funner things to watch.
30:53
Like, when he's having himself a day and having a good time.
30:56
I'll say this, as a Seahawk, this is definitely his most complete
30:58
game- Mm… easily, hands down.
31:00
now as a Bronco too, I don't know.
31:03
I, I can't say that I watched every single one and like remember
31:06
it, but like this has to be in one of his top five performances
31:09
in his career, if not top three.
31:11
And Brandan, you mentioned the reason why.
31:14
The idea that didn't turn the ball over, but not only that, but wasn't
31:18
anywhere near turning the ball over.
31:21
Responsible, smart, and he was still pushing it downfield and
31:23
taking, you know, some shots.
31:25
There was a one to JSN on an inbreaker, you know, about middle of the field.
31:29
There was a tight window.
31:30
the touchdown to JSN was…
31:33
That was, that was a work of art, Mm-hmm… fitting that ball in there.
31:37
Drew Lock, massive game and 2-0 as the Seahawks starter.
31:43
Carly made the joke at, during the live like, "Sam better hurry back."
31:46
Yeah.
31:47
Brandan: True.
31:48
Yeah.
31:49
I, I think I had a text from my brother that, he said
31:51
"Do we need Darnold back?"
31:53
Clinton: Drew, Drew looked…
31:54
He look, he, he looks the part.
31:56
it's why you pay a good quarter, good backup
31:59
quarterback, good backup money.
32:01
And you, you all said it already, and, and Phil had it in the comments too.
32:05
It wasn't close to being sloppy.
32:07
In fact, it was the exact opposite.
32:09
You know, he, he had a couple of…
32:10
You, you alluded to it, Adam, and called out one of them.
32:13
He had a couple of honey hole shots that were like, you need all of it.
32:16
You need arm talent, you need anticipation, and you need a location.
32:21
I mean, you need all three of them.
32:23
Otherwise, it's tipped, it's behind the guy, it's interception that
32:26
sails a guy, it's out of bounds.
32:28
He had a couple times too, we highlighted him last week on three and three out, one
32:32
of, one of the ends was he was getting some pressure in his face right away
32:36
from Gonzo and another, another kind of free runner for the Patriots, and
32:39
he slings it like Bernie Kosar style, 15 yard out on a frigging rope to JSN.
32:45
He had another one of those today, man, where he's going from the
32:48
right hash back- Yeah… over to the left hash or left sideline.
32:53
And it's just, he's on time.
32:56
He's o- he's, he's anticipating i- in a really, really strong way.
33:00
And I think that's the most, for me, the most satisfying part is
33:04
like we know the arm talent's there.
33:06
But if he could be anticipatory and have a such a level of trust that, especially
33:12
JSN, JSN's gonna be where he's gonna be.
33:15
Man, they got a, they got a cool connection going, guys.
33:18
Brandan: Got Nate Schutz in chat saying, "Drew, our new starter?"
33:22
With the little winky emoji.
33:23
Winky.
33:23
This is the point that I, before we get too carried away- For sure
33:27
with Drew, I, I think Phil has some, a, a smart comment here saying
33:31
"Need to see Drew against a real pass rush before you crown him.
33:34
be careful not to start a quarterback controversy."
33:37
Oh, phew.
33:37
A top quarterback wins- That's not what we're doing.
33:40
Come on, Phil… against a real pass rush.
33:40
No, I, we can be excited about Drew, happy about Drew, recognize
33:43
the great game that we had.
33:45
But yeah, before I, I think th- this is more of a caution to
33:49
all Seahawks fans who are just, you know, excited and emotional
33:53
and happy about the win for Drew.
33:55
Let's, let's not, you know, get behind the idea of Drew Lock as future starting
34:00
quarterback of our next Super Bowl, winning team, before we see him do it
34:05
against a real pass rush, like Phil said.
34:07
Clinton: Yeah.
34:07
That's fair.
34:08
It, it- And Sam will be back.
34:09
Sam will, Sam's butt's feeling better, so that's good.
34:11
Adam: Yeah, and it, you know, you mention a real pass rush, and it's like
34:15
well, okay, you know, maybe the Cards have the most dynamic pass rush in the world.
34:19
But let's not take away the performance of the offensive line here.
34:23
Yes.
34:24
Clinton: Great
34:24
Adam: point.
34:24
They had an excellent day.
34:25
That's one of the reasons why Drew was able to have an excellent day.
34:29
He was able to consistently get to two to three in his progressions.
34:32
And you know, the little bit of pressure that he did give, or they
34:35
did give up, he was able to kind of maneuver through and usually find
34:38
a good spot to put the football.
