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#114 - Leigh Roto of Team Proceed · After-Hours with Faction! Motorsports

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  What's going on guys? Welcome back to another episode
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  of the After Hours podcast. We are recording this live from
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  the van right now on the way to Final Bout 7.
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  We have recorded a bunch of podcasts, but we decided the
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  most relevant one to release this week is the one with Lee
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  Roto of Team Proceed. We talked about Final Bout a lot
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  in this episode and yeah, it's just super relevant.
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  We talked about the teams and who we think could possibly be
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  the top three and stuff like that.
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  This was one of my favorite conversations that we have done
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  so far, so I hope you guys enjoy it.
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  Well, welcome everybody to another episode of Faction After
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  hours. Quick little scenery change,
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  crazy movie magic. Thank you.
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  We have a we have a guest. Thank you to our guest Lee for
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  having us at your beautiful garage and home.
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  Thank you so much. Yeah.
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  Oh, I actually did figure this out.
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  Hold up. Yeah, wow.
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  Yeah, thank you so much for having us.
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  I didn't get to really meet you the last time we were here.
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  Again, we showed up and immediately was a party, so I
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  was doing. Whatever that tonight too.
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  Yeah. Oh yeah.
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  But no, thank you very much for having me.
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  No, dude, thank you, man. You guys are very welcoming.
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  Every time. Every time I annoy you guys with
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  this, everyone's like, Oh yeah, that would be sick.
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  Cool. I'm like damn cool.
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  Yeah, you. Guys got something good going on
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  so. It's.
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  Kind of like cool to be a part of that and to be asked to be on
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  here is I don't know. I don't know what the word is,
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  you know, makes you feel good, whatever that's.
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  Cool man. Dude, no.
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  IA big thing of this podcast for me is meeting people.
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  Like we got to talk with Chubb earlier and I didn't know Chaab.
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  I actually thought Chaab was scary like at first.
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  And then now we're cracking jokes and stuff and I'm like,
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  yeah, this guy's kind of, he's my cousin for real.
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  He's got, once he gets to know him, he's, he's soft chaab.
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  But like, really? That he's hard Chaab.
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  With all of y'all, like we, we had a quick conversation about
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  things that we have in common and stuff like that.
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  And like, it's nice to see somebody who's kind of been in
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  this for a lot longer to still be doing this for as long as you
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  have been. Yeah, I always I always say like
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  you guys are like a generation of Drifters before me or above
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  me and then he's like 1 below me.
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  So it's like it's always like a good conversation with with like
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  you got like one person from proceed and us 'cause it's it's
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  a 3 levels and. I'm not even really that
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  different in age though, I just really didn't get into drift
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  like later on, or at least I tried to take it more seriously
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  later on. Like, I love driving.
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  So, and I don't really know much about you.
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  Yeah. How How long have you been
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  driving? Maybe like I would do the whole
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  one event a year thing for four years and then it ramped up,
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  'cause all my other friends ramped their shit up and then
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  now we're here When? Did when did you start drifting?
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  Like 2016 or 2015 maybe? So basically but.
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  But it was the four, it was the one event a year thing that made
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  it. It's hard to learn really
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  progressing with anybody or anything.
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  You just kind of were drifting, which I liked.
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  It's fun dude. What do you drive?
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  An IS with A1J now. Perfect yo I used to daily an IS
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  and that's kind of one reason I bought this was like I loved
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  driving the more modern Toyota and but I was like, but I want a
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  2 door. So what are my options and like?
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  Well, there we go. How do so you've had?
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  How long have you had this chassis?
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  Not maybe. Not even the specific.
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  Ones three years I think, no, this is my first CN 6 and really
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  so three years I think, yeah, 'cause then before that it was
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  the supra for 15 years. Yeah, that supra was around for
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  a while. And then I had the I actually
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  had a 180 that like nobody knows about for two years or so before
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  that. OK.
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  And that's actually like a stupid story where 'cause I had
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  AI had a 2 focuses before that I did like some auto cross.
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  This was like when I was 1718 was auto.
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  Cross your intro to auto like Motorsports I guess for sure.
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  Well. Actually, I guess technically it
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  was drag racing, but drag racing a 18 second focus.
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  What Gen. focuses were these? 3:00-ish.
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  Oh, it's the focus that I'm thinking of then.
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  Yeah. It was like, I think it that
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  would be first generation, yeah. It's the one that everyone had a
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  Hot Wheels of. There was so many Hot Wheels
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  Focuses. It was super big in WRC, so like
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  I really wanted to do rally, but drag was much more like easy to
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  get into. So I started there and then I
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  don't know it's it's honestly, it was a great car.
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  Like they drive super nice. I love the interior and I liked
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  it so much then trying to remember the order here but I'm
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  pretty sure my brother crashed the first one like right when he
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  got his license and then I really liked it so then we got
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  the SVT focus. That has a get track in it,
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  right? Oh.
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  That I don't. Know it's a it's it's a stronger
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  or it's a stronger trans Like I didn't know I was going to bring
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  up the SVT cause a buddy of mine had one from college and I was
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  like what the fuck did you buy that?
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  And now, hearing this from you, I guess there's a following for
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  him. There definitely was.
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  I don't know about anymore. I think that people would see
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  one and wouldn't even bat an eye at it.
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  Like they wouldn't even know. And I think all the like early
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  first second generation ones are all rusted out now, so.
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  Oh man. But I but yeah, so like I did
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  that with like all the bolt ONS like exhaust pulleys, blah blah,
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  blah. And then I wanted to get
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  something turbo. That was when SRS were getting
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  popular. Like I remember reading it in
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  sport compact car and I was like oh fuck I need one of those.
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  Man sport compact car Sport compact car magazine.
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  Dude, I have so many of them right above your head.
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  People. Probably people.
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  Probably don't know what that is.
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  Yeah, but that that doesn't. Snow.
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  That was one of the first I think of the magazines to go.
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  Yeah, that doesn't even sound familiar to me.
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  Sport Compact. Maybe if I saw it.
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  It was it was like Super Street was more show kind of stuff and
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  sport compact car was more Motorsports oriented.
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  It's funny, we were just talking about these with Damon, right?
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  Damon? And we were talking about what
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  is it, Modified Mag? And I was like Modified
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  Magazine, more like technical than Super Street.
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  And sport compact, I want to say it was like even more technical,
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  yeah. Yeah, we missed magazines.
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  I know. I want to make one 'cause I do
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  like riding. But you know, I said we say we
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  missed them but like they went out of business cause none of
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  us. Because none of us bought them.
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  Yeah, we talked about that too. We.
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  All took that. We all took that for granted.
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  I feel like, well, I feel like right now we're in such an,
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  we're in such a time of nostalgia.
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  I feel like just cause the stuff that's going on right now isn't
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  really what a lot of our tastes and I guess like interests are
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  like, I'm not really looking at new cars.
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  I don't remember the last time I took look at a new car unless it
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  was like EV. I'm looking at new cars right
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  now, looking at this thing, 'cause this thing's.
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  Yeah, I'm a little different than that.
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  Like I really like new stuff. Yeah, you, you didn't.
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  You did say that earlier. You like the modern type of D?
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  Car I do and I still super appreciate old stuff for sure,
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  but like it's just driving those things around.
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  I mean, like, shoot, we were just, we picked up all the
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  Japanese guys from the airport a couple days ago.
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  I saw. Them in our drawers.
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  Yeah, and it was 100° and like 50% humidity and I'm windows up
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  AC, like I'm totally fine. And we get to the hotel and Ilya
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  Simba, I'm missing somebody else gets out of their car and like
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  they are just like, it looks like it jumped in the pool.
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  And. I was like, I mean, of course
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  you can put AC in it, but it goes cruise control like less
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  noise. It just feels tighter.
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  I do like these cars a lot and what makes me like them even
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  more now is there are some similarities in terms of like
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  how I would if you had to do a coilover install, if you had to
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  do a DIF, if you had to do a subframe.
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  It's pretty similar to a lot of the other Toyota configurations
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  like in terms of how you would take it apart.
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  These things are like I, I, I think they put this car together
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  knowing that they were built for tuners.
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  So like there is so much space to work on everything.
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  Everything is like easy access to all the bolts or like the
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  clips or whatever. Like it's like a little tiny
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  Lego car dude. It's so nice they made a.
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  Good Toyota makes a good product, don't they?
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  I. Really it's it's Subaru.
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  It's mostly and and and that's like it's mostly Subaru.
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  Toyota did like the as far as I know, Toyota, it's Toyota
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  direct. No Toyota port injection.
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  Like they're not even the great thing about yeah.
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  And like I think they did the interior maybe?
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  Maybe. Like everything else is super.
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  Yeah, when I look at these cars and touch them and everything,
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  I'm like, this feels like a Subaru.
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  I I'm always like waiting to find the Toyota part and I'm
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  like, I really don't know, maybe the safety features or something
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  like. The best like when when I had
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  the supra. So this thing has the same DIF
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  as a 1988 supra and so and I I see this ring and pinion and
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  yeah, I guess used the same. So I found out this used the
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  same looked it up online like it was cheaper to get it from
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  Subaru than it was Toyota. So I bought it from the Subaru
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  dealership. I opened up the Subaru box.
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  There's a Toyota box inside of the Subaru box with the winning
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  pinions. That's great.
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  So the DIF is Toyota for sure, yeah.
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  Yeah. So you went from the 180 to the
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  mark three? What a fucking lady.
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  Dude, that Mark 3 was. Dude, I I have one of my
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  roommates in college and now his dad is a master tech at Toyota
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  to them. I showed them that car years
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  ago, years ago. And I'm not even gonna lie, I
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  low key forgot about the Super 'cause this is now the car that
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  I know you for. And I just remember him going.
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  Why would he do that? Like.
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  How is he doing that? I think.
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  Everyone was asking that that. Car.
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  The curb weight of that car is not that low.
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  It's definitely heavy but my pushback on that is like JZX
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  Aristo Soror Super eyes. Like the pinnacle of sports car.
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  It weighs MK4 and it weighs basically the same.
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  So like 3830? Yeah, 30 actually.
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  I think more like 35 actually. A Super Mark 4.
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  Weight. By the time bucket, bucket seats
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  and all that stuff come out, it does look like I.
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  Mean closer -100 lbs. Of course, like and then you put
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  a roller cage in it and blah blah blah.
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  But they're heavy ass cards. Yeah, they look big.
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  And they're they're, they're long.
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  They're long. Yeah.
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  For a 2 door. When I pulled this thing in the
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  first time, I was like, man, there's so much space for.
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  Activities Where? How how how how?
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  Where are you staying like? Well, mostly lengthwise.
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  I would have to constantly balance it.
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  Like if I'm working on the back of the car I'd have to move it
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  forward and if I'm working on the front of the car I gotta
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  move it all the way back. And feel like maybe you got it.
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  Now I can just kind of put it. Being in this garage right now
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  with this car in here is like, it's like a drug addict being in
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  here with heroin. Like I feel like I'm gonna buy
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  this fucking car. The more I look at it, this body
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  kit is like, awesome. It's yeah.
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  It turned out fucking great. It does look freaking.
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  Great, is this a Kazama hood on this thing too?
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  What is it Sabon? OK it looks it fits good too.
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  Like. I was really surprised when I
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  bought that, like knowing 'cause I think Sabon was back in sport
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  compact car days and like they were not good quality.
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  But I pulled this thing out and it's absolutely perfect.
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  Like fitment, fitment was essentially perfect.
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  The weaved, I didn't couldn't find any imperfections in it.
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  It's actually original like Sabon design.
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  So it's on a knock off which I appreciate so.
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  Wow, OK. I'm my a proud Sabon owner and
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  and. I and like OK not for nothing
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  but some of the dude the cheese grater 1.
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  I can't. He keeps talking about the
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  origin one with the crazy amount of vents.
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  I know you know what it looks. Like, Oh yeah, I know what it
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  looks like. Here it.
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  Looks like a cheese grater 'cause that was definitely one
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  of your options. It's.
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  Definitely, I would have rocked it, but they didn't have one
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  coming in on the container You. Like it?
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  I'm indifferent. I mean, to be honest, I don't
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  even know if I should be saying this, but like I was very on
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  edge. The one put this kit on there.
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  The first time I saw it, I laughed out loud.
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  I was like, what are they doing? But then that was like the very
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  like, I don't think they even think the car was painted.
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  It was super high in the air. And like then they came out with
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  like the demo car that was a little bit lower and like a
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  little bit better fitted and everything started slowly coming
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  around to it. And now, like, I absolutely love
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  it. To me that front bumper is like
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  it's perfect. It gives you the old style but
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  it it looks pretty good on this guy like.
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  They made the bell bottom work with the modern car.
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  I love that. That is what for me, because
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  then what that tells me is that, oh, there's gonna be underglow
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  on that and it's gonna have that floating thing.
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  Oh. Yeah.
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  You can't have underglow on a car that doesn't have that apron
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  'cause then it doesn't give you the floating illusion that I
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  like underglow for. Yeah.
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  So that. This right here would probably
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  look like it's flying like at that point, look at.
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  That to the audio listeners, but it is what it is.
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  Why if they can't see the car? Oh yeah?
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  Shit. Well.
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  But but dude, that. Maybe get a Spotify premium to
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  get that video but. That like.
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  Going back to the Super, just no one probably.
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  There were probably people who had no idea what that car was.
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  Yeah, I, well, I knew of it as a joke.
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  Like I, I remember 'cause I was 19 or so and I remember like
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  going to super meets and like the MK threes would like park in
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  the back where all, everybody's looking at the MK fours and
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  everything. And, and I was one that was like
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  how those cars are so stupid and ugly and everything.
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  And the weirdest thing is like I was looking for a new car
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  because I had crashed the 180 and I wanted to, I got, I parked
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  to the junkyard. I was looking for a new car and
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  I was looking on club Fr forums. We used to have a forum back in
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  the day. He put it up for sale in
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  Minnesota and like it looked completely different.
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  It was actually Gray, like the OEM Gray.
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  But as soon as I saw it, I was like, I need that car.
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  Like that's mine. And I, I don't know why or
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  anything. It was just kind of one of
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  those. Like to this thing?
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  Yeah. And so then I picked it up in 15
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  years. And then a decade and a half
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  later, I had it. That's.
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  It drove really, really well. Like, I mean, it definitely was
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  heavy, but like that's basically all that I knew and I didn't
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  realize how much of A detriment that was until I got this thing
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  and I was like, oh wow. Like you can actually slow down
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  and it turns when you turn the steering wheel and everything
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  the. Slow down thing is something
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  that is really. Noticable and for like the first
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  year I was like under shooting corners constantly thinking that
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  it was going to travel farther than.
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  It was, yeah, that. That would have me doing the
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  same thing, yeah, that is. I remember when Miyagi drove my
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  car on the track for the first time, he had an RX8.
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  We enter the first turn like crazy.
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  I'm like, oh, wow, this guy's OK, we're doing this.
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  And then we're going to the second turn at East Town and
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  he's flying and I'm like, yo-yo, yo-yo, yo, slow down.
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  And we just go right off. And he's like, yeah, I didn't
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  know it was going to be like that.
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  Not a weight thing, but a power thing.
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  Oh yeah. Oh, power, yeah, yeah, 'cause I
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  love the RXA chassis my brother used to have.
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  One. Did you drift one?
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  My brother had a drift car. He actually had a S13 first.
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  He's two years younger than me. He had a S13 coupe and then sold
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  that, got an RX8, put a Grady turbo kit on it and another
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  inspiration for this car because like I could not get that like
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  new car just like simple bolt on kind of thing out of my head
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  did. You like?
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  Did you drive the RX8 at all? Drifting or no?
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  I don't remember if I I definitely drove it on the
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  street a lot. OK.
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  I don't remember if I drifted it, but I can definitely say
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  like it drifted well. Yeah, it's weird we had such a
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  problem with Miyagi's car. That shit would never drift.
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  That was an alignment issue. We have.
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  No it's not. We had Stoneback Dr. at
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  everything. We aligned it 27 times.
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  I have a. Changed the DIF for some reason
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  every single time you went to transition it would just snap so
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  hard and. Ilya has a daily RX8.
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  I heard he likes. It and yeah, he loves that
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  thing, but I don't know how much drifting he's.
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  Done. Yeah, from a grip perspective.
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  From AI was going to say from a non drifting perspective that
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  car and Chad. I love the car.
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  Performer like auto cross when I was into auto cross for a little
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  bit all my instructor people there was this one guy in
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  particular in the northeast like SCCA group where he was like, Oh
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  yeah, I wish I four time champion and did this did that.
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  You know my RX8 stock, he would pax crazy and I just don't know
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  how or why at that time, but now realizing it, it's got all the
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  ingredients there. Definitely.
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  Yeah. Sports.
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  Like even that engine like it, it lacks torque, but it's got
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  tons of power. Hearing it Rev to 910 thousand
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  RPM is magical. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Nothing really competes with that, yeah.
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  Our buddy had one that was rebuilt by a shop called Goopy
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  by us and it had a semi Bridgeport like.
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  AI think that's a thing and it was.
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  Like it was just sitting in a driving.
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  Prep Prep Prep prep. And then they would go nowhere
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  when you're revving it, but it would Rev. Mad it would sound
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  very it would Rev so high. And then it would just come by,
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  it's like. I remember driving Miyagi's RX8
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  through the lower level of George Washington, OH.
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  Yeah, it was probably ringing. I was like, this is the best car
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  that was ever made. Like it it just just from that
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  moment and then afterwards, obviously like this is the worst
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  car. But like it's so crazy that you
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  go from such a high from hearing it to just like, I don't know.
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  What was the power plant in the supra?
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  What? Well, multiple.
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  I bought it with A1J, then I put another one J in it.
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  Wait, the one J was already in it?
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  Yeah. So it had it had one J like
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  really basic non adjustable Bilstein coilovers and like a
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  couple other wheels and a couple other small things that's.
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  Square from one non V in that one.
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  That's a 1J non V. Yeah, yeah, It had the original
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  1 J like stock turbo everything. Then I did the same thing.
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  There was like a semi built motor that I ran at stock power.
• 18:30
  Then I ran a 1.5 J, but that was like that was a scramble cause
• 18:36
  like I dude. So I had the original AFC with
• 18:41
  like spinning knobs on it for like each RPM point.
• 18:43
  Oh my God. And I was, we were at, I think
• 18:46
  it was grid life at Gingerman. It was running a little rich and
• 18:52
  so I spun the knob but I did the wrong RPM point so the next turn
• 18:57
  it blew up. Turn one of those knobs wrong,
• 19:01
  it's over. Imagine.
• 19:02
  You just turned one. It blows up.
• 19:05
  And what I'm. Doing with.
• 19:05
  With like gloves on in the middle of like driving.
• 19:08
  I was really afraid that you were good.
• 19:09
  I don't know what this looks like, but I'm just picturing
• 19:11
  like one of those EQ things for radio.
• 19:14
  I actually have it over there, but yeah, I'm just.
• 19:16
  I'm just picturing if I was to accident.
• 19:18
  Yeah. Oh like all of the knobs get
• 19:21
  cranked? Damns OK, you went, you went
• 19:26
  1/5. And oh, well, yeah, so then I I
• 19:29
  scrambled to throw together another motor just to like, stay
• 19:32
  out on track. Not obviously that track day,
• 19:35
  but. Like I was about to say, you're.
• 19:37
  Amazing. So I bought like a 220,000 mile
• 19:41
  NA2J, put my head on it and let it roll.
• 19:45
  I'm pretty sure I stayed with spinning Knob.
• 19:47
  AFC didn't learn my lesson. It lasted this whole season,
• 19:52
  which like I couldn't be mad at 'cause it had $220,000 on it.
• 19:55
  And I think, yeah, actually I think it got rod knock.
• 19:59
  I mean bottom it. Yeah, I also didn't was fine oil
• 20:01
  temperature gauge at that point. So I'm pretty sure that's what
• 20:05
  cooked it and then I went one JVVTI from there I think.
• 20:09
  And then it never broke again. Pretty much, yeah.
• 20:13
  Newer 1J. I love it.
• 20:16
  I have a 101, so like, it's not the 110.
• 20:19
  Some of the it's all cable. Yeah.
• 20:21
  So when I'd be hitting the throttle, I'd be on that knob
• 20:23
  just fucking in everywhere. Everyone was cracking up about
• 20:27
  it too when we finally got it running because they were like,
• 20:30
  I just know you're going to be revving that shit everywhere you
• 20:32
  go. Everywhere.
• 20:32
  I'm just Burger King drive through.
• 20:34
  Fucking yo. See ya.
• 20:36
  Dude this sounds so good. It's just weird sound I miss it
• 20:40
  so much. Oh.
• 20:41
  Dude, you know what fits in here?
• 20:44
  I know, I know. But it makes it really heavy I
• 20:48
  heard. Yeah, it's too small of a car.
• 20:50
  And yeah, I'm very much like the engine aura has to fit the
• 20:53
  chassis aura. So like I could see like even
• 20:56
  Sr. definitely all into K swap if that if I ever get to that
• 20:59
  point. I don't, but not not a six in
• 21:02
  this. AK swap.
• 21:05
  I just still have my doubts about it just because same.
• 21:08
  It's a non longitudinally mounted engine or whatever.
• 21:13
  It's transverse and if you're shaking it like versus going
• 21:18
  like this now it's going to be shaking essentially like that.
• 21:21
  I don't know. I have a feeling that has to do
• 21:23
  with something. Yeah, and there's something like
• 21:25
  there's a balance shaft that has to get taken out.
• 21:28
  See, that's even more vibrating. That sounds not good.
• 21:30
  Yeah, I'm pretty sure how to put that there for a reason.
• 21:35
  Jimmy. We talked to Jimmy Oakes about
• 21:37
  it. What Car did he have it in where
• 21:38
  he was like, vibrates a lot. Was was it S Tracy?
• 21:43
  Had to be. Something but yeah, he was.
• 21:45
  He was saying he's like the vibration is crazy.
