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Mac & Bone Show - Adam Gold Interview · Mac & Bone Podcast

• 0:09
  Speaker 1: Welcome back, MC and Bone Show.
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  Speaker 2: next segment.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now we go to the guest line.
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  Speaker 2: Bring in our Weekly eight twenty five one of our
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  Speaker 2: favorites from ninety nine point nine to the fan in Raleigh.
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  Speaker 2: Adam Gold joins the Mack and Bum Mac and Bone program. Adam,
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  Speaker 2: what's up, man?
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: How are you? What's going on?
• 1:03
  Speaker 1: What's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm in a different chair today, so I have to
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  Speaker 2: be more professional and I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't wone you.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you try that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to joker have fun in this chair.
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  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be a serious. I'm like, uh, who
• 1:16
  Speaker 2: is your uh your guy there? Tom Sneider? Was that
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  Speaker 2: a guy?
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  Speaker 3: Tom Snyder was a guy? Yeah? Uh, it sounds like
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  Speaker 3: it's like a hostage situation a newspaper.
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  Speaker 2: Well, last night, and what the US was in their
• 1:32
  Speaker 2: own situation last night the loss of Belgium? What what
• 1:36
  Speaker 2: element of the loss? Because losing is one thing, but
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: the way they lost is another. What what surprised you
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  Speaker 2: the most in what transpired last night in Seattle?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look, uh, it's it's pretty obvious that they didn't
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  Speaker 3: meet the moment, that that moment was way too big
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  Speaker 3: for them because some of the mistakes they made are
• 1:58
  Speaker 3: absolutely basic. First goal should have never even should have
• 2:01
  Speaker 3: never even been as possession should have ended. Yeah, after
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  Speaker 3: the Freeman header, it wasn't. It wasn't a great defensive header,
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  Speaker 3: but Sergenio Desks and to a lesser extent, Weston McKinney
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  Speaker 3: both could have like attacked the ball and cleared it
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  Speaker 3: out of the area, but neither did. Serginio Desk let
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  Speaker 3: the ball bounce and then looked around. I'm like, dude,
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  Speaker 3: this challenge soccer? Is this the highest level you've ever
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  Speaker 3: played at? And like they so they lost that moment there,
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  Speaker 3: Tim Reim was at a position and it was an
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  Speaker 3: easy tap in goal past Matt Freeze. The second goal,
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  Speaker 3: Leandros Troussard, who is not known as a speed merchant,
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  Speaker 3: was able to beat two guys to the bylon byline
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  Speaker 3: and cross it. And then Tim Reim got big boyd
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  Speaker 3: by the same guy who scored the first goal, went
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  Speaker 3: right over top of him. I mean, you just have
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  Speaker 3: to be stronger there. And then the third goal, of course,
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  Speaker 3: was a calamity, a calamity of an inexperienced goalkeeping by
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  Speaker 3: Matt Freeze. Other than that, how was the play? Missus Lincoln?
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  Speaker 3: Kristen Polisic wasn't very good? Sergenio Desk had to be
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  Speaker 3: taken off for various reasons at the half. I didn't
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  Speaker 3: think it was a great night for Weston McKinney or
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Adams. And I thought the United States deficiencies showed throughout.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, people are saying Floe Balligan wasn't very good.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how could he be. He's nobody. Nobody could
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  Speaker 3: get in the ball really in great position. It was
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  Speaker 3: a terrible night all across for the US.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, nobody, honestly, nobody was very good. On the
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  Speaker 2: ESPN rankings. They the highest player they ranked was Tilman
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  Speaker 2: at a five out of ten because of the uh
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  Speaker 2: the goal that he had. But I mean nobody Matt
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  Speaker 2: Freeze was awful. Not only the misplay was sort of
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  Speaker 2: like the the of it, but he wasn't good on
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  Speaker 2: the previous goals either, like he had himself a bad night.
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  Speaker 3: I actually didn't. I didn't hate I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think he's at fault for the first two goals. He
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  Speaker 3: makes the great save in the first minute where he
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  Speaker 3: goes left hand upper ninety were on the right side
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  Speaker 3: of a goal, I mean, to save a goal, and
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was a great sign for him. I
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  Speaker 3: don't really think either of the two goals are on him.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he is frozen, but he's not making the
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  Speaker 3: save on either of those, so I don't blame him
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  Speaker 3: for those. But I mean, here's I think Mauricio Pochettino
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  Speaker 3: did a pretty good job with this team, or a
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  Speaker 3: great job with his team. But I'll go back to
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  Speaker 3: one area where he definitely made a mistake. I don't
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  Speaker 3: really care that you rotated basically your entire team against
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  Speaker 3: Turkey A in the final game. Of the group stage.
