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NFL Week 16 Main Slate | December 22, 2024 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 2: Got my guy hoops to here with me, title with
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  Speaker 2: me like always, we're back for the main slate, Hoopster,
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  Speaker 2: I'll bring you in. What's going on, man?
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  Speaker 3: How you doing? Yeah? Not much. Got a full loving
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  Speaker 3: game slate. We got obviously Christmas Day games coming up.
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  Speaker 3: It's a fun time for NFL. Talked about a little
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  Speaker 3: bit on the show yesterday. I mean, it just seems
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  Speaker 3: like it's NFL slate one right after another. We've got
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  Speaker 3: two gamers, we've got three gamers, we got showdown, we
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  Speaker 3: got full slates. NFL has kind of showing its dominance
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  Speaker 3: and saying, hey, we'll go as many days as possible
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  Speaker 3: crush all these other sports. It was fun two games
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  Speaker 3: slate tomorrow and then like you said, we've got Christmas Day,
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  Speaker 3: we got a three gamer on Saturday. I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: just never ends here, rolling right into the playoffs. PGA's
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  Speaker 3: right around the corner. If you're PGA. We have a
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  Speaker 3: little promo that we're going to release and talk about
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  Speaker 3: here at some point as well. It's fun times in
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  Speaker 3: the fantasy sport industry. But yeah, big, big slate today,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of ways to go. Excited to break it
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  Speaker 3: down with you guys.
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  Speaker 2: Here title I'll bring you in. Man, it's another we'll
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  Speaker 2: getting to the end of them. But the free money
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  Speaker 2: Sundays they still exist. And this looks like a good one.
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  Speaker 2: I actually really like this slate and we get to
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  Speaker 2: break in it all down. A lot of good games
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  Speaker 2: to talk about, and people are sort of stuck on
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  Speaker 2: certain things, so hopefully we can help them through it all.
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  Speaker 2: What's going on, man, how you doing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, i'd agree I'm doing well. I think it is
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  Speaker 4: a I mean, every Sunday is a good slate, but
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  Speaker 4: I think there's plenty of options. You know, people are
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  Speaker 4: really spending down at quarterbacks, spending down at tight end,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of concentrated stuff at running back, couple at
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  Speaker 4: receiver as well, So I think plenty of pivots. No
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  Speaker 4: total about forty seven and a half. I believe only
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  Speaker 4: two dome games, maybe three. I know FanDuel they do
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  Speaker 4: include the Sunday night game that is in a dome.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, not too many big totals. Of course, weather
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  Speaker 4: starts getting a factor this time of year, but I'm
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  Speaker 4: not seeing too much right now, so I'm excited to
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  Speaker 4: dive in and talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna lean on you for the weather. I
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  Speaker 2: know you Hu's got it up and ready to go
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  Speaker 2: over there, so I You've got that tab remind us
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  Speaker 2: as we go throughout. But I think, like you said,
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  Speaker 2: that's sort of the good part. Every slate is certainly
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  Speaker 2: a good one. This one is nice, I feel because
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  Speaker 2: we know what people are comfortable doing, we sort of
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  Speaker 2: know where they're landing. Because of that, and the more
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  Speaker 2: we know going in, hopefully the more it can help
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  Speaker 2: us move our way up those leaderboards. So hoop, I'll
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  Speaker 2: kick it to you before we get into any of
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  Speaker 2: the promos that sort of thing. Just a grand scheme
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  Speaker 2: overview for this slate. What are you thinking about it?
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  Speaker 2: How's it shaping up on your side?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it seems like we've had this slate
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  Speaker 3: like a lot of times in a row here, Like
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  Speaker 3: there's been a lot of main slates that are pretty similar.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of really good running back plays that
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  Speaker 3: we'll get to. At quarterback, people are looking to kind
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  Speaker 3: of hit that mid tier range a little bit, and
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  Speaker 3: you know that allows you to obviously spend up at
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  Speaker 3: other spots. So I think a lot of these mid
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  Speaker 3: tier quarterbacks are going to get some ownership and potentially
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  Speaker 3: more than we're projecting. You know, wide receivers, we have
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  Speaker 3: a couple of studs, we have some injuries, we have
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  Speaker 3: some underpriced guys. It just seems like a similar that
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  Speaker 3: that we've played many times. And yeah, I think there's
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  Speaker 3: definitely some some situations to take advantage of, some injury
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  Speaker 3: situations take advantage of. So that's kind of my main takeaway,
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  Speaker 3: you know, another slate, I think, especially on DK, where
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  Speaker 3: the expensive quarterbacks are definitely going to go overlook for
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  Speaker 3: the most part, on FanDuel be a little bit different.
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  Speaker 3: It's easier. It's always easier to talking about on the
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  Speaker 3: Cash Show. It's always easier to get the expensive quarterbacks
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  Speaker 3: on FanDuel a post to DraftKings, which is kind of
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  Speaker 3: a little bit ironic, just because they've done a much
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  Speaker 3: better job pricing the skill position players like the running
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  Speaker 3: backs and the wide receivers. They've done a much better
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  Speaker 3: job all season. But just the way it shakes out,
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  Speaker 3: it's always easier to get the expensive quarterbacks on Deal
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  Speaker 3: Fan Duel post to DK, but on DK they're going
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  Speaker 3: to come in oh. And I think that's definitely a
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  Speaker 3: talking point, and I continue to go overweight. It worked out,
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  Speaker 3: you know, last week Josh Allen, the week before it
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  Speaker 3: worked out with Josh Allen, and ownership on Josh Allen
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  Speaker 3: on DK is coming in low again. I think the
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  Speaker 3: main reason we see that is because we talk about
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  Speaker 3: all the time the pairing is awkward. People want to
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  Speaker 3: stack their quarterback with the pass catcher and it's awkward,
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  Speaker 3: and now he has another you know Kean cole Coleman's
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  Speaker 3: in the mix. Last week, it was Ty Johnson that
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  Speaker 3: got it done, So you know stacking. Anytime a stack
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  Speaker 3: is kind of awkward, people just stay away from it.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that's definitely a talking point on the slate,
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  Speaker 3: the Jalen Hurts you know situation, he's going to be
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  Speaker 3: low and people probably avoid Jaden Daniels as well because
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  Speaker 3: the Eagles defense has been very solid all season long.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know, Like my my main overview is,
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  Speaker 3: I think that's a very similar slate that we've played,
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  Speaker 3: Like it seems like the last five main slates, and
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  Speaker 3: you guys can kind of add on to that, give
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  Speaker 3: me your take, but it just seems very similar. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's eight to ten running backs that everyone wants to
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  Speaker 3: play a bunch of cheap, mid tier ish wide receivers,
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  Speaker 3: and then everyone's going to want to go mid tier
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  Speaker 3: at the quarterback position. So that's that's my thoughts before Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna at the title on those thoughts. I think
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  Speaker 2: the running back is the big conversation. We kind of
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  Speaker 2: know where everyone's going everywhere on this late It feels like,
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  Speaker 2: especially even when you get to tight end. We know
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  Speaker 2: everything we know, but one thing I want to kick
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  Speaker 2: to you, titles is said, definitely feels like people are
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  Speaker 2: not comfortable with some of those fragile running back spots
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  Speaker 2: where it still could be a really good spot, like
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  Speaker 2: Grindo is out. A running back cannot stay healthy in
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  Speaker 2: San Francisco. Yet it doesn't seem like it will even
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  Speaker 2: cross ten percent for a guy like Patrick Taylor. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: on FanDuel where he's forty eight hundred and people see
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  Speaker 2: it that way, but on DraftKings, it certainly doesn't seem
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  Speaker 2: like it. In the land of Las Vegas where you've
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  Speaker 2: got a pretty good team total for the Raiders for once,
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  Speaker 2: and it's like Madison or Abdullah, people don't want to
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  Speaker 2: make that decision. So what it does is it leaves
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  Speaker 2: a quarterbacks, Groop said, out of commission pretty much as
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  Speaker 2: far as ownership goes, like nobody can get to them.
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  Speaker 2: The aj Browns of the world aren't getting ownership. The
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  Speaker 2: Saquon bark Lee's the even a guy like Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 2: being kept in check for the most part versus what
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  Speaker 2: we've seen. So it's like everybody's going to that mid
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  Speaker 2: range build and even somebody said, Josh Allen, I just
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  Speaker 2: did this with Mayo on Friday. The thing about that
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  Speaker 2: is you still, even when you start filling in the
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote comfortable plays, you run out of options, and
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  Speaker 2: then it's what Oop said, You end up having to
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  Speaker 2: pick your poison of KEIHANKLM and kinkaid something, and then
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  Speaker 2: when that doesn't feel comfortable, people just bail on the lineup.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a really interesting slave. But what's your thoughts
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  Speaker 2: at running back specifically, and then anything else you see
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  Speaker 2: with the overview?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the overview or I'll start quick with like the
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  Speaker 4: wider there's no really wide receiver value, like I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we've really had it since Booty and Booty wasn't
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  Speaker 4: even good wide receiver value. Yeah, people figure it out
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  Speaker 4: real quick, Like why even mess with that? So it
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  Speaker 4: does feel like Coop likes Oop saying, spend the same
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  Speaker 4: type of build, save that tight end unless you're playing McBride,
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  Speaker 4: saving your mid tier quarterbacks jam in And like the
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  Speaker 4: running back position, it is Chase Brown and Gibbs. But
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  Speaker 4: there's still, like you said, a lot of other starting
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  Speaker 4: running backs on the slate. I always love Bijon James
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  Speaker 4: Connor is a workhorse. If you do want to go cheaper,
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  Speaker 4: you have starting running back like Madison Patrick Taylor. Now
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  Speaker 4: their roles aren't as sick here, but yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 4: we're playing eleven game mainslat at the end of the
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  Speaker 4: day or is it twelve eleven eleven DK? Yeah, so
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  Speaker 4: I mean there's clearly clearly a lot of ways to go.
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  Speaker 4: Chase Brown, how do you leverage that? The Jamar Chases
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  Speaker 4: of the World. Gibbs, how do you leverage that? You
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  Speaker 4: can obviously play the amen Ras of the world. Obviously
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  Speaker 4: you can't eat chalk as well, you can overstack stuff.
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  Speaker 4: I do obviously think Chase Brown and Gibbs are very
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  Speaker 4: strong plays, but by no means my locking them. I
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  Speaker 4: think there's plenty of other running backs. Your lineup should
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  Speaker 4: tell a story like if you already got a low
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  Speaker 4: owned stack, et cetera, can eat more chalk, et cetera.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, the running back Room, though Chase Brown Gibbs
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  Speaker 4: obviously very strong plays project very well. How many times
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  Speaker 4: do we see stuff like that bus? It feels like
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  Speaker 4: Kamara every single week he's chalk you does eat bus?
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, running back Room definitely strong but I think
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  Speaker 4: I'll definitely be playing some teams that are fading one
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  Speaker 4: of them and making low own pivots.
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  Speaker 2: The chat is killed me, nothing like some strange booty.
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  Speaker 2: They said that you get those two together, there's your
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  Speaker 2: value plays of the week. So but we have Pennix
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  Speaker 2: at forty five hundred at quarterback, we have the Gibbs situation.
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  Speaker 2: One interesting note on the Gibbs thing is I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he ends up. We'll see in high stakes, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he gets to like Hubbard levels of
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  Speaker 2: last week, because Ubbard was pushing almost sixty percent in
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  Speaker 2: the high stage. It was fifty eight in the live final,
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  Speaker 2: for example, but he was sixty five hundred and Strange
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  Speaker 2: was twenty five hundred. Strange got a slight boose. The
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  Speaker 2: thirty five hundred Gibbs is seventy five. He's going to
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  Speaker 2: be extremely popular for sure, for good reason. And we
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  Speaker 2: all can't wait for Craig Reynolds to come in and
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  Speaker 2: score two one yard touchdowns and then still watch as
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  Speaker 2: Gibbs gets twenty five and gets there. So we're good
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  Speaker 2: on that. I think that's kind of the setup of it, hoop.