• 21:47
  So I was like, yeah, it's not as great as we thought, I guess.
• 21:50
  But then we spoke to Dave at Toge Factory and like, yeah, he
• 21:54
  had me on board immediately. I was like, they look huge
• 21:58
  celibate. Shit out of that.
• 21:59
  Well, and then did you see they're putting the 1.6 like
• 22:03
  Type R motor? So that would be yes.
• 22:06
  Yeah, it was in the beginning stages.
• 22:07
  When? We were that was there,
• 22:08
  remember? It'll be at final bot I think.
• 22:10
  Or at least that was their plan. But but we saw it when it was
• 22:13
  when he just happened to go like, Oh yeah, we're trying to
• 22:16
  put this 1.6 and I'm like, what are you talking about?
• 22:21
  Like, why would you do that? That motors got like Rev hang in
• 22:26
  my friend's Civic, like it doesn't sound fun, but when you
• 22:31
  I think the reasoning was like he gave us some specs and some
• 22:35
  numbers about it and I again got on board immediately.
• 22:40
  And they actually like the whole like manifold that was built
• 22:42
  into the head or something. Right, Yeah, it makes it easier
• 22:44
  to switch turbos. But then like the longevity is
• 22:47
  when I'm 4, 'cause I was talking to Josh and his axe was fucking
• 22:51
  making crazy noise. I don't know if you knew that or
• 22:54
  if you were supposed to know that, but that's.
• 22:56
  Proceed, Josh. Yeah.
• 22:58
  Oh, I didn't know that. OK, well, maybe something to be
• 23:00
  weary of. Sorry, Josh, he just said, and
• 23:04
  this is Josh, dude. So I was like, what is that,
• 23:07
  son? He's like, oh, it's an axle.
• 23:09
  And we start driving, it sounds like it'll be OK.
• 23:12
  I'm like, it's kind of. OK, things.
• 23:14
  Yeah. So a lot of times you just do a
• 23:15
  burnout and like the axles. Fix them dude.
• 23:17
  It'll it'll snap into the right. Spot.
• 23:19
  Yeah, I remember one time I did a burnout, my axle shattered and
• 23:22
  I was like, OK, yeah. I was like oh fuck.
• 23:25
  But no, he's mentioned a 350Z axle swap.
• 23:29
  This is just an example. Oh yeah, Simba just did that.
• 23:30
  But this is that's like an example of.
• 23:33
  We're. We as a community and and
• 23:37
  manufacturers are keeping those cars going.
• 23:40
  That is on a life support dude, because now you're but now
• 23:44
  you're able to take newer stuff and make it work.
• 23:47
  So now it's like a blend of what you would maybe like.
• 23:51
  Like modern stuff with old shit. Boom, you got a good sandwich.
• 23:54
  Pretty good thing. I mean, everybody's running the
• 23:56
  trans now from Z32 or 33. Yeah, I have ACD in mind.
• 24:01
  I always get it is that. 32 or 33?
• 24:04
  C33. It is 33.
• 24:05
  Yeah, I think that which is what's funny is, is when you
• 24:08
  look at AZ 32 trans, it almost kind of looks like it, but not.
• 24:13
  And it looks exactly like a old trans, but it's just bigger like
• 24:17
  ACDO 9, like yeah. I just didn't want to do the W.
• 24:21
  What trans did you have in the supra?
• 24:22
  RO 54. OK, see.
• 24:24
  So that was the only other option like that.
• 24:26
  So you didn't have AW? Definitely not because AW.
• 24:30
  I kind. Of I don't think a lot, not no,
• 24:34
  no, I don't think too much when I'm driving.
• 24:36
  I'm just trying to drive and my hands and feet just do shit and
• 24:39
  like I wasn't going to have to try to worry about me blowing up
• 24:42
  this trans because I drive it. And they it happens all the
• 24:46
  time. Randomly too, it could be like a
• 24:49
  pole and you just. Yeah, we blew one up in the
• 24:53
  cross of there. OK.
• 24:54
  That was like the second event, see trans blown.
• 24:57
  I'm like, OK, so I guess we can't do that.
• 24:59
  I've seen a few people, they're like, yeah, I'm going to run the
• 25:01
  West for a while. Yeah, that's what people say.
• 25:03
  Like, we'll see how long. Yeah, and you as somebody who is
• 25:08
  like, I feel like a lot of people were for a little while
• 25:11
  were like Internet warrioring. They'll just read it and be
• 25:14
  like, oh, new view series trans is bad if you're daily ING it
• 25:18
  and you're just driving it around, no Motorsports
• 25:21
  involvement. I feel like a 5558 would be OK.
• 25:23
  For sure. And those are the people that
• 25:25
  are chatting the most. Yeah.
• 25:27
  Yeah. True.
• 25:28
  And then I'm like shit, OK, well here's the CD for 100 bucks down
• 25:31
  the road. So let me just go get that.
• 25:33
  I bought that during COVID and. Cause our 50 fours are getting
• 25:35
  old and expensive and I there's one reason I sold the Super.
• 25:39
  I was like if I blow the trans or the engine like I don't want
• 25:42
  to spend this much money. Yeah, and the trans is anese,
• 25:45
  they're OK, right? So it's actually like exactly
• 25:50
  the same as S15. I heard it's got like a
• 25:52
  different bell housing I think. And the RX8 shares it as well.
• 25:56
  I think and RX8 and I've heard conflicting, maybe S2000, but
• 25:59
  like maybe Honda took it and like modified the crap out of
• 26:02
  it. But yeah, RX8 and 15, so
• 26:04
  everybody knows 15 like they're they're not weak, but they're
• 26:07
  not strong. Dude I'm beginning to think
• 26:08
  that's a myth too. Honestly the S15 trans thing.
• 26:11
  No, no, no. Oh, that it's weak.
• 26:13
  Yeah, I don't know. I mean I just had a friend who
• 26:15
  put the HKS turbo on his and he sheared second gear on the
• 26:19
  street but he had been beating on it NA on the track since he
• 26:24
  bought it new in like 16 or 17. So it's just like the S15 thing
• 26:29
  is one of those ones where it's like we we obviously didn't have
• 26:32
  many S fifteens here for a while and that we still don't really.
• 26:35
  And everyone's like, yeah, you can't get that one.
• 26:37
  That one's weak. And it's like, yeah, but did
• 26:39
  anyone actually do that or are we just all saying that it's
• 26:41
  weak? Like, I don't know.
• 26:43
  I remember Josh Delise was going to try, he was considering
• 26:45
  trying it but he never ended up going through with it I don't
• 26:48
  think. But how did you like driving
• 26:50
  this NA? So much fun.
• 26:52
  Yeah, 'cause. You did drive an NA for a little
• 26:54
  while, right? For.
• 26:55
  Basically a whole season and then I like scrambled because
• 26:58
  one of the last events before final bot that I drove, I was
• 27:02
  chasing burst speed on US air and like in drift it's fine.
• 27:07
  But as soon as there's a straightaway or the launch to to
• 27:10
  start driving, just take off on me.
• 27:12
  I'm like, I'm not driving final bot like this where I can't keep
• 27:15
  up with anybody on the straights so.
• 27:17
  You catch them up in the corner so easily though mainly at at
• 27:21
  least when it was GE. What I missed was when I got off
• 27:24
  throttle and got back on, it would almost like kind of grip
• 27:26
  up and surge, grip up, surge, grip up, surge and then you
• 27:29
  would just it makes. You have to be a fast driver,
• 27:31
  yeah. And you don't have as much wheel
• 27:33
  speed. So you're you are definitely
• 27:35
  accelerating faster and like you have to get your line perfectly.
• 27:38
  And it's picking up just the right amount, just the right and
• 27:41
  then? Do you think it's a good
• 27:42
  beginner drift car like that 100?
• 27:44
  Percent, yeah, OK. For sure.
• 27:46
  I mean, I think I haven't driven many of them.
• 27:50
  Like I think 333 is probably easier, just like to go hit the
• 27:54
  track and like it drives better. Very simple.
• 27:57
  I drove one of those with coilovers and a seat and I was
• 28:00
  like, this shit is amazing. But did.
• 28:03
  You find that it was. It was like numb though.
• 28:09
  I only did one lap at U Town. It was Mike's car, remember?
• 28:12
  You were there, I think. Yes, I was.
• 28:13
  And I was calling Frankie a crackhead at that time.
• 28:16
  Yeah, 'cause he was just drifting everybody's car for
• 28:18
  like a lap. I don't know if it was and.
• 28:20
  Then it's just enough. Like, yeah.
• 28:22
  Yeah, I can't remember if it's numb, but I could tell you one
• 28:24
  thing. I Those doors are so fucking
• 28:25
  big. I hate how you feel like you're
• 28:26
  like, sunken into this thing. Yeah, which I usually like in
• 28:29
  cars. Windows like super hot and.
• 28:30
  Everything like this car, I love how it feels inside, but just
• 28:33
  knowing how big the Z is I think just yeah makes me angry.
• 28:37
  Yeah, I just didn't. The couple that I drove, I was
• 28:39
  like, I'm getting no steering feedback from this thing and
• 28:42
  it's just not like it'll drift. But it just wasn't as engaging.
• 28:45
  This has the electric the the the ZN 6 chassis has an electric
• 28:49
  power steering right? Yeah, it has a basically a
• 28:51
  manual rack and then a column mounted.
• 28:54
  Power steering. Wow, what the fuck did you ever
• 28:58
  hear about or mess around with those those adjusters that you?
• 29:01
  Have the wisteria like a Japanese company, yeah.
• 29:06
  And it it doesn't have any adjustment and I have no idea
• 29:09
  what it does, but it's basically a piggyback.
• 29:11
  It like in intercepts the can bus and then just goes into the.
• 29:16
  The power And what's it supposed to do exactly?
• 29:19
  The option article that I translated said it makes it feel
• 29:23
  more like S chassis. OK, so I was like, well.
• 29:25
  That's a step in the right direction, so.
• 29:28
  But actually the bigger. Change.
• 29:29
  So this is a 2013, the 2017 plus models like I don't know what
• 29:34
  the change was but they did something to the power steering
• 29:37
  computer that makes it way better.
• 29:39
  So I have a 2019 computer on here and that was a bigger
• 29:44
  change than the controller. But with the wisteria.
• 29:47
  But with the controller, like 'cause you can, I have a button
• 29:49
  to like turn the controller on and off the wisteria controller
• 29:52
  and like it's better with the controller.
• 29:55
  But it was like, you know, I don't know.
• 29:57
  Plus eight points for the power steering computer, +2 points for
• 30:01
  the. Controller.
• 30:02
  So power steering computer like there's a separate module it's.
• 30:06
  Bigger than the ECU. Oh my God, it's like this big
• 30:10
  and it has like because it takes a ton of power.
• 30:13
  It's got, I don't even know what it is, like 1 gauge wires going
• 30:17
  into whatever. Holy shit.
• 30:19
  It's. Huge wires going into it.
• 30:21
  Dude, I want to get one of these cars.
• 30:22
  No, I dude, I, yeah, I kind of wish we didn't.
• 30:25
  Not. I'm not saying that.
• 30:26
  I'm. I'm very glad we met you.
• 30:28
  Yeah. But now this is poisoning my
• 30:30
  mind. I'm.
• 30:31
  Finally fucking really happy in my IS.
• 30:33
  And I'm like stay with the IS drive I.
• 30:35
  Love it dude, I. The four doors are so
• 30:38
  convenient, no? It's just really easy car to
• 30:41
  drive and I don't, I know I'm not being cocky, I'm not the
• 30:45
  greatest driver on planet Earth, but it just feels really.
• 30:49
  It's like a little maybe JZX or something.
• 30:51
  Dude, like I just let go of the wheel in there and it just
• 30:53
  drifts. I'm just like.
• 30:54
  That's what he calls it. He calls it his JZX.
• 30:56
  Yeah. What do you call it?
• 30:58
  You said something like you're amazing.
• 30:59
  Baby JZX ING 10 Wait what? This guy baby JZX.
• 31:03
  No, I called it. Yeah, like my little JZX.
• 31:06
  Yeah, you said yeah, you kept, you're like, oh, it looks like a
• 31:09
  JZX or something. What was the?
• 31:10
  Thing it was this. It's the running gear.
• 31:12
  The front subframe is literally that of a 110.
• 31:16
  Yeah. The rear suffering, I think is
• 31:18
  also 110 baby. It's it's whatever's in the 110
• 31:21
  is all that's that's all the running gear, except it looks
• 31:23
  better than a 110. Oh.
• 31:25
  Yeah, that ain't hard. Yeah, I got y'all man.
• 31:30
  Yes, not modified. I haven't seen a 110 I thought
• 31:33
  looked good yet. That's the Corolla looking one,
• 31:36
  right? The the we're talking about the
• 31:37
  same one. It's that's the round headlight.
• 31:39
  The there's two versions. Not the Verosa.
• 31:42
  That that's what I'm. Thinking no, Thinking yo, no,
• 31:45
  not his eyes going. Yo those things with big ass
• 31:49
  arrow and slams. They look here.
• 31:51
  Here's the 1110 that I like that was a verosa, which is yo shout
• 31:56
  out to Damien bro. But I love Damien's Verosa.
• 31:59
  The green with the bronze. They're so ugly stock.
• 32:05
  So you do like them, Carl? Just that one and and just
• 32:08
  'cause I know dude, you got to support your homies, but man, I
• 32:11
  like that one. I'm not supporting the Verosa.
• 32:13
  And, and I only liked it. Can't do it.
• 32:15
  I only liked it when it was like that, like sideways a little bit
• 32:19
  so you couldn't see the middle lights, just the side.
• 32:23
  So you don't like it? Not really, but that one, I like
• 32:27
  it. Just like the way it was.
• 32:28
  Yeah, it is what it is. It's what you do some.
• 32:30
  People like it. And Bro, Lee, you, bro, you had
• 32:34
  a Mark 3 Super row and you were. And you had people liking it.
• 32:37
  Yeah. So that is hard to do too.
• 32:39
  It's pretty hard to do and yet you did that, so I wouldn't
• 32:43
  doubt that if you made a 110 that I would like that too.
• 32:46
  I. Don't think I'll ever do that
• 32:47
  though. Yeah.
• 32:49
  Do you know? Maybe in 15 years we'll see.
• 32:51
  Yeah, I think that they would be awesome, cruise around cars when
• 32:54
  we're older, you know what I mean?
• 32:56
  The oscillating benchers are super nice don't I think I got
• 33:00
  like Navi built in and everything.
• 33:01
  Yeah, dude. And, and by that point, like,
• 33:05
  we're gonna be old and nobody's gonna give a fuck about what
• 33:08
  we're doing. We're just driving around and on
• 33:10
  the wrong side of the road. Bunch of electric cars driving
• 33:12
  around and those. Are the last Oh no, don't, don't
• 33:14
  bring up the electric cars. Don't do that bro, you already
• 33:17
  made the switch. Half half.
• 33:19
  You're half in the door. Oh no.
• 33:22
  But I told you I I wanted one as well.
• 33:23
  Man. Bitches love Teslas, man.
• 33:26
  White Tesla, White interior wet. No white interior.
• 33:31
  Yeah, they come with a white interior.
• 33:33
  Sick. It looks real and somehow it's
• 33:35
  like stays clean. And like wipes.
• 33:37
  Off really, really well and everything.
• 33:39
  Like I don't know what they do. How's your interior like?
• 33:41
  Anything in the interior been Lee has a has a what?
• 33:43
  What kind of Tesla? You have a model 3?
• 33:45
  Which model 3 do you have? Like is it a a dual motor?
• 33:50
  Dual motor, long range. Yeah, you got those?
• 33:53
  It's not a. Performance, I know, but I've
• 33:55
  driven one of those and to the normal person that is a really
• 34:02
  fucking fast Yeah, it's. Really scary.
• 34:06
  It's so that's why I'm that's why I why I like them so much is
• 34:10
  like for just daily driving around and everything like I
• 34:13
  hope I never have like AEV fun car or whatever.
• 34:17
  But for daily driving like the immediate power, no sound like
• 34:22
  super smooth. It's it's amazing.
• 34:24
  So scared. Have you driven?
• 34:25
  One, I've driven a Tesla back when they, like kind of first
• 34:28
  came out and I was like, it's like, holy shit, dude.
• 34:31
  I was like, how are they selling these on to random people?
• 34:33
  Yeah. It's kind of hard to not like
• 34:36
  them once you actually drive one.
• 34:38
  Still hated it, but I did drive it.
• 34:41
  That was so fast dude. I just wanted to make that
• 34:43
  clear. It was, it was really freaky
• 34:46
  when I got in when it was probably when it just came out
• 34:48
  as well. I mean, if I wasn't a nerd with
• 34:50
  like gasoline cars and shit, then yeah, sure, I guess it
• 34:53
  would be. Cool, I'm trying to be in more
• 34:55
  in on the non bias. Thing I can't change that about
• 34:58
  myself. I know I really can't.
• 34:59
  I know you cannot. The second I hear a an engine
• 35:02
  start and smell it, I'm like this is there's.
• 35:04
  Times I missed the engine. Yeah, sure.
• 35:06
  But I get it. It's a daily driver.
• 35:08
  It's different. It's not.
• 35:09
  But then you that's why I also got this like full interior.
• 35:11
  I can drive it to work or like. Whatever, like if you were
• 35:14
  drifting a Tesla, this would be a way different conversation.
• 35:16
  The one thing that like dude, when I I'd be like, what's wrong
• 35:18
  with you drifting Tesla's yes, like dude, all you hear is
• 35:21
  tires. Yeah, the worst noise about
• 35:23
  drifting, Yeah. But track cars?
• 35:27
  Looks kind of. Cool.
• 35:29
  Yo, I've seen one you. Hear the gear, wine and
• 35:32
  everything through the like as you're going through it.
• 35:34
  And yeah. Super fast but they look good.
• 35:36
  They do handle really well. Like the battery all the way
• 35:39
  down low. Like they handle really well.
• 35:41
  What size? Wheel would go on that a 19 like
• 35:45
  for a track purpose like. Well, stock is 18, operated is
• 35:50
  19 and then like the performance has 20s.
• 35:52
  I think I would do 18 or 19. Yeah, I I would probably go to
• 35:56
  18. With the chunky wheel wheels on
• 35:58
  it like it since it's it really doesn't have a lot of physical
• 36:01
  attributes that separate it's it's a car.
• 36:04
  Yeah, it's pretty similar to just a car, yeah.
• 36:07
  Another. I seen one and with with like T
• 36:10
  ES on it and stuff and I was like what is that?
• 36:13
  Yes, they look. I think they look really.
• 36:15
  Good. They look cool.
• 36:16
  Yo, did you see the new ones headlights the OK, so they're in
• 36:19
  the office. You get a lot of the people that
• 36:21
  get the shit brand new right off the lot and I seen the new one
• 36:25
  when it came out and it looks. I'm not a fan of the headlights.
• 36:28
  You brought up the headlights. That's what I like.
• 36:30
  You like headlights? I like tail lights.
• 36:32
  What's wrong with what's like? What's up with the headlights?
• 36:34
  That shit went from going like this to like, yeah.
• 36:37
  Exactly. But I like eyelids and stuff.
• 36:39
  So like as soon as the the lights got smaller, I was like,
• 36:42
  oh, that thing. Oh, cool.
• 36:43
  Is it? Yeah.
• 36:43
  I just don't like how I feel like I'm watching iPhones drive
• 36:47
  around like they all look the same, right?
• 36:49
  They're. Like like you said, you kind of
• 36:50
  have to like put your I don't ego or like whatever the hell it
• 36:54
  is aside and just be like. I saw one cool one on the road
• 36:57
  once. I was like, OK, that looks cool.
• 37:00
  Did you see SO? Tia Dave just got a a brand new
• 37:02
  one with the squinty eyes but then before that.
• 37:06
  That should be the name for it the the facelift.
• 37:08
  He had. He had the same model as mine
• 37:11
  with some Japanese aero kit. I think I saw.
• 37:17
  I think I saw it. Artisan spirit on OH.
• 37:19
  Yes, I do remember yo and yo that's that speaks waves in its
• 37:25
  own bro Artisan spirits is making something for it.
• 37:28
  Didn't they make? Oh no, I'm thinking of different
• 37:30
  spirit. Techno spirit was another one
• 37:32
  that was the light blue teal lips on the cars white lips.
• 37:36
  It's like spirit techno spirit. That's the thing.
• 37:40
  I believe you, thank you, but the but that's the cool thing is
• 37:43
  like the owner of Toge factory and stance and origin USA like
• 37:47
  they're I'm I'm sorry, origin, whatever he had, he had one
• 37:57
  modded it, drove it for years, and then he got another one
• 38:00
  because he liked it so much. So.
• 38:04
  He's always trying to be as you please, you know, But again, the
• 38:07
  util the appliance factor of it, yeah, A to B kind of makes
• 38:13
  sense. I'm not a fan of the way that
• 38:16
  the batteries need to get made and how much resource needs to.
• 38:19
  Be I don't have this because I care about the environment I I.
• 38:23
  Figured I figured it's hard to do that like my sister's
• 38:26
  environment type of person. So what does she say?
• 38:30
  But she thinks the batteries are a waste of fucking resources.
• 38:32
  Wow, that's probably the only reason why I'm saying this right
• 38:35
  now to be honest. Do you think our support cares?
• 38:37
  Funny that she's an environmentalist and yeah, and
• 38:39
  she does not like they. Overlook that kind of shit.
• 38:41
  Yeah, and like, she doesn't like the whole Tesla thing.
• 38:45
  The pinnacle of the whole thing, in my opinion, was the 2006
• 38:50
  Prius. Those.
• 38:52
  Unfortunately, I really like Prius.
• 38:54
  I like the new Prius. I'd probably get a Prius before
• 38:56
  a Tesla. The new Prius looks.
• 38:58
  Sick. You see, I remember I got one
• 38:59
  for a rental like 10 years ago or something and I was like, why
• 39:02
  do I like driving this thing so much?
