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109. Heroes and Villains · Notable Nostalgia

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  Speaker 1: And what if I lost both my hands tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: that they're happy yet.
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  Speaker 1: Lucy receives a call from what I can only assume
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  Speaker 1: is the future winner of every acting award ever.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jennyman is a star. Her look looks weren't part.
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  Speaker 1: Of the issue. He's like, I had to sell my
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  Speaker 1: last top hat for Janas.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this is not appropriate either, but let's see. Hello
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  Speaker 2: nostalgean nerds once again. I am Jeff, I'm Andy. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: welcome to Notable Nostalgia. So today we are going to
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  Speaker 2: be discussing some of our favorite heroes and villains of yesteryear. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I thought, because when I was a kid, I
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  Speaker 2: you know, we idolize heroes, you know, in cinema or
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  Speaker 2: real life. And then also there were some pretty iconic
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  Speaker 2: villains of you know, the nineties and two thousands that
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  Speaker 2: you know need their flowers as well. Sure, so we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna be chatting about heroes and villains of the nineties
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  Speaker 2: I think we have a mix of like real life
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  Speaker 2: villains and real life heroes as well as in pop
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  Speaker 2: culture as well.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I did. Yeah, so I did some that
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  Speaker 1: are real some that are just like you said, cartoons
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  Speaker 1: or TV shows, movies, things like that. So yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: you know, when you when you think about like heroes
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  Speaker 1: and villains, A lot of people think about, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: comic books and things like that. We've briefly touched in
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  Speaker 1: the past about comic books and everything, but if you're
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  Speaker 1: a new listener checking them out for the first time,
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  Speaker 1: did you ever read any comic books growing up or
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  Speaker 1: anything like were you Were you a fan of that
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  Speaker 1: growing up?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I still have some of my old comic
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  Speaker 2: books from I used to collect them from like the
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  Speaker 2: seventies and and so forth, Like I have some like
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  Speaker 2: a lot of X Men was like my jam back
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  Speaker 2: in the day. Yeah, but yeah, no, I liked the
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  Speaker 2: comic books.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah no, I said that people were on the pod.
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  Speaker 1: But one time, when I lived in Florida, at the library,
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  Speaker 1: you could write out comic books, and like an idiot,
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  Speaker 1: I cut out a bunch of the comic book pictures
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  Speaker 1: and posted them on my wall and then in trouble
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  Speaker 1: with the library. So I love that.
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  Speaker 2: I love just and we talked about this before, but
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  Speaker 2: just having like a tangible item, just like it with magazines,
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  Speaker 2: having a comic book, I still I still love to
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  Speaker 2: touch them. Yeah, so it's just nice for sure. What
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  Speaker 2: would make a I know it might be like diverse
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  Speaker 2: picks for our list, but what would make a good villain?
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  Speaker 1: I think the best thing the way. So so when
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  Speaker 1: I when I think villains, I think a villain that's
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  Speaker 1: relatable when it comes to like pop culture and stuff
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  Speaker 1: like that, cartoons, you know, I think of a villain
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  Speaker 1: that's relatable. And the thing that I think is the
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  Speaker 1: most important aspect of any villain is one that they
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  Speaker 1: think they are doing good. But maybe that's not the
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  Speaker 1: majority thought. So, like, I don't know, I'm not a
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  Speaker 1: big fan of the Marvel movies. But Thanos he was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the universe getting overpopulated or something, I don't know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: so we have to get rid of half of the people.
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  Speaker 1: So he thought he was actually saving the universe by
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  Speaker 1: doing that, which is he's killing half of the people
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  Speaker 1: in the whole universe, but for in his head a
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  Speaker 1: good reason. So you could see how somebody would get
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  Speaker 1: to that conclusion eventually, so then it's a little more relatable.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I think is a good villain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. Mine's more like when I think
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  Speaker 2: villain of in pop culture, I think of just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more campy and a little bit more I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, like a character, a character acting, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: but but I always scided with the villain, especially like
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  Speaker 2: Disney was such a huge part of our generations upbringing,
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  Speaker 2: and the villains were just like five Star with a
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  Speaker 2: scar and ja'afar and yeah, like it was just they
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  Speaker 2: were more flamboyant and whimsical then sometimes the protagonist was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think another good aspect of making villain
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  Speaker 1: in those type of situations like cartoons and movies, like
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  Speaker 1: I said earlier, is them to really push the hero,
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  Speaker 1: because you really can't have a hero. You can in
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  Speaker 1: an aspect in a way of them overcoming like physical bearers, right,
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  Speaker 1: but like if somebody if they if they haven't there,
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  Speaker 1: if they're if somebody's having issues getting over like oh
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  Speaker 1: some crazy like river that's rapid, right, and they get over,
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  Speaker 1: You're not going to be like that's a hero. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, but if somebody stops evil from happening evil
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  Speaker 1: from happening, then that is a good hero, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I feel like a good villain creates a good hero.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they're kind of it's a yin yang thing,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like you need one for the other.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's really poetic that. Let's dive into some of
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  Speaker 2: our top villains in our personal opinions. Top villain, let's
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  Speaker 2: do number three?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want me to do it a first year?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: You go this. Yeah, So I had to get this
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  Speaker 1: person out of the way just because I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people think this might be the worst villain
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  Speaker 1: of all time, which I totally get Hitler.
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  Speaker 3: The Nazi announcement of the death of Atoll of Hitler
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  Speaker 3: followed the anticipated pattern.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so Hitler's my number three. Oh Jesus, yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's something came out of the way. Hitler was a
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  Speaker 1: pretty bad dude. It's like one person that I think universally,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're like a white supermacist, yes, so
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  Speaker 1: almost universally. Unless you really like Hitler, then I guess
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  Speaker 1: you'd be your hero. Anyways, for the vast majority of
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  Speaker 1: human humans, since like nineteen forty four, they've been for
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  Speaker 1: the most part anti Hitler, and I think you can't
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  Speaker 1: really have a better villain to wur. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know the exact number. I'm going to say ninety
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  Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of every human that has been
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  Speaker 1: alive since nineteen forty four dislikes him. Yeah, So I
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  Speaker 1: mean you can talk about percentage wise, like Polepot he
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  Speaker 1: was a piece of shit. For like Cambodia, he killed
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  Speaker 1: like it's like almost seventy percent of the population there,
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  Speaker 1: but it was a lot less people. So I think
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  Speaker 1: he killed like I don't know the exact numbers, like two
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  Speaker 1: million out of three million people. Right, horrible, horrible asshole.
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  Speaker 1: But nobody really knows about Polepot, right because I guess
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  Speaker 1: he killed brown people for the most for I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know that much about him.
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  Speaker 1: But for Hitler, it's taught a lot because you can
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  Speaker 1: see how easily people can be manipulated into believing something
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  Speaker 1: so radical. So that's another reason I was talking about
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  Speaker 1: earlier about like how people can come to that conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: Like I don't agree with anything Hitler did at all, Right,
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  Speaker 1: but I could see his thought process building up to that. So,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, after World War One, they had not
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  Speaker 1: the gen Eva Convention, they had the Treaty of Versailles,
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  Speaker 1: where I can't remember the zach number, there was like
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty bills or something like that, and
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  Speaker 1: like out of the one hundred and fifty, Germany got smashed,
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  Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty five of them. So they
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  Speaker 1: had to like pay reparations to every country even though
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  Speaker 1: they weren't the only one participating in the war, and
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  Speaker 1: they got really fucked over, right, So then you can see, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that's gonna make Hitler angry. And you learned about
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  Speaker 1: his dad and how he used to beat him a lot. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you can see now why that person's angry the way
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  Speaker 1: he is. And then Hitler was in World War One.
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  Speaker 1: He went blind for a little bit because he got
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  Speaker 1: hit with mustard gas, and then he got his eyesight
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  Speaker 1: back when a lot of people didn't think he was
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  Speaker 1: going to. So now you see those the making of
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  Speaker 1: him going like, oh, maybe I'm here for something special,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I have to save the German people. And man,
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  Speaker 1: now I'm kind of talking like he's like a hero.
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  Speaker 1: But that's not my point that the Yeah, exactly, you
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  Speaker 1: can see how somebody that fucked up getting beat as
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  Speaker 1: a kid and just going through war, seeing all that
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  Speaker 1: trauma stuff, going blind for a little bit, coming back
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  Speaker 1: and then his countries and shambles, he can't find work,
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  Speaker 1: So you can see how somebody would start finding reasons
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  Speaker 1: to lash out and say, oh, well it has to
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  Speaker 1: be the Treaty Versailles and what else. Oh Jews, even
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  Speaker 1: though the Jewish population in Germany was less than one percent, Right,
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  Speaker 1: that's crazy. But no, my point is you can definitely
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  Speaker 1: see how somebody like that became the way they are,
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  Speaker 1: and it only takes a little bit for people to
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  Speaker 1: start having those radical views and everything, so that makes
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  Speaker 1: that extra scary. But my main reason why he's a
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  Speaker 1: villain is because I think ninety nine point nine percent
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  Speaker 1: of every human since nineteen forty four thought he was
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  Speaker 1: a villain. So you have to put him on the list.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's like my favorite, but he's definitely
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  Speaker 1: a villain.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get worse than Hitler unless it's like
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  Speaker 2: Satan or.
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  Speaker 1: King Leopold's really bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of really fucked up people.
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  Speaker 1: But also another thing with like World War Two is
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  Speaker 1: it was all recorded, not all of it, but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of it was, so it's the first time people
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  Speaker 1: are seeing those atrocities too, So that takes a lot
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  Speaker 1: into it. And it wasn't just him. There's a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of people around him working with it. But he's just
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  Speaker 1: an awful piece of shit, horrible villain.