34:40
They only gave up one sack all day.
34:42
And the other aspect of the offensive line is usually pre-snap penalties
34:47
are an offensive line thing.
34:49
And one of the big things in week one was all that pre-snap stuff that
34:52
you know, backup quarterback coming in unexpectedly, haven't
34:55
heard your cadence, you know, all that stuff, first time play caller.
34:58
And I thought it was really impressive the way that Fleury got that
35:01
cleaned up with the offensive line.
35:04
They had a fantastic game as a whole, and kudos to them.
35:08
Brandan: The other interesting thing about the offensive line, guys, was
35:11
the, the rotation between Christian- Mm… Haynes and Bo Stevens.
35:14
The, there were times throughout the game where they were, it wasn't
35:18
like Stevens w- It, it was like they were trading off some drives, or
35:21
you'd see one for a couple drives.
35:23
Mm.
35:23
and it'll be…
35:25
It was hard to follow d- just in the, the, the flow of the game
35:29
because you're, you're trying to watch the entire game, so.
35:32
but it'd be interesting to see how it ends up, the, the snaps
35:37
ended up shaking out between those two guys at that right guard spot
35:41
Clinton: And I think they both did well.
35:44
The, the beginning, the very- Well, one
35:45
Brandan: sack.
35:46
Clinton: The, the beginning of the game was a little
35:48
choppy, and then it was good.
35:50
And it just like
35:50
Brandan: got- There, there were some whiffs in there too- Sure… where
35:52
I, I think with both of them, where Drew ended up being under
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pressure because of, you know…
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and some of them- Yes
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might have been blitz and missed assignments, but- For sure.
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And I'm not-… it wasn't, it wasn't a disaster.
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Clinton: Wait, that, that's, that's exactly where I wanted to take it
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was like, okay, y- we win the game going away, and we didn't, we didn't
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suffer, because one of those two guys were playing right guard.
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It wasn't like…
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Now, the run game was a little inconsistent the first half for sure
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but then that also got going too, which was, which was really nice to see.
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So we c- how about this?
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We closed out as confidently as I think we can with, with backup right guards.
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Brandan: Miss Hangover.
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Our depth is looking real good this year, offensive and defensive.
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As I said earlier, I'm happy Drew is holding the fort down, but we'll
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feel more comfortable with the season once Darnold is back and healthy.
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But yeah, let's talk about the depth a little bit because
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on the defensive side too, we, we did see some more…
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Oh, at safety.
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who am I- Rodney, Rodney Thomas.
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Rodney Thomas.
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We, we saw some good from Rodney Thomas- He did have that pick, yeah… and we
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saw a little, a little, got there a little early, that, ended up
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extending a drive for the Cardinals.
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But, I, I suppose you're gonna see that even-
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Clinton: Yeah, that, that I don't mind… with, with veteran guys.
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I, I don't mind him getting there a little early.
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It's a, it's to me just as…
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It's w- to me it's better than being late.
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It's like you were right there.
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Timing, timing-wise is a little bit off, but hey, they, it, that's okay.
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You're, you're in position and you're being aggressive.
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I'm fine with that.
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I would like him to…
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I would love him to catch that interception though, guys.
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Like that, that one hit him right in the freaking chest.
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Oh, yeah.
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I know he's sliding, I know it's an oblong ball.
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but again, we talked about it live, you know, I know that Yale Bulldog Adam
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is gonna be doing some trigonometry back in his dorm room being like, "I should
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have caught that freaking interception."
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Adam: Absolutely.
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He'll be like, "Oh, the, the velocity with the angle."
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Yeah, like all of that.
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That's what Rodney Thomas does back in his hotel room when he's on the road.
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Correct, 'cause he
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Clinton: went to Yale and everybody from Yale, that's how they act.
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Adam: That's all they do is trig.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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No, I, I don't mind Rodney Thomas getting there a
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little early on the one play.
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Look, I'd rather Rodney Thomas play too fast than not too fast
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and look, that, that works for me.
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yeah, thought he had a nice game.
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A- another defensive player that we didn't talk about, 'cause there was a play, Mr.
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Drake Thomas, Clinton.
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Oh.
38:08
I know you wanted to talk about- Mm… his
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Clinton: TFL.
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Great pull.
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Great pull.
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Just w- Drake's ability to sniff out and then he, on the run blitz and really fire
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and just get TFLs, it's, it's very strong.
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So I'm not gonna…
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I won't even say too much more about it 'cause we weren't live with Brandan, but
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you and I talked about it a lot, Adam.
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He does this all the time is my, my point.