• 39:04
  Is your drive so weird the the rack is so light?
• 39:09
  I don't even. Yeah, but it's a quick rack.
• 39:11
  Yeah, yeah. And it's and it just like we, we
• 39:15
  cannot be. Why are we talking about this
• 39:16
  right? Now, right.
• 39:17
  Yeah, Let's go back to the to the sports cars.
• 39:20
  No, yeah, that Prius though is good.
• 39:23
  Yo, you got a blown head gasket in one of those?
• 39:25
  Go to Queens NY head gasket. 4 hours in and out really quick.
• 39:29
  I don't know how reliable it's going to be, but they'll have
• 39:32
  you in and out of there with a new head.
• 39:34
  That's a big problem with those cars.
• 39:35
  Well, that one generation or whatever.
• 39:36
  That's one reason I don't like hybrids, because now you have
• 39:38
  like 2 failure points. That are even and one of them
• 39:40
  you don't know how the hell to work on it.
• 39:42
  Yeah, exactly. Like complicated working back
• 39:45
  and forth and everything. And I've heard the reliability
• 39:47
  on those is not great. Overtime.
• 39:50
  Really. Even for a Toyota.
• 39:51
  Like, yeah, even for a Toyota. Yeah, we.
• 39:55
  Were talking about wheel sizes before.
• 39:57
  That's another reason I like these cars, because the wheel
• 39:59
  sizes are normal. That's exactly.
• 40:02
  Yeah, then you go to like a new Z and you're like oh, you need
• 40:04
  20s? What?
• 40:05
  Oh yeah, or the the new Honda. Oh my, it's not new anymore.
• 40:08
  But the Type R bro actually it came with 20 ones or something.
• 40:11
  Yeah, but so big I. Was like a moment they put
• 40:13
  eighteens on it with a bigger tire.
• 40:17
  Yes and no. I mean, the wheel.
• 40:18
  Wheel's still too big. You know what?
• 40:20
  The tire the tire, the just the tires 1.
• 40:22
  Yeah, Blue 1, I don't know. T ES looks great eighteens that
• 40:26
  call. Looks really good.
• 40:27
  Border like yeah definitely lower like that's like AS 13
• 40:31
  spec TE 2 it's like 18 by 9 1/2 they got.
• 40:34
  To stop making these wheels so big from the factories.
• 40:36
  I agree that Honda wheel was crazy. 1718 is the perfect size.
• 40:41
  Yeah, yeah. This is 17. 18 every.
• 40:43
  Oh yeah. This is 2.
• 40:44
  Yeah stagger. Oh wow that's cool.
• 40:47
  I was wondering how that would look on one of these.
• 40:49
  Perfect, apparently. Yeah.
• 40:51
  Dude, I'm telling you, I'm real concerned about that.
• 40:54
  What me too yo like? I just keep looking at it the.
• 40:59
  Front is going to be the problem.
• 41:00
  It looks like it's glued in there.
• 41:03
  It looks like a model car that I'm like, yeah, this isn't even
• 41:05
  really going to roll. Let me just glue this wheel.
• 41:06
  Into here Carl was talking about the rear fitment.
• 41:08
  I'm sorry. Yeah, we're we're looking at
• 41:09
  Lee's car. It's behind us.
• 41:11
  It's looking sick. The back fitment.
• 41:13
  There's a photo of it on your page.
• 41:14
  That's where I saw it first. That's why I walked immediately.
• 41:17
  There and it's it's rubbing like at static yeah, I'm just I'm
• 41:20
  assuming it'll rub away and it'll.
• 41:22
  Under under compression at all, you know, that's probably.
• 41:24
  The coolest thing about overs is like it will probably flex to an
• 41:29
  extent do that. It'll wear away.
• 41:31
  Until it. Until it doesn't and then we all
• 41:34
  get hit with shrapnel and I'm going to be like, I'm.
• 41:38
  Going to be so salty when? No, no, no.
• 41:41
  Don't say it. Don't say it.
• 41:44
  It's just the name of the game. The under panels too.
• 41:46
  The under panels are good because it's a little taller in
• 41:49
  the front so I feel like it works definitely.
• 41:52
  Yeah, that was because like, yeah, clearance in the front.
• 41:54
  Like I mean, I would love to go lower on this.
• 41:57
  My plan was to go lower, but like I have at static in the
• 42:01
  front I have like, I don't know, half an inch of clearance in
• 42:04
  some places. So.
• 42:06
  Going up over the first turn at US Air is going to be pretty
• 42:09
  spicy. Are you talking about just the
• 42:10
  outside or the inside too? Inside the inside on these is
• 42:14
  really tight in like every direction.
• 42:17
  So that's one reason I had two fifteens on there before I had
• 42:20
  the wide body, because you just don't have enough space.
• 42:25
  And then it was rubbing on the like.
• 42:27
  First it was rubbing on the inner frame rail, then I got
• 42:31
  extended lowers to take care of that, and then it was rubbing
• 42:34
  wheel on tie rod. Now I got lower offset.
• 42:37
  So I think I'm good there, but now it's going to start rubbing
• 42:39
  on something else. Yeah.
• 42:41
  There's there's going to be a sweet spot on that.
• 42:44
  That is like the I mean those problems are the number one
• 42:47
  problems with trying to have a low drift car.
• 42:49
  It's always the front and wheel fit mini.
• 42:51
  Side A boxer motor that sits low and super wide.
• 42:55
  So now the frame rails are even out further.
• 42:56
  Yeah, wow, Yeah. That sits low in there.
• 42:59
  I thought the whole thing, I thought the whole thing about it
• 43:01
  was that the pan was nice and. But the engine is sits sits low
• 43:06
  in the car in general. So this the center of gravity
• 43:09
  is. But if you were to scrape
• 43:10
  something, the pan isn't the. First pan is about normal.
• 43:12
  What you would? Yeah, that's probably my
• 43:14
  favorite thing. Is like half the height of a
• 43:16
  inline 4. My favorite thing about the IS
• 43:18
  right now, or in general, period, is the fact that no
• 43:21
  matter how low it was, I knew the first thing that's gonna hit
• 43:26
  is the subframe. Yeah.
• 43:28
  That's a very. And that's it, yeah.
• 43:30
  Like, yeah. That's not a good thing to hit,
• 43:33
  but like it would hit that first and I thank God that stayed like
• 43:37
  that. But man, I, I, I got to stop
• 43:39
  turning around and looking at it.
• 43:40
  I know, right? I would like to.
• 43:41
  This is the worst seat for me. 'Cause like I, I would love a
• 43:45
  daily and like a daily that looks good and like.
• 43:48
  Can you not daily your ISI? Used I do still, but now when it
• 43:54
  has to get down for a few yeah yeah, like inconvenience and
• 43:58
  sometimes I've been noticing and I'm the big advocate I love.
• 44:04
  I put 60,000 on the IS in a year once after I managed and swapped
• 44:08
  it. What?
• 44:08
  Wait, what? Yeah, that year that I managed
• 44:10
  and swapped it 66 zero. What did you do?
• 44:14
  A couple tours around the US, yeah.
• 44:16
  What? Up and down the East Coast?
• 44:18
  I was driving it. I was driving it to my friend's
• 44:19
  house, who always lives an hour away.
• 44:21
  Every other day I was driving. I drove it down to South
• 44:24
  Carolina once, then North Carolina another time, then to
• 44:27
  Vermont once, just randomly that.
• 44:29
  Is insane. I was driving it all time as a
• 44:32
  car. The IS is nice, dude.
• 44:35
  Yeah, when you don't do anything.
• 44:36
  The interior is that perfect. Like, yeah, it it still has the
• 44:40
  old feel, but it's a little bit more modern.
• 44:43
  When you close the door it doesn't fucking sound like it's
• 44:46
  going to blow apart like a 240. Nothing like the sticky dash.
• 44:50
  Not mine. Because your man mine also I
• 44:53
  somehow avoided. I don't know how I mine has a
• 44:55
  Mine is AO2 which is when they would start doing it.
• 44:58
  So was there you think there was like two different
• 45:00
  manufacturers? 01 they had one where it's Gray,
• 45:03
  2 tone and that one doesn't get sticky.
• 45:05
  And usually what happens is if somebody had already addressed
• 45:08
  it, you 'cause you could address it, you send it off or do
• 45:10
  whatever it is. But mine looks really odd, like
• 45:16
  OEM looking like. I don't think anybody would have
• 45:18
  put the effort. Yeah.
• 45:19
  And so I'm just like, what did they do to this?
• 45:21
  Like it doesn't matter, 'cause I gotta.
• 45:24
  Oh yeah, One of my favorite stickers in my interior.
• 45:28
  Yeah. And it just right there covers
• 45:30
  it up. So it did melt you just covered.
• 45:32
  It it didn't it didn't I just. Where it would melt.
• 45:34
  Where it would melt that little panel there I, I have a little
• 45:37
  sticker there for for pneumatic stuff man, what a great car in
• 45:41
  stock form. I, I just, I know that there's
• 45:44
  occasions where I would not drive a drift.
• 45:46
  I don't want to drive my drift car like my friends are pulling
• 45:49
  up in like fucking 9 elevens and stuff and I'm like, yeah, my
• 45:53
  shit sounds awesome, but like it's going to also pull in going
• 45:58
  and then it's like, yo, but check this out like it's cool.
• 46:05
  But I do I do yearn for that nicer like hole.
• 46:09
  This is what this is. It's like a very polished car.
• 46:11
  The only thing I didn't like about these cars was for some
• 46:13
  reason I have this thing where like I feel like a drift car
• 46:15
  needs to be turboed unless it's an 886.
• 46:17
  Like that's the only one in my head.
• 46:19
  So I was like, you have to boost this.
• 46:21
  But then part of me was like, I like that car, NA for everything
• 46:24
  but drifting, like I think it's great.
• 46:26
  That's another thing about like how I think they built this
• 46:28
  thing to be turbo because you it has enough fuel for and like the
• 46:33
  engine's strong enough for 300 horsepower turbo like and
• 46:36
  that's. Perfect.
• 46:37
  Bought the HKS kit, I put it on over a weekend.
• 46:40
  I got like it. Basically a ROM tune.
• 46:42
  So open flash tablet to ROM tune the stock ECU.
• 46:45
  Oh God. And tuned it like that's it.
• 46:48
  Really 'cause OK, that sounds like a OK now correct me if I'm
• 46:52
  wrong unk, but back in the day that is what a turbo install
• 46:57
  really was. You install the turbo, you get
• 47:01
  something for the ECU and you go, oh.
• 47:04
  Yeah, but back. In the day it was not reliable.
• 47:07
  It wasn't that easy. And like you had to get like or
• 47:09
  like a rising rate fuel pressure regulator.
• 47:12
  Oh yeah, janky shit. One to one Jones.
• 47:14
  Yeah. But but this thing is just, I
• 47:17
  feel like they're like, OK, people are gonna want to turbo
• 47:19
  these, so let's give them enough fuel and everything to hit 300,
• 47:22
  which is kind of like what this car should have from the
• 47:25
  factory. That's so funny.
• 47:26
  And then like they can figure it out from there.
• 47:28
  It also doesn't look out of place in there, not for nothing.
• 47:32
  It's it's in exactly almost where like a Honda D series
• 47:36
  turbo would be. It's like right up front, yeah,
• 47:38
  But like, it just looks normal in there.
• 47:40
  Like it doesn't look like you had to work really hard to put
• 47:44
  it in there. Yeah, well, that's also HKS.
• 47:46
  Like because that was one thing when I did the Greti kit on my
• 47:51
  brother's car, it was like so comforting knowing that like
• 47:54
  anytime you ran into like, well, this doesn't fit, it's like
• 47:57
  you're doing something wrong. Like go back and read the
• 47:59
  instructions. You don't have to modify to make
• 48:01
  it fit. And so that was one reason I was
• 48:04
  like, all right, I'm going to go with HKS.
• 48:05
  Like I can trust them. And yeah, it just like you read
• 48:08
  the color instructions that come with it and you just just like
• 48:12
  all goes together. Why'd you specify the color
• 48:15
  instructions 'cause? Just because it's just a nice
• 48:18
  kit that you know they didn't cheap out and go with black and
• 48:20
  white. Yeah, which a lot of companies
• 48:22
  do do, Yeah, the older you go. They didn't give you AQR code.
• 48:25
  There's. Some US, yeah, there's some US
• 48:27
  kits that have like YouTube videos that they just paid like
• 48:30
  a influence or whatever to install and and that's their
• 48:34
  instructions. And then you for some reason,
• 48:36
  everybody has to modify one thing or another to make it fit.
• 48:40
  And those kits actually cost more than the HKS or Gritty kit
• 48:45
  for this car. Why don't people like running
• 48:48
  these? I don't.
• 48:50
  Know because they're expensive. Yeah, it's probably just now
• 48:53
  getting to the point where they're.
• 48:54
  Always reasonably priced. Yeah, that's probably the only
• 48:57
  reason, yeah. What are we talking about?
• 48:58
  Like, that's one grand. Yeah, right.
• 49:00
  It's more. 5 grand for like 1 SRK.
• 49:02
  Well I bought this it had so it had 60,000 miles.
• 49:05
  It was super clean and I got it for 12 1/2 I.
• 49:08
  Think Oh no, I'm talking about the turbo kit.
• 49:09
  Oh, I know that the the pricing for these there's lots of
• 49:12
  variables, title, status, accident record for sure mileage
• 49:16
  like it's an I. Think these cars are affordable?
• 49:18
  Yeah, they're they're getting there now.
• 49:20
  Yeah, it's nice. But yeah, the turbo kit was 45
• 49:23
  landed I think. And I even.
• 49:25
  Put it on stock clutch for the first final bout and the crazy
• 49:29
  thing was I would try to like upshift third in a couple places
• 49:32
  and I could feel the clutch slip.
• 49:33
  So like I would just leave it in 2nd and it lasted the whole 2
• 49:36
  days like no problem I'd pull out of US air and start to get
• 49:41
  into boost and the clutch just so I had to drive home the whole
• 49:45
  way. 4 hours like no boost at all.
• 49:47
  Like the clutch lasted until the very last minute.
• 49:50
  And then got me home. That's great.
• 49:53
  Dude I oh damn I don't want to think about trying to get
• 49:57
  another car bro but that's such a good car.
• 49:59
  Yo do you remember what kind of MPGS you were getting?
• 50:02
  Like when it was NA. No.
• 50:07
  I know I drive an EV but I love that man.
• 50:09
  Dude. I like he thought you'd be into
• 50:10
  it 'cause you drive a Tesla. I like I I'm a big MPGS guy,
• 50:13
  man, because like eventually like I in the in the Sequoia
• 50:18
  that I have it's like 17, but then you fill it up 80 bucks, 70
• 50:23
  bucks you get 330 miles. You go in the IS, you fill it up
• 50:26
  with premium, you go with the same 330 miles, but not now
• 50:31
  you're spending like, I don't know, 85 bucks.
• 50:35
  I remember the IS did not like what, low 20s or something.
• 50:38
  It's not that great little kind of little car.
• 50:40
  I was really surprised. It's really bad for what it is.
• 50:43
  With the one J it actually got better.
• 50:45
  I believe it. I got like I get like 23 or 24
• 50:49
  if it's all highway turbo. Efficiency.
• 50:52
  But the GE was just like. Sometimes that number doesn't
• 50:56
  even really matter from. Across the block NA.
• 50:59
  Dude, they just last forever. Yeah, you can do whatever you
• 51:02
  want to that thing. Yeah, dude, just put oil in it.
• 51:04
  That's it. Why did you get rid of the
• 51:06
  supra? I feel like there was a reason.
• 51:08
  No, it was more it was kind of like one of those multiple
• 51:12
  things contributing of just like I had had it for a certain
• 51:15
  amount of time. So I was just kind of like, I
• 51:18
  remember looking at it like one night and I was like, where do I
• 51:21
  go from here? Like I, I think it's just
• 51:24
  maintain it and then when I think about maintaining it, so
• 51:28
  first the engine and trans, it was like, if I blow this thing,
• 51:30
  like I really don't want to spend 5 to 10 grand to replace
• 51:34
  that. As much as I love Jay-Z, it's
• 51:36
  just not worth it and, and prices just continue to go up.
• 51:40
  And then I had a custom over fenders front and rear on it
• 51:45
  from some dude in the Dominican Republic that like I just found
• 51:49
  on Are You? Yeah, we got Lewis in the back.
• 51:54
  Lewis is him. And he was like super shady.
• 51:57
  He like screwed over a bunch of guys on super forums.
• 52:00
  But. Lewis No, no, no not.
• 52:02
  Him. It's not him.
• 52:05
  It's not him, but he did deliver for to like out of probably 75%
• 52:09
  of his customers, he delivered. But like it always showed up
• 52:11
  late and shit and I was like, but those things are so sick.
• 52:14
  Like I'm going to roll the dice and try to get them.
• 52:17
  I did get them. He screwed me over a little bit.
• 52:19
  I was supposed to get some like extra vents and shit that he
• 52:21
  never sent, but I got the main stuff.
• 52:23
  And then I was also like, same thing.
• 52:25
  It's like if I crash this thing and ruin the fenders, what now?
• 52:29
  Because then the guy actually disappeared.
• 52:31
  There was a hurricane down there or something right in Dominican
• 52:35
  Republic, like 10. I was, I mean, this is like not
• 52:39
  probably not ten years ago now, but right around there.
• 52:42
  You do have a. Drift.
• 52:44
  Track Oh really 2? Actually so So they wiped out
• 52:49
  the dam. But yeah, there was there was a
• 52:51
  hurricane down there or something, and the guy
• 52:55
  disappeared after that. But I'm pretty sure he
• 52:58
  disappeared. He used that as an excuse to get
• 53:00
  out of all the other business because a couple years later I
• 53:03
  noticed that his account was liking stuff but he didn't post
• 53:07
  anything. That's interesting.
• 53:09
  So, but yeah. And then?
• 53:11
  JP 5. That's what I was going to ask
• 53:14
  too. Because I know that JP
• 53:16
  fiberglass rebranded for a bunch of different other at least in
• 53:20
  my I know. But my opinion is that like he
• 53:24
  started or they started selling a bunch didn't fly right with a
• 53:30
  bunch of people. So they flew under a shell for a
• 53:32
  little while and then flew under another shell and then after
• 53:36
  that like another one. The only reason why I was I was
• 53:39
  still thinking was JP is because of the stock.
• 53:41
  Photos. It's just there's so many
• 53:44
  examples of those companies. In the Automotive World.
• 53:46
  Like there's so many shady dudes that just try to make a buck and
• 53:50
  then they rebrand and rebrand and it's, I don't know, it's
• 53:55
  just part of it, I guess. Yeah, it is.
• 53:57
  And then what sucks is like those people are probably not
• 54:00
  worrying about money. And then like, I'm over here
• 54:01
  trying to do ethical business and.
• 54:05
  I actually no, well, I think most of those guys are just
• 54:07
  really bad at money and like managing their business.
• 54:10
  And that's why I think, I think like, I don't know what, like
• 54:13
  half of those shady guys, they're not bad intentioned.
• 54:17
  They're just terrible business people.
• 54:19
  Probably then probably accurate. Yeah.
• 54:21
  And then they run out of money and they don't they like they
• 54:23
  can't make the refunds even though they want to.
• 54:25
  And but at the end of the day, whether you're trying to screw
• 54:29
  me over or you're just bad at business, like same effect.
• 54:32
  Yeah, the result is still the same, like money was exchanged
• 54:36
  and a product was not delivered. Bad business.
• 54:40
  Yep, for some reason I remember like reading.
• 54:41
  I don't know how the fuck I would have found this.
• 54:43
  Did you have like a build thread somewhere for the Supra?
• 54:46
  Zip tied and super forms. Maybe I've read something like
• 54:50
  within the last four? Years do you hear me like
• 54:52
  burping I'm. Like I can't trying to look I.
• 54:54
  Can no dude. Pussy ass burp bro, can't even
• 54:58
  hear it. Super forms dude.
• 55:00
  I feel like is your name on Super forms still Turbo to ERBO?
• 55:04
  Yeah. It's been like that for a while.
• 55:06
  Yeah, I definitely been. I just thought I remember seeing
• 55:08
  something about that car and when you were selling it or when
• 55:11
  you were thinking about selling it, maybe you wrote something up
• 55:13
  I. Don't know.
• 55:13
  I definitely like, I don't know, like when testing waters or
• 55:17
  whatever a couple times in years prior, but then this one, the
• 55:21
  last time I sold I was like, no, like I'm doing it so.
• 55:25
  Do you know where it went? Some dude in Texas, I'm blanking
• 55:30
  on his name. I know, Roger.
• 55:31
  I think, yeah. He's got to be driven.
• 55:32
  In Austin he did for like the first, the first few months
• 55:37
  after he got it. Then it became Texas hot.
• 55:39
  So he's like, I'm taking a break into winter.
• 55:42
  And then I guess he hurt his back super bad.
• 55:45
  So like he couldn't. He was like almost immobile.
• 55:47
  It sounded like, OK, so that's why he's trying to sell it now.
• 55:50
  He's like, I don't know when I'm going to get better and.
• 55:52
  Jeez, that sounds super bad. OK.
• 55:55
  I knew you were going to do that.
• 55:57
  Do you like that one? No.
• 55:58
  OK, but. Yeah, still like he basically
• 56:01
  kept it exactly the same. Really and really like Gray
• 56:05
  color. Same.
• 56:06
  It's still got all the vinyl on it.
• 56:07
  Oh, really? Yeah.
• 56:08
  Like I think he changed the wheels maybe but.
• 56:12
  That's crazy, yeah. That must be weird.
• 56:15
  Imagine, like, not weird, but like, actually no, yeah, that'd
• 56:19
  be weird. You'd be like, damn, what the
• 56:20
  hell did I go over there? Oh, wait.