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  Speaker 2: And we make a lot of jokes about Hillary because
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  Speaker 2: he was like a bad guy, so like we're not
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  Speaker 2: going to praise him. But when I say that he's
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  Speaker 2: a friend to the podcast, yeah, like like you know
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  Speaker 2: what he's.
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  Speaker 1: If he was alive now, I do think he would
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  Speaker 1: have a podcast, Oh sure, Like he would be the
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  Speaker 1: dude that's like Andrew Tate, like you know, and he's
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  Speaker 1: like the stupid ship. When he was younger, he would
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  Speaker 1: go out and try to pick up girls and his
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  Speaker 1: nickname for himself when they met. When he met a girl,
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  Speaker 1: he's like, they call me the wolf. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: he's a fucking yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like what's like a little sports car like a to
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  Speaker 2: like being sexy about a band driving one of them.
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  Speaker 2: I could barely get in one because I'm like larger
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  Speaker 2: and taller, but no like no like Hitler's like I
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  Speaker 2: think Hillar gives. We give the Hitler two thumbs down.
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  Speaker 1: But you know who I think my like Hitler a
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  Speaker 1: little bit now is your sister because he was a vegetarian.
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  Speaker 2: Oh boom, yeah, so Jesse, we know that.
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  Speaker 4: Just kid.
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  Speaker 2: But there's like a good qualit while anti smoking, yeah
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  Speaker 2: and he's smoking. I'm sure he was. He was good kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he believed in people working out daily. No, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he's awful.
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  Speaker 2: So keeping on track with people that lived in real life.
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  Speaker 2: My number three villain of all time is Michelle Trackenberg.
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  Speaker 5: Well, young Michelle Trachtenburg gained Hollywood fame as a child star.
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  Speaker 5: During the nineteen nineties, she was being relentlessly bullied at school. Sadly,
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  Speaker 5: the bullying that Tracktenburg was subjected to in elementary school
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  Speaker 5: didn't stop once she left. In her interview with Complex,
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  Speaker 5: she related further incidents that took place throughout her time
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  Speaker 5: in school, saying, when I was in junior high school,
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  Speaker 5: there was a whole gang of girls who would push
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  Speaker 5: me into lockers and steal my clothes after Jim so
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't have anything to wear. That abuse continued unabated
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  Speaker 5: in high school, with one girl in particular who made
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  Speaker 5: it her mission to create problems for her. Trackedenburg recalled
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  Speaker 5: she'd tell the teacher horrible lies about me. She dated
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  Speaker 5: a couple of my friends, and when we were all
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  Speaker 5: out one night, she took someone's vodka bottle and chucked
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  Speaker 5: it at.
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  Speaker 1: Me, almost on the same She was pretty horrible.
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  Speaker 2: So I just don't like her, and listener, like, you
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  Speaker 2: know how I feel about her. I don't think she's
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  Speaker 2: talented just because she happened to get in some like
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  Speaker 2: TV series in the nineties. Who gives a fuck? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Like a lot of people got TV series in the nineties, right,
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  Speaker 2: not me or you, but like they were. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: my notes I wrote this is not appropriate, but let's
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  Speaker 2: see if it makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Only good quality about her, Oh, that's nice of me.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Only good quality about her is that she educated the public.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool. She taught us that pubes could be used
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  Speaker 2: as hair extensions. Oh I love that. That's so Like
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: who knew? Who knew that you can shave your pubic
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  Speaker 2: hair and tape it onto your head?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Now you know? Yeah, she ruins every whatever show. So Buffy,
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  Speaker 2: Weeds gossip Girl. As soon as she joined the cast,
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  Speaker 2: the show would usually be canceled one or two or
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  Speaker 2: three seasons later. She's not a good actress. She's not
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  Speaker 2: not that you have to be like a certain way
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  Speaker 2: to look to be a movie like one of my
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  Speaker 2: I think Uma Thurman is a movie star movie star,
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  Speaker 2: but I don't think that she's conventionally beautiful. Michelle Trackenberg
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  Speaker 2: is clickbait fodder. She posted like a gnarly ass photo
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  Speaker 2: of herself just to get trolls like me to attack her,
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  Speaker 2: which I choice did I have? And then BuzzFeed picked
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  Speaker 2: it up that she was getting trolled with how she looked.
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  Speaker 2: If you look like hammered dog shit, people are gonna
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  Speaker 2: tell you like hammered dog shit. Like if I poop
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  Speaker 2: on the floor right here, Andy, and I told you
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  Speaker 2: that's beautiful, that's a lie.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say I don't agree with that, and
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  Speaker 1: I'd have to tell you why I think it's awful. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So Michelle Trackenberg is a dumb in Andy's room. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so anyway, so I just think she's a nobody. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like her. If she's listening, Fuck you, Michelle Krackenberg
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  Speaker 2: you're nobody. You're never going to take Sarah Michelle Geller
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  Speaker 2: or Jennifer up Hewitt stardom. You're not them.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, I just don't like you.
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  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question. If you had
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  Speaker 1: to live in an apartment with either Hitler or Michelle
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  Speaker 1: Kachnenberg for two weeks, who would you choose?
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  Speaker 2: Hitler kind? He clearly takes pride in how he looks
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  Speaker 2: and dresses very organized. Yes, he's not a pile of
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  Speaker 2: dog shit like she looks like my dog had like
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  Speaker 2: eight human food he met his looks. Oh, yeah, he's
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. He would just would be more work.
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  Speaker 2: I would strongly disagree with his political but we would
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  Speaker 2: just we would come to that. We would be like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: let's keep politics out of the house.
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  Speaker 1: You get the kitchen between four and six, between six
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  Speaker 1: and eight, Yeah, and we just won't talk about your
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  Speaker 1: crazy views.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, only use only use the oven for cooking, for cooking. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but no, yeah, Michelle Chuckerberg, fuck you. Okay, in the now,
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  Speaker 2: we have to My blood pressure is going through the roof. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what is your number three hero of all time?
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  Speaker 1: I am gonna go with someone that I feel like
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people listening to this podcast grew up
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  Speaker 1: watching and learning what a hero is by watching this
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  Speaker 1: little individual. When I say little, I mean stature, they're tiny.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy Pickles, I.
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  Speaker 4: Said, what do I do?
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  Speaker 2: What do I do? Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean Tommy Pickles for us because the
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  Speaker 1: show came out like the nineteen nineties, ninety one right
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  Speaker 1: around there, so you know, but with I was young
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  Speaker 1: to watch when I first came out, but with reruns,
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  Speaker 1: I grew up watching rugrets all the time. And Tommy
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  Speaker 1: Pickles is like maybe the first person I really remember
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  Speaker 1: watching that stood up for what's right and wrong even
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  Speaker 1: when it seemed like there is no way to win.
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  Speaker 1: He was the first one to show me like, you
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  Speaker 1: stand by your friends, you always have their backs, you
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  Speaker 1: stand up for little people. Like there's an episode where
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  Speaker 1: they go to this park and it's like a Western
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  Speaker 1: theme park, and the villain and that one's called like
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  Speaker 1: the junk food Kid or something, piece of shit asshole.
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  Speaker 1: There's this little girl there that they're hanging at him
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  Speaker 1: and Chuck you're hanging out with, and the junk food
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  Speaker 1: Kid throws gum in her hair and she has to
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  Speaker 1: get her hair cut at you know, like and it's
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  Speaker 1: super sad, you know, But the next day Tommy's like,
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  Speaker 1: we gotta go back. We have to make this right.
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  Speaker 1: We can't have someone like this bullying people. Bullying people.
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  Speaker 1: I said that word, and then he even made Chucky
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  Speaker 1: sometimes stronger. So I think that's really good heroes. Not
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  Speaker 1: only when you're able to, you know, do something that
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  Speaker 1: you're afraid of by yourself, but if you can actually
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  Speaker 1: bring up the people around you to make them stronger,
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  Speaker 1: more people, that's a hero in my book. So, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Tommy Pickles was a g back then, voiced by the
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  Speaker 1: beautiful not Tara Reid. What's her name?
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  Speaker 3: Tara?
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  Speaker 1: Damn it? She also does like powerpuff Girl. She has
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  Speaker 1: so many voices. She's like super hot too me.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I know you're talking about she. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: video of her, like what her house looks like and
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  Speaker 2: she has money.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, she's a lot of things. Tara. Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: she's gonna try me crazy.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: What is it Egen Dally No, No, yeah it is.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: I just google it. It's this broad Oh who does
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: what the oh Tara Strong till Pickle. Oh yeah, she's
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: a way cuter.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Oh who does she do? She does?
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Uh Dill and tim Oh, I thought.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Wow, okay, am I bad? Then all right? But I
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: thought it was Tara Strong. Tara Strong was banging.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: But Egen Dally, if you're listening, like, kudos to you.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: You have money, good for you, and like, honestly, you
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: have a face for voice over work. So okay, I
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: love the heroic adventures that he went on. But he
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: also had understanding for Chucky, who was his best friend,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: who was more scaredy cat. And he also had compassion
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: and understanding for Angelica, Yes, who Now just thinking about
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, she should maybe she should have been
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: on my list of villains because she was complex.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: I was thinking about that. But the reason it's hard
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: for me to put on her list is because now
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: as an adult, I've had kids. No, I have kids.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Had yeah, not anymore? Uh no, I have kids. And
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: the reason she acted out so much is because her
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: mom was never around. Her dad didn't pay attention to her.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, she's just like a victim of
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: her surroundings. So that's kind of sad to like hate
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: on a little kid like that.
