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  Speaker 1: Cage would I cannot wait to see you in a
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers uniform.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of all right.
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  Speaker 3: Could give you week I can't give your doork of
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  Speaker 3: the week just for that last comment. Hello, everyone, welcome
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  Speaker 3: to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken Rosenthal
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  Speaker 3: here with a lot of rizzo, a lot of good
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  Speaker 3: to be with you. Happy June teenth to everyone, and
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  Speaker 3: what we have to discuss today are some rather interesting
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  Speaker 3: developments in some races that I would say were unanticipated.
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  Speaker 1: Go Ahea's funny that you say that, Ken, because we
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  Speaker 1: thought that the New York Yankees were gonna run away
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  Speaker 1: with the Al East. It looked like they were going
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  Speaker 1: to do so, but it seems that we actually have
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  Speaker 1: a much closer race in that division.
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  Speaker 3: We do, and it's all because the Yankees have a
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  Speaker 3: six game losing streak and the Blue Jays and the
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  Speaker 3: Rays in particular are playing well. The Rays of one,
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  Speaker 3: twenty of twenty seven, the Yankees have lost six straight.
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  Speaker 3: And let's show you the difference in the standings from
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  Speaker 3: one week ago until today in the AL East, because
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  Speaker 3: it's rather striking. Here are the Yankees still leading the division,
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  Speaker 3: but at the same time on June twelfth, they had
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  Speaker 3: a four and a half game lead over Toronto, a
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  Speaker 3: six game lead over Tampa Bay. Okay, let's look at
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  Speaker 3: today and what this looks like, because it is rather different.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay was six out, now one and a half out.
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  Speaker 3: Toronto just two out, just swept the Arizona Diamondbacks. So
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  Speaker 3: we have a race, and we have a race in
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  Speaker 3: large part because the Yankees have stopped hitting inexplicably. They
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  Speaker 3: still lead the American League in runs per game, and
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  Speaker 3: yet over the past week Ilana, they have scored seven
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  Speaker 3: runs in seven games. I want to show you the
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  Speaker 3: difference in their offensive output over the last week because
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  Speaker 3: it's so dramatically different from where they were for the
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  Speaker 3: rest of the season. Here it is first sixty six games,
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  Speaker 3: five and a half runs per game. That's a productive,
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  Speaker 3: robust offense. Last seven games, one run per game. That's
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  Speaker 3: going to get it done a lota.
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  Speaker 1: Now that offense is offensive. Ken Rosenthal, the Yankees, I
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  Speaker 1: always feel we'll get things going, but it has been
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  Speaker 1: horrible for them the last week and change. So we
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  Speaker 1: talked about the Yankee slumping, but they're not the only ones.
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  Speaker 4: Ken.
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  Speaker 1: If you take a look from the al east to
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  Speaker 1: the NL west. Both the San Diego Padres and the
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  Speaker 1: Arizona Diamondbacks, who you just mentioned were swept by the
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  Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. They seem to be on a downward spiral.
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  Speaker 1: What's going on with them?
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  Speaker 3: It's so interesting, Alana, because at the start of the season,
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  Speaker 3: remember the NLS teams, even the Giants could include them
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  Speaker 3: in this particularly discussion, they all came out firing, they
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  Speaker 3: all came out really hot. And yet since about mid April,
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  Speaker 3: both the Diamondbacks and the Padres really haven't played all
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  Speaker 3: that well. They've been below five hundred. I want to
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  Speaker 3: show you what I'm talking about here because it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of again striking to see what these teams have sort
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  Speaker 3: of disintegrated to since mid April. What we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: with Padres and the Giants are again two sub five
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  Speaker 3: hundred teams. Here we go, Padres since April fourteenth, twenty
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  Speaker 3: five and thirty two Diamondback since April seventeenth. Then yes,
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  Speaker 3: I'm picking random dates twenty four and thirty and with
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  Speaker 3: these teams have in common, Alana. And what is so
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  Speaker 3: interesting to me about this situation with both they both
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  Speaker 3: have two starting pitchers that are eligible for free agency
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  Speaker 3: that are really good Zach Gallen and Merrill Kelly for Arizona,
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  Speaker 3: though Gallon isn't having the best of years. Dylan Cees
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  Speaker 3: and Michael King for the Padres, though King is currently
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  Speaker 3: injured and not expected back until the All Star break.