• 56:23
  Oh, wait, yeah. Imagine your car ends up being
• 56:24
  like, not in a museum, but you know, like one of those cars
• 56:28
  because you have all the I. Kind of like that it's just
• 56:30
  sitting in his garage as I sold it to a base.
• 56:33
  Like it just storing. It but it was really cool too,
• 56:36
  because the first event he took it to and he he'd been driving
• 56:40
  for like a couple years. He was like decent and he sent
• 56:44
  me some videos of in car like to his friend on his iPhone and
• 56:48
  they were like dying like laughing, having a blast driving
• 56:52
  this thing like Oh my God, this thing's so sick.
• 56:55
  Like it was like it felt really good to to see them enjoying
• 57:00
  what I spent. My work on yo that is actually
• 57:03
  that must be really, that must be a pretty fucking good.
• 57:06
  Feeling, yeah, it was great. But now, yeah, I wish, I wish I
• 57:10
  was being driven somewhere. I know he wanted to get into Rd.
• 57:13
  Racing with it which so did I just I can't afford 2
• 57:17
  Motorsports. Just imagine that thing, one J
• 57:21
  with the wing just barking just down on a long.
• 57:23
  Straight, it's like rolling through well, and that's again
• 57:26
  like in defense of MK3, the suspension setup is almost
• 57:31
  identical to MK4, like all the arms are just a little bit
• 57:34
  different. But like MK4 has this, you know,
• 57:39
  it's like Messiah of the Automotive World and MK3 is like
• 57:43
  the shit child. I don't even but it's they're
• 57:46
  really similar. I don't like the interior of the
• 57:49
  market. Like never even grew on me.
• 57:52
  I think it's so ugly. How do you sit in something for
• 57:54
  15 years and he never? Liked the?
• 57:56
  Interior and never oh. My gosh, I'm a huge interior
• 58:01
  guy. Like that was one thing that
• 58:02
  drew me to this is I love the. Interior on that cartoon, yeah.
• 58:05
  But. 15 years. He didn't like what it looked
• 58:07
  like in there. Yeah.
• 58:09
  Dude, the new ones too, Oh my God.
• 58:11
  The GRS, Yeah, Oh my God. Dude, it's such a nice car.
• 58:14
  The interior's too nice to drift. 100% yeah.
• 58:17
  I would never. I never look at that car and
• 58:19
  think drifting ever. I'm just like I think daily.
• 58:21
  Drive, but you give it like 5-10 years and we'll be like, oh,
• 58:23
  that's piece of shit talking about.
• 58:25
  Yeah. People are drifting him though.
• 58:26
  There's one at club Loose a light a light a lot.
• 58:28
  Of the guys do. And yeah, they're crazy and
• 58:30
  they're out-of-the-box type of beat.
• 58:31
  Like it doesn't seem that there's like an angle mod or
• 58:34
  anything differently. There is a dude, Brad, he lives
• 58:38
  in Wisconsin and he works like so we have a Great Lakes
• 58:42
  Dragway, which is where I started drag racing.
• 58:44
  It's like an hour N but they have a skid pad there.
• 58:47
  He runs the skid pad and he's only been driving for a couple
• 58:50
  of years, but also tons of SIM time and bone stock GR and he
• 58:57
  goes to US Air and he's doing like door to door tandem with
• 59:00
  some of the best and the best cars, like super modified cars.
• 59:03
  It's crazy how capable that car is.
• 59:06
  I remember when these cars came out and there was a drift team
• 59:10
  at final bout. I always mess this up.
• 59:12
  Yes, the cars were like white, silver something.
• 59:17
  They were like very plain. So I know it was well, Griff,
• 59:20
  Well, wait, which final bout? One of the earlier ones.
• 59:23
  Yeah, so that would have been Griff and Slava.
• 59:27
  Yes. Cool, cool runnings.
• 59:29
  Cool runnings dude. Every time I bring this up, no
• 59:32
  one way. That was the fuck?
• 59:34
  That was their team name. That was the team, Yeah.
• 59:36
  And no one's ever been able to identify those teams.
• 59:39
  That's my spirit. They were first, like those cars
• 59:41
  were two years old. Yeah.
• 59:43
  And I was like, yo, this is kind of sick.
• 59:45
  And they all looked really good. Yeah.
• 59:47
  Like, yeah. They could all drive and.
• 59:49
  But but my thought process was what the fuck is wrong with
• 59:52
  these people? Like these cars are brand new,
• 59:54
  but that's cool because that's our that's our generation of
• 59:57
  like seeing S chassis in the 90s on drift tracks and you're like,
• 1:00:00
  how the fuck were they? Even.
• 1:00:02
  Well, that's more like when we were watching Japanese videos.
• 1:00:05
  That's what I mean. Like we're watching that and
• 1:00:06
  you're seeing like S fifteens and you're like it's 2001 it.
• 1:00:09
  Had just come out too that was just about to relate related to
• 1:00:12
  an S15 because I'm like in those videos that car was kind of new
• 1:00:16
  and you look inside and it's all hacked up already yeah what?
• 1:00:18
  That A86 back in like the early 90s that was basically brand
• 1:00:23
  new. That's essentially.
• 1:00:25
  This is what we would be looking.
• 1:00:26
  That's what the age difference would be for sure.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah, yeah. And I love seeing how many how
• 1:00:33
  many kids are like getting into drifting because they buy one of
• 1:00:37
  these things and then it's just so easy to drive to and from the
• 1:00:41
  track, like super reliable. I don't know, this is weird
• 1:00:45
  because they have like a weird. Some people think they're really
• 1:00:48
  unreliable and for some people they seem to be.
• 1:00:52
  But then. There's because it's a Subaru,
• 1:00:54
  Yeah, and most of the owners don't put oil in.
• 1:00:55
  Them. That's what I was about to
• 1:00:56
  think. It's mostly maintenance.
• 1:00:58
  Yeah, I do too. And there is a RTV problem that
• 1:01:00
  you gotta clean out the and I did that as soon as I got it and
• 1:01:03
  there was some RTV in there. Yeah, so even on these really I
• 1:01:07
  thought that was just a GR thing.
• 1:01:08
  So even on these they they're pretty bad with.
• 1:01:11
  That no. So the GR, as far as I know,
• 1:01:13
  it's more like oil slash. That is a problem, too.
• 1:01:18
  Yeah. But they're still finding.
• 1:01:20
  Are they tons of it in there? Yeah.
• 1:01:21
  And apparently it's from the front cover.
• 1:01:23
  Yeah. It's not even from the oil pan
• 1:01:25
  that they. They put like excess all over
• 1:01:26
  the front cover and it's like falling in.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah. But yeah, it's pretty crazy.
• 1:01:31
  But yeah, it's for it's working for tons of people to just buy
• 1:01:35
  one and just go to the track and just RIP do.
• 1:01:38
  You ever do you ever have days where you wake up and you miss
• 1:01:40
  the supra? It will always hold a separate
• 1:01:44
  place. There is a special place in my
• 1:01:46
  heart. Yeah, but good riddance, yeah.
• 1:01:48
  That's I feel like that's how it always ends up being Like, you
• 1:01:51
  know, you drive it to the point where it's like, yeah, I'm done.
• 1:01:54
  And you and you kind of never want to see it again.
• 1:01:56
  You know, I'm done. Yep.
• 1:01:57
  I'm good and this thing is like better in every way.
• 1:02:01
  Literally every. Single one.
• 1:02:04
  It had the power. There was maybe that void they
• 1:02:07
  didn't feel like. From the power peak power, but
• 1:02:09
  this thing's got a way better power band.
• 1:02:11
  Sick. So it's got, yeah, more usable
• 1:02:14
  power now. It's got more angle, it's
• 1:02:16
  lighter, better interior. I can't wait.
• 1:02:18
  Now it looks cooler. Drifting this weekend.
• 1:02:21
  I'm excited to see that, see it like.
• 1:02:23
  Yeah, I'm excited to see everybody drifting, dude.
• 1:02:27
  Yeah, yeah, this one, this one's looking like it's going to be.
• 1:02:30
  It's going to be like Jillian. People.
• 1:02:31
  Yeah, You came here last year. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:32
  We were here last. Year, last year for me was there
• 1:02:35
  was like a noticeable step up and a noticeable like.
• 1:02:39
  Driving. Or driving cars.
• 1:02:42
  That was the most spectators they've ever had.
• 1:02:45
  Like it was like, oh wow, this is like really becoming a thing
• 1:02:47
  that people are caring about. Oh yeah, it's been that for a
• 1:02:50
  while. But I know you've been in it for
• 1:02:52
  so long. Yeah, we just felt it last year.
• 1:02:54
  It's just going to be this year it's going to be even more
• 1:02:56
  crazy. I know Simba was telling me that
• 1:02:58
  they've sold way more pre sale tickets this year than they did
• 1:03:01
  last year. Wow.
• 1:03:02
  And so who knows how that will translate to actually day of,
• 1:03:05
  but like it's an indicator. It's going to be crazy for sure.
• 1:03:07
  It's like it's making me think we need to be there on Friday
• 1:03:10
  early to set the shit up the booth and everything it was.
• 1:03:12
  Did you get? Your car ready.
• 1:03:13
  I saw you were like trying. Were you trying to?
• 1:03:16
  Subconsciously, I was a little bit, but then we, we, we were
• 1:03:20
  making a joke, me and my friend, that we were gonna like, finish
• 1:03:23
  it, but then he didn't show up the next day and I was like, all
• 1:03:25
  right. Oh, so it was a joke.
• 1:03:26
  It was kind of a joke. It was, it was way too much work
• 1:03:29
  to get done that fast. So, but I am working on it now,
• 1:03:32
  like consistently. So yeah, I definitely want to
• 1:03:34
  get it finished. It's it's been too long.
• 1:03:36
  It's just too long. Yeah.
• 1:03:37
  How long has it been? Five years in September, yeah.
• 1:03:40
  So I'm like I. Don't know how you do it but I
• 1:03:43
  guess you're a business owner. So, you know, it was.
• 1:03:44
  I just didn't. Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  I just don't even think about it, honestly.
• 1:03:48
  But now I'm thinking about it more and more and I just to be
• 1:03:51
  honest, I just don't want it sitting around like I want to.
• 1:03:53
  I want to drive it. I want to be able to.
• 1:03:55
  I want to be able to drive on the street.
• 1:03:56
  I'm going to finish. That car and people are going to
• 1:03:59
  buy more shit. Yeah, that's what all everyone
• 1:04:01
  says too. So.
• 1:04:02
  Dude, people are tired of hearing the guy that who says he
• 1:04:04
  drifts and that shit's just. Sparked what?
• 1:04:06
  He's going to smell the day that he brings it up.
• 1:04:10
  Yeah, that probably honestly. So interesting is fun.
• 1:04:13
  I miss it dude. I, I, I want.
• 1:04:16
  I just want to, I want to build it because I'm pretty excited
• 1:04:19
  for the next stage of that car's can.
• 1:04:22
  You talk about your plans. So it's it's nothing crazy on
• 1:04:25
  the outside. The outside is I kind of, I
• 1:04:28
  built that car, finally got into a place where I'm like, I really
• 1:04:31
  like how it looks like the color it, it didn't come out how I
• 1:04:34
  wanted, but I like it. So everything is perfect.
• 1:04:38
  And then the motor blue and I was like OK, and I put it on the
• 1:04:41
  back burner and I was like I'll get to it.
• 1:04:42
  And then I just never got to it. And then the shop was the
• 1:04:45
  excuses, Excuses, whatever. Do you know why it blew?
• 1:04:48
  Detonation. But I think I know why.
• 1:04:51
  I think I ran it too hot because when it blew up, I was pushing
• 1:04:56
  it like way further than I ever did.
• 1:04:59
  I was like, it's way too hot right now.
• 1:05:00
  I should stop. And me and Josh, the leaves were
• 1:05:02
  just doing laps and we had like the track to ourselves at
• 1:05:06
  Freedom Moves too. I think it was like a big event.
• 1:05:08
  It was either, yeah, it was Freedom Moves.
• 1:05:09
  It was in September and we actually weren't here for once
• 1:05:12
  because usually Freedom Moves is going on when final bout is.
• 1:05:15
  But we were all there and yeah, I was looking at my temp gauge
• 1:05:18
  and I'm like, it's fucking really hot.
• 1:05:20
  And I'm looking at Josh and I'm like, well, he's driving.
• 1:05:22
  So I guess we have the same engine.
• 1:05:23
  One more run. Yeah, I'm like.
• 1:05:25
  I'm like, it's got to be fine. And then, yeah, fucking blew up
• 1:05:29
  and we took it apart and this fucking piston was completely
• 1:05:32
  melted and everything. I was like, damn, OK, fuck.
• 1:05:35
  And I never really did that to an Sr.
• 1:05:37
  Like the last Sr. that blew up was I spun a rod bearing because
• 1:05:42
  the oil pan broke and I caught it late and I fixed it and drove
• 1:05:46
  home. But the damage was done and
• 1:05:49
  within the next week or two it blew up or had rod knock and
• 1:05:52
  then I just fucking drove it home and blew it up.
• 1:05:54
  But yeah, no, the plans 2.2 stroker, HKS setup.
• 1:05:58
  Yeah. So the engines done.
• 1:05:59
  It's like pretty much ready to go.
• 1:06:01
  I have to finish the Valcar up a little bit and.
• 1:06:02
  Stuff. You bought the HKS components
• 1:06:03
  and put it together. Yeah.
• 1:06:05
  So yeah, JP over in Connecticut is the one who did most of the
• 1:06:08
  machine work. He actually assembled the bottom
• 1:06:11
  end, too, which is weird for me because I usually want to do
• 1:06:13
  that. But I was like, I was like,
• 1:06:15
  you're doing it. I just double checked the stuff
• 1:06:17
  and put it together. Yeah, TDO 6, new gritty TDO 6
• 1:06:21
  setup. So that's cool.
• 1:06:23
  And I think it's the last tubular manifold they really
• 1:06:25
  make cuz now I think they're coming with like log style or
• 1:06:29
  not log style but cast manifolds or something.
• 1:06:32
  So and I didn't want that. Yeah, I wanted to like this.
• 1:06:35
  Is gonna sound, yeah. With the so is.
• 1:06:38
  It do they have like a more modern TDO 6 or?
• 1:06:41
  Is it? They say it is, but like it's
• 1:06:44
  not. It's still journal bearing.
• 1:06:46
  Like it's not even. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's not
• 1:06:48
  even ball bearing like just. New.
• 1:06:50
  They just put like a new they. Put a new badge on it and
• 1:06:52
  they're like. Unused.
• 1:06:53
  They meant. Like it's unused.
• 1:06:54
  They're like, oh, it's an RX series and it.
• 1:06:56
  Worked. Yeah, it actually, I mean, I did
• 1:06:58
  see some Dino sheets on it. Like Josh Elise always sends me
• 1:07:01
  everything because he's like trying to get me to hurry up.
• 1:07:04
  So he'll send me all the video clips and everything and they,
• 1:07:07
  they are good. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:10
  Oh yeah. No, it's fine, definitely, as
• 1:07:12
  long as it's not going to fall towards you.
• 1:07:14
  The way the mics right now is so ghetto.
• 1:07:18
  But yeah, this is. Ghetto set up a receipt.
• 1:07:20
  Thank you. I appreciate it.
• 1:07:22
  But yeah, so I'm pretty stoked on that.
• 1:07:25
  I only had AT28I, never had anything else, so that's cool.
• 1:07:29
  And the wastegate and everything.
• 1:07:30
  The pretty wastegate. I know Simba loves his 22 like
• 1:07:32
  the torque is crazy. Yeah, it's funny.
• 1:07:34
  Like when he got his, I got mine, but his was running and I
• 1:07:37
  was like oh shit, OK, so this is what it's going to be like, but
• 1:07:40
  yeah. I asked Frankie last year
• 1:07:42
  because Simba was driving by and that shit was just barking.
• 1:07:46
  Yeah. And I looked at, I went back to
• 1:07:48
  the booth and I was like, yo, is that bullshit in Simba's car the
• 1:07:52
  same thing that you have? And you're gonna expect us all
• 1:07:54
  to drive with you? Like what's up?
• 1:07:56
  What's? Wrong with you like, but then
• 1:07:58
  you. Got A1J.
• 1:07:58
  Nuts. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:00
  All that, all that to get smoked by my stock 1.
• 1:08:05
  G yeah, I mean 2.2 I have no idea what to expect, but the TDO
• 1:08:08
  6 I know what to expect and it's not that crazy.
• 1:08:10
  So I'm like. It's gonna sound I.
• 1:08:12
  Don't know what the combination is gonna do, but dude, it's
• 1:08:15
  gonna. Be what do you TDO 6 is not
• 1:08:16
  gonna be crazy. To me, I'm just like, it's less
• 1:08:18
  than, it's like modern. TDO 6.
• 1:08:21
  Oh yeah, yeah. So it'll run 10s.
• 1:08:23
  No, yeah, it's just. Gonna be.
• 1:08:25
  Yeah, it's just gonna sound crazy.
• 1:08:27
  It'll be. Great, 10 second.
• 1:08:28
  Card. That's all Frankie cares about.
• 1:08:29
  It's gonna be cool every time we come to final battle.
• 1:08:31
  I like obviously get some some inspiration, but I felt I was
• 1:08:35
  feeling that way before we left. So I'm kind of just trying to
• 1:08:39
  carry the momentum when we come back.
• 1:08:41
  And basically I just got to paint the interior and engine
• 1:08:44
  Bay and then everything can start getting put it in.
• 1:08:46
  So that's the most annoying part.
• 1:08:48
  All the little details of final assembly.
• 1:08:50
  Is yeah, yeah, I'm kind of excited for that, though.
• 1:08:53
  It was more of the like prepping the inside where I was like.
• 1:08:56
  Do you have that like mindset for?
• 1:08:59
  I'm crazy sales and stuff. I'm insane.
• 1:09:00
  I'm. Terrible at.
• 1:09:02
  That yeah, two months to pull the sound deadening out.
• 1:09:04
  Dude, I mean, I was and Lewis. Finished that bitch.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, Lewis was helping a lot towards Yeah the end cleaning
• 1:09:10
  everything up for. Sure, do the dry ice.
• 1:09:13
  We did dry ice, but the driver side was just so baked in from
• 1:09:18
  the heat, I guess, and like banging it up for the downpipe
• 1:09:21
  and everything, like everything is so caked in on that side that
• 1:09:24
  it was not coming up. And then the the back on the
• 1:09:27
  wheel wells never comes off either.
• 1:09:28
  So I started using heat, which I never did for your sound
• 1:09:32
  deadening, but Jimmy Oaks was the one that put me on to that.
• 1:09:35
  He's like get a, get a blow. Torch A.
• 1:09:38
  Heat gun and a scraper and it does peel off but then you're
• 1:09:41
  left with the glue. It's got to be super gooey.
• 1:09:44
  Very gooey. Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  So like we only did that on the areas where we could not get it
• 1:09:47
  off with the dry ice. And then and then Lewis
• 1:09:50
  literally detailed that thing. He got all that.
• 1:09:52
  He scraped everything off with like tar and SAP remover or
• 1:09:55
  something. So yeah, it really, it was a
• 1:09:58
  very time consuming process. And so Lewis was there like
• 1:10:01
  working on it a couple days and he would see me come in and I'd
• 1:10:04
  be like, all right, let's fucking get this shit done.
• 1:10:06
  And I'd start and then I'd be like, fuck, I forgot to do that,
• 1:10:08
  get up and leave. And I was like I said to him at
• 1:10:10
  one point I was like, I'm glad you get to see how fucking
• 1:10:13
  impossible this is. Like there's no fucking way.
• 1:10:16
  So I mean, obviously there's a way I could go on the weekend
• 1:10:18
  and be alone and do it. But like with work and shit,
• 1:10:22
  it's just insane. Trying to do it while I'm at the
• 1:10:24
  shop is not going to happen. So how much weight does that
• 1:10:27
  save? Probably nothing, actually.
• 1:10:29
  You know what it really did? I'm taking it.
• 1:10:32
  Out. If you say nothing, it's like,
• 1:10:33
  well then why did you do it? I did it because I didn't think
• 1:10:35
  I could paint over it and I'm painting the interior.
• 1:10:38
  Oh really? That was the majority of the
• 1:10:39
  reason why I did it. And you said, you said you
• 1:10:42
  didn't think you could, did you? Like you actually can or.
• 1:10:44
  I have no idea. Some people, I think one person
• 1:10:47
  came in and was like you could paint over it and I was like OK,
• 1:10:49
  cuz from the factory it's painted over.
• 1:10:51
  Yeah, but obviously it's not 30 years old.
• 1:10:53
  So the last thing I fucking wanted was to paint my entire
• 1:10:57
  interior. And then it chips off and I'm
• 1:10:59
  like, oh, now we have to prep it all again.
• 1:11:01
  Like I'm not trying to do that. So I just had to make a decision
• 1:11:03
  because I wasn't thinking about it.
• 1:11:05
  Like I would my crazy ass would be thinking about it for months,
• 1:11:08
  but I wasn't. And then it got to the point
• 1:11:09
  where it's like, OK, now we're going to work on the car.
• 1:11:11
  I need to make a decision. And I was like, we're taking it
• 1:11:13
  off. Is it going to be carpeted
• 1:11:14
  anyway? Yeah, I'm going to.
• 1:11:16
  So here we go. Driver's seat forward is going
• 1:11:18
  to be a full interior. Driver's seat back is going to
• 1:11:22
  be, as of right now, it's going to be stripped.
• 1:11:24
  And I'm going to try to make it look as cool as I can make it
• 1:11:26
  look. But that's how I like that.
• 1:11:28
  Yeah. When I look back at the cars in
• 1:11:30
  like early 2000s, those are always my favorite ones, but I
• 1:11:33
  always thought having a full interior was like nicer so I
• 1:11:36
  never did it. You had the best little balance
• 1:11:38
  though. When I first met Frankie, you
• 1:11:40
  would pull the back seats out and you take the back of the.