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  Speaker 3: But Matt Freeze can't be treated like he's in experience
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  Speaker 3: goalkeeper that you needed to give the night off and
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  Speaker 3: let Matt Turner play. We know what Matt Turner is.
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  Speaker 3: If Matt Turner's in the in the game, it's over. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: Matt Turner is no good anymore. But Matt Freeze to
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  Speaker 3: that point had fewer like competitive caps for the US
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  Speaker 3: than he had friendlies, and that that had to be
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  Speaker 3: rectified against a team like Turkey, A who, even if
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  Speaker 3: they didn't play their best eleven and they didn't, was
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  Speaker 3: still in quality a Round of thirty two caliber team,
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  Speaker 3: maybe even a Round him sixteen caliber team, considering two
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  Speaker 3: of the players they put on the field in Yields
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  Speaker 3: and Gooler, who are world class players. And they didn't
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  Speaker 3: even like, let Freeze go out there and maybe try
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  Speaker 3: to win a game, maybe be the difference in a
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  Speaker 3: win and a loss, or a draw and a drawn
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  Speaker 3: a loss, or even winn a d He didn't do that,
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  Speaker 3: and I thought that was a mistake. And the first
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  Speaker 3: time the brough the lights were really bright. He wasn't
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  Speaker 3: ready for it. The United States used to be a
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  Speaker 3: goalkeeping nation. It's the one thing we would produce, and
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  Speaker 3: we haven't produced a world class goalkeeper probably in ten years.
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  Speaker 2: One of our Texters says they should have put Brandon
• 6:20
  Speaker 2: Bussey in last night. I think we're getting our great
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: we're getting our situations confused here.
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  Speaker 1: Without him Gold.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, he would have been great.
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  Speaker 2: Christian Polistic is getting just ripped to shreds both in performance.
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  Speaker 2: He lost the ball per ESPN stats, eleven to time
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  Speaker 2: eleven possessions he lost in forty five minutes. Currently, Woyd
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  Speaker 2: tore him up after the game on the set there.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to Polistic? And how justified is it's ripping
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  Speaker 2: this morning?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how. I mean he was bad.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what happened to him. I
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  Speaker 3: know he had He left the first match against Paraguay
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  Speaker 3: at halftime with an injury. He didn't play again until
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  Speaker 3: the last thirty five minutes against Turkey A. But when
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  Speaker 3: he came on against Turkia, he was fantastic. He looked
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  Speaker 3: like the Christian Polisic that would be a factor in
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  Speaker 3: a positive way going forward. I don't know if it
• 7:16
  Speaker 3: was the moment, I don't know if it was the
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  Speaker 3: opponents I do know Belgium set up to defend that
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: they had defensive players in offensive positions. Juri ti LeMans
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  Speaker 3: is more of a defensive central midfielder, defensive midfielder. He
• 7:33
  Speaker 3: was playing as an attacking midfielder. So they were set
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  Speaker 3: up to defend Andre o'nanna, who unfortunately left the match
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  Speaker 3: early with an injury. He's a defensive midfielder and he
• 7:43
  Speaker 3: was playing as more of a deep lying you know.
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  Speaker 3: So they were set up to defend, and they were
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  Speaker 3: set up to stop Polisic in Balligan and Robinson and
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  Speaker 3: dest and they did that effectively. And Polific just not
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  Speaker 3: could not handle well. I think he tried to go
• 8:01
  Speaker 3: a little too one on one. I don't think the
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  Speaker 3: US was showed particularly good movement away from the ball,
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  Speaker 3: but I thought he was bad. Tilman was okay, Death
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  Speaker 3: was terrible. But again, their best players weren't good enough.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the underlying thing for me is that
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  Speaker 3: the United States just doesn't have enough high quality players
• 8:25
  Speaker 3: to get past this round of the World Cup. Our
• 8:27
  Speaker 3: ceiling is round to sixteen until there are better players
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  Speaker 3: in the US system.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to ask you about, is
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  Speaker 2: the ceiling and can they ever get past this area?
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  Speaker 2: I know they did in two thousand and two in
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  Speaker 2: a different format of teams, but yeah, do you do
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  Speaker 2: you think they can.
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  Speaker 1: Ever get past this?