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  Speaker 3: So you might ask, Okay, are these teams looking at selling. No,
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  Speaker 3: they're not looking at selling, and one reason is the
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  Speaker 3: National League wild card standings are rather close. If you
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  Speaker 3: look at the standings and how they are bunched together
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  Speaker 3: the teams that are involved, it's pretty revealing as well,
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  Speaker 3: and it will tell you why these teams are not
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  Speaker 3: going to necessarily concede. Diamondbacks general manager Mike Hazen has
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  Speaker 3: already said, we consider ourselves buyers. We don't plan to
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  Speaker 3: sell now. They could buy and sell. They could trade
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  Speaker 3: a Juheno Suarez, open up third base for Jordan Lawler
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  Speaker 3: rather easily. That's not a problem, and that would be
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  Speaker 3: a buy cell type move. You're selling, but you're also
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  Speaker 3: maybe buying some other things. They need bullpen. But the
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  Speaker 3: Diamondbacks they just placed today Gabriel Moreno on the injured
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  Speaker 3: list along with Corbyn Burns, along with Justin Martinez and
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  Speaker 3: so many others. They're in a tough spot. They've been
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  Speaker 3: very streaky, they haven't played all that well. Corbyn Carroll,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sorry got hit on the hand last night. We'll
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  Speaker 3: have to see how that goes. And then there are
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  Speaker 3: the Padres. And the Padres still have some of the
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  Speaker 3: best players in the game, Tatisan Machado and Jackson Merrill
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  Speaker 3: when he is healthy, but their depth is not what
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  Speaker 3: it was, and their rotation without King and you Darvish,
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  Speaker 3: they were lying on some inexperienced pitchers. And then you
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  Speaker 3: look at left field. That's a hole. The bench needs reinforcement.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't expect aj Preller ever to sell. And
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  Speaker 3: right now the Padres hold the third wild card position.
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  Speaker 3: They should not be even thinking along those lines. The
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  Speaker 3: question is, with a farm system that is not as
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  Speaker 3: strong as it once was, can he buy effectively? Can
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  Speaker 3: he plug his holes? And can the Padres be this
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  Speaker 3: wrecking ball that they were early in the season. Jurry
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  Speaker 3: is out on both these clubs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Haysen certainly isn't the selling type. We know
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  Speaker 1: aj Preller loves to move and shake. He's always a buyer,
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  Speaker 1: especially they're still in this thing, Ken, So we'll see
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  Speaker 1: what the Padres do. I did want to make one correction,
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  Speaker 1: a mistake that I made. The Arizona Diamondbacks have lost
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  Speaker 1: the first two games of the series against the Toronto
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays. Not quite a sweep yet by the Blue Jays,
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  Speaker 1: but they have effectively won that series. With the Diamondbacks,
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  Speaker 1: all right, talking about earlier the Tampa Bay Rays and
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  Speaker 1: how well they're playing, there is some movement in terms
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  Speaker 1: of perhaps selling the team, Ken, what can you tell
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  Speaker 1: us about that?
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  Speaker 3: First of all, on it. Don't kick yourself for that mistake.
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  Speaker 3: That was my mistake, So that's on me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I went with it.
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  Speaker 3: Of the Tampa Bay Rays, we've been hearing rumors about
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  Speaker 3: this for quite some time now, but they issued a
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  Speaker 3: statement yesterday revealing that they are in exclusive discussions with
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  Speaker 3: the Jacksonville home Builder to purchase the team. A couple
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  Speaker 3: things are worth noting here. One, the Rays have kind
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  Speaker 3: of gone down this road before, and having completed the sale,
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  Speaker 3: this seems to be a little bit more advanced, a
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  Speaker 3: little bit more serious than some of the other things
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  Speaker 3: that they've explored. And the other thing is if they
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  Speaker 3: do get sold and the reported price is one point
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  Speaker 3: seven billion. Where do they end up. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: that anyone expects them to end up in Saint Petersburg,
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  Speaker 3: which is, of course where they have played their entire existence.