• 1:11:44
  The back of the backs. On the back.
• 1:11:46
  The carpet. And you just pull the carpet off
• 1:11:48
  and it just. Folds you.
• 1:11:49
  And you drape it down and it made it like but.
• 1:11:51
  Even that bothered me because it was never perfect.
• 1:11:54
  There's gaps. Around I guess it was the best
• 1:11:56
  little hack I ever saw. I.
• 1:11:57
  Was yeah, it is. It is good especially if you're
• 1:11:59
  not crazy like it's you just drop it down and it looks like a
• 1:12:02
  full interior. That like does a big deal for
• 1:12:05
  the sound inside the. Car.
• 1:12:06
  I know that's what I'm worried about.
• 1:12:08
  I'm a little bit worried about it because I obviously love
• 1:12:10
  driving on the street, but I'm like, I don't know, it's the
• 1:12:13
  next iteration of my car. I want to see what it's like.
• 1:12:16
  Well, so on the Supra, I actually bought like a Amazon
• 1:12:19
  sound ending and laid that down and then I put like felt cloth,
• 1:12:25
  OK, all through the the back and like it made a big difference
• 1:12:28
  for sound. Yeah.
• 1:12:29
  And it looked I think like a lot better.
• 1:12:31
  I am. I'm still a ton of exposed
• 1:12:32
  metal, but. I'm open to a lot of ideas.
• 1:12:34
  Right now I'm kind of working it all through.
• 1:12:36
  Like as we're cleaning everything and prepping it, I'm
• 1:12:38
  like, OK, what am I going to do? But like, I think the front I am
• 1:12:40
  going to do is definitely on the firewall.
• 1:12:42
  I'm doing sound ending, some kind of sound ending under the
• 1:12:46
  carpet. I don't know yet.
• 1:12:47
  I might try to do something else that's removable.
• 1:12:50
  I've heard of some things. So I don't know because there's
• 1:12:52
  a lot of OEM foam that's usually under there and now it's like
• 1:12:55
  gone. Yeah, I would.
• 1:12:57
  I would probably suggest putting.
• 1:12:59
  Something. Some like, I mean the sound
• 1:13:01
  ending on Amazon, like I'm sure it's not as good as like
• 1:13:03
  Dynamite name brand and they have like all these different
• 1:13:05
  thicknesses and shit, but just like if you just do something
• 1:13:08
  makes it way more yeah. I was you mentioned Amazon sound
• 1:13:12
  deadening and immediately my roommate did the same exact
• 1:13:15
  thing, bought the little roller thing.
• 1:13:17
  Yeah, and it worked. Another thing I'm considering
• 1:13:19
  doing, which is kind of different for me, I'm sure
• 1:13:21
  people have done. I know Jimmy Oakes has done it.
• 1:13:24
  He gave me the idea, kind of. We've been using Raptor liner
• 1:13:28
  for like underneath the cars. Yeah, he's been doing it.
• 1:13:31
  I saw. That on Tom's build.
• 1:13:32
  He started using it. Dude, I did it on one of our
• 1:13:35
  customer cars and I really like it.
• 1:13:37
  I haven't tested it in drifting yet, but I asked Jimmy.
• 1:13:40
  I was like, what is it like to repair this?
• 1:13:42
  He's like, it's totally fine. He's like, you just sand that
• 1:13:44
  area a little bit, spray it, done.
• 1:13:46
  It's like everything matches. I actually did that on the
• 1:13:48
  interior of the supra on the floor.
• 1:13:50
  Oh, OK, so that leads you to what I'm going to say.
• 1:13:52
  It wasn't Raptor liner, I don't remember what brand it was, but
• 1:13:55
  like just in the spray can from the store and like it worked
• 1:13:58
  really good. Like it did scratch a little bit
• 1:14:01
  over time. Like considering I had it for 10
• 1:14:04
  years and didn't try to keep. Care of it.
• 1:14:07
  It worked really well. So Jimmy did I.
• 1:14:10
  Didn't do shit for prep either because I do not have a detailed
• 1:14:13
  mindset at all. OK, I.
• 1:14:14
  Hate that stuff. OK, yeah, So Jimmy had it in
• 1:14:18
  the, I think the E36 or one of his BMWs.
• 1:14:21
  He said he tinted it. Raptor liner can be tinted.
• 1:14:23
  So he tinted it and sprayed it. And I was like, this would be
• 1:14:26
  really good for the whole back area, spare tire area, because
• 1:14:30
  then I could actually put things in here and not have a panic
• 1:14:33
  attack. But I'm going to destroy this
• 1:14:34
  paint job. So I was like, maybe we could
• 1:14:36
  tint it the silver that I'm going to paint it and spray
• 1:14:39
  Raptor liner just on the pan area.
• 1:14:41
  So that's another idea, too. Yeah.
• 1:14:42
  We're just like trying to experiment, I guess.
• 1:14:44
  I'll probably spray a piece of metal and see how it comes out.
• 1:14:47
  But. But yeah.
• 1:14:48
  And then everything else will just be paint matched up top.
• 1:14:52
  But yeah, I don't know. That's cool.
• 1:14:54
  OEM carpet. Yes, if I can do.
• 1:14:58
  Actually I think I have it already because I've been like
• 1:15:00
  collecting some stuff and the what?
• 1:15:02
  My favorite carpet for that car is chooky.
• 1:15:06
  So 91 to 94 and spray it black. What's different about it?
• 1:15:12
  The 89 to 90 is like that tweed material and mine is 89, so the
• 1:15:17
  carpet in that is just really old.
• 1:15:19
  It's. Like an 80s.
• 1:15:20
  It's like the fluffy material is the it's.
• 1:15:22
  Like it's kind of like a door car.
• 1:15:24
  Yeah, the new, the newer 1. Is like the newer 1 is fluffier.
• 1:15:26
  Yeah, it's like a normal carpet and you'd see in a car.
• 1:15:29
  So that's that's nicer. But once you spray it with
• 1:15:32
  paint, it's fucking, it doesn't feel that smooth anymore, but
• 1:15:34
  it's like no one's touching your carpet.
• 1:15:35
  So it just looks better. Did you see Simba's carpet?
• 1:15:39
  Not good you. Just got blue.
• 1:15:41
  Oh really? Flush.
• 1:15:42
  Carpet. That's cool.
• 1:15:43
  So good. Yeah, it's.
• 1:15:44
  Crazy like blue and yellow accents everywhere.
• 1:15:47
  That's cool. I love it.
• 1:15:48
  I was looking at, so you guys, we we got here late last night,
• 1:15:50
  but we saw your cars and everything and I was like, I'm
• 1:15:52
  not looking at them until I see them in the day because I want
• 1:15:54
  to see all the details and everything, you know, especially
• 1:15:56
  what's his face, his car. Aaron from Fucking Dude, Yeah.
• 1:16:00
  I looked at that thing and that I was actually just about to
• 1:16:02
  bring that up because he's got exactly what you're talking
• 1:16:05
  about, where like the whole driver compartment is the
• 1:16:09
  fullest of interiors. OK, it's.
• 1:16:11
  Totally extra. Everything's super, you know,
• 1:16:14
  he's got like the leather wrapped dash and everything's
• 1:16:16
  perfect. And then I look behind the seats
• 1:16:19
  and like it's just totally stripped.
• 1:16:21
  But like, because his driver compartment is so over the top,
• 1:16:26
  you don't even, like, think about what's behind the scenes.
• 1:16:28
  Yeah, I like had to consciously like.
• 1:16:30
  And I'm sure the paint is like nice back there too, because
• 1:16:32
  they're crazy. It was, yeah.
• 1:16:35
  It just looked like a stripped. Into all their fucking paint
• 1:16:38
  jobs are always just like perfect.
• 1:16:39
  So like in his trunk. It's crazy.
• 1:16:42
  I got to see his trunk. Take a look at his trunk.
• 1:16:44
  They like he did. The little grinder thing and
• 1:16:47
  then candied over it. Oh yeah.
• 1:16:48
  Yeah, yeah. So then I was, it's just that
• 1:16:51
  every panel and every little thing has a spin on it.
• 1:16:54
  So I'm like, damn, dude, he he. Vinyled the door.
• 1:16:58
  The door. Jams to match the skirt.
• 1:17:00
  I was like. Yeah, did you see the little
• 1:17:02
  eyeball in the combat high in the headlight?
• 1:17:04
  Oh, no, I missed that one. You got to check that out.
• 1:17:06
  See, there's I bet you there's so many of those little.
• 1:17:08
  Little Easter eggs in there. Like I just, I don't know, I see
• 1:17:12
  that and I'm like, fuck, I have all these little ideas that I
• 1:17:14
  want to do and like maybe one day that they'll happen and
• 1:17:17
  somebody will say the same shit about my car.
• 1:17:20
  That'd be cool. Even, like Polymer's interior
• 1:17:22
  has been really bad. Yeah, like, it'll be the first
• 1:17:26
  one to tell you. And I looked at it at what was
• 1:17:28
  it yesterday, right? And it's really nice inside now,
• 1:17:31
  Like he put a lot of work into. That thing and it's weird,
• 1:17:33
  'cause people are doing it kind of a final ball.
• 1:17:35
  He said it was. He's like, I'm not, we're not,
• 1:17:37
  I'm not like causing us, our team to lose final ball because
• 1:17:40
  of my interior. Yeah, the way the way they're
• 1:17:42
  judging final ballot with the interior car score or car score
• 1:17:46
  like a car show. And then the driving is perfect
• 1:17:49
  because it really gets everyone to bring a nice car, which is
• 1:17:53
  one of the biggest problems for events because people will bring
• 1:17:56
  the oh, this is a nice car event, like a nice drift event.
• 1:17:58
  You got to bring a nice car, but it's like you're just forcing
• 1:18:01
  them to do it. You're telling them they have to
• 1:18:03
  do it. But final bout is like putting
• 1:18:05
  it in the rules. So it's like you need to have a
• 1:18:07
  nice well. Almost like, so usually when you
• 1:18:09
  put them in the rules, it's like you have to have all your
• 1:18:12
  bumpers on. Yeah, that's a pretty low bar.
• 1:18:14
  Yes. But when you say like, we're
• 1:18:15
  going to actively judge what you bring and it's going to be
• 1:18:19
  combined with your driving now, it's like, OK, you don't have to
• 1:18:23
  put anything in the rules. It's like everybody knows what
• 1:18:25
  to do to make their car. And if you're, if you're the
• 1:18:28
  person on your team that didn't and that try to make it nice or
• 1:18:31
  something, then it's like, OK, now you, you guys could
• 1:18:34
  potentially lose because one person has a ratty interior or
• 1:18:36
  some shit. And then and I judged a couple
• 1:18:39
  like of the special stages and that gives you a totally
• 1:18:42
  different like into what what the judges are looking at.
• 1:18:47
  Like you never really think about having the eye of a judge.
• 1:18:50
  You just kind of have like the eye of.
• 1:18:51
  Yourself. But it's totally different
• 1:18:54
  mindset. That's interesting.
• 1:18:55
  I never really thought about the fact that when you're judging
• 1:18:57
  it, you have to kind of like not, not like put your best foot
• 1:19:01
  now, yeah, but you're putting your best foot forward, but
• 1:19:03
  you're also like trying to hold yourself to like, you got to
• 1:19:06
  hold the other cars to that standard.
• 1:19:07
  Yeah, yeah, I know that like all the other judges are going to be
• 1:19:09
  thinking the same thing might be.
• 1:19:10
  And it's like you need to be we're, we're not looking at is
• 1:19:14
  it a nice drift car? It's like, is it a good show
• 1:19:17
  car, which is a totally different standard?
• 1:19:20
  And then you have to go drive it.
• 1:19:22
  Yeah, I know for a fact that there's some people out there
• 1:19:27
  who groan and moan about the fact that it's like, oh, it's
• 1:19:30
  all, it's just about like the style aspect.
• 1:19:33
  It's like people that come or. No, just people who you can't
• 1:19:37
  fucking come. OK, Yeah.
• 1:19:39
  Because then it's like, what are we talking about?
• 1:19:40
  It it it's the ones who like, it's the ones.
• 1:19:42
  Who say people that complain about like like all all they
• 1:19:45
  care about is how the. It's the style aspect.
• 1:19:46
  Like they don't really. They don't really, oh, I'm
• 1:19:49
  coming, I'm coming and I'm stroking.
• 1:19:53
  But it's the ones who like complain about.
• 1:19:57
  And I know I just argued about this in my group chat, that's
• 1:20:01
  why I'm putting it in here. There's ones who complain about
• 1:20:04
  the fact that it's like, oh, all they care about is the style.
• 1:20:07
  Like the driving ain't even really that hard.
• 1:20:09
  OK, style your car up. Yeah.
• 1:20:12
  Make your car look good then. Yeah, it doesn't have.
• 1:20:14
  To be how about, how about you fucking try a little bit, Yeah?
• 1:20:17
  Or maybe you don't be a fucking retard and make your car ugly.
• 1:20:21
  Yeah, yeah. That's what I am like, OK, they
• 1:20:24
  can just go complain about. That I usually like, like, yeah,
• 1:20:27
  there's always that. There's always like 2.
• 1:20:29
  There was always two sides, like people that care about how the
• 1:20:31
  cars look versus people that don't and this and that.
• 1:20:33
  Yeah. To me, I'm just like, if they
• 1:20:35
  show any interest at all, I'm like, all right, come out.
• 1:20:38
  Like come with us to this event and just experience it.
• 1:20:41
  Yeah. By the time they get home,
• 1:20:43
  things are a lot different. Yeah, I mean, definitely.
• 1:20:45
  I know like the early final bouts, the driving was it was
• 1:20:48
  still good for the time and now you're watching.
• 1:20:51
  You're like, now I get why everyone's talking shit.
• 1:20:53
  I never. Cared about that shit honestly,
• 1:20:55
  but that's. How the level is just like it's
• 1:20:57
  the most beautiful car is doing the hardest driving.
• 1:21:00
  Yeah, it's crazy. So sick.
• 1:21:03
  Yeah, I would say by find about 3 or 4, it was like the tide has
• 1:21:07
  shifted. Yeah, so.
• 1:21:09
  And now it's crazy. Do you Simon stuff?
• 1:21:11
  There's one right here. So I was like Jesus.
• 1:21:14
  It's basically the winter hobby, yeah.
• 1:21:16
  Oh yeah. That so that's and you not a lot
• 1:21:19
  of your other team mates do they like Josh does not I.
• 1:21:22
  Don't know if Simba does Chaub and Simba have one.
• 1:21:26
  Simba does it. He says he does it like pretty
• 1:21:30
  often, but he'll just get on by himself, drive for like 30 to 60
• 1:21:34
  minutes and get off. Chaub hasn't used his very
• 1:21:38
  often. And then and I'll go on there
• 1:21:41
  like I'll just get into like this phase where like for a
• 1:21:43
  month or two, it'll be like 3-4 hours a day on that.
• 1:21:47
  I feel like that's you. Yeah, right.
• 1:21:49
  Every other night just fucking on there for at least an hour.
• 1:21:52
  But the worst part is like, and this is what I miss about
• 1:21:55
  console gaming like Forza and stuff.
• 1:21:58
  I feel like every time I get on that thing, it's 30 to 60
• 1:22:01
  minutes of troubleshooting and figuring out what the Hell's
• 1:22:03
  going on. And then I get to drive and
• 1:22:06
  it's. It's so frustrating.
• 1:22:07
  That's me with any video game, so I just gave up.
• 1:22:09
  For the simming the SIM thing I played it on VR which is even
• 1:22:12
  worse. It's another.
• 1:22:13
  Yeah, it's and you're right, it's another thing to go around
• 1:22:15
  outlet of. Error that can happen for sure,
• 1:22:18
  but now I have I have it down to science.
• 1:22:20
  OK, so the wire is a good 60% of the error like the the cable.
• 1:22:27
  I like to buy the cheap Amazon ones 'cause you could get them
• 1:22:30
  for like 20 bucks. But the Amazon one that you need
• 1:22:34
  is the one that has the power like plug yeah like another
• 1:22:38
  secondary. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:40
  Because oh wait, are you saying like it actually plugs into the
• 1:22:43
  wall as well? Yeah, like you take like Ausb
• 1:22:46
  and plug it into the cable as well.
• 1:22:49
  There's like a little port for it and you plug it into the
• 1:22:50
  wall. So it's plugged into the wall
• 1:22:51
  and your headset. OK.
• 1:22:53
  That for some reason will make the headset run at a way better
• 1:22:57
  rate than it was because now it's not drawing power from the
• 1:23:01
  whatever. I I, at least in my opinion, I
• 1:23:02
  think this is what's happening. It makes sense, yeah.
• 1:23:04
  But now I have it where I put it on the the software says that
• 1:23:10
  it'll automatically connect to Oculus Quest or whatever the The
• 1:23:14
  thing is and the content manager, a set of courses is set
• 1:23:18
  to whatever that is and if it doesn't work in the 1st 10
• 1:23:20
  minutes I just. Get off, yeah.
• 1:23:23
  I don't even try. And then maybe you'll come back
• 1:23:25
  the next day. It'll.
• 1:23:26
  Just work and it'll just work. And I'm like, what the fuck did
• 1:23:28
  I just do? Yeah.
• 1:23:29
  And yeah, but it's always hours now because if I am on there and
• 1:23:33
  I'm like having a good time on there, I'm not getting sick.
• 1:23:36
  You know, I have a I'm, I'm, I'm partaking in some of the hobbies
• 1:23:39
  that I like before I get on. And like, especially in the
• 1:23:43
  winter when I got nothing else going on, you just jump on with
• 1:23:45
  some friends. Yeah, dude.
• 1:23:47
  And we, we saw you got the heater in here, so that's cool.
• 1:23:49
  Yeah. Definitely, yeah, keep it warm
• 1:23:51
  in here. All you're hearing in here is
• 1:23:53
  the wheel just going like just just just again and again and
• 1:23:57
  again. Like Oh my God, winter acetoing
• 1:24:00
  is so fun because you know no one else can do.
• 1:24:02
  Anything that was a big so like that and final bout was a big
• 1:24:05
  reason I got it because it was one of the last events that
• 1:24:09
  animal style drove and like I'm a total animal style fanboy
• 1:24:12
  like. I think I am too.
• 1:24:13
  They're like really good friends, but they're also like
• 1:24:16
  fucking my idols way up here and they they drove final bout like
• 1:24:21
  they did really good. And then our winter sets in and
• 1:24:25
  I see they're like still going to events and I was like, this
• 1:24:28
  isn't fair. Where's my?
• 1:24:29
  Where's your? Offseason.
• 1:24:31
  Bro. And so then I was like, well,
• 1:24:34
  and like the technology was just getting good enough to get to
• 1:24:37
  get useful. And so then I got it.
• 1:24:39
  And yeah, it helps so much. Dude I love it, my SIM setup is
• 1:24:43
  not good it's really old. I have a Logitech G25, the first
• 1:24:48
  one after the driving force, which was like this blue one,
• 1:24:53
  like I was my Grand Turismo 3 on that thing like and then I went
• 1:24:57
  to college, pulled it out while I was in college after I don't
• 1:25:00
  know how long it's been sitting and then it's been with me ever
• 1:25:02
  since my SIM drive's so. Shitty Jay-Z of.
• 1:25:07
  Of steering wheel. It's shitty, just continue.
• 1:25:09
  To work. But here's the reason why I like
• 1:25:10
  it. Shitty though because then when
• 1:25:12
  I get into my car, my car feels amazing compared to that thing.
• 1:25:17
  You're you're scared if your if your SIM setup was too good, you
• 1:25:20
  just might not. It was.
• 1:25:21
  Good for a little while. You might not it.
• 1:25:23
  Broke. I had a thrust master.
• 1:25:25
  Is that a thrust master? Well.
• 1:25:26
  That sounds. Crazy.
• 1:25:26
  Oh, that's a fan attack Thrust. Yeah, you would.
• 1:25:29
  That's that's the wheel you would buy.
• 1:25:30
  That's crazy, is you? Thrust master, Yeah.
• 1:25:34
  I don't know. Yeah, Frankie's.
• 1:25:37
  You don't even have to tell people you're getting on the
• 1:25:39
  game. You just want to say I'm getting
• 1:25:40
  on the thrust master real quick. After hours with the
• 1:25:43
  Thrustmaster. Yeah, I bought all this nice
• 1:25:45
  shit. I bought a handbrake.
• 1:25:47
  Instead of me using the button on the Logitech, I bought a
• 1:25:50
  Thrustmaster and. I'm sorry.
• 1:25:53
  Yeah, I've been saying I'm just gonna keep.
• 1:25:54
  It's called ATM. No, because it actually the
• 1:25:58
  wheel model. Is thrust daddy TM?
• 1:26:00
  Thrust Daddy TM Oh really what is it?
• 1:26:04
  But it broke after a month and it was sick because now instead
• 1:26:07
  of me hearing the wheels spinning around the IT the the
• 1:26:11
  was quiet. So now VR headphones,
• 1:26:15
  everything, like I'm really immersed in it and like it broke
• 1:26:19
  back to the Logitech. And I was like, I'm.
• 1:26:21
  Never buying that again. Like just people are spending
• 1:26:25
  thousands of dollars on the setup.
• 1:26:28
  And that's when I think in my head, I'm like, that's the
• 1:26:30
  person who should be saying I could get into some real
• 1:26:33
  drifting now. And that's what I don't get.
• 1:26:35
  And like, I'm not trying to take away like if, if SIM driving is
• 1:26:38
  like your thing, it's whatever. But like I don't get that.
• 1:26:42
  Like, why would you spend thousands of dollars to do the
• 1:26:45
  simulation when you can spend thousands of dollars to do the
• 1:26:48
  real thing? I mean, it's definitely easier
• 1:26:50
  to just jump in and get it done. I think they'll probably just
• 1:26:53
  complain about money and say it's cheaper in a way, which I'm
• 1:26:55
  sure it is, but. On a longevity standpoint, but
• 1:26:59
  OK. So just judging by if that
• 1:27:02
  person is going to hop out of that hobby anyway, like let's
• 1:27:04
  say you're in SIM drifting for three years, the longevity of
• 1:27:08
  you drifting a car, a car for three years and not breaking
• 1:27:13
  anything, the likelihood of that is pretty unlikely.