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: You know, But her mom was always on the phone.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yea who she talking to?
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: But and then the dad was a little pussy life
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: into spaces. So so my number three hero of all
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: time is Terminator two Judgment Day. Terminator, come with me
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: if you want to live. It's okay, Mom, shoot him,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Oh I haven't seen it. Oh my god, we have
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: to do an episode.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Honestly, like, I hate like more than I hate a
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: lot of things. I hate it when people are like, oh,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you need to watch this movie. I'm like, listener, you
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: can't see if I'm doing like a jerk off emotion.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: I just hate it when people say, watch this movie,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to be that person. Terminator two Judgment
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Day is that it was one of the best movies.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Definitely one of the best sequels of all time. So
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: in the first Terminator, so Sarah Connor played by Linda Hamilton,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: who was married to the guy who directed Titanic. Oh Jams.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was their back like that. So in
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: the first in the first movie, the Terminator comes back
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: to kill her because she's gonna produce John Carter, who's
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: gonna like be a resistance leader. So in the second one,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: she's now in a mental hospital because She's like, oh,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: these robots in the future are Truman to kill me.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: And he comes back, but it's actually John Carter in
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: the future sends this Terminator back to protect her and John,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and it's just like a fucking badass movie. Linda Hamilton
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: is fucking hot, like just badass hero of all.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, and I think he's a great assor.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: It's so good in this And then do you remember
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Salute your shorts, the Redhead, mischievous kid. He's not the
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: not the tubby guy that oh.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah he's in the tubby guy was Donkeys.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's going through it. Follow him on social media.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's such a good movie. I might switch
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: it now. Actually I think about it. Instead of the
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Terminator being my number three hero, I'm gonna say it's
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: Sarah Connor played by Linda Hamilton and Jackson, my kid
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: has that game, you know, Fortnite. You play the video
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: game and there's different skins, like different people you can
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: dress up ass and I purchased my own and I
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: bought Sarah Connor so I can be Sarah conn Like
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Linda Hamilton is amazing. And I rewatched one of the
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: reboots or whatever of Terminator when she's back in it,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: she's a fucking badass. She's like sixty or seventy. She's
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: just amazing. I love Sarah, I love Linda.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Linda, You're not the only one to tell me to
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: watch that movie, so I do need to watch it. Yeah, yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and we should do.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: It is NonStop action. It's heavy because there's like the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: human element because we make these this technology. It's it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: such a good movie.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I can't. My buddy Loose loves that movie. And he's
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: the other one that always like, dude, you gotta fucking
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: watch this, and he always goes, I have it on
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: blu ray can borrow, and I'm like, I appreciate it,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: but I'll just run it, like I don't like a
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: blue erring anyways. But maybe if we do thew we
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: can have him on.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: He's really cool. Yeah, Like, and it's just like such
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: a trip to because in the first one Sarah Connor
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: is very like Damsel in distress kind of thing, and
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the second one she's badass. And then so the In
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the first one, Arnold Schwarzenegger is the villain, but in
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: the second one he's the hero and sidebar before he
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: cheated on his wife Maria Strever with his maid and
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: had a bastard child. You know who Mary Striver is, Yeah,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Kennedy Kennedy. Yeah, she's John F. Kennedy's sister's daughter. So
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: she actually wished Guska has my dog Happy Birthday at
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Guscu's underscore the Dog.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Do I need to watch one to enjoy Terminator two?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Or will it stand alone on his own?
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: It will stand alone on its own. The only thing
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: that would add to it by watching Terminator one is
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the conflict of Sarah Connor seeing this terminator that tried
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to kill her. Oh. Sure, now he's trying to.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Protect Otherwise I'd be like, why does she hate him?
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And she hates Austrian people.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: They deal with Hitler, they deal with time travel, and
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: it gets kind of mucky in the first one because
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: John Carter in the future also sends back a human
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: to save his mom. The human and Sarah have innercourse
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and they produce John. But how does that work if
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: how was John borne to send this guy back to
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: impregnate his mom in the first So you have to.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Saying that's why I don't believe in backwards time travel. Yeah,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: because it can create a paradox, and if you have
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: a paradox, you can't like imagine this. Let's say you
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: create a time portal, right, yeah, and you go back
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: in time thirty seconds before you get in that time purtal.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: But you shoot yourself when you come.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Back, so then that that initial reality never exists.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and it creates a paradox. But then then it
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: couldn't have happened because it created a paradox.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because if if you kill yourself the before you
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: go back in time, then you never killed yourself then exactly. Yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: we can't deal with that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: So back in I do believe that there is four
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: four word time travel. But the further you get away
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: from like gravity and the faster you go will actually
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: speak down time. Yeah, but I don't think go back
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: in time.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: That was really brave of you to say forward that
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: hard work. I have. I avoid that too. That word word, Oh,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: that's two syllables of nonsense.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: It's a lot of them. The issue for hours when
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: there's too many rs too many rs like, if there's
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: too many rsn in a word or a sentence, it
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: starts to becoming difficult.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: I just always because I had a speech therapist who
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: was like, one day you're gonna if you don't take
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the seriously and learn how to speak, one day you're
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: going to be in front of people giving a speech
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and people are making fun of you.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: That was an adult. Like I was like, fuck, could
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: you imagine as an adult and you're like giving a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: speech and that's like people the eyes go.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Hey, shut up.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought you knew how to talk. Dumb, dumb,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: but we don't do that or are we allowed to
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: be doing that?
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Because I fight with like wedding is out?
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah you think it's true. Yeah, kids are so dumb?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Okay, Annie, who is your second favorite villain?
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked Jeff, because, uh, my second villain
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that I chose was when I was a kid, I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: saw this movie. It came out in nineteen eighty nine,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: so we're pretty close to the nineties. But when I
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: was a kid, I saw when I saw this movie,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I've already seen one and two and this is on
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the third one, and I remember as a kid, I
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: was thinking, like, why is this adult so happy that
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: he's injuring this child? What is this karate Kid? Three? Oh?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Do you remember Terry Silver or is it Silver? It's Silver,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Terry Silver. He was the guy with the black ponytail.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Visualize, this is not a bunch of sticks and pipes anymore.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: This is a living, breathing, fighting machine that wants to
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: detest your head from the rest.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Of your body.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It's blood, so make believe it's his. This guy wants
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: to break humiliate you.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Stop in the crowd.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So if anybody that doesn't know karate Kid and karate
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Kid won, it's like a local thing, right, Uh karate
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Kid win's this karate tournament and number two they go
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: back to Japan we're missing Miaugi is from and number
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: three the Cobra Kai. They lost number one. So Crease
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: was the sense in Uh karate Kid number one and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: he went to Vietnam with this guy from number three.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: So we thought John Crease was dangerous. Oh no, he
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was a tip of the iceberg, my friend. Because he
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: calls his buddy Terry Silver up, and so Terry Silver
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: comes up, manipulates Danny and uh gets him to join
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Terry Silver's way of training because Miyagi's like, you've already won,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you don't need to win again, you know, And then
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: he manipulates him enough to where he starts injuring himself
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: because he puts these two by fours up, and then
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Danny has to fucking like break these like pieces of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: wood and he's like bleeding. And then Terry Silver, an adult,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: is like, this kid is bleeding and hurting himself over
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: this karate tournament. But as a kid, I was like, why.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Does he care?
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: Why did? He's an adult, Like, he's a rich adult male,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: Why the fuck would he care to beat this kid
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: enough to where he gets pure enjoyment from someone's pain.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So I think that makes him a really good villain.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: For number one, John Cries was pretty bad, but it's
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: because there was like the pride of his dojo, you know,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: because they keep winning, and now this person comes up
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: and wins. Okay, you can see why he hates him
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: so much. But this third guy doesn't know anything. He
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just likes watching this kid get hurt. And I'm like,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: that's fucking really evil.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: I got reintroduced to that character, says watching Cobra Kai
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: with Jackson, and you've seen Cobra Kai.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Season one and two. Cobra Kai I thought were great.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: It gets kind of downhill, but I still watch him all.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I really like this is true and andy for the listener,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: this is Terry Silver now, like he looks kind of
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: like an understudy for like a Helen Muran playing like it's.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So fucking good, Like like.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: If Helen Muran was on Broadway for like a special appearance,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Terry Silver would be her understudy.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: Will you please screenshot instead of to me, we need
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: it for.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: The art he's he yeah. And then I appreciated about
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Cobra Kai because it's the same thing. All of these
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: adults are like everything and they have their you know,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Danny has his career and his family, his kind of
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: like front of me, the blonde adult male is kind
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: of going through life's struggles. But all these people are
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like But then Danny's wife is kind of like the
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: voice of reason, like this is.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: All about karate. Yeah, and.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: So I appreciate that character of the mom well.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I think in season one and two they they played
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that really well to where they were kind of like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: joking about what they were doing. They were talking about
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: how kind of silly it was. And then after that,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: like I think for the most part, almost any TV
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: show after season one or two, it starts going downhill
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: just because like you know, you think anyways, I have
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: a whole I don't want to get into it, but yeah, no,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I think it's really funny. And if you haven't watched
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Cobra Kai, I definitely recommend season one and two. You're
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gonna want to finish it just because a lot of
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: the characters I really like. But yeah, it's a good show.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: And I forget the guy's name, but he has a
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: brief role, a smaller role in some of like the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: later of Cobra Kai. He's the I'm so bad describing him.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Is he the bad the fat bad guy?