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  Speaker 3: Tampa would be the obvious possibility. Maybe Orlando as a
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  Speaker 3: long shot, but one we have to see if the
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  Speaker 3: sale goes through. Two, they have to be approved this
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  Speaker 3: new group if this does go through by a Major
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  Speaker 3: League Baseball's ownership. And then three the biggest question, where
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  Speaker 3: do they play, how do they finance the stadium? What's
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  Speaker 3: it going to look like? It's good news for the
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  Speaker 3: Rays because, as I've written, while Stuart Sternberg has been
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  Speaker 3: a good owner for them, they've competed under him. I
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  Speaker 3: know he might not spend the way others do, but
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  Speaker 3: he puts together a competitive team every single season, it seems.
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  Speaker 3: But it just seems like they've gotten to the end
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  Speaker 3: of the road with his ownership. They lost the deal
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  Speaker 3: in Saint Petersburg for a stadium, They kind of backed
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  Speaker 3: out of it, honestly, and he has been unable really
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  Speaker 3: to ingratiate himself with officials in Tampa Bay. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: In Tampa and Saint Petersburg, you could say Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 3: to get a new deal done for a stadium, so
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  Speaker 3: they need new ownership. We'll see if this step, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: is one that gets taken to completion.
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  Speaker 1: Ken is it interesting though, that he has had a
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  Speaker 1: perennial contender really and doesn't spend a ton of money,
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  Speaker 1: yet his team is valued at one point seven billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team obviously that isn't known
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  Speaker 1: for spending, but that's quite a hefty price tag. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Dodgers were purchased back in twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 1: I believe for two billion, and here we are, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with this unbelievable price tag for the Tampa Bay Rays.
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  Speaker 3: One point seven billion is also what the Minnesota Twins
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  Speaker 3: are asking, and it is a big price. At the
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  Speaker 3: same time, a lota, as you know, to the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Lakers, sold to the Los Angeles Dodgers ownership group
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  Speaker 3: yesterday for ten billion. That's where the valuation is on
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  Speaker 3: that one. They took over a majority stake and that's
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  Speaker 3: going to happen. So these things are all relative. But
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  Speaker 3: when we're talking billions of dollars, let's just say the
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  Speaker 3: industry is healthy and let me point out one more time,
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  Speaker 3: and I will point this out repeatedly before the expiration
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  Speaker 3: of the CBA in twenty twenty six. You tell me
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  Speaker 3: why this sport needs to shut down when it's a
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  Speaker 3: twelve billion dollar industry, when teams like the Tampa Bay
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  Speaker 3: Rays are selling for one point seven billion.
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  Speaker 1: All right, it is time for our Grill and Ken segment,
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  Speaker 1: We appreciate that very much. But in addition to taking
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  Speaker 1: So we start there for justin Eyamas, why isn't there
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  Speaker 1: more chatter about Gore Mackenzie Gore being traded than Nats
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  Speaker 1: are terrible. I believe they've lost eleven in a row
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  Speaker 1: and he's a free agent in two and a half
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  Speaker 1: years with Scott Boris as an agent.
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  Speaker 3: Justin you ask an excellent question, and I raised this
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  Speaker 3: point in a calm a couple of weeks ago that
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  Speaker 3: Mackenzie Gore is in the same service position service time
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  Speaker 3: position as Juan Soto was when he was traded by
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  Speaker 3: the Nationals two plus years remaining. That's when the Nationals
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  Speaker 3: traded Sodo. Now, I don't expect them to even entertain Gore.
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  Speaker 3: They're in the middle of this rebuild which has not
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  Speaker 3: really gone all that well. To be perfectly honest, outside
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  Speaker 3: of that one trade, Mike Rizzo's contract has to be
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  Speaker 3: exercised the option in July, as does Davey Martinez is.
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  Speaker 3: Their ownership has been rather disinterested and stagnant, and I
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  Speaker 3: just don't see them taking that kind of step. That
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  Speaker 3: would be an admission that this hasn't gone well and
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to build, so they say, and they claim
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  Speaker 3: it's getting better, So they say, I advise you to
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  Speaker 3: read Ricuoli today in the athletic.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good point. Bridge really does a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous job on that, and that is a good article,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Daniel Rothenberg Ken Rosenthal says this, which team
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  Speaker 1: should go all in this year, even if it means
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  Speaker 1: trading their top prospects?