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  Speaker 2: Or is this just are we kind of a mid
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  Speaker 2: major where we're never really going to advance to the
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  Speaker 2: to go take on the blue bloods at the end?
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  Speaker 3: I mean they could have, they probably should have been
• 9:00
  Speaker 3: matched up against Senegal yet last night, so Senegal boss
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  Speaker 3: Belgium for eighty minutes and then all of a sudden
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  Speaker 3: just completely caved, which I mean fair play to Belgium.
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  Speaker 3: They do have some, I mean legitimately world class players.
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  Speaker 3: Of course they didn't start two of them, which is
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  Speaker 3: hysterical to me that Jeremy Doku and Kevin de Bruyne
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  Speaker 3: were not part of the of the starting eleven. It
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  Speaker 3: was that just showed you Rudy Garcia did a masterful
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  Speaker 3: job setting his team up to deal with the United States,
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  Speaker 3: but we just don't have the quality And are we
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  Speaker 3: a mid major? I mean, yeah, that's probably a fair
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  Speaker 3: assessment right now until we get and four years from now,
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  Speaker 3: Like some of the players I just mentioned, they're all
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  Speaker 3: going to be in their thirties. Adams is going to
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  Speaker 3: be in his thirties. Mckenny's going to in his thirties.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Tim Reim is going to be in his forties.
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  Speaker 3: Tim Reim was a tough night last night. Good Chris
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  Speaker 3: Richards our best central defender. I mean, if we ranked
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  Speaker 3: the best Premier League defenders, I don't know that he's
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: in the top fifteen in that league. So I mean
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  Speaker 3: he's good, but he should be part of your center
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  Speaker 3: back tandem. He shouldn't be. We cannot live without Chris Richards.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we're not talking about prime Virgil van Dyke here.
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  Speaker 3: So it's the US needs to continue and this is
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  Speaker 3: they're on the path. They need to continue developing players.
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  Speaker 3: And I think, while this is going to sound like
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  Speaker 3: a knock at Major League Soccer or but it's not.
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  Speaker 3: Really look at where the best American players play, and
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  Speaker 3: there are very you who play in the best leagues
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  Speaker 3: for top clubs and do well.
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  Speaker 2: Very few Virgil van Dyke that is not a relative
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  Speaker 2: of the great Dick van Dyke.
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  Speaker 1: Right, just to clarify, uh.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, I don't know that he isn't. So
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  Speaker 3: let's just go with it, all right.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll look that up here during the during
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  Speaker 2: the breaker talking to Adam Gold ninety nine point nine
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  Speaker 2: the fan and Raleigh talking the US performance last night.
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  Speaker 2: Can't can't let this conversation go by till the next
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  Speaker 2: stuff year without asking at least their opinion on the
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  Speaker 2: flow Balligan situation and all that went down there and
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  Speaker 2: how that transpired.
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  Speaker 1: Not good.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, It's it's clear what happened, right. It was a
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  Speaker 3: terrible red card. The process was bad. Uh, so he
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  Speaker 3: shouldn't have been sent off. FIFA could have said that
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  Speaker 3: in their ruling when FIFA released their statement when they
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  Speaker 3: basically suspended Baligan's red card, they didn't take it away.
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  Speaker 3: It's just been suspended the punishment of a match ban,
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  Speaker 3: which is standard for a straight red card in a match,
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  Speaker 3: standard which a lot of people for some reason don't know,
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  Speaker 3: which is fine. It's not their sport. Necessarily, it was
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  Speaker 3: suspended and there's no mechanism for an appeal, so it's
• 12:26
  Speaker 3: not an appeal situation. It's FIFA deciding for whatever reason
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  Speaker 3: that they were just going to let Baligan play. Now,
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  Speaker 3: if they had said we didn't like the process, you're
• 12:42
  Speaker 3: not supposed to use just slow motion and still photography.
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  Speaker 3: Which is apparently what they did. If that was a situation,
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  Speaker 3: FIFA could have said that they have been offered multiple
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  Speaker 3: opportunities to blame the process or say we felt it
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  Speaker 3: was incorrect decision for the red card and they could
• 13:02
  Speaker 3: have rescinded the red card in the tournament. People could
• 13:05
  Speaker 3: do whatever the hell they want. But they never said that.
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  Speaker 3: They just said we're suspending the red card, which is
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: basically a parent saying don't you do that again, young man.
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  Speaker 3: And like there's people can talk about president all they want.