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This is not like, oh, what is…
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Mike call it besides being sudden?
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Like if there's a word for these type of plays.
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He said Nwosu last week was the most yada, yada, yada.
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Not sudden, but there's a word.
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Shocking?
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Shocking.
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There was?
38:41
Shocking.
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Shocking.
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Okay.
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Yeah.
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That's ex- That's a good pull.
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And Thomas, to me, Brandan, he has these shocking great run D
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antici- anticipations all the time.
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And I'm not even sure it's like, oh, that's a run blitz.
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I don't think it is.
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I just think he's really good at sensing run, firing before a guard
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can move, and being a sound tackler.
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Brandan: Yeah.
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great to see him out there.
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He had seven total tackles.
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you know, the one tackle for a loss.
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Leonard Williams led the team with two TFLs.
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Jarran Reed had a TFL.
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Devon Witherspoon had one as well.
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coming up next, guys, it is the Washington Commanders.
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Ooh.
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And we had the Snail-… pointing out the fact Jayden Daniels out next week.
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Adam: Ugh.
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Brandan: Yeah, that, that sucks.
39:28
It, it's a brutal injury, too.
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Ugh.
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Oh, yeah.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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I know he dislocated
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Clinton: it, but
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Brandan: gross.
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It was, it was another one of the…
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Remember when we played him- Man… and his elbow- The direct elbow hit
39:36
… like, bent the wrong direction?
39:38
He, that happened again.
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Ugh
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Clinton: gross.
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sucks.
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Brandan: Got Tom Brady to drop an S-bomb on live TV- Ugh… after
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he, saw the replay.
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Clinton: Yikes.
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That's absolutely terrible for a young, a young quarterback.
39:51
s- just taking it back to the Seahawks, we want him to he- we want him
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to heal and get as good as he can get.
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We're gonna be looking at Mariota, guys.
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That's their backup.
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I was gonna
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Adam: say, who's the backup
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Clinton: there?
40:01
It's, it's still- Is it still Mariota?
40:02
Yeah, Mariota.
40:03
Yeah.
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And look, we know what we do to these, to these barely startable quarterbacks.
40:10
We saw it today, and I, I'm not, I'm not convinced the, the Commanders
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have much else in roster that's gonna be, scary for our Seahawks.
40:20
Brandan: Yeah.
40:20
Well, Charlie the Unicorn also saying the Commanders lost two starting
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offensive linemen today, too.
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Clinton: Oh, God.
40:25
Two, ugh.
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Adam: Yeah
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and
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Brandan: they were already- So Mariota, watch out.
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Clinton: Oh
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Adam: gosh.
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Yeah, they were already missing Tunzel, too, who tore his pec in the off season.
40:32
Yeah.
40:32
And so that offensive line was already a major issue for them.
40:37
Now they get to go up against Leo, and Byron, and Reed, and Riley.
40:42
Like
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Clinton: not- This is gonna be a ni- nine or 10…
40:45
This, on the road, this is probably gonna be a nine or 10-point spread.
40:48
Like, that's how- Yeah… that's how egregious that they're
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Brandan: gonna look.
40:50
With Drew Lock a- as our, you know- Potential starter… potentially
40:54
starting another game, too.
40:55
Well, yeah.
40:55
And then you have the Chargers looking for it.
40:57
I don't know if you guys saw that Caleb Williams went out
40:59
toward the end of the game, too.
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Adam: Yeah.
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Brandan: looked like an injury.
41:03
So as- Some of the tougher games that we saw on the schedule earlier this
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year may, they're going to be without their starting quarterbacks now.
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Adam: Yeah, and that's such a bummer, man.
41:14
You always wanna face these guys when they're at full strength so that
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you know, there's no excuses going forward when you take the belt to ass.
41:20
But, I, I think one of the things that this discussion really
41:24
does kinda help crystallize is we're talking about Mariota coming in for
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the Commanders, or Bagent for the- Mm-hmm… Bears, right?
41:33
Clinton: And- Who can play a bit.
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Adam: Yeah, he can play, but look at that d- the difference, the
41:37
delta between those guys as your backup and how screwed your season is
41:42
and the play that we're getting out of Drew Lock these first two games.
41:45
Like, that goes to show just how valuable it is to have a guy like
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that, and just how he really is…
41:52
If he's not the number one backup in the league, then he's number two.
41:57
Like, I, I don't even know who number one would be, and what a blessing
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that is to have as a team as this game is really a war of attrition.
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Brandan: And- I think Drew…
42:05
Clinton: No, go ahead.
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Brandan: I, I mean, credit to John Schneider because it's, it, it's
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not like Drew Lock is on this team for an exorbitant salary either.