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  Speaker 3: Basically win now, Daniel, we don't want to give any
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  Speaker 3: heads of baseball operations nervous breakdowns, and the word gives
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  Speaker 3: them a nervous breakdown. I'll give you one team that
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  Speaker 3: I do expect to be aggressive, more aggressive than maybe
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  Speaker 3: we would expect. That's the Cincinnati Reds. They've invested a
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  Speaker 3: lot in this team already, they've got really good pitching,
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  Speaker 3: They've got more pitching coming, and they're a team that
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  Speaker 3: seems to be at least one bad way, but a
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  Speaker 3: team with some promise. And with Terry Francona, you've invested
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  Speaker 3: in him as a manager. I would expect they're going
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  Speaker 3: to do some things. But no team goes all in anymore.
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  Speaker 3: That kind of thing doesn't happen because it's frankly too risky,
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  Speaker 3: and most heads of baseball operations are risk averse.
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  Speaker 1: Hm, risk averse. That's an interesting phrase, all right. A
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  Speaker 1: question from our YouTube chat Ken Rosenthal, this one in
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  Speaker 1: regards to the Houston Astros. Hope you can see that
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  Speaker 1: chat come up here. Louis Cortes says, how are the
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  Speaker 1: Astros still winning? I asked myself this question all the time, Louise.
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  Speaker 1: They have half of their roster on the IL, and
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  Speaker 1: they don't have Kyle Tucker, and they don't have Alex Bregman,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't have Ken. How are they doing it?
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  Speaker 3: Louise. I'm glad you brought this up because I wanted
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  Speaker 3: to mention the Astros in the lead segment, and frankly
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  Speaker 3: I forgot. This is a team that now has a
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  Speaker 3: five and a half game lead in the American League
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  Speaker 3: American League West, and because the Yankees have stumbled, they
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  Speaker 3: now have the second best record in the American League period,
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  Speaker 3: without your Don Alvarez, without Bregman and Tucker, as you
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  Speaker 3: just mentioned, with a number of pitchers on the injured
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  Speaker 3: list as well. What they've gotten is good work from
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  Speaker 3: the bottom of their lineup, guys like Dubon and Cam
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  Speaker 3: Smith and Janer Diaz of course, but it's been surprise.
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  Speaker 3: It's kind of amazing what they do year after year.
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  Speaker 3: It's like you can't kill them no matter what you do.
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  Speaker 3: They keep coming back. And good for the Astros. They're
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  Speaker 3: playing really well and shame on the rest of the
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  Speaker 3: Aos for allowing this all to happen.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like a cockroach. Ken. They just won't die.
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  Speaker 1: Those Houston Astros, they just won't die. There is not
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  Speaker 1: a can of raid big enough for the Houston Astros.
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  Speaker 1: They always win. Obviously a very very good club. All right,
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  Speaker 1: Next question is in regards to extension talks, if you
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  Speaker 1: will for certain players. Bubbs wants to know question for
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  Speaker 1: Grill and Ken and a time where we're seeing more
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  Speaker 1: extensions of young star players, i e. Bobby Witt junior,
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  Speaker 1: who do you think is a prime candidate for a
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  Speaker 1: big extension? He's thinking of Donovan for Saint Louis Donovan.
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  Speaker 3: Brendan Donovan is a really good player and certainly someone
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  Speaker 3: I would think the Cardinals would want to keep and extend.