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  Speaker 3: and do things, you know, separate from from where they
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  Speaker 3: are previously at at Ship and Nation. We have a
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: big team of guys, team of people working on this
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: and PGA is going to be a huge commitment for
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: us this upcoming season and moving forward. So when people
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: tell you need these projections or you need this guy's projections,
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: don't believe them. This is your home right here.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, love it, Nick, go collect in the chat mentioning it.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: And then Joanne, I appreciate that. You know, we always
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: want to take care of our founding members and that's
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: been a thing that's this goes to show, right anybody
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: who's in from the beginning has certainly been taken care
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: of for their support. So we appreciate it, all right,
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: title I'm gonna kick it to you man on the
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: first game. We've talked enough. We've got the Browns Bengals,
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: and I'll let you start this one off. The Bengals
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: is sort of one of those spots. I guess back
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: to Hoop's original point if you look at it, and
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: I mentioned the Chase stuff, but nobody wants Higgins. He's
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: in pretty much, you know, same range as some of
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: these other guys, Chase being kept in check, and then
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Joe Burrow not really being looked at at all at
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred. So give me your thoughts on this
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: first game here, Browns Bengals.
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish it was Jamis I even like the
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: Bengals stuff more. But at ownership, I definitely like the
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Bengals stuff and I do not like the Browns stuff
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: at zero runbacks for them Bingals side so many ways ago.
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: Chase Brown obviously one of the chalkiest spots on the slate,
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: rightfully so. Since Zach Moss went down, his role been
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: one of the best in the NFL. Really good running
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: back himself, too explosive, catch the ball out of the backfield.
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: I think he's like minus two ten to score something crazy,
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: good play I like Joe Burrow a lot. You can't
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: obviously play Chase Brown with Joe Burrow because he can
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: catch passes out of the backfield. You can also if
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: you want to leverage the Chase Brown stuff being a
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: Burrow with just Chase Burrow with jis Higgins or Burrow
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: Chase and Higgins and look at their ownership. Chase is
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: definitely getting some But I mean, I will you know what, Yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Philly said it. I'll give a little sneak peak scarface
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: our guy over here. He has little Jamar Chase as
• 16:44
  Speaker 4: a slate breaker. It's great scarface and absolute great DFS player.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Does some content over here to check that out. But
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: wanted to shout that out. Higgins looking at absolutely no
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: ownership and in Burrow stacks as well. I'm good with
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: Mike Koseki. Now, the snapch count is really low. I
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: always hate that that Drew Samples of the world Tanner
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Hudson's of the world. But when Gaseeki is on the field,
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: he's like another receiver. He usually plays in the slot.
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: Burrow's always looking for him in the end zone. Twenty
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: two so three percent two percent. He's a pivot from
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: these other cheap guys. Some people will be going to
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: I like it. I'd also like Bengals defense. Duran Thompson
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: Robinson is awful more of a running quarterback. Can make
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes there, easy fade brown stuff. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: will be playing a lot of Bengals and checking that
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Burrow Higgins Chase ownership. I definitely will be playing Bengals,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: and I'm good again over playing Burrow with two of
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: the three or two of the four, I should say,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: and not playing any Browns on the other side.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tillman out again. Hoo. Any thoughts on the Cleveland
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: pass catchers or anything going on there? And I think
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: did they announce David and Joku yet? I know it's
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: trending like he's going to be in, but just want
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: to make sure he was back at practice on Friday.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think he'll be in, but we'll
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: wait and see him. Will have the update this morning
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: once we get our next update in. But give us
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: your take on this one.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Hoop go ahead?
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah and Djoku yeah, so officially questioned the ball. Don't
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: it sounds like he might be in a lot of
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: the same as what what what what title said and
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: the one thing I did want to point out is
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: last week, like very high on the Bengal stuff. Last
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: week the passing stuff, and it was on pace to smash,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and I think it was yeah, I mean just it
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: was on pace to absolutely smash and I had it
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: on my main team, Loving life is like we're good
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to go. Well when you're playing the Titans and Will Levis,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: a pick six is always looming. In a pick six
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: when you already have a lead, we'll just shut the
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: ship down. In terms of the passing game, That's what happened,
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: Like you know, without that that pick six, if it's
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: just an interception, they get the ball, they continue to
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: sling it. Joe Burrow as a massive game now. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: think this week it's a situation that we're able to
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: take advantage of because they're still passing the ball a time.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, their passing rate is so so high. And
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: that's not saying anything against Chase Brown because he's part
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: of that passing attack. So the nice thing about the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow stuff is you compare Yeah, Burrow a lot
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: of people. If they go Burrow, it's gonna be Burrow
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to Chase. But it does the salary does dry up
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: pretty quick. You know that's somewhat expensive. I want to
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: be overweight on that. I want to be overweight on
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: double stacks. I want to be in on the Jesseki
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: stuff like you guys talked about. The issue though, for
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: sure is the run back, and I'm fine just not
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: running it back like they'll continue to pass. Totally fine
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: with that big team total approaching twenty eight, so I
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: love and Burrow's kind of priced a little awkwardly. You know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: he's not in that top tier. He got the top
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: tier guys, but there a lot of people are going
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: to that mid tieries kind of right there in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: middle where a lot of people say, maybe I just
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: go up, maybe I go down. I think the Bengals
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: are in a phenomenal spot to put up a big
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: number today. I think they do. I like their defense
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: as well. I like all parts of this passing attack.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: You can do a lot of different things. I mean,
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: you can go Burrow with Chase Brown honestly, and that
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: be your stack and not play Chase in Higgins hope.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: You know, he passes ones and Chase Brown. Chase Brown
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: gets one on the ground and then you know, maybe
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: two more one to Chase one to Higgins and that's
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: how that stack kind of gets there. So a lot
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: of different things you can do. One of my favorite
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: plays on the slate though, but by far.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: As Joe Burrow, they gotta win too, right, like everybody talking, Yeah,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: so twenty seven points at home, big favorite, lots of
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: love for Brown and the d I get it. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: like that too, but I like the Burrow Chase stuff.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: The way to cut into it, I think is what
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: you know title had mentioned in the chat, brought it up.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: One less, one less JABEBRONI to worry about with Tanner
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Hudson out, so you can play. You can play Burrow Chase, Gaseki.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: You don't have to run it back. But I think
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: with them missing some options on the other side. And
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: when you and I did the first look show this week, Hoop,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: that was the other thing we talked about, like, uh,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: we'd rather it be Jamis because we think he can
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: keep the game going. But I think it's fine here.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I think dtr can do enough where somebody can. So
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: if you do run it back, I'm fine with it.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And I think you know, Judy's expensive, but more is there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: If Djoku plays, you could do that Jerome Ford. I know,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: our guy Ham talking about the value report and the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: slate pland Scarface does the value report. The slate plan
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: is the FanDuel from him, which has won me a
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: lot of money. He likes a little Jerome Ford this week.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of ways you can go in
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: this game, and it's, you know, looking a little bit.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: I think it's going a little bit overlooked outside of
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: just the obvious Chase Brown Bengals D there's certainly some
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: opportunities within this one. All right, let's check it out
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: here and see this is what I had up earlier
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: off the top of the technical difficulties, I apologize, but
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: keeping the likes in check. So one hundred and sixty
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: five likes. If we get to four hundred, we'll bring
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: it back. But for now, gonna go back to the
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: three man booth. We got it set up here, ready
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: to go and hoop. I'm gonna go to you giants
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: at Falcons and how are you handling this? Because this
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: is the talk of the slate right now. Obviously with
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Michael Pennix Junior all the potential jokes out there. We'll
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: see how this one goes today. But how do you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: think he holds up here at forty five hundred bucks.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: Forty five hundred, I mean definitely will take some chances.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And like if he's doesn't have the past catchers that
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: he has, it's probably a situation in tournaments where I
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: sam know what, I'm good, he's going to be popular.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: I'll just fade him that sort of thing. But with
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: the past catchers he has, the team totals big sitting
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: at twenty six, the team he's playing absolutely sucks the Giants.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: So I'm in on it. And the reason I'm in
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: at because there's a lot of different things you can do. Again,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: another situation where I wouldn't mind pairing them with his
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: running back in Bijon. I think that's a totally fine pairing.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: And you have to imagine now that they've gone on
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: from Kirk Cousins, like it's going to be full on Beijeon,
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: which it has been lately. It's trending in that direction,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: so penex Bijon, and then you have four pass catchers
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: that you can go with like obviously Drake London, Mooney,
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: Ray Ray McLeod and I don't even hate Pitts, Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: what do young quarterbacks love doing like they just love
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: finding their tight end. Pitts is going to be unowned.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: It's been a disaster obviously for Pits, like it has
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: not worked out well, but unowned Pits with a rookie quarterback,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely interested. So the main reason I'm in on
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: the Pennock stuff is because so many different ways to go.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: Not thrilled with the runbacks, I get it. Neighbors is
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: sixty one hundred. A lot of people are gonna want
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: to play him, probably underweight. I am gonna play Neighbors
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: just because I will have a lot of the Falcons stacks,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: but I don't love the neighbor stuff. Wondale Robinson forty
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: one hundred. I think is fine. Tyrone Tracy maybe a
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: little bit of him. But I'm not thrilled with the runbacks.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: But definitely in on the Atlanta stuff. They're projected to
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: score twenty six. He has five guys really that you
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: can kind of pair him with, So I really like it.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Definitely like it, and again like try to do something
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: a little different. He's gonna be owned, like, there's no
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: doubt about it. Forty five hundred starting quarterback projected to
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: score twenty six. But a lot of different ways you
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: can go about stacking Pennex today, so I'm very very interested.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the one I like, my favorite is actually said
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: is with Pitts, and I don't care about the matchup,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: if they're good against the tight end or not. They're
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: still the giants and it's one game and we've seen
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: it so many times. I've seen it with the I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: mean it's just once. I like a bigger sample size.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: But you mentioned who you can go back forever. They
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: use these tight ends a lot, and that's a way
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: to naturally get different right away. I like the call
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: with using him with Bijon if you want to stack
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: him up. I think most are just using him naked
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: or with somebody, you know, a one player with them.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You could go with a London or a Mooney or
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: a double stack like a Mooney Pits whatever. And I
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: do like Neighbors on the other side. So before I
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: go to title, because title was the Drew Lock guy.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: That's the most interesting thing to me. So Drew Lock
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: with Neighbors has been awesome. I know it's a small sample,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: but it's NFL. We don't get a great one every week,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: so you know, that we can go on this spot.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: To me, if Neighbors is going to be popular, then
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: why not try and flip the quarterback to the less
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: popular He's been getting sixteen seventeen DraftKings points at forty
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: nine hundred. People are taking a shot on Penix hoping
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: for that and not knowing if they'll get it. We've
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: seen nothing but that from Drew Lock. So if you
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: want to flip the build, I love Bijeon, and you
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: can just play Locked Neighbors Bijeon and call it a
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: day and then we'll talk cheap defenses. But I will say,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: if you're not landing on the Penick stuff and you're
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: not playing Bijon to leverage, I mean, it's a twenty
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: six point team total. I like getting a piece of them.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: But if you're not, then you could just land on
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the Giants d Because what if he makes those mistakes?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: I think I don't know, Ted, I'll go to you
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: on this. This is a quarterback where I think they're
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: gonna let They're gonna see what he has right away.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think they're gonna be trying to protect it
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: or hide it as much, so I think there could
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: be some mistakes made there as well, And I know
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: some lineups. You know, at that price, you could even
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: have Pennix and the Giants. D not ideal on the eleven game, slave,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: but I'll kick it to you on this one.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I like the Giant side a lot more than
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: most people, which means I definitely like the Falcon side too.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Like Drew Locke, give me him over Tim Boyle any day,
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: Tommy DeVito any day. I think they actually moved the ball,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: So I'll start a Giant side, obviously neighbors coming with ownership,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: but just a PPR monster target monster, I will say.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I also like a lot of one Wandel Robinson at
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: forty one hundred too. Talk about another PPR monster right there.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: We're not seeing many viable receivers in that low four
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: k range. I'm definitely good with some Wandale. I like
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: Tyrone Tracy a little bit too. Again, everyone's spending up
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: at running back. Tyrone Tracy out there at fifty five hundred,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: he's plus one fifty five to score. Again with Drew Lock.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: This is one of the three games in a dome.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: I think they go over the team total. I think
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: they move the football. If you're looking at the Stone
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: Falcons defense isn't really good either, So because I like
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: a lot of those giants and individual pieces, I wouldn't
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: hate going Drew Lock, I guess because of that, I'm
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: open to it, but I definitely like the Falcon stuff
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: implied for one of the most on the slate. My
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: favorite by far is Bijon. Every wants a mess with
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback. I get it. I'll get there in
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: a second, but man like rookie quarterback in a dome
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: is big favorites. Why would you not give one of
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: the best running backs of football twenty five plus times
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: one of the best touchdown props on the slate, and
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: he's right by Gibbs and Chase Brown. He's a little
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: more expensive and he's projects less, so he has to
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: be a lot less owned. Bijon just makes so much
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: sense to me in so many ways. But I tell
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Bejon every week, I just think he's a top five
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: running back. So yeah, take that with how you want.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: I've been going back and forth on the Pennick stuff.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's coming with ownership, no doubt about that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: I'm good with London and Mooney and ray Ray. I
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: guess I think Mooney London is my favorite. If I'm
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: going Penmix, definitely can play Bijon with him. I don't
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: love it naked. I'm done with Pitts, and I know
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: this is probably the worst time to jump off because
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: it's a new quarterback. I'm just gonna play all these
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: other tight ends. Now is the time Pits goes off.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: More than Strange. By the way, just now that you
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: brought the may made me think about it right there.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: It's you know, everyone's gonna play Strange at ownership and
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars more, you get Kyle Pitts. If we
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: said any.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: Time unowned, I mean literally, I mean they're they're I
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: mean the project. What do we have them? Uh only pulled.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, give me seven hundred lesson Koseki.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: If you're playing, if you're playing one fifty, if you're
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: playing one fifty and you're playing if you're playing one
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: fig I get it. If you're only building twenty teams.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: If you're doing three teams or five teams, if you're
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: playing like fifty, if you're playing fifty or more and
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: you're playing pin X, you're doing yourself a disservice, not
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: just getting a little bit.