42:14
He's making, like, 2.5
42:16
mil- he did, he signed a two-year, $5 million deal.
42:19
Yeah.
42:19
And so it's like- Oh, I thought
42:20
Clinton: he was making 5 million a year.
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Brandan: No, no.
42:22
Five to- five guaranteed was his deal.
42:24
I think he can make up to seven with incentives.
42:27
Clinton: He deser- he deserves more money, because he is a
42:30
he's a very, very good backup.
42:32
I mean, we saw it, and we see it again.
42:34
He's actually, that dude's starter level on, I think on
42:36
on several NFL teams right now.
42:39
He just is.
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Adam: Yeah.
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Clinton: We saw consistency.
42:41
He's
42:41
Adam: showing out that way.
42:42
Clinton: No, he, he just is.
42:43
And like, and, you know, consistency over time, we'll see
42:46
but he's playing pretty good ball.
42:48
I do wanna say this real quick, I know we're gonna wrap soon, but I
42:51
see Nemhauser out on Twitter with the Macdonald quote, that he
42:54
was getting from the presser saying that Sam Darnold's injury has changed
42:58
dramatically to the improvement side.
43:01
We heard that pregame, but just how dramatically.
43:04
Saying he's got…
43:04
We have three more days to evaluate it, even before practice.
43:07
Hmm.
43:08
So sounds like Sam will be practicing next week, and if it's just the butt muscle
43:12
and he can deal with it, A-okay.
43:15
All that being said, if you're going against Mariota, and our team verse their
43:19
team, and it's Drew Lock playing this good, is there any harm in, in maybe
43:26
giving Sam, you know, one more week to, to heal the butt there, Brandan?
43:30
Brandan: He, he watched Drew Lock ball out today, and he's like- I was
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Adam: gonna
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Brandan: say.
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" Adam: Oh
43:34
Clinton: yeah
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Brandan: yeah, yeah."
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"My butt-"
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" Adam: Heal my butt."
43:35
"… Brandan: my butt's feeling a lot better."
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Clinton: I can't believe it.
43:38
My butt feels great.
43:39
You know, I feel like- Yeah
43:40
Adam: three touchdowns heals a glute so fast.
43:42
It's unbelievable.
43:43
Yeah.
43:45
Brandan: Well, we'll look forward to that.
43:46
We'll look forward to hopefully some, news about Jadarian's
43:50
Price, Jadarian Price's injury.
43:52
I haven't…
43:52
I've been trying to follow as we, chat here, 'cause I know
43:56
Miss Hangover was asking about, if there was any update on that.
44:00
I haven't seen any news on that, so that's something that we'll be look-
44:03
The way Mike Macdonald does this with the injury stuff too, he'd probably be
44:07
like, "Well, you know, he's got a chest.
44:08
He took off his pads, and, you know, we're…
44:11
That's…
44:12
And, and he didn't make it back into the game."
44:14
Like, just listing all the facts.
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Yes.
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Clinton: Exactly.
44:18
Adam: I think Mike has found the ultimate injury loophole, too, in terms
44:21
of, not giving it up to the press.
44:24
You know, just, "Yeah, I, I don't know.
44:26
I'm out of my depth.
44:28
I'm not a doctor."
44:28
Like, "I don't know.
44:28
Like, a body hurt bad."
44:30
He's…
44:30
Dude-
44:30
Brandan: Yeah, well, that was the…
44:31
Is, isn't the, the glute, isn't it a m- is it a muscle?
44:35
And somebody saying, "Well, I th- I heard it was a tendon."
44:37
He's like, "Yeah.
44:38
Out of my depth."
44:39
Yeah.
44:39
Adam: Yeah.
44:39
And then he just smiles- Out of my depth… like the cat ate the canary too.
44:42
Like, I just- Yeah.
44:43
Yeah.
44:44
I, I like that he's having fun with it.
44:45
Brandan: Yeah.
44:46
Charlie the Unicorn saying right pec injury.
44:49
So- Yeah… hopefully, hopefully Price, gonna be
44:52
good to go here relatively soon.
44:54
But yeah, nice to see that, running back Emanuel Wilson was ready to
44:58
come in and give him a spell, and put this game away as our Seahawks get
45:03
the win, 31 to 7 over those Arizona Cardinals, and we continue to roll
45:10
on this winning streak, gentlemen.
45:12
Adam: Absolutely, man.
45:13
And I think with that- There's only one thing left to say.
45:16
Brandan: Go Hawks.
45:17
Adam: Go Hawks.
45:18
Go Hawks.