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  Speaker 3: He's not necessarily young, but he's a guy that, yes,
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  Speaker 3: is outstanding. Extension talk is interesting because a year ago
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  Speaker 3: you would have said, Hey, the Orioles have to extend
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  Speaker 3: Adlie Rutchman, ADLEI Rutchman, He's come on a little bit
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  Speaker 3: of late, But that question now is kind of an
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  Speaker 3: open question. So I don't necessarily see anyone with the
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  Speaker 3: Orioles getting extended, though their fans would like that to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Gunner Henderson represented by Scott Boris, he could be the
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  Speaker 3: next big contract that Boris negotiates. Off the top of
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  Speaker 3: my head, I can give you any number of players
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  Speaker 3: who could be worth extensions. Certainly a guy like Elie
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  Speaker 3: Dela Cruz would qualify, But I don't know that we're
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  Speaker 3: going to get anything like that done at this point
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  Speaker 3: of the season. This is the time of the year
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  Speaker 3: when it's trade talk. Actually it's draft talk. First. The
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  Speaker 3: draft is at the All Star break. Then you hear
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  Speaker 3: more trade talk. Extensions generally are negotiated during the offseason
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  Speaker 3: and especially as we get into the arbitration period in
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  Speaker 3: January and February.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, Video Game Nation, great handle here on the
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  Speaker 1: Utibe Tube. Chat Ken wants to know this. It's regarding
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  Speaker 1: the San Francisco Giants. We all know Dever's now a Giant.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to meet up this weekend with the Boston
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  Speaker 1: Red Sox. Do you think the Giants can make another
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  Speaker 1: blockbuster trade at the deadline. Basically, Buster Posey moving and shaking.
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  Speaker 1: Is he done.
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  Speaker 3: I had a GM point out to me yesterday Alana
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  Speaker 3: that the Dever's trade is probably the biggest trade we're
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  Speaker 3: going to see before the deadline. I thought that was
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  Speaker 3: a reasonably intelligent thing to say and a good way
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  Speaker 3: to look at it. I don't know that Buster Posey,
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  Speaker 3: as President Baseball Operations with the Giants, needs to make
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  Speaker 3: another blockbuster trade. They've got lineup balance, now, they've got
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  Speaker 3: the slugger that they needed with Devers. They're pitching has
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  Speaker 3: been excellent all season. Verlander came back last night. It
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  Speaker 3: was just okay, Buddy's back. I don't know that they
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  Speaker 3: need to do anything major. They're probably going to play
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  Speaker 3: pretty much with the team that they have, maybe tweak
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  Speaker 3: a little bit at the deadline, but they made one blockbuster.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that they need to make another.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as a Dodger fan, I hope that they don't.
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  Speaker 1: But that's neither here nor there. I know nobody was
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: asking me about that, all right. Next question here is
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: in regards to the Saint Louis Cardinals, and it isn't
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: regards of course, to Nolan Ronado. I feel like this
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: kid's name has come up every single time. Not so
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: much a kid anymore, But John Shank wants to know.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Are there any contending teams that would want to trade
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: for Nolan Arenado?
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: Depends on the price, And clearly Arnado has a no
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: trade clause. Let's not forget that, so he can direct
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: his fate in a way that honestly, Raphael Devers could not.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Devers did not have a no trade clause. Arnado is
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: still an elite defensive third baseman. He's not quite the
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: hitter he once was, of course, and yes, there are
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: teams that could use him. But the question becomes, Okay,
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: what about the remaining dollars? How are those dollars divided
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: between the trading team and the acquiring team, And as well,
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: what are you giving up in terms of prospects? That
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: is the expectation of any team entering talks for an
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: Arnado or any player with a big contract. So it
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: seems to me it would be possible. The Cardinals have
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: slid back now, They're not quite where they were, They're
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: still in the middle of the NL wildcard race. But
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: if you're looking at this realistically, are they going to
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: win the World series this year, probably not. They're getting
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: ready for him Bloom to take over as Baseball head
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: of operations. They should be looking at it Arnaudo trade.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: Whether they get one done or not remains to be seen.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Every year the question comes up, is Nolan Arnatto going
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: to be traded? Where is he going to go? Is
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: it going to be before the season, at the deadline, in
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the offseason? What's happening? All right? Final question here on
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Grill and Ken from Mason windu Ken. With the CBA
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: expiring after next season, are we going to see more
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: teams avoid free agent signings and contract extensions until a
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: new collective bargaining agreement is in place?