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: If you play five percent, you're double the field. And
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: it's has not been fun at all. I mean ever,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I mean really, I mean the last is this a
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: second year or third year?
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: It's his third year, Yeah, third year.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I mean he's disappointed probably ninety five percent of the time.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Something just tells me it's it's it's just one of
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: those weird feelings. Man, it's just I feel like it's
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: gonna be good. I'm with you, it's just weird. I
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: I hope you guys are wrong. But I will say
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: for this, his rushing props seven and a half yards
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: and people will do it. I just think it's going
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: to be so over owned. Like I just like if
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: he gets there on the optimal and eleven game slate.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Like I think a lot of people do that. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: think a lot of people, way too many. Yeah, I'll
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: just take the cheap quarterback and I will get all
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: the other studs on the slate.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: So I think it's awful. And especially large field tournaments,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: that's what I should specify. The smaller the field. Fine,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: it looks like Tambo disagrees.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I think it's laughing because you've got God on the joke.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: He's just making a joke because there's too many Panics
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: jokes today. But you know it's good, But it definitely
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: is a question at the same time. But I will
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: say the chap brought their best one hoop and it's
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a true David versus Goliath. Do you want Penix Junior
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: or do you want the Giant D. You want it
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the Giant D or the Penix Junior. Well, you know
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: who you think you're taking in this battle. That's really
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: what we got here.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: I have no shame. I'll take the pen X Junior.
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Give me the junior pen X man, I'll take it.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's so they really want him to succeed,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: Like the timing of all of this, Like all right,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: the Giants one of the worst teams in the NFL.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: We're at home, Like they clearly know what they're doing. Yeah,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: it is if like that's their future. They took him eighth.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: This guy was projected for a second round pick, like
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: that was the biggest reach people said in the last
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: like five years, Like a really crazy pick, especially what
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: they just did with Kirk Cousins. So they were incentivized
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: to make this at some points and they're gonna want
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: to make him work, so like, I'm not saying I'm
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: fading Pennix by any means, And when I am playing them,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: it's London and Mooney or En Bijon. I will include
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: in there because of this price, but my favorite way
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: for sure is Bijon. And yeah, again, I like three
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: individual pieces, Tyron, Wandale and Melik Neighbors, So yeah, this
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: is a game I'm gonna play, and I guess for
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: those reasons. It's easier to eat Chalkier Pennix because his
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: pass catchers aren't getting ownership, and I like the other sides.
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: I'll run it back. They're not getting much ownership outside
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: of Milak Neighbors, So I like this game a lot
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: for sure. Bijon my favorite play though I.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: Like the last point too. We did this Hoops when
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: doing all season good call outs with Jerry Jones for
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: the Cowboys. But talk about a team that needs to
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: validate something, they're just what are they shelling out like
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: sixty I think Cousins made like eight million a game
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: for the amount of games he played. They're gonna drop
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: them so they don't have to pay him the extra
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: ten but he's gonna walk away with like seventy million
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: on fourteen games or something. My math is off a little,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: but my point being that then the eighth overall, etc. Like, Yeah,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they got to try and make this guy work. Just
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: pride involved, Yeah, and everyone.
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: Kind of get I think it was like a calculated
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: situation too, Like I'm sure they knew what they were
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: gonna do. They signed Cousins, who. Yeah, the money part sucks,
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: but I mean, these teams are obviously just printing and
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter at all to them the financial part.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: But they got a quarterback that they could dump at
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: any point and no one was going to be mad.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: So the first signs of him playing like shit, the
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: first signs of the season being over, they just pull
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the plug on it. So, assuming the financial part doesn't matter,
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: which I don't think it does for any of these
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: NFL teams because they're making so much money, the Kirk
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Cousins thing kind of makes sense. The reason they brought
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: him in probably knowing they were gonna get pen X
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and they just said, all right, we can dump this
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: dude at any point, no one's going to be mad,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: and then we get our rookie quarterback. We just roll
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: with him. So I think it was a calculated move
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: on their part where a lot of people are giving
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: them shit. I think they kind of, you know, foresaw
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: something like this happening.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, none of these guys are hurting. They're billionaires, man.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: They sit around and tare. They don't like to be
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: called out though. That's the main point which is funny
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: about it, right, They're just like, damn, how can I
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: keep getting called out like this? So they look to
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: make it work. They get the stuff in behind it.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I just thought titles call it was pretty solid there, Hoop.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'll go back to you Cardinals at the Panthers when
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: we talked about this, so we did update the ownership.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: It's flipped since we talked. I know the other day
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: it was crazy that Cuba was still showing higher. I
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: think there's certainly late steam on James Connor for good reason,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and he's gonna be up there. But it is a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: great spot. But Kyler McBride, everyone paying down at tight end.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: McBride probably the guy they're paying up four but I
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: think eighty five percent of the field probably still won't
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: have him. And then you do have Chuba Hobbard on
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: the other side feeling it sounds like all these guys
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: like Cocher and Moore are both gonna be good to
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: go when they were questionable all week. So what's your
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this game, Arizona at Carolina.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another one of these situations. I just can't quit.
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: And I think we did talk about it on the
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: First Look show. It's like the Kyler stuff. I don't
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: think he's gotten there all season. Maybe maybe like one
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: time where it's worked out, but I just I for
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: some reason, just can't stop it with him. And it's
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: a really good spot. They're projected to score twenty six.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, maybe I'm an idiot, but I'm
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: buying into the trade McBride stuff like wanting to get
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: him touchdown. I mean, I usually you guys know me.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: I'm not like a narrative like I'm going to buy
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: into this ship, but they want to get this dude
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a touchdown if that means a couple extra red zone
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: targets like I'm in. And I think the ownership on
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: it is gonna be too low. A lot of people
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: are gonna want to go cheap, So I am buying
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: the trade McBride touchdown stuff today. It is going to
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: impact my ownership on him because it's going to be
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: higher than the field honestly for that reason. So call
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: me an idiot, whatever, but I think they definitely try
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: to get this dude a touchdown. I mean, it's an
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: insane streak the number of receptions he has and no touchdown.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I think it happens today.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: So all they do is throw a fade route to
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: Marvin Harrison literally every single every time. Yeah, and it
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: never works, never annoying, annoying.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: Every one of those goes to McBride instead up the middle, right,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: I mean it's got to I mean the Marvin Harrison
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: ship has I know exactly what you're talking about. I
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: know the plant they wind him every time, great out,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: they throw it in compte the end zone incomplete every
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: single time. Yeah. I just think they get they try
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to get him the touchdown. I'm buying into it. If
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: if it cost me today, cool, I'm not worried about it.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: But for that reason, I'm in it's crazy. But I'm
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: playing Kyler more than I would for that reason as well,
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: because I do think, you know, they're going to try
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: to get this dude a touchdown, So in on him,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: in on a little bit of Harrison the price on
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: on DK at fifty four, and I really like James Connor.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: I mean he is, his workload is so damn secure,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: like so secure, he can catch passes, he can get
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: goal line work in on him, and then you know
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: you have runbacks on the other side. Hubbard feeling Cocher
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: all fine option. So this is a game at nice total,
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: sitting at forty seven, have runbacks if you like the
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Kyler stuff. So I'm in on this one in a
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: in a pretty big way today.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, honestly does feel we're pretty aligned here. But it
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: feels like it's not the the they get him the touchdown,
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it's the damn burst and as he gets two of
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: them because they just say, you know, we couldn't get
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: him any for so long. Let's end. Now just hit
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: hit boom and he gets two touchdowns and then you're
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: you know, you need two tight end lineups if Strange
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: does have a good day, or if he doesn't, you're
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: in big trouble with those paydown options. So I definitely
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: think that's an interesting call. I even like just Kyler
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: McBride and then pick one on the other side, whether
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: it's one of Hubbard, DeLand Cooker, whoever you prefer. Definitely
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: interested in that. I mean, twenty six point team total
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: on the road. They feels pretty good for Arizona to
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: do something. Obviously, like everybody else, I prefer James Connor.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: I think it's a great spot here. But the main
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: thing is that, you know, you can use him tons
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: of different ways. You can mix them in with Kyler
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: in those stacks, you can use him in secondary stacks.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: There's tons of different ways. But title, what do you
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: got on this one? Man? How are you thinking about it?
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: These first three games are some of my favorites. I
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: definitely like Trey McBride. I did forget last week too.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: They did try. They did the good old Kelsey underhand,
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: like shovel to him and he still didn't get in
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: and that was really tilting. So they did try. And
• 35:55
  Speaker 4: I'm with you, but I like this game a lot.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's hard not to apply for twenty
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: six points roughly, and the Panthers have been like, shout
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: out to Bryce Young. He didn't complain, he didn't hang
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: his head or all that. He got to work. He
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: had a positive attitude, and he's came back and he's
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: definitely looked good. Adam feeling I think has probably helped
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: his main guy. I'm gonna keep right him and Cuba
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: on that side look great to me. Jale and Cocher.