• 1:27:17
  Yeah, that. Yeah, that's for damn sure.
• 1:27:21
  But that like it, it still doesn't make sense to me 'cause
• 1:27:25
  I'm like, you spent thousands of dollars and you're done with the
• 1:27:29
  hobby anyway. Like you, you could have just.
• 1:27:31
  I guess I'm I'm very biased on that.
• 1:27:34
  I feel the same way. I I dude, when that started that
• 1:27:37
  when that started happening and my friend, not even Sims, dude,
• 1:27:41
  video games like they're start playing video games and the and
• 1:27:43
  the RC cars, they'd be dumping all their money in this my
• 1:27:46
  friend. I'm like, what are you guys
• 1:27:48
  doing? OK, well, that's.
• 1:27:49
  A regular Forza though, I learned.
• 1:27:51
  Forza 4, yes, My favorite one dude.
• 1:27:53
  Yeah, there was 1 winter, like the first winter it came out.
• 1:27:57
  That's like all we would do every day.
• 1:27:58
  My friends would come over and we'd play Fuji Makaito.
• 1:28:01
  Yeah. All.
• 1:28:02
  Day. We did the same shit.
• 1:28:04
  And I swear like I had a noticeable noticeably better
• 1:28:07
  tandem the next season after that.
• 1:28:09
  I agree, dude. That's when I really started
• 1:28:12
  using the handbrake was in Forza 4.
• 1:28:14
  I was like, oh, I got it. I was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:28:16
  I was like, so this is how this works and I could like extend
• 1:28:19
  the turn if I was in a bad spot or something.
• 1:28:22
  I was like, oh, OK. Or the pressing the clutch in if
• 1:28:26
  you're about to spin out to like stop the rotating.
• 1:28:28
  That's where I learned that from.
• 1:28:29
  Just it's. Crazy that that video game was
• 1:28:31
  so like realistic but then. So many cars too.
• 1:28:35
  That never. Came back in another or was it
• 1:28:37
  ever again? And you can modify them just
• 1:28:39
  enough like you can make them look like drift cars.
• 1:28:41
  Yeah, you can. There's good enough.
• 1:28:42
  Yeah, it was fine. The lobbies, the online lobbies
• 1:28:45
  for that shit was insane. I mean, I'll still.
• 1:28:47
  I never had Xbox Live, but I would go to my friends that
• 1:28:49
  game's. Sick like I I would if I had it
• 1:28:52
  Actually, I think we do have it. We're going to set it up in the
• 1:28:54
  shot we're redoing like the waiting areas, the.
• 1:28:56
  Sound files were good in that game, not like Gran Turismo
• 1:28:59
  where everything was just like the standard wing.
• 1:29:02
  Yeah. Like grants?
• 1:29:03
  Were those sounds or not? The graphics and grants weren't
• 1:29:05
  better though. Yeah, did.
• 1:29:07
  You get any questions? Did you put a prompt or?
• 1:29:10
  I did, actually, yeah. We do the.
• 1:29:12
  Question. I forgot about that.
• 1:29:13
  I actually forgot I. Even did that, we do still have
• 1:29:15
  to. I know today's.
• 1:29:17
  Set up and clean up. Yeah, he's just casually having
• 1:29:20
  a lot of people here before we do this or after we do this
• 1:29:23
  podcast. So like.
• 1:29:24
  Having a crazy party is. Having a bar?
• 1:29:26
  Yeah, yeah. Let's do a podcast real quick.
• 1:29:28
  Yeah, and I do. Tom's texting me that he wants
• 1:29:30
  to bring his car into my driveway because he thinks he
• 1:29:33
  broke something. So now we gotta work on his car
• 1:29:35
  in the driveway. No, no, no, no, no.
• 1:29:37
  Don't let Tom. Don't let Tom.
• 1:29:38
  Come here. Is he coming here now?
• 1:29:41
  No, not now. Oh my word.
• 1:29:43
  Tom ruins everything, even states away we.
• 1:29:45
  Get to all just like make fun of him while he's laying on the
• 1:29:48
  ground in pain. That's it.
• 1:29:49
  It's going to be fun. Yeah.
• 1:29:51
  I actually have been real nice with Tom this trip.
• 1:29:54
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:54
  You got until he liked every one of my stories last night at 2:35
• 1:29:58
  in the morning. I showed you that, right?
• 1:29:59
  That's nice he's supporting you. Yeah, but like it was within a
• 1:30:04
  has to be like a 5 second period.
• 1:30:06
  So he's just. I would love to get into your
• 1:30:10
  drifting history and everything but I know we don't have that
• 1:30:11
  much time but I want you to explain what D Corp is cuz I
• 1:30:14
  know you've been doing. This thing.
• 1:30:18
  I mean, it's just, it's my brand, the simplest way to put
• 1:30:20
  it, but I'm trying to focus on helping newcomers to like get
• 1:30:24
  over any of the anxiety or like I get really frustrated when I
• 1:30:27
  hear people talk about how they hate working on cars.
• 1:30:29
  And like I see people quit drifting or motorsport in
• 1:30:32
  general because they don't like working on cars.
• 1:30:35
  And I think that's a mindset thing instead of like they
• 1:30:38
  actually don't like the mechanical piece of it.
• 1:30:41
  So like that's why I came out with like the gloves as example
• 1:30:43
  was like I when I started using gloves.
• 1:30:47
  It makes it like more enjoyable because like I have better grip
• 1:30:51
  on everything. I'm not going into the house
• 1:30:53
  like my hands are covered and shit.
• 1:30:54
  And like it just for me, having the right tools and everything
• 1:30:58
  makes it so much easier to enjoyable to work in a car.
• 1:31:01
  So like I'm trying to bring that and now I'm getting into doing
• 1:31:04
  drift schools. Like I've been on my webinar.
• 1:31:07
  I did my first in person, like full day, half classroom, half
• 1:31:11
  on the skin pad. Yeah, I saw that.
• 1:31:13
  That was like that went really well.
• 1:31:15
  That's let's. See, I got overbooked it when I
• 1:31:20
  was planning on having only 10 people.
• 1:31:22
  Like I was hoping for 10 Max of 20 and I got 22 and yeah,
• 1:31:28
  there's way a lot of demand. All the feedback was like really
• 1:31:32
  amazing. So do people bring their own
• 1:31:34
  cars or they kind of just like like how does it go?
• 1:31:37
  Like how? How did that first one?
• 1:31:38
  Yeah, yeah. No, they you have to bring your
• 1:31:40
  own car. I'm not getting into that and I
• 1:31:42
  don't know if I ever. Yeah, like rental cars.
• 1:31:44
  Yeah, 'cause I want people that are like invested in this and
• 1:31:47
  actually want to drive. That makes.
• 1:31:49
  Sense they took the first step at least.
• 1:31:51
  Yeah. So yeah, they bring their own
• 1:31:53
  car, do very basic tech. And then I've been working on
• 1:31:59
  this webinar from or like the, the content of it, I guess the
• 1:32:02
  classroom for like 5 years because we've been doing club Fr
• 1:32:08
  DA1O ones. And originally it was just like,
• 1:32:12
  OK, we have instructors on staff so sign up and like they're here
• 1:32:16
  to help you. And I was like, I don't think
• 1:32:17
  that's enough. Like I because I've done some
• 1:32:20
  different schools over the years and that and I'm like, I really
• 1:32:22
  like classroom and learning theory and everything and then
• 1:32:25
  go act it out. So I told somebody I was like,
• 1:32:27
  let me do like a one hour classroom in the in the
• 1:32:29
  beginning and then it just kind of snowballed to there where now
• 1:32:33
  it's like a 3/4 hour. It makes you feel like you're
• 1:32:35
  getting more for your money too when you just like a classroom
• 1:32:37
  aspect. I tried to make it really
• 1:32:39
  professional like we got like a check in tent, we got water on
• 1:32:42
  hit water and like we brought doughnuts and coffee.
• 1:32:44
  Like huge help for my wife to like make it hospital
• 1:32:47
  hospitable. Event Heck yeah, dude, I was, I
• 1:32:49
  was about to say like that. It sounds like it just needs
• 1:32:51
  that little. And then there it was like it
• 1:32:53
  was like that extra bit of Polish.
• 1:32:55
  Because now I'm hearing this and I'm like, if you showed up and
• 1:33:00
  saw that, people would hopefully take it a little bit more
• 1:33:03
  seriously and like maybe try to apply the things that you're
• 1:33:06
  learning in the classroom because it isn't like just some
• 1:33:08
  little experience that you just signed up for.
• 1:33:11
  Like this is like an intensive course it sounds like, at least.
• 1:33:15
  And it, it seems to be like, I think kind of to your point,
• 1:33:17
  like it seems to attract a certain crowd that like they
• 1:33:20
  were just all like wide eyed the whole 3 hours in the classroom
• 1:33:24
  asking great, great questions engaged.
• 1:33:26
  Like it attracts the crowd that like I hoped that it would,
• 1:33:29
  that's. Cool.
• 1:33:31
  And then bringing their own cars too.
• 1:33:33
  Sorry Frankie is good just because.
• 1:33:34
  Like if you see something wrong with it, you can tell them and
• 1:33:38
  hopefully it would be something that they would maybe address
• 1:33:40
  for sure. Like, and that's what I'm trying
• 1:33:41
  to do, like even on like Instagram, like if somebody hits
• 1:33:44
  me up, like I try to take the time to like reply with, like
• 1:33:49
  with helping them with whatever they need because I know like as
• 1:33:51
  you're getting up and coming, like you don't know what you're
• 1:33:54
  doing. And like I came up when there
• 1:33:56
  was no social media, there was forums, which was super helpful,
• 1:33:59
  but there was definitely people that like I tried to ask for
• 1:34:02
  help and they didn't want to spend the time to help.
• 1:34:06
  Me. And like, that's, I get it too
• 1:34:08
  because like, dude, it takes so much time.
• 1:34:09
  And then, like, sometimes I'm worried about almost like,
• 1:34:12
  coming off as a jerk or like, you know, is this guy actually
• 1:34:15
  asking for help? Or does he just, like, telling
• 1:34:17
  me his problem and I'm just supposed to say like, yeah, that
• 1:34:19
  sucks. Yeah, true.
• 1:34:21
  Yeah, that is a thing too. So yeah, just trying to help the
• 1:34:25
  outer comers basically. Yeah, that's cool.
• 1:34:27
  Where are you doing it? USA?
• 1:34:29
  This. Is the office right?
• 1:34:30
  Here this is nice. No, at Great Lakes Dragway,
• 1:34:33
  that's where we had our first one.
• 1:34:34
  But actually next weekend US Air is doing a one O 1 separate from
• 1:34:40
  D Corp, but the track manager reached out to me to do the
• 1:34:42
  classroom session. So I'm going to go up there and
• 1:34:44
  do the classroom for the first few hours of that.
• 1:34:46
  Oh cool. So awesome and I'd like to start
• 1:34:49
  like travelling and kind of doing.
• 1:34:51
  That's what I was thinking too, yeah.
• 1:34:52
  Like you could like come to another track and.
• 1:34:55
  I know I've talked to Jimmy at Texas.
• 1:34:59
  So they they have a great facility with a lot of new guys.
• 1:35:02
  Yeah, I mean, East Coast already has East Coast Thrift School, so
• 1:35:05
  that's taken, but. But maybe, yeah, I mean, Chris
• 1:35:08
  is awesome. Like I'm sure you guys could do
• 1:35:11
  something. Together Conference.
• 1:35:12
  Well, that does seem, I don't know, I don't know much about
• 1:35:15
  it, but that seems more of like the arrive and drive.
• 1:35:17
  Kind of it it much it much more is like that.
• 1:35:19
  That's why I was like, I think you guys could do something.
• 1:35:21
  You have the classroom aspect and I feel like the way that
• 1:35:25
  Chris teaches, it's usually one-on-one.
• 1:35:29
  So it's not like a group of people.
• 1:35:32
  He'll really sit there and like with the one person, just go
• 1:35:36
  like, yo, you're you're entering kind of weird here, but try
• 1:35:39
  this, Maybe try that. Like it's a very personable
• 1:35:42
  experience. And that's why I'll always tell
• 1:35:44
  somebody like if you want to get into drifting, really just go,
• 1:35:47
  go, go, go reach out there that, that you can't really do
• 1:35:50
  anything better than that in our area.
• 1:35:51
  My first thing is always go to club, loose and suffer like
• 1:35:54
  everyone else did. But if they don't, yeah.
• 1:35:57
  But if they don't want to do that, then yeah, then that's
• 1:36:00
  the. That's the other option.
• 1:36:02
  Did we get anything? Oh yeah, let me check those.
• 1:36:04
  I didn't even look up the damn. Dude, I'll be hanging out here
• 1:36:07
  all day. I know, but I want to make sure
• 1:36:08
  that we set this up like because we.
• 1:36:10
  Still have time? Yeah, well, it's 5:00 and.
• 1:36:14
  Well, what happens is sometimes if we get these questions, these
• 1:36:16
  questions end up taking a while too.
• 1:36:18
  But The thing is, is I don't know about you, but if I have
• 1:36:21
  company over, I need to be like I just I'm assuming we would
• 1:36:25
  have we would we got to clean this all up.
• 1:36:27
  No, they're not. They're.
• 1:36:28
  Not really in the garage. OK, OK, I mean a little bit,
• 1:36:31
  but. And the other thing was too.
• 1:36:32
  Just general is everything OK out there and stuff?
• 1:36:34
  OK, All right, good. OK, I didn't even I posted this
• 1:36:38
  like 30 minutes before we got in here or less so there's not many
• 1:36:41
  questions, but we'll what is this?
• 1:36:46
  Oh my God I try to read these before I start talking but this
• 1:36:50
  one didn't work out. Will D Corp ever offer a little
• 1:36:53
  D glove for bedroom tandems? No God.
• 1:36:58
  Way. Bro hey man, if I got to make a
• 1:37:00
  class for the bedroom I mean. Yeah, that was from Jerk Seven O
• 1:37:04
  5. Jerk seven O 5 is.
• 1:37:06
  Incredible. Yep.
• 1:37:08
  What's your predictions on final bout the competition I have?
• 1:37:12
  No idea the the competition is so fierce.
• 1:37:15
  Like I know last year top 4 was really difficult to get into.
• 1:37:21
  Like there was some really good teams that didn't make it in the
• 1:37:24
  top four and now I think we have more than four really good teams
• 1:37:29
  so. Guys, that's so many, dude,
• 1:37:32
  Yeah. I don't really know what the
• 1:37:34
  hell to expect. To be honest.
• 1:37:35
  Dude, I mean, I wouldn't like of course, like we're really trying
• 1:37:38
  to to. Win and do the.
• 1:37:40
  Repeat. But I would not be surprised if
• 1:37:42
  we don't make it like, well, the competition is so damn fierce.
• 1:37:46
  We can tell you one thing, Front Street is trying to win this
• 1:37:49
  thing. Yeah.
• 1:37:50
  So yeah, that's definitely one of the biggest competitors, I
• 1:37:53
  would say. But you, your cars are looking.
• 1:37:55
  I think you guys got the car show aspect down for sure.
• 1:37:58
  But they brought the heat for car show too.
• 1:38:00
  Yeah, they did. Yeah, the cars are looking good.
• 1:38:02
  I mean, yeah. Tom's car looked video game like
• 1:38:05
  last night like it. When it was standing there, I
• 1:38:08
  was like, what the hell am I? Looking yeah, the cars are
• 1:38:11
  clean. Tom's is literally a brand new
• 1:38:13
  car and Josh's is pretty much the same.
• 1:38:16
  I think he changed a couple little things, but it's not,
• 1:38:19
  it's not destroyed, so that's good.
• 1:38:20
  The one disadvantage they have is only three cars.
• 1:38:23
  Yeah, it's hard. Like, you get basically more
• 1:38:26
  like bonus points if you're multiple cars.
• 1:38:28
  OK, so to win with three cars, you got to be like perfect line
• 1:38:32
  touching each other. Around see that's what Josh was
• 1:38:34
  telling me last night. He's like, I think it's I think
• 1:38:36
  the one thing is going to be that we have three cars and I
• 1:38:38
  was like, yeah, but that's going to be the weight user to put
• 1:38:41
  those take that into account. Yeah, yeah, that's if they're
• 1:38:43
  taking that into account, then yeah, it's going to be harder.
• 1:38:46
  But I was like, you guys are going to be way more consistent
• 1:38:48
  with three of you and the and the three that always drive
• 1:38:50
  together, you know what I mean? And.
• 1:38:52
  What exactly the same drivetrain setups?
• 1:38:54
  Right. Yeah, pretty much.
• 1:38:55
  Josh was complaining about Jimmy's, I think, he said.
• 1:38:58
  Jimmy didn't do something that was I think the rear end or
• 1:39:01
  something like that something. I don't think Josh is a big
• 1:39:04
  gearing. Guy Josh is such a nerd now we
• 1:39:06
  can't even. I'm not.
• 1:39:07
  I'm nowhere near him on that level.
• 1:39:09
  No, dude, when you got somebody who wants to win.
• 1:39:13
  Dude, that's what I mean. That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:39:15
  This is insider info we're giving you, right?
• 1:39:17
  Now I know. Yeah.
• 1:39:18
  Like, we knew it last year and like that made us winning.
• 1:39:22
  It made it that much more special.
• 1:39:24
  Not because we're like oh beat frustrated, but like I knew how
• 1:39:28
  good of a team they are. Fantastic drivers, cool looking
• 1:39:30
  cars and they were trying and like to beat that level was like
• 1:39:36
  fuck. That's awesome, dude.
• 1:39:38
  That is. But the gearing thing, I always
• 1:39:41
  have my thing with that because I'm again and me and Frank are
• 1:39:44
  on the same page with this. I'm not doing a gearing, I'm not
• 1:39:47
  doing a final drive change at the track.
• 1:39:49
  I'm never doing that. It's that's getting a little
• 1:39:51
  little. Into that, unless I had come up
• 1:39:53
  with some sort of apparatus where it's like and these Toyota
• 1:39:58
  ones, dude, I don't know if you have a way to do them quick, but
• 1:40:01
  the it's allenhead bolt thing. And then you have to like,
• 1:40:06
  sometimes I get lucky and you can like shove it forward and
• 1:40:08
  it'll just drop. Yeah.
• 1:40:10
  Doesn't ever. Happen for me.
• 1:40:11
  Well the problem with this thing is it's a six beat so I have to
• 1:40:14
  up to 3rd going on to the balcony when I barely have
• 1:40:17
  enough power to spin it. And like I have mis shifted in
• 1:40:20
  competition runs following everybody so like that's where
• 1:40:23
  my gearing gets me. Yeah.
• 1:40:25
  Everybody else is pretty good on proceed though as far as gearing
• 1:40:28
  goes I think. I mean, our cars are basically
• 1:40:29
  built for US air. But they.
• 1:40:31
  It is crazy. The cars are very different
• 1:40:33
  though. Like as far as like you have a
• 1:40:34
  newer car theirs are older. I mean there's an FD.
• 1:40:40
  Like what the fuck do you even do with that?
• 1:40:41
  FD moves so differently from everything else.
• 1:40:44
  It's like definitely way different.
• 1:40:45
  And then, but then you got I would say Josh, Josh and Simba.
• 1:40:50
  You know, but but like massive horsepower.
• 1:40:53
  And some. Differences.
• 1:40:54
  Josh's is super basic Simba's. That horsepower difference too
• 1:40:57
  right now is probably crazy. Damn.
• 1:40:59
  Yeah, this is so fucking. Yeah, I don't know.
• 1:41:01
  I mean, we'll see. Yeah, no, I think it's what are
• 1:41:05
  some other teams that are Animal style.
• 1:41:07
  Obviously that when I saw Animal Styles coming, I was like, all
• 1:41:10
  right, this event is going to be crazy.
• 1:41:12
  And they're, you know, again, like from earlier events,
• 1:41:15
  everyone was like, oh, it's all fun and games.
• 1:41:16
  Like, who cares? Whatever.
• 1:41:18
  Now everyone's like, I want to win, Yeah.
• 1:41:22
  Yeah, dude, Josh has becoming this monster over the years and
• 1:41:24
  I actually pretty much hate it. But it's fun to watch because
• 1:41:27
  he's always like trying to. He's a very competitive now.
• 1:41:30
  But yeah. And right now I'm like, I told
• 1:41:32
  him last night, I'm like, if you lose, can you just not be a Dick
• 1:41:35
  head like last time? Come on, just be cool, man.
• 1:41:37
  It's not the end of the world. He's like, yeah, we'll see.
• 1:41:41
  I'm like, OK, that's a no. That was a pretty.
• 1:41:44
  Fucking spot on response. Yeah.
• 1:41:46
  That's what Josh would. Say yeah, no, I don't know.
• 1:41:50
  Final bout for me is still about just it, definitely everyone
• 1:41:53
  coming together. Carl's turning into that
• 1:41:55
  competition guy though. Too.
• 1:41:56
  I was about to say I am that. Yeah, you are for sure.
• 1:41:59
  Pissing if you don't think I'm going to take this shit.
• 1:42:01
  Seriously, I'm the one no, I'm the one on proceed that wants to
• 1:42:04
  win the most OK, everybody else's kind of last year we all
• 1:42:08
  were kind of like we need to finally fucking win this thing
• 1:42:10
  true. So like, let's try this time.
• 1:42:12
  Yeah. And this year I think we we want
• 1:42:15
  to win the repeat, but kind of who cares?
• 1:42:17
  Yeah. So, so you guys were trying last
• 1:42:20
  year and it worked? Yeah.