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Very good question, and I don't know the answer, but
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: my expectation is that nothing will change. Teams will operate
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: business as usual because frankly, they have to put their
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: best possible teams together. They're going to be to do that.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Might some teams refrain, Yeah, it's possible, because certainly with
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: the new CBA, regardless of whether the owners get their
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: beloved salary cap or not, there will be almost certainly
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: new rules in place or tweaks to the current structure.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: That said, generally speaking, you don't see teams necessarily back
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: off when a CBA is coming. You remember a couple
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: of years ago actually going into twenty two CBA when
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: they had that deadline, we all knew the lockout was coming,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and teams went crazy signing players. That's when the Rangers
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: signed Seeger and Simeon. So I don't expect anything really
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to change.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: All right, much more to come on foul territory or
• 19:39
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• 21:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back to fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: dude and dork of the week. Doogie Howser is the
• 21:07
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• 21:10
  Speaker 3: Buster Posey Giants president of baseball operations. Now you can
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: talk about how he took all the money here, the
• 21:15
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• 21:19
  Speaker 3: You can talk about, oh my gosh, he even gave
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: up assets while taking on that money for players. Guess
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: what The Giants for years, for years, have struggled to
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: find a slugger, to get one to come to San Francisco.
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: This was the avenue to do it, the way to
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: do it. He did it. More power to him. Buster
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: Posey to me is a very worthy dude of the
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: week because he showed something that not a lot of
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: heads of Baseball operations show. He showed boldness, guts.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Yes, he showed guts, and that moxie. They missed out
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on show, Heytani. They missed out on Aaron Judges. They
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: were missed out on a lot of folks. They got
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: Rafael Devers. All right, My dude of the week is
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a younger man, m As cage Wood of the Arkansas Razorbacks.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: He threw the third no hitter in College World Series history. Ken.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: He did it on on one hundred and nineteen pitches.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: He struck out nineteen batters. The only base runner was
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a hit batsman in the eighth. It was the first
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: no hitter since nineteen sixty. Then LSU went on to
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: eliminate Arkansas last night. But that's okay. The Tigers are
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: going to face Coastal Carolina in the College World Series Final.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: It starts on Saturday. But cage Wood, I cannot wait
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to see you in a Dodgers uniform.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 22:33
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• 22:45
  Speaker 3: A lot of all right, week, I could give you
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: dog of the Week just for that last comment, but
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I will not be with the Baltimore Oriols last night
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: did something historic. They blew and eight nothing lead, lost
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: to the Tampa Bay Rays twelve to eight. And I
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: want to show you just how historic this was, because
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: our friends at Opti Stats came up with an amazing
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: way to describe how this loss was so just shocking.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: All right, here's what they said. There have been over
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty instances in the modern era of
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: an MLB team allowing eight plus runs in an inning
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: to open the game scoring going down eight nothing. Only
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: one of those teams allowed no runs or hits the
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: rest of the way and came back to win. That
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: team was the Tampa Bay Rays Rays baseball last night. Now,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: the Orioles were the team that had no runs or
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: hits after going up eight nothing. You lose twelve eight.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: You're talking about how we're trying to get back in
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: the race. No, no, no, no, no. Dorks of the Week,
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: you cannot do that. Get no runs after four and
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: eight go ahead.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Long, Yeah, that's unbelievable, My dork of the Week is
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the both sides of the Red Sox and Raphael Dever's equation,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the way that this has been handled the entire season
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: into coming into the season when they signed Alex Bregmann,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: didn't really communicate that with Rafael Devers, the whole situation
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: about how all of this has gone public, how Rafael
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Devers then gets traded to the San Francisco Giants, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: then how he says that he's willing to play anywhere
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: on the field as long as it helps the team win.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: The whole it's just a mess. The whole situation is
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: just an absolute disaster. You know, there's a lot of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: different reports about things that actually happened, things that didn't happen,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: But I tell you, it's just messy. It's ugly. The
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Boston Red Sox fan base is unbelievably upset. Good for
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the Giants, bad for the Red Sox, and it just
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: seems to be a pattern, as you had so eloquently
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: talked about on foul Territory, how the Red Sox getting
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: rid of star players and fan favorites is a pattern. Obviously,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Mookie Betts Xander Bogart's not getting him back, and now
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: Rafael Devers. The whole situation is just awful, all right.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: A little bit more to come on Fair Territory with
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal. For now, we will say goodbye to our