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with him too at low ownership, but mainly
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: Cuba feeling his individual pieces, and then give me all
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: the Kyler con Or McBride, and then I will play
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: some Marvin Harrison too, because that price is just really cheap,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: and I expect one or two Fader routes to him
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: if he does get there. But it's such a good game,
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: Like we're talking Penix in that last game, he's projected
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: for like double the ownership is Kyler, and I get
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: we play a salary based game. What it gets you,
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: et cetera. But I still think a quarterback on the
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: slate is gonna probably put up twenty five plus or
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: something around there, Like I don't think seventeen from Pennix
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: at eighteen percent or whatever it is. I'd rather Kyler
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: for a little more, and I like the pass catchers
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: a lot too. McBride. Again, it is more expensive, but
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I mentioned Tracy, there's Madison that we talk about I
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: don't necessarily love that the wan Dale's cheap. There is
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: enough value cheap ish stuff Patrick Taylor's of the world
• 37:10
  Speaker 4: that gets you on a different build that way. So yeah,
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: give me a lot of this game. I guess I'll
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: throw it back to you on this dam because I
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: know I'm going Kyler, the Connor, McBride, Harrison, Tuba Feelin.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: Are you going any Bryce Young? And how do you
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: compare him? You mentioned Drew Lock. How do you compare
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: them to like at Drew Lock?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like Locke better. If I'm picking, I gotta
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: look where I actually considered Bryce Young, even though it's
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: not like it matters. On DraftKings, he's just as cheap.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: But on FanDuel at sixty seven hundred, there's you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: some of those quarterbacks, like I think going back up,
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: I think Pennix is six k over there. You can
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: find seven hundred dollars anytime you want on FanDuel if
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you want to run like a young feeling and pick
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: a guy like McBride on the other side, or just
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: put James Connor in there. But I do like the
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: lockside better with you, just it's a way to get different.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: I like Bijon so much so that one made sense.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: But the what was the other thing you just made
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: me think of? I was gonna say it the the
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: McBride's Oh yeah, yeah, the backup running backs for Arizona.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Hence the extra steam on James Connor. Like, I just
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: really do see them putting up these points today. And
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I think that's where you know, people so many times
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: think we're here to talk about picks and all you
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: said this about this pick or play. The Cardinals spot
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: is good. Whatever happens is just a result. But what
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: we're talking about is why it's a good spot and
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: where there's that you know, that leverage, like you said,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: salary based game title, But sixty one hundred is not
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: that crazy. It's still not eighty seven hundred. For Josh Allen,
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: he could put up twenty to twenty five or more.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: And then you've got guys that you think it's gonna
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: be with with Harrison and McBride, so you've got runbacks
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: and you don't need them if you don't want to
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: go there. So I think, no matter what happens, it's
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: a good spot. It's just whether or not it works out.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Hoop and I were in titles jumping in. I mean,
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: this is definitely a spot where I think a lot
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: of tournament players will be at today because it makes
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: sense on paper. That's why we typically have a portfolio.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Even if you have five lineups, you got a five
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: lineup portfolio. You can put it in one if you want.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: But I think it is a good spot. So anything else.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Title, No, nothing else. I like that game a lot,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the first three games, Like some of these games coming up,
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: it'll be a lot quicker. I will be Yeah, these
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: noon games I hope go off.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if this one will be quicker, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: I'm going to go to the Hoop on it first
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: because a couple of reasons. One, we know the you know,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the lions side of things. We've got Gibbs to talk about.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: You did a great job, I think Hoop on the
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: first Look show talking about breaking that down, so I'll
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: let you hit it again here for those that missed it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: And then also the stones not up, but we'll always
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: still give away some of the tidbits from it. The
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: highest stack ranking I've ever seen on our stuff for
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: stack rankings, and you got to be interested in that
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: as well. So Hoop I'll kick it to you, Caleb
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Williams and the Bears at home versus your team, the Lions.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, another really good game, a big total.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Sitting at forty eight, Lions still projected to score twenty
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: eight actual points and I think they likely get there.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: And you know the reason this game is so appealing
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: is the Lions defense is just beat up. And obviously
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: this is not the Josh Allen in Buffalo Bill's offense
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: they're facing today. It's Caleb Williams, and you know, you
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: know who is a much shittier quarterback than Josh Allen.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: But the Lions defense is not good and it's really
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: beat up right now. And if they're going to have
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: long term success, they have to score points. And again
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: Vegas thinks they score twenty eight. I just don't think
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: they can slow down basically any somewhat competent offense today.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Now is the Bears offense competent, that's up for discussion,
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: but I think it's going to be competent today. And
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: the nice thing about Caleb Williams is he has pass
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: catchers like Keenan Allen, DJ Moore A Donsay have all
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: looked relatively solid I mean a Dunsay has been up
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: and down a little, but we got Keenan Allen and
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: Dj Moore. Caleb Williams is cheap. He does have a
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: little bit of rushing upside. I really, really, really like
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: the Chicago Bears side today. I think they put up points.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I think this is a high scoring game. The one
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: concern is, you know this this you know in Chicago,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: colder weather, but doesn't look like there's any wind or anything,
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: no precipitation. I just think this is a slam game.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: So many different ways to play it. Because I'm in
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: on it big. I'm gonna play DeAndre Swift as well.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: Pretty cheap running back play that's more of like a
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: safety nut situation. I know, I'm big on this game.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: Like if they get down there and it's Swift over
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: Caleb Williams, I just don't want to get burned that way.
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: And I can get enough ownership on Swift. He's not
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: going to be highly owned where it makes sense. So
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: I'm in on all sides of the Chicago Bear stuff,
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: and I'm also in on the Lion stuff. Jared Goff. Listen,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: they start out every single game this season and on
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: offense with David Montgomery out there. Montgomery is obviously not
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: going to be out there. I guess there is some
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: hope that he might come back, and the injury wasn't
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: as serious as initially thought, But for today they're without him.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Gibbs is going to be out there first. And yes,
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Gibbs is good at running the ball, but he's more
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: you know, past catching dangerous. So I do think it
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: leads a passing approach for the Lions, which is good
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: for Amnra who's coming in at like no ownership, good
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: for Jamison Williams, and then our guy Laporta, who you
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: know has been a disappointing season, but I think heyp
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: benefits from the Montgomery stuff too. Then Gibbs will be
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: like the highest one guy in the slate most likely,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. I mean, it's no secret they're
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: projected to score twenty eight. He should get a majority
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: of the work, and a lot of people are talking about,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: you know, him getting vultured by Craig renoldsters very possible.
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, that could definitely happen. That's not out of
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the wrong possibilities. I'm not playing Craig Reynolds, but this
• 42:20
  Speaker 3: entire offense I think is in a very very good spot.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Gibbs is very effectives catching passes. They're probably going to
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: pass a little bit more, which improves everything on the
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Lions side, and then you have very clear and direct
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: runbacks on the other side. Like overstack is in play
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: here for me today, and I do actually want to
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: actively overstack this game, because, yes, the individual pieces are
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: going to be owned. Gibbs is going to be popular,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: the pass catchers for Chicago will be popular, DJ More
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: and Keenan Allen. So I'm going to introduce some overstacks
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: of this game as well, because I just this Lion's
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: defense is so beat up right now. I just don't
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: think they can stop anyone any offense that's halfway competent,
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: and I do think this is at least a halfway
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: competent offense, So in on in a big way.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about PGA earlier the promotion. We don't
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: even avoid this in PGA. I'm not avoiding it in football,
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: and we're not playing kickers on a main slate, so
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: I don't care about any wins like that. I'm certainly with.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Before I go to title, I'll just say I mean
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: that's nothing. Yeah, and the other thing like oh, I
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: have so many people this week messaging me or talking
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: about Yeah. But Caleb Williams is not Josh Allen correct,
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: He's thirty two dollars cheaper. His offense is actually more condensed.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: It's better in some cases, and it's slate dynamics. It's
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: not comparing. It's it's like in PGA speaking of when
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: people are well this golfer versus this call, you still
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: have to put six into the lineup. We can do
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: stuff different elsewhere. Caleb Williams is fifty five hundred. It's
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: more condensed than the bills. We know. Gibbs is a
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: good play. You can overstack it, like Hoop mentioned, you
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: can involve some outsiders to split into this ownership you
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: know's no ownership. A manra who still somehow doesn't get
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: a tag eight k or more? Did he go down
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: in price from last week somehow? Like I don't even
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: I thought he was eighty two hundred, But either way,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: seventy nine hundred. Laporta, who's been getting in the mix
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: now like two of the last three games he's actually
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: showing up now, is forty seven hundred at No. Ownership,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: So there is a ton of different ways to play it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: And if the Bears and Gibbs get there, I don't
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: want to hear all the winding about the chalk because
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: that's it's built differently for a reason, and the slate
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: at hand matters. There's tons of different ways to use it.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Where you'll see that title, I'll kick it to you poop.
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: Do you guys have any d linemen the ends? Dan
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: Cambll'll gonna throw some blitzes. Can can you guys get
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: after the quarterback?
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Because no, well they lost They lost that McNeil dude too,
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: that Allen McNeil, who they just gave a massive contract to.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: They have they have nobody that can get to the
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: quarterback and that's the main concern. And you just obviously, yes,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: I get that, and people a lot of people are saying, Oh,
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: he's no Josh Allen, Yeah, much cheaper, and he's playing
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: the same defense that I mean Josh Allen was walking
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: into the end zone with like nobody within fifteen feet.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: They have no chance of And they've always been even
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: the good defense has been bad against against running quarterba
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: Like the good defense when they had all their guys
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: so they have no one that can get to the quarterback.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Who wins in a race? Josh Allen or Caleb Williams.
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: I'm probably Josh, but I don't know. Really, let's go,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: let's look it up forty let's look at their forties
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: on the probably.
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, what is the chat thing before they cheat? Well,
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: what is the chat thing? Who wins in a race?
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: That's too big, man, I mean, it's gotta be Caleb,
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: and Josh Allen is like six four or something.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: It's not gonna say the answer until that until people
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: put it, but they might be looking.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It's I guess our guy. Shout up to Tom Brady
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: as Gray had the big Schultz call in the discord yesterday.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I was up there to ship too for a while,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: solo right at the end. He ran bad at the end,
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: unfortunate a great team.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: So he said this, and this worked by the way
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: I did. Again, it didn't. I know a lot of
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: things hit last week. They didn't actually show up on
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: winning lineups, but those golf lineups opposite of Josh Allen
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: still turned out pretty well last week. We know either
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: of those guys can have a bad game at any time.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: But if you have golf here with a Manra Laporta,
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: you're leveraging Gibbs. You're in the same spot. And we
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: just talked about how easy it is to pick one
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: of these guys from the other side if you want
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: to do it with more or Alan. I think that's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: probably where most people start. But I'm fine with that
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: because they're kept in check. Jared Goff one percent, a
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Monroe less than five percent, Laporta less than five percent.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love that build, to be honest, just
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: as from a tournament perspective, it's complete leverage. You've got
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: some guys like Laporta and the cheap to cut into it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: So probably like Keenan Allen just more because if DJ
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Moore has a big day, it's always you know, a
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: couple of touchdowns or something, and that would really help
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the Caleb side. So I probably pick it up that way.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: But I'll go back to you title.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: First of all, I will yep. People said it up.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: Hoop was right, Caleb ran a four or five six,
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: Alan four seven to one. But y'all know the answer
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: around that. Come on, now, forty that might be hoops
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: adraight there?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: Forty hoop forty exactly forty, but uh yeah, I don't
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: know that I'd be down to do it. You might
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: be favored, but I'd be down to do it next
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: time we meet up.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: For sure, title doesn't have a bad ankle from the past.
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: If that's totally healed, that's totally healed.
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely down to the five hundred, just like whether
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: five hundred on it, Like at the double.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: If Ravens win, I can get a thousand. If not
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Lions win, we can get get my money back.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: I'm forty. You got what I got fifteen years on you.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: So I think I I think in this scenario, I'm
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: definitely gonna need some sort of odds just based on age.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: So I mean, it can't it can't be astre one thirty.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Five plus one thirty five plus one.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Feel I think, like, I mean, you're you're going against
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: a forty year old. I mean, you and I were
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: at a blackjack table together and the youngsters were calling
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: me old man.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: I will see you're at the gym every day. Forty
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: is just a number. Come on, you can stay young forever.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: I think I think two to one is probably fair.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: You got two to one, it's gonna be closed twenty six.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm forty.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: I got literally to be twenty now about to be thirteen.
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: So I got thirteen and a half years on you whatever,
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: whatever the hell it is, like, I mean, it's got
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: to be.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Too yeah, yeah, you can definitely be in bring bring
• 48:00
  Speaker 4: the bands. You're in this, Come on, man, that's that's
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: you still gotta play basketball to him, I didn't forget
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I'll go straight up with him if he wants that,
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: even money for sure.
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, tell him, Anthony, tell him all right, back to
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: the game.
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: But man age I mean, you can't. You can't defeat
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: father time. You know you can't.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Come on, all right, this game? All right, Anthony, you
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: could throw the bands too.