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: He's chubby. Yeah, he seems like sting Ray. Yeah, yeah,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: fucking love him. I watched this show with Kristen Bell,
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: who I love and who everyone loves, and it's about
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: these two fronts, you know, like christ she's amazing, She's
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: she's somebody like you know how Betty White and Dolly
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Parton they just like transcend like political.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I can't stand your husband though, Dax's I can't.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: No, Yeah, he's the fucking worst, fucking worst. How he
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: got her I don't understand. But she is so fucking talented, amazing, beautiful,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: singing apparent sidebar, you know who's a singer who's like
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: really fucking talented. No, Kate Hudson, Oh really, Kate, she's
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: doing a singing thing now, Goldiehan's daughter, and she is
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: a good fucking singer.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Anyways, Goldiehan more like Oldie Hans, so old she recently.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's amazing, Like she looks like, uh, she looks
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: like a giant after being game banged by fifty guys
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: in thirty minutes. I don't know, like she's just like
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't watch game bane porn, but
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: she just looks like hammer Dog ship too. But she's
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: so amazing though, because I love like home Setter Overboard.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Is overboard with yeah and Oregon.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah they have, even though the location doesn't really
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: make sense that you can see. Uh oh you like
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: to be verse. Oh that's cool, that's okay. So who
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: was yours Terry Silver from Yeah, no, he just looks
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: very hairless. Yes, so anyway, so, uh so my number
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: two similar vibe is somebody else who has probably very
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: oily silky skin, somebody with white hair. Now is none
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: other than and this one is not like a hater
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Gary Close. I did the og in my favorite Let's
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: get to the point. Jeff Ursula, I.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: Make you a potion that will turn you into a
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: human for three days.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Got that three days?
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: Now, listen, this is important. Before the sunsets on the
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: third day.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: You've got to get dear Old Princy to fall in
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: love with you.
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: That is, he's got to kiss you, not.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Just any kid, the kiss of true love.
• 31:04
  Speaker 6: If he does kiss you before the sunsets on the
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: third day.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: You'll remain human permanently.
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: But if he doesn't, you turn back into a mermaid and.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: You belong to me. Have we got to do? I
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: love and this is one Like I don't I hate
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that stupid asshole Michelle Trackenberg, But I love Ursula.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: It's like a villain you love to.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Hate amazing, Like I love the over the top theatrics
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: She was.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: The look of Ursula was inspired by the drag queen divine.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool. Yeah, I love that. Yeah.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: And Andy and I went to go see a point
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: at the poster went to go see PGS Christ a
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: drag performer do kind of like a cabaret with mink
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: met mink stole from like Hairspray and Pink Flaming goes
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. So I just love that that
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: there's like a drag element with a Disney movie from
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the early nineties and the song Poor Unfortunate Souls is
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: so amazing and I love it, and I'm I do
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: have a little beef with the remake with the live
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: action one, even though it's fabulous.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: I see her watching it, I couldn't finish it.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they take out the in Poor Unfortunate Souls, the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: kind of misogynistic verses about like the men up that
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: are in like a lot of blabbert like that kind
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of thing. But I think that she said it's a
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: villain song and anyway, so I've kind of heard about that.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: But I love Melisa McCarthy playing that role.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I love Melissa McCarthy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's amazing. And then what else do I love about?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: And then if you want, I can play play you
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: a little sample of when I performed that last time.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, switch and I un it's a ton
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: of that I always have.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Like that was you you killed it?
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, paparazzi all over me. When we were
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: we went to a restaurant in town and they just
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: randomly had karaoke. I didn't know about it. So we
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: performed karaoke.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Drinking or is it just like it was that tap brute.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I think they had karaoke. So I was like, oh,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: I'll do this. And then afterwards this guy came up
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: to me, was like and showed me his leg and
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: he had Ursula and like flats and jets some like
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: the eels on his leg tattooed. I was like, oh,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: so I love that. And then I just recently started
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: getting into like I'm bad with the names, but anime
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: and I saw an anime last month that actually had
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Pat Carroll who voiced Ursula in the ant like doing
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: like the American you know, Doug version. So but I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: just love love Ursula. She's the best.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, she she killed it. When I was a kid,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: her and those fucking eels were scary.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: Ship.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So that's a great first memory of like true villain,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like especially being in the dark, like you know the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: way they did the animation for that, It's always dark
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: and they kind of slither out and everything, and you know,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: that could be the reason I hate the ocean so much.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I fucking hate the ocean. And I do remember being
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: a little kid having an issue. I remember talking to
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: my mom and my sister about this, and I was,
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably like six, I have five, seven, eight,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I remember asking. I was like, well,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: why did she have to change for him? Talking about
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the Mermaid? Yeah, Ariel, And I remember thinking that was
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: an issue. And then I remember when my daughters were
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: little and they watched that. I remember telling them, I'm like,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but remember, you never have to change for a guy.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: If you choose to do that, that's totally cool, but
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: don't change yourself to get a guy, you know, because
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I always thought that was kind of fucked up. You know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: why didn't he try to change into a mermaan?
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: And you see, yeah, even after the climax has happened,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: she still becomes a human, right. But also, Ursula didn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: really do anything wrong. She made a deal. You don't
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: get something for nothing. She gave her legs and the
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: ability to be and all she was asking for was
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: the payment. So that's three.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Days a business deal.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I just I love Ursula. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: think she's fabulous. And then and then yeah, I think
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that's a banger. I was gonna say, you're murvihy music person,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: but a lot of times in like especially with Ursula,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: but other Disney villains of that time, they play a
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: lot of wind instruments. Yeah, and like trumpets and that
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, but the heroes don't. So I'm wondering
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: if that's like kind of like a biblical thing, because
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: like when the End of Times is happening, we're gonna
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: hear trumpets from the sky.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: But I feel like the trumpets are a good thing.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Though it's still the end of Times, but it is.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, So, I don't know. I just I
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: like that vibe more so. She's fabulous. I love her.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: No, that's a great pick, have, very good Yeah for sure.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: All right, So who is your number two?
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: You're heero, I'm gonna go with I think everybody knew
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: this gonna be on my list. I have multiple tattoos
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: of this person. It's good to be Elle Batsman. Oh,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I don't know why I sund like that.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I'm beneous. I am the Night Batman.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: But no, Bruce Wayne Batman. As a kid, he was
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: my very first like comic book person that I really
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: fucking got into. The very first issue of Batman was
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: released in nineteen thirty nine, It was created by Bob
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Kane and Bill Finger. It was the twenty seventh issue
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: of Detective Comics, which is now DC Comics. But I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: think the reason that drew me to Batman over any
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: of the other superheroes is because he didn't have any
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: special powers except for kind of his intellect. He was
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: a detective. He thought stuff out. That's why Batman can
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: be anybody if he's given a little bit of prep time,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: because he'll think of everything. He one time he had
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: to take down the entire Dress League by himself, which
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: means he took down Wonderulman, Superman, the Green Lantern, Flash, Cyborg, Martian, Manhunter.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: He took them all down by himself because he had to.
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people go like, well, okay, well,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: so if it was Batman versus Superman, who would win
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: in a fight? And I go, of course Batman would
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: because he's already done that before, and they go, no, Superman,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: if he really wanted to, he would just kill Batman instantly.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: So then I go, oh, so, but that's not that's
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: not Clark Kent Superman. That is a different type of Superman,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: because Batman knows how Superman is. He knows Superman won't
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: kill him. He knows that Superman has humanity. So if
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: you're asking me if a different person, I'm sorry, I
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: don't know I'm getting on there. But if you're asking
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: me if somebody that was evil had Superman Superman's powers
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: versus Batman, yes, probably Superman would win. But if you
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: gave Batman a little bit of prep time to know
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: about that person with the power, he would beat them,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: just like he beats Superman. So that's one reason I
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: really like Batman. And two I always felt like he
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: didn't need to be doing this. He's doing it at
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the goodness of his heart. But then once I got older,
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he has a lot of fucked
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: up demons in his head, that's why he's doing this.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: But as a kid, I was like, Oh, you could
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: just be a billionaire if you wanted to and not
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: do anything. You just enjoy his life. But no, he's
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: saving the world. But he's doing it to like try to,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: you know, because his parents are murdered and everything, so
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he's trying to get something from that. He's trying to
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: make the world a better place because of that. So
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: he's forced to do it. But No, yeah, I think
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Batman has some of the greatest stories. I think that's
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: a really good origin story, you know, because how fucked
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: up would that be to see both your parents shots
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to death and then never figure out who did it. Yeah,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they say that the person that did it was Joe Chill,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: but no, you know, but he's never been able to
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: find his parents' killers, so then he's trying to make
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the world a better place. But no, I just love
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Batman so much. I think he's cool. I think the
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Darkness is really cool. Yeah, overall, I just I think
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he's my second favorite hero.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Who's your favorite incarnation of him? In?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I think you're talking about movies? Oh yeah, yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Oh so if it goes for live action movies. Ben Affleck,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: I think Ben Affleck played the Dark Night comic book
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Batman so fucking good. It was great. I And there's
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: a scene before you leave, I have to show you.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Did you ever watch the Snyder cut of the Justice League?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I just want to show you the ending, and then
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: before you leave, we just have to watch the ending.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But I think Ben Affleck perfectly embodied My favorite comic
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: book is The Dark Knight from the comic book series
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: you know, but I think he did a great he's older.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: Ben Affleck fucking killed it. I love it so much.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: But my favorite Batman of all times probably gonna be
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Kevin Connrroy just because and he passed away last year,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: which is super sad. But the only reason, the main
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: reason why is because every time I've read, because I
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: have so many, you know, I don't really buy comics
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: anybody's by graphic novels just anyways. Yeah, but every time
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: I read any Batman stuff in my head, I picture
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Kevin Conray's voice. So to me, Kevin Conroy is the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: best Batman. If you don't know his voice. He did
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: the voice for a lot of the animated movies, and
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: he was the voice of the Batman Animated series, So
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: he did the voice for a lot of the Batman
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: animated movies. Sorry, should have clarified. And then he did
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: the animated series two and and the video a lot
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: of the video games. So yeah, Kevin Conroy's.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: The animated series was so amazing.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: So groundbreaking, so good. We did an episode on the past.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Go check it out. It's really good.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: I really liked Adam West I.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Show I met Adam West. I had a comic con
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, it's really cool. As the very first
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: comic con I ever went to, and as me and
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: my dad and then we're like, I don't know, maybe
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: forty feet away from him, and uh, there's other like
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: nerds next to us, and we're all standing really far away.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: And then my dad looks to the guys and he goes,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: can can we go up and talk to him? And
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: the guys were like, I don't know. I was hoping
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you guys would know. And then we're like, should we
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: all just go up? So, because everybody at comic con,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: they all have social anxiety, so that's one of the
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: funny it's so packed, but when you walk, you just
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: hear sorry, I'm sorry, my bad, oh sorry, sqeeze, Oh
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: okay bad the whole time, right, But then all four
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: of them up and he was so sweet and nice, like.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've only been to one comic con and I
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: know what you mean. Like I felt not just nerds
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: at all, but I felt like I was like chanting
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Tatum or like.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Yes me too. They're like, oh man, I'm like yeah,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: So that's so interesting.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: So we created our lists separately. But it's interesting that
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: our lists are kind of similar.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Ish real people.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: But here's what so you did. Your second hero is
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Batman for so comic books, and then my second is
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: second hero is a tie also from comic books, Rogue
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and Storm.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: But I thought you.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Wanted to That's what I thought too.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: But there ain't no cure for who you are.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: They you must live forever in the prison of your
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: mutant power.