• 1:42:21
  I wouldn't say we did. The only thing we really did
• 1:42:24
  that was very different was we chose our order and we stuck
• 1:42:28
  with it based on who we thought the strengths and weaknesses
• 1:42:31
  were and. Everything, yeah.
• 1:42:32
  In previous years it was just like a cluster, like just follow
• 1:42:36
  whoever. I do think that's a major, major
• 1:42:39
  important factor. It's and we're going to do it
• 1:42:41
  again this year because like it, it works.
• 1:42:42
  Yeah, you got to. You got to play to the driver
• 1:42:46
  and the car strengths and weaknesses.
• 1:42:48
  I don't know too many other teams.
• 1:42:49
  Do you know, do you know any other teams, Carl, that you
• 1:42:51
  think are are probably going to be top three?
• 1:42:54
  Like they could be contenders. Good feeling.
• 1:42:58
  Good feeling, yeah. OK, I haven't really seen them
• 1:43:01
  drive, so I don't. Know those are the three cars
• 1:43:02
  that we see. I don't really unfortunately
• 1:43:04
  know any of the people on that team, but I just remember seeing
• 1:43:07
  the clips from Special States. South.
• 1:43:11
  South and. Oh, OK, they're Texas.
• 1:43:13
  Guys, it was just clean as hell. Like the driving was fast and
• 1:43:17
  accurate. And I don't know his name, but
• 1:43:19
  one of the dudes won the singles comp last year.
• 1:43:22
  OK. And I feel like every time I
• 1:43:24
  watch those guys drive, they get better and better and their cars
• 1:43:27
  are set up really well. But I did notice that they
• 1:43:29
  lowered them and like they look a little bit better this year
• 1:43:32
  for final. Battle, yeah.
• 1:43:34
  So that's dude, I didn't know what I think.
• 1:43:36
  It's the green cars, that Nick Scardino, that car that thing
• 1:43:39
  is. On its.
• 1:43:41
  Balls. But it's also drives at the
• 1:43:43
  level that the other two cars are at.
• 1:43:44
  So I'm like, oh, OK, that's. Yeah, like when I see the other
• 1:43:47
  two cars, I'm like those cars look they they should drive
• 1:43:49
  really well. And then I see his car and I'm
• 1:43:50
  like a car looks like a car I would build and it's nice and
• 1:43:52
  low and like perfect. But so they they all drive real
• 1:43:56
  well together, you said. I I just think that, yeah, when
• 1:43:59
  I saw the clips of them at knuckle or at a speed sports, I
• 1:44:02
  was like. Damn, I think.
• 1:44:03
  They won South this year. They they did.
• 1:44:07
  And then my good friends over there at Risky Business, you
• 1:44:10
  know what I'm saying? They came in second at at South
• 1:44:13
  OK. But S's got some style.
• 1:44:16
  Dude, the yellow cars, the banana cars, they're all BN.
• 1:44:20
  It's crazy because the Midwest was always like the dude where
• 1:44:23
  everyone looked for the style and now Texas is all of a sudden
• 1:44:25
  becoming this second place J. Y and that whole crew, like they
• 1:44:29
  really. They really did it.
• 1:44:30
  Do you that? You would I got to go show you
• 1:44:33
  this plate that the the license plate on one of the cars on on
• 1:44:36
  my risky, risky business, my friend's car.
• 1:44:38
  I got to meet all this just says let's be in.
• 1:44:41
  That shit is sick. Don't even shut up, Matt.
• 1:44:44
  Man. That shit had me cracking up.
• 1:44:46
  I was talking to him earlier because he's like, I don't know
• 1:44:48
  how we're going to do. Like I'm like, dude, have fun
• 1:44:51
  out. There are there.
• 1:44:52
  There's I'm blinking like there's some really good teams
• 1:44:55
  coming this year and like I can't think of who they.
• 1:44:57
  Are I know right? That sheet there that that call,
• 1:45:00
  that list with all of the logos on there, I was like, oh, that's
• 1:45:05
  so cool. Like damn.
• 1:45:08
  Let me see here. I'm two years into drifting the
• 1:45:11
  ZN 6 and just started tandems this year.
• 1:45:13
  Should I turbo it? No.
• 1:45:17
  Yeah, that was the easy, fast response, no?
• 1:45:20
  I like there's sometimes that I'm just like man, I wish I
• 1:45:22
  didn't have a turbo or I wish I had like a thrash chassis that
• 1:45:26
  was NA or something. Well, you.
• 1:45:27
  Want a comp? You won a singles one with an
• 1:45:29
  NA, didn't you? No, that was turbo.
• 1:45:31
  Oh, you were turbo already? OK.
• 1:45:32
  That was the first. That was when my clutch was like
• 1:45:34
  going. Out.
• 1:45:34
  Oh, that was that one. OK.
• 1:45:37
  Yeah, they're so fun to like it's just so engaging when like
• 1:45:40
  you have to be on point and and then yeah, five years of
• 1:45:45
  driving, maybe like consistent driving, not once a year or
• 1:45:49
  whatever, yeah, then maybe you need.
• 1:45:51
  More because then you start to get bored like with the power.
• 1:45:54
  At that point you're like, I don't know about.
• 1:45:57
  I wouldn't. Say bored, but I would say it
• 1:45:59
  starts holding you back from what you can do.
• 1:46:01
  That was you basically. I would say with the GEI was
• 1:46:03
  just throwing it like as hard as I could at anything which.
• 1:46:06
  Is that's not boring. That's kind of fun.
• 1:46:09
  It was fun, but it wasn't fun when people were like, leaving
• 1:46:14
  you. Yeah.
• 1:46:15
  And then like, I also just don't like the sound of the GE at all.
• 1:46:18
  It's. Terrible.
• 1:46:19
  It just sounds like a BMW, like a knock off BMW.
• 1:46:22
  And mine sounded really BMW like it sounded very it's.
• 1:46:27
  Worse than VQ? OK, I don't know.
• 1:46:30
  Is it really that bad? Dude, it's, it's just.
• 1:46:33
  I heard it it wasn't as bad as VQ.
• 1:46:35
  That's crazy. It's just.
• 1:46:36
  Bland. It's just bland.
• 1:46:37
  It's just loud. NA, yeah, NA, straight sixes are
• 1:46:41
  so bad. I'm still trying to figure out
• 1:46:42
  the solution for VQS the exhaust.
• 1:46:44
  A muffle, dude, Those those Sasha Long tubes?
• 1:46:47
  You heard those. With no, but that sounds crazy.
• 1:46:51
  He was like on zip tied forever. Now he actually does a bunch of
• 1:46:54
  Tesla stuff with Mountain Pass Motorsports in Canada.
• 1:46:58
  He actually made a hybrid Z race car and but like before it was
• 1:47:02
  hybrid. He did these long tube headers
• 1:47:05
  and it sounded like a fucking Ferrari or something.
• 1:47:07
  Yeah, I feel like that car is 1 tweak away from sounding like a
• 1:47:12
  crazy engine, but until that happens it sounds like shit like
• 1:47:17
  so that probably makes sense with something with the just a
• 1:47:20
  butter. No, no.
• 1:47:21
  Not always though. No, this one was loud, but like
• 1:47:25
  loud, but it was like cool, somebody figured it out.
• 1:47:28
  Now there's going to be a bunch of different versions of these
• 1:47:30
  headers that. Are knocked off.
• 1:47:31
  No, never happened. That's it.
• 1:47:34
  Yeah, I don't know. Oh.
• 1:47:36
  My God dude I would love AZ. That sounds like a Ferrari
• 1:47:39
  that's really like runner length and all that junk.
• 1:47:41
  Like just like how AI saw a Corvette or not saw but I heard
• 1:47:45
  a Corvette the other day that had some wild headers on it that
• 1:47:49
  sounded like a Ferrari. I was.
• 1:47:50
  Like what the hell? And it was AC6 too, so it wasn't
• 1:47:54
  like a whatever that new one is the ZO6, yeah, this sounded way
• 1:47:58
  different, did not sound like ALS, whatever comes in that.
• 1:48:01
  One day I want to get AZ and figure this out.
• 1:48:04
  Swap the engine. I just want to figure it out.
• 1:48:06
  I want the VQ. I want to figure it out.
• 1:48:08
  Because, yeah, the nice thing about those, like they make
• 1:48:09
  plenty of power and they seem to last forever.
• 1:48:12
  Yeah. So if you can just make them not
• 1:48:14
  sound like ass. I want a twin turboy though.
• 1:48:17
  But then someone. Does that sound good though?
• 1:48:18
  Exactly. Someone was like, in my head, I
• 1:48:21
  was like, oh, if you twin turbo it, it's gonna sound good.
• 1:48:23
  Yeah. And then someone told me they
• 1:48:25
  were like, no, they're like, we've heard twin turboed ones
• 1:48:29
  and it sounds the same. It's just a little different.
• 1:48:32
  It doesn't really sound that great, Yeah.
• 1:48:33
  It just has this extra like tone that's going on in the
• 1:48:38
  background and you're like, what the fuck is that?
• 1:48:40
  That sucks. And.
• 1:48:40
  Now, dude, you see there was AZ or no, it might have been AG.
• 1:48:44
  No, it was AZ 'cause it had the bumper.
• 1:48:46
  You know, they cut out that middle part always between two
• 1:48:49
  exhausts. They do that on this shit too.
• 1:48:51
  Dude, but no, this one, this one scared the shit out of me
• 1:48:54
  because I was driving. I I thought I heard boost, but
• 1:48:58
  then I thought I saw it was AZ and then I see that there's
• 1:49:02
  really nothing different about it until it passed me.
• 1:49:05
  The cut out was there and there was a fucking turbo right there.
• 1:49:09
  Oh, where the where the a muffler would be?
• 1:49:12
  And the whole time I'm just trying to get closer and closer
• 1:49:15
  because I'm like, am I seeing things like is this a turbo back
• 1:49:18
  here? I looked it up.
• 1:49:20
  It's a thing. I didn't know that.
• 1:49:22
  There's a guy he was driving E town gambler and he did like
• 1:49:27
  decent. I think he was like middle,
• 1:49:29
  middle or whatever. And he just recently had like
• 1:49:32
  he's got like 600 horsepower remote mount turbo.
• 1:49:35
  Is that what that's called? Remote mount I.
• 1:49:37
  Wonder who it was? If you will have I.
• 1:49:39
  Think it was remote mount or am I getting that confused with
• 1:49:41
  drift Indy? If you had an exhaust leak all
• 1:49:47
  the way at the front dude, that would affect your.
• 1:49:49
  Shit. So crazy.
• 1:49:51
  Yeah, yeah, I never looked into that stuff.
• 1:49:53
  I'm always confused. I'm like why is this better?
• 1:49:56
  But I mean. Yeah, it's supposed to be
• 1:49:57
  easier, but it seems more complicated.
• 1:49:59
  There's so much more piping. So much.
• 1:50:02
  And think about the boost response or lack of, yeah.
• 1:50:05
  So I, that was my concern was that how long it would travel
• 1:50:08
  is, but somebody had argued there's always going to be
• 1:50:13
  somebody who argues where it's like it's airflow, like it's.
• 1:50:17
  It takes time. It takes time, but like suppose
• 1:50:19
  like they're like, it takes time, but it takes not that much
• 1:50:22
  time. Like it's, it's responsive, it's
• 1:50:24
  still responsive, ba da da. Well, it's like people with like
• 1:50:27
  high mount intercoolers and front mount intercoolers, yeah.
• 1:50:30
  Yeah, but at the end of the day, that turbo is still in the back
• 1:50:34
  and it's making boost, and it's really weird because now the
• 1:50:37
  turbo's not in the engine Bay. That's another thing.
• 1:50:40
  I just wonder like is it easier and cheaper because they're just
• 1:50:46
  packaging constraints? Yeah, probably.
• 1:50:50
  Maybe that's why, because they can't fit it somewhere on the
• 1:50:51
  front or something. Well like I'm thinking of like
• 1:50:54
  runner length and or not runner length but like manifold
• 1:50:57
  situation. Now you have like normal looking
• 1:51:00
  sort of normal looking headers all the way out.
• 1:51:02
  Back. And then you just have like a
• 1:51:04
  turbo and then the turbo goes all like the turbo just exits
• 1:51:10
  right there. I just love that there's people
• 1:51:11
  listening to this that actually know what's going on and they're
• 1:51:13
  like, what the hell is wrong? With that, I was just thinking
• 1:51:15
  that I was like, there's got to be a reason because people do it
• 1:51:19
  so. I thought it was just because
• 1:51:20
  this person. At first I thought it was
• 1:51:22
  because this person wanted to be cool.
• 1:51:24
  I thought you were going to say they were just dumb.
• 1:51:26
  Well, no, I mean like, I try to not.
• 1:51:30
  I try not to write things off as quickly as I used to and hate it
• 1:51:34
  right away. That is a problem of mine.
• 1:51:36
  I'm just like that shit is not AIS 300 with A1 dumb but like I
• 1:51:43
  just tried to think and rationalize about it and there
• 1:51:46
  isn't really a lot that would make at that point.
• 1:51:48
  I'm just keeping that shit. Well, and that's like most of
• 1:51:50
  what we do is like there's pros and cons of every mod that we
• 1:51:54
  do. Oh yeah.
• 1:51:54
  So like maybe for some people, the pros of having a remote
• 1:51:58
  mount, whatever they are, we don't know what they.
• 1:52:00
  Are, yeah. They they outweigh the.
• 1:52:02
  Cooling too. It's like all the way in the
• 1:52:04
  back. I guess, yeah, it's like how
• 1:52:07
  fucking cool, Zach. Now I'm going to spend 3 hours
• 1:52:10
  researching all this because now I need to know.
• 1:52:12
  But you wouldn't. Waste your time.
• 1:52:13
  I know. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:52:15
  Since we were talking about newer cars, really this question
• 1:52:17
  is from me. What do you think about the new
• 1:52:19
  ZI? Don't.
• 1:52:23
  Yeah. Yeah, no.
• 1:52:25
  Why? They I mean 33 or Z33 and Z34,
• 1:52:31
  like I said, like they're cool. Like I don't dislike them except
• 1:52:34
  for the engine noise, but like I just have never enjoyed driving
• 1:52:37
  them. They're just not very engaging.
• 1:52:40
  And then the new one, I'm so on the fence of the styling.
• 1:52:44
  Like some part of me loves it. Part of me is just like whatever
• 1:52:50
  I know the first time, like I'm big interiors and I saw the
• 1:52:55
  interior shots like there's so many buttons and like things
• 1:52:58
  that are going on and like what is this?
• 1:53:00
  It looks way overcomplicated. They tried a little bit, but
• 1:53:04
  then tried too much, like they tried to make it.
• 1:53:07
  Oh, people want tactile functions, Ben Buttons.
• 1:53:13
  They just threw a bunch of them. And then I found out that it's
• 1:53:15
  basically exactly the same as the Z34 with the body kit and
• 1:53:18
  that's. Like it's a parts big.
• 1:53:19
  Car. Yeah, it's totally parts big
• 1:53:21
  car. Yeah, my friend that works at
• 1:53:23
  Infinity or worked at, he was like, he's like, dude, that that
• 1:53:26
  chassis is the exact same one. I was like, no way.
• 1:53:28
  He's like, no, I swear it's the same one.
• 1:53:30
  I mean, give me a a mark 5 supra over that.
• 1:53:34
  Yeah, really, for sure. So Beamer.
• 1:53:36
  And I see. It's Toyota.
• 1:53:38
  I see. I'm not I I like BMWs like
• 1:53:42
  whatever they're. I don't know if I could.
• 1:53:44
  If I had no financial constraints to build a drift
• 1:53:47
  car, it'd definitely be an F80. Really.
• 1:53:50
  I would want AF 80 if it's a BMW.
• 1:53:53
  Like is that the same engine or no?
• 1:53:54
  Totally different engine. I'm not very.
• 1:53:57
  Learning to find. Them though, I do know.
• 1:53:59
  I do know that if you put a single turbo on it, it sounds
• 1:54:03
  pretty. It sounds pretty Jay-Z like.
• 1:54:06
  Yeah, that's one reason I really like.
• 1:54:08
  Them because as much as people. Want to make fun of them for
• 1:54:10
  being BMW. I'm like dude, they put a turbo
• 1:54:12
  straight 6IN it. Yeah, I'm in.
• 1:54:14
  But that's that's that's a. Cool, I got to find a single
• 1:54:17
  turbo clip. The one I'm talking about.
• 1:54:18
  It sounded like a new one. Jay, I'm.
• 1:54:21
  Just like dude, I'm so mad at Toyota with this shit.
• 1:54:24
  Like I'm really mad about it because I'm like, you guys make
• 1:54:26
  nice cars, but you're not making any cars, you're just letting
• 1:54:29
  other people do it. Like a the first time I saw a
• 1:54:31
  super up close and started looking at it, I was like even
• 1:54:35
  the VIN number is the BMW VIN number.
• 1:54:37
  Come on guys. What did you think the mark 4?
• 1:54:39
  Is the interior. It's like so much BMW design
• 1:54:41
  language and not. Yeah, the Mark 4, aside from the
• 1:54:45
  fact that it was like jet fighter, like interior like
• 1:54:48
  that, that was also a car of collaborations.
• 1:54:50
  Did You Know? That with who?
• 1:54:52
  Yamaha. Oh yeah, they make the engine.
• 1:54:54
  And that and what? Yamaha made the one J, not the
• 1:54:56
  two J. Oh.
• 1:54:59
  The GTE also was not a Yamaha engine, no.
• 1:55:04
  As far as I know I've been wrong many times, but the one J was
• 1:55:08
  and then and then they were like cool, you gave us the recipe.
• 1:55:11
  Now, Yeah, yeah, I was going to say.
• 1:55:12
  So they basically copied it. OK, OK.
• 1:55:14
  Like. To AT.
• 1:55:15
  But what that is, what the what the Mark 5 is is what what I'm
• 1:55:18
  trying to get out more is that they saw where they wanted to
• 1:55:23
  pull the parts from and then got it.
• 1:55:26
  No, you're not going to convince me of this one.
• 1:55:28
  I. I didn't.
• 1:55:29
  I wish it was a Toyota. I've actually there's and what I
• 1:55:32
  would take is like serious rumors that Toyota's not going
• 1:55:35
  to make this anymore with Subaru.
• 1:55:37
  They're going to do it on their own.
• 1:55:38
  That would be great. And that's where I think those
• 1:55:40
  rumors from the the Yaris like 3 cylinder turbo, they're going to
• 1:55:45
  put in this thing. If they're smart, they will do
• 1:55:47
  something like that because the only thing people really don't
• 1:55:49
  like about this car is the engine.
• 1:55:50
  Yeah, so. But but then again, like, we, we
• 1:55:53
  think of all this stuff and we're always like, if Nissan
• 1:55:56
  made an S16, they'd be fucking rich.
• 1:55:59
  And then it's like, no, you don't get it.
• 1:56:00
  No one actually cares. Just us, very small.
• 1:56:03
  Needs. No, yeah, OK, so that's dude.
• 1:56:06
  My one of my senior projects we had this.
• 1:56:09
  That's dude. It was like a fucking like
• 1:56:10
  analytics course and I was not doing good in it.
• 1:56:14
  But the final project pulled me because you had to, you had to
• 1:56:19
  like role play or whatever you want to call that simulation as
• 1:56:22
  as a, as a, like you started a car like an automotive company
• 1:56:29
  and you need to manufacture cars.
• 1:56:31
  It was actually a really fun school project 'cause I had to
• 1:56:36
  think like OK, fucking minivans and SUVs.
• 1:56:40
  But then I, I'm in the class so I'm like what am I going to
• 1:56:44
  fucking put out minivans and SUVs?
• 1:56:46
  No, like I put out like 3 sports cars on my lineup and like they,
• 1:56:51
  they were good cars. I addressed the motors and I
• 1:56:54
  made sure you had to write marketing stints for each one,
• 1:56:58
  like like a sheet for each one. And I, I marketed the fuck out
• 1:57:02
  of these and I had like an SUV bro.
• 1:57:06
  My brand in the list of car like in the class was not good
• 1:57:12
  because I prioritize the things that we all would prioritize.
• 1:57:17
  And yeah, that's really unfortunately how and why we're
• 1:57:22
  probably not going to get. The things down, but at.
• 1:57:25
  The same time like I think about that like how we just said it,
• 1:57:27
  but then I also think like no, they there's a lot of people
• 1:57:31
  that want an entry level sports car like this so.
• 1:57:34
  Yeah, it just seems like horsepower is so important for
• 1:57:38
  like the layman car guy. Yeah.
• 1:57:40
  It's hard to get over and like horsepower is expensive to keep
• 1:57:43
  reliable so. That F80 man they I love those.
• 1:57:47
  Not the one with the. You know the.
• 1:57:50
  The nose, The nose, the way right.
• 1:57:51
  Before that? Yeah, just right before.
• 1:57:53
  The nose totally grew on me. Yeah, no, again, that was like
• 1:57:57
  I've. Laughed out loud when I saw I
• 1:57:59
  was like I'm waiting. It's got to be a joke.
• 1:58:00
  I'm waiting for it to grow on me.
• 1:58:01
  No, I feel like it will but. Especially the M's.
• 1:58:04
  I'm like. Oh no, no.
• 1:58:06
  The back though. I will, yeah.
• 1:58:08
  I will say I do like the M2. I don't hate that.
• 1:58:11
  That's even the worst looking one.
• 1:58:12
  They actually got the square. Yeah, I don't hate that car, but
• 1:58:15
  it's still one of those cars where I see it.
• 1:58:16
  I'm like, what are they doing, Cyborg?
• 1:58:18
  And then I'm like probably. Pretty bad.
• 1:58:20
  Yeah, it's almost like they're fucking going backwards.
• 1:58:23
  I'm like they they mastered the kidney grill or whatever they
• 1:58:25
  call it. Like it looked great.
• 1:58:27
  And they were. Just like how about bigger?