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: Right, go ahead, title, go ahead, go ahead.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: So gives the like Tom Brady and shout out to him.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: He was up there for a long time yesterday. Very
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: sharp DFS player, Like that is what stood out to me,
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Like I don't necessarily love the cold all this, but
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: Vegas takes all that into consideration, they're still implied for
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: one of the most points on the slate. Gibbs could
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: come in like thirty five percent, a lard field like
• 48:52
  Speaker 4: fifty percent. Maybe who knows small field golf is might
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: be one percent. I'm in roth three percent. I never
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: say Theaport. I always shit on him, but I actually
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: do like Laport a bit this week, and I'm happy
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: Hoop did say that he thinks no Montgomery does benefit
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: him a little bit, maybe a couple more dropbacks, et cetera.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: So I am. I didn't really plan. I'm getting to
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: golf too much and not like you really have to
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: too much to get overweight. But I'm definitely in. And
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: you obviously could play him with Gibbs. I think Gibbs
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: is so so strong, I might like in my five
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: to seven handbuilds, I might just play him in every
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: single lineup. He's minus three ten to score. He's like
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: minus one twenty five for one hundred and twenty five
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: plus yards that's either receiving or rushing. He just looks really,
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: really really strong. Chicago side really easy for me. I'm
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: good with Caleb Keenan Allen, DJ Moore. That's the only
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: three I'm gonna mess with. I do get the DeAndre
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Swift thing a little bit, but I am a little
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: worried people mention it. Roshawn Johnson is back this week.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: And he's a lot of the goal line equity, and
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: I do think if Swift does get there, he probably
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: needs a touchdown. So I prefer the passing game that way.
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: I prefer like a tyrone Tracy right in the same
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: range to Swift. But yeah, you guys got me really
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: thinking about this Goss stuff. Twenty eight implied points at
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: no ownership and you can't play him with Gibbs too,
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: so that's interesting.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One other thing too, just the Craig Reynolds on FanDuel. Again,
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: I know he's four k on DK, so you can apply,
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: but you get ten grand more. They did like a
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: little just I don't know if it was just to
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: sell people like me, but when they put that extra
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: two hundred on the end when they could have made
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: him four k flat, I'm like, Okay, the only way
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: he really would be valuable is like a two touchdown
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: bet I think, or those two touchdowns make something work
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: on FanDuel. So I didn't go crazy with them, but
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I will note it here on the show just because
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: it's reminds me of like the Sean Tucker situation with
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Bucky that week, and everyone was all mad about it,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: Like I'm not even trying to make it work. On
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: DraftKings you only have fifty k as it is not
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: sixty like on FanDuel. And then on top of it,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Gibbs is only seventy five hundred on DraftKings. It's like
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: you can get to him so easily that it doesn't
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: matter if Gibbs has twenty five and Reynolds Robs eighteen.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Then that just tells you how good the spot was
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: for Gibbs, and it just the way it went. That's
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: how it goes, that sort of thought about upfront. So
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: I have no interest in that on DraftKings, but on
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: FanDuel they did sell me there, I know for sure
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: in a couple spots. So just to note it other
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: d I think we went through that game pretty good.
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: So one last thing.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: For me, I will even though I gives and Lions
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: defense with nothing else, I will do a little bit.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: And the reason for that is it's a different like
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: no one's playing Lion defense. It's a way to get
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: different that Cale Williams. The reason I asked about the
• 51:25
  Speaker 4: pass rushing and I wanted it that dude dances around
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: in the pocket back there and tore he thinks he's
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen. We'll about to find out, but he could
• 51:33
  Speaker 4: still take six seven sacks just because he like always
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: tries to make someone miss and thinks he can. So
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: that gives like really talking running back, no one playing
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: the defense. It is expensive. I still will play a
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: little bit, even with how beat up they are.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that call. I'm gonna stay with you. Actually,
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Titans Colts is the next one up, and we're still
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: in the morning games. We're about to hit I think
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: two hundred and forty likes or so, we get to
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: four hundred, we'll pull the stone back up and I'll
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: kick it to you. Title Titans at the Colts take
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: us through this.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this is where I don't have too much interest
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: on the Titan side. It's really just Kelvin Ridley. I
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: was kind of hoping Tony Power at least for my
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: best ball team still alive, that he was gonna miss
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: for Taji Spears, But he's gonna be in there, So
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I don't have any interest with Mason Rudolph instead of Levis, though,
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: I mean they had a bench Levis at half. It
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: was the most pathetic performance I've ever seen. Rudolph actually
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: moves the offense, and he looks at Kelvin Ridley. I
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: don't even think Chig's the craziest play like. He's actually
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: a solid tight end who can get upfield when he
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: catches the ball. I do look like look at Rudolph
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: as an upgrade, So I think Ridley's a little interesting. Again,
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: this is one of three games in home the other side.
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: I definitely like me some JT. You get a price
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: discount a little bit from the Chase Brown, the Gibbs
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: of the world. My favorite two pivots of those chalk
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: in that range is Jon for a little more, JT
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: for a little less. Guys that have absolutely nuking upside.
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: So I'm good with JT. A Rich is interesting, and
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: you can play him naked. I hardly ever do that
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: with quarterbacks, but he just has so much rushing upside
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: at the goal line. Josh Downs is cheap, thoughing Pittman's cheap.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna throw it right back to you on
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: this dam because it's really just Ridley j T. And
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: then I have interest in a Rich, But would you
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: play him naked or would you just skinny stack? And
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: with the Pittman Downs? And if so, do you have
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: a preference.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my preference is downs, and my guy ham likes
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: Addane Mitchell too. And you talked about the value report
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: earlier with Scarface. He liked a little Chig. So if
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: you mix the Scarface ham Our, Main FanDuel guys together,
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: you can do it on DraftKings two FanDuel whatever. But
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: that little secondary even got me interested. And then one
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: thing that was interesting at the start of the week. Yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Rudolph might deliver some presence. The only problem is they
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: might be to the Colts D, and the Colts D
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: was getting ownership. Now, it's not nobody wants them. They're
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: sitting there at three k Again. Rudolph is not like
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: these other backup quarterbacks that come in where they, oh,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: let's make sure we don't make mistakes. They're just gonna
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: let him sling it and do whatever he wants If
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: it works, awesome for a guy like Ridley, who we
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: kind of want to play and see him bounce back.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: But I like the richardson side quite a bit more
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: richardson downs. You could play the Colts D. You could
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: play Jonathan Taylor if you want Ridley on the other side. Chig.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: It's not like I love the game as much, just
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: I think there's definitely good secondary stacks in here or
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: just run the Richardson side, so hopefully that helps Hoop.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Do you have anything you want to add there, anything
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: on this game you like?
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm kind of in on the Cold Stuff because
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: of the price tags and what it allows me to do.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Like it's like the cheapest price tags these guys that
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: have had in quite some time. Richardson Pittman downs. I
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: don't even mind Mitchell. I'm with him on that. I'll
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: have some of him. And the one thing that always
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: fucking tilts me when I stack the Colts is that
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Puerce dude catches a touchdown every fucking time and I
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: never play his ass. His ass is out today. He's
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: out today. It's crazy. That's part of the reason why
• 54:50
  Speaker 3: I like the Colt stuff today. Does it not happen
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: all the time? I mean, I see the dude that
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: always catches it, he's out. So I think that's part
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: of the reason why I like the Cold stuff today.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Cheap and this Mitchell guy is out. He's been a
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: huge troll, so in on it.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: JT.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: I like a little bit more on fan duel, but yeah,
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: I'm in on this stuff. You got Ridley on the
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: other side as a fine run back if you want
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: to go that route.
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of things here, just real quick. The
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Philly Fantom brought this up earlier. That was the way
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: to cut into if you want to go on the
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: James Connor stuff, that's definitely a good way just to
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: slice into it right away. It makes sense if they're
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: up and you know, they got such a good team total.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: If you're not in on the passing stuff we talked about,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's interesting. Chig twelve targets last week definitely something.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And then you know the chat I always hates on this.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: I get it. Some of the members they say, don't
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: click the like button because they don't want you to
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: see the stone. The honest truth is, if you're spending
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: an hour per Sunday or more watching this show, you're
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: putting four or five hours into DFS. You're probably playing
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: DFS every slate on a weekly basis, whatever it might be.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: That's why we push it because the problems and stuff.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: But you can literally get in for like thirty four
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: dollars right now using b F fifty and see this
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: for yourself. It's gonna work out to like fifty cents
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: or something per slate on what you're actually playing. And
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: that's why shout out Joanne. You can have the Stone
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: founding member. Everything you need and more is right there.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: So that's why it's you know, we can only do
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: so much. We make the you know, the deal with you.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: But I think that's the key. Get into the nation,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: see what's going on. It's the most affordable, most valuable
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: content in the entire DFS space. We stand by that,
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: So hoop, anything else you want to add with that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: one man, if not take us into the Rams jets.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing else to add. I mean, we've been some
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: pretty appealing games, i'd say so far. I'm assuming we're
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: gonna get some stinkers here, and I don't know, there's
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: pieces in this one. I kind of like. I mean,
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: the one thing that definitely stands out is both teams
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: wanting to kind of pass the ball a little bit more.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I mean the Rams passing offense, you know, kind of
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: back to full strength to get Higbee back and a
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: limited capacity today not really in play for DFS, but
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: it does strengthen the overall offense. PUKA is an absolute beast.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, just an absolute stud and talk about it
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: all the time with Matthew Stafford. What has he done
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: all throughout his career, like locking in on one guy?
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: It was Calvin Johnson forever, well not it was Cooper
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: Cup for a while. Now it's Puka, and Puka is
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: his dude in on him. Cooper Cup at like an
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: all time low in price, and yeah, Puka is better
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: at this point for sure, But man, I'm sixty five
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: hundred for a Cup. I am interested there. I mean,
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: it is weird, like he's gotten no work like whatsoever.
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: I imagine at some point Matthew Stafford is going to
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: be like, hey, you know, I remember you. Don't worry,
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: I got you and flips to him, So I'm gonna
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: have some Cooper Cup. So cupping Puoka only plays for
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: me on the Rams side. On the Jet side, you know,
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: been talking about it for weeks. I mean, Aaron Rodgers
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: is highly incentivized to just continue to chuck it to
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: DeVante Adams big game last week. Wouldn't be surprised if
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: he does it again. Seventy one hundred. The price really
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: didn't go up all that much. And then Garrett Wilson's
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: down to sixty, So it's really those four wide receivers
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: for me. And I'm not one hundred percent of pose
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: to Aaron Rodgers today. I know he had the big
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: game last week. It feels they chased. I just think
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: they continue to pass the ball and I have runbacks
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: on the other side. So also, he's a guy that
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I might end up playing a little bit on DK SO,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: but it's definitely those four pass catchers wide receivers.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: That's that's the one today title. You go two jets,
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: one cup. You can put in Adams and Wilson got
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: everybody hoop almost took the water out. You get a
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: Cooper Cup at an all time low price. I don't know.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe he hasn't been hit up the breakfast club lately
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: with his boy Stafford, and I know it's been to Koua,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: But man, the lineup looks really good if you just
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: go Rogers, Adams Wilson Cup, and I can promise you
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: I added it this morning to the five fifty five
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: million maker with one of my tickets, so that that's
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: definitely added. I'm not playing a ton of this game,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: but man, someone did say though they taged me in
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: the Discord title and I know you get the tab up.
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Is there a big weather conversation here? What's this one?
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: Weather? This one is is temp in the twenties with
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: a ten mile and now we're a wind according to Roth,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: which I would not worry about.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, Aaron Rodgers probably put himself in a cold tank
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: before for a few days. I haven't watched a Nigma
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: yet on Netflix, but it's like self produce that I
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: can only imagine how engulfed Hea is in his own thing.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: But yeah, this is the spot. I think it's an
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: interesting one where if you have the stone you would
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: see the past defense rating, you would see the rush
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: defense rating. Breese Hall is sixty one hundred two. And
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: then on the other side, just to me, two really
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: condensed offenses. And before I finally eventually kicked to the title.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: The other thing is the Jets Jags. Last week we
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: keep talking about Caleb Williams. Is not Josh Allen going
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: against Detroit? Well what about last week? The Jets and
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Jags just two teams you can keep picking on. We're
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: gonna get to the Jags game later, But to me,
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: I think the Rams are just as easy to pick on.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: And the Jets on the other side both throw it
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: a ton. I got interested in this game.