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: I am my powers and the good they can do
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: for my friends and for the whole world. I reckon,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: maybe I can live with that after all. Thanks anyway, Doc,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: I love like X Men was my jam growing up,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Like I loved the social commentary on like discrimination and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: phobias and that kind of thing. But I love that
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: not all of their superpowers were positive or beneficial, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: that like I think, none other than Rogue had the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: power to absorb people's energy, so it could kill someone
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: pretty much or yeah, ass asked. And then she could
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: also take their powers, but she couldn't touch anybody that
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: she loved. Yes, And so you get like, sorry, here
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: you go ahead.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: No, no, I was gonna say, and that's such a
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: great way because it can be very harmful but in
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: a beneficial way to help humanity. But it's also harmful
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to yourself, which is super heavy. Like that's a really
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: hard concept to think of when you're a kid. And
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: that's the great thing I like about comic books is
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: because yeah, you know, it is kind of outlandis you
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: have to just kind of let yourself believe in all
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that stuff. But a good comic book is one that
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: makes you think of all these different like scenarios like, yeah,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: she is helping people by sucking the life form or
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: whatever out of the bad guys, but now she'll never
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: really know the touch of like a lover which something. Yeah,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: and that's really harmful on herself.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: So no, that's yeah great, And then the storyline of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: how she got something because originally her power was just
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to absorb, but then she got the power of super
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: strength and flight from Captain Marvel. Oh yeah, she touched
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: her too long and she absorbed a lot of her
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: traits and like her powers permanently. So in the movies,
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: I think when they introduce the Marvel Cinemaic universe, when
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: they introduced the X Men into that, because they already
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: have Captain Marvel, that's how I think they're gonna have
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: Rogue be a villain because originally she is a villain
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: because she was raised by mystique. Oh I didn't, and
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: then her brother is Nightcrawler, at least in the comics.
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: So but I just love that kind of adversity that
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: she had. And then I think also with X Men,
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: especially like the animated series, the women are the strong ones, sure,
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: because then you have Storm and then you have Jubilee,
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: like on the cartoon side. And I think that And
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: I was kind of compartmentalizing this after our episode about Jawbreaker,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: and there was kind of that discussion about a man
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: writing a woman's story. But I feel like as a
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: gay man and the director and writer of Jawbreakers a
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: gay man, we in the nineties and eighties and seventies,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: you know, people we would gay people would identify maybe
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: more with the woman because we would they would see
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: a marginalized person who has like a strength, like a
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: badass woman, and identify more with her than like Cyclops.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: So I thought like when we would play X Men
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: as kids, I would play not that identify as a
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: woman's I don't, but it more is like a rogue
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: or Storm opposed to Cycleps or Wolverine because theres are
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: just like do she narcissistic masculine men, and then these
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: two are like badass with these awesome powers and even
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: storms like backstory about like the childhood trauma that she
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: had and like this queen like god power of controlling
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: the weather is amazing.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: No, that's that's a really good fig. That's crazy that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: you also chose comics, and I think she marries like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: later on in the comics Black Panther. Oh dope, have
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: you watched X Men ninety seven yet?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's fucking amazing.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Dude, did you watch the whole serious?
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, that episode Spoilerer. Yeah, don't okay, it's turn
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it off right now if you haven't finished the season yet.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: But when she goes, I can still feel him talking
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: about Gambit. Yeah. That fucking wrecked me all day.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be, oh my god, crazy when I'm so
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: butt hurt about that's going to be like another year
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: before we get an.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I haven't finished the entire series. Oh so I've only
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: went up to I think that was episode seven.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had to take a break after that, so
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I've only seen the episode. You have some so he
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: doesn't come. I don't want to spoil it for you.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: He's not going to come back back.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: That completely is a spoiler.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, but he doesn't because he doesn't come back.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: But in any comic book, nobody's ever dead forever. But
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: that she I forget the name. I follow her on Instagram,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: that voices Rogue and she's just like that voice and
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: like that because that role is like comic relief but
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: also super deep. And that Harry Gilpin do her voice
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: the original. Yeah, a lot of the same actors are
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: doing the roles. And then there's that badass scene in
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: that same episode when she's dancing with Magneto and it's
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: a Happy Nation from Asa Bays, which is like iconic nineties.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Group ninety seven, like it works out Pervieo, and.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: That song is about like kind of anti fascists, which
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: is a really interesting plot for a pop song of
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: the nineties.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: That's why I made that one. I was like, do
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: you think when Republicans watch like X Men or Harry Potter,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Star Wars or Star Trek or basically anything with the
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: good guys bad guys, Republicans are like, oh, I identify
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: with the bad people. And it was the Leonardo DiCaprio meda, yeah,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: oh that's me. I like the bad guys.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Rogan Storm or my my number two. So
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: what is your number one villain of all time?
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: So I'm keeping with the whole comic book thing. I
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: think this number one villain is my personal favorite, and
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why in a second. So this villain
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: first premiered in nineteen thirty nine in the same comic
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: book that Batman premiered in in nineteen thirty nine. It's
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: none other than the Joker.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Not another joke.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: But right now, I think we've had enough jo What
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: do you get when you cross the society? I'll tell
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: you what you call the police, get what you fucking deserve.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: So I read a book called Inside the Joker's Mine
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and Raveling Batman's Nemesis and it's implications for philosophical and
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: uh psychological issues. So I think it's very important because
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: so the reason I think the Joker is so important
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: is because it's a relatable villain. And I say that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: because so just look at his face, right, he paints
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: that face every day, which is a mask which I
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people every day when you
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: go to work. You're wearing a mask that maybe it's
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: not really you, but you have to do it for
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: this job. Right, So I feel like already we're all
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: wearing a mask in some way. And that's just one
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: reason it makes this more relatable. And there's another. He
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: gives a speech in the killing joke the joker does,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: and I'll play a little bit from it. Right here,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I'm demonstrated there's no difference between me and everyone else.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: All it takes is one bad day. That's how far
• 49:26
  Speaker 6: the world is from where I am. Just one bad day.
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: You had a bad day once, am I right?
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: I know, I am.
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: I can tell you had a bad day and everything changed.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Dressing up like a flying rat doesn't hide it. It
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: screams it. You had a bad day and it grove you.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: As crazy as everybody else told me.
• 49:47
  Speaker 6: You WoT a minute. You had to keep pretending that
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: that makes sense, that there's a point hole that's struggling.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: You make me want a cute.
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: I went crazy, and I'm smart enough to admit.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Why can't you cling to reality? You're denying the reality
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: of the situation.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: But essentially what he's saying is all it takes is
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: one horrible bad day for someone to have that like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: crazy switch flipped and the Joker basically says something like, well,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: you heard a little bit, so I'm gonna try to
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: paraphrase what it said, but it basically says like sanity
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: is the hard thing. It's really easy to become insane.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: All you have to do is open that door. So
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: if enough bad things happen to you, anybody can turn
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: into the Joker to where you're just fucking crazy, you know.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And I think the he plays on Batman can be
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: silly and humorous, which kind of works for the younger
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: people watching and kind of reading Batman, but some can
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: be very dark and loves Batman with two bad choices
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: that will end up changing people's lives forever. And I
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: think as an adult, you start having like, you know,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: let's say you're living paycheck to paycheck, right, you might
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: have this thing to where it's like, fuck, should I
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: pay the electric bill or should I buy food this week?