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  Speaker 3: While they did it with Ronaldo. While it's the same organization,
• 13:26
  Speaker 3: it's not the same tournament. The World Cup is different
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: than qualification and it all depends on like do you
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  Speaker 3: believe in Like if you're a parent, do you tell
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  Speaker 3: you do you teach your kids right and wrong? I
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: think we all do right. If you have kids, you
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: teach your kids right and wrong. Right, Sometimes you have
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  Speaker 3: to teach your kids. You're gonna have to overcome some
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: adversity the United States for political reasons and pressure, we're
• 13:58
  Speaker 3: told you don't have to overcome advert I don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: They wouldn't have had a better chance to be Belgium
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  Speaker 3: without flow Balligan, they would not have.
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  Speaker 2: I think it actually hurt them last night because I
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  Speaker 2: think the whole situation, Belgium came out like a house
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  Speaker 2: of fire. I think they were, they were angry and annoyed,
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  Speaker 2: and I think it actually, I actually think it kind
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  Speaker 2: of woke Belgium up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: This whole thing.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing, we really don't know. There's no way
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  Speaker 3: to apply any proof to anything. So I'll never say
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: that it's like bulletin board material. I don't believe in it,
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  Speaker 3: But if teams do, then maybe it does work. Right,
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  Speaker 3: if anything that you can use to motivate yourself a
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: little bit more, sharpen your focus a little bit more.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know. I mean, I think you can
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  Speaker 3: make an argument that it hurt the US right, that
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  Speaker 3: they maybe took the field with a little bit less
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  Speaker 3: respect for Belgium, feeling themselves, Hey, we've got our guy.
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  Speaker 3: Everything's gonna be fine. None of this to me matters,
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: but it might, And I just have to allow for that,
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: because it's the intangibles and the human side of sports
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  Speaker 3: that sometimes are inexplainable. But the process was horrific. It shows,
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  Speaker 3: it shows very poorly on FIFA. It shows very poorly
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  Speaker 3: on the US and the people arguing that this was just.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's just not true. It was not just.
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  Speaker 3: Even though the red card was a terrible decision and
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  Speaker 3: the process was faulty, the process to get it back
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  Speaker 3: to like, the two wrongs don't make a right theory. Right,
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  Speaker 3: FIFA was wrong and the whole thing was wrong, but
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: that doesn't make it a right. I think the US
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: should have dealt with their punishment, even though the punishment
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: was way too harsh for me and incorrect. They just
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  Speaker 3: think that that's the situation and sometimes you just got
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  Speaker 3: to deal with it. But I mean, I was glad
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: that he played because I think the more good players
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  Speaker 3: you have, the better chances that you have of winning.
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  Speaker 3: But ultimately, the United States doesn't have enough good players.
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  Speaker 2: Adam the leg At the end of the tunnels here
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  Speaker 2: the I mean not that we don't like talking Canes,
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  Speaker 2: but the Canes win the Cup, then we move on
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  Speaker 2: talking to you about the World Cup. Guess what's next though,
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  Speaker 2: coming up? A full summer and fall of ACC football talk. Buddy,
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  Speaker 2: we got that coming up.
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  Speaker 3: What let's just talk about the games we.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Got ACC football, man, We just hit a topic on
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: what fan base is in the Carolinas our most fired
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  Speaker 2: up and we got like three responses.
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  Speaker 1: So we're still working through some things here.
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  Speaker 3: Who is fired up?
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  Speaker 1: ECU fans?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, although they got Bama week one, but that's a
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  Speaker 2: good opportunity for that ECU fans.
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  Speaker 3: And I'd say, wait, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait,
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  Speaker 3: ECU has Bama in week one. Did you just say
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  Speaker 3: that's a good opportunity for them?
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  Speaker 2: Well, no, I just mean they're on the national stage.
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  Speaker 2: Bama's not what they were. They could they can at
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  Speaker 2: least compete I think in that game a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I hope.
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  Speaker 2: So all right, let's saved these. We got all summer
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: for these discussions. Man, let's save these.
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  Speaker 3: I hope they're not USA to Bama's Belgium.
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  Speaker 2: Let's hope not. That's Adam Gold, thanks man for joining
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  Speaker 2: talty next Tuesday.
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: You got it, man, Nice job.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: All right, No, no, you did a nice job.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm just here making stuff up, all right, man,
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Appreciate you.
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  Speaker 1: There you go. Adam Gold ninety nine point nine to
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  Speaker 1: fit in Raleigh,