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: I don't too much, but I hope they do throw
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: it because I have interests in Pooka. I've been interested
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: in Devonte Adams, like the cuff stuff's been really tough,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: but I mean, Pooka is always open. If I'm Matthew Stafford,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I ain't looking at anybody else except Pooka either, unless
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: he's double team. This dude's top three. I mean he's
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: insane right now. DeVante on the other side, it's just
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: real clear of the rapport with Aaron Rodgers, and man,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: I've loved seeing Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, he's been cooking, been
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: owning all these weirdos. Forty five rushing yards three hundred
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: two days ago or two games ago.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: After being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and unable to
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: win any games. That's time time to roll, boys, Let's go.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Now he's cooking. Now he's cooking, and hey, that's all
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: we care about in DFS. But right all that being said,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I'm still not playing him today. I prefer plenty of
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: other quarterbacks. I won't have much of this the backfield
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: for the jets like, I mean, I'm surprised Breestall's even playing.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: I don't think Kyron's the worst play, but again he's expensive.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: I prefer Bijon JT as pivots. I'll be playing plenty
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: of Gibbs, Chase Brown, Puka Davante, and I do prefer
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: Pooka by good Bits. He's just an absolute monster.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: They said that video is viral before viral was a thing,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: and someone said title might have been too young for
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: that title. You know, the two Girls One Cup? Yes,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: oh man, all right.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: The Awk of our generation?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's a great followed. Where's the mean coin at
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: so I can spike my whole networth into it and
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: just watch it away?
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: All right, let's move on these coins unreal Like I
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 6: love your posts the other day on X about it.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: It's like, I don't know what anybody is expecting. Like
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: somebody eyes there was like I don't know.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: Then you read about that and your algorithm on X
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: gets spiked by all these other ones and dudes, Like
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: just six months ago, this is what my mean coin
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: portfolio looked like. And it's got like three hundred and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: fifty thousand inutes because he ran it up and he's like,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: now it's down to seventy six hundred, but don't worry,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: we'll bounce back. Damn dude in a cash God.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 4: It's been tough. Ever since you asked me, Tambo, the
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: mark has been down a bit. I mean, I don't
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: know if he gave me some bad jus you behaved
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: were I.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: Don't know anything.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: It does seem like now it's kind of stabilizing with
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: the stock market as well. I mean the market was
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: down like ten days in a row and the cryptos
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 3: going down like at the same time, So I don't know.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: It's like, uh, it's interesting, definitely interesting.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: No financial advice, that's all.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: No financial advice. Yes, can you give us DFS advice
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: on this next one, because well, the games, you know,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: we're looking for these stinkers, and we're looking for these
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: bad games as we talked about. But now you've got
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: Eagles at Commander's title. I'll stay with you. Hurts at
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels. Nobody playing Saquon, Oh they say they are,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: but they're not clicking the button. And we know that
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: Ahwa's such a good play on the slate the matchup,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 2: nobody can get to them. But they're still not clicking them.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: So talk to me about the Eagles at the Commanders.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: I will have nothing in this game. I think the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: Eagles run the football. When they get to third and one,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: they QB sneak, they're hopefully they're on seven to eight
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: minute drives and the game bus after that. Like, if
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: you're playing Hurts, maybe it's Saquon that gets in. You
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: play Saquon, he gets the one Hurts gets in. If
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I am spending up at quarterback, give me the guy
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 4: that is absolutely nuked the past two weeks in Josh Allen.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Otherwise I'm saving. So yeah, I got nothing in this one.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: I like it quick, quick movement. We'll go over to
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Hoop on this one. I guess the big thing is
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: just Barkley. The one thing I will say, Hoop is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: if you move away from this game as looks like
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: many are. The reason you feel a little bit more
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: comfortable with it, I think, or at least people out
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: there do, is because they're, you know, the sort of
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: well Hurts could eat his lunch, Barkley could get some.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: They split. It doesn't end up being anybody you need there.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: They've got guys back now they're missing some but like,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's tough to get this spot right,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: So how are you handling it?
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: Going back and forth on it, just because it's gonna
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: be like unowned, like the Hurt stuff. But then it's like, man,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: you look at it, and they got to beat some
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: some real studs, Like you know, Jalen Hurts has to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: beat josh Allen aj Brown if you want to play
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: him as an expensive wide receiver has to beat a
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: lot of studs at at that position to be the guy,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: because you're not gonna be able to play two expensive
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: wide receivers in most spots. So going back and forth
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: on it, and this was the game I wanted to
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: get your guys' take on to kind of influence what
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 3: I end up doing. And I don't know. I do
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: think if you are underweight on this as a whole,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: just play a lot of Saquon Barkley And that's kind
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: of the direction I'm probably leaning just being off. But
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: the Eagles defense is good for sure, so being off
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: most of it and then just taking the overweight stance
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: and just give us the Saquon Barkley explosion spot, which
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: it could be. And I do imagine the Eagles on
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: the road here with a lot to play for would
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: be fine with an ugly wind. So I think I'm
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: kind of leaning that direction, just being off of it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 3: Give me the Saquon and Eagles defense. I like Eagles
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: defense as a play as well, and then maybe off
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: I don't know what are your thoughts to book.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the you nailed it again. I don't
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: know we're so aligned today but the Barkley. But maybe
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: it's a good day for ship a nation. We get
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: these billion makers of something. But I will say that
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: the Saquon Barkley call is just that. I hear a
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: lot of people talking about it. I follow pretty much
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: everything around the industry, and it just they're talking about it,
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: but they're not clicking it. I think, you know, it's
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: definitely one of the best matchups on the slate for them.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: Why would you not run the ball in a division
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: game against a quarterback like Jayden Daniels. I know he's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: out of it, but he's definitely to me third in
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: the MVP race. It's, you know, LaVar keeps doing his thing,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Josh Allen continues to do his thing, but just why
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: not keep jamming Barkley? I know he's the you know,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: a very selfless guy. We saw the record game title
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: brought up that time was a just awesome thing to
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: see from an NFL player that's really just about getting
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: to the championship and winning that super Bowl. But realistically
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: he's still got to play. It's this matchup. And the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: biggest thing for me about Barkley and why I like
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: him so much, is that running back seems like everyone
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: has it figured out, but there is potential for stuff
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: where it's a you know again, I love Gibbs. I'm
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: just gonna use him in this example though, seventy five
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: versus eighty three. What if Gibbs gets you nineteen and
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: it's a good day, but Barkley gets you thirty one
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: and it's a great day. Like little things like that
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: where I can actually see how it happens. So I
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: have interest in Barkley. The other thing is I will
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: say the last one and then we can go to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: the next game. But the hurts AJ brown spot is interesting,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: but it really forces you to take on those fragile
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: running backs because there's not much wide receiver value. But
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: if you're building it, it's not like Showdown where you're
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: just gonna fall into the same dupe as everybody. It's
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: an eleven games slate. No one's really going here. But
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: if you can put in like a Madison, a Patrick
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Taylor or something like that that you could put in,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: uh what did I say, Patrick Taylor Junior? If if
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: you do that, so I was sticking to the build,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: you will get yourself a lineup that still looks good
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: makes sense if these cheaper running backs come through. But
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: remember those running backs are kind of in good spots.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: We haven't got to them yet, but they are. It's
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: just uncomfortable for most So you can build this out
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: in a couple different ways. I don't know who anything
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: else that that changed your mind on or made you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: think of just going through it before we go to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: the next one.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: No, it was good talking through it because you know,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 3: I was initially thinking of trying to force in some
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Hurts and Daniels just because it's a low ownership. But
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: it's just takes away from so much else if you're
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: sacrificing a lot in those lineups to make it work.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm gonna you know, most likely I'm just
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: gonna roll with the Saquon stuff. Hope, it's a you know,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: grind it out when which division game on the road
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: like that probably is their goal, So I'm in on
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: that for sure.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: And one last thing to it as well is this
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: is a super interesting build for the slate, just a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: random one just to throw it out there. But if
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: you think that some of these pass catchers, because it's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of mid range wide receivers, could be one
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: of those weeks where it's here in the right place
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: but the wrong spot, you know, it ends up being
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: a Trey Tucker instead of a Jacoby Myers or just
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: something along those lines, or it's a we'll get to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: it later, but I know it's Christmas, but go back
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to Halloween. Get a Michael Myers in their titles boy,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: But it ends up being something like that. You can
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: get to a really unique build where you have like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: a Saquon Gibbs Bijon or something and you're leveraging like
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: all the good spots, you just need the pass catchers
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: to go your way. And if it ends up being
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: a spot where that happens with not many on the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: expensive quarterbacks and wide receivers mostly living in that mid tier,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: you could really bulk up your running back positions and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: even in the flex and just get a completely different build,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: something like a satellite or a higher dollar, smaller field
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: five thousand or less entries that can be massive to
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: lift you up there and really put you in a
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: position to ship laid into the slate. So title, I'll
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: go back to you for this next one. It's Vikings
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: at a Seahawks unless you had anything else you wanted
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: to add after we talked through it, But Vikings at Seahawks,
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: as Hoop realized, it's a good time to bail for
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. We love to see it.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: Not even sure it was a great time because I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: don't have much in this one, Hoop. So I'll try
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: and I'll try and prolong it a little bit. But
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, I always love Justin Jefferson. I shouldn't say that.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: I've had a couple of weeks I didn't and I'm
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: back to not loving him on a slate like this.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: If I go up, I think I prefer Jamar Chase,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: prefer Pooka. The running backs are all in the same
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: range too so much or not much Justin Jefferson and
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: the thing with like Addison, Sam Donald loves Jordan Addison
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: so like he's taken away so much from Jefferson this year.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: It's really just Aaron Jones on that side sub ten percent,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: right around ten percent in that Tuba range of less
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: than Connor. People aren't really going that cheap. He's six
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: point four K, but you're talking about like aj Brown hurts.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: Maybe Aaron Jones can be your most expensive running back,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: and then you go with Taylor or something. He's minus
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: one twenty five to score, has some pass catching ability
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: on the other side. For the Seahawks, two guys JSN,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: DK Metcalf feels really weird seeing DK five hundred less
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 4: props are pretty much identical on both of them. Eye
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: test wise, it seems like JSNS the number one still man.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: DK has that big boy upside mainly just one off.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: So if I skinny stack, it'd be Aaron Rodgers. I
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: guess that wouldn't be skinny if I go one of
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: both sides, be Aaron Jones and pick one of those two. Otherwise,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: I'm fine with just a JSN, just a DK, just
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: to Aaron Jones, but another game I don't love much.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: You said Aaron Rodgers by accident too, so it must
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: be good signs for our boy today. It's your man,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: you know, we get him in there. But so, what's
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: the weather in this one title that the chat was
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: talking about that as well? Maybe I missed it, but go.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: Ahead, No, I didn't say it. And yeah, so it's
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: a very wet day in Seattle, the driest parts around
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: game time, some scattered showers, That's what Ross said. And
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: it pretty much is another day ending and why in Seattle.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm not none of these weather games. He
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't have anything worse than yellow. And at the end
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: of the day, like when I see orange, that's when
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: I start really looking, I don't see any. So it's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: a pretty clean for December twenty second for sure.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hoop, that was you know, a quick one. You're
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: back ready to go. What's the thoughts on Seahawks at
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: home versus the Vikings?