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: So there. I don't know really how to explain it,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: but I think it's a way to show people that
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: you can have two choices and they can both be
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: wrong or they can both be right, but sometimes you
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: just have to choose it, choose choose one of the choices,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: you know, And that's it's a really hard thing to
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: kind of come to terms with when you're a kid,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: and most people have the feeling of wanting to like rebel,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: and I think the Joker is a rebel not only
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: against like society and authority, but also he kind of
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: rebels against himself. He doesn't care about human life at
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: his like at all, and he doesn't care about his
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: own life, so he's kind of rebelling against himself too.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: But he he kind of knows like how like how
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: silly this whole world is. He's kind of like nihilistic,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you know, like Albert Camu, that philosophery he goes, should
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: I have a cup of coffee today? Or should I
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: kill myself? Because at the end it doesn't really matter,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing. And I kind of
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: feel like Joker has that nihilism but also kind of
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: like the funny clown thing to where he can kind
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of go from like little kid all the way to
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: adult and you can always find something to connect with
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: the Joker. So like, so I was reading that book,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: and I kind of so Fred nietzche themes chaos, anarchy,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and will to power. Nietzsche believed that the traditional norms
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of religion, reason, and morality, we're limiting our true potential
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: as humans. So the will to power will change the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: world based on your own actions, and this is the
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: ultimate goal for humanity. So really, the Joker is more
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: human than all of us because he kind of realizes
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: how silly the noise. So trying to follow like this
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: certain religion, morality, or just how society works is really
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: fucking silly because it doesn't really matter. So if you
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: change the world based on your views, that's the most
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: human thing you can do. So, when I was saying
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: earlier about how I think a good villain is one
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: that believes what they're doing is right, even though other
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: people might think it's wrong, the Joker is being the
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: most human human out there by being awful because humans
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: at their core, I guess following norms isn't really a
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: human trait. I don't know. That's the thing about Joker
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: is so fucking great, is there? It's so heavy. It's
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: so heavy if you really start thinking about everything the
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Joker's done. So I think the Joker is the best
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: villain of all time because you can relate. When you're
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: a kid might seem you can't relate, but when you're adult,
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I think a lot more relate with the Joker than
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: they do with Batman.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Damn. I feel like you could have like a whole
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: podcast like breaking down like the DC villains, oh for heroes.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's one reason I always like DC. Moore
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: is like, because yes, it is outlandish and crazy and everything,
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: but I always felt like the DC had the best villains,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: which ultimately create the best superheroes, but also felt like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: their villains are more relatable, Like I can relate in
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: a way to like the Joker going crazy because like
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: in the Killing Joke, they give Joker a backstory for
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: this story. He is a stand up comedian, not funny.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: His wife's pregnant, he can't afford the baby and everything,
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: so then he starts working with the Mob. Well, his
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: wife and baby die unfortunately, and then he's still stuck
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: to work with the Mob. He gets hurt, and that's
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: what makes him crazy. That's that little swish that fucking
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: turned over to make him crazy was him and him,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: his wife, his wife and his baby dying. That's the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: little push, that's the insanity push, right, and then he goes,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: you know, bash it crazy after that. But you can relate.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Think about the people you love more than anything. Now,
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: let's say somebody took them from you. You're gonna have
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: those feelings of like revenge and anger, and you can
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: see it's more relatable than like, you know, let's say
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Marvel Galactus right where he eats universes like or Galax.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know, not a big Marvel fan, but you see,
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: I just think that type of ship's way more relatable
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: than Marvel villains.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get what. I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I haven't explored like the Marvelle universe very
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: much except for X Men. I never really got into
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: like Spider Man or Avengers or anything like I don't
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: mind Avengers with thor because what's up?
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: N Yeah.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: Anyways, so my that's a fabulous pick. Like, I don't
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: think there's much more iconic villain.
• 55:55
  Speaker 6: Kind of.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: My throat's a little horse.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: So my mine is more sinister and something that we
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: really need to as a society focus on, and that's Aliens.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: I'm one of those who's a little worried when we
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: give our return address broadcast out into space, because you
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: don't give your email to strangers in the street. Yet
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: we're giving the coordinates of Earth broadcast out to the
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: gaps of interstellar space. So I'm a little worried about that.
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: But then I think about it and I say, nearly
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: every portrayal of an alien in Hollywood is evil, going
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: right on back to War of the World with HG. Wells,
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: and I'm thinking, why do we have any insights that
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: aliens would be evil? Or is it really a mirror
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: to ourselves? It's not imagined knowledge of how aliens would behave,
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: it's actual knowledge of how we have behaved. Because an
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: alien coming to Earth has a greater technology than we do,
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: So how has it gone on Earth? Anytime one civilization
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: with higher technology encounters one with lesser technology, it has
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: never voted well for the society with lesser technology. They've
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: been enslaved, killed. So I think we fear aliens because
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: in fact, we fear ourselves.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: I cannot I am terrified of aliens and listener like
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: that's been listening for a little bit, Like I talk
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: about this in previous episodes, like being traumatized by watching
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: fire in the sky as a kid. My relationship with
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Et has not been successful. I just think it's terrifying.
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: And the idea that anyone's like ET was good. I
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: get that. But if he came into your room in
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: the middle of the night, I was like, Eh, you
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: would be terrified.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I would hit him in the head with a hammer.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: And then when like the you know, racist, I just
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: fucking kill him. When they're like the racist Republican people
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: are like, oh, like aliens are coming in, I'm like
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: that fucks with people like me that have this really
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: unhealthy phobia of extraterrestrials because they're talking about undocumented migrants,
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: but they cannot say they should not say aliens. It's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: like if I called an undocumented migrant a et an
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: et or like a uh, like a caterpillar that eats
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: people like, I don't know what that means.
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I don't.
• 58:00
  Speaker 2: You don't say that, You don't you don't call someone
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: a dragon.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just say undocumented immigrants. So don't say aliens because
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: we all think of fucking aliens.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: And then all of these drones that are happening on
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: the East Coast that like nobody's talking about. And then Jeremy,
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: my spouse, was like, oh, like aliens live in the ocean,
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: another reason that you probably don't want the ocean. Like
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the ocean, it's it's fucking crazy. And I I understand
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: that there's going to be life forms outside of Earth,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: like I'm not, you know, I know, I am shout
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: out to Neil de Gras, Neil Degrass, Tysian Tyson.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: There we are, who probably has a big sweaty hog,
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: so sweaty.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I love him. So I get that there's aliens that exist.
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: I just don't want to deal with it. And if
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I do have to deal with it, then I'm going
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: to be like the Sigourney Weaver of the situation, and
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to lead the resistance and I'm going to
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: fight them like I will not. If there's a flying
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: saucer over my home, I'm fucking shooting that. But when
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: arrowing that ship, paper planing it whatever it needs to
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: do and then quickly. So my grandparents are pretty like.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Take your time, Oh, I feel like we're hurt.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: They're like my grandparents are very like skeptical and stuff
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: like that, and they live outside in like Mcminnfield, which
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: is like a hotbed area for like, uh yeah, and
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: they even said that they saw something before. I think
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: that I saw something one time when I was driving
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: on the I five on the Interstate, and I called
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: my sister right away. I was like, oh my god,
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: this just happened because it was like a light was
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: really low and it flew really quickly parallel with the
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: way the road was going. And I was like, what
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: just flew over? Yeah, But then my realistic side was like,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: you know, oh that was probably nothing, blah blah blah.
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: But I was like, that felt like something that happened.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but who knows.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is honest. When I was in the seventh grade,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: I left for school like an hour earlier than I
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: was supposed to by accident. So I came to the
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: day or the actual time. But let's say I left
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: school seventh thirty. I left six thirty by accident. I
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: got the time off. So I was walking to school
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: and I realized, like, oh shit, I'm an hour early.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back home because I was only like
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: a half a block away. But when I turn around,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I see this light in the sky.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: It's at a point just chilling, and then it goes one,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: two three, gone, and I but I was like, you know,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: it's really early. You know, I just kind of woke
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: up like a half hour ago. Maybe I wasn't seeing
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: it right, but to this day I remember exactly seeing
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: and it was far away. But I was like, I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: wonder what that was like, Did I actually see that?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: But it was one, two, three, bam, and it was
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: fucking gone, like but it went so fast it was crazy.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: So you know, the only thing is if aliens do
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: come down, if you look at just like humanity, anytime
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: a more advanced civilization meets a less advanced civilization, it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't turn out too good for the less one. So
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: if alien race does come down, and you know they
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: have like intergalaca travel, probably not gonna work out too
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: good for it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: But if you compared two different types of people or whatever, Okay,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: so if you compared back in the day when they
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: would duel with swords, yeah, or guns or whatever versus
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: cave men, the cave men would win. They would your
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: head into your throat.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: So between a caveman and a curson with a gun.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: But the gun is like one bullet and then they
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: have to like reload and everything with the gunpowder and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: the little stick pin or something.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just like I fall.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: It's not listener, it's It's not my fault though, that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: I have this phobia because I fall down rabbit holes
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: on like TikTok and like internet. That gets me worked
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: up and then I go to sleep.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: But I think you can. I think you can blame
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: it's on your grandma. Yeah, I love that so much
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: that she thought it was a religious movie, but she
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: just stuck to her.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: She talked to it. And I even talked to my
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: shrink about this last week or two weeks ago about
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: my phobia with aliens, and we were kind of discussing
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: like how it's probably connected to like childhood trauma. And
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: I saw that movie when I was young and associated
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: trauma with that movie. And I was like, oh, yeah,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: like you you're good. And then I started talking to her.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, it's not appropriate, but I was like, so,
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: I was like your relationships with people and like your
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: spouse and your child. Being a shrink, like how they
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: are always like analyzing people, and she was like, oh,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: like children of the psychiatrists are usually the most messed up.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: And I was like, good to know, and then I
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: and then she must have like overheard me or something
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: like on my phone or whatever, because she looks at
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: Hammer Dog Shit about a month or two ago and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: a zoom appointment. But she was like put together.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Does she know the podcast?