• 1:58:29
  It was like enhanced. That's that's the second time
• 1:58:32
  someone did the enhanced thing on this.
• 1:58:33
  File OK so funny this one made me like the the nose one that
• 1:58:36
  what we did GG80 it's AG 80 is the whatever is the.
• 1:58:40
  Letter the BMW guy over here, huh?
• 1:58:42
  It's just the letters in order, that's it.
• 1:58:45
  Wait, wait, really? F. 80 and then G80.
• 1:58:48
  I'm trying to make BMW make. Sense because then A70A80A90.
• 1:58:53
  But what about so they had E90 and shit if the ones before that
• 1:58:59
  were still all ES, right? Because yeah, like it was like E
• 1:59:04
  no, E60 and E90 was like the same generation.
• 1:59:06
  So I think they started they were changing the numbers.
• 1:59:09
  Instead they messed something up along the way though the
• 1:59:11
  numbers, because I remember the numbers used to make sense or
• 1:59:13
  something and then all of a sudden it didn't.
• 1:59:14
  And yeah, and then they made the like the three and four and then
• 1:59:18
  5:00 and 6:00 instead of just a 2 door and a four door three,
• 1:59:21
  Yeah. And then they did it like where
• 1:59:23
  the four is the 2 door, Yeah. And the three is this. 4 door.
• 1:59:27
  Yeah, they did. But then.
• 1:59:28
  But then you got I and then CI and then those.
• 1:59:31
  I think still make sense when they use.
• 1:59:34
  It XI see X and I'm like. When Nissan said they were going
• 1:59:38
  to make it called the 400Z and it was going to be a three-point
• 1:59:40
  whatever, I was like, I'll never, I'll never own a Nissan
• 1:59:45
  ever again because my OCDS is just like, I'm like, don't do
• 1:59:48
  that. So do you like the new ZI?
• 1:59:51
  Actually think I do, but the problem is like I I know my
• 1:59:56
  friend Nick that works at Infinity and he's like, those
• 1:59:59
  engines are fucking horrible. Oh, really?
• 2:00:01
  Yeah, he's like the turbos blow up every week.
• 2:00:03
  Every week they're replacing turbos.
• 2:00:05
  Like the engines just are not good.
• 2:00:07
  And I was like, OK, well, that's a little scary because is it?
• 2:00:10
  VR. It's I heard it's more like a
• 2:00:14
  GTR engine than it is a VQ engine.
• 2:00:16
  That's what I heard, but maybe. I heard that which sounds great
• 2:00:18
  on paper. Yeah, but something about the
• 2:00:21
  turbochargers they're having problems with, I don't know.
• 2:00:22
  But the problem is no one actually bought a new Z because
• 2:00:25
  they're probably still $70,000 or some shit.
• 2:00:27
  So very expensive. Yeah, they're overpriced for
• 2:00:30
  sure, I think. But like, you finally got a
• 2:00:32
  drivetrain that's like promising, so that's cool.
• 2:00:34
  But. And I think the outside is
• 2:00:37
  better than the last one, in my opinion.
• 2:00:39
  I like the rear. End.
• 2:00:40
  I agree. Yeah, definitely looks better.
• 2:00:42
  Yeah I somehow for some reason I still do like a 350Z how it
• 2:00:46
  looks even though like when I say that out loud I feel like an
• 2:00:48
  idiot. You know who got a good power
• 2:00:50
  trip in that? Podcast right now.
• 2:00:51
  Yeah. I know who got a good good power
• 2:00:53
  engine. Whatever powerplant a Mazda,
• 2:00:58
  whatever that big SUV is, everyone keeps.
• 2:01:01
  Talking about it. CX-90 as soon as I engine, Yeah,
• 2:01:04
  what is it? Engine in the CX-90, Mazda
• 2:01:07
  decided to make an inline 6 turbo and it's just in that
• 2:01:13
  truck thing. That's it.
• 2:01:15
  Transfers. No other cars.
• 2:01:17
  It's long wait. Really.
• 2:01:19
  I think so, because I read all of this and I was like, oh,
• 2:01:23
  they're going to make something with this.
• 2:01:24
  Like they just wanted to put it in something to test it, but
• 2:01:28
  then like. But man if they came out with an
• 2:01:31
  inline 6 sports car it would be weird instead of a Rotary like
• 2:01:35
  the. World would light on.
• 2:01:36
  Fire. Yeah, I'd be like, I'm upset
• 2:01:38
  about this. But did you hear about how
• 2:01:41
  Toyota is going to collab with? Ohio Great.
• 2:01:45
  Can't wait. Who, who, who are they going to
• 2:01:49
  steal now? No, because they were competing.
• 2:01:51
  They're competing against someone and they took the other
• 2:01:53
  BIG4. Like all the ones that aren't.
• 2:01:58
  Who else couldn't they? I don't know, but I just know
• 2:02:02
  that they paired up with Mitsubishi's one stop.
• 2:02:05
  Yeah, they need to let that are. They still in business?
• 2:02:07
  Barely. I have a feeling what's
• 2:02:08
  happening is all the dying ones are going to just pull together
• 2:02:11
  just to do something crazy and then all for that.
• 2:02:14
  Here's the other thing I think they're going.
• 2:02:15
  To be like on the Titanic. Door all together.
• 2:02:19
  They're just like, hey, we need to come up with a Mitsubishi, we
• 2:02:22
  need to come up with an Evolution Super.
• 2:02:27
  I think that species fine everywhere but here.
• 2:02:30
  I believe it. Yeah, I think Mitsubishi in
• 2:02:31
  America is fucking long gone. Like they need to stop, but
• 2:02:35
  everywhere else I think they're not.
• 2:02:36
  Doing that but even Japan like aren't they Because do they even
• 2:02:39
  make the lands like no go? Anywhere, right?
• 2:02:42
  They got rid of it. So like don't they just super
• 2:02:45
  econo car even in? Japan, yeah.
• 2:02:47
  But very appliance related, yeah.
• 2:02:49
  Yeah, which is fucking. That's a bummer too, man.
• 2:02:51
  When I heard that EVO was done, I was like, this is a dark day,
• 2:02:55
  Yeah, like this is bad. And I thought Super was going to
• 2:02:58
  follow through too, but it looks like they're not.
• 2:03:01
  Behind the scenes, I mean, what? They don't even have an STI.
• 2:03:03
  Right. They don't have an STI right
• 2:03:04
  now, but I think they do have plans.
• 2:03:05
  I heard something literally yesterday someone said there
• 2:03:08
  might have been a leak that it is going to be that WRX engine
• 2:03:12
  but it might be a 2.4 and it's going to be basically the same.
• 2:03:17
  I think the same engine as a current one, but it's just have
• 2:03:20
  a power boost, like more boost I guess.
• 2:03:21
  Because that would be interesting because the FA
• 2:03:24
  engine from like what I understand is way better than
• 2:03:27
  EJ. Like they took all the weak
• 2:03:29
  points in the EJ and got rid. Of them, I think so.
• 2:03:32
  From what I've seen, they seem way more reliable.
• 2:03:35
  Yeah, So, yeah, I mean, I, I don't really like them that
• 2:03:38
  much. I actually like EJ engines, but
• 2:03:39
  I know they're they got problems really.
• 2:03:41
  I just love that engine because I'm, I am a Subaru person,
• 2:03:43
  really. Yeah, at heart I am.
• 2:03:45
  But. What do you like I because he.
• 2:03:48
  Got shocked. Well, so I'm actually like I my
• 2:03:51
  high school dream car was AGC 8 and like I've this is the first
• 2:03:56
  Subaru I've. Owned.
• 2:03:56
  Yeah. And so like, I love Subaru.
• 2:03:59
  I just definitely owned. One, yeah, my dream was like a
• 2:04:01
  GDSTI, which I had eventually I had AO5 STI, so that was like
• 2:04:05
  one of my dream cars. That and like an Evo 9.
• 2:04:08
  You had both? No, I didn't have an Evo nine.
• 2:04:10
  It was it was like I'm going to get one of these, I don't know
• 2:04:12
  which one. And I ended up doing the Subaru
• 2:04:14
  because I I felt like it was a better daily driver for whatever
• 2:04:18
  reason. They seem much nicer interiors.
• 2:04:21
  Definitely, the interior of Mitsubishi is fucking horrible.
• 2:04:24
  That's what I was going to say next is that have you, if you
• 2:04:26
  never sat in an Evo 10, which was the last Evo, that car was
• 2:04:32
  not going to fucking resell that great.
• 2:04:36
  I I actually. Like and and you're telling me
• 2:04:38
  it's got 5 speeds? Yeah.
• 2:04:40
  It's not 6 speed because when we were driving home from Alicia,
• 2:04:43
  Johnny maybe. But I think it was automatic.
• 2:04:47
  Johnny was sitting there in 5th and I'm like yo, are you going
• 2:04:51
  to like shift up? Because like it was sounding
• 2:04:54
  like it needed another gear and he was like no it shoots 5
• 2:04:57
  speed. I'm like what?
• 2:05:02
  This is a new ass car. Yeah, I felt that way when they
• 2:05:04
  came out. I was like, OK, we're still.
• 2:05:05
  Doing this, it's so weird and and first of all, I was like,
• 2:05:08
  thank God you didn't let me start driving this thing and
• 2:05:11
  then I'm fucking driving. I just yeah, because you know,
• 2:05:14
  my O2 IS300 got 6. But as far as supers go, like I
• 2:05:19
  don't know, but that brand is cool.
• 2:05:20
  I mean it was cool like before vape, people took it over and
• 2:05:23
  everything. Bro bug eye bug eye seats dude.
• 2:05:27
  Yeah, best seat. Ever bug eye cause cause an O4
• 2:05:30
  STI was the worst seat they. Were Oh no, no, no, those are
• 2:05:32
  bad. Yeah, you were sit like this.
• 2:05:34
  The the bug eye seats didn't look as cool as the STI ones
• 2:05:37
  'cause they had this thing. Yeah, but dude, have you, have
• 2:05:40
  you sat in a bug eye? Dude.
• 2:05:42
  Oh, I think I know what you're talking.
• 2:05:43
  About they they. Fucking just, I mean dude, in
• 2:05:46
  general the bug eye variant like that was the interior's great.
• 2:05:50
  They sound so sick no matter what.
• 2:05:52
  Like they're just cool cars. I had a WAG.
• 2:05:54
  When I bought this it had unequal length headers on it OK
• 2:05:57
  and I was like I hate how this sounds but I love it.
• 2:06:02
  Oh, you were definitely just living your little.
• 2:06:03
  That was me too. Yeah.
• 2:06:04
  That's that's any Subaru owner that understands like engines.
• 2:06:07
  They're like, yeah, I want unequal, I want equal length.
• 2:06:10
  But it sounds cool like my. High school boy, my high school
• 2:06:14
  inside is just screaming. My my I owned a Subaru
• 2:06:18
  unintentionally like it fell into my lap and it was the best
• 2:06:23
  definitely one of the best daily drivers I ever had.
• 2:06:25
  It was a wagon it had it was bone stock so it like the whole
• 2:06:30
  outside was just silver and it had those split spoke wheels WRX
• 2:06:35
  but with a JDM swap. It's the only thing they did
• 2:06:38
  the. JDM swap.
• 2:06:40
  I have so many good. Memories, third gear, third gear
• 2:06:43
  in that thing would murder these.
• 2:06:46
  It would just eat them up like it would destroy them.
• 2:06:49
  And I was it would snow and I would, I know this is a big no
• 2:06:52
  no, but it would snow and I would fucking just be doing
• 2:06:56
  launches and that thing like it was so fast.
• 2:06:59
  No, in the snow, you're good. That's fine.
• 2:07:01
  Yo, it would be like a traffic light and you just see like this
• 2:07:04
  station wagon, just like just take off and it would squat like
• 2:07:09
  hell. Dude, it's it's in the dry that
• 2:07:11
  you got to worry about like. Oh no, no, I did not do.
• 2:07:13
  That fragile. Weed, like launching is one
• 2:07:15
  thing, but I Remember Me and my buddy Jesse were in the car were
• 2:07:18
  like, I just got it kind of and it was like AO5 STI, pretty
• 2:07:22
  stock. I was like, so this thing can do
• 2:07:25
  Donuts, right? Like flat spins.
• 2:07:27
  He's like, yeah, yeah. I was like, all right, how do
• 2:07:30
  you do that cuz? And I started drifting like that
• 2:07:33
  year I think, but I was like, it's not the same.
• 2:07:35
  I can't just dump the clutch. I'm gonna fucking blow this
• 2:07:37
  thing up. So cut the wheel, start driving
• 2:07:40
  it first going around, and then all of a sudden it just kicks
• 2:07:42
  out and we start going, dude, craziest feeling ever in the car
• 2:07:46
  because you're just like literally just rotating around
• 2:07:49
  and you're like, and we're just like.
• 2:07:50
  What the fuck? It's.
• 2:07:51
  Just like flooring it and it's banging off limiter.
• 2:07:53
  I stopped. I never did that again.
• 2:07:55
  I was like, that was the most violent thing I've ever done in
• 2:07:58
  a car. Jesus.
• 2:07:59
  And it was like, this car is way too much money to be doing this
• 2:08:01
  dumb shit in it. But it was fun.
• 2:08:03
  It was like, yeah. I've never been in a spin like
• 2:08:06
  that. Dude, it just looks like it
• 2:08:08
  would hurt. Yeah, it looks.
• 2:08:09
  Like. It.
• 2:08:10
  Would make me sick. It's hurting the car.
• 2:08:11
  Yeah, it will. It would definitely make you
• 2:08:13
  sick. It doesn't make sense because in
• 2:08:14
  a drift car, you're like, you're doing a donut and you're like,
• 2:08:17
  it's smooth and everything. In that car, it was like violent
• 2:08:21
  and like a top spinning like a top.
• 2:08:23
  Yeah, it was just funny as fuck. Oh.
• 2:08:25
  Yeah, No, I don't know about that.
• 2:08:27
  But like, dude, I don't know. Then you think of like rally
• 2:08:30
  cars and shit, you're like, that shit is sick.
• 2:08:32
  Dude those guys are the craziest.
• 2:08:34
  Traffic on the planet, Yeah. I think that's why I got into
• 2:08:37
  Subarus originally like. That's right.
• 2:08:39
  Yeah. I had to focus.
• 2:08:40
  So I got into WRC. Oh, and actually my my family
• 2:08:43
  had a Subaru dealership, so that also hurt me.
• 2:08:46
  Yeah. It's like I was just surrounded
• 2:08:48
  by WRC and then. I never did any rally.
• 2:08:51
  GC, that's kind of hard thing to get into too.
• 2:08:53
  Yeah, right. Yeah, especially in America,
• 2:08:54
  because it wasn't really that popular.
• 2:08:57
  WRC wasn't here, or it still isn't here.
• 2:08:59
  Never was. Still not so.
• 2:09:01
  Rally Cross is pretty easy to find.
• 2:09:03
  Yeah, they have rally here, but it wasn't WRC.
• 2:09:06
  Yeah, they the only rally org that I knew was in in college,
• 2:09:10
  they would do a trip every year to something called ESPN and
• 2:09:15
  that was the rally organization where it was nearest to us.
• 2:09:18
  So I got to see like a little bit of it and even a little bit
• 2:09:22
  of it, like it didn't seem like anything attainable to me.
• 2:09:26
  Yeah, I, I knew it drifting a little bit.
• 2:09:28
  And I was like, if I can barely get to a drift event, I am not
• 2:09:32
  going to get here dude. Drifting is just different
• 2:09:34
  because it's like, well, we can go do this right now, you know,
• 2:09:37
  at rally, it's like, where the fuck are we going to go?
• 2:09:39
  Like there's no dirt. Like it's, it's just unless you
• 2:09:42
  live in a middle of nowhere, it's different.
• 2:09:44
  You know, drifting, it's like you can go to a parking lot and
• 2:09:47
  figure this out, but you know. Although, yeah, back when we
• 2:09:51
  started. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:09:52
  We're not talking about any of the takeover stuff now.
• 2:09:56
  It's all. Different.
• 2:09:57
  That's not. Drifting.
• 2:09:57
  Yeah. No the.
• 2:09:58
  Adrenaline you would get, dude, if you're just like looking
• 2:10:00
  around really quick and you're like, and then you have to leave
• 2:10:05
  right away. Oh yeah, right.
• 2:10:06
  Almost immediately. Now you just do it in a fucking
• 2:10:08
  intersection with 30,000 people for five hours, whatever.
• 2:10:13
  Do you have? Do you have anything else you
• 2:10:14
  want to share? Final messages?
• 2:10:17
  Yeah. Make sure to check out D Chord.
• 2:10:18
  That webinar thing is. Yeah, that's some good.
• 2:10:21
  Stuff that shit sounds sick. Next time we do this, which we
• 2:10:23
  will probably do it again, we're going to go into the history of
• 2:10:26
  your your whole because usually we did this one totally
• 2:10:29
  different. Usually we dive into like the
• 2:10:30
  history and everything. This time we did like modern.
• 2:10:33
  We're doing like that because I don't think my history is very.
• 2:10:37
  I'm sure people would like I just.
• 2:10:38
  Like having conversations after hearing how people listen to
• 2:10:41
  these podcasts, it's like I don't know if anybody want to
• 2:10:45
  hear like a full on history lesson sometimes.
• 2:10:47
  Yeah, who the fuck am I? Like, yeah, sure, I'll hear the
• 2:10:50
  history of like Elon Musk or something, but.
• 2:10:52
  Who the fuck I got? Let's just talk about.
• 2:10:54
  That I'm also a nerd, so yeah. No dude, this is.
• 2:10:58
  This is great. This is an amazing podcast.
• 2:11:00
  Thank you, Lee. Yeah, and.
• 2:11:01
  And thanks for having us here. Shit, I'm about to fuck.
• 2:11:04
  Yeah. Let's see you for a happy some.
• 2:11:06
  Burgers. Drink some more beers.
• 2:11:07
  Yeah, dude, pick some people up from the airport too.
• 2:11:10
  My God. Malcolm and Princess and Eddie,
• 2:11:11
  finally. Do that first and that shit.
• 2:11:13
  They're not there. Shit.
• 2:11:14
  John's there though. But yeah, so.
• 2:11:17
  For real. Yeah, one of our buddies, they
• 2:11:18
  got different flights or whatever.
• 2:11:20
  I'm gonna go grab him or I'm gonna tell him, wait 30 minutes
• 2:11:22
  and I'll grab everyone. That way we can do it all at
• 2:11:24
  once. Make a mover dude.
• 2:11:27
  Excited to see you this weekend. So let's let's fingers crossed,
• 2:11:30
  let's. See what happens?
• 2:11:31
  I can't believe it took me this long to kind of like meet you
• 2:11:34
  SO. This is our longest.
• 2:11:35
  Conversation for weeks. Much better than I know you
• 2:11:37
  because I have listened to a few of your podcasts so.
• 2:11:39
  Dude, I thought you were going to.
• 2:11:41
  I thought you were going to be Asian.
• 2:11:43
  Bro what? Because you people were like,
• 2:11:46
  oh, we're at Lee's house and I thought it was L.
• 2:11:49
  EE and. Then you realized.
• 2:11:52
  I pull up here, I'm like, hey, man, like, are you Lee?
• 2:11:55
  Thanks for having us. Like last time we were here.
• 2:11:57
  That's all I might have said to you.
• 2:11:58
  That's funny because we're at your house.
• 2:12:00
  You're probably drunk too. And I was, I was like, who did I
• 2:12:03
  ask? Who did I fucking ask?
• 2:12:04
  We were sitting at that table. So it was, it was like all our
• 2:12:07
  friends. It was like Johnny and Nick,
• 2:12:09
  like, that's Lee over there, like.
• 2:12:12
  He's looking for an Asian dude. It kind of.
• 2:12:16
  Makes when I was looking for Mel yesterday, it was funny as fuck.
• 2:12:18
  Like I'm walking around. They're like, yeah, it's the
• 2:12:20
  that guy. He looks kind of like you right
• 2:12:22
  there. So I just walking around, I'm
• 2:12:24
  like. Yeah, he's like, yo, is this
• 2:12:26
  him? I'm like, yeah, that's him.
• 2:12:28
  Tap him on the shoulder like he. Sees you, just gives you a hug,
• 2:12:31
  Yeah. So funny.
• 2:12:33
  Yeah, dude. Coming here is awesome, man.
• 2:12:35
  Dude, you guys are always there. I'm.
• 2:12:36
  Going to go buy a fucking a quick little case over there so
• 2:12:38
  I can have something to offer the party on.
• 2:12:40
  Beer 2 I might actually go with. You all right?
• 2:12:42
  Let's get ready. All right, Thank you.
• 2:12:43
  Cool. Thank you.
• 2:12:45
  See you. Dude, thank you guys so much
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  peace. All right guys, I hope you
• 2:12:53
  enjoyed that one. We have a bunch more episodes
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  coming. We actually have I think a total
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  of 8 or 9 podcasts from Final bout 7.
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  So yeah, there's going to be a bunch more of these on the way,
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  but this one was the most I would say, relevant to the
• 2:13:08
  event. So hopefully you guys were
• 2:13:10
  listening this on the way up to the track.
• 2:13:12
  Or if you're at home missing Final Bout, you could listen to
• 2:13:15
  it there. We will be at Final bout 7 with
• 2:13:20
  the merch booth and Princess is going to be there too, so.
• 2:13:25
  Y'all big backs better be there we're.
• 2:13:29
  Going to be selling a bunch of merch and we got some parts and
• 2:13:33
  stickers and other stuff like that and Oh yeah, we're doing a
• 2:13:38
  sale too. We're we are currently recording
• 2:13:41
  this in the van right now and everyone's saying things to me,
• 2:13:44
  but we're going to be doing a sale as well. 10 year
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  anniversary of final bout. Check the website.
• 2:13:50
  So it's only for this weekend. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
• 2:13:54
  I guess I hit all my topics and see you guys at the summit.