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the one thing that definitely stands out
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: here is the cheap price tags on well, especially dk
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Metcalf fifty five hundred. I think he's a fine play.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Jays Enn at six k, I think he's a fine play.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: And then I don't mind Gino. I'm gonna play a
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: little bit of Gino at fifty seven hundred, just because
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: you know, they want to pass the ball, the very
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: pass heavy sort of team. If you want to run
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: it back, you have run back, you know, Jefferson, Addison,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Aaron Jones, TJ. Hockinson. There are ways you can go.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: So it's going to be low owned outside of like Metcalf,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: you know, everything on the Minnesota side should be pretty
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: pretty low owned. So just because of the price tag,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: zonem kind of in on Seattle. I mean, if you
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: do want to play some of those more expensive running backs,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: you need some some cheaper stacks, and it's a pretty
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: cheap stack a team that wants to pass it a
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: little bit. So, you know, moderate interest, not going to
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: be a ton, not going to be a large portion
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: of my portfolio, but I am interested in the geno
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: stuff a little bit.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 2: What about on the Minnesota side, would like the title
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: was talking about like Aaron Jones, Obviously he's always a
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Jetti guy, but just to say, like, you know, it's
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: been not great in eighty two hundred, but even Addison
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: is sixty two and he has been great. He's been
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 2: thirty and forty point games, been pretty consistent. Do you
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: have any Aaron Jones or Addison Love.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 3: If you're picking, I'd probably just go I'd probably go Addison.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: I mean I liked the I like a lot of
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of running backs ahead of Aaron Jones, so
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: he's pretty low on my list. It would Bede Addison.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I love that point that you just made, you know,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I was I actually I don't have a side in
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: this one, but I like how you pointed that out.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people don't look at
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: it from that perspective when they're looking at you know,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: how do I get to a play or if they're
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: handbuilding or something like that. I liked how you brought
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: it up. Is it's not even about Aaron Jones, good spot,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: bad spot, price whatever. It's like, there's so many guys
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: ahead of him, you said, And that's how you should
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: be looking at your lineups because that position is taken up,
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: and you're like, I'll just go to Addison if going
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: there on a runback. So you could do that move
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: this week that we've seen work a couple times these
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: past few weeks. You talked about be in a similar slate.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Gino only fifty seven hundred, Jackson Smith and Jigbow only
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: six k Metcalf only fifty five and Addison I'll say only,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: but I think most people are already landing on Brian
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior or Myers or someone in that range. Why
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: not flip that to somebody else In this case, it's
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: a runback that would make this thing go. So I
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: certainly think that's kind of interesting. If you want to
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: run Geno jsn DK and then get a little Addison
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: on the other side, you know, Hawkinson's there as well
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: if you want to pay up a little bit at
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: tight end and over the common theme of people paying down,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: so title any anything with that one extra. If not,
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: you can go into Patriots bills with Josh Allen at home.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 4: No, and I don't mind Addison either. Like again, it
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: sounds so weird to say I do prefer them to Jefferson,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 4: like the price discount and just the eye tests and
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 4: like it feels like half the Reids are Donald's Reeds
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: are Addison first. And again it's probably a lot of
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: bracket coverage and stuff on Jefferson. But looking at the stone,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, the Vikings can get beat through the past,
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: Seattle can get beat through the rush though, so still
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: jsm DK, Aaron Jones might preferred. Next game is gonna
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 4: be pretty easy for me. Patriots side. Just Hunter Henry
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: think he's a solid play. Has a good rapport with
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: Drake May. Again, two tight ends I think are very
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: viable because of how cheap they are, Like, there's not
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 4: when you're comparing Hunter Henry at forty one hundred to
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: the other receivers. I don't think I mentioned anyone today
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: except Jandale Robinson in that range. I think Jalen Cocher
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: was fine. But that's why two tight end is strong,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: because when you compare their price to receivers, usually the
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 4: starting tight ends great out a lot better and project
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 4: better Bill's side. I mean, is Josh going to continue
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: to be amazing and go for forty plus? If so,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: you'll need him if he gets thirty? Is that enough
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 4: on this slate? I don't know. Obviously it depends on
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: what other people do. But when you plug in Josh Allen,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: it is tough. You look at the stone pretty low
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: optimal percentage. If I do go Josh Allen, I do know.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: My favorite way is going Dalton Kincaid. I do prefer
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 4: skinny stacking because he does like if he's truly going
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: to get that ceiling ceiling you think he probably does,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: like he throws some, he probably rushes one or whatever.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: And the Kincaid price compared to Shakir is thirteen hundred difference,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: and he's going to be low owned at the tight
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 4: end position a onesie position pretty much twosy now that
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: you play a lot, I play a lot in flex
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: but that's by far my favorite way to go. It'd
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: be Josh Allen, Kincaid, Hunter Henry on the side. Otherwise,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: really nothing in this game but ownership super super low.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: It's crazy if you pull up Josh Josh Allen's game
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: log the past two weeks, but it's tough salary based game.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's an interesting hoop. I'll go to you on
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: this because it's like Josh Allen we talked about a
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: little bit earlier. You can, you know, try playing him naked,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: but then it runs into a bit of a problem there.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: But I think even when people are playing Josh Allen naked,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: they're probably playing strange in tight end because he's thirty
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: five hundred. He really makes everything else feel a little
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: bit more comfortable and work. So I guess would it
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: be you know, like the title's point. I love that
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: we talked earlier about putting Pennix with Pits as a way.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Now different reasoning altogether, but the same thing here is
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: the way to make the expensive guy affordable. You could
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: play Kinkaid on top of Strange and play double tight
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: end and really open up your lineup. And that's what
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Shady Advice did the Live final last week. He almost
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: clipped Chipotle Addic for the win, but he did Strange
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: with Aikens, and I know he probably didn't love Aichens,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: but at least in Djoku was out. It was a
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: different way of playing it, and then didn't have to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: worry about as much, and it let him get to
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: the rest of the plays that were solid, and it
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: didn't look as much like a Josh Allen lineup where
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: you're like, wow, that seems like I'm a little bit
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: too risky. Is that something you could do here with
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Kinkaid or do you have sort of other guys you'd
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: prefer to stack them with.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm totally good with the Kincaid stuff. I mean,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: especially on Fanduels, it's a little bit it's easier to
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: play Josh Allen. We talked about it on FanDuel versus
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: versus DK. But that's why if you like Josh Allen,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 3: you force him in on DK. You find a way
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: to get him in there and make it all work
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: and do creative things like you talked about. The obvious
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: risk is like, so if I'm playing a quarterback naked,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: I like at least something on the other side. So
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: I'll say, Okay, I don't need to stack Josh Allen
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: with the pass catcher, but I definitely want in those lineups,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: I definitely want something on the other side. So Josh
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: Allen naked, but something on the other side. And man,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 3: there's not much on the other side. It's like, you know,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Hunter Henry, that's fine. I just don't want to play
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: any of these other dudes, so gonna have to get
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: creative a little bit. But yeah, I like Kinkaid. The
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: targets have been there, just hasn't had the big game.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: And then it's tough with the pass catchers. I mean,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: Ty Johnson had a big game last week, Shakir Coleman,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Marii Cooper will bring Matt Collins off in the red zone.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 3: So it's it's very difficult to play Josh Allen. But
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 3: everyone's gonna look at it as difficult, and the guy
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: who's just nuked slates, he's gonna continue to This is
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: a situation. People love avoiding a team favored by like
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: two touchdowns at home. It's got to be the running back.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: It can't be the quarterback. I'm fine playing. You know,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: James Cook as well. He's getting overlooked. A lot of
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 3: people are, you know, obviously thinking it's going to continue
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: to be Josh Allen. But you know, James Cook's fine too.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: But it's challenging. But if you like it, you know,
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: stick with it and stick with it on DK because
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 3: a lot of people will abandon ship when they try
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: to build these teams.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm definitely gonna stick with it. I think it's
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 2: a really good spot. Again, it's just a part of
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: the Slate dynamics. There's ways to get to it. That
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: makes sense. Even with Coleman back last week, like you mentioned,
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: like Hollands, even thirty six hundred he got cut into,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: still got a red zone target, still got some catches
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: like he was still out there in the mix, the
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Kincaid stuff that we talked about. There's definite ways to go.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: And then the Chap made a good point. Shout out
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: to our guy, Rob said, I feel like the Allen
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 2: needs to be pushed to go off. It's Drake May
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: has been able to show up in some of these
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: spots and run the ball a little bit and move it.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: It's just it's hard to pick it. So what I'm
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: saying is twofold. You don't have to find a runback
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: if you don't want to, but you can just know
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: that if they can push it some way through Stevenson, Pop,
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: Douglas Born, whoever it might be Henry, then at least
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: it can move the ball a little bit back and
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: forth to get it going. It's tough to say, but
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: the Bills do still have a thirty plus point team
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: total at home, big favorites to get there and could
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: get there early. So title, I'll go to you just quickly.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: I know you're already talked about this game, but just
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: how many of the Hunter Henry lineups are in Josh
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: Allen stacks. It has to be a lot of them, right,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: like I think.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: More Yeah, probably a good amount, but I wouldn't even
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: worry about it because of how low Josh Allen's ownership is.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: But yeah, my favorite way would probably be Josh Allen
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: Kincaid Hunter Henry and go from there, and it has
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 4: to be pretty unique. But I think you're paying too if.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: You went to king Aid instead of Henry, because I
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: think when people go to it, it's going to be
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: Alan Henry or Alan with Henry and a runback or
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: sorry and a stack piece with Josh Allen versus you
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: can just avoid both by doing getting just Kinkate. He's
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 2: five hundred bucks more than the popular play that would
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: be with him no ownership on him and don't need
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: to figure out the run back. Just have to stay
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: in your head. I hope Drake May and the rest
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: of those guys can push him enough to make him
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: hit his total, so like hit some points. So yeah,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: go to last game of the slate if you have
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: nothing else Jags Raiders.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this game probably my favorite in the afternoon window,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: and I think most people's and it's worth noting, like
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: if you're behind late swap, there's what one, two, three,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: four games in the afternoon window if you need to
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: pivot off stuff like strange. We keep mentioning his name
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: will be very popular, Brian Thomas will be pretty popular.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: The only two pieces. I've interest on the jag side,
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I mean, how do you not have interest
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 4: in that? Like Matt Jones, He's been competent for sure.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas is a complete stud. You will be saying
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 4: his name for many of years to come, and he's
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: gonna be putting up big games, huge, upside and strange.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, mac Jones is pepper dum, He's on the
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: field all the time. The price is good. I have
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: nothing to argue with that chalk. We listed so many
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: other tight ends that are in play. You go Burrow,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: you can go get secky over strange chalk, whatever it
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 4: may be. I will at plenty of two tight end teams.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna eat some strange chalk, whether it's good or bad.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: I'm interested here. Your takes Raider.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 3: Side, bro definitely don't don't eat the strange. You never
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: want to eat the strange. Raider side. Oh gosh, I
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: don't know. Ad and O'Connell. I've been going back and forth.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: I keep telling myself, I'm not playing these bad quarterbacks.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: Tambill shaking his head. But I like all the pass catchers.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers looks good. Brock Bowers nobody's playing him as
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: a spend up. He can get you thirty. It is
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: hard to play Brock Bowers. But with how cheap O'Connell is,
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: it's not crazy. And yeah you mentioned my guy, my guy,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Michael Meyer. But they run, all they run is twelve personnel.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: He was on the field seventy percent of snaps. He
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: essentially is another wide receiver. It's Trey Tucker, Jacoby, Myers,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: Brock Bauers, Michael Meyer. That is exactly almost every single play.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: That is how they run it. So if he's twenty
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 3: nine hundred bucks and no one's playing him, I'm gonna
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: have some interest as a pivot in that cheaper tight
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: end range. So with all that being said, and I
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 3: have interest in Jacoby, brock Meyer, Trey Tucker, just he
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: falls so down the list of like and they're gonna
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: run the football. I don't think they drop back forty times.
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 3: No one's really down there thirty nine hundred.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: I definitely don't love it, though if I did play,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 4: and it's probably with O'Connell more likely to be in
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 4: the afternoon slates. Yeah, I think I like Bowers, Meyer
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: and Jacoby and O'Connell's low owned. I maybe should play
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: some Aiden O'Connell in a dome at home. I like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: some runbacks, So yeah, I think this is the gross
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: game that I'm gonna be in on and I probably
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: will play some O'Connell. Last thing that Alexander Madison, I
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 4: don't know. I'm really indifferent about it, like a mirror.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: Abdullah still had more snaps last week, and again they're
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: different running backs that duels change of pace. Madison more
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: up the middle, bruiser stuff. I don't know, I really
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 4: I don't love Madison. I prefer the passing game.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: But he was for the touchdown to last week, but
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: then a lot of what he was in there for
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: late for his snaps were when they were down. It
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: just depends on how you see the game playing out.