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh shit, No, she's fine, she doesn't. She probably
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: doesn't listen. So she does, It's fine, like insurance. No,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: she's amazing. She is amazing. So and she was giving
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: me like her resume the other day because I was
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: asking her all these like personal questions about her like education,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm gonna brag about this, like
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: you're like really like educated and like have all these
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: degrees and shit and like your service.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: So anyways, so shout out to my shrink like I'm
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: keeping them in business. But I did such a bad job,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: like I showed up because I had to go once
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: a year or two like an in person appointment, and
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I was too like joke, joke, joke, jo joke with her,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and I think she office, uh, yeah, it's very modern,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: very modern. So but again the magazine selection. The waiting
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: room was like subar like they had like really sad
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: you know, articles, but like where's people or where's like
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: in touch or whatever.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: But anyhow, my therapist has hand tattoos, which makes me
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: really want because I've always been too scared to get
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: hand tattoos. I'm like, if he's a therapist and.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: He has han tatoos, should Ariana Grande has hand tattoos?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: I fucking love? Yeah? Okay, Andy, So who is your
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: number one hero?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: So for me, I don't know if you knew this.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I am not a big fan of most eighties music.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Most I do like some eighties music. But the thing
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: I hate more than fucking anything else is that eight
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: hair metal, glam bullshit. I hate Poison, fucking hate Molly Crue,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: White Snake, I hate all that shit. I think it's
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: just fucking dogshit garbage music. It's so like predictable. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: just I hate. I think it sounds like shit. I
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: don't like their vocals. I hate guns of roses, I
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: hate I hate all that shit. Right, so one of
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: my own personal heroes, not only just because thanks to
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: him we got out of that all that shitty fucking music,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: that corporate bullshit music, but it also taught me how
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: to play guitar.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: It's none other than Kurk Cobane.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: Because I couldn't find any friends male friends that I
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: felt amatible with, I ended up hanging out with girls
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: a lot, and I just always felt that they weren't
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 3: with respect, especially because of women are totally oppressed, I
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 3: mean the word bitch and or totally common. Although I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 3: listened to Aerosmith and led Zeppelin and I really did
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: enjoy some of the melodies that they've written, and took
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: me so many years to realize that it was just
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of it how to do with
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: sexism and the way that they just wrote about their
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: and having.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: Sex bo yes, oh oh nice boom. Yeah that's one.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: Uh So with Kirk Obain, I think other than just
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: the music stuff, right, I think he changed a lot
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: of people's way of thinking of what being masculine was
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: because if you read his diaries, if you listen to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: the lyrics of his songs, if you watch his interviews
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and everything, he was very like pro feminism, he was
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: pro gay, pro all that stuff, and he hated people
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that that that were like the redneck assholes.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was really good looking. He was like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: a sex symbol, you know, because he was fucking gorgeous.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: So in the early nineties, I think a lot of
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: people were able to see, like, oh, you can be
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: like a manly man without doing all that fucking you
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, But you can just be a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: manly man that women want while just being yourself and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: also supporting people, you know, like women and stuff like that,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: which I think is very important. He was very intellectual
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: and just like the whole villain thing talking about how
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: he's relatable, I think he is such a relatable artist
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: because like he always showed the best and the worst
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: side of humanity. And uh so, like one thing is
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: he was kind of a slob based on all the
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: interviews and the books I've read about him, but he
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: had great work, work ethic. He would do Heroin, but
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: he would drive a Volvo since it.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: Was the safest car to drive, right.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: He was very silly and goofy, but also super depressed
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: and filled with the anks. He wrote. He wrote like
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: punk kind of metal music, but with catchy pop riffs.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: He would often which is really cool. Actually, he would
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: often credit the catchy stuff to cheap trick. He said.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: He wanted to do a band like Cheap Trick with
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: more distortion was one of his favorite bands, which is
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: really cool. He came off as someone who didn't care
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: about his music, but he wrote the lyrics and the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: music for the band. He was the lead singer and
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: the lead guitarist. He designed the album covers and everything.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: But he came off like, oh, it doesn't really matter.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: So basically, what I'm saying is a lot of people
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: feel like they are constantly battling between themselves. Like, you know,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: I go to work every day, but I'm fucking tired
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: when I get home. You know, I try to eat healthy,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: but I'm over what. You know, You're always battling two
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: sides of yourself, which I think is for a villain
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: and a hero. But with him, I think he did
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of the same stuff that probably David Bowie did,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: I mean in a different aspect. But like in the seventies,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of people felt they could open up about
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: who they are because of David Bowie doing the whole
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: thing between like kind of being more feminine but also
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: being like manly, and so I think people that like,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gay, so I can't really say this,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't live in the seventies, but when David
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: Bowie died, there were so many people I had no
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: idea that David Bowie touched them in a way when
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: it comes to like their sexuality and being, you know,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: And I was like, oh shit, And so I think,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't listening Vada in the early nineties.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: I was a baby, you know. But I feel like
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: a lot of the people I know that were, you know,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: ten fifteen years old than me, they would talk about
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: how listening to Kurt made them kind of open up
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and say it's okay to kind of be yourself in
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: a way to where it's like it's okay to be angry.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really know how to explain it,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: but I think he helped a lot of people and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: great music, fucking just wonderful music. And it's just so
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: sad that he had so many mental issues to where,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: you know, he killed himself at twenty seven, because who
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: would have known what other great things he would have done.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: But Chris, I know, right, yeah, it's insane. And he
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: was and they got famous, and you know, another like
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: the thing between both sides, like when Nevermind came number one,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: he was homeless fucking crazy, right, So it's just like
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: that whole thing about like both sides of everything good bad,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: and I think he was everything, and you know, it's
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: just it kind of sucks, you know, his upbringing and everything,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: how tough it was, and his mental issues that ever
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: got really resolved. But I think, you know, arguably, you
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: can say he so one of the most influential musicians
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: of all time. We can all say one of the
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: most I mean, I don't know who would disagree with that.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Whether you like Nirvana or not, you can definitely tell
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: it changed the whole music industry, changed everything, well, I guess.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Rock and roll.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: I don't know about like pop stuff, but kind of
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: pop stuff too, Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: But.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: Change music industry. But another great thing is I think
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: music is one of the most important things in anybody's life.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: I think, other than movies. I think music is something
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: that will I mean, look, we're listening like Beethoven and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Mozart and you know, just for hundreds and hundred of years.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: I think good music will do that for hundreds and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: hundreds of years. So, like I got really in Nirvana
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: when I first started playing music, because he plays left handed.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: So I learned how to play guitar just by watching
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: and mirroring how to play those songs. That's awesome, right
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: and then, and it's all pretty simple. So I think,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: you know, twenty years from now, there's gonna be some
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: kid picking up a guitar for the first time playing uh,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: you know, come as you are. Fifty years from now,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing. So I think he's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be a hero for a lot of people for
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: years to come.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: So I just hope we like not general Yeah, I'm
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: such an appreciator of music, but I don't understand like
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: the science or like the fine tooth details about it.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: But I just hope that we don't lose that organic
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: music making because most of the music I listened to
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: is like seventies and eighties rock, like you know, Queen Boston,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: Chicago Eagles, like that's like my jam and pleading my
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: house up and shut shut up. I just hope we
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: don't lose that to like all of the a and
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: everything that.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think it will because I you know, I
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: like to play a lot of music, and I play
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of music and a couple of days ago,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: I just wrote a little folky tune on guitar, and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: that feeling I got when I was like, oh shit,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: I think people are gonna play music for themselves forever,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: regardless of what's gonna make it famous. But I think
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: as long as people keep playing music for themselves, some
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: of that stuff's gonna be famous, you know. So I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: think I don't think we'll ever lose that.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: I was chatting with someone yesterday who does crab, who
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: does acoustic guitar, and he was playing some of his
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 2: recordings and it was so amazing and I couldn't describe
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: it anyway because I don't shit the terminology, but almost
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: ended like kind of like Carlos Santana vibe, and I
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: was like, just the the it was high skill. And
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: then he was like, oh, like check out this open mic,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: like I'm gonna go, I'm gonna perform there or whatever,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: and I was like this is so awesome, Like I
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 2: love that organicness. But we both kind of had the
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: realization that like we don't talk like people don't talk
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 2: like the city anymore. I actually have conversations off to
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: social media. I love that. I think Nirvana's great. I
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: love how poetic you were with your choices with the dementia,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: like I wouldn't necessarily, I would not have guessed that
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be Kurt Cobain, and he is somebody
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: who is it flew under my radar on my adult
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: men who have blonde hair crusade. I don't want to.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: I'll give him a past.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you man, there's a I'll show you when
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: you're done. But there's a video where it's just him
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: and then Dave Girl and Chris Novaselak are behind him
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: blurred but he's just singing to the camera and you're like,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that's one of the hottest motherfucker. Like it's crazy. And
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: I think his voice is way underrated because he has
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: a raspiness. But he's a great singer too, which is
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: also crazy. But yeah, I love Nirvana so much. Yeah,
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: they're my top three favorite bands. Cheap Tricks my number
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: one all the time, Social Distortion, and Nirvana. Depending on
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: what I'm really listening to for the most switched between
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: two and three, so Cheap Tricks, Social d and Nirvana,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: or my top three Social Da Nirvana switch between two
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: and three all the time.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Mine is we're definitely different tastes, but my is Fleetwood,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: Mac Queen and Pink Floyd.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I love Queen. I just started appreciating Pink Floyd. Yeah,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: like a year or two ago.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: And I've done like the laser light shows at AMS,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: which I want to I had to close my eyes
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: at one point like this is so much. I was
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: also like on acid.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: So then and I were going to go to one
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: of those when we first started hanging out, and it
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: was Nirvana one. But then I was like, it starts
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: at seven. She goes, I think it's sex at six,
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: but we started drinking at like three, so then we
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: get an argument, right, and they were like okay, She's
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: like fine, we'll leave at six like you said. So
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: we travel all the way up there, get there about
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: six fifty and they go it started at six, And
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I was like, Kathy, I'm.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: So sorry, yeah, Pink Floyd, Oh and then also sorry las.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Anma of Pink Floyd is that you have to be
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: a top tier band when there's like that whole play
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: Dog Side the Moon with Yeah, with Wizard of Oz,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: like you have to be a top tier band like
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Ashley Simpson doesn't have that with her albums. Okay, so
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: my number one. I'm gonna do it in two ways.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: So I have a number one, but I was also
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: like fucked up when I wrote my list, and then
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: I have like the real number one that we can
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: all listener, everybody in the whole world in universe can
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: agree on, is the hero of our generation. So my
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 2: number one is Alec Baldwin.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: You got leads.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: Mitch and Murray paid good money get their names to
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: sell them. You can't close the leads you're given. You
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: can't close shit.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: You are shit.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Hit the bricks, pal and beat it because you are
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: going out.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: The leads are week. The leads a week, fucking leads
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: a week. You a week. I've been in this business
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: fifteen years. What's your name? Fuck you? That's my name.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: You know why, mister, because you drove a hun day
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: to get here tonight, I drove an eighty thousand dollars BMW,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: that's my name.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: This is so out of the field. I was not
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: expecting this in any way. Wow.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I love Alec Baldwin. I have a very unhealthy relationship.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: With If you would have said Hitler less surprise.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: Exterminator to Rogan Storm, Wow, he's amazing.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: But we did the same thing. Real people.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, real people, Wow, real people. So he was in
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: roles and like you know, Beatle Juice, hunt for at October,
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: Nodding Hill, Pearl Harbor, working Girl. He had his number
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: one role that I love of all times. We'll play
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: some of it right here is when he left a
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: voice message for his daughter he called her a little
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: pig or something like that.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 7: I don't damn.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: The least time.