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: friends watching over on nesson Sports at Pittsburgh and nesson Nation.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: We're going to say bye for now, all right. So
• 25:01
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• 25:04
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• 25:26
  Speaker 1: does a tremendous job on that show, Friar Territory. Okay,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: your early thoughts, Ken, you're gonna be on the East
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Coast this week for your game with Fox. Your early
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the Mets and the Phillies. A good division battle.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Well, it's very interesting to see where these teams are
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: right now, Alana, because the Mets, of course, through the
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: early part of the season. Their rotation carried them. Suddenly
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: they're in a bit of a rotation crisis. Canning's not
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: pitching as well, McGill's not pitching as well. You've got
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: Frankie Montas on a rehab assignment and he is getting
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: lit up. And you've Code Sanga Kodea I Sanga on
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: the injured list. So they're in a little bit of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: an uncertain state there, as are the Phillies with their bullpen.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: The Phillies their bullpen of course without Alvarado who has
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: been suspended for a ped violation, and Jordan Romano, he's
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: been up and down lately, down again, So they've got
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: in the back of the bullpen match Strom or Iron Kirkery.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: But other than that, it's kind of shaky. So these
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: are two powerful teams, and of course Bryce Harper remains
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: on the injured list, but there are teams that are
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: not without questions. And when you look at the power
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: and strength of the NL West, the National League remains
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: this fascinating case study. And who is going to be
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: the one that survives this, who is going to win
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: this game of survival of the fittest, We will see.
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: But the Mets and Phillies Right now, they're a little
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: bit down from where they've been, at least in different
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: parts of the season.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of feel like the entire division is
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: a little bit down. I was hoping that Atlanta, of course,
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: would be better as well. Obviously the Marlins are the Marlins.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Don't forget. You can catch the Philly Show also here
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: on the Foul Territory Network. Ken let me ask you
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: before we say goodbye a couple of super chats where
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Loando Martinez Junior wanted to ask you, can the Yankees
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: make it a trade for switch hitter third baseman Brandon Donovan.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I don't believe he is a switch hitter, right. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: think he's left.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Handed right, and that would be a player I'm sure
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: the Yankees would love to have. But if I'm the
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: Saint Louis Cardinals and I'm entering this kind of rebuilding phase,
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: we just talked about a possible extension for Donovan, that
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: is the direction I would be taking with him. You
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: have to have some veteran type players who can set
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: an example for your younger guys. You can't just go
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: all young. The Red Sox know that too, by the way,
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: So I would not be trading Donovan. I'm sure the
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Yankees are lusting after Donovan as they lust after every
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: good player, as the Dodgers lest after every good players.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: A lot of you just mentioned. But those two teams,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: they can't have them all.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: Sorry, no, yeah, you can't, and it's not good for
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: baseball get all of them. Let me ask you this though,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: before we let you go and say goodbye. There is
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: another question on teams going all in, Daniel, rothenberg Helo,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. A's two from him. Why
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: don't teams go all in more? It's risky, but windows
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: close fast. Just ask the Cubs. Chapman helped win one title,
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: but they never got back. And I think you kind
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: of alluded to this before, right, there's folks that don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: like to go all in, Daniel.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: It's a fair question, and it kind of relates to
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: your previous question, if I'm not mistaken about that going
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: all in. The Oils are a great example of a
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: team that should have gone harder with what it had.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: A team coming off back to back playoff appearances, and
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: their off season was simply not good enough. And their
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: thinking has always been, well, next year will be better
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: than this year. Our young players will be even better
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: than the year after that will be better than the
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: one before. It doesn't always work like that. Progressions of
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: players are not always linear, and different things happen along
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: the way, injuries, regressions, all kinds of things. So yes,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: teams do need to be more aggressive when the opportunity
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: is there. And keep your eyes on the Detroit Tigers,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: because that's a team as good as they are. They
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: can reinforce themselves to the deadline and should.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Oh I would love to see that. I would love
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: for the Tigers to have a strong second half like
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: they did last year towards the end of it. But
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: they've been playing so well the entire season.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Fair Territory with Ken Rosenthal is done. Thank you Ken
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: for all the insight and the information. We appreciate it
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: very much. Don't forget guys. Foul Territory is next. Aj Pizinski,
• 29:32
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• 29:35
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• 29:38
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• 29:40
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