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: But I will say Brian Thomas Junior hard to get
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: away from, and if you want to get away from strange,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: you can go with like O'Connell stack and then run
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: it back with just Brian Thomas. But what I was
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: gonna say, when you know, that's how a lot of
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: people are doing it. But when I would do it,
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: I looked at some for twelve k with no run
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: back or for eighteen K with Brian Thomas Junior as
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 2: your run back. You can just play Trey Tucker and
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: Michael Meyer and then you can fit all those studs
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: that I talked about earlier. It depends on where you
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: think the scoring comes from today, but it does twofold.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 2: It keeps the good play of Brian Thomas Junior in
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: the mix. It gets you away from all those mid
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: range other wide receivers and gets you all the lower owned,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: high priced running backs. If that's where the money comes
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: from today, that'll be how you find your way to
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: the top. So super interesting build that I found with
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: this game. But I do like the O'Connell side. Who
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: what about you in this one? We know Strange Thomas
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: Junior are good. Last week the play was just a
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: run the triple stack. From the other side. You just
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: play O'Connell, Meyers, Bowers, Strange Thomas. Whatever. What do you
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 2: do here with this one?
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Definitely not playing the quarterbacks. I kind of blacked
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: out when you guys started talking about that and wasn't
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: paying attention, so I don't know what the argument was, unfortunately,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 3: but not doing that, but I amn't on the individual
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: pieces like the Madison stuff's gross, but man, he makes
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: some things work. So a little bit of him, some Myers,
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 3: some Bowers, some Mayor I think it's fine. Brian Thomas
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: on the other side, and then Strange, you know, all
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: individually fine plays. I am the ownership on some of
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: these guys. I just think it's just a little bit
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: too much specifically, like the Strange stuff, and I'm playing them,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: no doubt about it. But like in large field stuff,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 3: it's man, it's like he is so coming in, so
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: highly owned, but I'm on it, you know, Brian Thomas
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: the same thing. I'm on it, but probably underweight. And
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: then like those Raiders guys I think are fine individual plays.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: But yeah, definitely no, no, you be for me.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think too. If you want to play
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: you know Bowers, even if you go O'Connell, Bowers, Thomas Junior, well,
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: you're not playing McBride, you're not playing Strange. I think
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: you're going to like a Marv Harrison Junior or a
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: James Connor because you're saying, if it's not going to
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: be those other spots there, it's not Strange, it's not McBride.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: You're going back to Bowers. So by the way everybody
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: loved last week and all of a sudden hate him now.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 2: But then I'm putting James Connor because I'm just covering
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: it off, like the next level of what that build
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: looks like is going there, so really bad past events
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: everybody throws in the Jags. We did this earlier with
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 2: Caleb Williams versus the Lions. This has been a spot
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: that you can get after all season as well, so
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: you can cut it off. If Bowers has two touchdowns,
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: that's good for O'Connell. Brian Thomas Junior is good every
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: week somehow literally every week. Not like a Nick Westbrook,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: a Keyne gets a touchdown every week. Good, but just
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: a really good DFS playing good player in general. Like
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: title said, so ugly gross but you know interesting, and
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: then I'm with Hoop. The Madison stuff is gross. But
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: if you're landing there, you know I'm building for that game.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 4: Script.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: If you were somehow landing on the other side, then
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I would understand, like Abdullah being in the stack that way.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Title final game of the slate we cover here is
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: the main slate over on DraftKings forty nine ers in
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  Speaker 2: Miami against the Dolphins any any weather, conversation there at all.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 4: No weather looks fine here, Ty or Malik Washington, John
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 4: new Smith on the Dolphins side man, watching that game,
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 4: all I saw was Malik Washington. Literally every him or
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 4: a Chan, every single play, thirty seven hundred. Again, there's
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 4: just hardly any value down there we're talking about. If
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 4: you want Josh Allen kink kid or you're playing hurt stuff,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: whatever it may be. I think he is one of
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 4: the viable guys down there in the three K range
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 4: at receiver. I'm good with him. John new Smith has
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 4: just been a complete beast. I'm gonna keep playing John
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: who for sure in between the McBride Bauers kind of
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: and then the Strangers of the World. Definitely closer to
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 4: the McBride Bauers, but I spend up tight end a
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 4: little salary discounts. I don't think I'm gonna be playing
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: too much Tyreek, not playing to eight chans fine, but
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: I will like I think Gibbs is really good Chalk.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 4: The props are just so so strong. Gibbs is definitely
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 4: a pivot for one hundred less. But I think if
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna make a pivot, maybe I'll save even more
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 4: and go like at JT I prefer Connor for cheaper.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 4: I prefer Bijon for a little more. I'm not trying,
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 4: like a chance a fine play, but I'm not gonna
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: get there. I think too much personally seventy four hundred.
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 4: I still do respect his forty nine ers defense, even
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: though not playing for much. Niner side. Juwan Jennings by
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: far my favorite play. I mean, who would have thought
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: wide receiver one? But that's most definitely what he is.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: Tibo at fifty two hundred, and then I just look
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: at the game log and I'm like, man, what in
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: the world do I do? And I don't know. I'm
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 4: curious to hear what you guys say. Patrick Taylor another
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: guy and play at fifty two hundred. I also kind
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 4: of look and compare him to Madison, like how much
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 4: do I love it? It's like you guys said, for Madison,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 4: certain teams and certain things, you just need those guys
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 4: that starting running backs at that price to make everything work.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 4: So I'm good landing there, but by no means am
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: I excited. I like juwanna good bit he's getting ownership
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 4: Malik Washington John who more individual pieces for me? I
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 4: don't plan. I'm playing the quarterbacks. But interested here you
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: guys take on like the eight Chan Taylor's debos of
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: the world.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll kick it to Hoop in a second, but
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I will say that just you know, play DFS so
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: long all of us. He sucks the game. Loge has
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: been horrible. He sucks the season. I think he's a
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: bad plumbers. But like Debo is gonna do something today,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: just because you know they finally lost their other running back.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: It's everyone's done with them. He's fifty two hundred. You
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: can easily get to Jennings for just seven hundred dollars more.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: Hence white people are It's just it just happens, right, Hoop,
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: Like you just you don't even want it. You don't
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: even get there yourself. In some cases, you just know
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: this is gonna happen. Though you've played enough DFS. Same
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: price as Patrick Taylor too, by the.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, it's been so so bad. But it's like
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: it can't continue to be that bad, can it. Like
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: that's that's the question you got to ask yourself.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 4: It's been TOAs doesn't need to be that bad. Double
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 4: games and you still don't want it. Yeah, I know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 4: I know, I agree with what Tam was saying. Maybe
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 4: that running back being down. He keeps saying that. But Patrick,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 4: like they trusted Grinda more than Patrick Taylor, so maybe
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 4: that does even boost more touches for Deebo.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: Keep playing.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: I'm definitely playing there with Like they said he had pneumonia,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 2: he's never gonna I can't breathe yet he's still in
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: the field playing all these plays like you know, he's
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: just not doing anything. He says he's hot.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: Man, It's just this this game, it's like there's pieces
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, I haven't made my final determination
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: on this, but you can you can definitely tell yourself
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: a story like a deep bomb to Tyreek Hill and
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 3: this one just gets going right and the forty nine
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: ers have the firepower on the other side, they can
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 3: definitely fire back Jennings Kittle and I guess if you
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: want to throw Debo in the next feel free to
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: do so. It hasn't worked this season, but like they
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: have the fire power, they're without their what first three
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: running backs do? They just go a pass heavy attack,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: Like you can tell yourself the story here for sure,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: and you got cheap pieces on the dolphin side. I
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 3: like the Moveleak Washington call. I like the John bue
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: Smith call. So like, why wouldn't we play this game?
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I guess is the question? Like, So, I'm kinda I
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 3: was undecided, but I think I might be selling myself
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: on it. Low ownership, two competent quarterbacks. You got a
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: guy in a cham where you know you can play
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 3: him with Tua if you want Tyreek Hill without waddle.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 3: So you have an injury on the dolphin side. I guess, like,
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: why aren't we playing this game? I guess is the question?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's my I think we have to show.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 3: It's cheap as it's ever been too, Like two offenses
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: that are typically way more expensive. This is like the
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: cheapest it's ever been to get these two teams together.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: If nothing else, leave yourself some sort of late swap
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: options that you can get to it. Because in the
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: afternoon we talked about all these games. There is other options,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: but if you have a built in way to get there,
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: this is the spot I'd be interested in. I did
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: see two. You know, it wasn't really news last week.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: Tidbit for this week was that Tua guy is two
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: tackles back, so it should be a little bit easier
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: for him. There some of the stat tidbits that were
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: out of like Tyreek in this matchup looks pretty good
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: John Hu as well. And then if you're playing a
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: Malik Washington, I'm fine with it because he's thirty seven hundred.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: He just would fit into that mix. He could maybe
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: make up for some of those lost points on the
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: other guys. And I know it's gross, but like I said,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: I'm just gonna see what happens. Man, Deebo is no good.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 2: There's nothing can do. I do think a couple of things.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: One we talked about a grindo going out. He's definitely
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: capable of running the ball for this team and getting
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: end a rounds and things like that. If you can
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 2: get to Jennings, you can get to him seven or
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: bucks more. But it is interesting when you have, you know,
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: ability with this Malik Washington play and John Hu Smith
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: play to have money to not need Patrick Taylor, but
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: you do want to get the game pushed. So if
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: you go with debone. Also, Deebo the captain was you know,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 2: getting praised by everybody else too for being one of
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: the guys that just called out the dude that quit
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: on his team and went at pretty hard. So the
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: team is behind him as always anyway. But I'm saying, like,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: just little things like that down the stretch, he needs
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: an opportunity. He deleted the social media post where he
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: was saying, I'm fine, but they're just not giving me
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: the ball. Maybe he gets the ball back and we
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 2: see the chain getting rocked a little bit today. But
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 2: I'm interested just from a you know, long time playing
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: DFS experience. Play It happens, man, It's just one of
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: those things that happened. So I'll stick to it and
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 2: play my play. My thoughts there title any other thoughts
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: on this late or anything else. Now, wrapping it up
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 2: that we've gone through all these games.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 4: I didn't dig into the story heavy, but the dude
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 4: just really like, hey, you're turning to go in, and
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 4: he just didn't want to go in, like he just then.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what he thought of, like they were
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: just gonna drop him so he could do something else,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 2: but like, no, we're gonna act you try and screw
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: us like that. We're gonna screw you the hardest we
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: possibly can. Suspended with no pay for the rest of
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: the season and deal with that so as.
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 4: It should be. I mean, you were your whole life
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 4: to get to the NFL.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: Talk you through it. But bad decision on his part,
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: very bad.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: I mean that's just crazy. Yeah, no, nothing really more
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 4: on that one. It's it's a fun slate. I think
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 4: the early first like three games I liked a lot,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 4: and I felt like I went through a couple of
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: games were not a much interest, and then good amount
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 4: of individual pieces in the afternoon again four games in
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 4: the afternoon, so late swap always big. The FanDuel game,
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 4: it's in a dome, Cowboys Buccaneers. Definitely game you cannot
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 4: ignore over there. Again we'll have the stone slate plan
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 4: for fandle everything up big mic going for a thousand yards,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: so don't forget about that one. But yeah, very fun
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: slate again. Roster construction wise, I think is pretty clear
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 4: where most are going. And I feel good about this week.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 4: I think we see a lot of ship at late
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 4: ship at nation logos to the top.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 2: I think so too. And everyone we get the comment
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 2: every week, oh you don't talk about the last game.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 2: Can't even hit the four hundred likes. Everyone's home back
• 1:32:44
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• 1:32:47
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• 1:32:50
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• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: before we get out of here, Yeah, I mean, on the.
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: I talked myself into the last game a little bit there,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: so I just added some pretty stuff. Actually thinking through it, it
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: makes it makes sense. So that's my final decision. Got
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: some clarity. I was able to x out the Eagles
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: commanders besides Saquon and add in some forty nine ers Miami.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: But I agree with you guys. I think it's gonna
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• 1:33:36
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