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: Feel like you want to feel are?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: So I love that because it's just proof that kids
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: are not always right, and I think that's what we
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: we always especially this generation now of like millennial parents
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: with their kids, their kids are always right. No, the
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: kids are wrong and the kids are selfish little pigs anyways,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: So that's kind of my.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: Selfish little kids. Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: So I just love him and I love I love
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: his vibe. He was iconic of the nineties power couple,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: like he was Benefit before Benefit with Kim bay Singer
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: who sidebar My mom My step Mom's the planet We're
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: What's a movie called where Kim Basinger plays she gets
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: get married to dan Aykroyd and then she's an alien.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: That's an alien I can get on board with. Is
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: Kim Base singer. Okay, so that is my number one
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: is Alex Baldwin. I love him. He's he's giving zaddy vibes.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: And right now everything is like Wizard of Ozzie because
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: of like Wicked coming out and like I'm gonna teach
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: you and you don't know this because you're not on
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: gay Twitter. But so Jonathan Bailey, he's all Wicked, right. Yeah,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: So Jonathan Bailey plays Ferrero in Wicked. Yeah, gay, super gay.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: So he is what we would call daddy. So the boyfriend, Yeah,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: the boyfriend, So he's a daddy.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: He looks really young.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: He's young, but he's probably like thirties forties, you know,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: So he's a daddy in our world.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: I just assumed that like bears would be daddy's.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: You would think that, so that we have a new
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: would we have a new term for that? So the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: Jeff Goldbloom who plays the Wizard is a zaddy zaddy
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: like at a Z in front of daddy. What's daddy
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: like almost like a like a more mature daddy is
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: Z because it's later in the alphabet probably, But yeah,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: so daddy and zaddy. So if you that's that's you're
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: not on gay twitters.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: You don't know, but okay, and then Baddi a hot
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: female Zaddy Daddy, Babby or Babbie nice. Yeah, So I
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: think I can do hold on. I think I feel
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: like I could do. Jeff Goldbloom, let me try to
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: think of something says, oh yeah, oh that's that's beautiful.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: There.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Oh what is this, Stanley?
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: That was a very good that's pretty good. Okay, I
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: like that for listener. You didn't see this, but Andy
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: even gotten so much into character he took off his glasses,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: so that commitment.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: So okay.
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: So that's my Number one is Alec Baldwin. So I'm
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: gonna say we can all agree that the hero of
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: the nineties millennial youth is none other than what Robin
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: Williams because you.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: Only give him a little spark of madness.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: If you lose that.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: Value I have in this universe, but I do know
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: that I made a few people happier than they would
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: have been without me.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: As long as I know that, and the switches ever
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: need to be, I think like that was gonna be
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: with my number one, because Jeanie, we had missus dow
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: Fire even though he's kind of problematic in that we
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: had Wake Up, Good Morning Vietnam, we had Goodwill Hunting,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: we had one of their movies, was he in Flubber?
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: He was in Patch Adams like he is he I am?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: So that was one of like the celebrity deaths that
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: really like.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Me to hit Alright, I was like, fuck, so, I
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: think I told you this, but a couple of weeks
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: ago is uh, this is coming out after Christmas. But
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: about a week or two ago, I was gonna decorate
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: or I was gonna have wrap presence, right, and I'm
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: like why, It's something in the background while I wrap presence.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: So then you know, I was like, well, I'm good
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: a little high. So I took a bomb roop. I
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, you know what, I'm just gonna watch
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 1: Aladdin really quick.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: So I took all the wrapping stuff out, I put
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: on Aladdin, took a bomb rip and then I watched
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: Aladdin full all the way through, and I didn't wrap
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: one gift I did. I didn't check my phone. I
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: was just so enthralled in the movie. And then I
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: was like god, damn it sided to wrap again the
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: next night. But he is so good in that. I
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: mean you can feel the emotion.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just yeah.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Robert Williams is so part of that.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: Uh me and Keileen my best friend, like we always
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: talk about with that movie is a whole New world.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: Such a beautiful song thing when an oscar for that song.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: So they're singing and then all that they're flying up
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 2: in the air and there's those birds that are some
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: majestic but one.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: Of them is like.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: That bird ruin the whole scene. I love it so much.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: But okay, so really quick top top Villains? Who were
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: they number three?
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Since you had kind of a little honorable mention, Okay,
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: I almost chowse this is my number one here, Okay,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen this video, so I'm
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: gonna play.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 7: It for you.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: My name is Andre Dings and I got sell patch
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: on them shallow patch scrawberries.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: His name is Ander Dingus. He's almost my hero. I
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: want my name to be and dingis lipsy so bad
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: that we can do.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: In the future because I know we're gonna have our
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: cult special Anger Dingus Colt god and is my g
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: I love that. So it's okay, I'm gonna read caps
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 2: if we're capable of it. So what is your What
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: was your villains?
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: It was Hitler, the bad guy from Terry Silver, the
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: bad guy from Karate Kid three, and then the Joker.
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, my villains were Ursula, uh no, Michelle Schrockenberg, Ursula
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: and Aliens. And then heroes.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Tommy Pickles, Batman, Bruce Wayne, Yeah, and Kurt Kobaine.
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  Speaker 2: And mine were heroes were Terminator to Judgment Day, Sarah Connor, Rogan,
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  Speaker 2: Storm number two and then number one Alec Baldwin.
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  Speaker 1: And then honorable mentions.
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  Speaker 2: Were Robin Williams. Is kind of like the you know,
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  Speaker 2: honorary doctorate and.
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  Speaker 1: I gave my honorary doctorate to and ingis boom.
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  Speaker 2: There five star, five star, A plus. I think we
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  Speaker 2: killed it with this episode. It like an award ceremony.
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  Speaker 2: So I just want to say, future draft, if you
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  Speaker 2: were listening, drinking more water today because you're probably a
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  Speaker 2: little bit dehydrated and water is super important. You know
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  Speaker 1: For some reason, I just want to say, check out
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'd really like to do is I'd
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  Speaker 1: like to see them talk. Oh, and guess what. We're
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  Speaker 1: we'll let you know. But for our notable nuggets, our
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  Speaker 1: nosulgit nuggets, you know, I think I switch it.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good.
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  Speaker 1: Is it? Notable nuggets and missult nuggets.
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  Speaker 2: I can't remember dalgia nuggets, but they're notable.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna start putting our insultent nuggets on YouTube
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  Speaker 1: We'll definitely let you know exactly when that happens. It's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fun. And then just yeah, let us know
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  Speaker 1: what some of your favorite villains are, some of our heroes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, if it's your mom let us know, let
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  Speaker 1: us know why. Your mom or your dad or whoever
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  Speaker 1: you know. If you want to be lame like that,
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  Speaker 1: that's totally cool, let us know why. But uh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if you have someone else, like maybe you know Wesley
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  Speaker 1: Crusher from Starry Trek Next Generation. I always put the
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  Speaker 1: card on there, but I thought that'd be.
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  Speaker 2: A little Tobey maguire.
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  Speaker 1: Until next time.
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  Speaker 2: Until the next time, I'm Jeff I'll go.
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  Speaker 1: Andy Cobain, I dig that, I dig that, And we
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